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- 0:00So what stages do a the? So what stages does a narcissist
- 0:09go through when you leave them? When the relationship ends, when
- 0:12you are the discarder and not the discard D like when you
- 0:17leave them, we leave the relationship.
- 0:18How do they feel? What it What goes through the
- 0:20mind of a narcissist when it's all said and done?
- 0:22If you're new here, my name is Lee Hammock.
- 0:24I'm a diagnosed narcissist that is here to help you understand
- 0:26the mind of a narcissist. And welcome to another episode
- 0:29of the Narcissist Code. So boom, welcome back folks,
- 0:49welcome back. Welcome back.
- 0:50Yes, the mind of a narcissist. The stages a narcissist goes
- 0:56through when the relationship is finito, when it's done, when
- 0:59it's over. I I good day Sir, you lose all
- 1:04that good stuff right there. So what goes through the mind of
- 1:07a narcissist y'all Like what stages do they go through?
- 1:10I know a lot of people when they see this video, it's going to
- 1:13sound like the stages of grief, right?
- 1:14There's five stages of grief. What are the five stages of
- 1:17grief? Denial, anger, bargaining,
- 1:19depression, and acceptance, right?
- 1:22Which could be a very similar pattern that narcissistic people
- 1:24follow. Once you decide to end the
- 1:27relationship, once you decide to dip on it, it could be very
- 1:29similar to what they actually do, right?
- 1:31But I will say this as well because this is something that
- 1:33some people miss right here. The first stage that some
- 1:37narcissists go through when you leave, when the relationship is
- 1:40over, when you leave them is happiness, right?
- 1:44Some of them are happy that you left.
- 1:47I know that could might confuse some people like happy that we
- 1:50left. What are you talking about?
- 1:51Like we broke up with them. Why would why the hell would
- 1:54they be happy when we are the ones that ended the
- 1:56relationship? So that doesn't make any sense
- 1:58to me. You need you got to explain.
- 1:59You got to explain yourself right now.
- 2:00Right now. Yeah, I've.
- 2:04Yeah, Don't, don't yell at me. Yell at me.
- 2:07Why don't you? You don't have to yell at me.
- 2:10I I got you right here. Yeah.
- 2:12So some narcissists will be happy that you left them because
- 2:16they want you to be the ones that leave.
- 2:19Like, you know the reverse discard is a thing, right?
- 2:23The reverse discard is absolutely real.
- 2:25And a lot of people experience this.
- 2:27You know, the reverse discard happens when that narcissist or
- 2:31toxic person wants you to be the one that leaves them.
- 2:35They want you to be the one that ends the relationship so they
- 2:39don't feel as bad, right? So they don't feel bad about how
- 2:42the relationship is going or what happens next or whatever
- 2:44the case may be. They want you to end it.
- 2:49So some of them are absolutely thrilled that you left, that you
- 2:52leave them. Yeah.
- 2:54So some of them will absolutely be thrilled that you are the one
- 2:57that calls it quits, that you are the one that finally decides
- 3:00to end it all. They will be happy.
- 3:03And it sucks and it sucks and it sucks because if you leave them,
- 3:06you expect them to be sad. You might want them to be sad
- 3:09because I guess people think that being sad means you care.
- 3:13So you associate that sadness with them caring about you.
- 3:16So when they're happy or out partying and clubbing and things
- 3:20like that, once you, once the relationship ends, you might
- 3:24feel bad about the situation, right?
- 3:26You might feel that something might go on within your head or
- 3:29within your mind and you like what the what the hell is going
- 3:32on now? They must have never cared about
- 3:34me. I must not have mattered to
- 3:35them. You'll start questioning your
- 3:37worth and your own value because they're not sad that you left.
- 3:40Do you know what I'm saying? They're happy.
- 3:42They're they're excited that you leave them, right?
- 3:45So just be watch out for that. Watch out for the happiness
- 3:47stage that some narcissists go through.
- 3:49Not every single narcissist will go through this right?
- 3:51But some narcissists will absolutely be happy that you are
- 3:53the one that left, that the relationship has ended and they
- 3:56can go out here and do what they want to do and be who they be
- 3:58with, who they want to be with because they've been cheating on
- 4:00you and now it gives them an excuse to play the victim.
- 4:04The next stage that they go through, some of them will go
- 4:06right to anger, right? Right to anger and rage, they
- 4:10would go right to raging out because they're not ready for
- 4:13you to be the one. They're not ready for the
- 4:15relationship to end, right. They're not ready for the
- 4:18relationship to, to end and whatnot.
- 4:20They're they, they want, they don't, they're not, they don't
- 4:23have a new supply set up, so they need you to stay with them.
- 4:26They need you to be around. They need you to be here and
- 4:30they need you to be with them. So they're not ready for you to
- 4:33be the one that leaves them. So they, they, they lose their
- 4:35minds, some of them will rage out and start to threaten you
- 4:38and threaten to harm you and threaten to do bad, bad things
- 4:41to you. So this is the stage right here,
- 4:43y'all, when you leave, if you see a narcissist raging out and
- 4:45being angry, yeah. It doesn't mean that they care.
- 4:48It means that they, some of them are, are, are obsessed.
- 4:51It means that some of them think that they own you or you belong
- 4:53to them and whatnot. That's what that means.
- 4:56It's a very unique space to be in when you're dealing with
- 4:59narcissistic toxic people. You know, it's something to
- 5:02really, really think about and really, really consider when you
- 5:05leave and something you have to plan for.
- 5:07Because some people try to hurt you, right?
- 5:08I'm not trying to be morbid, but some people will try to hurt you
- 5:11if you leave because leaving can be the most dangerous time.
- 5:15So the ones that are not happy get angry as hell.
- 5:18And sometimes they get happy and then they get angry, right?
- 5:21Even if they're happy that you leave, like some of them will be
- 5:24happy, then they'll shift to sadness and anger and rage.
- 5:28So be very careful because they will rage out on you and they
- 5:30will threaten to harm you. And sometimes, let's say,
- 5:34because they're not ready, they don't have a new supply set up,
- 5:36they don't have anybody waiting in the wings for them.
- 5:39So they will be angry as hell and some of them will lose their
- 5:42minds because you leave them, right?
- 5:44Because you end the relationship, right?
- 5:47Yeah, like I said, some of them, like I said, like I said, the
- 5:50five stages go denial, anger, bargaining, depression and and
- 5:52acceptance. But some of them don't even,
- 5:55yeah, they will deny it, right? But the denial goes straight to
- 5:59anger, like they it's not over. It's not over till I say it's
- 6:02over. So that denial and anger stage
- 6:04that most people go through that it's like it's like balling up.
- 6:07It's like balled up into one cumulative stage.
- 6:11So it's like deny your rage, deny your anger.
- 6:13They'll be mad as hell. They'll deny that the
- 6:15relationship is over, threaten to harm you, threaten to keep
- 6:18the kids from you. They'll start doing that right
- 6:20there 'cause that's when they shift into like the threatening
- 6:22bargaining phase of narcissistic anger and rage, right?
- 6:25They while they're angry, while they're denying the
- 6:27relationship, while they're angry that it's over, they'll
- 6:30start threatening you. And this is a narcissist
- 6:33bargaining right here, the threatening stage.
- 6:35They start threatening to hurt you, threatening to harm you,
- 6:38threatening to take everything away from you, threaten to ruin
- 6:42your life, threaten to end your life, threaten to make sure that
- 6:46you never date again. I'm going to now you're never
- 6:48going to date again. Nobody else is going to come
- 6:50into your life and be happy and rabble, rabble rabble, blah,
- 6:52blah, blah, Boo Boo, Boo BBB. You're not, I'm nobody ever
- 6:56going to treat you the way I treat you.
- 6:57No, you're not going to ever be happy.
- 6:59And this and that and the third this, that and the fourth this,
- 7:01that and the 5th, right? This is what's going to happen a
- 7:04lot of times with people. So this is what another thing
- 7:06that you have to prepare for as well, because they will start
- 7:09bargaining with you, but it's a threatening stage.
- 7:12It's a threatening type of bargaining, right?
- 7:14They threaten, they, they try to negotiate with you, right?
- 7:18They absolutely try to negotiate with you.
- 7:21And guess what else happens right here?
- 7:22Y'all, Not only will they start threatening you, they'll start
- 7:26threatening to harm themselves. So there's a threatening stage
- 7:29as well where they will start threatening to hurt themselves.
- 7:32Because they don't know how to act.
- 7:34Because they don't know how to behave.
- 7:35Because they don't know. How to just be, be human beings
- 7:39and act correctly. They don't know what to do or
- 7:42how to go out doing things. So they act out, they behave
- 7:45erratically. They start threatening to harm
- 7:47themselves. They start threatening to not
- 7:49pay child support or not alimony or not pay alimony or not let
- 7:53you see the kids, right? Because if they, like I said,
- 7:56sometimes they'll threaten to not let you see the kids.
- 7:58They'll keep the kids away from you, Right.
- 8:01So that's the stage that that most narcissists go through as
- 8:04well. Is this stage of like
- 8:05threatening anger and like, it's a bargaining stage, Right.
- 8:09But it's like threatening and anger.
- 8:11Yeah. Will some, will every single
- 8:12narcissist get angry? No.
- 8:14Will they start threatening you? No.
- 8:16Like some of them will bargain you and just try to like,
- 8:19there's a stage this this same stage right here.
- 8:22Well, they will change like the stage where they go back to
- 8:26normal. And what I mean by what I mean
- 8:29by normal is they go back to who they were when you first met
- 8:32them, right? This is a stage that a lot of
- 8:35narcissistic people go through right here, y'all, If you leave
- 8:37them because they've been treating you badly a lot of the
- 8:40time, right? A lot of times they will go back
- 8:42to who they were originally. They'll go back to behaving how
- 8:46they used to behave originally. They'll go back to treating you
- 8:49how they used to treat you originally.
- 8:51Like they got you, they got you to fall in love for them.
- 8:53They'll go back to the love bombing phase.
- 8:55They'll go back to the beginning and start treating you well
- 8:58again, like, oh, like look, sometimes damn near overnight.
- 9:02You tell them you want to, you tell them you want to break up.
- 9:05You tell them that you want a divorce.
- 9:06You tell them that you want to be separated or whatever.
- 9:08Guess what happens? They switch it out
- 9:10automatically. Now they're helping you around
- 9:12the house. Now they're cooking now they're
- 9:13cleaning. Now they give you the bun.
- 9:14Then they y'all clapping cheeks more.
- 9:16You like, wait, what happened? Because they they went back.
- 9:19They, it's kind of like they have a, they had a factory reset
- 9:23and reset themselves back to the factory setting and start
- 9:26treating you a certain type of way, right?
- 9:28This behavior happens all the time.
- 9:31This is the stage that they will go through as well.
- 9:33Again, they will go through the stage of not every single
- 9:36narcissist is going to go through the same stages, right?
- 9:38They, everybody's going to go through this flux, but some of
- 9:40them will revert back to the, the old them, the old me, the
- 9:44old loving, caring me. But this is something that you
- 9:47need to think about right here. If they could, if they could
- 9:51turn it on right now, why haven't they done it before?
- 9:54Like if they can start all of a sudden out of nowhere treating
- 9:57you better without you even asking, that means they could
- 10:01have done it the entire time. That means they could have
- 10:03treated you better the entire time.
- 10:05And they were just withholding it because they were angry at
- 10:08you. They were withholding it because
- 10:09they were sorry at they've been sorry as sorry as hell.
- 10:12They were withholding it to manipulate you.
- 10:14They were they were punishing you on purpose.
- 10:16It's more manipulation, right? It's more manipulation, right?
- 10:21The next stage that I would say that a lot of narcissists go
- 10:23through, Y'all is, yeah, it's kind of following the stages of
- 10:28grief, but I would say depression.
- 10:31Depression and acceptance sometimes come go hand in hand.
- 10:34It's like this cumulative depression acceptance stage
- 10:37where a lot of a lot of them will go out and find a new
- 10:41supply. If they haven't had it right,
- 10:43they'll be depressed and sad as hell because they don't have a
- 10:46they don't, they're not getting any type of narcissistic supply
- 10:50or validation. So they start collapsing in on
- 10:52themselves like a little like a, like a neutron star, they start
- 10:55collapsing in on themselves. So they need some type of
- 10:58validation from the outside source.
- 11:00Narcissist cannot self validate. So we need it from an outside
- 11:03source. We need it from someone else.
- 11:05We needed to get it from somewhere else, right?
- 11:08Then we get it from somewhere else.
- 11:10That means that we're trying, like I said, we need it.
- 11:12So we go ahead and find a new supply because we're depressed,
- 11:15because we're sad as hell, because we're angry that we need
- 11:18to go find somebody else to validate us.
- 11:20And this during this stage right here, y'all, is when you see a
- 11:23lot of narcissists end up with somebody that's not their
- 11:25original type, right? I know a lot of people ask me
- 11:28like, why do they pick somebody that they why do they pick
- 11:30somebody that's not their type? They need supply.
- 11:34They need somebody to make them feel good about themselves.
- 11:35They need somebody who might listen and not listen and not
- 11:38judge, right? We listen and we don't judge.
- 11:41They might need that type of person right now where they're
- 11:44going through this type of stuff.
- 11:45They need somebody, anybody. So it might be somebody that
- 11:49they actually don't like or somebody that they've been
- 11:51talking bad about for a long time while y'all have been
- 11:53together. Like they've been pretending to
- 11:55hate this person. They've been pretending to not
- 11:57like this person. But this is the stage.
- 11:59This is what ends up happening y'all.
- 12:02But yeah, after they acceptance y'all, the cycle can start all
- 12:06over. They still, just because they go
- 12:07to this last stage where they find a new supply, it does not
- 12:10mean that they will leave you alone.
- 12:12Some of them will go back to anger, go back to sadness, go
- 12:15back to rage, go back to bargaining, go back to try to
- 12:17get you back in the relationship.
- 12:19This cycle does not end just because they have a new supply
- 12:22and they can get married to the new supply.
- 12:23Y'all, they can do all this type of stuff with the new supply.
- 12:26It doesn't mean that they will stop going through these stages.
- 12:28Sometimes they'll sit in anger and rage and then they'll treat
- 12:32you horribly and they'll try to punish you for the rest of your
- 12:34time that you have to deal with them because of a business,
- 12:37because of whatever, right? They'll treat you badly because
- 12:39you still have to deal with them.
- 12:41So this is something to consider.
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