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Episode 56: Nibbly Tramps · The Tom & Gerry Show Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Oh hello, Now, I've felled many as a chimney in
• 0:06
  Speaker 1: my time. There've never been one for cutting down trees.
• 0:10
  Speaker 1: On those two bustards that chop down the sycamore gap tree.
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: John and Jerry give them a right going over in
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: this week's episode, and they also mentioned the Southampton six. Well,
• 0:21
  Speaker 1: I've never heard of. I know the boats and two.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: That's me and Donald down there on the ground. Do
• 0:29
  Speaker 1: you hear that?
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  Speaker 2: Donald?
• 0:32
  Speaker 1: I don't think you heard that.
• 0:43
  Speaker 2: Guess we're back back again. Jerry's back, His back is
• 0:47
  Speaker 2: still fucked.
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't have liked what I would have had you
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  Speaker 1: added the weekends.
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  Speaker 2: If that's the case, we uped at the weekend. Tom,
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  Speaker 2: you with a decent spine, one decent spine between the
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  Speaker 2: two of.
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  Speaker 1: Us, I sighed, And this is going to be not
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  Speaker 1: even a humble break. This is just straight out bragg.
• 1:01
  Speaker 1: I sold out the opening show of the tour in
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  Speaker 1: Cork and so that was great. But aside from that,
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  Speaker 1: you spent all the day as they that only a
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  Speaker 1: man of the height and I mean the highest echelon
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  Speaker 1: of ignorance could stick with. I was digging holes dirt
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  Speaker 1: for planting trees. Those trees that talked about you remember
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: replacing trees. Yes, in a follow up, But we were
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  Speaker 1: in the pat of what was a fucking glacial fu
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  Speaker 1: movement back in the day. Some glacial took a giant
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  Speaker 1: shite in this direction and sent rocks in all directions.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: So you go one millimeter under the surface and you're
• 1:37
  Speaker 1: meeting a rock, the most obscurely shaped rock I know.
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  Speaker 1: Other rocks that don't even look related to it at
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  Speaker 1: all are surrounding it. Like the ratio to dirt and
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  Speaker 1: rock in certain parts of the Carding Jar is just laughable,
• 1:49
  Speaker 1: Like if Monty Python made it up. They go, yeah,
• 1:52
  Speaker 1: you're you're going too mad there, like that looks like
• 1:54
  Speaker 1: something out of the Simpsons. Like I'm expecting one of
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  Speaker 1: the rocks to have ACTME written on the side of it.
• 2:00
  Speaker 2: The Patrick Cavanaby like, now like this, you go back up.
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  Speaker 1: To fucking Manahauan with his teams and his legs and
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: his own bike going no, they we thought we had
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  Speaker 1: a stony, gray soil bed above Manaha. I'm not going
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  Speaker 1: anywhere near the mountainous region of south to peror. You know, well,
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: to be fair, I got to be fair to me.
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  Speaker 1: I got through five and a half of the hose before,
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  Speaker 1: as the man says, you'd bend the fucking crowbar in
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  Speaker 1: the bag, as you'd say, I went, I bent the
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  Speaker 1: tying of a buck rak, which is about a twenty
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  Speaker 1: kilo fucking pipe of a bar with a spike and
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  Speaker 1: shaped into a spike, and I fucking bent the end
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  Speaker 1: of that. And when that happened, I went, right, well,
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  Speaker 1: we'll call this one. We'll call it.
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  Speaker 2: We'll wrap that up. Longterm listener from those from Moon
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  Speaker 2: lifting someone bail and drawing on and breaking.
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  Speaker 1: I see there's little there's easter eggs everywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Thro the how yeah, how the it must be said
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: Tom of the Tom and Jerry Show. I think we
• 3:03
  Speaker 2: go away with ourselves there a little bit and even
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  Speaker 2: an intro the show. How are you all doing? I'm
• 3:07
  Speaker 2: Jerry McBride, still over here with my stack at Pringle's
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: spine giving me trouble, and over there is Tom. O'Mahoney,
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  Speaker 2: couldn't be better from the sounds of things, do.
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  Speaker 1: You know I have? I had a couple of pains
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  Speaker 1: today now that I haven't had. I went, oh, so
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: that is digging howls again. I'd forgotten what that was like.
• 3:25
  Speaker 1: That twangs a bit and I might have to have
• 3:28
  Speaker 1: a soak in the bat after this fucking thing, like
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: it's I the junkfle I used to be. But yes,
• 3:34
  Speaker 1: people are very excited about the notion of you coming
• 3:37
  Speaker 1: coming to some of the shows. So I'm getting I'm
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: literally getting messages. One man actually put like the emoji
• 3:42
  Speaker 1: of saying prayers. I don't know is he feeling quite
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: papal at the moment after the whole Pope chat and
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  Speaker 1: all the rest of but he was quite fucking religious
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  Speaker 1: about the notion that you were coming to a couple
• 3:51
  Speaker 1: of the shows.
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  Speaker 2: So corby your enthusiasm as the lads, I've got a
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  Speaker 2: week finish, But we've got a wrong start to this
• 4:00
  Speaker 2: week's episode, Tom, because as you mentioned, we are Easter
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  Speaker 2: eggs galore. We're coming back around to a couple of
• 4:05
  Speaker 2: stories that we touched upon in the Lostreet's History of
• 4:09
  Speaker 2: the Tom and Jerry Podcast, and we may as well
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  Speaker 2: just get straight into one of them because we've got
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  Speaker 2: a pack show this week. We're gonna get straight into
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  Speaker 2: segment number one of the show, which is where we
• 4:19
  Speaker 2: deal with the big noise happening in the week in
• 4:22
  Speaker 2: the world of Tom and Jerry and beyond the scuttle
• 4:24
  Speaker 2: but Tom the weekly what have been? This is a
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  Speaker 2: very complicated case, mad You know, a lot of ian's,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of outs, a lot of what have you is,
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  Speaker 2: and a lot of strands to keep in my head man.
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  Speaker 2: In the words of George Bush, George W. Bush, that is,
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  Speaker 2: ladies and gentlemen, we got him, We got him. We
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: got him.
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  Speaker 1: Rooted a mount to dirty beast.
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  Speaker 2: It's so dirty bast, keen.
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  Speaker 1: Eared lung listening, people will go, we can remember back
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  Speaker 1: to I know we have Chris there. He's actually quite
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  Speaker 1: close to it. He's up and I believe he's in
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  Speaker 1: the Cumbria, kind of the county near there, near this.
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  Speaker 1: If you go back to October twe in three wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: you believe you?
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  Speaker 2: But we were.
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  Speaker 1: We were on it like two proper reporters.
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  Speaker 2: We were investigative journalists.
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  Speaker 1: The following the following couple of days we were on
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  Speaker 1: this where we spoke about the very famous Sycamore Gap
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  Speaker 1: which would be kind of up their Hadrian's Wall, whichould
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  Speaker 1: be hidden towards Scotland or quite Scotland, but hidden towards Scotland,
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  Speaker 1: and how the significance of that, and everybody, whether you
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  Speaker 1: realize it or not, you're going sycamore gap. You have
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  Speaker 1: seen sycamore gap in some movie if you've ever seen
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  Speaker 1: Robin Hood, Prince Thieves, And it was in a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of others too.
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  Speaker 2: It's in a bunch of stuff. It's it's it's a
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  Speaker 2: go to film location for like Scenic England and it's
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  Speaker 2: a big ass sycamore tree out in the field and
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  Speaker 2: we covered it many moons ago when it got chopped down,
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  Speaker 2: Tom It got chopped down in the middle of the night,
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  Speaker 2: and there was a big man hunt because no woman
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  Speaker 2: would do something this fucking stupid. There's a big man
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  Speaker 2: hunt to find out who done it, and ladies and gentlemen,
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  Speaker 2: we got them. This week two men, Daniel Graham and
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  Speaker 2: Adam Curls, were found guilty of chopping down the sycamore
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  Speaker 2: Gap tree. These guys are the Osama Bin Ladden's of horticulture.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know it could have been an inside job, Jared.
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  Speaker 1: You know, just jet fuel doesn't mil trees, that's all
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  Speaker 1: I know, you know, But.
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  Speaker 2: But chainsaw oil will do a good job. And that
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  Speaker 2: These lads were convicted of criminal damage that's what they
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  Speaker 2: got them on, okay, because apparently there's no law that
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  Speaker 2: says don't chop down a tree, but they can get
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  Speaker 2: you on criminal damage for which this is would you
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  Speaker 2: care to hazard a guess tom as to the value
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  Speaker 2: of the tree?
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  Speaker 1: They put on the simony? Do you know what? I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't believe it when I was reading through the story
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  Speaker 1: and a number jumped out of me. I went, is
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  Speaker 1: that comma where I think it is? Is that comma
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  Speaker 1: where I think, like how you would value it?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know you would value it is?
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  Speaker 1: You couldn't value it on the timber out of it,
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  Speaker 1: because that's not it was ever grown for. So I mean,
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  Speaker 1: was there a lot of money potentially on the line
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  Speaker 1: for film location? You know what I mean?
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  Speaker 2: I suppose that's what it was at six hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand pounds sterling of the King's pounds in damage.
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  Speaker 2: So it wasn't the case of other cut down a
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  Speaker 2: tree how much as a tree fifty pounds, I'll give
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  Speaker 2: you fifty pounds, No, no, no. Obviously, the tourism impact
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  Speaker 2: and the general belovedness of this one particular tree in
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  Speaker 2: England is valued at over half a million of the
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  Speaker 2: king's pounds, and these lads, I can only imagine, started
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  Speaker 2: to feel very very very fucking stupid, very quick. Tom,
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  Speaker 2: can you tell us why they cut down the tree there, buddy?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was quite literally they said it was in
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  Speaker 1: a vertic commas as a bit of a laugh. They
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  Speaker 1: took off journal storm because at first it was suggesting that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it could have been storm damage and did
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  Speaker 1: somebody just tidy it up and just didn't didn't mention it.
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  Speaker 1: But no, they took off journal storm middle of the night.
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  Speaker 1: Fifty mile now wins actually cutting a fucking tree down
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  Speaker 1: A fifty wins Like, do.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm going to tell you, Tom, You
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  Speaker 2: could not find a worsh time to chop down a tree.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, because you don't know what way
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  Speaker 1: it's going to pull now. And we had mentioned at
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  Speaker 1: the time like it was a skilled operator that did
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  Speaker 1: drop it, But you have no idea what way that
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  Speaker 1: tree is gonna twist when it falls. And when a
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  Speaker 1: tree twists, it can kick back and it just won't
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  Speaker 1: poke you and show it'll if it'll fucking delete.
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  Speaker 2: You, forget about it.
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  Speaker 1: You're done a tree. That's it. You may vaporize into
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  Speaker 1: the wind on the same night. But these two absolutely
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  Speaker 1: fucking bllans, one being a groundworker and the other being
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  Speaker 1: a mechanic, they were probably like abnormally inseparable as friends.
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  Speaker 1: I it was the way this kept written over and
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  Speaker 1: over throughout the articles that I that I've read about
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  Speaker 1: it is that they were ludicrously close near a woman
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  Speaker 1: between them. But not a couple of lovers, it would seem.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you really understand it that way. But no,
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  Speaker 1: there could have been a little you know, that's what
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  Speaker 1: the devil.
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  Speaker 2: It's very possible. This wasn't the first time they had
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  Speaker 2: a bit of wood between them.
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  Speaker 1: Tom, you you're going to go there. I was just
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  Speaker 1: hoping you're going to go there?
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  Speaker 2: Com here to me. Must be said as well, because
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  Speaker 2: at the time time you might remember those two lads
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  Speaker 2: pinched for those like a sixty year old man and
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  Speaker 2: like an eighteen year old child. Yeah, I would love them. No,
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  Speaker 2: they did not do it. It was just the other guy.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Graham is thirty nine and Adam Carolers is thirty two,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm looking at a picture of them here now,
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  Speaker 2: And in the words of Indiana Jones, it's not the years.
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  Speaker 2: It's the mileage because these are some bet theawn lads.
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  Speaker 2: Daniel Graham in particular, I swear to God looks neither
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  Speaker 2: left nor right of the the shovel man out of
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  Speaker 2: home alone.
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  Speaker 1: You're one hundred percent. And I mean he is a groundworker,
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  Speaker 1: but groundworkers, I know they. I think this may have
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  Speaker 1: aged in the last year and a half, to be
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  Speaker 1: honest with you, because the friendship, the unbelievable friendship that
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  Speaker 1: apparently they head, has fallen apart, and much like many
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  Speaker 1: you know, like white bandits and whatnot, they've turned on
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: each other. Yes, and they ended up just kind of
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: trying to grass each other up. And of course the
• 10:06
  Speaker 1: cut they played straight into the cops hands. But they
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: were pinged left, right and center. Your man's range rover
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  Speaker 1: was pinged. Brothers range rover was pinged by a uh
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  Speaker 1: you know, the still the still cameras they did the
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  Speaker 1: plate plate recognition.
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  Speaker 2: The play was picked up. Your very your very little
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  Speaker 2: comeback Tom. When you get pinged these days, the last
• 10:24
  Speaker 2: thing you want to do is get pinged.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to get pinged.
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  Speaker 2: You don't want to get pinged.
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  Speaker 1: They they got there, but the phone they were able
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  Speaker 1: to like triangulate between the because it's so easy to
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  Speaker 1: do now, between the tower, the local towers whatever. They were,
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  Speaker 1: the lads exactly there at that time. So it was
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: once they left Chanthum they opened. I mean, they actually
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  Speaker 1: had a two and a half minute video of them
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  Speaker 1: cutting the trip to show who.
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  Speaker 2: Like Actually that was one of the lines tome that
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  Speaker 2: got me in the news story I read as well.
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: It was there was a two and a half minute
• 11:01
  Speaker 2: video of them chopping the tree down, and that video
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  Speaker 2: existed on only two phones in the entire world, these
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  Speaker 2: men's phones. So it wasn't the case of one of
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  Speaker 2: the lads senter to me on WhatsApp. No, that's that's
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  Speaker 2: on your phone pile and your phone alone. That's not
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  Speaker 2: going around the group. You fucking did.
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  Speaker 1: This at the level of like you can only midge
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  Speaker 1: imagine that this wasn't their first dalliance into being a
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: couple of dipshits. These two like they're like something out
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: of a League of Gentlemen, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's exactly what it like, Like I'm seeing proper
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  Speaker 1: fucking inbred looking motherfuckers here, like and they have like
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: you know full well this isn't their first bit of
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: skull degree. But you're like, dudes, you're heading for forty,
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  Speaker 1: you're in your thirties. You're a couple of dudes. If
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: it was two sixteen year old pulled off such a
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: stupid thing, you go, ray not developed, you know, you're
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  Speaker 1: sixteen year a fucking clown. These motherfuckers, you know, are
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: halfway like what I would say, looking Crowthers, especially like
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: he's about two thirds of the way through his life.
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  Speaker 2: A shadow over there and let me tell you the
• 12:05
  Speaker 2: next ten years. But it ain't going to be all
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: that and the anim either, because that is what these
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  Speaker 2: gentlemen are looking at, ladies and gentlemen of the Tom
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry audience. They are looking at up to ten
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  Speaker 2: years in prison. But me and Tom think perhaps, given
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  Speaker 2: the absurd nature of their crime, maybe there's a maybe
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  Speaker 2: there's a maybe there's a more apt punishment that we
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  Speaker 2: could visit upon these men. What do you think, Tom?
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  Speaker 1: See, this is the thing. I'm I'm absolutely fucking warped
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  Speaker 1: in the head, Like here I am out planting trees
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  Speaker 1: and whatnot. I we I have treated the trees that
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: we have like fucking babies for since we got them
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  Speaker 1: as a wedding president seven years ago, Jared, they're finally
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  Speaker 1: getting to go in the ground.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Well these are yeah, you've invested in these.
• 12:47
  Speaker 1: I have, and I have chicken wire around them, and
• 12:49
  Speaker 1: the deer have started nibbling the lower leaves. I will
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: tell you now, if I end up on a BBC
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: article on the Tom and Jerry Show, would sends Tom,
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  Speaker 1: because I've gone to prison for murdering every fucking deer
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  Speaker 1: south of the Mason Dixon line here in this country.
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  Speaker 1: If one of those trees dies as a result of
• 13:06
  Speaker 1: those Nibbli tramps, you'll know I'm saying it out in
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  Speaker 1: public here. I have murdered every deer in the entire
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  Speaker 1: southern part of this country. Be if they kill one
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  Speaker 1: of those trees. So seeing these two fuckheads for no reason,
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  Speaker 1: no falling out, No, because we suggested that maybe it
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: was maybe somebody had a bit of a falling out,
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: somebody was trying to be a bit of a rebel,
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: somebody was trying to you know, two fingers up to
• 13:29
  Speaker 1: the king, or maybe that land was there was a
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: land dispute or something about the whole thing. Nothing other
• 13:35
  Speaker 1: than mindless fuckery with these two absolute clowns. They need
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: to be shamed down to the level of I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it needs to fit the crown. I don't think just
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: straight up bang firement to prison.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: I couldn't be more an agreement which I.
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  Speaker 1: Think these two fuck knuckles would actually thrive in prison.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? It's made for absolute
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  Speaker 1: dunk is like these. I think it needs to be
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  Speaker 1: a specific, brand, new out of the box, bring it
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  Speaker 1: into the court and go jeury. I like your I
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: like your imagination here. Well, by guess what's coming down
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  Speaker 1: the pipe to you.
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  Speaker 2: Too, I think I gotta go on. Okay, So the
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: two gentlemen, mister Carl and mister whatever the other old man,
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  Speaker 2: I think their punishment is that they should be made
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  Speaker 2: to eat that tree.
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  Speaker 1: It's exactly.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: We line up again here, buddy, fucking God, that's exactly
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: what I thought.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I joke sometimes ago if you I will make you
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: eat that phone if you take it off, I joke,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: and I swear to God I'm not joke with you.
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: I want to see them.
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  Speaker 2: Eat the entire tree, that whole tree. They and lads,
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  Speaker 2: you can go home when you have it finished.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred and ten percent every twig, every leaf. I
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: want to see him, not the stump down to an absolute,
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: but I want to see and I want it on
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  Speaker 1: a live stream. It's going it's going to take him
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: the ten years to do it, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: see it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: I want them to saw up the stump and feel
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  Speaker 2: it into a chipper and have it in the morning
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  Speaker 2: like porridge, just leave saw thus to soak overnight. They
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: can have overnight saw thus, like.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, in relation, that is kind of like something
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: you'd see and saw you know what I mean, Like
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: you just like, Okay, he'd have him naked and chained
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: to the fucking tree as well, like you know, but
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I don't care for nakedness. I want to see both
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  Speaker 1: of those motherfuckers eat that tree, eat that tree, that
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: entire tree.
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: I can see. I can see the saw pup come
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: out going like you know, it's just like in life.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: You guys like to chop down trees, but now the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: tree is going to chop down you. You have ten
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: years start chewing, bitch.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Let's just ship brickets every day.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: The ship fire lugs.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: You two bastards. I swear to God, I'm putting this forward.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I mean it does. We're recording on Monday. It does
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: like it's going to be actually sent They're going to
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: be sentenced the day this comes out, So I don't know, Jerry,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: can we get to suggestion it over.
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: I really doubt they're going to make them eat the tree,
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: but I believe the tree still is in existence. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: don't think they minced it up just yet. I think
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: they kept it. And I believe the tree is in
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: storage somewhere or has been chopped up in storage because
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: they've been taking saplings from it. I don't know how
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: trees work. Guys don't come at me in the comments,
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: but I were, whatever the res of that tree, blue.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: Is not going to put it back together, Jeral. I'll
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: tell you that much as much as I know about trees.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: But I think I think and then and then change
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: both their names to just singular names. One is going
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: to be called Sycamore. One is going to be called gap.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: And if they don't get the witch of you guys
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: as sycamore, which is.
• 17:01
  Speaker 3: Can I be kept the savening boase Paul?
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, definitely, I can't believe you.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I was, like I said, Jerry's gonna put a fucking oh,
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: you know a wheel around their neck and make them
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: walk through the village like some yieldie kind of thing
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: and have them stoned or whatever. And I was going,
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: i' we're just going to eat the tree, and you said, eat.
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: The That's that's why it's the Tom and Jerry show, buddy, O.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: My god, that's perfect.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: That's not why it's like Jerry and Cattle whoever you
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: might be, Tom and Finton, Tom perfect, folks. Are we
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: out of pocket with these guys? Maybe, you know, maybe
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: fully suspended ten year sentences would suit them out rightly.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: But remember this is England, not Ireland. They prisonize people
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: over there, so you know, these guys are going to
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: get punished in some regards and we might like to
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: hear from you find folks as to what, oh yeah,
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that punishment might look like. More on that at the
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: end of the show. But we're gonna move on from
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: those lads, Tom, absolutely move on from those lads to
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: other lads. Maybe one lad in particular, one lad in
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: particular who shines so bright during the week that he
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: becomes Tom and Jerry's ladder of the week, and we
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: refer to him as this lad.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: Now there's that guy. This guy's a beauty. He it's
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: my entire week has been getting different smatterings of this
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: lad in different guys as what now popping up? And
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: it's even even it was it was a radio and
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: it wasn't a radio show, but there was that a
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: podcast or something. It popped up in that, but it
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: was a podcast. I wouldn't normally listen to it. I
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: was listening for another reason and they just happened to
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: mention this guy. So I had to do a bit
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: of digging.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Even even you've been listening to the strange podcast without me, Tom, do.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: You know what, just to see how shit they are true?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Be told this guy is so fits the bill of
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: a lad that we would take luc He is an
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: absolute I mean, someone say a madman, but he's a
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: fucking legend in a lot of ways. A chat by
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the name of Tim Freed. Not entirely sure where Tim
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: is from. I think it's Washington State, could be wrong. No, sorry,
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: he's in South San Francisco.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I think.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And Tim has took it upon himself twenty years or
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: eighteen years ago to start, you know, taking a little
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: bits of venom from and I don't mean like the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: Tom Hardy character from I mean, he's letting snakes bite
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: him on the rig two.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Hundred voluntarily allowing snakes to bite him.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: Two hundred times, full on, live, real deal snakes, seven
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: hundred times of microdosing snake venom, just different snake venoms.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Just to see.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, first it was I'm guessing it was to
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: see what what happened, because you're just a lunatic. But
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: his whole thing from the outset is that he would
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: he was trying to basically, you know, like they say,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: sendicate in with it as a sniffle, do you know
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: what or if the sniffle at school or his chicken pox,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: send him in, Send him in the better off, get
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: the young. So they build up a immunity. And it's true,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: it is true. Don't be watching him too much, let
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: him a bit dirty, build up an immunity. Well, our
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: Tim took yeah, exactly. Tim took it to another level
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: of figure. He wanted to build up an immunity, not
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: just for himself. But the way is, I don't know,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's it's all a bit convenient at this day.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: But the way Tim is packaging it right now is
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: that he wanted to develop himself basically as a petri
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: dish to create a new form of blood that could
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: basically take on different snakes. The mad bastard did go
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: under for four days as a result of I mean
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: a viper, a fucking viper bit him. For you, buddy,
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: it went under four days. But as it turns around,
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: he was sought out by accident kind of nearly. Nearly,
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: I say, this is what this This was his like,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: we all want to get interviewed. You know that. This
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: is Jimmy Rabbit getting interviewed by Terry Wogan. Remember Jimmy Rabbit.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: What's that Terry? Yeah? From the commitments. This was his
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: moment where he was praying a top end scientist, which
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: just seek him out, just seek him out, it.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Must be said for Tim now, nobody asked him to
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: do this. He's no snake bites for the love of
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: the game, for the love of the game.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: On yeah, he'd be so like I said, he's he's
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: seven hundred other types of ones. But he he was.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: After that, it was he'd been doing this for eighteen
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: years to the point where he went like it had
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: become so norm at home that he actually went into
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: a coma. Another time, and it was reported to the
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: wife was just tiqu with it. Yeah, you know what
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, Like, when you're at that level like that,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: that's like sneaking off to play nine holes. Do you
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: know what I mean?
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: You're not you know, you know that's that to me
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: is like you know, a husband that maybe takes it
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: up the nose a little bit every now and then
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: when he goes out for pints with the lads or
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: like you know, yeah, I'm going out for pints with lads,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: all right now? No no no bags, lad now, stay
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: out of the jacks. No bags, no keys. Oh yeah, no, No,
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I won't. I won't want to promise except it's not
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: except like he's going out to hold out his wrist
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: and a snake bit him. No, here's here's I'm going
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: to tell you, Tom. No woman will put up with that.
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: Right, she said, I don't know what I'm hoping she's
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: stuck around, But I mean, I suppose let's look at it, right,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: so leaven the micro dos and aside. Right, the seven
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: hundred is done two hundred times and twenty roughly twenty years,
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: ten years there, that's one of you know, we'll say
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: one a month, one a month, you know what I mean?
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: One a month, give her take take it off for
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: Christmas and maybe January as well. You know it knew me,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: new you, you know, New Year, knew me and all
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the rest of it. But you're just back on the
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: horse come February. But like, if all of them don't
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: fuck you up, do you know what I mean? And
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: as do you know? Like anything? Like as time gets by,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: you get perhaps better at carpentry around the house and
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: you can put up a shell that doesn't have everything
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: slide straight off the fucking thing. So she's a bit
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: more faith in you. So if you're getting bitten by
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: a fucking grass snake or a rattler or a diamondback
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: or something, you're like, do you know, do you remember?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: Do you remember sheried? Did this before your sisters waiting two
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: years ago when were down the floor, do you remember
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: it didn't not not a fucking thing to me. You
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: had hairy teeth for a weekend, right, grand But didn't
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I do fine? I was a a drive home after Look.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I die I think I didn't. And it's hard to argue.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: It's hard to argue against did I die? Well?
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Well? And she's like yeah right, not for Jesus Christ.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: If you go into Coma again and we're supposed we
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: have a farmer's market that we're going to at the weekend.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Did you promise? But I swear to God if we're
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: in I see you again and you're fucking up there
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: with more holes in your arm. And it's not as
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: a result of heroin, you know what I mean? Come on,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: come on, I swear to that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, So tom So, So while this guy is doing
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: all this, there's there's a separate party, there's a separate there,
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: I say, a separate lad at work. What's he trying
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: to do?
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: So he is trying to develop a blood type that
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: could possibly counteract your average snake bite, because they can
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: you can only like there is anti venom available obviously,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: like and it's what it is is a little amount
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: of venom. But so it's a tiny minuscule amount so
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: that it allows your blood to nearly behave in a
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: sense that it will learn how to defeat that then
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: turn around and run up the pipe and defeat the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: other one. Now it's not come what out of problems
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: like and it's not one hundred percent effective, and it
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: might be too late. So he was trying to go
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to the one step further and see could we get
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: ahead of that and actually find a blood type, a
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: rare blood type. Could we develop even one that could
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: be you know, because you see like this crowd like
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Montano developing like green. That's yes, mice don't like you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Crazy shit. Well, he was on
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: the same by the same.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: This is I had to look this guy's name. But
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Jacob Glanville is trying to find the pseudo cream for
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: snake bites. He's trying to find an all in one
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: calpol for snake bites. Yeah, and but he the one
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: thing he needed more than that, And I was was,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: oh god, you know what, they'd moved this researcher on
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: down the road another way. Bit now, but where do
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: you get now? I'm not even gonna say that, like,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: if only there was a buy who'd voluntarily let himself
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: be bit by haunts of snakes over a twenty year
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: period until his blood is a pot noodle of anti venom. Yeah,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: there's not going to be one of them that's hanging
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: around the place, isn't you know?
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: He literally said that. He said immediately, I was like,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: if anybody in the world developed these broadly neutralizing antibodies
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: is going to be him. Do you know what I mean?
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: He literally had this when it was told about him.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: He literally had his dream this was this is the
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: best mv his m v P. This is doctor X
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: finding who's the powerful one gene find, you know, like
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Jean's dream.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Freed just fucking wandering round.
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: By black mambas, no skills whatsoever, getting bitten by snakes
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and not fucking dying, like.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Just walking around a sponge for snake. Venomi, you gotta
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: you gotta think that Tim Freed's walking around going like
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: God damn, it got to be a way to make
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: money out of this.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Butndred percent, I can mean, I'm guessing at first it
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: was it had to be a Guinness book thing, you know,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: it had to be a Guinness Book thing, like like
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: he claims now it was like he's thrown out lines
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: there and Tim, God bless you, you do have real
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you know you'd be well read in by your your
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: your marketing people. Because he saying he's saying ship like,
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: do you know I just want to I wanted to
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: develop my blood to a point where I could save
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: somebody that lived eight thousand miles away white him. Save
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: your marriage, Save your marriage to Tim.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Tim, like you know that's what you're doing now,
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: and that's why you're this week's this that because your
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: blood has gone on to develop all manners of wonderful
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: anti snake shit. And Jacob Glanville was delighted to meet you.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: And Jacob Glanville's original plan, it must be said, I
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: do love this. Sorry, Ah, there is not a new
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: thing you can you can let it. Let a snake
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: bite an animal and study the effects of the blood
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: and the closest to the closest they have to it
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: in blood. I guess is is horses horse blood reacts
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: to his snake venom similar to the way the human
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: blood reacts to snake venom. So Jacob Glanville was all
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: set up to let a horse get bit one hundred
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: times by snakes over like an exhausting five year trial.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Piers like, you're at the end of this. Now this
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: horse blood will have the kind of anti venom we're
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: looking at. And someone was like, now there's a buy
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: up the road, there a bye called free freed. Now
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: he's just fucking he's an odd fella. He's an odd
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: fella here. Now he's a nod buy. But no, you
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: don't have to you don't have to torment the poor
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: horse there, pale, because this fella's way ahead. Yeah, he's
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: just got black pudding for blood.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: But but it was his first phone call that he
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: actually ran. He goes, only an American would actually fucking
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: come out with this, like it was a Germans ranger.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: Somebody rang him up first because they rang him. Who
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: rings you? You know what I mean? He rang him like,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: but he rang, and you know anybody else would have like, yeah, listen,
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: we just wanted to relate. He literally went, look, this
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: is going to sound awkward, but I really want your blood.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: I've been hearing a lot about your blood to him,
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: and I think it's the stuff for us.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Essentially, he's he was like, basically, he's he's taught. He's
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: because he's breaking this down for the dummies in the
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: fucking room, like I eat myself and yourself. But he's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: basically said, we are news.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: This must be said.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: It's true. But he basically said, he's after teaching his
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: ammune system to be able to imagine the like he's
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: after teaching his immune system to basically defend against it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: But this is where, this is where they're so excited
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because if you won't just end with snake because a
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: lot of my relative to a lot of fucking bites
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: were malaria and all the rest of it, and waiting
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: to hear where where his research has even ended up.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: This is even better because it gives me an opportunity
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to a stupid accent. It's at the Liverpool School of
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: Tropical Medicine.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: L S. T McGahan coming around in the Tommentary show.
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: For Snake, the chances of there's no there's no snakes
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: around the town.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: Now almost snakes around here, just me and the kids. Now, well,
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: I gotta tell you one thing for Tim Freed, one
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: thing I will say for him. Can you imagine, Tom,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine the face on him after he hung
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: up that phone call from mister Glanville and turned around
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: and the wife went and the phone. Well wait'll I
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: tell you.
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I'd say he went halfway up the stairs and put it,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: put it like a dressing gun around his shoulders, and
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: put something as a crown on his head and spoke
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: from halfway up the stairs, gone like can you imagine
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: how insufferable.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: He would like for yees turned around to the wife.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: But remember now you were giving out to me because
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I was in a comb of the weekend. The assess
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: starts wedding. Huh, well, yes, who just rang me?
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: They're sending a car around. Yeah, ho ho, look at me,
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: King of Castle. Turns out the stupid shit I've been
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: doing for twenty years is pen off.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Of the two of us, now, my dear, which
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: of us has saved a horse from five years of
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: clinical trials? I think it's me.
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: Do you know what let's worries me though, is that
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: there's always like these stupid shiit like remember the ketchup
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: thing or the to meta think that was going on
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: in Dublin for a what There'll be no end of
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: pricks trying to you know, eminate this like what you know,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they're going to just get stung by fucking box jellyfishes
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: every day to fucking you know, there's going to be
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: death galore as a result of this.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I gotta tell you, Tom, If
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: there's a bunch of hipsters out there that want to
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: follow Tim Freed and get stung by snakes, I say,
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: have at it. Lads, us of all the things that
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: I had that I would be happy with you guys
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: jumping on the trend. Knock yourself out, lads and that
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: there you go, Tim Freed, this lad go to Snakes
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: two hundred and Canton because something tells me he's just
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: silly in it for the love of the game. He's
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: going to be like, yeah, well hit me.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: With not a copra there, please, just choppering it, just
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: just flying him around the world to meet new snakes
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and I'll give a shout out. Actually, what he should
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: do is get said to kill Kenny to the reptiles
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: that we were at two weeks ago. Absolutely tremendous, genuinely
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: in your head when you're thinking about Ireland and reptiles,
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, this will be just one blow of the turtoise.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean?
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: It wasn't they have genuine alligators, genuine animators. Yeah, I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: mean they have the most meanest, nastiest, huge looking, bitey
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: looking fuckers. Tim wouldn't last three minutes in there. I
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: don't care. I'm still not buying it. Tim, good idea,
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: but try you out and kill Kenny first.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Bring it hurly him. Might I introduce you to spiders,
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: and now you're talking whole new world, a whole new world.
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: But there you go, Tim Freed, this week's this lad,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: and mister Glanville as well. There I would throw him
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: in on the mixed stare as well, doing wonders for
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: anti venom across the world. Now, Tom, we're gonna wrap
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: up the show here this evening with our final segment because,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: as we've said many times, myself and Tom here are
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: snake biting days are over. I'm mid forties. Tom's not
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: that far behind me. I mean, I'm not gonna devote
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: twenty years to getting bit by snakes. I reckon two
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: or three and I'll be gone. Ibb be out.
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: You don't have it. You don't have it to give.
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: I don't have it to give. But what I do
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: have to give is reminiscence time. We both have it
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: because given the age that we were, we were born
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: in the early eighties, grew up through the eighties, nineties,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: the millennium, the whole lot. Like you know, we've existed
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: that the full crimal life, as we say on the
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: show here, old enough to see old ways die off
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: and new ways come by, and we like to catch
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: up on the things we've seen in a segment that
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: we had the Tama Jerry Show called we Remember when.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: When I was a young lad twenty or thirty or
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: forty years ago.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Tom, this was you know Mtian. Now, when I think back,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of a lot of things
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: that we witnessed, we were the force to do it.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: And it's only now that i'm that I'm that I'm
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: realizing that, like, holy shit, that that was in our time.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I'll give you in a example, Tom, that isn't this
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: week's thing. But do you know that we witnessed high
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: fives come into it?
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: Thing?
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: Weren't the thing? High fives just came in the eighties.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I was talking about somebody did at the other the
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: day about the word cool. Yeah, and I'm sure you
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: know it was. Sure it was there in the sixties
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: and seventies, really using it without feeling like a kid.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: In Ireland, it was really only the youth of the eighties,
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: the youth of the eighties that were getting away with it.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Nobody was saying cool in the seventies and Ireland. They
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: weren't there an American thing.
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: Definitely not Calabunga either. So like I say, just small
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: things like this that you think to yourself, must have
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: been around since the fifties or whatever, since day daughter. Nope, nope, nope.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: Me and this man here, and I dare say a
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: large portion of the listenership we lived through it. And
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: one of the things that I'm always kind of fascinated by.
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: And I always thought it was like something from the
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: fifties and sixties. No, no, no, what we saw of
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: it in the eighties and nineties. Tom was the start, middle,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: and end of it. And that was the E number
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: Panic E number, Panic, my man.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: They turned up in for anybody going to eat them,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: or it was just a phone. No, this was an
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: additives that were put into food, and they were categorized
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: by rather giving them full full name, they would typically
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: just give it an It would begin with an E,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: much like an air code, and it maybe four three
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to four digits and.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: Three four digits after.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: And I used to do a bit about this, and
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: it was almost a Mendela effect when I remember talking
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: about it to people, and it wasn't about the numbers.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: What it was. I used to talk about the anti
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: nutrition of the eighties, whereas we're all hypernutrition now and
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: all the omega threes we can get out of a
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: fucking yoka that grows in the Amazon, and how excited
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: we are by that. But even though we don't know
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: what in the omega three is either, But people, I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: would sin like frozen pizzas arrived in many, many frozen
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: pizzas in the tube of twenty five mini clear plastic bag,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and there was no way there was an ounce of nutrition.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Those things are a bit, but I guarantee if I
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: read the cardboard on the back of which they would
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: sit on a piece of cardboard, I guarantee you the
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: cardboard probably had some sort of fucking cluness that wasn't
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: healthy either. But the numbers, there would be a list
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: of just the numbers, and nobody knew what any of
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: them meant to.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Nobody knew what any of it was. But here's here's
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: the thing. The numbers just came in as a way
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: of categorizing food additives and it was put into place
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: in the eighties, and almost as quickly as it was
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: put into place, tom rumors started as well. Because the
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: additives that were going into your food some good what's
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: that phrase you like? Tom? Sometimes a good?
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: Sometimes the goodness sometimes the.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Shit, but in actual fact, for example, one that I
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: just learned there e one oh one, which we were
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: almost more or less in a second, but like you know,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: E one oh one, it's like, oh, let's scary. I
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: don't one on one is ribal flaving. You can't get
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: enough of it intoa, like you know, they're they're putting
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: it larger and loud and proud on boxes of conflicts. Now, oh,
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: we got all the rible flav and you ever want.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: But rather than put ribal flavin on the of ingredients,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: someone in the eighties decided, why don't we just make
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: a chart and these are the e numbers you want
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: to one, one, o, two, three, forty four all the
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: way up. Just basically give everything a number that's nice
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: and simple. You'll have your ingredients list. This product contains potatoes,
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: starch oil even to one even of five and one
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: oh seven, you're done. Ah good in theory, Tom good
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: in theory. But it didn't take long for people to
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: see these codes on the back of the food and go,
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: what the fuck's on this?
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: We see this is what there was. There was a
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: period where we wanted everything ultra. Now we're coming back around,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: even though I think they are ultra modern now moving
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: at an unbelievable pace. But you see people kind of
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: coming back around in the last you know, the last
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: decades of going gggesus. Well, what we should really just
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: just maybe simplify our food a little bit and take
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: the shit out of it. Because you had your parents,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: shall we say, I suppose their generation where it was
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: homemade food, it just was homeid food because it wasn't
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: it was an it's more basic form. You didn't and
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: then you found in like the late seventies, things a
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: lot of things ended up in cans, you know, like
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: a pie in a fucking can.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Then you had Bento's pie.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bento's Pie, and then you which are still available today.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: They're horrendous. But I have eaten about educasion, especially as
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: a single man, for a long period. They got me
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: through a hump. But there was smash, do you remember
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Smash's the madness of that, like just a powdered form
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: of potatoes.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: There was all The water was big in the seventies
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: and age.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: That's exactly. Just add water. Don't worry, we've looked after
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the rest. It will taste exactly is it's supposed to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: taste like, it'll flow off exactly what it was supposed
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: to look like. Damn near fucking magic. You don't have
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: to worry about a thing. Whereas in reality there was
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: all right things in it. But then you had benzo weights.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: It's showing up left right, and you're like, yes, I'm
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: pretty sure end, but a Z in the middle of
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: it didn't grow out of the fucking ground, and I'm
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: not supposed to be eating.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: This is like. Where whereas sometimes the eat numbers were
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: simple things like vitamin C and hot sometimes they wear
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: literally chemical additives to do many things to your food,
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: not least to change the color of it. And this
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: is where the panic really set in. Because the foods
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: that had a lot of these numbers on it were
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: sweets bright colored orange, red, purple, green, yellow, sweets that
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: kids would eat. You would find the ingredients list on
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: your average Tubusmarties. More on these guys in a little
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: they would have dozens of numbers on it because there
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: were dozens of different colored Smarties and each one needed
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: three or four different additives, and the back of the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: Tubusmarties just became like a laundry list of enomers, and
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: that got a lot of parents, and I dare say
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: a lot of press, because the press are never known
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: to knowing the unstoke of fire. The press were just
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: putting out headlines like do you.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Know what's in your children's food? Shit?
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Do fucking you? But here we are, And it didn't
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: take long before parents started reporting that, Yeah, you know what,
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: my little Johnny he hated whole tuba Smarties. Yeah, and
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: he was very uncontrollable, and he was very hyperactive, and
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: he was very giddy forever after eating it. So I reckon,
• 40:08
  Speaker 2: that's one of them E numbers in them Smarties. So
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, you know, it could be that he
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: just said a whole Tubusmarties that are just basically raw sugar.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Still to filter this day, even fill to this day,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: what did he did? The FDA and everything looking at it,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You're like, no, it's still terrible for you, Yeah it is.
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: There's no there's no, there's no, there's no good in
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: any of this, Tom Mattalia. It's not like I'm like,
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: you know, smart as are fine, feature kids smartes as
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: all they want, but like, I don't know that the
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: E numbers in it were what was pucking your kid crazy.
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: Although as you say, with the bensw it more on
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: them coming up. But the Blue Smartiest, I think Tom
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: was what pushed it over the edge. Blue Smarties came
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: out as best as I can google in nineteen eighty eight,
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: so I would have been eight, you would have been seven.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: I was like, give me all the blue Smarties you got.
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: I've never eaten and blue in my life. I would
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: get a tube smartiess. I would separate the balloones and
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: I would eat them last, like they were the dessert
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: of Smartiest.
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: If you think about it, though, right, if you actually
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: think about it, and you wouldn't. As you just mentioned,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: you actually made a valid point. I've never eaten it
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: in blue. Think about anybody listening right now, when was
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: the last time? Now, leaving out mister freezes and ice
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: pops and things like that, when was the last It
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist in food. That's why you'll often see, like
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: in frough preparation places, the gloves are blue in case
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: a piece of it breaks off, because it doesn't fucking happen.
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: It doesn't happen.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: It doesn't happen. So for the lunatics at Smarties to
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: go I think we'll make a blue one. What do
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: we need?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: We need numbers and a lot of them. And that
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: again was where parents groups were like, hang on a
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: second here, let's just just all slow down here. Now,
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: let's just settle down. The kids are eating all these
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: E numbers, and I dare say, we're not doing too
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: good at the manus, so let's just pump the brakes.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Let's settle down. And that's exactly when the press was like, no, no,
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: you don't have to worry. The numbers are fine, did
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: they bollocks? They were like, you're absolutely right. Take to
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: this stra it's born down everything, you know, just stoking
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: up panic and and confusion and roused tom which we
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: used to which we used to love here. And it went.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: It went for quite some time. It went all through
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: the nineties, the E numbers and whatnot. A study isolated
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: six particularly.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: You know, I heard you sent me this in the
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Texas morning, like, what now we make a left turn here,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Jerika that I think this we're heading towards a different,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: different category, which I'm happy to do, to be honest
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: with you, But I don't think it's gonna to do
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: with sweets. But it turns out you were right.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Known as Yes, indeed, they isolated six colors, I'll give
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: them one, O two, one, O four, one ten, one
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: twenty two, one twenty four and E one twenty nine,
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: which became known as the Southampton six.
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: That was a big thing during the eighties and nineties.
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: Two is if you had a group of something from
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: somewhere in the UK, somewhindows from somewhere in the UK
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they were just known as do you
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: know the the ipswitched nine.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the X number, yes, and yeah, you know the
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Southampton six there sounded like they're you know, wrongly convicted
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: for bombing and pub just just for the Southampton six.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: But the funny thing about the Southampton six it was
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: it's very like it's very like the original Batman movie
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: with with with Michael Keaton, if you remember the Joker
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: was poison in the city. Yeah, but yeah, you know Batman,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the juice that like, you know, shampoo is fine, but
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: shampoo with uh the odorant will poison you. There was
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: a there was a specific combination of it, you know,
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: that's it. Yes, So any any one of these numbers,
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: you're you're more than welcome to you.
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Know, the original Batman was a sy up or something
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: or some sort of subtle hidden meaning in it for
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: all of us to understand that. Okay, perhaps the editives
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: in our everyday products aren't good for us.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know, I mean, you know, I dare
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: say for all the Batman candies I ate and you
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: I don't know where they were cutting into their own
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: profit line there. But basically the set hand and six,
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: you know, one of its zone is probably all right.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: But when they are mixed together, say, for example, when
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: you empty an entire bag of Skittles into your face
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: in one go and just chew it all into one
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: big mushy mush yump, which.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: Which is how I eat Skittles one hundred percent, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you'll get that, You get that that jaw cramp, which
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I'm sure there are professionals out there that can tell
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: me how to get rid of that. But the ones
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: in the Bloomens that eat Skittles, I don't need to know.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: But you get them into me when you when you
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: mix them all up like that, that can cause hyperactivity
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: in kids. So that wasn't a lie. But it wasn't this.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: It wasn't this whole thing of don't eat a Caberry's
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: cream e you'll die? How do you eat yours? In
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: the morgue? Caboury's cream kills thousands, No bollocks, none of it.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: None of it was the is But that was one
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: of the first mass hysteria moments that we experienced in
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: our life. Tom not the last, buddy.
• 45:12
  Speaker 4: I like that.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I like some of the names that they've given them,
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: though when you do actually go you know, when you're
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: say research, but what then the actual names outside of
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: the so tartazane sounds exactly like you know, it's got
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: an een and his head in it sounds exactly, you know, dreadful,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: it'll kill a dog if it looked to it. But
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: then E one O four is Queen no line yellow,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: which is like, can't be that bad, can't be that?
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: That's that's that's like, isn't that the stuff that make
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: tonic water out of? Okay? I can.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Is sun says yellow, like that's what that? Yes, your lads,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: you're pushing the funk about that. There's another one that carameusine.
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: Okay does sound kind of like some place you might
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: find yourself in Italy, you know, Yes, and the one apparently,
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: which is right nowt It was just called a Lura
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: red which sounds like a lippy. It does cost thirty
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: four euros a tube, you know what I mean? The
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: ones that were like were those are the ones that
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: were I suppose famous for the hyperactivity in kids. But
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it was the ones that Okay, they are all made
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: in the lab by by amestation some glasses. It's the
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: ones where they came from originally creeped the living shit
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: out of me, like the E one twenty. Do you
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: know what that is? Jar?
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: What's that time?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a red food coloring. But guess what they
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: made the red food coloring from? Jer Oh?
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: Should I know this? Go on?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Otherwise known as cochneil or caramine. It's made from
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: insects smashed up to fit. Like you, I mean, there
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: are lads who know what they're doing in the Amazon
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: for thousands and thousands of years. Leave that carry on
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: to them. I don't think our immune system would probably
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: need fred or what's the tiam on board? For this one?
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: It was another one then, like I remember doing a
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: silly reels video on this that I didn't know when
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I heard the word shell act I knew that was
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: for nails. Turns out anything that was shellecked. I eat
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: the glossy shell on a on, a skittle, on a
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: smarty on anything glossy shelled. It was shellac, which is
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: squeezed out of the butthole of a shellac spider. Yes, yes, yeah,
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: that good batter and different jer I'm not overly, I'm not.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not running across the road to say kind of
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: a shlleck spider's asshole. That's all I'm saying.
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: I know I'll save that for Varis, but there you go,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: and not for nothing as well. In the middle of
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: all this, I was like, did I did we live
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: through the introduction of Eminem's into this country? I think
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: we did. Tom Well, that's a story for another day.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: The eminem and v of Ireland and England in the
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: mid eighties. Do you remember the slogan ton what's logan?
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: The slogan for Eminem's, Oh.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: Fucking creep something creepy about melting your hand or something.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: You go the milk chocolate melts in your mouth, not
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: in your hand. There was always a free melted in
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: your hand, just fine.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: There was a creepy vibe to that that Sheillac wore
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: off for you, that that spider ass juice wore off
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: pretty quick.
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: I think you'll find Schillac is a good conductor of
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  Speaker 2: are we are we miles wrong here? Folks? Are we wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I like you know you will notice this years when
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: probably everything started screaming about no artificial colors or preservatives
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: became as much of a selling point as all the
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: artificial colors and preservatives when they initially started releasing things.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, maybe the panic was justified, maybe a
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  Speaker 2: good thing happened here, or maybe it was just like
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: a bunch of people getting mad.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And it was always there was always, and still to
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: this date, there's always that one or two young flas
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  Speaker 1: in the class that when they come around, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it comes around to party time or whatever, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the youngsters. You gotta keep the chucky in the
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  Speaker 1: and the sweetes away from, especially the hard shelled yokes,
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  Speaker 1: because the mother will give you a look like, no,
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  Speaker 1: he'll handle like he'll, he'll he'll he'll actually knock the
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: extension off the back your house like he will. He
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  Speaker 1: goes fucking full hulk, if I mean.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: And that's as true of eating things with the numbers
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  Speaker 2: in it as it is when any child eating a
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  Speaker 2: quilo of picking mix meeting community. There you go, There
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  Speaker 2: you go, folks. You can let us know what you
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  Speaker 2: think about all that nonsense on our social media channels
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  Speaker 2: at Tom and Jerry Show, Jerry with g will get
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  Speaker 2: us on Twitter and indeed Instagram. You'll find me at
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  Speaker 2: Jerry McBride over on Blue Sky and Tom o'man and
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  Speaker 2: his heart of choice is Instagram. Join us and converse
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  Speaker 2: about all this and more nonsense. What else would we
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  Speaker 2: like these fine people? Do Tom when you.
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  Speaker 1: So do as you're listening right now in Spotify. You're like,
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  Speaker 1: I never had a problem with you numbers. That a
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  Speaker 1: fucking do you know what? And if you if you
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: think we were too harsh on the lads with the tree,
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: come at us, you know what I mean? Maybe you've
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: come up with a way, a more ingenious way, no doubt.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: I don't think we went anywhere near hard.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: No, I agree, I think we've left the gate open
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: to people absolutely going to town. Now. Look, aside from
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: not killing the two lads, that's.
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: Something that we can read that in the podcast here,
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  Speaker 2: also something with.
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: A bit more imagination and killing the two lads. Because
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: that's easily done, you know what I mean, Let's have
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: a bit of fun with it. We If like that,
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: you can leave it in the in the Spotify or
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  Speaker 1: the Spotify commonplace, most likely place we'll see. I actually
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: get notifications to that. On the Apple one. Nobody tells
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• 50:57
  Speaker 1: And Jerry mentioned because I know I don't know where
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  Speaker 1: where all that goes into some fucking either, but at
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: least with Spotify, I can see it. Yes, you wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: mind as well as that, give it the five stars.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't done, do it right now, give it
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  Speaker 1: five stars. If you're going maybe don't worry about it,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: but hit the bell after subscribing, so lends into your
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  Speaker 1: phone every single Thursday other that you're I'm in no
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  Speaker 1: form to go digging holes, but I feel that me the.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you go to you know, you're go
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: out for revenge tomting two holes. But before we go
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: out there, we threw out to the social Media's there
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: what you thought of Maniact two thousands? Oh yeah, ourselves
• 51:38
  Speaker 2: opinions very tom opinions, very from It was indeed the
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  Speaker 2: day the music died. To another listener, a friend of
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: the podcast, who says that his then fiance now wife
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: insisted upon it being played on their wedding day, it
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: may be may or not been a deal breaker if
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: Maniact two thousand did not ring out on that day.
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  Speaker 2: I don't. He doesn't clarify if it was. It wasn't
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: the first stance, but imagine it was.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: He doesn't clarify if it was his first wife. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean? It could have gone either way.
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  Speaker 2: The seventy six percent of people polled on the Tom
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  Speaker 2: and Jerry Twitter I think mainly actual hasn't was a
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  Speaker 2: tune then and as a tune now. So who are
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: we argue? More to the point, who might argue? I
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: would think I was the only stand out on that
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  Speaker 2: particular one.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't if I remember not minding it. But
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: I like to think that if I clarified anybody's thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on it. Reading out the actual lyrics sellars fucking insanity,
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  Speaker 1: Like the Fever Dream that that was. I listened back
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  Speaker 1: to it like last week. I went, Jesus Christ Almighty.
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  Speaker 1: I said, all those that word sell it together all
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  Speaker 1: at the same time.
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  Speaker 2: I need.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, sometimes I'm I wonder if I'm overthinking the
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: things I write. And then I look at DJ Mark
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: mcaven't like you.
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: You know, let's let's go get some Chellet covered sweets
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: for ourselves and just wig Out
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Has good read Doctor Frock, Tom Wright, comere go on
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  Speaker 2: the luck.