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Speaker 2: Now, hey, great day to be an American.
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Speaker 1: Great day, day to be an American. For the next
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Speaker 1: four years, the United States of American can claim that
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Speaker 1: we are the greatest hockey country in the world. And
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Speaker 1: there's nothing anybody can say about it. There's nothing another
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Speaker 1: individual from any other country, especially the ones just above
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Speaker 1: our head, especial especially McKinnon. McKinnon, dude, I'm telling you so.
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Speaker 1: I spent my week last week in Canada, in British Columbia,
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Speaker 1: in foreign soil, behind enemy lines, which by the way,
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Speaker 1: is a great movie. Owen Wilson shadowt him uh and
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Speaker 1: the whole week, they're like, the chirps are starting and
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Speaker 1: we put a couple of bets out with some guys
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Speaker 1: are also from Canada, but my wife's family, everybody, everybody
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Speaker 1: is just saying, Hey, we're gonna he listen, this has
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Speaker 1: been fun for you guys. Gonna the same is the
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Speaker 1: Foig Nations Tournament. We're gonna dominic. We got McKinnon and
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Speaker 1: we got McDavid, We got all these guys. We we
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Speaker 1: are so much better than you all the place. Oh
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Speaker 1: and then and then we start winning. We get to
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Speaker 1: the gold. Your path to the gold was so easy.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna body bag you guys. And I told them
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Speaker 1: all week. Hey, you guys are gonna lose. It's okay,
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Speaker 1: it's time for your time as the hockey powerhouse is over.
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Speaker 1: It's done. McKinnon guy's overrated. McDavid guy is over rated.
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Speaker 1: I'm just letting you know. I'm hey, I watched the film.
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Speaker 1: You guys seen me on skates. J Sherm's got it
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Speaker 1: up right now, Like that's natural, that's natural for me
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Speaker 1: on those skates. I understand the game, I can tell
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Speaker 1: that these guys are a little overrated. What happens Connor
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Speaker 1: McDavid in that game breakaway has separation. We can't even get.
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Speaker 7: The puck off, so the guy can't even get the stick.
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Speaker 1: McKinnon pass over the middle, a goal lily bigger than
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Speaker 1: this bus, wide open, can't even put his stick on
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Speaker 1: the book. And then I call. I call Quinn after
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Speaker 1: my brother in law, My sweet, sweet, tiny little brother
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Speaker 1: in law, Quinn Galler. I call him and he won't answer.
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Speaker 1: Three hours later, no answer. Finally get him on the phone,
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Speaker 1: got my fake teeth right there at the screen, smiling.
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Speaker 7: I go.
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Speaker 1: He's like, dude, whatever folk you do? Whatever do we we?
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Speaker 1: We should have beat your should have been five to
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Speaker 1: one team sport man, and what are you mad about?
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Speaker 1: He was, what do you mean we lost? I was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but you knew.
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Speaker 2: So, Derek, he's complaining because we just had a great goalie. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't think can we have the best goalie the
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Speaker 2: best player in the game.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. And also he plays here's a sus he plays
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Speaker 1: for a Canadian team with the Winnipeg Jets, and which
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Speaker 1: is even better. And it's just like Quinn he what
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Speaker 1: are you mad about. It's like someone's saying, hey, this
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Speaker 1: is going to happen, something telling you. I told you
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Speaker 1: last week America is gonna win. I told you McKinnon
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Speaker 1: and McDavid are they're overrated. They're gonna they're gonna have
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Speaker 1: soiled their pants when the time comes. Sure enough, sure enough,
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Speaker 1: they did prophesize. Yeah, they actually made fun of the Hughes,
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Speaker 1: Jack Hughes, Quinnhughes. They made fun of them last week.
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Speaker 1: You get that's who you guys have, all right. I
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, Austin Matthews, Like, oh he sucks. Like
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Speaker 1: let's where he's the captain of your Toronto Maple Leafs
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Speaker 1: original sixteen stuff. He's from Scottsdale, along with the Kachuck brothers.
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Speaker 1: Had to hear all about how the Kachuck brothers are dirty
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Speaker 1: and they play don't play the game the right way.
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Speaker 1: So you know, you guys don't like standing on business.
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Speaker 1: Guys don't like standing on business. So how do we feel?
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Speaker 1: So I've talked enough, I'd love to just wanted to
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Speaker 1: get that out. I just wanted to get that out
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Speaker 1: because I've had to sit there for the last week
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Speaker 1: and just hear all this nonsense, all this all this
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Speaker 1: mainstream Canadian propaganda just shoved in my face over and
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Speaker 1: over again. Love the country, love the people, but my god,
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Speaker 1: you guys need to get better at hockey. You guys
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Speaker 1: need to get back.
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Speaker 2: It's been fun seeing the uh, the rage that the
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Speaker 2: Canadians have because we've obviously, like America, like we're doing
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Speaker 2: it's victory lap Tuesday. It's gonna be victory lap for
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Speaker 2: the next four years.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: It's just like you know how anybody feels, like whether
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Speaker 2: it's the Patriots winning or you know who else in
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Speaker 2: like college football, Alabama, maybe Georgia, when those arrogant fan
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Speaker 2: bases do their victory laps, like they have all of
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Speaker 2: America now to deal with because we are, like we're
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Speaker 2: on like such a united front, like Team USA, the
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Speaker 2: hockey team, both men's and women's, brought our country together,
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Speaker 2: Like as we're watching on Sunday morning, when the men's
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Speaker 2: take the Canadians down, it's like our entire countries together,
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Speaker 2: and now they have to deal with the Americans for
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Speaker 2: the next four years four years and here in like
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Speaker 2: it's not even our best sport, it's like our fourth
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Speaker 2: best sport and just they're just gonna have to take it.
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Speaker 2: It's fun to watch. The part of me does feel
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Speaker 2: bad because Canadians are such nice people, great people, great people,
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Speaker 2: but to see him, just to to trigger them a
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Speaker 2: little bit, to.
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Speaker 1: Kind of touch their pain. It's I've enjoyed the entertainment
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Speaker 1: and America being like instigators kind of just as a
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Speaker 1: general populace. We're gonna that's gonna happen for the next
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Speaker 1: four years, and it does paying me that I know
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Speaker 1: I have to go. I'm going back to Canada on Thursday,
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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have to, you know, go through customs
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Speaker 1: with a full red, white and blue outfit on. And
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Speaker 1: it's not I don't.
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Speaker 2: Ye what's in your bag? You open it up, it's
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Speaker 2: just a folded American flag.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, like I I don't want to, but I have to.
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Speaker 1: I have to. And all these areas. I got to
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Speaker 1: send a few of these to a few family members. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: all these arrogant fan bases you talk about, like the
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Speaker 1: Alabama's of Georgia is the Michigan's. When they win, they
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Speaker 1: kind of do their victory lap. That's one year and
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Speaker 1: then they then something that you know, next year, usually somebody.
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Speaker 2: What happens, what happens in the if they beat us
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Speaker 2: in the Four Nations next year?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can have the Four Nations will we're talking
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Speaker 1: about the Olympics.
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Speaker 2: Talking about the Olympics in there, like like hockey players
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Speaker 2: saying they'd rather win a uh what's it called? Not
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Speaker 2: the World Series, it's Stanley Cup, Stanley Cup more than
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Speaker 2: they would the gold medal.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure there's some people with that. Yeah, guy, guys
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Speaker 1: who got guys who got on the squad, And I know,
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Speaker 1: like we're we're giving a hard time to Canada. David's
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Speaker 1: a good player, but can it's good player. But when
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Speaker 1: they were handing them the silver medals and it shows
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Speaker 1: their faces and then they hand them the little stuffed animal.
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Speaker 1: Also just yeah, yeah, say, like what the fuck is
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Speaker 1: this man?
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Speaker 3: All the medals and then they come back through and
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Speaker 3: they're like, sorry, I have to do this, but here's
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Speaker 3: this little.
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Speaker 1: Here's a little stuffed animal. Yeah, like this is where
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Speaker 1: we are.
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Speaker 2: Great work today, hand them the little fucking stuffed animal.
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Speaker 1: But dude, best feeling in the world that game, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm sitting there watching.
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Speaker 2: Then when we go into O T I hit the
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Speaker 2: group chat because again I don't watch hockey, and like,
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Speaker 2: do we have a shot with the three on three?
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Speaker 2: And then Porter was like, oh, Canada is way better.
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Speaker 2: They got a way better started.
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Speaker 1: I was thinking the same thing, because that's what it's like.
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Speaker 2: It's not even close if you want to starting three,
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Speaker 2: like Canada's got like the three of the best.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh shit, that's they have like top three
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Speaker 1: of like the top five best forwards in the world
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Speaker 1: and of all yeah, yeah, like like McDavid this year, right, McKinnon, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: he leads in goals, still a rated McDavid. Obviously, he's
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Speaker 1: like what the next Sidney Crosby And I don't know
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Speaker 1: if I'm throwing out the right thing here, but these
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Speaker 1: guys are unbelievable, unbelieving.
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Speaker 2: Our goalie is insane, even in that first period, like
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Speaker 2: when we were up, when we were up one oh,
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Speaker 2: and they kind of were down around our net like
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Speaker 2: a Matt Again, this is this is a I'm a
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Speaker 2: football player talking about trying to talk about hockey, but
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Speaker 2: they're sitting there peppering our goalie, Pepper and our guy.
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Speaker 2: I'm thinking, dude, this could be a long I can't
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Speaker 2: believe that they're not scoring more on us because they
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Speaker 2: were just it seemed like they were in attack the
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Speaker 2: whole time, especially in the third period too. It seemed
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Speaker 2: like Canada was just taking over, but they just couldn't
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Speaker 2: score on us. And old boy has the has a
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Speaker 2: shot right there on the old McKinnon, who leads the
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Speaker 2: league goals apparent legitimately felt like when I'm sitting you're
9:56
Speaker 2: sitting there playing NHL for the first time, you're trying
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Speaker 2: to figure out the controls. You get your first breakaway
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Speaker 2: and you don't know what button that was.
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Speaker 1: McDavid. Yeah, it's got like, fuck, dude, I was pushing X.
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Speaker 1: I was pushing the whole time. So this game sucks, Yes, yes, exactly, dude.
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Speaker 1: To watch that second period, they outshot us, what nineteen
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Speaker 1: shots to eight shots, and it got to a point
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Speaker 1: the last ten minutes of that second period where they'd
10:18
Speaker 1: be in our zone. So the balloon line that third
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Speaker 1: they're in our zone the whole time that we're just
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Speaker 1: literally dumping it so we can make a line change
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Speaker 1: just to get fresh guys out there to once again
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Speaker 1: take on the onslaught of Canada. And so, dude, that
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Speaker 1: five on three was crazy. Score on the five on
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Speaker 1: three when they when they had the penalty on Mike.
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Speaker 1: That sucks. And then they then we had what high
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Speaker 1: sticking Hughes got the high sticking Jack Hughes, which is
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Speaker 1: awesome that he lost every part of this. No, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he was in the box four high sticking. Who's the
10:50
Speaker 1: dude that lost? He the same guy, different high stack,
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Speaker 1: different different moment. He got a guy with a high stick,
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Speaker 1: which put them in a five on three. So we're
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Speaker 1: hitting the like triangle defense just like, hey, hope to
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Speaker 1: god this works out. And they the fact that they
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Speaker 1: killed that with as good as Canada is how they
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Speaker 1: have the best players in the world. They couldn't score
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Speaker 1: on three guys.
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Speaker 8: An automatic like you have to score on a five
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Speaker 8: on three and hockey everybody scores.
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Speaker 1: Them, especially when you have the players that Canada has,
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Speaker 1: even I mean even a regular power play you should
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Speaker 1: they should be.
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Speaker 8: They were getting too cute. They wouldn't shoot the puck.
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Speaker 8: They were trying to find like the wide open that. Yeah,
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Speaker 8: were getting too cute about it.
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Speaker 1: You know. We talked about like red zone efficiency and
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Speaker 1: stuff like that in the NFL America's power play efficiency.
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Speaker 1: I believe was one hundred percent in the Olympics. So
11:37
Speaker 1: every time we got a penalty and a guy was
11:39
Speaker 1: in the box, we're playing one man down. No one
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Speaker 1: scored on us.
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Speaker 9: And that's what I loved about overtime too, because what
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Speaker 9: you want to see is best on best. Right, they
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Speaker 9: have the best players in the world. Trim the fat,
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Speaker 9: drop the other two players. Give me three on three,
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Speaker 9: our best versus their best three. What did we find out?
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Speaker 9: We had the best Connor McDavid McKinnon. Whoever else is
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Speaker 9: out there? Nobody, No, they're nobodies, They're nobodies. We had
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Speaker 9: three on three.
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Speaker 4: We saw it with our own eyes and we saw
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Speaker 4: what happened.
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Speaker 1: Who's the cat from the Blackhawks? Is it Connor Bdard?
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Speaker 6: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: I wonder what's going Is it Badard? Yeah? I want
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Speaker 1: to know what's going through his mind? Because I was
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Speaker 1: when I was really trying to dive into the Olympics
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Speaker 1: and the teams, and everyone's something about Canada and I
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Speaker 1: kind of have a somewhat of a pulse in America
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Speaker 1: and I hear that Connor Madard didn't make the team.
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Speaker 1: I started looking into it. Apparently he had like he's
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Speaker 1: this prodigy kid, right comes into eighteen ultimate Prodidt's supposed
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Speaker 1: to be the next grade when the next way Gretzky
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Speaker 1: type of individual has an underwhelming first two years, which
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Speaker 1: is actually good, but just because of the expectations, this
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Speaker 1: kid wasn't great this year. He's been lighting it up?
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Speaker 1: Am I correct and saying now, been lighting it up?
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Speaker 1: And he got snubbed for the Canada team this year.
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Speaker 1: And this kid is apparently electric the one, Yeah to
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Speaker 1: make it. If you're a Canadian you're watching the show
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Speaker 1: right now, you probably gotta be thinking of to yourself,
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Speaker 1: would it have been different if the one was on
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Speaker 1: the team?
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Speaker 10: Well, they had they had Celebrini.
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Speaker 1: Hey, I guess we'll never know. I guess we'll never
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Speaker 1: never know. And about oh Sidney Crosby didn't play.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what does that even mean?
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Speaker 1: Sidney Crosby.
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Speaker 2: I know because he took us down and what.
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Speaker 1: He's undefeated with Canada when he plays, they're like twenty
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Speaker 1: nine and oh or something like that.
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Speaker 2: I know he's a monster, But why I don't I
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Speaker 2: don't understand the bitching like, oh, we didn't have Sidney Crosby.
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Speaker 2: It's like, well he's getting old. Yeah, Like people, oh
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Speaker 2: you have the best goal It's like, I don't understand
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Speaker 2: some of those complaints. Those It's like, oh, you're playing
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Speaker 2: that's all beat us because you had the better quarterback. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: or you had Lebron James on your three on three
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Speaker 2: team back when Lebron was in his prime.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you what what you're saying is just you're
13:46
Speaker 1: just pointing out loser mentality arguments. That's like, hey, we
13:50
Speaker 1: beat you. Uh. McKinnon sits there and he's like, you
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Speaker 1: tell me who the best team on the ice was.
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Speaker 1: It's like, well, the best team on the ice is
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Speaker 1: the one that scored more points.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, our fourth best sport in the United States. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: beat your number one and sport in the country.
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Speaker 1: And listen, we've already I love Canada. I'm going back
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Speaker 1: up there. I love it. But you guys got to
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Speaker 1: take this out. People, You gotta take this l It's
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Speaker 1: tough because, yeah, we have the best goalie. It is
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Speaker 1: maybe in the history of the world. It is funny
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Speaker 1: seeing I didn't know period sports sock all of it.
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Speaker 1: We have the best goalie of all time.
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Speaker 3: Connor Halla to your to your point about Canadians having
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Speaker 3: to put up with us, they just need to delete
14:28
Speaker 3: Twitter because they don't know.
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Speaker 4: Right now, they're falling for everything.
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Speaker 2: It's so saying they're hanging their flag and half mass
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Speaker 2: and it was the Pride. It was the Pride flag,
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Speaker 2: just like Yo, they're gonna have to deal with it.
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Speaker 2: They're gonna have to deal with America for Oh, they're
14:43
Speaker 2: gonna hate themselves.
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Speaker 1: And if let's just say we go to a four
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Speaker 1: nations tournament next year and they win, Dude, it's not
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Speaker 1: even a it's not even a hit up the Olympic goal.
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Speaker 1: Oh you guys, you thinking this little little prize, this
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Speaker 1: a little all star prize. Yeah, we kind of sat
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Speaker 1: our best players. Yeah, they weren't even trying exactly. It's
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Speaker 1: just it's beautiful. Dude in my phone between first and
15:04
Speaker 1: second period, blowing up, Hey, we're gonna get you all
15:07
Speaker 1: these things after between the second and third it was
15:09
Speaker 1: an onslaught of just the way you guys are gonna fall.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna beat you four to one. When that game ended,
15:16
Speaker 1: I tried calling all those people back. No one would answer.
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Speaker 2: You are sitting there watching like, damn, when are they
15:22
Speaker 2: gonna get one of these?
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Speaker 1: They just don't attack the whole time.
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Speaker 3: People are talking about McAvoy's save though, how abuck gets
15:29
Speaker 3: whatever pulled out a position. Our demon steps in and
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Speaker 3: just takes one in the chest and keeps it out.
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Speaker 1: Bro, there was a time Austin Matthews was in there
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Speaker 1: just holding this chest out. Way did it take one
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Speaker 1: on the chin, take a cold puck in the face
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Speaker 1: for his country?
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Speaker 8: This was truly like as like a kid growing up
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Speaker 8: in America, you hear about like Lake Plaid in nineteen eighty.
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Speaker 8: I got to play a tournament there, like the history,
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Speaker 8: and then like twenty ten, we're starting to knock on
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Speaker 8: the door. Like you, I say, hockey's comming, but like
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Speaker 8: all the Canadian guys like it's never happening, and like
16:03
Speaker 8: you start to see it slowly, slowly, like these Americans
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Speaker 8: are coming up. We win World Juniors, we win Worlds,
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Speaker 8: but we're knocking on the door. And then for like
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Speaker 8: forty six years we are we are just holding on
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Speaker 8: this nineteen eighty victory. The Canadians, Oh it's over. You
16:18
Speaker 8: guys are never coming back.
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Speaker 1: We just got the movie The Miracle.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, all you have is miracle. It's not the
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Speaker 8: eighties anymore. Twenty twenty six, Loaded American team. Jack fucking Hughes, Jack.
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Speaker 1: Jack Hughes.
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Speaker 10: Forty six years to the date when we beat Russia.
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Speaker 1: And when he gets on the mic with the reporter
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Speaker 1: after the game and he goes, I love this country.
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Speaker 1: We're a team like this is about the flag. I'm
16:44
Speaker 1: sitting there and I'm like, how do you not just
16:47
Speaker 1: have incredible pride of where you're from. Yeah, it's just
16:50
Speaker 1: wearing the colors, wearing the colors having and I those
16:53
Speaker 1: like the throwbacks for the eighties or it was.
16:54
Speaker 10: Psycha, it was this.
16:56
Speaker 8: They owned the nineteen sixty squad, buddy, when they have
16:58
Speaker 8: the nineteen sixty team.
16:59
Speaker 1: Those uniforms, those are flying around And I thought to myself, like,
17:03
Speaker 1: what is the coolest? What is like would be the
17:06
Speaker 1: coolest thing as an athlete? It's representing your country and
17:09
Speaker 1: something like the Olympics.
17:10
Speaker 8: And to beat that has got to be the coolest.
17:12
Speaker 8: And how they beat us in twenty ten?
17:13
Speaker 2: And ot, who's the dude too, who's like a third
17:17
Speaker 2: generation brock Nelson.
17:19
Speaker 8: His his uncle was on the eighty team and his
17:22
Speaker 8: grandfather was on the sixty team, the both teams that
17:24
Speaker 8: won the gold.
17:25
Speaker 10: And he yeah, he's how badass.
17:27
Speaker 6: Is that.
17:31
Speaker 1: What Olympics?
17:32
Speaker 2: Will he be a part of? Will his boy be
17:34
Speaker 2: a part of?
17:35
Speaker 1: Part of the expectation on that kid is insane. Yeah,
17:40
Speaker 1: it is what persia mixed diamonds.
17:43
Speaker 10: Lives in your teeth.
17:45
Speaker 2: My grandpa and my uncle both won the Olympic gold
17:47
Speaker 2: and now I have one teeth.
17:49
Speaker 1: And then and then when they ask you about your teeth,
17:51
Speaker 1: you're like, I live in America. We have great dentists.
17:53
Speaker 10: And then you come home to Tate McCrae, a Canadian who's.
17:55
Speaker 8: Dating fella on real fala is.
18:04
Speaker 1: Jack Hughes is already the sportsman of the year. No
18:07
Speaker 1: one else needs to apply iconic image that will define
18:11
Speaker 1: US hockey for a generation. That's a that's a Kevin
18:14
Speaker 1: Zetral Food's clean take. That's a clean take right there.
18:16
Speaker 4: It needs to be on Mount Rushmore, bro car.
18:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, let's see the caption again. Sure so the
18:23
Speaker 2: Kevin Zetral food clean takes come from William the eighteenth
18:26
Speaker 2: Dog's William on ex. Jack Hughes is already the sportsman
18:29
Speaker 2: of the year. No one else even needs to apply
18:31
Speaker 2: iconic image that will define US hockey for a generation.
18:35
Speaker 2: Clean take by William the eighteen.
18:40
Speaker 1: When we're when we US America is taking photos with
18:43
Speaker 1: our goals, and two guys skate away and they start
18:45
Speaker 1: talking about it is a gudrou Johnny Gudreau who passed
18:48
Speaker 1: away in a car accident. These two guys who are
18:51
Speaker 1: technically these kids uncles. Johnny Gujau has two kids, goes
18:55
Speaker 1: to the stands and grabs those kids with the jersey
18:57
Speaker 1: and brings it over so those kids can be a
19:00
Speaker 1: part of something that their dad would have been a
19:02
Speaker 1: part of. I mean, I'm borderline getting choked up just
19:04
Speaker 1: talking about the video.
19:05
Speaker 11: Once they first touched the ice and they have the
19:07
Speaker 11: kids and you see the whole team just start going
19:10
Speaker 11: nuts for the kids.
19:11
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, the daughter's smiling, like I know, man,
19:15
Speaker 1: that it's too pure. Yeah, it's too pure.
19:18
Speaker 8: He was like a pioneer for USA hockey. He was
19:20
Speaker 8: like one he really yeah, Like he was on Boston
19:23
Speaker 8: College eighteen years old when the Heisman for hockey. He's
19:26
Speaker 8: like five foot seven, one hundred and thirty pounds winning
19:29
Speaker 8: the Hobe Baker the Heisman. He's like one of the
19:31
Speaker 8: pioneers that got USA hockey like back.
19:34
Speaker 10: Into the mix.
19:35
Speaker 8: He should have been on the team, he's been on Worlds,
19:36
Speaker 8: he's been, he played the World Juniors, and so like
19:40
Speaker 8: Dylan Larkin and Ku Chuck like grabbing his daughters and
19:43
Speaker 8: his son and his daughter, like.
19:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was amazing.
19:45
Speaker 4: It's unreal.
19:46
Speaker 8: The USA hockey brotherhood is you just can't beat it.
19:49
Speaker 8: Like it is truly something.
19:51
Speaker 2: You can't beat. The hockey camaraderie.
19:52
Speaker 1: No hockey culture is one of one man. You have
19:55
Speaker 1: twenty five guys on a team, Yeah, and they all
19:58
Speaker 1: just ride together and roll there. Like when I was
20:00
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20:02
Speaker 1: hockey guys would just rolling packs and they would they
20:05
Speaker 1: were always together and they just would play poop Dollar
20:08
Speaker 1: and I've always fucking do their thing, getting weird. It
20:11
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20:15
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20:17
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20:20
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20:21
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20:24
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22:21
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a bet with Kyle from Noteboy. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: so Kyle, he's full blooded Canadian, He's.
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Speaker 1: A full blow he's peer blood, he's pure blood Canadian
22:30
Speaker 1: and uh I will yeah, yeah, uh was it? Jack?
22:35
Speaker 1: You mean demon We're in Vegas. We're at the sports
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Speaker 1: book putting one in for the UFC, and he's there.
22:40
Speaker 1: They're putting something in and I was like, hey, Olympics
22:42
Speaker 1: are coming up, we should like do a fun bet,
22:44
Speaker 1: like for content or whatever. And he's like, oh, yeah,
22:47
Speaker 1: I'm man blah blah blah blah. A couple of months
22:49
Speaker 1: ago by I hit him up a couple of times
22:51
Speaker 1: really no response, kind of doing whatever, and then all
22:53
Speaker 1: of a sudden he's a DM. He was nervous. I
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Speaker 1: get a DM from him and his boy who's always
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Speaker 1: with him every time I see him, and then he's like,
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Speaker 1: whatever you want. It's in one of the videos that
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Speaker 1: Matt did. What's actually a give a run of Pluster Man.
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Speaker 1: He did a lot of content for me this week,
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Speaker 1: putting together videos Matt Matt, and Matt was like I
23:08
Speaker 1: would call him, it would answer in the first ring
23:10
Speaker 1: and then he'd be like, hey, I'm an eat dinner
23:11
Speaker 1: and I'll get done one hour later that that's fucking done.
23:15
Speaker 1: Yeah twin bed. Yeah. So Kyle, Kyle sends me a
23:20
Speaker 1: nice little selfie video, be like, whatever you want to
23:22
Speaker 1: put on it, action money, We're gonna do whatever. You
23:25
Speaker 1: can't even tie skates. Proved him wrong. You can't skate
23:28
Speaker 1: proved him wrong. So he's like, whatever you want to do,
23:31
Speaker 1: we can go and do those things. So Matt and
23:33
Speaker 1: I were talking about it. He's our hockey guy, like
23:36
Speaker 1: we got to figure something out. Matt had a phenomenal
23:38
Speaker 1: idea of the loser, which was Canada in this instance.
23:41
Speaker 1: So Kyle has to fly to Washington, d C. In
23:44
Speaker 1: front of the White House in full US hockey year,
23:48
Speaker 1: has to wear a sign Matt's words, I don't know Puck.
23:51
Speaker 1: USA hockey is number one? Am I correct? And within
23:54
Speaker 1: ninety days of yesterday? So he has eighty nine days
23:57
Speaker 1: and when you're watching this on Tuesday, eighty eight days
24:00
Speaker 1: he has to come on busting with the boys.
24:02
Speaker 2: Are we able to get him to put in parentheses
24:04
Speaker 2: below the uh?
24:05
Speaker 1: What is it?
24:06
Speaker 2: Don't know Puck? Ken doesn't know Puck.
24:09
Speaker 1: I don't know Puck. I don't know Puck. I don't
24:11
Speaker 1: know Puck.
24:11
Speaker 2: Below in parentheses? Could we get and so is bustling
24:14
Speaker 2: with the boys. America is number one?
24:17
Speaker 1: So is bustling? Sure? I mean I can I we'res
24:21
Speaker 1: is no is no.
24:23
Speaker 2: I saw him trying to come after your winnings.
24:25
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was trying to come after those wins.
24:28
Speaker 1: So he came after the winnings. He's like, next, next
24:31
Speaker 1: gamblings like fun, I have to donate to some sort
24:35
Speaker 1: of candy Canadian Hockey League or whatever. And so I
24:38
Speaker 1: was like, all right, if USA wins, you have to
24:42
Speaker 1: donate one hundred thousand dollars to Michigan's and IL fund.
24:45
Speaker 1: And then he's like, let's just do the first two.
24:47
Speaker 1: Let's just keep it fun. Yeah, yeah, let's keep it fun.
24:49
Speaker 2: Yeah.
24:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I was kind of like, yeah, I don't
24:51
Speaker 1: want to do that, but if he wants to, Hey,
24:52
Speaker 1: I've listened to what Tate McCrae on a stream for
24:55
Speaker 1: twenty four hours straight and I took it out. He's like,
24:58
Speaker 1: what happened to Tate McCrae. And I was just honestly
25:00
Speaker 1: was like, dude, twenty four hour stream with two kids
25:03
Speaker 1: and one on the way. I don't I just don't
25:06
Speaker 1: want to do that. Yeah, Like, if if it came
25:08
Speaker 1: down to the worst of it, which it didn't, didn't
25:10
Speaker 1: have to, this would have to I'd have to get
25:13
Speaker 1: rid of this. So once that happened, he's like let's
25:14
Speaker 1: just go back to the original bed. I'm like, all right,
25:16
Speaker 1: all good, Well.
25:16
Speaker 8: The best part of that video is he was like
25:18
Speaker 8: at the end of it, which I didn'tee until last
25:20
Speaker 8: night I was editing, was like, hey.
25:21
Speaker 10: Like Jack Hughes sucks, by the way, like Tate McCrae's
25:24
Speaker 10: like living in his head.
25:25
Speaker 1: He did.
25:26
Speaker 8: And then Jack Hughes gets the golden goal, like dude,
25:29
Speaker 8: Heed f.
25:30
Speaker 1: Off called out, you know Jack saw it? Oh yeah,
25:33
Speaker 1: you know Jack saw that. He his profile last time.
25:37
Speaker 1: You know who he follows Jack, none of us. But
25:40
Speaker 1: it's all good, algorim.
25:42
Speaker 8: He probably rolled over the bad next show Tate the
25:44
Speaker 8: video and was like, I'm gonna score the game winner
25:45
Speaker 8: and did it?
25:47
Speaker 1: What was it? Quin Hughes? Did you see that thing
25:49
Speaker 1: with Queen Hughes? Like went over to his room or
25:52
Speaker 1: texted Jack Hughes and was like you up, He's like, yeah,
25:55
Speaker 1: just dreaming about scoring the game winning the gold gold
25:57
Speaker 1: medal goal. That's so nails. That's so name else, buddy,
26:01
Speaker 1: that's fucking electric. And I don't understand the hate. Like
26:05
Speaker 1: when I'm up in the Great White North, people like
26:08
Speaker 1: the Chuck Brothers, they're not even good like they put
26:10
Speaker 1: up the stats after like Matthew Kuchuck was plus seven
26:13
Speaker 1: and had like what nine assists or something like that
26:16
Speaker 1: in the Olympics.
26:16
Speaker 10: Remember, it's chirped to Connor McDavid. No, but tell me,
26:20
Speaker 10: al wait, what is it?
26:20
Speaker 8: Always the bride's maid, Never the bride, because he's beaten
26:23
Speaker 8: Connor McDavid the past two Stanley Cups and then beat
26:26
Speaker 8: him in the gold medal.
26:27
Speaker 10: Oh my, never the bride.
26:31
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. So this game, this game was incredible.
26:35
Speaker 1: The only thing that I wish was different was right
26:39
Speaker 1: before the Olympics started, or this is when I heard it.
26:42
Speaker 1: You couldn't fight in the Olympics. There was no fighting
26:45
Speaker 1: allowed and I that pissed me off because I wanted
26:48
Speaker 1: a first puck drop. How many fights went off?
26:53
Speaker 10: Three fights in like six minutes.
26:55
Speaker 1: Three fights in the first eighteen seconds.
26:57
Speaker 10: Yeah, they that's crazy, bro.
27:01
Speaker 1: I kind of and you are here entertainment for w W.
27:05
Speaker 1: I kind of mess with it. Oh, I kind of
27:07
Speaker 1: love them. Them booing the national anthem. You gotta tread
27:11
Speaker 1: lightly on that. You gotta trust.
27:13
Speaker 2: Watching the moment, the stage and everything else.
27:15
Speaker 1: Like I want war, like Canada, I want hate. I
27:19
Speaker 1: want ray right, because America won this gold because of
27:22
Speaker 1: the Four Nations. Where where the NHL is right now,
27:28
Speaker 1: it's in the best spot it's ever been in the
27:30
Speaker 1: history of the sport. And it's only because of the
27:32
Speaker 1: United States of America.
27:41
Speaker 2: That's a bar a so a so again, not not
27:45
Speaker 2: in the weeds with all the Canadian stuff.
27:47
Speaker 1: They cheated and curly oh bro, yeah, do you see that?
27:51
Speaker 1: Gonna remind me? So they cheated. The rule is when
27:54
Speaker 1: you let go and it's in the four momentum, you
27:57
Speaker 1: can no longer touch especially the stone. Touched the stone,
28:01
Speaker 1: Buddy touched the stone. That that's an fresh stick, just
28:08
Speaker 1: the tip, just for a second. He gave it a
28:09
Speaker 1: tip moment. I hope she feels good about this tip.
28:12
Speaker 1: Look at that, Look at that. And then he's national
28:16
Speaker 1: television and the Swedish yeah, oh call me out there. Boy.
28:20
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was so crazy because the Swedish guys apparently
28:24
Speaker 9: people were scheming, like, hey, you guys got to make
28:26
Speaker 9: sure there's a camera.
28:27
Speaker 4: They've been doing this all year.
28:29
Speaker 9: And then sure enough he tells me, he goes, oh, yeah,
28:31
Speaker 9: we can watch the film back, Budd, and you'll see
28:33
Speaker 9: what you did.
28:34
Speaker 5: Bud.
28:34
Speaker 9: Butt at him, hit him with the the ran the
28:38
Speaker 9: tape back. But what I'm trying to figure out is
28:40
Speaker 9: we have the tape. Were they allowed to compete and
28:43
Speaker 9: then be able to hold the most faulty gold medal
28:45
Speaker 9: of all time because.
28:46
Speaker 1: They knew what was coming In hockey, you got to
28:48
Speaker 1: give a kid, had.
28:49
Speaker 9: To And then I don't know, if you saw the
28:50
Speaker 9: photoshops of the guy with the poke, its hasn't pokeing
28:53
Speaker 9: McKinnon's uh puck out of the net.
28:56
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that meme is gonna be generational though, Like, yeah,
29:01
Speaker 2: I don't get that either.
29:01
Speaker 1: If we got all the cameras and we got the
29:03
Speaker 1: fridge and.
29:03
Speaker 2: Everything else, how are they getting how are they getting
29:05
Speaker 2: wrapped with the gold medal?
29:07
Speaker 1: Yeah?
29:07
Speaker 6: You know what I mean.
29:08
Speaker 1: I should have been some sort I mean, I don't
29:09
Speaker 1: know if there was a like any sort of discipline
29:11
Speaker 1: and forced, but it definitely is like from what I
29:14
Speaker 1: could see and what chat GBT told me is like
29:17
Speaker 1: that's against the rules.
29:19
Speaker 2: But they don't do any like reviews. I was trying
29:20
Speaker 2: to watch curling for a little bit, but it got
29:22
Speaker 2: a little got a little boring.
29:24
Speaker 1: What is I'm sorry?
29:26
Speaker 2: I was I was always in the watching Yo, the
29:28
Speaker 2: figure skater what's her name, Melissa alyssa.
29:31
Speaker 1: Bro the one that goes what's fucking gone? Yes, dude, Yes,
29:35
Speaker 1: she was bad ass, like.
29:38
Speaker 2: The perfection of her performance, Like we're sitting there watching
29:41
Speaker 2: because charl was super into it. Rue was into it,
29:43
Speaker 2: and I'm watching this shit go and it's like the
29:47
Speaker 2: the confidence. It seemed like she was just fully immersing
29:50
Speaker 2: enjoying her performance, which I thought was like, I don't know,
29:54
Speaker 2: I feel like you you rarely witnessed something like that.
29:56
Speaker 2: Usually people are in there like there's a level of
29:58
Speaker 2: focus and I feel like everybody has even when they're
30:00
Speaker 2: winning and dominating. But she seemed to be having so
30:03
Speaker 2: much joy during that performance where it was like, I
30:05
Speaker 2: don't know it was it was like it was like
30:06
Speaker 2: romantic watching it.
30:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, like floating, like everything seemed efftless. You're basically explaining
30:11
Speaker 1: the last lap of that F one And I agree,
30:13
Speaker 1: undred percent. Great movie, great, great movie, six times so good.
30:19
Speaker 11: Figure skating needs that edge though, that edge factor. I
30:23
Speaker 11: think it's gonna bring a lot more guys like us,
30:25
Speaker 11: like damn, yeah, like let's just dud.
30:27
Speaker 1: Blades of glory showed us that. Yeah, she said, like
30:30
Speaker 1: some swagging about her, like she's fun. She smiling.
30:33
Speaker 11: Retired from the Olympics from figure skating, and then came
30:37
Speaker 11: back for the Olympics, and then she wins two gold
30:39
Speaker 11: medals and Affords are like, you gonna retire game, She's
30:41
Speaker 11: like probably.
30:44
Speaker 10: She's literally just.
30:44
Speaker 4: In it for the love of the game.
30:45
Speaker 1: Love of the game.
30:47
Speaker 10: Go to college.
30:48
Speaker 11: She's like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, just
30:49
Speaker 11: hanging out.
30:50
Speaker 4: Do you know like the fall backstory on her? No, No,
30:53
Speaker 4: it's crazy.
30:55
Speaker 1: She was adopted.
30:57
Speaker 9: No, so yeah, not adopted. Her dad is chying. They
31:01
Speaker 9: grew up in China. Bit he fled the country because
31:04
Speaker 9: he's like fighting for democracy in China, so they kick
31:06
Speaker 9: him out. He's also a psycho dad, and you know,
31:09
Speaker 9: like extremely hard on her all the things horrible miserable childhood,
31:13
Speaker 9: Like she's getting dropped off at ice practice and her
31:15
Speaker 9: coach are saying she's just showing up. Right when she
31:17
Speaker 9: gets dropped off, she's bawling, crying because it's too much,
31:20
Speaker 9: too much pressure, all the stuff. Then she gets really
31:23
Speaker 9: good at skating. China tries to pay the family millions
31:26
Speaker 9: of dollars to come back hey, compete under the Chinese flag.
31:30
Speaker 4: They say no.
31:31
Speaker 9: She competes in the Beijing Olympics, doesn't get a medal,
31:34
Speaker 9: decides to walk away. When she takes his break, she
31:37
Speaker 9: like hikes some of Mount Everest enrolls in like a
31:40
Speaker 9: couple classes at UCLA, and then she was skiing one
31:44
Speaker 9: time and she kind of, I guess got the rush
31:46
Speaker 9: again and was like, man, I think I want to
31:48
Speaker 9: go back to figure skating.
31:49
Speaker 4: But she showed up to her coach.
31:51
Speaker 9: She calls her coaches, and she has like all these
31:52
Speaker 9: different stipulations, like nobody tells me what to eat, Nobody
31:56
Speaker 9: tells me how often I practice, nobody tells me what
31:58
Speaker 9: music I have to skate to. I get to do
32:00
Speaker 9: every single thing by way. And then her way got
32:02
Speaker 9: her the got her the gold.
32:03
Speaker 6: Bad bro which was like twenty months ago.
32:08
Speaker 11: To rehiringting just to climb Mount Everest as an eighteen
32:11
Speaker 11: year old, I mean, fuck you Canada.
32:17
Speaker 1: Clean tank clean a shock Gallagher's pissed right now. Sorry
32:28
Speaker 1: Shock run fun, run fun.
32:30
Speaker 10: You forget The women's seem too dude, and hey.
32:33
Speaker 1: The captain of the women's team, Michael Schofield, Michigan Man
32:36
Speaker 1: played football with him the Mischian back to Michigan. Yeah, yeah,
32:44
Speaker 1: you're talking about women's team. The women The captain of
32:46
Speaker 1: the women's team is married to Michael. Schoolfield said, I'll
32:53
Speaker 1: show you the tape later, but okay.
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Speaker 2: Taylor, it's gonna be the it's gonna be with it.
33:04
Speaker 6: Definitely did not do that.
33:06
Speaker 1: Definitely shut up. I think that, Hang on, hang on,
33:10
Speaker 1: do we need to test this captain?
33:13
Speaker 8: I think the captain is Hillary Night Well Shefield, damn it,
33:25
Speaker 8: all right.
33:25
Speaker 1: I thought everything was going my way in twenty six
33:27
Speaker 1: nasty goal. Yeah, dangled them.
33:30
Speaker 10: Yeah Kellor, I forgot her first name, Morgan.
33:34
Speaker 1: Megan Keller.
33:35
Speaker 2: That's Bob Slid team was kind of a letdown.
33:41
Speaker 1: That's okay.
33:41
Speaker 2: I watch one where they were like seventeenth to start.
33:44
Speaker 4: You watch Shelton.
33:47
Speaker 2: I was like, I was fascinated watching the Bob Slid
33:49
Speaker 2: because as they have the running clock going, they're always
33:51
Speaker 2: shown in the red or green you know what I mean,
33:53
Speaker 2: Like every little checkpoint they have in a back point
33:55
Speaker 2: six seconds behind, and you just get locked in on
33:57
Speaker 2: the times of everything and.
33:59
Speaker 1: You're wondering, like how they They're like trying to explain
34:01
Speaker 1: to you how he gets better, like how you get
34:03
Speaker 1: better in your race?
34:04
Speaker 2: One of the events I got really confused about. Not confused,
34:07
Speaker 2: very self explanatory, but running a mile and skis uphill
34:11
Speaker 2: that one. Yeah, hey, buddy, why don't you just take
34:16
Speaker 2: the skis off and go try to run the mile
34:18
Speaker 2: world recordize?
34:21
Speaker 1: Why don't you just run on flat land and not
34:23
Speaker 1: making it so hard? Was it cross country skiing?
34:25
Speaker 2: I have no clue that it was going viral, and
34:28
Speaker 2: I was like, I mean, yeah, how many people actually
34:30
Speaker 2: go out to do this event?
34:32
Speaker 1: Anyway?
34:32
Speaker 12: I think it's a newer It was like a new
34:34
Speaker 12: event added this year.
34:36
Speaker 1: Uh do we win?
34:38
Speaker 6: No?
34:39
Speaker 1: No, this was like this was a different yet. But
34:41
Speaker 1: he was dumb as hell.
34:45
Speaker 3: It's similar to that where they have to snop or
34:46
Speaker 3: they have to stop and snipe some of those targets
34:50
Speaker 3: bad as to be able to like move six minute
34:55
Speaker 3: mile pace and then stop your heart rate just to
34:57
Speaker 3: hit the target. That's this, yeah, like four times and
35:00
Speaker 3: then you're just like if you.
35:01
Speaker 11: Missed the target too, you have to do another lap around.
35:04
Speaker 11: This tracks your heart rate just spike and then you
35:07
Speaker 11: miss a target a one hundred meters, you just gotta
35:09
Speaker 11: go right around to the track again.
35:11
Speaker 1: Jesus, Oh shit, this.
35:13
Speaker 9: Is like it's like a It was probably the father
35:15
Speaker 9: of a skier that like wasn't that good. He wanted
35:17
Speaker 9: his kid to be an Olympians so bad and this
35:19
Speaker 9: was his punishment, and somebody saw it and was like,
35:21
Speaker 9: we're gonna turn that into an event, right, it sounds
35:23
Speaker 9: like torture?
35:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, dude, you know what's number one in the world.
35:27
Speaker 2: He's been number one for the last five years? Like, yeah,
35:28
Speaker 2: who else does the sport?
35:31
Speaker 1: You know what's a crazy? The the the just the
35:33
Speaker 1: sking like X game stuff they do, but it's gone.
35:36
Speaker 1: They've gotten all so good. I have no idea what's
35:39
Speaker 1: good anymore? You see him, dude, Like.
35:42
Speaker 4: Clean snowboard halfpipe is crazy.
35:44
Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's like they're doing like back to back
35:46
Speaker 1: nine hundreds, eight and whatever.
35:48
Speaker 11: It me two hundreds on the super pipe.
35:50
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I'm like, that's amazing, But like, how
35:52
Speaker 1: are we greeting this now, because it seems like everyone
35:55
Speaker 1: just rips.
35:55
Speaker 12: There was a trick that had never been done before,
35:58
Speaker 12: never landed, Like it's been attempted but had never been
36:00
Speaker 12: landed before. I think a US guy did it and
36:04
Speaker 12: landed it and like it's unprecedent, never, never been done before.
36:08
Speaker 12: And one of the judges was like Norwegian, and there
36:12
Speaker 12: was a Norway guy he was already in first. That
36:14
Speaker 12: Norwegian judge scored the US guy lower than the Norwegian guy,
36:20
Speaker 12: so like like.
36:21
Speaker 1: Oh, tom foolery is taking place. Got a silver. Damn
36:26
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But dude, watching them like spin and flip
36:29
Speaker 1: and then it's like, how do you even how do
36:32
Speaker 1: you even look at that and go nine? You know, Yeah,
36:37
Speaker 1: it's just nuts. How many more events are there?
36:39
Speaker 6: Dude?
36:40
Speaker 1: The men's yeah, I think closing ceremony was yesterday, right,
36:44
Speaker 1: which great time to do it. Yeah, what away the
36:47
Speaker 1: U We had the men's figure skater, the guy who's
36:50
Speaker 1: like the best in the world, but he just kind
36:51
Speaker 1: of fell apart at the Alia. Yeah, he did like
36:55
Speaker 1: the first seven back to back quad axles or whatever.
36:58
Speaker 1: It was like he's like the man he fell apart
37:01
Speaker 1: and lost, but he I'll tell you what he did
37:03
Speaker 1: do is lose with grace. Like the way he handled
37:06
Speaker 1: that l was so American.
37:12
Speaker 13: We won gold for the team event, which is sick
37:15
Speaker 13: that he was a part of.
37:17
Speaker 10: Broke my heart.
37:18
Speaker 13: Dude, the way that he just spilled out like, yeah, dude,
37:23
Speaker 13: but he did lose with Grace. There's something to be said.
37:25
Speaker 9: The conspiracy to that that end of the rink had
37:29
Speaker 9: some faulty things going on.
37:30
Speaker 4: You're that's what I heard.
37:36
Speaker 1: So people tried to cheat America maybe, which I could see.
37:41
Speaker 1: I could see.
37:41
Speaker 4: That, Yes, But did it affect him the most? Yes,
37:49
Speaker 4: both to be true, both can be true.
37:50
Speaker 1: To be true. Feel the question, how do we feel
37:53
Speaker 1: about Russia not competing in the Olympics cheat him back in?
38:00
Speaker 1: So what happened with Russia? What's I think it's the
38:02
Speaker 1: Russia Ukraine thing.
38:04
Speaker 2: Yeah, compete in the Olympics every day of the war.
38:09
Speaker 1: Every day is an award JP, You're correct, And for me.
38:13
Speaker 9: The doping thing you get kicked out the war side
38:16
Speaker 9: of things. It's the same thing in tennis where they
38:19
Speaker 9: you know, like they drop the flag of all the
38:21
Speaker 9: Russian players, but they're still out there competing. Yeah, And
38:24
Speaker 9: it's kind of like the players are outspoken like, hey,
38:27
Speaker 9: we don't want this war to be going on, like
38:29
Speaker 9: we don't want people to be dying. And I feel
38:32
Speaker 9: like if the doping thing is true, or it is true,
38:34
Speaker 9: then you get suspended. But if it's only the war stuff,
38:37
Speaker 9: it's like, I think you gotta let those people compete.
38:42
Speaker 9: I think removing the flag is kind of dumb anyways,
38:44
Speaker 9: because like, right, but it's like everybody knows where you're
38:47
Speaker 9: from the Republican.
38:49
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's that feels like that's getting the
38:52
Speaker 1: weeds that we don't know a whole lot about. But
38:54
Speaker 1: it would just be awesome to see the Russians compete because, yeah,
39:00
Speaker 1: team would have been stacked. They would have definitely got bronze, right,
39:06
Speaker 1: they would have definitely meddled. How would they would their
39:09
Speaker 1: hockey team have been? They would have been, they would
39:11
Speaker 1: have been.
39:11
Speaker 10: They would have been nasty.
39:13
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's aw it's the Russians, the Canadians, Finland too, dude,
39:18
Speaker 1: Like Finland barely got away with losing. They lost to
39:21
Speaker 1: Canada overtime, and everyone like even when I was up
39:25
Speaker 1: up north, like there's a couple of guys who are
39:26
Speaker 1: like Finland can beat us, Like that's how good they are.
39:29
Speaker 10: Finland has won the World Juniors.
39:31
Speaker 1: Isn't the goalie for the Preds, isn't he? Yeah, sorrows
39:36
Speaker 1: he was the goalie. The hell of a game was.
39:40
Speaker 11: Thirteen in that game, because.
39:43
Speaker 1: That's exactly what he had. Like the game that we watched,
39:46
Speaker 1: this gold medal game is kind of a similar game
39:49
Speaker 1: that we saw in Finland and Finland and Canada, except
39:51
Speaker 1: for sorrows just happened to let one through and overtime clean.
39:57
Speaker 1: It was. It was that close and someone, you know,
40:00
Speaker 1: I think Cody the exposed. He's like, hey, hopefully you
40:03
Speaker 1: make it. When they beat Finland and we dusted some
40:06
Speaker 1: team I can't pronounce for like six to two just
40:09
Speaker 1: killed Slovakia powered by Kevin's Central Food, powered by Kevin's
40:12
Speaker 1: You get your protein, Gotta get.
40:16
Speaker 6: It, dude.
40:17
Speaker 1: Yeah, Olympic. I see what's highlight right now? What you know?
40:26
Speaker 6: You can't say that?
40:27
Speaker 1: Oh, I didn't know until I was saying it. I
40:29
Speaker 1: didn't know until I was saying that's fair, that's fair,
40:31
Speaker 1: that's fair. Sometimes you don't know what you're saying till
40:35
Speaker 1: you're saying it. That's a clean tak just dropped the
40:37
Speaker 1: volume when I say that. Yeah, so what we still
40:40
Speaker 1: get that? I can't gotta be better about that. What
40:48
Speaker 1: else are we missing? America is the best.
40:52
Speaker 4: Share clean take unrelated to the Olympics.
40:54
Speaker 9: I'd like to give this this clean take to Punch
40:58
Speaker 9: the monkey.
40:59
Speaker 4: Punch the Monkey.
41:00
Speaker 9: He finally got the hug that he deserved his entire life,
41:04
Speaker 9: and he had to go through some of the hardest
41:06
Speaker 9: trials and tribulations to get that hug. But to see
41:09
Speaker 9: Punch the Monkey be embraced by the other monkey community
41:13
Speaker 9: was truly heartwarming, and I just want to I wish
41:15
Speaker 9: we knew the name of that monkey that gave Punch
41:17
Speaker 9: his hug.
41:18
Speaker 1: Man Clean Tank. I don't even know about Punch the Monkey,
41:21
Speaker 1: but Clean.
41:21
Speaker 4: You know, Punch the Monkey.
41:22
Speaker 2: He's just the little monkey. I was getting tossed around
41:24
Speaker 2: and went hugged the little stuff down.
41:27
Speaker 4: I got accepted.
41:28
Speaker 1: I'm almost happy I didn't see it. Yeah, you don't
41:30
Speaker 1: want to see it.
41:31
Speaker 4: Punch Monkey, like he keeps going, he keeps showing up.
41:34
Speaker 1: Oh he does. Yeah, he's a grinder.
41:36
Speaker 2: He's from the mud, similar to that penguin that was
41:38
Speaker 2: doing his thing.
41:39
Speaker 1: I know about that penguin now.
41:41
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was.
41:41
Speaker 11: Kicked out of his family as a young kid, and
41:43
Speaker 11: he uses a stuffed animal monkey as his like partner.
41:46
Speaker 1: And he's in the zoo.
41:47
Speaker 11: None of the monkeys wanting him around. They're pushing him around.
41:51
Speaker 11: But dude, like JP said, he grinded, he kept going.
41:53
Speaker 11: He's he's pushing the rock every day up the hill.
41:56
Speaker 1: So the story ends good for pushing the monkey.
41:58
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I've also read that when Harambe was murdered
42:02
Speaker 9: almost ten years ago, that sent us into ten years
42:05
Speaker 9: of despair punched a monkey. Surviving and getting this hug
42:08
Speaker 9: and winning with love has now given us ten years
42:11
Speaker 9: of fortune.
42:12
Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, what happened to the penguin? Is he he still?
42:23
Speaker 4: Is he around?
42:24
Speaker 1: The guy who's speaking over the screen said, certain death.
42:28
Speaker 4: That depends on how you heard it.
42:31
Speaker 9: Okay, maybe maybe it was the old hymn that was dying.
42:38
Speaker 1: With that. JP came out of the vacation flowing right now. Yeah,
42:44
Speaker 1: see how was vacation Canada? It was awesome, dude, I really,
42:48
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. Every time I go up there, it's awesome.
42:50
Speaker 1: We went to a place called Big Big White. It's
42:53
Speaker 1: like forty five it's like an hour away and it's
42:56
Speaker 1: like a little ski resort resort. And the kids went,
42:58
Speaker 1: what Big Big White Its ski mountain, Ski mountain, And dude,
43:05
Speaker 1: it's like, have you ever you've seen the movie Out Cold?
43:09
Speaker 6: Yeah? Nope.
43:11
Speaker 1: Gee, you've seen the movie out Cold Cold, Out Cold.
43:15
Speaker 1: Zach Alfanakis puts Penis in a jacuzzis. It's a snowboarding movie.
43:20
Speaker 1: Guy comes in, tries to buy up the whole town.
43:23
Speaker 1: You guys have not seen out Cold. Okay, watch the
43:27
Speaker 1: movie out Cold, and when you watch the movie, just
43:29
Speaker 1: never heard of it. You've never seen out Cold?
43:32
Speaker 4: He gets does somebody get sound off in the comments?
43:34
Speaker 13: Huh?
43:35
Speaker 4: Did somebody get stuck on.
43:36
Speaker 1: A yes or no? It will feral. They will. Basically,
43:42
Speaker 1: these snowboarders and these skiers or the snowboarders take down
43:46
Speaker 1: the skiers who takes down this like billionaire guy who's
43:48
Speaker 1: trying to buy up the whole place and monopolize the
43:50
Speaker 1: town into like a tourist town when really they're just
43:53
Speaker 1: trying to keep keep it all local. But there's anyone's Yellowstone. Okay, yeah,
43:58
Speaker 1: yellow This is okay, Yellowstone. So this this the big
44:02
Speaker 1: white place we were at. It's like people ski into town,
44:06
Speaker 1: like you're on this mountain and then you ski into
44:08
Speaker 1: like restaurants and the lodge and these bars, and there's
44:12
Speaker 1: one called like it's like Snowman Sam or something like that.
44:16
Speaker 1: And apparently like the place just gets super rowdy at
44:19
Speaker 1: night and people are just like falling all over the
44:20
Speaker 1: snow and stuff like that. It was it was awesome.
44:23
Speaker 1: And then watching these skiers kind of rip by, I'm
44:25
Speaker 1: like this, shit, did you go skiing? Hell no? Shop
44:30
Speaker 1: yeah no no no no no no. I found my
44:33
Speaker 1: new hobby and it's ice skating. I I loved it
44:36
Speaker 1: when I went ice skating, but just being out there
44:37
Speaker 1: and seeing how Like, dude, when I grew up, every
44:41
Speaker 1: winter my friends would go to like Flagstaff or all
44:44
Speaker 1: during all these places I've said this, and they come
44:46
Speaker 1: back in like boots or slings or a cast that
44:49
Speaker 1: looks fucking terrible. And then being done with football, It's
44:51
Speaker 1: like I've already got enough bumps and bruises from the
44:54
Speaker 1: game of football. Why like add to this in my
44:57
Speaker 1: older age, you could do like the small slopes. I
44:59
Speaker 1: ain't trying to small stock. I want to see that.
45:01
Speaker 1: If the kiddos are getting ski lessons and ski yeah, dude,
45:04
Speaker 1: you just you send the kids off with an instructor,
45:07
Speaker 1: see you in three hours and you hang out chilling,
45:10
Speaker 1: have a little coffee. Yeah yeah, dude, snow too, tubing
45:15
Speaker 1: talking about tubing. We missed tubing. We missed too. You
45:18
Speaker 1: know why we put it? We had a Katan marathon
45:21
Speaker 1: me Quinn and Taylor. We played like four hours of Kanan.
45:24
Speaker 1: You was moving around in the ice skates, No, you
45:25
Speaker 1: see that? Since eight years old? Since eight years old.
45:28
Speaker 1: And I remember we rented the skates, the skates. I
45:31
Speaker 1: got Quinn's like, you better not post any videos. People
45:34
Speaker 1: are gonna kill you for those skates. I'm like, that's
45:36
Speaker 1: even better reason to post a video. I get to
45:38
Speaker 1: the edge.
45:39
Speaker 10: What my fall for posting the video?
45:41
Speaker 1: No skates? No, no, no, I'm about it. I get
45:44
Speaker 1: to the edge of like the snow where like the
45:46
Speaker 1: rubber is, and you're about to walk onto the ice,
45:48
Speaker 1: and I'm legitimately terrified, like I'm going to eat shit
45:51
Speaker 1: on this ice. So I call Quinn over. He like
45:54
Speaker 1: gives me the arm like a dad, like a father,
45:56
Speaker 1: and I grab his arm and hold on to him
45:58
Speaker 1: for a little bit, and I started skating around, like
46:00
Speaker 1: this is so much fun, like riding a bike. It's
46:02
Speaker 1: like riding a bike, but not really but not really. Yeah, well,
46:06
Speaker 1: like look at you skating around Like that's that's kind.
46:08
Speaker 1: And I went through Quinn's legs right there too. People
46:10
Speaker 1: look at this boom that's between his legs.
46:13
Speaker 2: Like, you picked that up very easy since I'm doing
46:15
Speaker 2: the crossover. Y, that's nothing, that's nothing.
46:20
Speaker 1: He can't make that shot, but I did. I did
46:24
Speaker 1: make that shot. And then I don't know if this
46:26
Speaker 1: is in the video as well, but I kind of
46:27
Speaker 1: hit the top bar out. Yeah, I hit the top
46:31
Speaker 1: bar on the mini goal, and like Quinn was like, hey,
46:33
Speaker 1: that's actually kind of nice.
46:36
Speaker 10: Why don'd you come to play little beer league?
46:37
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm kind of into the idea skating leaguer too,
46:42
Speaker 1: so we could get the family out. Two days after
46:45
Speaker 1: I made this video, I went and bought my own
46:46
Speaker 1: half skates now and I am legitimately down to learn
46:50
Speaker 1: how to play hockey.
46:51
Speaker 10: I think that would be hilarious if I, like, you, bro,
46:54
Speaker 10: look at that.
46:55
Speaker 1: Look at that. That's one handed. That's one handed.
46:59
Speaker 10: We're in the playof we need you.
47:01
Speaker 1: You don't need When does the next league start?
47:05
Speaker 10: March? Like it's like year round, Like it's so.
47:09
Speaker 2: I need to I need like a six month season
47:13
Speaker 2: next year or next year?
47:14
Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean you can we have a summer league
47:15
Speaker 10: and you know.
47:16
Speaker 1: What's so weird to me? And this is this is
47:17
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a very dumb comment. But hobbies
47:20
Speaker 1: kind of rip. It's ridiculous, really cool, but like there's
47:26
Speaker 1: more to life than just work and hang out with
47:27
Speaker 1: your kids. My kids got skates, we're gonna rip. Hobbies
47:32
Speaker 1: are fun. Hobbies are fun. Hobbies are fun. I'm gonna
47:34
Speaker 1: skate now, dude.
47:34
Speaker 10: It's an escape at a ten thirty at night hockey games.
47:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, night, it's a little too late for me.
47:40
Speaker 1: Do we have like a seven pm or.
47:42
Speaker 8: Yeah, well, usually a prime time We kind of got
47:44
Speaker 8: screwed last night with a nine pm puck drop.
47:45
Speaker 1: But here's here's my goal.
47:47
Speaker 10: Arrests sucked too. It was like, this is a nine
47:49
Speaker 10: pm crew.
47:51
Speaker 1: Fuck them. Here's my goal. I would like to have
47:56
Speaker 1: a try for the Predators one year from now. I
47:59
Speaker 1: like to try for the Predators. Just go and skate
48:02
Speaker 1: with the boys at bridge down at bridgetone. That's what
48:04
Speaker 1: I would like to do. The tryouts every year. I would.
48:09
Speaker 6: They need to smoke Roman.
48:11
Speaker 1: He wouldn't stand a chance, right, he's old, gold medal,
48:15
Speaker 1: gold medal Romano, Philip Forsburg. Yeah, older than him, I
48:21
Speaker 1: think so yeah, no, no, definitely how old? How old
48:25
Speaker 1: is Romano?
48:27
Speaker 8: He's like thirty thirty two, thirty or thirty four.
48:31
Speaker 1: But I've talked to I've talked to one of the
48:33
Speaker 1: guys from the Predators, Refort, and he's like, if you
48:35
Speaker 1: ever get on skates, it'd be hilarious for us to
48:37
Speaker 1: go out there and do some content with them. And
48:38
Speaker 1: now that I've gotten on skates, I'm like, we should
48:40
Speaker 1: actually try to make the team. Yeah, he's thirty five,
48:44
Speaker 1: is way older than me. Ug out there.
48:48
Speaker 10: He's friends with George Kittle, friend of the show.
48:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, might be nice. You'd be nice of being a goalie,
48:53
Speaker 1: get you out there, goalie. Goalies are weird.
48:55
Speaker 2: Though, just stretching on every time out, taking a simple
48:58
Speaker 2: water Yeah, pull the thing.
49:03
Speaker 3: Honestly, goalies like warm up at the beginning of a
49:06
Speaker 3: game is one of the best.
49:08
Speaker 1: Hard and they're back and forth.
49:10
Speaker 2: Ye, dude, discuss Would I would like Yes, I would
49:16
Speaker 2: legitimately like to try to sharpen these skills and just
49:19
Speaker 2: go out and play with them one day.
49:21
Speaker 1: Maybe there's like the preseason, I can go play a
49:22
Speaker 1: preseason game with them maybe or find.
49:25
Speaker 11: Out or are you challenging the Natural Predators to a
49:29
Speaker 11: game busting versus the Predators.
49:33
Speaker 1: Game full suit.
49:36
Speaker 2: We'll be next to each other, holding each other up.
49:38
Speaker 2: You got the bucket?
49:39
Speaker 1: It should we should we challenge the Predators three on three?
49:44
Speaker 1: Do it right now? Should we look back? We're we're
49:50
Speaker 1: bust with the boys is officially challenging the Nashville Predators
49:52
Speaker 1: in a three on three exhibition game for fun. We'll
49:56
Speaker 1: do it for charity. We'll do it for charity. Will
49:59
Speaker 1: play only I play whatever. It'd be nice with the stick.
50:02
Speaker 1: We just we don't know. I haven't really. We got
50:05
Speaker 1: to get out there, dude.
50:07
Speaker 4: We need one more body.
50:08
Speaker 1: Okay, we'll go four be four four B four. Should
50:12
Speaker 1: we take one of their guys? We should have an
50:17
Speaker 1: extra three four yeah, I V three Yeah. They gotta
50:20
Speaker 1: hit a triangle on us, dude, See we can't get
50:22
Speaker 1: through all right? Five three us? First? Is it you mean?
50:28
Speaker 6: You mean?
50:28
Speaker 1: Matt? Who's our Who's our fourth game?
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Speaker 10: I played in high school?
50:31
Speaker 1: Did you really?
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Speaker 11: I picked up hockey halfway through my junior year of
50:34
Speaker 11: high school just because hobbies. I was like, I want
50:36
Speaker 11: to see if I can do this. And then our
50:38
Speaker 11: first game we played our rival and I missed basically
50:42
Speaker 11: a goal similar to Canada, and everyone was ready to
50:45
Speaker 11: dead fish on the ice.
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Speaker 1: It's one of the biggest mistakes in my life. But
50:49
Speaker 1: I would like some redemption. So I got a whole back.
50:52
Speaker 1: I still got my whole gear set up. You still
50:55
Speaker 1: got skates, Yeah, X sixties man, dude, we need so
50:58
Speaker 1: the three of us. You need to be a part
51:00
Speaker 1: of you. We gotta go skate. Will definitely the goalie,
51:05
Speaker 1: right and boys get the reaction time exactly. Yeah, yeah, hey,
51:09
Speaker 1: you guys, this is just some war between me and Will.
51:13
Speaker 1: This is but this is a bust of lord between
51:16
Speaker 1: me and Will. Will Is. He's really good side to side.
51:18
Speaker 1: He's gonna change the direction. That's that's what.
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Speaker 2: I'm good inside the box. Yeah, you give me from
51:23
Speaker 2: gap to b gap.
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Speaker 1: I'm nice, nice at the rank.
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Speaker 10: We'll just we'll rent out a little sheet of ice
51:28
Speaker 10: for an hour and just practice hour.
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Speaker 1: What three times a week, three times a week, three
51:32
Speaker 1: times a week.
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Speaker 10: I'll get you guys, three times a week.
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Speaker 1: Oh, we gotta we gotta practice going just going back.
51:38
Speaker 10: We gotta skate.
51:39
Speaker 1: We gotta skate if we're gonna.
51:40
Speaker 10: If we're gonna play the prets.
51:42
Speaker 1: I mean, let's exhibition game. Yeah for charity, Garrett one
51:48
Speaker 1: fight per period. Half to have to fight once periods.
51:53
Speaker 10: Yeah, that's you, that's I'm not a.
51:58
Speaker 1: Knocked out. You know they're gonna do is gonna go
52:01
Speaker 1: just fall back?
52:03
Speaker 10: Yeah, full pads, full pads.
52:05
Speaker 1: I might have to go full happy. Gilmore just took
52:07
Speaker 1: my skate off. Try to get them. Yeah, ship a
52:10
Speaker 1: couple of guys wonder.
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Speaker 9: Like, there's no way that five people that never played
52:16
Speaker 9: hockey could beat one h one NHL player in one
52:19
Speaker 9: NHL goalie.
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Speaker 1: Oh, we could for sure beat them. I don't absolutely Yeah,
52:33
Speaker 1: flying around, I'm gonna trip the ship out of them. Dude, alright,
52:36
Speaker 1: one day I got wingspan, I will take their legs out.
52:39
Speaker 10: We'll just get your like you're like six feet tall. Yeah,
52:43
Speaker 10: just sit in front of the net and get.
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Speaker 8: Tips six seven Yeah I don't want to say six seven,
52:47
Speaker 8: but yeah, front the net.
52:48
Speaker 1: Like who they got.
52:49
Speaker 10: Philip Forsburg never heard of like six signs sorrows.
52:52
Speaker 1: He's all right, Stamcoast stamping the old stam Coast is old.
52:56
Speaker 10: He's on he's on a heater. Though he's on a heater.
52:59
Speaker 1: That's okay, five one couldn't be possible. All these photos, right, sure,
53:07
Speaker 1: I look at all these photos. Handsome Roman.
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Speaker 10: He's a hot guy.
53:16
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean Roman Romans top five looking
53:21
Speaker 1: dudes out there.
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Speaker 6: N come down.
53:24
Speaker 1: Let's calming downs, coming down. Hey, let me put my
53:27
Speaker 1: eyes on Forestburg.
53:29
Speaker 10: All the friends are just like hot guys.
53:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. The bucket doesn't do anything. Oh dude, we
53:34
Speaker 1: gotta get you.
53:36
Speaker 4: Up full pads.
53:37
Speaker 10: Busting hockey jerseys.
53:38
Speaker 1: Joepah helmets, dude, old school Russian helmets. No visor, No,
53:42
Speaker 1: I'm going dark visor, tint advisor.
53:44
Speaker 10: I have a crown a visor if you want.
53:46
Speaker 1: To, I want t advisors. The USA hockey jersey.
53:50
Speaker 11: No, if there's anyone out there listening to USA hockey jerseys,
53:54
Speaker 11: please tap in.
53:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, by the friends and well may bust in jerseys, sweaters,
54:02
Speaker 1: whatever they're called. Get the cool lace in it. Yeah yeah,
54:05
Speaker 1: we'll all be number sixty nine on a New Shores
54:10
Speaker 1: season two. I know this is the last one. Dude,
54:15
Speaker 1: that'd be fun to shoresy that that crew they do
54:17
Speaker 1: like a charity hockey game too. We'll take them down
54:20
Speaker 1: after we take the preads down. But right now, we
54:22
Speaker 1: got to take the preads down.
54:24
Speaker 10: We have like a tournament.
54:26
Speaker 1: Well, we can't do a tournament because.
54:27
Speaker 13: Well, isn't isn't there Like an NHL All Star celebrity
54:35
Speaker 13: game though that like Taylor, you like, if you worked.
54:38
Speaker 10: Up your skills.
54:40
Speaker 13: Yeah, Beaver's in it. You could play in that.
54:42
Speaker 1: Represent America. Check the ship out of Beaber, Dude, you.
54:46
Speaker 10: Could play in that.
54:49
Speaker 13: He's quick, Baber's clean.
54:52
Speaker 1: I bet he's nice.
54:53
Speaker 2: He's a canadianship.
54:58
Speaker 1: Yeah. But Austin Matthews. You know where he grew up,
55:01
Speaker 1: Scott Stale. So Scott Stone is kind of the mecca
55:05
Speaker 1: of hockey right now. Yeah, got to Toronto, Maple leafs captain.
55:14
Speaker 2: All right, we got uh, we got Pete Willis coming up.
55:16
Speaker 2: What's the rose sparks? We got a rose spicy tear talk.
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Speaker 1: Will hitting the mitch on us right now.
55:21
Speaker 2: I'm just saying where we've been, we've been rocket We've
55:23
Speaker 2: been rocking. You gotta rose Spicy tear Talk brought to
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Speaker 2: Spy Roe the Boner Pills.
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Speaker 1: Best household chores to do to earn Brownie points with
55:35
Speaker 1: your wife, with your wife, with your wife or partner
55:38
Speaker 1: or partner, best household yours. I'm thinking dishes rip like
55:42
Speaker 1: the whole you cook, I clean type of thing. Like
55:44
Speaker 1: everyone's belly, everyone's bellies are full. You say, hey, go
55:48
Speaker 1: in and sit down and relax, digest a little bit.
55:50
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick up these plates. Yeah, handle business.
55:52
Speaker 2: How about how about all the household chores?
55:54
Speaker 1: Mammy?
55:55
Speaker 2: You you go out of town. I've been rocking solo
55:57
Speaker 2: with the two kiddos.
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Speaker 1: On Saturday.
55:58
Speaker 2: Charles flight got canceled because of snowstorm out in New York.
56:01
Speaker 2: So I'm rocking with them. I'm going until she gets
56:04
Speaker 2: in tomorrow. But maybe just you do all the household
56:07
Speaker 2: chores and Mama can leave town.
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Speaker 1: You'll take care of the entire So we got dishes
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Speaker 1: and all of them, all of them. Got to feed them,
56:16
Speaker 1: got it? You gotta put them to bed. Yeah, I
56:18
Speaker 1: think number got the foods, order the foods.
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Speaker 9: Number one w household choor you can do for your
56:24
Speaker 9: wife is if they're out or do whatever. And they
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Speaker 9: had already started their laundry and say it's already in
56:29
Speaker 9: the dryer and you have close folded before their back.
56:32
Speaker 1: That's a good one. That's a good one. Gonna be
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Speaker 1: married forever. That's just kids dialed off the top like
56:40
Speaker 1: that my fro.
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Speaker 13: The hip mind that I love to do back in
56:43
Speaker 13: Texas during the summer months is you put a long
56:46
Speaker 13: sleeve shirt on when it's hot so that you are
56:49
Speaker 13: covered in sweat. Do a little bit of yard work.
56:52
Speaker 13: Lift the mower, Tilt the mower a little bit when
56:55
Speaker 13: you go over some tall grass, so you just spray
56:57
Speaker 13: your legs with a bunch of that grass. Dude, and
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Speaker 13: time it out to when she's coming home. You're out
57:03
Speaker 13: there and you just do the hat off. You do
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Speaker 13: one of those, dude.
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Speaker 1: Just yo, that's an American movie. Chances are getting a
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Speaker 10: You you will need some roast sparks, just like yeah,
57:15
Speaker 10: let me say that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you will needs Or when mama's just out, maybe
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Speaker 2: she's at dinner, she's just out of the house. She
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Speaker 2: comes back to a decluttered house. Pick up her in
57:25
Speaker 2: the living room, clean up the kitchen, get everything nice,
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Speaker 2: spick and Spanish. She walks in, Oh my god, did
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Speaker 2: you do this?
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Speaker 6: I did?
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Speaker 1: Daddy did that?
57:33
Speaker 6: He did?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's this on the counter. It's as sparks? Why
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Speaker 1: is it empty? It's in my system?
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Speaker 4: Baby didn't clean the counter. Oh no, that's meant to
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's his saying, Rose Sparks. How long has it
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Speaker 1: Delany a call ten minutes before the show started. Yeah,
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: okay because we were just talking? Yeah? Patrick, Well, the
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Speaker 1: first off, five time All Pro I mean before talking
1:00:12
Speaker 1: about a Hall of Famer, here one of the goats,
1:00:14
Speaker 1: one of the goats, the linebackers of all time.
1:00:16
Speaker 2: Bro, look at the the awards and the accoladeses this man.
1:00:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, you have to scroll to see all the awards.
1:00:21
Speaker 2: Anybody who's a backer, a defensive player, or a football lover,
1:00:24
Speaker 2: you know who Patrick Willis is. But for the people
1:00:26
Speaker 2: who don't that might be tuning in NFL Defensive Rookie
1:00:30
Speaker 2: in the Year and OH seven five time first Team
1:00:32
Speaker 2: All Pro, second team All Pro one he got that.
1:00:35
Speaker 12: No.
1:00:35
Speaker 2: Way seven time Pro bowler, two time NFL Solo tackles leader,
1:00:39
Speaker 2: two time NFL Combined tackles leader, NFL twenty ten's All
1:00:43
Speaker 2: Decade Team Buckets Award winner O nine All Rookie Team
1:00:47
Speaker 2: and O seven San Francisco forty nine Ers Hall of
1:00:49
Speaker 2: Fame Buckets Award winner in college Jack Lambert Trophy O
1:00:52
Speaker 2: six SEC Defensive Player of the Year and O six
1:00:55
Speaker 2: Consensus All American and O six First Team All American
1:00:58
Speaker 2: and O five two time First Team All ACC and.
1:01:01
Speaker 1: O five and six acc or sec sec SEC. Let's
1:01:06
Speaker 1: give it up for Patrick Patrick.
1:01:10
Speaker 6: I appreciate it.
1:01:11
Speaker 1: I appreciate it if you if your team's like, hey,
1:01:13
Speaker 1: you only have ten minutes of Patrick was like literally
1:01:15
Speaker 1: the intro, It's just like seven of those ten minutes.
1:01:19
Speaker 2: When you get sad. Do you ever just get on
1:01:20
Speaker 2: your Wikipedia page? You just look at the achievements and accolades.
1:01:23
Speaker 6: Nah, don't, man.
1:01:24
Speaker 14: I truthfully, it's only moments like this for here where
1:01:27
Speaker 14: you know I really.
1:01:29
Speaker 6: Even pay any attention or just hear much about it.
1:01:32
Speaker 14: It wasn't because I don't really go and look myself
1:01:35
Speaker 14: up or look at the look at this dash, But
1:01:37
Speaker 14: moments like this, listening to it, I'm like, Wow, that
1:01:40
Speaker 14: was some work put in.
1:01:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're put in And any of those like were
1:01:44
Speaker 1: you a cat that ever had let doubt creep in?
1:01:46
Speaker 1: Or what was the thing that kind of was the
1:01:48
Speaker 1: biggest warrior for you when you were playing? Was it
1:01:51
Speaker 1: like getting ready for the game. Was it the worry
1:01:54
Speaker 1: of like an imposter syndrome because it seems like there's
1:01:57
Speaker 1: no there was no hesitation anywhere.
1:01:59
Speaker 14: Well, I would say, man, the fear of failure, the
1:02:07
Speaker 14: fear of just not making it out, wanting more for yourself,
1:02:15
Speaker 14: and so I feel like every every opportunity was a
1:02:19
Speaker 14: chance to prove that I belong and that you know,
1:02:23
Speaker 14: I could, I could do it, do that which I
1:02:26
Speaker 14: set my mind out to do.
1:02:28
Speaker 2: You talk about the fear of failure and fear of
1:02:30
Speaker 2: making out. We will get into all that because your
1:02:32
Speaker 2: story is insane. Like when you were you were in
1:02:35
Speaker 2: college and what three to six, So I'm in high school,
1:02:38
Speaker 2: So I'm sitting here learning about Patrick Willison College, like
1:02:41
Speaker 2: you were like a north star for every linebacker that
1:02:44
Speaker 2: generation before we get into it, like, what's got your superic?
1:02:47
Speaker 2: So you got go bowling on NFL Alumni. What kind
1:02:50
Speaker 2: of work are you doing out here?
1:02:51
Speaker 14: Yeah, so I'm excited to be an ambassador of Go Bowling.
1:02:55
Speaker 6: We are here. What's going down tomorrow at Lucky Strikes.
1:02:59
Speaker 14: It'll be myself, uh, Tom Raffman Peterson, Shan Alexander, Jason C. Horne,
1:03:07
Speaker 14: and we'll be partnered up with attendees uh and attendance
1:03:11
Speaker 14: and we'll just be competing.
1:03:13
Speaker 6: But it's all for a great cause.
1:03:14
Speaker 14: You know, all the proceeds will go back to the
1:03:16
Speaker 14: NFL Alumni Association and the former players, which being foreign players.
1:03:21
Speaker 6: You know that. Like, man, we all.
1:03:23
Speaker 14: At some point in time where some more than others,
1:03:26
Speaker 14: you know, needos heaping hands. So it's a great cause
1:03:29
Speaker 14: to be here. And also, man, Go Boling is giving
1:03:33
Speaker 14: out a free game of bowling on behalf of Super
1:03:36
Speaker 14: Bowl sixty. And so if you go to go bowling
1:03:39
Speaker 14: dot com, sign up, download the app and you can
1:03:42
Speaker 14: get you a free game of bowling. But yeah, just
1:03:45
Speaker 14: here doing this and man, just enjoying the week.
1:03:49
Speaker 2: So all people gotta do is go to go bowling
1:03:51
Speaker 2: dot com, Go bowling dot com, downloaded app and you
1:03:54
Speaker 2: get a free game of bowling.
1:03:55
Speaker 6: Downloaded app. Registered, yeah, registered email.
1:04:02
Speaker 1: For a couple of months.
1:04:04
Speaker 2: Finance financial exchange. But just put in your email.
1:04:08
Speaker 1: It's free, right, it's free to sign up, free to
1:04:11
Speaker 1: sign up. You're suiting the back because the best dressed
1:04:15
Speaker 1: hit me with that. It's free anybody else.
1:04:18
Speaker 2: Something we might have to do too, is like we
1:04:20
Speaker 2: might just have to let the cat out the bag
1:04:21
Speaker 2: that will that Patrick Wills is going to be on
1:04:24
Speaker 2: and so that way we can get the clip out
1:04:25
Speaker 2: there to let people know when he says tomorrow, they
1:04:28
Speaker 2: know it's actually tomorrow.
1:04:29
Speaker 1: So I listen.
1:04:30
Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks we forgot the free bowling.
1:04:36
Speaker 1: That's good, definitely to get that out there at the
1:04:42
Speaker 1: end of the month.
1:04:43
Speaker 2: Free bowling goes through the end of the month, the
1:04:45
Speaker 2: end of February.
1:04:46
Speaker 1: All right, sign up soon the go Patrick willis also
1:04:52
Speaker 1: free bowling if you want.
1:04:53
Speaker 2: I can't keep this secret in any like this is
1:04:56
Speaker 2: this is amount rushmore time.
1:04:57
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:04:57
Speaker 1: When we're going through the list like super Bowl, you're
1:04:59
Speaker 1: trying to get these big time yes, Hall of Fame
1:05:01
Speaker 1: type cats and your name slid across. It was I
1:05:05
Speaker 1: will send behind me my shoulders. He's like pulling my shoulder.
1:05:08
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, we can get this guy. You
1:05:11
Speaker 1: think he'll come, Yes, dude, I think so, I'll get him.
1:05:14
Speaker 1: Make sure it happens. And then the Laney you're staying
1:05:17
Speaker 1: at the down the road, Willie hits you up. Is
1:05:20
Speaker 1: that Patrick Willison? And he's like, send me the address.
1:05:23
Speaker 1: I'll be there in five minutes. So this is that's
1:05:25
Speaker 1: how bust with the boys planning.
1:05:26
Speaker 2: Yes, we don't do it fifteen minutes ago. Send me
1:05:30
Speaker 2: the location.
1:05:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what you need. Guys like the lady that
1:05:32
Speaker 1: are just ready to ride and.
1:05:34
Speaker 6: You tell me.
1:05:35
Speaker 14: And I was literally just thinking about, man, my what
1:05:38
Speaker 14: second year in the league. I've come into practice, you
1:05:42
Speaker 14: know this is my remember my rookie year. It could
1:05:44
Speaker 14: have been my rookie year. But I come into practice,
1:05:46
Speaker 14: come into the facility, and I'm still trying to get
1:05:48
Speaker 14: to you know, know everybody it could have been a
1:05:50
Speaker 14: second year off season going on the second year, and
1:05:53
Speaker 14: but you know you're not really some of the guys
1:05:56
Speaker 14: have you know, those bikes and motorcycles and stuff or not.
1:06:01
Speaker 14: And I walk in and I know he had a
1:06:03
Speaker 14: nice black one and whatnot.
1:06:05
Speaker 6: Man.
1:06:06
Speaker 1: I come in one day, I come in, he's about
1:06:09
Speaker 1: he told me this free bowling. I come in one
1:06:13
Speaker 1: day and this guy here, man is walking like this head.
1:06:15
Speaker 6: I'm looking at what man like, where's all his skin at?
1:06:20
Speaker 1: Oh?
1:06:20
Speaker 14: Yeah, this man you said bike made me think about
1:06:24
Speaker 14: heim arounding his bike all night.
1:06:25
Speaker 1: Michaelphone, michaelphone, microphone.
1:06:27
Speaker 14: This man's skin, all his skin was was missing. And
1:06:30
Speaker 14: I'm like, yep, they either gonna get rid of him
1:06:33
Speaker 14: or he's not gonna be around because ain't know way
1:06:35
Speaker 14: he's gonna be able to practice like that.
1:06:36
Speaker 6: Man.
1:06:37
Speaker 14: You believe that that afternoon, this man was out there practicing.
1:06:41
Speaker 14: When I tell you guys, like he didn't have no
1:06:43
Speaker 14: skin on his body though. Man like all his poms, knees.
1:06:46
Speaker 6: And everything was gone but toes. So I remember that wreck.
1:06:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, motorcycles, this is this is this is before you
1:06:54
Speaker 1: and me cbable motorcycles.
1:06:56
Speaker 6: And he left the cabin.
1:06:57
Speaker 2: But we're kind of breezing over like he's.
1:07:02
Speaker 6: Lost.
1:07:03
Speaker 5: Patrick, bring this up since he led the cotter back.
1:07:05
Speaker 5: I told the forty nine or something else.
1:07:08
Speaker 7: It's okay, you guys are retired.
1:07:15
Speaker 1: Amore ship. You're fine, that was a real reaction.
1:07:21
Speaker 6: Two past.
1:07:22
Speaker 1: Oh ship, my bad.
1:07:25
Speaker 5: I was on the dirt bike and slid out in
1:07:27
Speaker 5: the neighborhood. But I was actually on the one on
1:07:29
Speaker 5: one and crashed on the freeway and slid about sixty
1:07:33
Speaker 5: yards and that's it ripped all my skin off.
1:07:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's telling the truth.
1:07:38
Speaker 5: I came in looking white arms everything. They had this
1:07:42
Speaker 5: scan graft me. They scrubbed me and screen graphed me
1:07:44
Speaker 5: that day. And I practiced because, like you said, I
1:07:47
Speaker 5: was getting e as Cuteah. I'm like, I'm getting cut
1:07:51
Speaker 5: if I don't practice, I'm getting.
1:07:53
Speaker 1: Cut the bonnet. They're like, hey, you were just outside,
1:07:55
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and you just slid out in your dirt bike.
1:07:59
Speaker 5: Motorcycles his dirt bikes, and I would back then.
1:08:02
Speaker 1: Yeah that's old lady.
1:08:04
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's in a motorcacle to practice.
1:08:09
Speaker 6: That is crazy.
1:08:10
Speaker 1: What was what was Delanny like as as when you
1:08:14
Speaker 1: were rookie?
1:08:15
Speaker 6: What year were you?
1:08:17
Speaker 1: Say?
1:08:17
Speaker 2: Okay, so relatively you guys are both young.
1:08:19
Speaker 1: I met I met Delaney, What you're year eight nine?
1:08:23
Speaker 1: Something like that. This is like Delanney Walker goes to
1:08:26
Speaker 1: the Titans. He's like he's a receiving threat. Now he's
1:08:28
Speaker 1: not a Core four guy anymore, so he had a
1:08:30
Speaker 1: different attitude about him.
1:08:31
Speaker 14: I'm assuming, man, no, I truthfully believe or not, not
1:08:34
Speaker 14: just because he's here, but Man, Delaney's one of the
1:08:36
Speaker 14: best teammates like that I've had. I wouldn't asked me
1:08:39
Speaker 14: earlier the best ones I've had, but as I'm thinking
1:08:42
Speaker 14: about it now and I'm literally not saying it because
1:08:43
Speaker 14: of you're here.
1:08:44
Speaker 6: But one of the things I love most about him.
1:08:46
Speaker 14: Was just his work ethic every day, and then on
1:08:49
Speaker 14: top of that, man he just embellished the roles that
1:08:52
Speaker 14: he had and was a difference maker.
1:08:54
Speaker 6: I haven't said many.
1:08:55
Speaker 14: I haven't said this to you, and I haven't said
1:08:57
Speaker 14: it to too many, but a few that Delaney. The
1:09:02
Speaker 14: year that Delaney left or not, I knew. I said, Man,
1:09:05
Speaker 14: the offense is not going to be the same no more.
1:09:07
Speaker 6: I said.
1:09:07
Speaker 14: He was our X factor to me scanning the offense,
1:09:10
Speaker 14: and though we had a bunch of players that were
1:09:12
Speaker 14: like badasses, he was the corporate. He was the X
1:09:16
Speaker 14: factor because he could do everything you see and Kyle,
1:09:19
Speaker 14: you check do now from being full back to being
1:09:22
Speaker 14: the U to being the f catching routes and all that.
1:09:25
Speaker 14: I was like, man, this guy he was really what
1:09:27
Speaker 14: makes our defense go around, because everybody else you can
1:09:30
Speaker 14: kind of kim, but it's always that extra, the extra guy,
1:09:33
Speaker 14: or that that guy.
1:09:34
Speaker 6: And he was one of those guys. And man, like
1:09:36
Speaker 6: I said, he just show up every day and part
1:09:38
Speaker 6: of the twenty squad. And yeah, he just had a
1:09:41
Speaker 6: heck of a teammates.
1:09:42
Speaker 14: So when he left, I was happy for him that
1:09:44
Speaker 14: he was going to go, you know, do his thing
1:09:46
Speaker 14: and get his rightful shine.
1:09:48
Speaker 6: So yeah, get paid. Yeah, my home state means a lot.
1:09:53
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then we got to play them.
1:09:56
Speaker 1: He was covering, he was trapping you up, honey, Nah.
1:10:00
Speaker 6: Well I think I don't know. I mean, you got
1:10:01
Speaker 6: one catch.
1:10:06
Speaker 2: On hey, one catch club.
1:10:10
Speaker 5: He may have only guarded me once, but I do
1:10:13
Speaker 5: remember pretty strong.
1:10:18
Speaker 14: But but I had to compete against him and Vernon.
1:10:20
Speaker 14: That's another thing, man, I had to compete against him
1:10:22
Speaker 14: and Vernon and both of you guys. What we see
1:10:24
Speaker 14: now with all the I mean, it's nothing new in
1:10:28
Speaker 14: the NFL, just maybe that which has been forgotten. But man,
1:10:31
Speaker 14: him and Vernon doing one on ones, you can't for her, man,
1:10:36
Speaker 14: we're moving. Vernon already was like fast, but Dlaane was fast,
1:10:39
Speaker 14: but Delaine had like shiftiness to and whatnot. And me,
1:10:42
Speaker 14: having coach seen the way these toes were set up,
1:10:46
Speaker 14: I used to dread. I used to be like, God,
1:10:49
Speaker 14: dang it, man, these one on one so I'm liken't
1:10:51
Speaker 14: wait do we get the team drill? At least I
1:10:53
Speaker 14: can now see past and there's just different stuff that
1:10:55
Speaker 14: you can pick up on. But no, man, heck of
1:10:57
Speaker 14: athlete and was a heck with teammates.
1:11:00
Speaker 6: Definitely does make you feel makes me.
1:11:02
Speaker 15: Feel good say something no, no, no, no, you gotta
1:11:07
Speaker 15: look at it like when you got Patrick Willis Navarro
1:11:10
Speaker 15: bowman to kill spikes, and you're going to get.
1:11:13
Speaker 5: These guys every day, like and they already at the
1:11:17
Speaker 5: top of their game like Patrick, Rookie of the Year, rookie, Yeah,
1:11:22
Speaker 5: defense deferent defensive rookie of the Year. I mean like,
1:11:24
Speaker 5: so you seeing these guys come in, it's like we
1:11:27
Speaker 5: got to compete with them every day. When they call
1:11:29
Speaker 5: that tight ends and lineback, it's like, damn, put your
1:11:32
Speaker 5: mouth because they had hunters, you know.
1:11:35
Speaker 1: Spike said that Nat too.
1:11:37
Speaker 5: We got blocking drills first, We're like, okay, they're gonna
1:11:43
Speaker 5: win that one.
1:11:45
Speaker 6: We'ren win this past.
1:11:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, like one of the ones, like offensive line with
1:11:50
Speaker 1: what is that not the most bullshit drill of all time?
1:11:53
Speaker 1: We hated you. Would you start from depth three? You're
1:11:55
Speaker 1: starting the line of scrimmage?
1:11:56
Speaker 6: We would.
1:11:57
Speaker 14: It would depends if outside were running three, so outside
1:12:00
Speaker 14: linebacker they would start at the line. But then me
1:12:03
Speaker 14: being off the ball, you know I have to catch them.
1:12:05
Speaker 14: I play off the.
1:12:06
Speaker 6: Ball the ball.
1:12:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's the most unfair thing ever. With the
1:12:10
Speaker 1: running backs too, I would watch it like from a distance, Well,
1:12:12
Speaker 1: we're doing one of the ones, like I hate doing
1:12:13
Speaker 1: one on ones, but I look over like these pour
1:12:15
Speaker 1: running backs. Dude get just like ten yards away and
1:12:17
Speaker 1: the guy's just spreading. He's like, and it's it's.
1:12:20
Speaker 5: Not even fair tale they put the bag right behind you.
1:12:23
Speaker 5: He's not about to joke you.
1:12:24
Speaker 2: I'm about to just heap run rights. Hey, try to
1:12:28
Speaker 2: work moves. Don't just run through.
1:12:29
Speaker 5: They say that, but y'all, don't y'all just come downhill
1:12:32
Speaker 5: that first one always, Yeah.
1:12:34
Speaker 6: I gotta let you know.
1:12:36
Speaker 14: That's how you that's how you shock them, because then
1:12:37
Speaker 14: they're gonna be setting light, They're gonna set heavy and
1:12:40
Speaker 14: that's when you can put the moves.
1:12:42
Speaker 6: Yeah, the dude.
1:12:44
Speaker 1: One thing, uh, one thing I'm realizing is like the
1:12:46
Speaker 1: forty nine ers now, like with Kittle, CMC, Warner Trent,
1:12:51
Speaker 1: seems like their locker room, like you look like from
1:12:53
Speaker 1: a distance, like that locker room right there, it seems
1:12:55
Speaker 1: like one of the best locker rooms just here. The
1:12:56
Speaker 1: way you guys talk, it seems like one of the
1:12:58
Speaker 1: best locker rooms ever in that situation. Do you think
1:13:02
Speaker 1: it has anything to do with the five G satellite
1:13:05
Speaker 1: thing right now? Do you think there's I knew he
1:13:10
Speaker 1: was going to.
1:13:11
Speaker 6: I think there's something like it.
1:13:12
Speaker 1: Gets your brainers and like, hey, we got to be bros,
1:13:14
Speaker 1: Like is it a bro satellite? Is what I? Oh?
1:13:17
Speaker 1: I liked that, Yeah, bro sayes come with it. But
1:13:20
Speaker 1: also we're all bro.
1:13:22
Speaker 14: I loved I loved the team that we had. I
1:13:24
Speaker 14: mean I was when I came in in two thousand
1:13:26
Speaker 14: and seven. Yeah, we didn't have the we had the
1:13:29
Speaker 14: best of squads, but man, the teammates. But then that
1:13:32
Speaker 14: twenty eleven, twelve, and thirteen, even fourteen fourteen was like
1:13:37
Speaker 14: that was a crazy year for me. But twenty eleven
1:13:39
Speaker 14: and twenty fourteen and these were the best teammates to
1:13:43
Speaker 14: have from offense, defense to special teams and to just
1:13:46
Speaker 14: see how each and every day like we would show
1:13:48
Speaker 14: up for one another like it was. It reminds me
1:13:51
Speaker 14: of you know, the last two years I've been able
1:13:53
Speaker 14: to be in the forty nine ers locker room from
1:13:56
Speaker 14: an ambassador and also football operations, and I was say,
1:14:00
Speaker 14: like that that squad that they have, they have that
1:14:03
Speaker 14: same they have that same connection in their ways. And
1:14:06
Speaker 14: that's the concept when people like, man, you could come
1:14:08
Speaker 14: back and play look at you and I'm like, man,
1:14:10
Speaker 14: I don't have the same guys, Like it's something about
1:14:12
Speaker 14: the guy that you you show up with every day
1:14:14
Speaker 14: and you build with. And I had Kim, we had
1:14:16
Speaker 14: I played what seven years with Delaney, So I played
1:14:20
Speaker 14: most of my career with these guys, and so to
1:14:22
Speaker 14: come back and not have the same guys, I'm like,
1:14:24
Speaker 14: you had to start all the way back over and
1:14:26
Speaker 14: then now it's a different different lea. Now you say
1:14:29
Speaker 14: something or they looking at you like I'm not I'm
1:14:30
Speaker 14: not going hard. I'm not gonna do that, And that
1:14:32
Speaker 14: would just mess me all the way up, you know,
1:14:34
Speaker 14: because the guys we had were going to show up
1:14:36
Speaker 14: each and every day, and I honestly, I'm thinking about
1:14:38
Speaker 14: it now, Delaney. He was a heck of an athlete.
1:14:41
Speaker 14: But I was thinking, I didn't realize you was drafted
1:14:44
Speaker 14: where you were drafted, And I'm now thinking, I'm like,
1:14:46
Speaker 14: is that why you was every day? Man? You was
1:14:47
Speaker 14: just I mean, he showed up every single day as
1:14:50
Speaker 14: if it was like his life was depending on it
1:14:53
Speaker 14: or something. But you would have never known that because
1:14:55
Speaker 14: I would I feel like he should have been being paid,
1:14:58
Speaker 14: like you know, like the top dog is the way
1:15:00
Speaker 14: he was showing up whatnot. But I say, I have
1:15:02
Speaker 14: to say, yeah, I loved those teammates, said I had
1:15:05
Speaker 14: to went to battle with each and every Sunday.
1:15:08
Speaker 5: I would say, and you know he probably speak on
1:15:11
Speaker 5: this too. We used to have parties. Now we're getting
1:15:18
Speaker 5: into the flood.
1:15:18
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, hey, hey all the Smith parties.
1:15:28
Speaker 6: He never went. I had.
1:15:30
Speaker 14: What I would do is I would have mine at
1:15:34
Speaker 14: got them so we would have uh what July, Well,
1:15:37
Speaker 14: I'm sorry, right before camp. I would always have something
1:15:40
Speaker 14: at for two or three years. I would have something
1:15:43
Speaker 14: in my house house and they would come out and whatnot.
1:15:46
Speaker 14: And it was a great time. Man we had a
1:15:48
Speaker 14: chance to just bond man people food, Yeah, come all over.
1:15:52
Speaker 14: We had the taco trucks and it was special times.
1:15:56
Speaker 14: And then then when we was like started winning and
1:15:58
Speaker 14: we would in January when we had that, we ended
1:16:02
Speaker 14: up getting to buy a couple of times. And my
1:16:04
Speaker 14: birthday was the twenty fifth, and so we would have
1:16:06
Speaker 14: like that whatever that little window was in there, we
1:16:09
Speaker 14: could have another little gathering. And so yeah, we just
1:16:12
Speaker 14: know we had some good times.
1:16:13
Speaker 6: We all did, and I.
1:16:14
Speaker 5: Mean everybody from Cowboy, Justin Smith, I mean everyone on
1:16:19
Speaker 5: the team, Joe Staley, we all in the area, just vibing,
1:16:23
Speaker 5: eating food, having good time. And I think that's what
1:16:26
Speaker 5: made us so good. Like after games, it was just
1:16:29
Speaker 5: like what we're doing. We all knew it was gonna
1:16:32
Speaker 5: be together. It was just like a close group.
1:16:35
Speaker 2: Man, if you're trying to find a party, you're hitting
1:16:37
Speaker 2: up Delaney, so the lady.
1:16:40
Speaker 1: These parties were like that. And it was the same
1:16:41
Speaker 1: way as the Titans top ten year. If you ever
1:16:44
Speaker 1: want to get get into something on the weekend, it's like, hey,
1:16:46
Speaker 1: what's the Yeah.
1:16:48
Speaker 5: I mean I learned it from I learned it from
1:16:50
Speaker 5: being with the Niners. I mean the parties we throw
1:16:53
Speaker 5: was top to at his house would be crazy. At
1:16:56
Speaker 5: Ray McDonald house would be.
1:16:57
Speaker 14: Like, lit, we're good, crazy mind, you're good crazy of mine.
1:17:02
Speaker 14: At the other one they talked about that.
1:17:04
Speaker 1: That's the one you fall back.
1:17:07
Speaker 6: I would be there.
1:17:08
Speaker 14: Would you come for a little bit and you you knew,
1:17:10
Speaker 14: like all right after after hours, so I'm.
1:17:13
Speaker 6: Gonna get yeah, be too much fun and whatnot. But
1:17:18
Speaker 6: it was it was awesome.
1:17:19
Speaker 14: Patrick used to have his alcohol at the top. He
1:17:21
Speaker 14: used to check that he drinking. It was just it
1:17:29
Speaker 14: wasn't just anybody. It was a bottle that I got
1:17:32
Speaker 14: for my birthday a friend lady of mine. They got
1:17:35
Speaker 14: it for my birthday and it was it was the
1:17:36
Speaker 14: Louis but it was like the big bottle. It was
1:17:38
Speaker 14: like it cost some money. So I was like, man,
1:17:40
Speaker 14: I'm gonna wait until we went to super Bowl or something,
1:17:43
Speaker 14: and that's what I'm gonna drink it.
1:17:45
Speaker 6: Man.
1:17:46
Speaker 14: After that it was two thousand and I don't know
1:17:47
Speaker 14: for the year that we went to the super Bowl
1:17:49
Speaker 14: or when it was, but I just know I had
1:17:51
Speaker 14: had the.
1:17:51
Speaker 6: Party in my house. I come in in and I
1:17:53
Speaker 6: see this rookie the full back drinking. Yeah.
1:17:58
Speaker 14: Have the bottle in his hand, and I see him,
1:18:00
Speaker 14: I see him drinking at the bottle and I see
1:18:01
Speaker 14: just a little bit left and right away my chest.
1:18:05
Speaker 1: He looked, he look yeah, yeah, I think myself, My god,
1:18:10
Speaker 1: that's how you look.
1:18:10
Speaker 14: That's how That's how he looked at me as I
1:18:12
Speaker 14: was looking at him. And then then all of a sudden,
1:18:14
Speaker 14: I saw him look at Cowboy justin and he was like,
1:18:18
Speaker 14: he told me, okay, and Cowboy alcohol, you can get
1:18:24
Speaker 14: you another bottle.
1:18:24
Speaker 1: I'm like, just too. So you're like, yeah, so did
1:18:33
Speaker 1: he you make Cowboy or this young cat get you
1:18:36
Speaker 1: a new bottle and make sure you had the mic
1:18:38
Speaker 1: just a little bit higher?
1:18:38
Speaker 5: No?
1:18:39
Speaker 6: I didn't. I didn't, Cowboy.
1:18:41
Speaker 1: Was you selling like a really solid leader, teammate type
1:18:46
Speaker 1: of guy the lady make everybody pay for I swear to.
1:18:49
Speaker 5: God, Cowboy would have brought him if he if he
1:18:51
Speaker 5: would have said anything, Cowboy that brought because when he
1:18:53
Speaker 5: said Joe Staley furniture on fire, he brought Joe Staley.
1:18:58
Speaker 1: Let's take a quick pant what happened.
1:19:02
Speaker 2: Cowboy aka Just Smith and also Joe Staley's furniture.
1:19:07
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're on this podcast. You can tell.
1:19:09
Speaker 1: Pat's like, all right, yeah, I'll do I'll do some
1:19:11
Speaker 1: media this week. Go bullying. It's great cause comes in
1:19:14
Speaker 1: great guys, good teammates. I bring up the self cell tower,
1:19:18
Speaker 1: like we had a great squad. Like he said, somebody's
1:19:21
Speaker 1: house on fire.
1:19:23
Speaker 5: So, like I said, it depends on who house was
1:19:26
Speaker 5: hosting a party. Usually it was the dudes with the
1:19:28
Speaker 5: most money. You know, Joe Staley, Patrick Willis, they got
1:19:32
Speaker 5: big houses. So Joe Staley throw a party justin just
1:19:37
Speaker 5: Justin Smith literally just get to the team, like a
1:19:39
Speaker 5: week or two weeks.
1:19:41
Speaker 6: He gets to the.
1:19:42
Speaker 5: Team and we had Joe Staley house. He got like
1:19:44
Speaker 5: a bonfire thing in the middle. And if y'all ever
1:19:48
Speaker 5: seen Justin Smith with a few natties, he is he's scary.
1:19:53
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could be an aggressive type.
1:19:55
Speaker 5: And being aggressive like where you get a little uncomfortable,
1:19:58
Speaker 5: you got to either fight.
1:19:59
Speaker 6: Or rest either.
1:20:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's big guy, that big.
1:20:05
Speaker 5: He goes like after, I'm gonna just tell the sorry.
1:20:08
Speaker 5: So he Joe Staley and him had had a little argument.
1:20:10
Speaker 5: He head bunchs Joe stalely breaks his nose.
1:20:13
Speaker 6: That's why his nose all the time. Every time Joe
1:20:15
Speaker 6: with that.
1:20:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got that little little split right there that.
1:20:19
Speaker 5: He breaks his nose. I don't know what what happened
1:20:24
Speaker 5: after that. I don't I went in the house and
1:20:26
Speaker 5: then I came back out and Justice Smith was throwing
1:20:30
Speaker 5: his furniture in the fire.
1:20:32
Speaker 2: So Justine Smith head bundts Joe Staley and Staley's having
1:20:37
Speaker 2: a bonfire.
1:20:37
Speaker 1: Joseph Smith brand new to the team. But also it goes,
1:20:40
Speaker 1: this is a good time for me to get into.
1:20:43
Speaker 5: I don't because for some reason, cowboys like to pick
1:20:46
Speaker 5: on me.
1:20:47
Speaker 7: Bro anything I have.
1:20:48
Speaker 5: He want to mess with me, my chain, my ring.
1:20:50
Speaker 5: I'm like, dude, I'm gonna shoot you know I can't
1:20:54
Speaker 5: beat you up.
1:20:55
Speaker 6: I know that.
1:20:55
Speaker 5: I didn't see you whoop so many dudes that I
1:20:58
Speaker 5: was like, maybe we'll have a problem, and you whooped them.
1:21:02
Speaker 1: The first guy. You're hearing Delanny be a little scared
1:21:04
Speaker 1: of Justice. But hey, it's also go into the way,
1:21:07
Speaker 1: like when I got to the Titians. You see Delanney
1:21:09
Speaker 1: the way he talked to the younger cats, like, all
1:21:10
Speaker 1: know your name when you.
1:21:11
Speaker 7: Make the roster.
1:21:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, Justin Smith, just Smith made.
1:21:16
Speaker 1: That all happen. So they said, like a sweet boy
1:21:18
Speaker 1: and Justine Smith room deal.
1:21:19
Speaker 5: No he so, yeah, Justice Smith is the nicest dude
1:21:21
Speaker 5: until he drinks. So after after all this, have he
1:21:24
Speaker 5: burns Joe stately furniture? I can't even push him through
1:21:27
Speaker 5: a fence?
1:21:28
Speaker 1: Right, how did it go?
1:21:28
Speaker 9: No?
1:21:28
Speaker 1: How did he get get to that? Did you ever
1:21:30
Speaker 1: do some reconnaissance work? We're like, hey, by the way,
1:21:33
Speaker 1: how did they get to the point where they burned
1:21:35
Speaker 1: his furniture?
1:21:36
Speaker 6: Well that, he said.
1:21:37
Speaker 5: So I come up and I tell just I said,
1:21:39
Speaker 5: damn man, why you do Joe like that? He said,
1:21:42
Speaker 5: because you walk up to the biggest person and you
1:21:44
Speaker 5: beat him up when you knew on the team prison rules.
1:21:47
Speaker 5: That's what he told me. He said, So, Joe stay
1:21:49
Speaker 5: the biggest person on the team.
1:21:51
Speaker 6: I beat him up.
1:21:53
Speaker 1: There are you at this party?
1:21:54
Speaker 7: No?
1:21:54
Speaker 6: I'm not this party? But speaking of what Justice?
1:21:56
Speaker 14: So the first time I meet Justin Smith the first
1:21:58
Speaker 14: day we signed him, that night, he said, sign he's
1:22:01
Speaker 14: a SnO so I heard he said, signo. And I'm
1:22:03
Speaker 14: standing down in sant turna roa at the time. Its
1:22:05
Speaker 14: kind of like a Rodale draws his buildings on top,
1:22:07
Speaker 14: like apartments and stuff.
1:22:09
Speaker 6: I walked down to meet him, you know, just trying
1:22:11
Speaker 6: to be there. You know, it's my second year, second year,
1:22:14
Speaker 6: so I just want to go in and you know, hey, man,
1:22:16
Speaker 6: what's happening on? Patrick?
1:22:17
Speaker 1: You know, you know that I'm one of the you know,
1:22:20
Speaker 1: one of the Yeah we're boys now man.
1:22:22
Speaker 6: I walk up to him to shake his hand, and
1:22:25
Speaker 6: he don't shake my hand. He just he looks at me.
1:22:28
Speaker 6: You can tell you I had a couple of them.
1:22:29
Speaker 6: He looked at me. He was I said, hey, I'm Patrick.
1:22:32
Speaker 6: He kind of like he was just like, oh, I'm sorry,
1:22:38
Speaker 6: but that's how it was.
1:22:39
Speaker 14: And he did it, and like he did it twice
1:22:40
Speaker 14: and then on the after the second time, I said
1:22:42
Speaker 14: to myself in my head, I was like, man, I
1:22:44
Speaker 14: had to tell him he wanted to stop hitting me
1:22:46
Speaker 14: me one more time like that, we wanted to fight
1:22:48
Speaker 14: and we just we just getting to know each other.
1:22:50
Speaker 14: But come to find out I asked him, I say, hey, man,
1:22:53
Speaker 14: not not that. They was like later on, I said,
1:22:55
Speaker 14: why would you slap me like that? He was like, oh,
1:22:57
Speaker 14: I had to see if he was tough or not.
1:22:59
Speaker 14: I promised you, he said.
1:23:02
Speaker 1: Russia. Like He's like original, that's crazy.
1:23:08
Speaker 9: He was.
1:23:10
Speaker 6: He was one of those dudes.
1:23:13
Speaker 2: He got to show me your tough.
1:23:15
Speaker 6: He was one of those dudes. I ain't gonna lie.
1:23:17
Speaker 5: When I met him, I said, okay, he is football,
1:23:20
Speaker 5: smoked cigarettes, drink beer and can play in the game.
1:23:23
Speaker 5: Every day he will smoke packs of cigarettes.
1:23:26
Speaker 2: So why did he end up burning Joe Stay's furniture?
1:23:28
Speaker 1: Yeah?
1:23:30
Speaker 5: I think he just got to the point where he
1:23:32
Speaker 5: broke Joe staley nose and then he threw him through
1:23:34
Speaker 5: the fence or something. Joke you can you can tell us.
1:23:36
Speaker 5: Did he push you through the fence or did you
1:23:38
Speaker 5: fall through the fence? Something happened, Joe fell through the
1:23:40
Speaker 5: fence and he and like I said, Justin gets to
1:23:43
Speaker 5: the point where he's blacked out. He don't I don't
1:23:46
Speaker 5: think he knows what he's doing. So then he just
1:23:48
Speaker 5: just he just start throwing his furniture in the fire.
1:23:51
Speaker 5: And but then the next day he brought him all
1:23:54
Speaker 5: new furniture he had to deliver to his house.
1:23:58
Speaker 1: He's a called you justly right now?
1:23:59
Speaker 5: Yeah, ask him how that story?
1:24:03
Speaker 6: Why he did that? Ask him?
1:24:04
Speaker 1: Why is the same number? You know?
1:24:07
Speaker 6: Man, Justin got a son, now two that man that's
1:24:10
Speaker 6: a third brand. Yeah he tall. He's taller than Justin. Like, yeah,
1:24:15
Speaker 6: he taller than Justin only eleventh grade and like one
1:24:19
Speaker 6: of the high prospects d M high prospects for a
1:24:22
Speaker 6: Popka Wow in Florida. Like, look, he looks like a
1:24:26
Speaker 6: young you know.
1:24:27
Speaker 2: He's telling this boy too, like you find the biggest
1:24:30
Speaker 2: bitch on the team.
1:24:31
Speaker 6: Yeah, he would. He would always say.
1:24:37
Speaker 14: He would always say two weeks to joke with him,
1:24:38
Speaker 14: because it's one of the things that amazes me today
1:24:41
Speaker 14: is like, I don't have any kids on my own,
1:24:42
Speaker 14: but a lot of the guys when we was playing,
1:24:44
Speaker 14: they had like little ones. Now they're not little some
1:24:47
Speaker 14: more now, a lot of them Like, man, they there
1:24:48
Speaker 14: taller than I am. And so I remember when Justin
1:24:53
Speaker 14: was young, I mean, when Justin's kids were being born,
1:24:55
Speaker 14: especially as person, we'd always like, just you can raise
1:24:57
Speaker 14: your kids in California. I ain't raising my kids. No,
1:25:00
Speaker 14: damn California. Like it's too soft here. I'm taking them
1:25:03
Speaker 14: back to the South. I'm turning them back to the Midwest.
1:25:05
Speaker 14: And he literally did that.
1:25:07
Speaker 6: Man, he built a big old mansion in Missouri, and
1:25:10
Speaker 6: when he retired, he took him back to Missouri.
1:25:13
Speaker 1: You guys keep up with him.
1:25:14
Speaker 6: Yeah, Yeah, I just talked. I just talked to him.
1:25:17
Speaker 6: What last week?
1:25:18
Speaker 2: It was something just got that mentality. I remember, like
1:25:22
Speaker 2: Trent Murphy and then our kicker was Dustin Hopkins. They
1:25:24
Speaker 2: were like playing in the locker room or Dustin was
1:25:27
Speaker 2: kind of messing playing with them and messing with them
1:25:29
Speaker 2: where they were wrestling a little bit, and I was
1:25:31
Speaker 2: watching and Trent got this look in his eye and
1:25:33
Speaker 2: where he started like choking him or doing something, and
1:25:35
Speaker 2: it kind of got a little It was like, hey,
1:25:37
Speaker 2: what's going on. I just remember asking like, hey, what
1:25:39
Speaker 2: was that all about. He's like as serious as possible.
1:25:41
Speaker 2: He's like, it's a food chain in here.
1:25:44
Speaker 1: Bro. Comment goes so hard, so hard. I'm taking right
1:25:52
Speaker 1: here something I wish I was ten years younger right now. Yeah,
1:25:55
Speaker 1: And I'm thinking he's just the nicest dude.
1:25:57
Speaker 2: He's the kicker. He's just having some fun, Like all right,
1:26:01
Speaker 2: all right, big I would one of my boys to
1:26:04
Speaker 2: make sure to keep him close.
1:26:06
Speaker 1: I'll be honest.
1:26:08
Speaker 5: If you played with Cowboy, he would have tried you.
1:26:11
Speaker 5: You was you was the dude on the team, the
1:26:13
Speaker 5: big guy. They would have tried.
1:26:21
Speaker 1: Hey, for real though his mindset of like the prison,
1:26:24
Speaker 1: you gotta find the biggest guy, fight him immediately. Like
1:26:26
Speaker 1: I had that I thought process at Michigan and then
1:26:30
Speaker 1: my first day at ot as like Kevin Coogler, he
1:26:33
Speaker 1: was getting all crazy. So I was like, I gotta
1:26:36
Speaker 1: fight this guy in practice today so people know, like
1:26:39
Speaker 1: I'm for real and I would I fought him, but
1:26:41
Speaker 1: I was like, this dude would have beat my ass
1:26:43
Speaker 1: because it was Kevin Carl.
1:26:45
Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, Kevin was a fight or Carl Carl.
1:26:49
Speaker 1: Carl Iowa kid, Iowa kid, Yeah, fight every day every day.
1:26:53
Speaker 1: He would just try to fight a practice and they
1:26:55
Speaker 1: were like the first day he got in a fight
1:26:57
Speaker 1: and no one really did anything about it, and then
1:26:59
Speaker 1: he like shoved me out after He's like you do
1:27:00
Speaker 1: that again something some next play due in the next play,
1:27:05
Speaker 1: like he was a three tape down. I went to
1:27:06
Speaker 1: cut him off and I grabbed his face mask and
1:27:07
Speaker 1: brought him back, and I'm like, yeah, and I wish
1:27:12
Speaker 1: to god. The coach pulled me in the office. He's like,
1:27:14
Speaker 1: why would you do that. I go, it's a food
1:27:16
Speaker 1: chain out here.
1:27:19
Speaker 6: I wish I could have.
1:27:21
Speaker 1: Had me one time.
1:27:22
Speaker 2: He made me delete a photo or a video off
1:27:25
Speaker 2: my phone because he was he was wrestling again, like
1:27:28
Speaker 2: in uh it might have been with the Houston Bates.
1:27:30
Speaker 2: They're wrestling in the weight room and I caught him
1:27:32
Speaker 2: in like a little gay position. So I was like,
1:27:34
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm just being me. I'm like I
1:27:36
Speaker 2: recorded or I take a photo or something like that.
1:27:38
Speaker 2: And Trent like corners me and he's like, hey, you
1:27:41
Speaker 2: got to delete that photo.
1:27:42
Speaker 1: And I was like, are you be serious right now?
1:27:44
Speaker 2: Because we trend now, we're like we're boys with joke
1:27:46
Speaker 2: all the time, meetings, all this stuff. He was just
1:27:49
Speaker 2: saying he had he must have just been in a mood,
1:27:51
Speaker 2: but he was like, you're going to delete that photo.
1:27:53
Speaker 1: He's like standing over me.
1:27:54
Speaker 6: He goes.
1:27:55
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, I'm not gonna like I'm just
1:27:56
Speaker 1: messing around. And he goes.
1:27:58
Speaker 6: He walks to the door.
1:28:00
Speaker 2: He shuts the door because I'm in like the training
1:28:02
Speaker 2: We're in the training room and I think I'm in
1:28:04
Speaker 2: one of the trainer's offices and uh, he shuts the
1:28:07
Speaker 2: door and locks it and he's like, you got a
1:28:09
Speaker 2: minute to delete that photo.
1:28:10
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, hey, being like your boy
1:28:17
Speaker 1: boy true my boy.
1:28:18
Speaker 2: Bro. I mean he like he's looking at my wedding. Yeah,
1:28:21
Speaker 2: he like said a little prayer at the wedding. But yeah,
1:28:23
Speaker 2: Trent is my he's my bro. But he like comes
1:28:25
Speaker 2: over king Yeah and Trey. You know how big he is.
1:28:28
Speaker 2: He's also the.
1:28:29
Speaker 1: Runt of his family.
1:28:30
Speaker 2: There's like six ord He's like the run and uh
1:28:36
Speaker 2: he locks the door.
1:28:37
Speaker 1: He's like, you got a minute to delete that photo?
1:28:39
Speaker 1: And I like pulled out. I was like, here you
1:28:40
Speaker 1: go delete.
1:28:41
Speaker 2: I was like I deleted it and I set the
1:28:42
Speaker 2: phone back on the on the desk and he's like,
1:28:44
Speaker 2: go to your deleted album and I was like, hey, listen, man,
1:28:47
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to delete.
1:28:49
Speaker 6: It was.
1:28:52
Speaker 1: The fact that you guys made it out of that
1:28:53
Speaker 1: and you invited him to the wedding.
1:28:55
Speaker 14: Yeah.
1:28:55
Speaker 2: Bro, Like we ended up talking, like, you know, apologizing
1:28:58
Speaker 2: to each other, like having a you know, having a
1:29:00
Speaker 2: vulnerable moment with each other.
1:29:02
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:29:03
Speaker 2: But I remember he had the fear of got me
1:29:05
Speaker 2: when he shut he like slowly shut the door. Love
1:29:07
Speaker 2: things like you got sixty seconds to delete that pick
1:29:09
Speaker 2: to delete that photo.
1:29:11
Speaker 1: I'm like Jesus fucking Christ.
1:29:12
Speaker 6: Yeah, he can be.
1:29:15
Speaker 1: The lineman. Some of them d lin and the big
1:29:18
Speaker 1: white d Lineman. Bro.
1:29:19
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm saying it ain't many, and it's it's not
1:29:21
Speaker 6: many of white white people.
1:29:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, just psychos, the white guys in general.
1:29:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, did you play did you play with you said Michigan,
1:29:32
Speaker 6: you played, you played in Michigan.
1:29:34
Speaker 1: Yeah.
1:29:34
Speaker 6: Yeah. Did you play with the left tackle that was
1:29:37
Speaker 6: drafted to Miami.
1:29:39
Speaker 1: No, that's my hero, Jake Long.
1:29:41
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he was. I think he was in We
1:29:43
Speaker 6: was in the same draft.
1:29:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, two thousand and eight. He was eight, you were seven.
1:29:48
Speaker 6: Was seven.
1:29:48
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was the first overall and eight. And dude,
1:29:51
Speaker 1: he's like the reason why I went to Michigan because
1:29:53
Speaker 1: I was in I was in Arizona and I transferred
1:29:55
Speaker 1: school as my senior year because this kid was like
1:29:57
Speaker 1: the number sixty end and they're like, hey, you should
1:29:59
Speaker 1: play offensive. You kind of have that build where you
1:30:01
Speaker 1: can like really grow into it. And my dad's like,
1:30:04
Speaker 1: my dad's from the Middlewest, he's from Minnesota. He's like, Hey,
1:30:07
Speaker 1: there's this cat who's a left tackle of Michigan. He
1:30:09
Speaker 1: wears number seventy seven. He's gonna be the first overall
1:30:12
Speaker 1: pick next year. Like, you should wear seventy seven. That's
1:30:14
Speaker 1: a badass number. I'm like, yeah, okay, and literally just
1:30:16
Speaker 1: watching him, dude, he came in the league, he was
1:30:18
Speaker 1: All pros first year, four Pro Bowls in a row,
1:30:21
Speaker 1: and then just injury after injury kind of just took
1:30:23
Speaker 1: him out. But that's my goat.
1:30:24
Speaker 6: Well you just said that. It just made me think
1:30:25
Speaker 6: about it. I was like, man, I wonder whatever happened.
1:30:27
Speaker 14: We had the same agent. Yeah, it was not and
1:30:29
Speaker 14: it was super super cool guy. We hung out a
1:30:31
Speaker 14: couple of times in in Vegas. Like his money was
1:30:35
Speaker 14: his money was different.
1:30:36
Speaker 1: I heard some stories about him in Vegas like he
1:30:38
Speaker 1: would go to the table. I don't want to put
1:30:40
Speaker 1: him on blast, maybe he would and he would lose
1:30:44
Speaker 1: whatever and he'd be like whatever and walk away and
1:30:46
Speaker 1: just being at the tables and generally've all been there,
1:30:48
Speaker 1: Like you lose a dollar, You're like, how the fuck
1:30:50
Speaker 1: do I get that dollar?
1:30:51
Speaker 13: Man?
1:30:51
Speaker 5: Remember he was at a time where when you got
1:30:54
Speaker 5: drafted overall, they gave you thirty five million.
1:30:56
Speaker 7: So he got sixty four dollars even start touched the field.
1:31:02
Speaker 5: Sixty four million I got.
1:31:03
Speaker 1: I got offered by Utah State, my going into my
1:31:05
Speaker 1: senior year and I'm like, that was when I was like,
1:31:06
Speaker 1: oh shit, I'm gonna go to the league, like my
1:31:08
Speaker 1: path is clear in my head. And then I see
1:31:10
Speaker 1: him sign that, I'm like, oh my god, I'm the
1:31:14
Speaker 1: first overall, but it's gonna be what's gonna be then?
1:31:16
Speaker 1: And then like twenty eleven new CBA first overall pick
1:31:20
Speaker 1: it's fifteen. It's like it's not sixty five. Okay, yeah,
1:31:23
Speaker 1: yeah happened. Now the money is dressed to.
1:31:25
Speaker 6: Eight seven.
1:31:28
Speaker 2: Overall, eleven eleven over it was your same he he
1:31:34
Speaker 2: was pre CBA though, Yeah, I am. I just I
1:31:37
Speaker 2: understand the guaranteed that. Man, you look back on it now,
1:31:42
Speaker 2: I can see how. I see why them old heads
1:31:43
Speaker 2: used to say what they would say when they would
1:31:45
Speaker 2: come around, and they'd be like, you youngsters, y'all making
1:31:48
Speaker 2: that kind of money. If I made that kind of
1:31:49
Speaker 2: money when I was playing, you're young. But I'm like,
1:31:52
Speaker 2: all right, man, y'all just you know you respect him.
1:31:54
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, now now I said the same thing.
1:31:59
Speaker 2: I'm like, Man, when I signed, I think it was
1:32:02
Speaker 2: my signing bumps was like five six million, and it
1:32:06
Speaker 2: was like eleven. I thing, it was like eleven something
1:32:09
Speaker 2: overall like maybe twelve million, like total contract.
1:32:13
Speaker 14: But man, I love back on life now and I'm like,
1:32:16
Speaker 14: yeah that. But then I just think about, like how, yes,
1:32:19
Speaker 14: there was a lot of money, but I almost feel
1:32:21
Speaker 14: like it wasn't really any money when.
1:32:23
Speaker 6: You start like taxes and you start getting it all
1:32:27
Speaker 6: down and so you start, as.
1:32:28
Speaker 2: The time backers now getting what in between like fifteen
1:32:30
Speaker 2: and twenty on the inside.
1:32:31
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
1:32:32
Speaker 6: So when they was they started talking a little bit.
1:32:35
Speaker 6: They was like, man, I look at you, man, like
1:32:36
Speaker 6: you could come back.
1:32:37
Speaker 14: And first of all, as I said, I'm like, man,
1:32:39
Speaker 14: I ain't have the same teammates, my feet, body, my
1:32:42
Speaker 14: body has been long past that. But at the same time,
1:32:44
Speaker 14: I'm like, boy, if I could somehow get some get
1:32:48
Speaker 14: some important juice and somehow like get myself like.
1:32:51
Speaker 6: Perfect, I'm like, man, you a two year deal? Like man,
1:32:56
Speaker 6: I was like yeah. But at the same time, I'm.
1:33:00
Speaker 1: Like, nah, it's crazy though, because every every generation like you,
1:33:03
Speaker 1: if you're able to get paid in the league, everyone's like, hey,
1:33:06
Speaker 1: congratulations all this, But then you get five years removed
1:33:09
Speaker 1: and it's like middle of the pack. Guys are making
1:33:12
Speaker 1: what used to be like holy ship money. That's just
1:33:14
Speaker 1: that's called inflation.
1:33:15
Speaker 6: Boys, Like that happened to me right after I signed
1:33:19
Speaker 6: my extension.
1:33:20
Speaker 14: Man, I was the highest paid at the moment, and
1:33:22
Speaker 14: then the next year I think Sean Lee the Cowboys,
1:33:27
Speaker 14: I think it was Yeah, he ended up crushing the
1:33:31
Speaker 14: deal or the following year, and I'm like, well, that's
1:33:35
Speaker 14: that's how you.
1:33:35
Speaker 1: Goes to enjoy it for that six month yea, yeah, yeah,
1:33:37
Speaker 1: right to marrow.
1:33:38
Speaker 5: That's why you never want to be the first one, though,
1:33:40
Speaker 5: to get a new deal, because.
1:33:42
Speaker 1: Right if you get it early in the cycle, that's
1:33:44
Speaker 1: when people start jumping, Like this past year with like
1:33:47
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett and Crosby and all these defensive ends. Like
1:33:50
Speaker 1: everyone wants to be like the highest paid non quarterback
1:33:52
Speaker 1: in the league, and they get it three months later.
1:33:55
Speaker 1: So we get five hundred thousand more, the five hundred
1:33:56
Speaker 1: thousand more. It's all this little game. But like, hey,
1:33:59
Speaker 1: you were the top seven days, like you were the
1:34:02
Speaker 1: top cat dude. I mean, obviously making a lot of
1:34:04
Speaker 1: money in the league. It's awesome, But you were doing
1:34:07
Speaker 1: all right at Old Miss, weren't you. I thought we
1:34:15
Speaker 1: were having fun. His coach was to coach O.
1:34:18
Speaker 6: No coach was in my last two years.
1:34:21
Speaker 1: Before you lied to me. We had coach O and
1:34:27
Speaker 1: he had a quote, it's like, it's not it. We
1:34:29
Speaker 1: we used to just go in the back door and
1:34:31
Speaker 1: now we get to go on the front door. When
1:34:32
Speaker 1: he was talking about ni L so it's out there.
1:34:35
Speaker 1: He didn't bring your name.
1:34:36
Speaker 7: Up, but I know that.
1:34:37
Speaker 14: Se No, well, I didn't get that. I didn't get
1:34:40
Speaker 14: nothing like. As matter of fact, I got suspended for
1:34:44
Speaker 14: forty bucks and a meal after my Yeah, forty bucks
1:34:48
Speaker 14: in the meal because somehow it got out one night
1:34:51
Speaker 14: that I had a It was at our bowl.
1:34:54
Speaker 6: Game my freshman years. It was like the Cotton Bowl. Man,
1:34:59
Speaker 6: we had successful. It was fine.
1:35:01
Speaker 14: So I just felt like, man, just a little simple dinner.
1:35:03
Speaker 14: And you know, I get called into the office next
1:35:06
Speaker 14: in the spring and like, and they tell me they
1:35:08
Speaker 14: heard that I done took a meal and a little
1:35:11
Speaker 14: bit of money.
1:35:11
Speaker 6: I'm like, man, it's about eighty bucks.
1:35:13
Speaker 14: Like and so when I say, like, man, guys were
1:35:15
Speaker 14: getting paid like money, I would just have my stifling
1:35:18
Speaker 14: and maybe every blue moon you might get a handshake
1:35:23
Speaker 14: of you know, two hundred bucks or something. But man,
1:35:26
Speaker 14: I heard about what some other guys suppose allegedly got
1:35:29
Speaker 14: and I'm like, man, what did y'all know that I
1:35:32
Speaker 14: didn't know?
1:35:33
Speaker 6: Like, how were y'all getting money?
1:35:34
Speaker 1: Dude?
1:35:35
Speaker 6: How are you getting money?
1:35:35
Speaker 9: Like this?
1:35:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, the guys in the league and they'd be like
1:35:42
Speaker 1: I remember I starting doing a coach and I was like,
1:35:44
Speaker 1: they were like, how much did you ever get? And
1:35:45
Speaker 1: I was like, dude, the most I ever got was
1:35:47
Speaker 1: I got a sandwich in French fries at the Brown
1:35:50
Speaker 1: Jug and I went to go pay the bill like
1:35:52
Speaker 1: it's all good. I thought, Yeah, they say I'm living
1:35:57
Speaker 1: right now. But then the se guys are like, you
1:35:58
Speaker 1: just didn't ask the right people. You didn't you didn't
1:36:00
Speaker 1: make enough of a fuss about it, because I just thought,
1:36:03
Speaker 1: like we had Dinar Robinson, we had a bunch of
1:36:04
Speaker 1: we had a bunch of like high caliber college football players,
1:36:07
Speaker 1: but no one had like a nice car or nothing.
1:36:10
Speaker 1: But you look at like LSU and these other schools,
1:36:12
Speaker 1: guys are like Camaros and these nice things, and it's like,
1:36:15
Speaker 1: is somebody gonna like tell me, like, am I gonna
1:36:17
Speaker 1: get the Illuminati? Like how does this work? Man?
1:36:21
Speaker 14: They said that old miss was the Junkins and one
1:36:24
Speaker 14: I think it was junkins at the time when he's
1:36:26
Speaker 14: at Old Miss. But one of them was dropping like
1:36:28
Speaker 14: a Bentley, Like it was drawn like a Bentley or
1:36:32
Speaker 14: something like a real nice vehicle. Whatn on campus?
1:36:36
Speaker 6: And I'm just thinking to myself, I'm like, man, I
1:36:38
Speaker 6: remember the.
1:36:39
Speaker 14: Closest they got to. The closest I saw something like
1:36:41
Speaker 14: that was my rookie year with some of the seniors.
1:36:44
Speaker 14: One of the guy's dad was a politician, and so
1:36:47
Speaker 14: he had this range over but next thing you know,
1:36:49
Speaker 14: he went from having twenty two's having twenty fours. Another
1:36:52
Speaker 14: cat that was running back.
1:36:55
Speaker 6: He end up went from twenty twos to twenty sixes
1:36:57
Speaker 6: and they had like these really nice vehicles. And so
1:37:00
Speaker 6: the way everybody's kind of like, yeah, those ones getting
1:37:03
Speaker 6: like getting things. But I didn't get lucky like that really,
1:37:07
Speaker 6: which part was probably was a good thing because I
1:37:09
Speaker 6: think about it now and one of the things I
1:37:12
Speaker 6: you know, one of the things I think about a
1:37:15
Speaker 6: lot is how the young guys are getting all that
1:37:18
Speaker 6: money now. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm like, unless
1:37:22
Speaker 6: they are absolutely just beyond me, way smarter than I am,
1:37:27
Speaker 6: I say, boy, boy boy, if we can if we
1:37:30
Speaker 6: can get into the league and get money then and
1:37:34
Speaker 6: we don't experience that the downfalls or the until after
1:37:38
Speaker 6: it's gone. I can only imagine what these casts now
1:37:40
Speaker 6: that they're young making this at.
1:37:42
Speaker 14: Eighteen, getting this kind of money, and then at twenty
1:37:45
Speaker 14: two if you didn't do it right, man, it's gonna
1:37:48
Speaker 14: be it's gonna be a's gonna be a show.
1:37:50
Speaker 2: You make a good point too, because it's like the
1:37:52
Speaker 2: whole weather it's thirty for thirty or whatever. It is
1:37:54
Speaker 2: like seventy to eighty percent of guys go broke within
1:37:56
Speaker 2: five years of playing. And we're talking about grown man, adults,
1:37:59
Speaker 2: guys of families. It's like, yeah, you get put some
1:38:01
Speaker 2: of this money in the hands of even younger, younger cats,
1:38:04
Speaker 2: cats in college.
1:38:05
Speaker 1: Like it's not even guys in Polish you because like
1:38:08
Speaker 1: these five four star recruits that are juniors in high school.
1:38:10
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're getting deals.
1:38:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting deals. They have nil so they're making
1:38:14
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of dollars allegedly I don't know the exactly. Yeah, yeah,
1:38:18
Speaker 1: like at sixteen.
1:38:19
Speaker 2: Years old, which is something at the right people in
1:38:22
Speaker 2: the corner and.
1:38:23
Speaker 1: Like the lady knew me early in my career at
1:38:24
Speaker 1: the Titans. If I was getting paid money at Michigan,
1:38:27
Speaker 1: I would not be here today.
1:38:28
Speaker 6: It was definitely.
1:38:32
Speaker 1: How these cats not just go nuts? Because I firmly
1:38:36
Speaker 1: believe I would have been one of those dudes. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:38:40
Speaker 1: there's no question you're a different.
1:38:43
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're definitely a different person now. When I first
1:38:46
Speaker 5: met you, I yeah, yeah, it was fun. You could
1:38:48
Speaker 5: have money already. If you have money already coming in, like,
1:38:51
Speaker 5: oh my god, yeah yeah, how well.
1:38:54
Speaker 1: The parties would have been crazy. You grew up in Tennessee. Yeah,
1:38:57
Speaker 1: when you started to like really come on from a
1:38:59
Speaker 1: high schoo standpoint, what were like your top five of
1:39:03
Speaker 1: schools you were looking at that you're probably gonna go to.
1:39:06
Speaker 6: Man, you asked me a question that I wasn't even
1:39:10
Speaker 6: fortunate enough to even be have that kind of options.
1:39:13
Speaker 1: You were, what a two star, three three three star?
1:39:15
Speaker 6: Three star?
1:39:16
Speaker 14: And I and I and I was and I was
1:39:18
Speaker 14: recruited as a as an athlete, so not even as
1:39:20
Speaker 14: a as a linebacker. So it was almost like you
1:39:22
Speaker 14: couldn't really like is a linebacker? Cause I really I
1:39:26
Speaker 14: had to learn how to play linebacker, like be a lie. Yeah,
1:39:30
Speaker 14: you you played the position. But I had to learn
1:39:32
Speaker 14: how to be a linebacker, and it really I still
1:39:35
Speaker 14: didn't learn much until after I got to to the
1:39:39
Speaker 14: NFL with UH with coach Sing. But I saw to
1:39:41
Speaker 14: say growing up in Tennessee, man, you t balls like
1:39:45
Speaker 14: so growing up and I was born in eighty five,
1:39:47
Speaker 14: early nineties, you always see like Tennessee balls, Ohio State, Nebraska,
1:39:52
Speaker 14: you know, they would always be on TV. And I
1:39:54
Speaker 14: used to just sit and I would watching. I'm like, man,
1:39:57
Speaker 14: I can just get to one of those schools, like
1:39:59
Speaker 14: I know, I can get to the next next level.
1:40:01
Speaker 14: And so just as I begin to grow, I went
1:40:05
Speaker 14: from like in Ohio State and I was dig Andy
1:40:07
Speaker 14: Katsu Morgan to now I'm like, man, we have a
1:40:11
Speaker 14: Tennessee balls right here, like and if I can just
1:40:13
Speaker 14: play good enough ball, I can get up there.
1:40:15
Speaker 6: And here I am my junior year and I went
1:40:18
Speaker 6: up there. I'm sorry my senior year.
1:40:20
Speaker 14: Now, we had a guy my junior year, we had
1:40:22
Speaker 14: a guy who was being recruited running back, and so
1:40:24
Speaker 14: we went up there unofficial visit and I was like
1:40:27
Speaker 14: that was all the time. I was like, man, I
1:40:28
Speaker 14: gotta this is cool. If I can just get up
1:40:30
Speaker 14: here and get around this. You know, I was just
1:40:32
Speaker 14: tagging Alan They my senior year. I'm out there busting
1:40:36
Speaker 14: my tail like I'm running all over the field. I'm
1:40:41
Speaker 14: later on become the first person ever in history be
1:40:43
Speaker 14: nominated for both offense and defense mister football and one
1:40:46
Speaker 14: of a football in Tennessee, no way, playing both sides
1:40:50
Speaker 14: of the ball.
1:40:51
Speaker 6: And so here I am now.
1:40:53
Speaker 14: So that happens later, But during the middle of the season,
1:40:56
Speaker 14: I take two unofficial visits up to ut the valls.
1:41:00
Speaker 14: And my dad used always tell me when I was younger, said, boy,
1:41:02
Speaker 14: closed mouth, don't get fed. He would just say that
1:41:04
Speaker 14: in general, like or something. So I'm up here and
1:41:07
Speaker 14: I noticed the coaches my second time. I noticed all
1:41:09
Speaker 14: the coaches are talking to everybody else, and but nobody's
1:41:12
Speaker 14: coming over and saying anything to me.
1:41:13
Speaker 6: And I'm like, I just ran for.
1:41:14
Speaker 14: Three touchdown, i just had sixteen tackles like interception, and
1:41:18
Speaker 14: I'm not even getting a you know, conversation. So I
1:41:20
Speaker 14: asked to coach coach Barry at the time, I said, coach,
1:41:23
Speaker 14: watch nobody not you know, speaking to me. He says, truthfully,
1:41:27
Speaker 14: we're recruiting two other linebackers and those two linebackers were
1:41:30
Speaker 14: damn good linebackers and they played at five. They played
1:41:32
Speaker 14: five a ball. I only played one. I played one
1:41:34
Speaker 14: a ball, and so five is the biggest you can play.
1:41:37
Speaker 14: And so they was recruiting Daniel Brooks and Ernie Simms.
1:41:40
Speaker 6: And you know what I'm saying. So, but I felt
1:41:44
Speaker 6: like being I always where I come from.
1:41:47
Speaker 14: It's like you always had the underdog mentality where it
1:41:49
Speaker 14: was kind of like you come from a small town.
1:41:50
Speaker 6: So he just look up on you.
1:41:51
Speaker 14: So in my mind, I'm thinking, list, I don't crypt
1:41:54
Speaker 14: they go to a father here and not just put
1:41:55
Speaker 14: us in a room. Unlet's see who walks like walks out.
1:42:00
Speaker 1: In my mind, it always comes back.
1:42:05
Speaker 14: So he tells me, he tells me, he tells me,
1:42:07
Speaker 14: he said, so we're not really interested in you, and
1:42:09
Speaker 14: we also don't know if you're going to take it
1:42:11
Speaker 14: and make your act scores. So three hour four of
1:42:15
Speaker 14: a five hour drive home, three hours I cried. I
1:42:18
Speaker 14: was like, man, I've been told i I'm not wanted,
1:42:21
Speaker 14: Like how could I do? How could I be balling
1:42:22
Speaker 14: out like this? And they're not interested in my foster
1:42:26
Speaker 14: Dad said, I said, why don't you wipe up those
1:42:28
Speaker 14: tears and go play at the school that plays against them.
1:42:30
Speaker 14: And at that moment I was like, yeah, I can
1:42:33
Speaker 14: do that. But then the only thing was and then
1:42:35
Speaker 14: right at the same moment, I was like, wait, ain't
1:42:38
Speaker 14: nobody really recruiting me. Nobody's recruiting me that plays against
1:42:42
Speaker 14: them other than uh Comfort, other than Memphis Tigers and
1:42:47
Speaker 14: MTSU because they would play them as pick up games.
1:42:49
Speaker 14: I was like, well, maybe I can go there, and
1:42:51
Speaker 14: we played them as a pickup game. When they pick us,
1:42:54
Speaker 14: they picked to play us as a pickup game. Said
1:42:56
Speaker 14: maybe I can show them. Then That's what I was thinking.
1:42:58
Speaker 14: But then I ultimately say, I'm just gonna control what
1:43:00
Speaker 14: I can control.
1:43:01
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go back.
1:43:02
Speaker 14: I'm gonna stay, you know, focused in school, on the
1:43:04
Speaker 14: football field, and then out of nowhere, old miss pops
1:43:08
Speaker 14: up and coming from where I come from at anybody,
1:43:11
Speaker 14: just I won't say anybody, but just getting some love
1:43:14
Speaker 14: from a bigger school, people that showed that they were interesting,
1:43:18
Speaker 14: that they was willing to stand behind you because I did,
1:43:20
Speaker 14: I done my school work, I went to school. But man,
1:43:22
Speaker 14: it was something about taking those big old tests, the
1:43:24
Speaker 14: big I had a hard time taking them inn so
1:43:27
Speaker 14: I had to take it five times. And but within
1:43:30
Speaker 14: me taking those five times, I remember this scout from
1:43:33
Speaker 14: Ole Miss coach Matt mc intyre. He said, you know,
1:43:36
Speaker 14: regardless of whatever, regardless of what happens with this, he said,
1:43:39
Speaker 14: We're gonna stand behind you, even even if you have
1:43:41
Speaker 14: to go to a jew code, we would be there
1:43:44
Speaker 14: for you when you get out. I didn't understandw recruiting
1:43:45
Speaker 14: and stuff. I just felt like, man, they really about me.
1:43:48
Speaker 14: And so I ended up getting my ACT score. And
1:43:53
Speaker 14: at the same time, the SEC had just changed the
1:43:56
Speaker 14: grading scale from an eighteen to a seventeen that year,
1:44:00
Speaker 14: and that's when I was like, man, it must be
1:44:02
Speaker 14: fade on my side. But went to Old Miss, and
1:44:04
Speaker 14: if I had to do it all over again, I
1:44:06
Speaker 14: would go back to Old Miss.
1:44:07
Speaker 1: Man.
1:44:07
Speaker 14: That's how much I really enjoyed being an Old Miss.
1:44:10
Speaker 14: I mean, it was absolutely amazing. And I knew the
1:44:11
Speaker 14: day that I was gonna go to Old Miss was
1:44:14
Speaker 14: on my official visit. We walked across and they had
1:44:16
Speaker 14: this what they call walker Champions, so something like they
1:44:19
Speaker 14: do with Tennessee, and we walk across that Walker Champions
1:44:22
Speaker 14: and my guys, it was so much beauty.
1:44:26
Speaker 6: The camps didn't feel like.
1:44:30
Speaker 14: Across the campus, and I'm like, I'm a be late.
1:44:32
Speaker 14: I'm like, how do you get from there? And then
1:44:37
Speaker 14: so I go to I go to Old Miss and
1:44:38
Speaker 14: everything is like boom boom boom and out. And you
1:44:41
Speaker 14: guys have heard this saying when you know you know.
1:44:43
Speaker 14: I don't know if you guys ever had that in
1:44:45
Speaker 14: your moment, I mean your life. But I've had a
1:44:47
Speaker 14: couple of moments where when you know you knew. And
1:44:51
Speaker 14: I remember I walked across that campus and.
1:44:53
Speaker 6: I heard them say we love you Eli, we love
1:44:57
Speaker 6: you Mike, and I was man and cross. I'm like, man,
1:45:02
Speaker 6: this could be the I'm saying this about me.
1:45:04
Speaker 14: And I remember I said, I'm coming to school here,
1:45:07
Speaker 14: and like I said, if I had to do it
1:45:08
Speaker 14: all over again, I would I would go back to Omens.
1:45:10
Speaker 14: So I say that to say I only had I
1:45:12
Speaker 14: didn't really have it. I had Nai A schools, but
1:45:15
Speaker 14: no real big schools that were interested. So maybe that
1:45:19
Speaker 14: was just more fuel for the fire.
1:45:21
Speaker 2: When did you know that division and football in a
1:45:24
Speaker 2: future of football was a possibility because you mentioned your
1:45:27
Speaker 2: foster dad. Obviously, like if anybody who caught your e
1:45:30
Speaker 2: sixty back in the day. Uh kind of understands the
1:45:33
Speaker 2: upbringing that you had. Were you and how many siblings.
1:45:35
Speaker 6: Did you have?
1:45:36
Speaker 2: It was four of us, four of you guys, and
1:45:38
Speaker 2: then you you leave your dad's place to go to
1:45:41
Speaker 2: your foster dad and live with it. That was your coach, right, Like,
1:45:44
Speaker 2: was that the transitional time where you kind of knew
1:45:47
Speaker 2: this family is looking out for you to get to
1:45:49
Speaker 2: get out? Because you spoke very early in the episode,
1:45:51
Speaker 2: were you talked about the fear of failure, the fear
1:45:52
Speaker 2: of like getting out. Was that kind of the transitional
1:45:55
Speaker 2: moment to where it's like, hey, I can be something
1:45:57
Speaker 2: more than where I'm at right now.
1:45:58
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say, yeah it was. I always kind
1:46:03
Speaker 14: of had something inside that was like, man, I just
1:46:06
Speaker 14: I want more than this.
1:46:07
Speaker 6: I think there's more. I always had to imagine.
1:46:09
Speaker 14: My imagination was just big, Like growing up in the South,
1:46:11
Speaker 14: it's you guys know, being in Tennessee, like it's just
1:46:14
Speaker 14: nothing but woods. I didn't I didn't have I wo
1:46:16
Speaker 14: wasn't around the city or whatnot, So it was just
1:46:19
Speaker 14: a town and pretty much spent most of my time
1:46:21
Speaker 14: in the woods, playing, running, jumping, Ditches and saying I'm
1:46:26
Speaker 14: Michael Urban, I'm Emmi Smith. I grew up a diehard
1:46:28
Speaker 14: Cowboys fan, and so that was pretty much me. But
1:46:32
Speaker 14: it was always something inside that I felt like, man, like,
1:46:35
Speaker 14: I want to I want to be special. Like I
1:46:37
Speaker 14: don't know if it was just watching like Colombo or
1:46:40
Speaker 14: Matt Locke, but they just seemed like they were special
1:46:42
Speaker 14: to me, or just those figures that you would watch on.
1:46:44
Speaker 6: TV be like, man, that's a cool guy.
1:46:46
Speaker 1: Man, I can just be like you go to a
1:46:48
Speaker 1: movie as a kid trying to.
1:46:51
Speaker 14: So so I told myself, I was like, I just
1:46:53
Speaker 14: want to be I just want to be special. And
1:46:56
Speaker 14: not only that, I also wanted to be a genius.
1:46:58
Speaker 14: I don't know if y'all remember that that movie Powder,
1:47:01
Speaker 14: the guy that that was super smart or what not
1:47:04
Speaker 14: and got struck by Yeah, I thought so.
1:47:07
Speaker 1: As a kid, it sounds like a something there's an
1:47:10
Speaker 1: age gap here, but you like, yeah, man, well I
1:47:17
Speaker 1: get just tell open we yep this one.
1:47:20
Speaker 6: Man.
1:47:21
Speaker 14: So I say that to say, like, so as I
1:47:23
Speaker 14: wanted to be special, whether it was engineer, whether it
1:47:26
Speaker 14: was just I didn't want to just be a guy
1:47:29
Speaker 14: that could play football and then not have any not
1:47:32
Speaker 14: have any brains, and so again given just want to
1:47:36
Speaker 14: be special. And then also my situation growing up, you know,
1:47:40
Speaker 14: single single parents, my parents split when they were when
1:47:43
Speaker 14: I was super young, but growing up mostly with my dad,
1:47:46
Speaker 14: my brother, and then just having the feeling like maybe
1:47:50
Speaker 14: it's object what do you call it object poverty or whatnot.
1:47:55
Speaker 14: You know, you're looking outside and you see other people
1:47:57
Speaker 14: have you know, other things. You don't have running water
1:48:00
Speaker 14: ten you eight years old, and I just like, man,
1:48:02
Speaker 14: maybe if we just had more money, you know, things
1:48:05
Speaker 14: will be things will be better.
1:48:07
Speaker 6: And so I just remember being in the sixth grade.
1:48:11
Speaker 6: This this was this was the moment.
1:48:13
Speaker 14: I was in the sixth grade, six and eighth grade.
1:48:14
Speaker 14: I was in sixth grade, and I heard my teacher
1:48:16
Speaker 14: talking about retiring and I was like, man, like you
1:48:19
Speaker 14: inside you got the nice weather, like my dad, and
1:48:22
Speaker 14: they outside they working, they logging. I was like, man,
1:48:26
Speaker 14: what can I do to where I can cut down
1:48:28
Speaker 14: the time to where I can you know, and so
1:48:31
Speaker 14: what can I do in life that will be able
1:48:33
Speaker 14: to allow me to take care of my family and
1:48:34
Speaker 14: have a good life when I grow up? And I
1:48:37
Speaker 14: just remember thinking I was like, man, as much as
1:48:40
Speaker 14: I like coming to school. This school stuff is hard. Man,
1:48:43
Speaker 14: I don't know how. I don't know how they doing
1:48:45
Speaker 14: this one. I don't know how they this smart. I
1:48:47
Speaker 14: was like, so I soa I started doing process of elimination.
1:48:50
Speaker 14: I said, but man, this sports things. I was like,
1:48:53
Speaker 14: I tend to be able to pick this up like
1:48:55
Speaker 14: pretty well, and I can figure it out, you know, like,
1:48:58
Speaker 14: And so I was like, so I gave myself two
1:49:00
Speaker 14: options that day. I said, if I do it right,
1:49:03
Speaker 14: I can play. If I do it right, I can
1:49:05
Speaker 14: become this professional athlete, and I can save my money.
1:49:08
Speaker 14: And then by the time I'm thirty, I be able
1:49:10
Speaker 14: to retire and I still have life to live. I
1:49:12
Speaker 14: was like, because I didn't understand how you be sixty
1:49:14
Speaker 14: or seventy and you retired then die.
1:49:17
Speaker 7: I'm like, hey, that's so real though.
1:49:22
Speaker 1: It's like you work forever and then all of a sudden,
1:49:24
Speaker 1: it's like what do I have next? Like five years?
1:49:25
Speaker 6: Man, As a kid, you know, it just.
1:49:29
Speaker 14: Always I was like, man, something just ain't right. So
1:49:31
Speaker 14: I was like, you know what, I'm gonna give everything
1:49:33
Speaker 14: I have in this first one, and if I fall short,
1:49:35
Speaker 14: I said, man, I know how to get it.
1:49:37
Speaker 6: I go get me a job.
1:49:38
Speaker 14: I said, I will work it as hard as I
1:49:39
Speaker 14: can and to be the very best I could be,
1:49:41
Speaker 14: as if I was a football player. And I guess
1:49:44
Speaker 14: when I'm sixty and seventy, I be able to retire
1:49:46
Speaker 14: and get me a John Jon boat and fish fishing
1:49:49
Speaker 14: Tennessee River. I was like, but if I do it right, man,
1:49:51
Speaker 14: I'm gonna be able to get me a nice boat.
1:49:52
Speaker 14: And then by thirty and so I fast forward at
1:49:56
Speaker 14: twenty nine, I was able to retire, had more money
1:50:02
Speaker 14: than I could, you know, think of. I went and
1:50:05
Speaker 14: bought me a boat. I fished a little while, and
1:50:08
Speaker 14: then real life jumps on me. So all that to say, like, man,
1:50:14
Speaker 14: it was just yeah, it was just moments in time
1:50:16
Speaker 14: where you just feel like you wanted to be something
1:50:18
Speaker 14: special and you wanted more, and it was like what
1:50:20
Speaker 14: do I need to do?
1:50:21
Speaker 6: What can I do to do that?
1:50:23
Speaker 14: And the other The one last thing was eighth grade year.
1:50:28
Speaker 14: My gudes is cancellor. She's you know, you had to
1:50:30
Speaker 14: pick the curriculums like you're gonna go university dual or
1:50:34
Speaker 14: or vocational. And I remember everybody raised their hand. It
1:50:39
Speaker 14: was only so in my class, I graduated with forty people.
1:50:41
Speaker 14: Forty two people was my in my senior year. My
1:50:44
Speaker 14: school was K through twelve and so I had a
1:50:46
Speaker 14: small K K.
1:50:50
Speaker 6: Building.
1:50:51
Speaker 1: But the way pat lived his life, man, he was
1:50:52
Speaker 1: living like nineteen forty seven gas lanterns and stuff like that,
1:50:58
Speaker 1: walking around like.
1:51:00
Speaker 14: That like where you look around, like I said, everybody
1:51:02
Speaker 14: else would have like central heat, but we still, like
1:51:05
Speaker 14: I said, I didn't have running water until I was eight,
1:51:08
Speaker 14: So we were still didn't have like you know, running
1:51:11
Speaker 14: water at times.
1:51:11
Speaker 1: And so.
1:51:14
Speaker 14: I'm in eighth grade, were doing the doing, having to
1:51:16
Speaker 14: pick the curriculums or whatnot. And I never forget she asked,
1:51:19
Speaker 14: She asked, all forty was and it's only in the
1:51:22
Speaker 14: class of forty. It was only like five black black
1:51:24
Speaker 14: kids in that in my in my grade. And I
1:51:27
Speaker 14: noticed when she asked about vocational all of them raised
1:51:29
Speaker 14: their hands all but me raised my hand cause I
1:51:33
Speaker 14: want to look. I want to see, like all right,
1:51:35
Speaker 14: like who's.
1:51:35
Speaker 6: Gonna pick what? You know, what's the best one? Because
1:51:37
Speaker 6: I wouldn't preeve me to.
1:51:39
Speaker 14: I knew, I always knew about being a hard work
1:51:41
Speaker 14: and those things, but I didn't know these different paths
1:51:43
Speaker 14: you could you could take. I saw her to say
1:51:46
Speaker 14: something about dual. Then all of a sudden, I saw
1:51:49
Speaker 14: university and I saw most of the most of the
1:51:51
Speaker 14: white kids. All of them raised their hand and I
1:51:53
Speaker 14: was like, wait, wait a minute, I want to go
1:51:54
Speaker 14: to college too, like I want to I want to
1:51:56
Speaker 14: be able to go, you know, get an education and
1:51:59
Speaker 14: be smart. And so I asked the teacher, I said,
1:52:01
Speaker 14: excuse me, can you explain which one of these? Can
1:52:03
Speaker 14: you explain each one of these to me again? And
1:52:05
Speaker 14: then she just asked me.
1:52:05
Speaker 6: She said, well, well, what do you want to be
1:52:07
Speaker 6: when you grow up?
1:52:09
Speaker 14: And I said, well, first I had two answers, but
1:52:11
Speaker 14: she didn't give me a chance to say that for
1:52:13
Speaker 14: a second. One I said, well, first I want to
1:52:15
Speaker 14: be a professional athlete. And I said first, I want
1:52:18
Speaker 14: to be a professional athlete playing it. And before I
1:52:21
Speaker 14: can get that out, she was like, well, you know,
1:52:23
Speaker 14: less than one one percent makes it. And at the point,
1:52:27
Speaker 14: and at that time I felt like she was kind
1:52:29
Speaker 14: of I don't know, kind of I don't know squash
1:52:33
Speaker 14: and trying to say trying to squash.
1:52:37
Speaker 6: Yeah.
1:52:37
Speaker 14: But but now that I'm older, I understand these statistics.
1:52:40
Speaker 14: I understand like how significant, like less than one percent,
1:52:43
Speaker 14: like you got to be in to, like, you know,
1:52:46
Speaker 14: achieve that, and especially looking back now on like the path.
1:52:49
Speaker 14: But I sat in front of the whole class when
1:52:50
Speaker 14: she said that, she didn't give me a chance. He
1:52:52
Speaker 14: would say, well, second, you know, if that doesn't work,
1:52:55
Speaker 14: then I'll just be a firefighter or a police person.
1:52:58
Speaker 6: And you know I'm gonna get everything I have.
1:53:00
Speaker 14: And so when she's so anyways, when she says that,
1:53:04
Speaker 14: I sat in front of the whole classroom, I said,
1:53:07
Speaker 14: because my dad, I had to say it right, because
1:53:09
Speaker 14: my dad, I grew up with a dad that you
1:53:10
Speaker 14: got to be respectful to all your elders or whatnot,
1:53:13
Speaker 14: no matter what right, wrong and different, like you don't
1:53:15
Speaker 14: talk back, you don't be smart and smartmouth and all
1:53:17
Speaker 14: that kind of stuff. And I said, well, with all
1:53:20
Speaker 14: due respect, I guess I'll be in that less than
1:53:23
Speaker 14: one percent. I said it in front of all forty,
1:53:26
Speaker 14: all the little forty we had. But I remember when
1:53:29
Speaker 14: I said that, how convicted I was when I said it,
1:53:31
Speaker 14: But how I knew I had to stand on it.
1:53:33
Speaker 14: And so from that point on I already went harder
1:53:36
Speaker 14: with anything we did when we was young.
1:53:37
Speaker 6: Because it was just what it was.
1:53:39
Speaker 14: But from that moment on, everything I did was to
1:53:43
Speaker 14: take me to where I said I was going to go.
1:53:45
Speaker 14: So that's why when it came to the act when
1:53:48
Speaker 14: they say like we don't want you, I was like, man,
1:53:50
Speaker 14: but y'all don't understand.
1:53:52
Speaker 6: I have this vision.
1:53:52
Speaker 14: I saw this vision when I was younger, and there
1:53:55
Speaker 14: was another moment. But I'm not I won't bore y'all
1:53:57
Speaker 14: with those But.
1:53:57
Speaker 1: Yeah, nobody, everything you're saying, respect.
1:54:03
Speaker 2: I'm sitting there feeling like I'm watching a goddamn movie.
1:54:05
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I'm thinking, what is the teacher? What's her
1:54:08
Speaker 1: reaction to that? Yeah, and that's all happening.
1:54:10
Speaker 2: It just gets quiet.
1:54:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the kids probably snicker in the back,
1:54:13
Speaker 1: like making it like oh yeah, sure, buddy, whatever. There's
1:54:16
Speaker 1: always gonna be a doubt or here and there. But yeah,
1:54:18
Speaker 1: that's the start of the movie.
1:54:19
Speaker 5: How many people went to the NFL or from college
1:54:22
Speaker 5: to went to a university? From your school, high school,
1:54:25
Speaker 5: uh that that you know of before you or after
1:54:29
Speaker 5: you they went to uh a university or made it
1:54:32
Speaker 5: to the NFL. Are you the only person that made
1:54:34
Speaker 5: it to the NFL from your high school only person.
1:54:36
Speaker 14: But then then, but I'd always hear before that, I
1:54:39
Speaker 14: would always hear there was one other guy who one
1:54:41
Speaker 14: of other one or two guys who had when they
1:54:44
Speaker 14: made like the practice squad, but they were only there
1:54:47
Speaker 14: for like a moment, and I just remember saying like, man,
1:54:50
Speaker 14: like I'm gonna be that one, like I'm gonna do it,
1:54:53
Speaker 14: and a lot.
1:54:54
Speaker 6: Of hatitudo and a lot of it.
1:54:56
Speaker 14: I felt like too, like you're carrying a weight of
1:54:58
Speaker 14: so many others who I wasn't the most talented. I
1:55:01
Speaker 14: wouldn't I wasn't the fastest, I wouldn't the biggest. Like
1:55:04
Speaker 14: there was the other guy that you saw that he's like, yep,
1:55:06
Speaker 14: he's going You look at me and like you know,
1:55:09
Speaker 14: he goes hard, he tries hard.
1:55:10
Speaker 1: But you talk about high school, yeah, and just coming
1:55:14
Speaker 1: out of the draft, yeah, but you see you in
1:55:21
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ.
1:55:22
Speaker 6: But even in the sports, even the draft, though even
1:55:25
Speaker 6: coming out for the draft, man they had I never
1:55:28
Speaker 6: forget they had talked bad about me. I call all
1:55:31
Speaker 6: the scribs, all the scribs.
1:55:32
Speaker 14: And pundits they were saying, they were saying, like he's
1:55:35
Speaker 14: not a he's not an every down backer. You know,
1:55:37
Speaker 14: he can't play third down, can't play third down?
1:55:40
Speaker 6: Yeah, who show?
1:55:44
Speaker 1: You know the movie is over, He's want and so yeah.
1:55:52
Speaker 14: So they were saying that, and then then at that time,
1:55:56
Speaker 14: you know, you had guys like Paul Pulsi, John Beason,
1:55:59
Speaker 14: these all, I mean, they are good, good players. But
1:56:03
Speaker 14: I remember, like it was yesterday being an API and
1:56:07
Speaker 14: I remember saying myself after hearing like all of them
1:56:10
Speaker 14: say what they were saying, He's not.
1:56:11
Speaker 6: This, he's not that.
1:56:13
Speaker 14: You know, we getting ready for you know, getting ready
1:56:15
Speaker 14: to start training. And I remember I said to myself,
1:56:18
Speaker 14: I said, when it's all said and done, I will
1:56:21
Speaker 14: be the first linebacker taking. And every single day I
1:56:25
Speaker 14: worked to be just that. Even after the combine was over,
1:56:31
Speaker 14: a lot of guys, I'm arrest I'm gonna go, you know,
1:56:34
Speaker 14: go back to my hometown. I went right back to
1:56:36
Speaker 14: API and I kept on working. So when I went
1:56:38
Speaker 14: to my pro day, I knew I was like prommed
1:56:41
Speaker 14: and ready. And when they called my name on draft
1:56:45
Speaker 14: day and I was the first linebacker taking, those were
1:56:48
Speaker 14: moments where I was like, man, I said I was
1:56:50
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1:56:55
Speaker 14: it just been Yeah, it was just moments like like those.
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Speaker 14: As as as I wanted to be all like excited,
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Speaker 14: gotta go. We gotta go make something happen. And when
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Speaker 14: it's all said and done, I want to be you know,
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Speaker 14: I want to be a good linebacker. But the greatness
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Speaker 14: part didn't come into after my after my our rookie
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Speaker 14: training well, my rookie training camp, Well, the first day
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Speaker 14: of practice. I've told this story before, but the first
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Speaker 6: I was like, man, they cut me rookie.
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Speaker 1: Mintamp, rookie rookie Camp eleven. Isn't it crazy? Like saying
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Speaker 1: that knowing like there.
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Speaker 6: Was no shot get cut and see I didn't. I didn't.
1:59:26
Speaker 6: I didn't know that it wasn't a shot in that game.
1:59:29
Speaker 1: Same literally I did ot as my rookie year and
1:59:32
Speaker 1: be like, yeah that day, like I might not be
1:59:34
Speaker 1: here when you like go talk talk an older guy
1:59:37
Speaker 1: like hey, you think I'm good, They're like, you're an idiot.
1:59:39
Speaker 1: I was bro your first.
1:59:43
Speaker 2: Hearing them sit there talking to the back same, I'm thinking.
1:59:46
Speaker 1: One of these guys. But it's it's so real because
1:59:50
Speaker 1: you're just but it's not real. It is in your
1:59:52
Speaker 1: mind you cause you get drafted super high and you're like,
1:59:55
Speaker 1: what an amazing moment. But then you immediately go to
1:59:57
Speaker 1: this and then there's all expectations, all the coaches. You
1:59:59
Speaker 1: go from we were saying where Tennessee's like, we don't
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Speaker 1: now like only people want to talk to you because
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Speaker 1: first practice and you're not good in the first practice.
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Speaker 1: You're kind of get thrown around a little bit, and
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Speaker 1: you're like, oh my god, they just think they made
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Speaker 5: Because at this time too rookie minni camp, some of
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Speaker 5: us is there the news that gotta get better, Gotta
2:00:27
Speaker 5: go show up to the Mickey rookie mini camp, so
2:00:30
Speaker 5: I will be something. I was one of those guys,
2:00:32
Speaker 5: So I had to show up because they like, yo,
2:00:34
Speaker 5: you second your guys. Yeah you second year guy, you
2:00:37
Speaker 5: ain't no starter.
2:00:37
Speaker 1: You know.
2:00:38
Speaker 5: We had Billy Beajima and then Vernon David still at
2:00:40
Speaker 5: tight end, so it's like, come on, show up.
2:00:44
Speaker 1: As a second year guy. Bro. I had to do
2:00:46
Speaker 1: the second year mini camp shit.
2:00:48
Speaker 2: Too, But I was tight bro. It was honestly one
2:00:51
Speaker 2: of the best things that could have happened. Yeah, because
2:00:54
Speaker 2: they focus on you, like the coaching stept that's there.
2:00:57
Speaker 2: They're like, hey, you know, everything on the drafted was
2:00:59
Speaker 2: Trim Murphy was an outside pass rusher, so decordinated linebacker culture, like, hey,
2:01:04
Speaker 2: you get to yeah, you get all the reps.
2:01:05
Speaker 6: All the reps.
2:01:06
Speaker 5: So when when camp do start, I'm on point, on point,
2:01:09
Speaker 5: I'm on point, I'm Chris.
2:01:12
Speaker 1: It's just mind bowing to me that just knowing the
2:01:15
Speaker 1: career that I knew with you, You're a cat that
2:01:17
Speaker 1: had to go to a second year mini rookie minnic Yeah,
2:01:20
Speaker 1: that's nuts. Like Dlanny was like the only guy when
2:01:24
Speaker 1: I got to the Titans. But you you the roster
2:01:27
Speaker 1: was solid when you guys got there. You had a
2:01:29
Speaker 1: good team. Oh buddy, their roster. Yeah, you guys were dialed.
2:01:32
Speaker 6: I walked in.
2:01:33
Speaker 5: What we wasn't as dialed when you first came in.
2:01:36
Speaker 5: But it was a lot of veterans. Yeah, we had
2:01:42
Speaker 5: Brian Young, uh, Larry Allen, Yeah, Jonas Jennings, Chris Swing Smiley.
2:01:54
Speaker 5: We we had a gang of vets when we came in.
2:01:57
Speaker 5: I mean we were surrounded by eight year dudes, eight
2:02:02
Speaker 5: nine year dudes.
2:02:03
Speaker 1: Like, so that's a point that like when when I
2:02:06
Speaker 1: got to the Titans, like there was you and like
2:02:08
Speaker 1: Michael Russ.
2:02:09
Speaker 5: And that was like that's there's your big country.
2:02:12
Speaker 1: Still there, no big country? He retired.
2:02:15
Speaker 5: Yeah, I got you got there. So yeah, it was
2:02:17
Speaker 5: only like three three because Rob Baroness was there.
2:02:21
Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, so three of us three older dudes.
2:02:24
Speaker 2: Bro, how about the defense that you got to play with,
2:02:28
Speaker 2: Like looking back, like you remember when they're breaking down.
2:02:31
Speaker 2: I remember watching on like whether it's Monday, and I
2:02:33
Speaker 2: thought you guys were playing a.
2:02:33
Speaker 1: Prime time game. They talked so highly.
2:02:35
Speaker 2: How well, because I got to play for Tom Sula
2:02:37
Speaker 2: Minusk in Washington. Minusky was our decordinator and Tom Sulu
2:02:41
Speaker 2: was our deca line coach. Obviously legends legends and how
2:02:45
Speaker 2: they played to where you know the edge, like you're
2:02:47
Speaker 2: setting the edge. So as a backer, you never you know,
2:02:49
Speaker 2: as Tom Sula say, you never get your cock to
2:02:51
Speaker 2: the side. Turn around, tell your linebacker because you watch
2:02:55
Speaker 2: you watch film as the front seven together, tell the
2:02:57
Speaker 2: linemen to turn around and say look at Patrick, Will,
2:02:59
Speaker 2: look at Will. Just tell them fuck you because you're
2:03:01
Speaker 2: giving up the edge and now they got to look
2:03:03
Speaker 2: stupid trying to chase the sideline. But they would always
2:03:06
Speaker 2: talk about how you guys could stop the run with
2:03:08
Speaker 2: the two shell Look, I mean you had you said
2:03:11
Speaker 2: the name earlier, Ray McDonald, Justin Smith, alten Small, LaVar
2:03:14
Speaker 2: Oh Bowman, Deshaun Goldson, Hitner, Chris Cully.
2:03:18
Speaker 6: Chris Cully.
2:03:19
Speaker 1: You know that defense was insane.
2:03:22
Speaker 5: Sae Rogers, Carlos Rogers.
2:03:24
Speaker 1: Yes, for this side, Oh my god.
2:03:27
Speaker 14: I think I think the foundation of it though, was
2:03:30
Speaker 14: built in those years that we were not winning, because
2:03:34
Speaker 14: a lot of people don't realize even though we were
2:03:35
Speaker 14: not winning, we didn't give up one hundred yard rush. Ye,
2:03:38
Speaker 14: And in those four seasons. It wasn't til twenty eleven
2:03:41
Speaker 14: when Marshawn got one hundred and six yards on this whatnot.
2:03:45
Speaker 14: And that's when we kind of lost that cause we
2:03:48
Speaker 14: somehow we got the name steamrollers because like, I don't
2:03:51
Speaker 14: know how, I don't honestly, I don't even know what
2:03:53
Speaker 14: it where it came from, but that's how like tight was.
2:03:56
Speaker 6: But we worked on it every single day.
2:04:00
Speaker 14: Like everything we did, like from the fits and everything
2:04:04
Speaker 14: he said, we knew like we knew from if something
2:04:07
Speaker 14: got wide, we knew who didn't hold it. We knew
2:04:09
Speaker 14: who didn't hold the point. If if if them double
2:04:12
Speaker 14: teams were not coming up, if them double teams were
2:04:14
Speaker 14: not coming up, just then when he would he would
2:04:16
Speaker 14: he would come to the sideline and he'd.
2:04:17
Speaker 6: Be like, you fuckers ain't moving, are you?
2:04:19
Speaker 12: Like?
2:04:20
Speaker 6: That was like, what you mean sometimes depends on who
2:04:24
Speaker 6: you playing, man, you gotta shows were planning at Chris Johnson,
2:04:27
Speaker 6: man playing against him.
2:04:29
Speaker 1: God, you gotta get into a hall.
2:04:31
Speaker 6: Yeah, he'd be going and whatnot.
2:04:36
Speaker 14: And so yeah, we mean it was That's what I
2:04:38
Speaker 14: was saying earlier, is that the better like to come
2:04:41
Speaker 14: back now and just you know, just show up and
2:04:43
Speaker 14: be like, yeah, you might go out there and make
2:04:45
Speaker 14: a tackle and stuff, but it's nothing like playing with
2:04:47
Speaker 14: a group of guys who truly understand like the fit
2:04:51
Speaker 14: and understand like how significant it is to like not
2:04:54
Speaker 14: just run around to say I'm just gonna do this
2:04:56
Speaker 14: for me, but really understand, like man, I to stick
2:04:59
Speaker 14: my neck and here and hold his double teen or
2:05:01
Speaker 14: come off this edge and like smack this guy. So
2:05:04
Speaker 14: it doesn't so it doesn't get wild for our guys
2:05:06
Speaker 14: and that's why I'll always have respect for Man, especially
2:05:10
Speaker 14: those guys early on Manny lost in my pe Town,
2:05:16
Speaker 14: r r p P Town, just that whole defensive front
2:05:20
Speaker 14: because again, like Man, we was a lot of people
2:05:22
Speaker 14: don't talk about it, but we were stopping to run.
2:05:25
Speaker 6: So for four years we didn't allow one hundred yard
2:05:28
Speaker 6: Russia and we did that with a seven man box.
2:05:30
Speaker 1: Seven man box.
2:05:31
Speaker 2: So when I'm talking, I've talked to you at times
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Speaker 2: about like the two guys in the two gap system,
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Speaker 2: like being so dill you being in it? Like you
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Speaker 2: would sit there any coach I had you. We never
2:05:41
Speaker 2: had Front seven meetings like true Front seven where you're
2:05:44
Speaker 2: kind of meeting a field like multiple times a week
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Speaker 2: with under Manusky and Tom Sula was the only time
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Speaker 2: where it's like you have the defense sitting in there
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Speaker 2: watching run fits and watching everything to where everybody understands
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Speaker 2: everybody's job, to where if Pete Willis is reloading a
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Speaker 2: front or moving guys over a lot of the times
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Speaker 2: you don't even have to do that because the D
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Speaker 2: line is so in tune with if they're in like
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Speaker 2: an ace pair of trips, look, or if he's tanked,
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Speaker 2: or if he motions over the d line knows okay,
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go from a tight three to I might
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Speaker 2: go into a two y. And it's literally, it's literally
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Speaker 2: just like on the stripe. It's not like a loose
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Speaker 2: three to go into a two y. You're just moving
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Speaker 2: one little step and they have to get their hands on.
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Speaker 2: They have to punch or hit that little drop step
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Speaker 2: when they take on a.
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Speaker 1: Power and the backers.
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Speaker 2: The backers have to press a gap to get guys'
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Speaker 2: eyes to come up. So hey, if he comes up,
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Speaker 2: now you're clear to fall back. The edge has gotta
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Speaker 2: be set. But the entire operation was because like again Anusky,
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Speaker 2: Tom Sula, those coaches that we had, which I know
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Speaker 2: were with your steps. You're you're sitting there watching like
2:06:43
Speaker 2: as a defense together and when somebody would fuck up.
2:06:45
Speaker 2: You know Tom Sully, he was a massive joke.
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Speaker 6: So he's awesome.
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Speaker 1: It's Italian guy. I got the chain's got.
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Speaker 2: The unbut and everything talk about you wanted to know
2:06:51
Speaker 2: a way to double your money. He pull out his
2:06:53
Speaker 2: money and then just fold it half it back. Now
2:06:54
Speaker 2: you put it in halfy and just put it back
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Speaker 2: in your pocket.
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Speaker 5: Beat some beer.
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Speaker 2: They'd be in the locker room after practice, you'd have
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Speaker 2: a cold beer with them, but you would watch everything
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Speaker 2: as a defense together. And that was like the only
2:07:07
Speaker 2: time where I felt like as a defense that was
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Speaker 2: the only staff to where we did that and everybody
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Speaker 2: kind of knew what everybody's job was.
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Speaker 6: Man made.
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Speaker 1: It made a different accountability.
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Speaker 6: It sounds it was. It was nuts, man, Yeah was it?
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Speaker 1: Uh? But with those four years things not going well,
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Speaker 1: you're not lying one hundred yard rusher guys when they
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Speaker 1: would fuck up? Was it very quick to people being like,
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Speaker 1: that's on me because you know already I'm gonna be
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Speaker 1: exposing this meeting before. So guys are more quick too.
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Speaker 1: For sure, I'll fix that.
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Speaker 6: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Sure. Game adjustment which obviously bred.
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Speaker 6: Do you guys go to the super Bowl?
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Speaker 2: It felt like it breeded too, like even after games,
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Speaker 2: like you'd have your few guys or you'd just be
2:07:41
Speaker 2: watching you with d Lineman, you just watch them together
2:07:43
Speaker 2: before you get into that defensive meaning to where guys
2:07:46
Speaker 2: kind of just already know what's happened. I mean, ours
2:07:48
Speaker 2: wasn't near as good as what their defense was. But
2:07:50
Speaker 2: to execute that defense with a light box you also
2:07:54
Speaker 2: you obviously you got to have horses, but you got
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Speaker 2: everybody's got to be able to like play it like
2:07:58
Speaker 2: that second level of IQ and that everybody across the board.
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Speaker 14: And that's what I see in today's game where I
2:08:04
Speaker 14: feel like I see much more individual ball being played
2:08:09
Speaker 14: that you can see certain stuff. He's like, man, you
2:08:12
Speaker 14: know he got that. You know he got that run
2:08:13
Speaker 14: on you because Buddy is too Why he needed to
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Speaker 14: squeeze down Like there's no need for him to be
2:08:18
Speaker 14: playing a true three when if you got like a
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Speaker 14: pair of wide you know over here, like why you
2:08:23
Speaker 14: so far back here squeeze it in which that we were.
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Speaker 6: We had calls. I want to stay, I'm on on here,
2:08:27
Speaker 6: but we had calls. I'm sure you know what these calls.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, the second time moved like got to play tomorrow.
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Speaker 1: You know how it is, man, he's about to play
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Speaker 1: the Patriots. Everything that is so, but the career, the
2:08:52
Speaker 1: three tech goes to like a four eyes.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, they know how to squeeze it down. Title
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Speaker 14: because then now that that helps, that helps me because
2:09:00
Speaker 14: if he's stand out, if he's standing out wide or not,
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Speaker 14: and they do they do do a stretch or twenty
2:09:05
Speaker 14: six what they do.
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Speaker 6: Oh they call it. Now I'm gonna have to play
2:09:08
Speaker 6: the a gap that much water where if he squeezes
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Speaker 6: down to the takes you three and squeeze in a
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Speaker 6: little bit more.
2:09:14
Speaker 14: Now they kind of condens is how much more I
2:09:17
Speaker 14: need to to get rocked back, but also how much
2:09:20
Speaker 14: I need to rock back, but also too man I
2:09:23
Speaker 14: saw I seen it like I'm not a fan of
2:09:25
Speaker 14: four three's. Like I don't know about you guys, but
2:09:28
Speaker 14: I can't stand. When I was in college, I played
2:09:30
Speaker 14: in the four to three. But after I when I
2:09:31
Speaker 14: got to the league, and this was part of like
2:09:35
Speaker 14: that first day of training camp that had me frustrated.
2:09:39
Speaker 14: I didn't I wasn't familiar with a three four defense,
2:09:41
Speaker 14: and I was like, man, these sucker is gonna draft me.
2:09:43
Speaker 14: So I had twelve visits and San franc was not
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Speaker 14: one of them, but I did have him in the
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Speaker 14: Singer Bowl that week, and that was a brutal week
2:09:51
Speaker 14: man me and coach Singletary.
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Speaker 6: But I said, man, I said they're gonna draft me.
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Speaker 6: They gonna put me in the middle, like and it's
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Speaker 6: not even a true middle. I'm like, I'm going to
2:10:00
Speaker 6: I'm on one side I'm used to being right in
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Speaker 6: the middle where I can go left right.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 14: Yeah, So they're gonna draft me and put me on
2:10:05
Speaker 14: one side. I was like, man, they must not want
2:10:08
Speaker 14: me to be success. I thought this right, I'm like,
2:10:10
Speaker 14: I'm not and this a three four. You would think
2:10:12
Speaker 14: they would, you know, put you on the outside or
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Speaker 14: something and whatnot. And I never forget Man that night meeting,
2:10:17
Speaker 14: Manuskie walks in because he asked, you know, he said, so,
2:10:22
Speaker 14: how's everybody feeling?
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Speaker 6: And I thought I took it as personally.
2:10:25
Speaker 14: I thought he was asking us personally, like how you
2:10:27
Speaker 14: feeling like you know everything, how's everything going like at home?
2:10:30
Speaker 14: Like I thought it was personally. I didn't know he
2:10:32
Speaker 14: was talking about how we're feeling from the day's practice.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 14: This is again, I'm just a rookie, so I'm still
2:10:37
Speaker 14: trying to learn the dialogue. So I'm like, nobody raised
2:10:40
Speaker 14: their hands. I'm like, coach looks at me. I know,
2:10:43
Speaker 14: she looks at me kind of like.
2:10:44
Speaker 6: Why are you a rookie?
2:10:48
Speaker 1: Thisnski uh okay, okay.
2:10:51
Speaker 14: But been then as as soon as I raised my hand,
2:10:54
Speaker 14: Manusky walks in and I'm like, oh man, this is fate.
2:10:58
Speaker 14: I'm like, now I get a chance to he had
2:11:00
Speaker 14: Coachine just asked us how we're feelings just walked in.
2:11:04
Speaker 14: I'm like, I finally get to say everything I wanted
2:11:06
Speaker 14: to ask. I wanted to say, I've been frustrated for
2:11:09
Speaker 14: the day. They have me in the middle, like Coachine
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Speaker 14: cussed me out. I said, why y'all draft me? True story, manie,
2:11:19
Speaker 14: this is rookie, This is no this is training there,
2:11:25
Speaker 14: you know, just just just this is just how linebackers.
2:11:28
Speaker 14: But was walking through to go upstairs, and he just
2:11:31
Speaker 14: decided to walk into the middle line to the linebacker,
2:11:33
Speaker 14: the middle linebacker because outside was with Tarborough whatnot, so
2:11:36
Speaker 14: it was just all middle. And I said, why y'all
2:11:39
Speaker 14: draft me? Something I said, while you draft me? I
2:11:42
Speaker 14: was I felt something. I felt somebody doing this to
2:11:45
Speaker 14: my chair. But I thought they was like, man like, okay,
2:11:47
Speaker 14: like you know, keep keep going like that. And but
2:11:51
Speaker 14: I come to realize he was trying to give me
2:11:53
Speaker 14: the shut up. But I was like, why why y'all
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Speaker 14: draft me? Why y'all draft me and y'all put me
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Speaker 14: in the put me in the middle. I say, I
2:12:02
Speaker 14: thought y'all wul draft me to be a playmaker. Y'all
2:12:05
Speaker 14: draft me because y'all need someone to make make plays
2:12:08
Speaker 14: for you. I said, y'all draft me, y'all put me
2:12:10
Speaker 14: in the middle, and just.
2:12:12
Speaker 6: Looking at me.
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Speaker 14: He was like, I can't imagine what's going through his head,
2:12:17
Speaker 14: but he was just looking at me as if like
2:12:19
Speaker 14: is he really ask is he really having this conversation?
2:12:22
Speaker 14: You really talking like this right now? And he says, well,
2:12:25
Speaker 14: you know, but as I'm looking at Minski also look
2:12:28
Speaker 14: at single tapes like you know, you gut that that
2:12:30
Speaker 14: that peripheral vision he's looking at.
2:12:31
Speaker 6: Him, you see.
2:12:33
Speaker 14: I see Coachine, as I'm saying, is like asking these questions.
2:12:36
Speaker 14: I see Coasine taking his glasses off.
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Speaker 6: He sets some on the table like that. I'm like, oh, man,
2:12:41
Speaker 6: he might be really feeling me, like like I'm like
2:12:46
Speaker 6: the mind you not.
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Speaker 1: I haven't took a visit or nothing here, so I'm like, oh,
2:12:49
Speaker 1: I just changed.
2:12:52
Speaker 6: Yeah. I saw him. I saw him take those glasses
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Speaker 6: off like that, and I still feel this from here
2:12:56
Speaker 6: right man. Seeing gets up and walks out of the room,
2:13:02
Speaker 6: and I'm first and when he gets something walk out
2:13:03
Speaker 6: of the room. I swear he gets some walk out
2:13:05
Speaker 6: of the room. I'm thinking to myself, like, that's very disrespectful.
2:13:08
Speaker 6: I thought you just asked the question. I'm answering it,
2:13:11
Speaker 6: and you just get up and you walk out of
2:13:12
Speaker 6: the room. And then Minuski says, well, you know Ray
2:13:17
Speaker 6: played in a played in three four and he was
2:13:20
Speaker 6: an all pro. And then he started naming after you guys.
2:13:22
Speaker 14: I was like, yeah, but I thought Ray played in
2:13:23
Speaker 14: the fourty three when he was doing all that, you know,
2:13:26
Speaker 14: reckon habit and whatnot.
2:13:28
Speaker 6: And I was just going back and forth with Minuski
2:13:30
Speaker 6: whatnot he was like with JR.
2:13:32
Speaker 14: Say, I was like, and then finally he said, fuck, Pat,
2:13:36
Speaker 14: I don't know, just fucking play ball, I said. When
2:13:41
Speaker 14: he said that, I feel like I heard my dad say,
2:13:43
Speaker 14: you know, it don't matter, just get it done, you
2:13:45
Speaker 14: know like that. And I was like, you know what,
2:13:47
Speaker 14: at the end of the day, I'm here, and shit,
2:13:50
Speaker 14: that's I know how to go. I know how to go,
2:13:51
Speaker 14: get it done, like you know. And so that was
2:13:54
Speaker 14: so Whenski walked out of the room. As Whenski walked
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Speaker 14: out of the room, Singingtary said, outside, Hannimal babies, Brandon Moore,
2:14:01
Speaker 14: all them starts laughing and going crazy.
2:14:03
Speaker 6: He was like, bo, you're so crazy. Man. I was like,
2:14:06
Speaker 6: I was looking at them, like what you mean, like
2:14:08
Speaker 6: for real like that. He was like, man, what you
2:14:11
Speaker 6: what made you say all that? I'm like, he asked
2:14:14
Speaker 6: how we how we doing? How we feeling?
2:14:16
Speaker 1: He was like, he's he's like Brandon Moore said, fool
2:14:20
Speaker 1: he was.
2:14:21
Speaker 14: He was talking about like how practice went. I was like,
2:14:24
Speaker 14: why do you say how practice? Why you mentioned practices?
2:14:28
Speaker 14: Going through my head and so I'm gon shortening down
2:14:31
Speaker 14: the story. They leave, Cosine walks back in. He kicks me.
2:14:37
Speaker 6: Cosine walks back in. He tells me Pat get out.
2:14:42
Speaker 6: I'm like, holy fuck man, like my first day of
2:14:45
Speaker 6: training camp. Now I'm outside in the hall and I'm like, well,
2:14:47
Speaker 6: maybe I go to the bathroom, you know the old
2:14:49
Speaker 6: the old room set up. I was like, maybe I
2:14:51
Speaker 6: just go to the bathroom because when people see me
2:14:53
Speaker 6: just standing out here in the hallway with that, they
2:14:55
Speaker 6: don't think I'm a rookie. They don't think I'm that
2:14:57
Speaker 6: that kind of rookie world. I'm like, man, this guy
2:14:59
Speaker 6: already skipping meetings and all this stuff. But so I'm
2:15:02
Speaker 6: sitting out there in the hallway. I was like, no,
2:15:03
Speaker 6: I been stay here in case he called me nickie
2:15:06
Speaker 6: on the offensive. Lineman walked through, and I see him
2:15:07
Speaker 6: looking at me kind of like what you're doing, you
2:15:10
Speaker 6: know out here? But I'm thinking they think in their
2:15:12
Speaker 6: head like man, he's just being one of those guys.
2:15:14
Speaker 6: He's gonna he's gonna be gone. He's already getting cussed
2:15:17
Speaker 6: out in practice. And they don't mind you. Now.
2:15:19
Speaker 14: They don't know that they got kicked out the out
2:15:21
Speaker 14: of the room cause Eric Kosing let the other linebackers out.
2:15:24
Speaker 14: They come out, they're all laughing at me. Coasine coming
2:15:27
Speaker 14: back in there. I never forget man, he calling back
2:15:30
Speaker 14: in there. I'm sitting down in my chair. He's walking around,
2:15:35
Speaker 14: you know how, Yeah he was.
2:15:37
Speaker 6: I see him thinking or whatnot. I'm thinking to myself, like, man,
2:15:40
Speaker 6: what's going through his mind? Then all of a sudden,
2:15:42
Speaker 6: he says, Pat, I cannot believe you had the audacity
2:15:47
Speaker 6: because he already had.
2:15:48
Speaker 14: He had this voice stick carries like real deep, and
2:15:50
Speaker 14: I swear it sounded it sounded just like that, like, Pat,
2:15:53
Speaker 14: I cannot believe you had the audacity to ask some
2:15:56
Speaker 14: kind of questions.
2:15:56
Speaker 6: Son.
2:15:58
Speaker 14: You talk about being great. Greatness is earned nobody's gonna
2:16:03
Speaker 14: give you greatness. Now I don't know where he was going.
2:16:06
Speaker 14: And the whole time my head, I'm thinking to myself, like, man,
2:16:08
Speaker 14: I don't know what it is about the base in
2:16:10
Speaker 14: your voice right now, but it sounds like you.
2:16:13
Speaker 6: It sound like you either want to fight or that
2:16:14
Speaker 6: you might be mad.
2:16:15
Speaker 14: It just you know, I grew up with a dad
2:16:17
Speaker 14: that you know, he only had to say something once,
2:16:18
Speaker 14: and so you can tell the tone of people voices
2:16:20
Speaker 14: when they speak like you know what they meaning.
2:16:22
Speaker 6: But the way he was talking like that, and I
2:16:24
Speaker 6: was like, man, he said, he really sounds mad.
2:16:28
Speaker 14: And he said, but when he said greatness is earned
2:16:31
Speaker 14: and you gotta you gotta, he said, greatness is earned.
2:16:33
Speaker 14: You gotta put it into work every day. Nobody's gonna
2:16:35
Speaker 14: give it to you.
2:16:36
Speaker 1: Man.
2:16:36
Speaker 14: I never forget. I went home to my dorm, got
2:16:41
Speaker 14: on my knees. I said, God, I don't know what
2:16:44
Speaker 14: it's gonna take. I said, but whatever I need, I said,
2:16:48
Speaker 14: just bless me to have it, and I'm gonna give
2:16:50
Speaker 14: it everything I have. And when it's all sitting down,
2:16:53
Speaker 14: I just want to be one of the best linebackers
2:16:55
Speaker 14: ever have played this game. And I promise you God.
2:16:58
Speaker 14: I woke up the next morning and something was different.
2:17:02
Speaker 14: I remember I went out there uneath them tarts and
2:17:05
Speaker 14: mind you now they they boys be laughing at because
2:17:07
Speaker 14: our individual drills be so hard like everybody else going
2:17:10
Speaker 14: through the individual and our individual drills be when you
2:17:12
Speaker 14: finish your legs shaking like you finish, have to go
2:17:15
Speaker 14: to one on one covered guy like your legs like
2:17:17
Speaker 14: this were here all because coaching, We're gonna walk, We're
2:17:20
Speaker 14: gonna walk. And so when I tell you, like my
2:17:22
Speaker 14: stance and everything was was really built from every day
2:17:26
Speaker 14: we worked just like that to the point of where
2:17:28
Speaker 14: it was like a joke. Everybody up they finna get
2:17:31
Speaker 14: killed to day. And so I went out there and
2:17:35
Speaker 14: everything was just different.
2:17:36
Speaker 1: Man.
2:17:36
Speaker 14: I was underneath the shoot. He was coming undneath that
2:17:38
Speaker 14: to try to not my not my feet, you know,
2:17:41
Speaker 14: loosing all that kind of stuff. I was punching his
2:17:43
Speaker 14: I was trying to break his wrists. I was like,
2:17:45
Speaker 14: he's gonna he gonna know today like I'm here and
2:17:48
Speaker 14: I'm not going nowhere. And so yeah, man, it was
2:17:51
Speaker 14: I don't know how it went on that that tangent,
2:17:53
Speaker 14: but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, but it was just
2:17:58
Speaker 14: after that day, after that night. Yeah, I didn't I
2:18:02
Speaker 14: didn't look back and here we are. Well it's crazy thing.
2:18:05
Speaker 14: I've been retired now, it would it be eleven years?
2:18:09
Speaker 2: Yeah if you played how long?
2:18:11
Speaker 1: Seven eight years? Well it was like seven point six
2:18:15
Speaker 1: seven point six, seven point six. How do you get
2:18:20
Speaker 1: the point six?
2:18:21
Speaker 14: Because I played six and a half games, seven games,
2:18:24
Speaker 14: and they give you like I think you get credited. Yeah, yeah,
2:18:28
Speaker 14: something like that. And so that's why I'm like that,
2:18:30
Speaker 14: Like if you ask me how tall am, I won't
2:18:31
Speaker 14: say I'm six too. I say I'm six to one
2:18:33
Speaker 14: and seventy two inches like I well, I just say
2:18:36
Speaker 14: I'm six to one, like.
2:18:37
Speaker 6: I'm not one of the ones that just inflates. So yeah,
2:18:41
Speaker 6: it says I had eight. But so.
2:18:47
Speaker 2: So when you retired, it was it had to do
2:18:49
Speaker 2: with your feet. Yeah, yeah, that was when you were
2:18:51
Speaker 2: retired again as a backer.
2:18:53
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a superhero is gone.
2:18:55
Speaker 6: Yeah.
2:18:55
Speaker 14: Yeah, that was a straw that broke the camel's Chrammel's back.
2:18:58
Speaker 14: I mean I had some mean injuries like through like
2:19:02
Speaker 14: from surgeries, and you all know, like it's not just
2:19:04
Speaker 14: when you have the surgery, it's now you got to
2:19:06
Speaker 14: get back to where you were. You got to get
2:19:08
Speaker 14: back to just being healthy, and then you gotta work
2:19:11
Speaker 14: to get better. Because my mindset was always like I
2:19:14
Speaker 14: got to be better today than I was yesterday. So
2:19:17
Speaker 14: I could feel it, like after every surgery, you could
2:19:20
Speaker 14: feel like man, like you would tell yourself, I'm gonna
2:19:22
Speaker 14: come back on and be better than I was. But
2:19:24
Speaker 14: you begin to realize how much energy, how much force
2:19:28
Speaker 14: it takes to like really like be that and do that, because,
2:19:31
Speaker 14: like I said, you couldn't stay the same because you
2:19:34
Speaker 14: you have youngsters breathing on your neck.
2:19:36
Speaker 6: You got you know, you got other other people like Moorland.
2:19:40
Speaker 6: He was yeah, yeah, he had been.
2:19:42
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played two years something like that one and
2:19:46
Speaker 1: forty tackles is rookie.
2:19:48
Speaker 2: It was you heard or Bowman was hurt. I remember
2:19:50
Speaker 2: watching film like whenever y'all played. I want to say
2:19:52
Speaker 2: it was maybe the Giants because he picked off Eli
2:19:54
Speaker 2: a couple of times, but I remember because he was like,
2:19:57
Speaker 2: he was a great backer in my drivet class. So
2:20:00
Speaker 2: seeing him, I'm like, oh, man, he's going into a
2:20:01
Speaker 2: room with Patrick Willis and naval bowman. And then yeah,
2:20:05
Speaker 2: when Boma was certain he's feeling into play. It's like, yo,
2:20:07
Speaker 2: he's out there.
2:20:08
Speaker 14: Oh no, so so boat so Bowban. So he actually
2:20:10
Speaker 14: filled in for me after I got injured. But Boma
2:20:13
Speaker 14: was hurt that Bowman got hurt in that in twenty thirteen,
2:20:15
Speaker 14: so he wasn't playing that season before came in.
2:20:19
Speaker 6: He came in for me. But that was but I was.
2:20:21
Speaker 14: I was already at that point though, to where I
2:20:23
Speaker 14: knew that I didn't have much longer to play because
2:20:27
Speaker 14: my feet were it was, if I can give context,
2:20:29
Speaker 14: it was equivalent to an like nashcar. So you know
2:20:33
Speaker 14: you have a nashcar, they go with thirty laps or
2:20:35
Speaker 14: now before they can change their tires. Well, my feet,
2:20:38
Speaker 14: my toes felt like I was just barely on treads.
2:20:41
Speaker 14: And when you grew up, you know, uh, not having
2:20:44
Speaker 14: much you know what treads can look like sometimes on
2:20:47
Speaker 14: your tires or not when it gets real thin, you
2:20:49
Speaker 14: like my dad was, yep, but I get a new
2:20:51
Speaker 14: tire for this tire blew out or whatnot, or you
2:20:53
Speaker 14: see the tires start poking through a little bit. And
2:20:56
Speaker 14: that's how I would equate it with like that's how
2:20:58
Speaker 14: my feet were. Like my feet, my it was my
2:21:00
Speaker 14: vehicle and my feet were like my tires, and I
2:21:04
Speaker 14: was like, man, I would say it often, and I
2:21:07
Speaker 14: would say, I don't know how much longer I have
2:21:09
Speaker 14: to play this game. I would say it to my
2:21:11
Speaker 14: my family, I would say it to my teammates and
2:21:14
Speaker 14: I I would say it for years, like I was
2:21:16
Speaker 14: probably saying it after my after my third year, I
2:21:18
Speaker 14: was probably starting to like be more vocal about it
2:21:21
Speaker 14: because that's how that's how bad it was hurting. It
2:21:23
Speaker 14: was to the point to where I had to put
2:21:25
Speaker 14: numb and cream on my toes, just on my big toes,
2:21:27
Speaker 14: just to go out and have walkthroughs.
2:21:29
Speaker 6: Like I used to dread walk throughs. I was like,
2:21:32
Speaker 6: I do not want to get on these feet until
2:21:33
Speaker 6: it's time to go prepare.
2:21:35
Speaker 14: But I knew. But I was also the type of
2:21:37
Speaker 14: athlete that I had to do the reps to get better.
2:21:41
Speaker 14: Some people can just see it and just go do it,
2:21:44
Speaker 14: but I did rep through it and whatnot, and so yeah,
2:21:47
Speaker 14: it was it was a feat that.
2:21:50
Speaker 6: I said, artist is time.
2:21:52
Speaker 1: It was like the diagnosis of the doctors.
2:21:54
Speaker 14: So I toured the tendon, so it was like equivalent
2:21:57
Speaker 14: to a cl in the big to okay, and it
2:22:00
Speaker 14: was on the outside and they had to go in
2:22:01
Speaker 14: and like, man, tighten his joint down and pull this
2:22:05
Speaker 14: tendon like back across.
2:22:06
Speaker 6: But I already have flat feet as it is, and
2:22:09
Speaker 6: so my toes were already like like pushing to the
2:22:12
Speaker 6: side and all that stuff.
2:22:13
Speaker 14: And for so long I had asked for someone mentioned about, like, man,
2:22:17
Speaker 14: why can't I just get surgery on these things and
2:22:20
Speaker 14: just you know, get them right, And they was like, nah, nah,
2:22:23
Speaker 14: it wouldn't be good because if you have surgery on
2:22:25
Speaker 14: it may not be the same and all that. And
2:22:27
Speaker 14: I was like, well, shit, I don't know how much.
2:22:29
Speaker 14: If y'all were talking about keep me around for a
2:22:31
Speaker 14: long time, like I don't, I don't. I'm not gonna
2:22:33
Speaker 14: have that. So every place you guys seen it was
2:22:36
Speaker 14: me understanding that, like, man, I don't, I don't know how,
2:22:40
Speaker 14: I don't know how long, Like I have to do this.
2:22:42
Speaker 14: I would love to get ten if I can, but
2:22:43
Speaker 14: I don't know if my toes gonna be able to
2:22:46
Speaker 14: last that long. However, when they do, howeveryone it ends
2:22:51
Speaker 14: and they look back on every play. And that's what
2:22:54
Speaker 14: I say today, is man, just go turn on the
2:22:56
Speaker 14: film and just just watch, whether it's practice or games.
2:22:58
Speaker 14: There wasn't a day that you and see me giving
2:23:01
Speaker 14: it everything I had because again, I knew that it
2:23:03
Speaker 14: was gonna come at some point and sooner then later,
2:23:07
Speaker 14: and if it did, they would be able to measure
2:23:10
Speaker 14: me based on, you know, what I had done. And
2:23:13
Speaker 14: so that's why, like in the eight years I was,
2:23:15
Speaker 14: I didn't go into it like, yeah, I got a
2:23:18
Speaker 14: few years, I can you know, pass by the time
2:23:20
Speaker 14: because I'm gonna play this long. I was like, shit,
2:23:23
Speaker 14: it is no guarantees and I don't and what these
2:23:26
Speaker 14: toes are. And I didn't say this part. The doctor
2:23:29
Speaker 14: actually told me after I after you had pulled me,
2:23:33
Speaker 14: after I had surgery on this toe, he told my
2:23:36
Speaker 14: friend it was with me.
2:23:37
Speaker 6: He said, make sure you let him know that. No,
2:23:42
Speaker 6: I'm sorry. He had told me.
2:23:43
Speaker 14: He said, after I had surgery, kind of like coming
2:23:46
Speaker 14: back to a little bit. Well, I was already back
2:23:48
Speaker 14: to where they was pushing me out, and he said,
2:23:51
Speaker 14: first I just want to let you know, like I
2:23:52
Speaker 14: don't know how you lasted as long as you did
2:23:55
Speaker 14: with your toe like that, because it was starting to
2:23:57
Speaker 14: turn white on the inside or whatnot.
2:24:01
Speaker 6: Like he said what it was.
2:24:02
Speaker 14: It was so inflamed that it was like had all
2:24:04
Speaker 14: the jointing there as if it was like not really
2:24:07
Speaker 14: a joint in there. And I'm like, listen, doc. I
2:24:10
Speaker 14: was trying to tell people like how bad my fucking
2:24:13
Speaker 14: feet were hurting and whatnot, and they just looked at
2:24:15
Speaker 14: me like what you mean, it's just your feet And
2:24:16
Speaker 14: I'm like, oh, maybe I don't understand something wrong with
2:24:19
Speaker 14: these things whatnot.
2:24:20
Speaker 6: And so.
2:24:22
Speaker 14: So then he told me, he said, and also your
2:24:25
Speaker 14: right one is just as bad. And so at some point,
2:24:28
Speaker 14: whether you do it, why are you playing it? When
2:24:30
Speaker 14: you finished, You're gonna have to have surgery on that
2:24:31
Speaker 14: one as well. And that's when I was like, I said, nah, nah,
2:24:35
Speaker 14: I said, the game has been good to me. I've
2:24:39
Speaker 14: been fortunate enough to be able to like do some
2:24:42
Speaker 14: things like put myself. I've been able to do the
2:24:44
Speaker 14: things that I said I was going to do. And
2:24:47
Speaker 14: at twenty I remember when I was twenty two twenty three,
2:24:50
Speaker 14: I see gods come back and they would talk to us.
2:24:53
Speaker 6: And the hands like this, and they walk they look fragile,
2:24:57
Speaker 6: and I'm thinking myself at twenty two twenty three, I'm like,
2:24:59
Speaker 6: man is that what we have to look forward to.
2:25:02
Speaker 6: So now fast forward, I go through my years.
2:25:04
Speaker 14: Surgerys, Ah, I don't have like I had five surgeries
2:25:07
Speaker 14: on this one hand, one over here and now here.
2:25:10
Speaker 14: I am going into year eight, and I don't think
2:25:12
Speaker 14: I'm thinking. I'm like, I can see them same guys
2:25:14
Speaker 14: when I'm when I was twenty one, twenty two, and
2:25:16
Speaker 14: they come back in their hands like this, and I
2:25:18
Speaker 14: was like, man, I don't want to come.
2:25:19
Speaker 6: Back in ten years or twenty years. And that's me.
2:25:23
Speaker 6: I was like, so how do I do? How do
2:25:26
Speaker 6: I go out or how do I do enough to worry?
2:25:30
Speaker 6: I don't take that.
2:25:30
Speaker 14: I don't I don't use all my life for us
2:25:33
Speaker 14: to where I can't like I don't have nothing to
2:25:35
Speaker 14: come back from and whatnot. And so yeah, so all
2:25:38
Speaker 14: that together was yeah, it's time to make time to
2:25:42
Speaker 14: go figure out something else.
2:25:44
Speaker 1: So how quickly was that decision?
2:25:46
Speaker 14: Oh, it didn't happen. It didn't happen overnight. It was
2:25:49
Speaker 14: like I'd been thinking it for a while going into
2:25:52
Speaker 14: that last year. I'll tell you guys that going into
2:25:54
Speaker 14: that last year, I knew it's probably going to be
2:25:56
Speaker 14: my last year because I was getting to the point
2:25:58
Speaker 14: of where I didn't have it in my feet to
2:26:01
Speaker 14: like compete like that. I didn't have any evening even
2:26:04
Speaker 14: to work on the things I know I needed to
2:26:07
Speaker 14: work on to be better. But I couldn't do the
2:26:09
Speaker 14: things I needed to do to be better because I
2:26:10
Speaker 14: didn't have my toes to be able to stick, you know,
2:26:13
Speaker 14: do certain moves. I had to just do the same,
2:26:15
Speaker 14: like you know, catch you like you know, get you,
2:26:18
Speaker 14: make you dam I'm gonna use my speed to go
2:26:19
Speaker 14: ahead and then just get an edge on you, and
2:26:21
Speaker 14: then I'm just gonna track you like Yeah.
2:26:24
Speaker 2: I'd imagine it felt like it's like pain and fear
2:26:27
Speaker 2: and having the thought process of like the joy you
2:26:29
Speaker 2: had playing football turned into the joy was gone and
2:26:32
Speaker 2: I have to do this versus I get to.
2:26:34
Speaker 14: Do That's exactly where it started to feel like if
2:26:36
Speaker 14: I man usually hit around on the head men to borrow. Somehow,
2:26:39
Speaker 14: they ended up giving us a nickname of pain and suffering.
2:26:43
Speaker 14: I was pain and the world was suffering. But literally
2:26:47
Speaker 14: that's how I played whatnot like I felt like I was.
2:26:51
Speaker 14: I feel like it was it was joy, but man,
2:26:52
Speaker 14: it was so much pain. But I feel like I
2:26:54
Speaker 14: had to suffer through it just long enough to be
2:26:57
Speaker 14: able to.
2:26:59
Speaker 6: Do what was needed to. Yes, man, be where I am.
2:27:03
Speaker 5: Yeah today, Like I remember, they used to tape your
2:27:06
Speaker 5: big toe down like that right.
2:27:08
Speaker 1: And then tape it like like curling and tape it.
2:27:12
Speaker 6: They would get a white.
2:27:13
Speaker 14: Thing, put it on top and pull it down to
2:27:15
Speaker 14: try to keep it like so it so it could
2:27:17
Speaker 14: stayed like firm because of not like, man, it gets
2:27:21
Speaker 14: loose and you like you didn't have no big toes.
2:27:23
Speaker 14: They'd be like, you have your thumbs and you just
2:27:26
Speaker 14: only have these Even these were here, it wasn't wasn't
2:27:29
Speaker 14: working good because they got so used to.
2:27:30
Speaker 6: Be in this way. So yeah, man, my feet were
2:27:34
Speaker 6: and without my feet, I feel like I couldn't do much.
2:27:37
Speaker 5: I should have saw the tape job. It was like
2:27:40
Speaker 5: thirty minute tape jobs like every day, like every day
2:27:43
Speaker 5: every day.
2:27:44
Speaker 14: You guys should see my cle man should see my clea.
2:27:48
Speaker 6: I kept.
2:27:48
Speaker 14: I wore new perid of cleats every almost every other
2:27:51
Speaker 14: day or every week. Every game I had a new
2:27:53
Speaker 14: period I had to wear a new peri of.
2:27:55
Speaker 6: They got loose. I feel like my.
2:27:58
Speaker 14: Snug in there, yeah, and so looking if you look
2:28:00
Speaker 14: at the bottom of my You were literally literally looking
2:28:03
Speaker 14: at it and be like, man, who's living in here?
2:28:06
Speaker 14: I literally have like like tote things here. I got
2:28:10
Speaker 14: the little spat pads you will put here, all trying
2:28:12
Speaker 14: to get my feet like some kind of balance so
2:28:16
Speaker 14: I could grab it, feel like my feet were like
2:28:19
Speaker 14: my feet were on ice inside of my shoes.
2:28:23
Speaker 1: That is so weird. It kind of sounds like gout.
2:28:32
Speaker 1: So I'm a survivor to that is brutal.
2:28:37
Speaker 14: But but we all, we all went through we all
2:28:40
Speaker 14: went through something or faced something. I remember Cowboys would say.
2:28:45
Speaker 14: Justin Smith, he would say, Man, if we only play
2:28:46
Speaker 14: this game when we felt good, we would never play.
2:28:49
Speaker 14: And so and that was real because there was times
2:28:53
Speaker 14: where I did I had joy for competition, I had
2:28:56
Speaker 14: joy for like you know, sports, but god damn, and
2:29:00
Speaker 14: the way my body would feel out I literally I
2:29:01
Speaker 14: wished to say. I said, man, one day, I'm not
2:29:03
Speaker 14: gonna have to do this, and I'm gonna be able
2:29:04
Speaker 14: to like relax and better do what i want to
2:29:07
Speaker 14: do when I want to do it. And for the
2:29:09
Speaker 14: most part, I get to do that. But I can
2:29:11
Speaker 14: say life. You realize there's more to life, and there's
2:29:16
Speaker 14: things you have to get set up right in life.
2:29:19
Speaker 14: But all in all though, like, yeah, I just I
2:29:23
Speaker 14: try to give everything I have because so I could
2:29:25
Speaker 14: be where I am today. So the person you see
2:29:28
Speaker 14: today is the person that I've been working to, like
2:29:31
Speaker 14: to get to. I wanted to be able to like
2:29:33
Speaker 14: be at a place where if you was like, man,
2:29:34
Speaker 14: look at you, like you can still move you look well,
2:29:36
Speaker 14: you look fine. I'm like, thank you. But I had
2:29:38
Speaker 14: to make that decision back then, and it's taken me
2:29:41
Speaker 14: ten years to really, you know, get myself to this
2:29:44
Speaker 14: person that you see. Had I not and I have
2:29:46
Speaker 14: kept on going, then I really don't know if I
2:29:50
Speaker 14: I don't know how it would have been.
2:29:51
Speaker 6: I just know that it didn't. It didn't add up
2:29:53
Speaker 6: to like it had been a positive.
2:29:55
Speaker 1: So how was it for you when you made the
2:29:57
Speaker 1: decision to retire in those first couple of years. You're
2:30:00
Speaker 1: sitting there and you're still in your twenties and you're
2:30:02
Speaker 1: watching the boys play, and you see it. I know
2:30:04
Speaker 1: there's a moment you're feeling good on the couch and like, bro,
2:30:06
Speaker 1: I could go do this again. No, it was a
2:30:12
Speaker 1: dumb question. Was it was more? It was more.
2:30:16
Speaker 14: When I was looking at it, like when I retired, Man,
2:30:18
Speaker 14: I feel like you always heard like y'all hanging up
2:30:21
Speaker 14: with football players and and that's all y'all know, and
2:30:25
Speaker 14: that's you know, we're just the same and all that
2:30:27
Speaker 14: you hear, people hear all this rhetoric and something and
2:30:29
Speaker 14: stuff that they say. And so in my head, I
2:30:31
Speaker 14: was like, man, I gotta go and get into something
2:30:34
Speaker 14: it's just as just as good or it looks as
2:30:37
Speaker 14: if it's it's it's better than football. And at that
2:30:41
Speaker 14: point in time, ever since I was a kid, I
2:30:42
Speaker 14: always been into technology, and the fact that I was
2:30:44
Speaker 14: drafted to the Bay Area and now I'm hearing the
2:30:48
Speaker 14: I was like.
2:30:49
Speaker 6: Man, it's got it again. It's gotta be fake working
2:30:51
Speaker 6: on the.
2:30:51
Speaker 14: Side or something like what would be the chances like
2:30:53
Speaker 14: I would be in a place of being a place
2:30:56
Speaker 14: of the same things I have always been intrigued with
2:30:59
Speaker 14: or whatnot. And so man, I jump from one frying
2:31:02
Speaker 14: pan to the next. And if I could give any
2:31:04
Speaker 14: recommendation that I would always say, well, this relationship or
2:31:08
Speaker 14: whatever type of relationship is, give yourself a little bit
2:31:10
Speaker 14: of time to kind of dissect and and yeah, see
2:31:15
Speaker 14: see some things. And I didn't do that, and I
2:31:16
Speaker 14: just jumped straight into this tech business right after I retired,
2:31:21
Speaker 14: and I was like, man, it gave me that sense
2:31:23
Speaker 14: of purpose because of what I realized, like not having football.
2:31:26
Speaker 14: I was like, shit, man, I gotta do something. Not
2:31:29
Speaker 14: doing nothing. It's not an option. And then, like I said,
2:31:31
Speaker 14: just I was like, all right, let me go get
2:31:32
Speaker 14: into tech. I want to be an entrepreneur. I want
2:31:34
Speaker 14: to think I can build a you know, after I
2:31:36
Speaker 14: can be a part of something.
2:31:36
Speaker 6: We just work really hard and you know, you build
2:31:39
Speaker 6: it up and you're gonna make millions, you know, and
2:31:40
Speaker 6: all that nonsense.
2:31:42
Speaker 14: And I won't to say nonsense, but come to learn
2:31:46
Speaker 14: it's a lot more, a lot more too. But I
2:31:48
Speaker 14: self to say, man, I got in. This ended up
2:31:50
Speaker 14: after a year. I remember it is after a year.
2:31:53
Speaker 14: It was September twenty fourth, twenty fifth. I get this
2:31:57
Speaker 14: call and my business partner, man, shit was just crazy
2:32:05
Speaker 14: and it was not sounding good. And he knew more
2:32:09
Speaker 14: of what was going on than I did. But the
2:32:12
Speaker 14: fact that he was going crazy with acting like he
2:32:14
Speaker 14: was going crazy and everything, I was like.
2:32:16
Speaker 6: What the crap is going on?
2:32:17
Speaker 5: Man?
2:32:17
Speaker 14: Like what wait, you can't go crazy? I got my
2:32:19
Speaker 14: money invested in this whatnot and go and behold. Man,
2:32:25
Speaker 14: it was almost like come to find out. It was
2:32:27
Speaker 14: like Tyson, catch me in a dark alley, Tyson and
2:32:31
Speaker 14: the vendor hole Field and and uh, Larry Holmes, all
2:32:35
Speaker 14: of them catch me, catch me in an alley and
2:32:37
Speaker 14: just going going ham On and catch me when I'm
2:32:40
Speaker 14: to see Alley's on Broadway over there, going and going
2:32:44
Speaker 14: and going ham or whatnot. Because man, when I tell you,
2:32:47
Speaker 14: like it really humbled me to the tenth degree to say,
2:32:51
Speaker 14: like I was like, man, I feel like I'm in
2:32:55
Speaker 14: the world right now, in the world.
2:32:56
Speaker 6: What the fuck have I just done?
2:32:59
Speaker 14: And I'm less to say I can see how when
2:33:01
Speaker 14: they say guys after five years have been in the league,
2:33:04
Speaker 14: how they can end up being broke because you're.
2:33:08
Speaker 6: Trying to find something in nine time to ten.
2:33:12
Speaker 14: We probably don't know the right people at that point
2:33:14
Speaker 14: in time to really put us in a you know,
2:33:18
Speaker 14: to help us be in a better situation. Because I've learned,
2:33:20
Speaker 14: because now I am, but then I wasn't, so I
2:33:23
Speaker 14: said to say, in those three years, man, I would
2:33:25
Speaker 14: probably say those are probably tougher than football and life itself.
2:33:32
Speaker 14: Like before, like anything whatnot. So it's it's been a
2:33:35
Speaker 14: it's been a journey. It's been a journey. And I'll
2:33:38
Speaker 14: say every person goes through that dark knight of soul
2:33:40
Speaker 14: in some form of fashion or whatnot. And depending on
2:33:44
Speaker 14: how much you've been through in your life, that's how
2:33:47
Speaker 14: much you're gonna have to like go in and like
2:33:50
Speaker 14: get to working on and you get better at whatnot.
2:33:54
Speaker 14: And so this is this is where I am today when.
2:33:56
Speaker 2: You're talking about those three years, like if you were
2:33:58
Speaker 2: whenever you go and probably I assume you probably speak
2:34:00
Speaker 2: to players or speak to guys about stuff, whether it's
2:34:02
Speaker 2: post like post career, what's like a in that story,
2:34:05
Speaker 2: what's like a regret that you speak to your like, hey,
2:34:08
Speaker 2: learn from this mistake that I made, or do this
2:34:10
Speaker 2: extra due diligence whatever it is.
2:34:12
Speaker 14: Be I would say, be vulnerable early. Don't wait until
2:34:17
Speaker 14: something happens. Don't wait for something major to happen to you.
2:34:20
Speaker 14: Like even if you see like small things that you
2:34:22
Speaker 14: know you want to work on or get better at,
2:34:24
Speaker 14: like go do it like now, don't wait until it happens.
2:34:28
Speaker 14: Because I feel like that's the thing with with football,
2:34:31
Speaker 14: is I mean with me retiring. I felt like if
2:34:34
Speaker 14: if you wait, if you wait too long, it may
2:34:40
Speaker 14: not be good.
2:34:42
Speaker 6: What was going.
2:34:42
Speaker 14: I would just say, whatever you need to work on,
2:34:44
Speaker 14: get started on it, like now, and use while you
2:34:51
Speaker 14: while you while you have that shield on your back,
2:34:53
Speaker 14: while while you weren't that helmet, like, use that to
2:34:56
Speaker 14: leverage you. But the only thing is, it's like you're
2:34:58
Speaker 14: talking to It's like you're talking to like little kids
2:35:02
Speaker 14: that it's gonna go in one air and after the
2:35:03
Speaker 14: other because you don't know what you don't know yet.
2:35:05
Speaker 14: And when you in that game, Yeah, when you're in
2:35:08
Speaker 14: that game, it's like you think he was gonna keep
2:35:09
Speaker 14: on like doing your thing. And so somebody come back
2:35:11
Speaker 14: and they say something to you. All night, it's almost
2:35:13
Speaker 14: like it I can see when you say something to
2:35:15
Speaker 14: the guys. Some guys you can see like they kind
2:35:17
Speaker 14: of they listen for the same and they see some
2:35:18
Speaker 14: guys like you just tells. My dad used to say,
2:35:22
Speaker 14: all right, body, don't let it go in one air
2:35:23
Speaker 14: and after the other. And you can see it going
2:35:25
Speaker 14: one air and after the other, and then you just
2:35:27
Speaker 14: realize everybody's gonna have to have their go through their
2:35:31
Speaker 14: own journey, and you just be there for when they
2:35:34
Speaker 14: when they need you or you just speak life and
2:35:37
Speaker 14: then just like anything, when it's gonna be a moment
2:35:40
Speaker 14: to where they're gonna like have a moment they're processing
2:35:42
Speaker 14: them like you know what such and such was actually
2:35:44
Speaker 14: like telling me about this or blah blah blah, and
2:35:46
Speaker 14: then that's when they'll come back. Because other than that,
2:35:48
Speaker 14: I don't I don't speak or I don't say anything
2:35:50
Speaker 14: that I can't stand behind or that you want to
2:35:53
Speaker 14: be able to come back to me later on and
2:35:54
Speaker 14: be like, hey, we're talking about this what you mean
2:35:56
Speaker 14: and I'm able to like share it. But yeah, and
2:36:00
Speaker 14: also it took me a while to come back around
2:36:02
Speaker 14: the team because I felt like I didn't have any cessenance.
2:36:05
Speaker 14: I felt like, yeah, I can come back and talk
2:36:07
Speaker 14: about X and o's and how to tackle somebody. I'm like,
2:36:10
Speaker 14: but you got coaches like for that, like what do
2:36:12
Speaker 14: I really possess? That that's different. And it took me
2:36:15
Speaker 14: to go out into the world I call into this
2:36:19
Speaker 14: ocean of a world or whatnot and have some bumps
2:36:22
Speaker 14: and bruises to be able to come back. Now when
2:36:23
Speaker 14: I'm in there and I'm like, listen, I don't know
2:36:26
Speaker 14: everything there is to know, but I know I had
2:36:28
Speaker 14: to get my ship straight or whatnot, and there's something
2:36:31
Speaker 14: I can help assist or just you know, give you
2:36:34
Speaker 14: some kind of light in some form of fashion, like
2:36:38
Speaker 14: you have to walk the walk. But I'll share with
2:36:40
Speaker 14: you like what I know and going through what I
2:36:42
Speaker 14: went through, like yeah, man, it's made me. It's made
2:36:46
Speaker 14: me a lot, a lot stronger, Like it's way beyond
2:36:49
Speaker 14: like just you know, tackling somebody at this point.
2:36:52
Speaker 2: And so yeah, are you able to share what did happen?
2:36:56
Speaker 2: Uh with the three years, the three dark years? The
2:37:02
Speaker 2: hardest moment?
2:37:03
Speaker 12: Ye?
2:37:03
Speaker 14: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was just man, it was one
2:37:05
Speaker 14: of the things you go to your ship, you go
2:37:08
Speaker 14: to your account and you realize, like man, a lot
2:37:11
Speaker 14: of money is it's not there, and you're.
2:37:16
Speaker 6: Like, what the hell is going on?
2:37:19
Speaker 14: Like why is money not there where it was supposed
2:37:22
Speaker 14: to be doing the things that But then you realize
2:37:26
Speaker 14: the onus that you have to take and and so
2:37:28
Speaker 14: I went through a little bit of financial Like it wouldn't.
2:37:31
Speaker 14: It wasn't in the sense of like man, just I
2:37:35
Speaker 14: lost everything, But it was at the point when you've
2:37:37
Speaker 14: had a lot and you get hit pretty strong. You
2:37:39
Speaker 14: like it kind of you have to make you readjust
2:37:42
Speaker 14: meaning like you're comfortable. But then something happened in life
2:37:45
Speaker 14: and you're like, oh wait a minute, it caused you
2:37:48
Speaker 14: to it. It would actually probably save me because had
2:37:50
Speaker 14: I not had had to go back.
2:37:52
Speaker 6: And that called like figure out what's going on? You
2:37:56
Speaker 6: know what's going on?
2:37:57
Speaker 14: I would have just been thinking, like, man, everything coming
2:38:00
Speaker 14: by yard, like you know, you just setting on money,
2:38:02
Speaker 14: but you just only setting on it.
2:38:03
Speaker 6: You didn't. I didn't know anything. But because I had
2:38:05
Speaker 6: to go through because I lost some and I had
2:38:08
Speaker 6: to really like figure it out. And I spent about two.
2:38:10
Speaker 14: Years thinking like, man, I can figure this out myself,
2:38:13
Speaker 14: like I know I can. Because he was embarrassed to
2:38:15
Speaker 14: like shock to anybody and share anything to anybody. And
2:38:19
Speaker 14: then I remember I was talking to one of my
2:38:21
Speaker 14: teammates him when I was having a conversation and tell
2:38:25
Speaker 14: your hardest thing sometime to do is be honest with yourself.
2:38:27
Speaker 14: And he was asking me some questions and I couldn't
2:38:30
Speaker 14: answer the questions. I was like, well, I'm getting some residuals.
2:38:33
Speaker 14: He was like, yeah, but what's your what's your number?
2:38:35
Speaker 14: What's your passive like things I should have known when
2:38:37
Speaker 14: I was playing, but I was making good money and
2:38:39
Speaker 14: I knew that like as long as I don't as
2:38:41
Speaker 14: long as touch, as long as I just mess with
2:38:42
Speaker 14: my endorsement money or whatnot, like that's just simple as
2:38:46
Speaker 14: like you only spend what you what you have or not,
2:38:48
Speaker 14: and then you just put your football money away. But
2:38:50
Speaker 14: he was asking me questions that I didn't I couldn't
2:38:53
Speaker 14: answer it, and so I remember reaching back out to him.
2:38:56
Speaker 14: I was like, Hey, what you mean when you're talking
2:38:58
Speaker 14: about passive and when you talked about dividends, like you
2:39:03
Speaker 14: know what, what is all that stuff you're talking about?
2:39:05
Speaker 14: And he was like, he said, let me, I'm gonn
2:39:07
Speaker 14: connect you with my guy. He's gonna send you some
2:39:10
Speaker 14: questions to send it your guy.
2:39:12
Speaker 6: And that was the moment.
2:39:13
Speaker 14: And that was like three years ago, and that was
2:39:15
Speaker 14: the moment that really like things started to like I
2:39:19
Speaker 14: was like, okay, I got to the guy. After I
2:39:22
Speaker 14: got the information back, the other gentleman broke it down
2:39:26
Speaker 14: to me. And when he broke it down to me,
2:39:27
Speaker 14: it was as real as this. You can be the
2:39:30
Speaker 14: nicest person in the world, but if you don't know
2:39:32
Speaker 14: what you don't know you'll be broke to. And so
2:39:37
Speaker 14: now I say that as a statement because when he
2:39:38
Speaker 14: broke it down to me, I was like, wait a minute,
2:39:40
Speaker 14: see me telling me even though I got this nest
2:39:42
Speaker 14: egg whatnot, you don't have this next egg and X,
2:39:47
Speaker 14: Y and Z, like this could still happen. He was
2:39:49
Speaker 14: like yeah, because this is how finances work. And when
2:39:52
Speaker 14: he broke it down to me, I said, holy shit,
2:39:56
Speaker 14: I see how guys around of money.
2:39:59
Speaker 6: Yeah, you had your money in.
2:40:01
Speaker 5: High stake, high stocks, high rest accounts.
2:40:05
Speaker 6: Yeah, like what.
2:40:06
Speaker 5: Stocks that you can take big risk on?
2:40:08
Speaker 6: Pretty much that what you talking about with the with
2:40:10
Speaker 6: the tech guy.
2:40:11
Speaker 2: That was like when the one dude started to like
2:40:13
Speaker 2: educate your your You're getting some questions answered. He's like,
2:40:16
Speaker 2: you send it to your guy, and you're thinking, okay,
2:40:18
Speaker 2: is he going to be able to give him information
2:40:19
Speaker 2: back to make sense? And that's when you started to
2:40:21
Speaker 2: kind of put the puzzle together that you could have
2:40:23
Speaker 2: been in a bad spot with the gentleman you were
2:40:25
Speaker 2: working with.
2:40:27
Speaker 6: So it's just from the tech company. Yeah, well so
2:40:31
Speaker 6: some matter of fact, I kind of went roundbled through.
2:40:35
Speaker 14: So when I talked everything happened with the tech guy first, like,
2:40:38
Speaker 14: that's so my money was in this was with the
2:40:41
Speaker 14: tech guy and him, and I was doing business or whatnot.
2:40:44
Speaker 6: But come to find out he was living off the money.
2:40:48
Speaker 6: Like it was like it was his that you invested, Yeah,
2:40:52
Speaker 6: that I invested, and so.
2:40:53
Speaker 14: What you're investing in getting yeah, and I see him
2:40:56
Speaker 14: living yeah, and I see him living his you know,
2:40:58
Speaker 14: he'll see him living the life.
2:41:00
Speaker 6: But it was all the things. Now.
2:41:01
Speaker 14: Had I understood how to do, had I done my
2:41:03
Speaker 14: due diligence, like ask the question, get the background check,
2:41:06
Speaker 14: I would have would figured it out right away. And
2:41:08
Speaker 14: I still had one person and two people that was
2:41:10
Speaker 14: like man, you sure like he kind of strange and
2:41:13
Speaker 14: died up. But I was so in my ego I
2:41:15
Speaker 14: was like so like, no, I can do this, Like
2:41:17
Speaker 14: just worked really hard, like I'm smart enough, and you realize,
2:41:20
Speaker 14: like man, you need people that are smarter than you,
2:41:23
Speaker 14: especially like in this realm. And so after all that happened,
2:41:27
Speaker 14: I spent those three years just trying to like so
2:41:30
Speaker 14: I went through arbitration and got everything back. And when
2:41:32
Speaker 14: I got everything back, and I think its around twenty seventeen.
2:41:36
Speaker 14: Because the things that were like like had assets here,
2:41:39
Speaker 14: different things whatnot. And that's when I realized. So I
2:41:43
Speaker 14: retired twenty and fifteen, twenty seventeens when I realized, like, shit, man,
2:41:47
Speaker 14: this freedom stuff you got, you got responsibilities, like you
2:41:50
Speaker 14: have to like uphold you gotta like take care of whatnot.
2:41:54
Speaker 14: And so that's when I was like, just I just
2:41:58
Speaker 14: kept it bare minimum, like I come from much nothing.
2:42:00
Speaker 14: So I was like, all right, I know I got
2:42:01
Speaker 14: you know, I got a little bit, but this ain't
2:42:03
Speaker 14: enough to I keep having to pool from this a
2:42:06
Speaker 14: little bit. And I was making some I was making
2:42:08
Speaker 14: some money here and there, but I just noticed something
2:42:11
Speaker 14: wouldn't something just wasn't right.
2:42:12
Speaker 1: Man.
2:42:12
Speaker 6: I was like, how do how do people get this
2:42:15
Speaker 6: this living.
2:42:16
Speaker 14: Thing that they I didn't know what I was even
2:42:18
Speaker 14: trying to ask myself until I was having the conversations
2:42:21
Speaker 14: with Dante, and they say, and it's just saying that
2:42:24
Speaker 14: when the Buddha, I mean, when the teacher is ready
2:42:27
Speaker 14: the student, when the student is ready, the teacher will appear.
2:42:30
Speaker 14: And I was at that place where not like I said,
2:42:33
Speaker 14: I was just having a conversation with the teammate and
2:42:36
Speaker 14: him and I was working out, and he just started
2:42:38
Speaker 14: asking me some questions because he had already he had
2:42:40
Speaker 14: had to go through something similar and whatnot. And so
2:42:44
Speaker 14: that's how he was able to ask me. And that's
2:42:47
Speaker 14: when I was like, I realized, like, man, I need
2:42:50
Speaker 14: some I need to get this right.
2:42:52
Speaker 6: And so when when.
2:42:55
Speaker 14: Dad when his guy sent me the list to send
2:42:59
Speaker 14: him my uh financial guy that I have at the time,
2:43:02
Speaker 14: because I fired my very first one right after I retired,
2:43:05
Speaker 14: I got rid of everybody. That's probably another reason the
2:43:07
Speaker 14: two that got me. I just felt like everything was off.
2:43:10
Speaker 14: Nothing was what it was supposed to be. Not I wouldn't.
2:43:13
Speaker 14: I wouldn't in tune to it like I should haven't.
2:43:16
Speaker 14: So I thought, when I was hearing anything, it's just
2:43:18
Speaker 14: like this is off. And so I was like, we
2:43:20
Speaker 14: don't know what to do.
2:43:20
Speaker 6: I just get rid of everybody, you know. And so yeah,
2:43:27
Speaker 6: but I said to say, what I what I learned was.
2:43:31
Speaker 14: The guy that I was that I had currently, so
2:43:33
Speaker 14: I still have him still, I have to actually, and
2:43:37
Speaker 14: what I learned was that this person was not was
2:43:41
Speaker 14: not doing anything bad. It was just these firms and stuff.
2:43:44
Speaker 14: You realize that they are they are the middle man,
2:43:48
Speaker 14: and they will put you in put you in funds,
2:43:53
Speaker 14: but they'll get that money right off top, like they
2:43:56
Speaker 14: get the money right off top. And then there's other
2:43:57
Speaker 14: ones who they only make money if I do it whatnot.
2:44:02
Speaker 14: And so what I realized was this person was not
2:44:05
Speaker 14: doing anything bad, but he would just putting me in
2:44:08
Speaker 14: these very expensive funds. Yeah I'm getting I'm getting returns,
2:44:12
Speaker 14: but he's getting each time you put me in one,
2:44:15
Speaker 14: he's getting a killer return right off top, like sixty twenty,
2:44:19
Speaker 14: like forty thousand, like sixty thousand of his money. So
2:44:22
Speaker 14: that's why he wanted to put me in. I mean,
2:44:23
Speaker 14: he don't watch anything. He just kind of just they'll
2:44:27
Speaker 14: be all right, let him sit right.
2:44:28
Speaker 2: Yeah.
2:44:29
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just like like like letting him sit it whatnot.
2:44:30
Speaker 6: They're mature. I forget what what it was. I should
2:44:34
Speaker 6: know this. Throw some words yeah and he and he yeah.
2:44:39
Speaker 1: So I just I just realized something with the words.
2:44:41
Speaker 6: Yeah. So that's all was man.
2:44:42
Speaker 14: I just so those three years of that was just
2:44:45
Speaker 14: me like really getting getting taking on the full responsibility
2:44:51
Speaker 14: of the things that I had always put on allow
2:44:54
Speaker 14: others to do for me or whatnot. And so that
2:44:56
Speaker 14: was my first real like call my adult freaking turn
2:45:00
Speaker 14: into an adult man, Like I was like, holy shit,
2:45:03
Speaker 14: Like this whole time I thought I was an adult
2:45:05
Speaker 14: because you know, you could go wherever you can go,
2:45:07
Speaker 14: spend some money, you can go buy whatever. But now
2:45:10
Speaker 14: being a truly full, responsible, responsible adult is everything that
2:45:15
Speaker 14: you say is supposed to be yours, like you are
2:45:17
Speaker 14: taking care of it, like you are responsible for it.
2:45:20
Speaker 14: And so yeah, So after I did that, I went
2:45:22
Speaker 14: through that three years or whatnot. That's when I ended
2:45:25
Speaker 14: up meeting this new guy Ornot, who really, man, it
2:45:33
Speaker 14: feels good to be able to you know, sleep, yeah, and.
2:45:38
Speaker 6: You see, you know, and sleep.
2:45:39
Speaker 14: And then every month, you know, you see that, you
2:45:41
Speaker 14: see that residual, you know, dip it in, like come
2:45:43
Speaker 14: in and see them different, like you know, avenues of
2:45:47
Speaker 14: you know, streaming, like uh yeah, revenue streams.
2:45:51
Speaker 6: And you're like, man, this was supposed to be like.
2:45:54
Speaker 14: And then in my mind like just don't fuck it up,
2:45:57
Speaker 14: ye just don't like, just don't be being a knuckle
2:46:00
Speaker 14: getting too egregious with stuff.
2:46:02
Speaker 6: Just keep it simple.
2:46:03
Speaker 14: Just get base hits. Like, man, I played baseball. I
2:46:06
Speaker 14: love baseball growing up, so I understood the the dynamics.
2:46:10
Speaker 14: I understood the scheme of you or whatnot, as far
2:46:12
Speaker 14: as just yeah, man, like, if you can get a
2:46:14
Speaker 14: home run, that's awesome, but it's very hard to get
2:46:17
Speaker 14: grand slams unless you just know the top top ones
2:46:22
Speaker 14: and so yeah, that's yeah.
2:46:24
Speaker 6: So I am rambling.
2:46:25
Speaker 2: But yeah, earlier when you said when you're ready to
2:46:27
Speaker 2: be the student, the teacher will appear.
2:46:29
Speaker 1: I was like, my god, that is a bar. I
2:46:34
Speaker 1: just walked into a faithful workout and came out. Then
2:46:36
Speaker 1: it's time to figure out my becoming an adult. I
2:46:40
Speaker 1: appreciate you sharing that too. No, I appreciate I think
2:46:43
Speaker 1: a lot more athletes go through that than they want
2:46:44
Speaker 1: to admit to. Just be trusting somebody or just being like, okay,
2:46:48
Speaker 1: I'm doing this in the field, don't handle everything else
2:46:51
Speaker 1: off the field, and just be like, hey, I know
2:46:53
Speaker 1: what my contracts as I make, so I gotta be good.
2:46:56
Speaker 1: And as soon as you pull the veil back a
2:46:58
Speaker 1: little bit, you have to have to write people in
2:46:59
Speaker 1: place and then be willing to ask those questions as well. Yeah, hey,
2:47:03
Speaker 1: I need to see all these things, and if there's
2:47:05
Speaker 1: ever a lack of transparency, that should be the red
2:47:08
Speaker 1: flag right there, or those guys that are affected.
2:47:10
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I would, and I would recommend man two
2:47:13
Speaker 14: guys too that if you if you are a business
2:47:17
Speaker 14: I mean when I was in school, I didn't take
2:47:19
Speaker 14: I don't, I don't. I can't remember if I took
2:47:20
Speaker 14: any business class. I took a political sign, I took
2:47:23
Speaker 14: political science, I major in criminal justice, minerning English, so
2:47:25
Speaker 14: I took all those, but I didn't want time take
2:47:28
Speaker 14: a business class one night.
2:47:31
Speaker 6: And now I sit on a family office.
2:47:34
Speaker 14: Board in Palm Springs Velvet Hummer where we buy small
2:47:39
Speaker 14: to medium, small to medium sized businesses, and just sitting
2:47:43
Speaker 14: in there and listening to all the dialogue and whatnot,
2:47:46
Speaker 14: I'm like, man, if I was an athlete out most
2:47:49
Speaker 14: definitely like i'd probably even get I'd probably even take business,
2:47:52
Speaker 14: but I would make sure I get some business classes,
2:47:54
Speaker 14: just like.
2:47:55
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I'll look back at college and it
2:47:58
Speaker 1: was like I was a general studies major. Hey, general studies.
2:48:04
Speaker 1: So I was like, yeah, I had I took a
2:48:08
Speaker 1: hula class. I was the one white guy in African
2:48:11
Speaker 1: American study, and the weather black guy be like white
2:48:15
Speaker 1: people suck. I'd be like, oh, ship, hopefully I can
2:48:19
Speaker 1: get a sea. And now I look back and I'm
2:48:21
Speaker 1: thirty four and I have two kids, and I'm like, dude,
2:48:23
Speaker 1: if I wish I understood like what was in front
2:48:26
Speaker 1: of me enough to be like, I would have taken
2:48:28
Speaker 1: my education so much more serious tour. Now I'm thirty
2:48:32
Speaker 1: four and I'm trying to like do other things extracricically outside,
2:48:34
Speaker 1: like just educate myself with more things. But at that
2:48:37
Speaker 1: time is you can always get better. But I had
2:48:40
Speaker 1: such an opportunity being in school to do all that.
2:48:44
Speaker 1: Now I'm just doing a podcast out and.
2:48:51
Speaker 6: Got before.
2:48:54
Speaker 5: Yeah, but why I always tell you know, the younger
2:48:57
Speaker 5: guys and guys that even retired that I talked to audit,
2:49:03
Speaker 5: audit everyone. Yeah, they can't get mad. If they get mad,
2:49:07
Speaker 5: they doing some dirty. Okay, if they got an issue
2:49:11
Speaker 5: with you audit and giving them an audit, they are
2:49:13
Speaker 5: doing some dirty. I tell people, I think I even audit.
2:49:17
Speaker 6: I was doing it.
2:49:17
Speaker 5: I was talking to my auditor on the show auditor.
2:49:21
Speaker 1: To the podcast auditor.
2:49:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, everybody, everyone, everyone, I mean, why not right, because
2:49:31
Speaker 5: like he said, I didn't go I'm I'm My financial
2:49:34
Speaker 5: literacy is very low.
2:49:36
Speaker 6: I don't understand stocks.
2:49:38
Speaker 5: I don't understand the dividends and revenue that comes in
2:49:42
Speaker 5: off a percentage of stocks that I have my roth
2:49:46
Speaker 5: r A. I don't understand that. So when they sends
2:49:49
Speaker 5: me messages and I'm like, oh, that's up, but I don't.
2:49:56
Speaker 6: Know what that.
2:49:56
Speaker 1: I know, but that's finance. Assholes do different things like
2:49:59
Speaker 1: calling things base point. Yeah, like it's twenty basements you
2:50:01
Speaker 1: mean two percent? Just say just say a number, man,
2:50:05
Speaker 1: so I can know what it is base points. Yeah,
2:50:07
Speaker 1: we're talking about it.
2:50:07
Speaker 5: They want to talk that language to make us say
2:50:10
Speaker 5: like we need them.
2:50:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, like we do we do, Yeah, yeah,
2:50:14
Speaker 6: we do.
2:50:14
Speaker 1: I'm not going to out there looking at the market
2:50:17
Speaker 1: today going no.
2:50:17
Speaker 5: I'm not either.
2:50:19
Speaker 6: Now I'm not either. Yeah, but I will audit your ass.
2:50:23
Speaker 1: If you work with Delanny once a year, you'll he'll
2:50:25
Speaker 1: text me and like send me all our text messages.
2:50:27
Speaker 1: Make sure you and I are good. Yeah I might
2:50:30
Speaker 1: be gone. So I do appreciate you telling that story.
2:50:38
Speaker 1: There's a lot there's a lot of guys out there
2:50:39
Speaker 1: that might be going through right now, might not know
2:50:42
Speaker 1: that they're about to go through it or have been
2:50:43
Speaker 1: through it, And it takes a lot of courage to
2:50:45
Speaker 1: like talk about it publicly.
2:50:47
Speaker 14: You know, if I can if I can leave leave
2:50:51
Speaker 14: being invited with anything, if I can leave the sports
2:50:55
Speaker 14: guys with anything, athletes.
2:51:04
Speaker 6: I don't know I was going with that. Man, I
2:51:07
Speaker 6: might be Oh, I know it was.
2:51:10
Speaker 14: I know it was make sure just like any of
2:51:14
Speaker 14: us know at this point when you got a team
2:51:17
Speaker 14: full of just guys, when you got a team full
2:51:20
Speaker 14: of pro bowlers, when you got a team full of
2:51:22
Speaker 14: all pros, like the difference and how it how the
2:51:25
Speaker 14: team is and the reason why I this made sense
2:51:28
Speaker 14: and now I loved it because my final guys that
2:51:30
Speaker 14: I have, the last one I have now, he him
2:51:34
Speaker 14: and I was talking and he was like, Pat, He's like,
2:51:37
Speaker 14: you gotta get pro bowlers around you. He said, you
2:51:40
Speaker 14: gotta work with pro bowler. He said, you're a pro bowler.
2:51:43
Speaker 6: You have to work with pro bowlers, he said, because
2:51:46
Speaker 6: if not, he's just working with just guys. He's like, yeah,
2:51:50
Speaker 6: they might go hard, said, but they're not gonna understand
2:51:52
Speaker 6: like what how you need to be or the elevation.
2:51:55
Speaker 6: It was the way he was putting in these like
2:51:56
Speaker 6: and if you can get an all pro, you know,
2:51:58
Speaker 6: those are special and that's no us been on any
2:52:01
Speaker 6: team when we when We've been on teams where you
2:52:03
Speaker 6: don't have nobody on the team to make the Pro Bowl.
2:52:05
Speaker 6: Usually your team is not very good, very good. Yeah,
2:52:09
Speaker 6: you know, you get Pro Bowlers whatnot.
2:52:10
Speaker 14: Now you you getting to the playoffs and whatnot, and
2:52:13
Speaker 14: then you get some all pros you like, Man, you're
2:52:15
Speaker 14: getting close to maybe making appearance at the Super Bowl
2:52:18
Speaker 14: and different things. And so that's what I would recommend
2:52:21
Speaker 14: any athletes that, Man, if you're all American in college,
2:52:25
Speaker 14: make sure you get you an all American finance person.
2:52:28
Speaker 6: And also I make sure you're taxed like them taxes too.
2:52:31
Speaker 6: People don't talk about them, yeah taxi yeah yeah. So
2:52:37
Speaker 6: but no, man, it's it's it's been a journey.
2:52:40
Speaker 14: But each day, I always say, regardless of how crazy
2:52:42
Speaker 14: life is, though, if you if if you're able to
2:52:46
Speaker 14: wake up and open your eyes and you're breathing, man,
2:52:52
Speaker 14: you can do something about your situation. It's just it's
2:52:55
Speaker 14: a it's a mentality, it's a mindset, and so that's
2:52:57
Speaker 14: why part of you want to feel sorry. That's why
2:53:00
Speaker 14: I couldn't necessarily feel sorry, and that's why it took
2:53:02
Speaker 14: me so long to I call it be vulnerable, because
2:53:04
Speaker 14: I was like I was hard on myself. I was like,
2:53:07
Speaker 14: but sometimes I but now I realized, like sometimes being
2:53:11
Speaker 14: vulnerable is being being strong in certain aspects or whatnot.
2:53:15
Speaker 1: And so, yeah, did we appreciate you coming on this? Okay? Sorry,
2:53:20
Speaker 1: sorry we had talk about He brought up one thing
2:53:22
Speaker 1: in that last statement. But the super Bowl. Oh we
2:53:26
Speaker 1: went to the Super Bowl lighting the lights cut off.
2:53:30
Speaker 1: Both of you were there. I would love to hear
2:53:32
Speaker 1: your perspectives.
2:53:33
Speaker 2: Was that?
2:53:34
Speaker 1: Was that the NFL Illuminati? Was that what was going
2:53:39
Speaker 1: on there?
2:53:39
Speaker 5: I'll let him give his side on it first.
2:53:43
Speaker 14: Honestly, it was crazy because that's that was twice in
2:53:47
Speaker 14: in the same year that we had lights go out
2:53:49
Speaker 14: in some form of fashion. The year, I mean earlier
2:53:52
Speaker 14: that season, we was playing Pittsburgh Monday night, Monday night
2:53:56
Speaker 14: and the lights went out in Candlestick and I was like, what, like,
2:54:00
Speaker 14: y'all would be on everything the lights go out, and I.
2:54:02
Speaker 6: Try to be the one of the wirdows. But I
2:54:04
Speaker 6: watched too many movies growing.
2:54:05
Speaker 14: Up, you know, and then when you're in the country,
2:54:07
Speaker 14: you got nothing to do but be outside your mind,
2:54:09
Speaker 14: you know, it can go to many places whatnot. And
2:54:11
Speaker 14: then all of a sudden we go to the Super
2:54:15
Speaker 14: Bowl and were in all places, were in New Orleans.
2:54:17
Speaker 14: You know, all the weird stuff to be down in
2:54:19
Speaker 14: New Orleans, like a lot of a lot of a
2:54:23
Speaker 14: lot of strange stuff. And so I said to say,
2:54:26
Speaker 14: whatever whatever happened that day, we needed it because there
2:54:31
Speaker 14: was whopping my ass that at first, there was whopping
2:54:35
Speaker 14: my ass all the way into them lights went out,
2:54:37
Speaker 14: what night? And I and I credited to say, then
2:54:39
Speaker 14: allays say, if you've been there before, like the team
2:54:41
Speaker 14: that's been there before, like they usually going to be
2:54:43
Speaker 14: the team night, they have a little bit more like calmness,
2:54:45
Speaker 14: like you can tell they've been there before. Man, I
2:54:48
Speaker 14: couldn't feel my I couldn't feel my feet, I couldn't
2:54:51
Speaker 14: feel my body. I feel like I was having an
2:54:52
Speaker 14: out of body experience all week. And when that game,
2:54:55
Speaker 14: when the games and when the ball snapped, I still
2:54:58
Speaker 14: felt like I was like, holy crap, man was like,
2:55:01
Speaker 14: it is it that many odds watching? I just feel
2:55:03
Speaker 14: like I was. I feel like I wouldn't even I
2:55:06
Speaker 14: don't even there, but I say it to say, there
2:55:09
Speaker 14: was whooping our tails. And then when the lights went off,
2:55:11
Speaker 14: we were able to go in there and get a
2:55:12
Speaker 14: little get a Revival. I don't know how where it
2:55:15
Speaker 14: came from, but we came back out and man, we
2:55:18
Speaker 14: played that kind of ball and I'm like, man, this
2:55:19
Speaker 14: is actually what we were supposed to been doing the
2:55:21
Speaker 14: whole time. But so, yeah, I don't know what that
2:55:24
Speaker 14: that was. I thought it was crazy though.
2:55:26
Speaker 5: Yeah, like my theory on it, like obviously, like he said,
2:55:31
Speaker 5: they were blowing us out, but Vegas the odds of
2:55:37
Speaker 5: the odds. People need to go back and look at
2:55:40
Speaker 5: the odds.
2:55:41
Speaker 1: Yeah, look at the odds, Like what did the odds say?
2:55:47
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like, before the lights even went out,
2:55:50
Speaker 5: I saw dudes with suits. You didn't see the dudes
2:55:53
Speaker 5: with the suits, like coming out on the field before
2:55:55
Speaker 5: the lights went out, all the NFL suits because offense
2:55:59
Speaker 5: was out. Offense, we were we were up. We were
2:56:02
Speaker 5: up on offenses out there when the lights went out.
2:56:04
Speaker 5: We was just we was on offense and the lights
2:56:06
Speaker 5: go out. But I'm sitting on the sideline because i'm
2:56:09
Speaker 5: you know, Vernon is and it was I think it
2:56:11
Speaker 5: was Vernon Bruce Miller they were in. So I'm on
2:56:13
Speaker 5: the sidelight waiting and I started seeing suits walk up
2:56:17
Speaker 5: and I kind of thought that ship was weird. And
2:56:19
Speaker 5: then it boom, Remember how it kind of boom. It
2:56:23
Speaker 5: went like that, and then it didn't go out. It
2:56:26
Speaker 5: went like slow. Memory was like lights still going and
2:56:30
Speaker 5: it wasn't all. It went dark and then the lights
2:56:32
Speaker 5: came back on like a little bit, and then we
2:56:35
Speaker 5: went in.
2:56:35
Speaker 6: It was like real dim.
2:56:37
Speaker 5: It's like they dimmed the lights. Bro I don't know,
2:56:40
Speaker 5: it was weird. See see something when you.
2:56:44
Speaker 14: Get to have a conversation and I started, now my
2:56:46
Speaker 14: mom like ship man, what was I still don't know
2:56:49
Speaker 14: how to I be thinking it's amazing.
2:56:50
Speaker 6: W i' be saying you do when I be seeing
2:56:52
Speaker 6: you guys, I'll be checking, I'll be watching You'll show.
2:56:56
Speaker 5: Let's go.
2:57:00
Speaker 6: Different things in the nature. I'm like, shit, man, how
2:57:02
Speaker 6: do you know the point spread? How do you know
2:57:04
Speaker 6: all that?
2:57:04
Speaker 14: I might say, that's too confused. That's why I'm glad
2:57:06
Speaker 14: I never That's why I'm glad I did not get
2:57:08
Speaker 14: into the whole betting thing, because don't I.
2:57:11
Speaker 6: Don't understand how it works, and I'm I'm glad I don't.
2:57:13
Speaker 6: But now I'm kind of curious.
2:57:15
Speaker 1: So what I'll shoot your part like, so I think
2:57:19
Speaker 1: the odds.
2:57:20
Speaker 6: I think it was like it was probably.
2:57:24
Speaker 5: The spread was the Ravens was plus three and a half.
2:57:30
Speaker 1: I think somethings, you guys. That means the forty nine
2:57:33
Speaker 1: ers were favored to win by more than three or
2:57:35
Speaker 1: at three and a half points.
2:57:36
Speaker 6: No, no, I'm sorry.
2:57:38
Speaker 5: The forty nine ers was plus three now, okay, so
2:57:40
Speaker 5: that Ravens was dogs. Yeah, so and they were blowing
2:57:43
Speaker 5: us out. It was like what twenty one three at
2:57:45
Speaker 5: the time, it was like twenty one three, and we
2:57:48
Speaker 5: was it was second the second quarter, like eight minutes
2:57:52
Speaker 5: left before we had went into the half. Boom, lights
2:57:55
Speaker 5: go out. Literally like he just Jacobe takes a kick
2:58:00
Speaker 5: off return back. He takes that kickoff return back. After
2:58:03
Speaker 5: we kick a field goal, he takes it back. Were like, damn,
2:58:06
Speaker 5: we going offense. The lights go out. I promise you.
2:58:09
Speaker 5: People start coming out. Lights go out. They let us
2:58:11
Speaker 5: go in the locker room. We going to the locker
2:58:14
Speaker 5: room for a second, for a minute, for a minute,
2:58:17
Speaker 5: were going over plays all this right, we come out.
2:58:22
Speaker 5: The Ravens are hyping up their crowd. They dancing around
2:58:25
Speaker 5: because like I said, it's like twenty one to three.
2:58:28
Speaker 5: We stretching we start doing our stretch lines. We're doing
2:58:31
Speaker 5: our individual the old line. You know how we do
2:58:34
Speaker 5: the old line? Run deaconse do they set? We do
2:58:37
Speaker 5: all like if it's a new game again. And then
2:58:40
Speaker 5: the lights pop back on. We like out of nowhere,
2:58:43
Speaker 5: lights come on. They're like, all right, oh, let's start
2:58:46
Speaker 5: where we was at. They dropped the ball. I think
2:58:49
Speaker 5: Frank Gore bus on the first play and the momentum
2:58:53
Speaker 5: switch and then we the defense, y'all starts shutting them down.
2:58:56
Speaker 5: Then we start scoring points. Were going to halftime.
2:58:58
Speaker 6: We're like, this is what we always been.
2:59:00
Speaker 5: We come back kids, we always come back.
2:59:02
Speaker 6: We know we got this game.
2:59:04
Speaker 5: They old you know we in there is like they
2:59:06
Speaker 5: oh they getting tired. They jumped on as quick because
2:59:08
Speaker 5: they've been here before. Like he said, we come out there,
2:59:13
Speaker 5: we get back to the game. We down, we four,
2:59:17
Speaker 5: we lost.
2:59:18
Speaker 6: That's that's why. That's why we're going with it. When
2:59:20
Speaker 6: you said what the point spread was, I was like, whoa.
2:59:22
Speaker 5: We lost by four and what the rest do At
2:59:24
Speaker 5: the end we ended up losing. They called they didn't
2:59:27
Speaker 5: call no p I S. I still we didn't run
2:59:30
Speaker 5: the ball. We was on the four yard line. We
2:59:36
Speaker 5: ain't gonna get to us that they get into it,
2:59:39
Speaker 5: but look into it. Look into it.
2:59:43
Speaker 6: We throw.
2:59:45
Speaker 5: We throw three passes. They huggled every pass, don't even
2:59:49
Speaker 5: let us get off the ball. They never throw a
2:59:51
Speaker 5: flag and I don't and I still to this day
2:59:54
Speaker 5: don't know why we didn't run it.
2:59:56
Speaker 14: I know because again, I'm gonna say this to you, guys, man,
3:00:00
Speaker 14: and I've said it before. For a while, I didn't
3:00:02
Speaker 14: want to necessarily talk to talk to Harball after that game.
3:00:05
Speaker 14: And I won't put it on him because we lost
3:00:08
Speaker 14: as a team, but the fact that we didn't run
3:00:12
Speaker 14: that ball rewind the training camp. In training camp and
3:00:16
Speaker 14: Hardball got up and he talked about how how we
3:00:19
Speaker 14: had the best offensive line. He was talking about yeah,
3:00:21
Speaker 14: and then he went to the line and he said,
3:00:23
Speaker 14: we have the best offensive line in all the football
3:00:27
Speaker 14: and arguably, if not the best, one of the best
3:00:31
Speaker 14: power slash runners the game has ever seen. In Frank
3:00:34
Speaker 14: Gored fast forwarded, we're on a freaking five or four
3:00:38
Speaker 14: yard line, and I think we run the ball the first.
3:00:41
Speaker 6: Time with the running back Mike Michael. We wanted we
3:00:47
Speaker 6: run the first time with him, and then yeah, and
3:00:51
Speaker 6: then and then three plays and then three times after that,
3:00:54
Speaker 6: we don't give the ball to the best with the
3:00:57
Speaker 6: best offensive line. Lodianada was not coming out with not
3:01:00
Speaker 6: coming off the ball anymore. Ray was not even coming down.
3:01:02
Speaker 6: He was even able to cut down hill.
3:01:04
Speaker 5: He had one tackle the whole.
3:01:05
Speaker 14: Yeah, he brother able to come downhill and we don't
3:01:07
Speaker 14: and we don't run the ball. And so I didn't
3:01:10
Speaker 14: know if that was a I didn't know what that was.
3:01:12
Speaker 14: I said, Man, if this is a hardball moment where
3:01:15
Speaker 14: he just wanted he want his guys like to score
3:01:18
Speaker 14: or something like, Man, I don't know.
3:01:19
Speaker 6: I didn't know how to I didn't know how to
3:01:21
Speaker 6: take it. I still this day, you can't do that
3:01:23
Speaker 6: about the pass.
3:01:23
Speaker 5: But it's just you know, how I've seen it is
3:01:26
Speaker 5: he wanted Kaepernick to get m VP of the game,
3:01:30
Speaker 5: and that that was the mindset I think that he
3:01:33
Speaker 5: had when he thought about throwing the ball three times.
3:01:36
Speaker 5: Because if if you do go back and when you
3:01:39
Speaker 5: look at our run game, they couldn't stop fing, they
3:01:42
Speaker 5: couldn't stop Frank And I don't know if you remember this,
3:01:46
Speaker 5: but after the game, Jim Harball comes in and go.
3:01:49
Speaker 6: That's on me, said I didn't see that on me.
3:01:52
Speaker 5: I messed that that's on me because he you know,
3:01:56
Speaker 5: he realized we probably should have ran that ball at that.
3:01:59
Speaker 1: Moment, man, and just all the hardball you've seen since then,
3:02:03
Speaker 1: everything's run game. Yeahs like, oh you want that as well. Yeah,
3:02:07
Speaker 1: we had bere tonight is running.
3:02:11
Speaker 5: And you know it's just because, if anything, Frank probably
3:02:15
Speaker 5: would have scored that touchdown. Frank was gonna be the
3:02:17
Speaker 5: MVP of the game.
3:02:18
Speaker 6: And he's definitely and.
3:02:19
Speaker 14: He rightfully sh reminds me of that eighty five eighty
3:02:25
Speaker 14: five barriers when they didn't get the ball to watter Peyton.
3:02:28
Speaker 6: Yeah.
3:02:28
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was like, man, that just felt just it
3:02:32
Speaker 14: felt like that kind of movement. And then a year
3:02:34
Speaker 14: later or two years later, we see what happened in
3:02:36
Speaker 14: Seattle and I was like, I said, man, which makes.
3:02:40
Speaker 6: Me want I'm like, man, it's something What the hell
3:02:42
Speaker 6: going on?
3:02:43
Speaker 1: Man?
3:02:43
Speaker 9: Right?
3:02:45
Speaker 6: Man?
3:02:45
Speaker 1: I wish we'd keep you longer. I know you probably
3:02:47
Speaker 1: got a boogy out of here.
3:02:51
Speaker 2: Question Oh but like question people, will you know how
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Speaker 2: everybody would do anything for a nice cool bud Like
3:02:57
Speaker 2: what is something that Patrick Willis would do anything for?
3:03:05
Speaker 1: Bud light? Yeah? But bud light.
3:03:07
Speaker 2: People do anything for bud light. They wouldn't think what
3:03:09
Speaker 2: is something that.
3:03:10
Speaker 1: You would do anything for? Can't say, can't say family,
3:03:14
Speaker 1: not a bud light, But what what.
3:03:16
Speaker 2: Is your bud light in this scenario? What would you
3:03:18
Speaker 2: do anything for? It can be ambition, yeah.
3:03:22
Speaker 1: Boat, Yeah, having Frank Gore run the ball, you know what,
3:03:33
Speaker 1: maybe not speak up in that team meeting, you know what.
3:03:35
Speaker 14: Yeah, I would say this personally, it'd have been nice to,
3:03:41
Speaker 14: you know, have a defensive Player of the year, just
3:03:45
Speaker 14: to better say like I was a defensive Player of
3:03:47
Speaker 14: the year. But nothing still sounds better other than the
3:03:52
Speaker 14: Hall of Fame induction. Nothing sounds better than hearing like
3:03:57
Speaker 14: super Bowl champion and Hall of Fame like such and such,
3:04:01
Speaker 14: and so I would probably say, man, too bare to
3:04:04
Speaker 14: get that Super Bowl, that one. That's only when I
3:04:07
Speaker 14: went to I can't sit in and say, oh, you know,
3:04:08
Speaker 14: it'd been nice to go to that one. And but
3:04:11
Speaker 14: I would probably say the one we played in to
3:04:13
Speaker 14: get that Super Bowl would have been Yeah, that would
3:04:16
Speaker 14: be my butt.
3:04:17
Speaker 2: Like is there a year that you felt like you
3:04:18
Speaker 2: got Defensive Player of the Year?
3:04:21
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, No, I won't.
3:04:23
Speaker 1: I won't.
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Speaker 14: I won't say that I could have looking looking back
3:04:26
Speaker 14: on it now and understanding like how much goes into it.
3:04:30
Speaker 14: But I feel like I maybe my either my third
3:04:34
Speaker 14: year or maybe fifth year, and there somewhere like I was.
3:04:38
Speaker 14: They had talked about it, like it was like being discussed,
3:04:40
Speaker 14: but then when it came to the honors or whatnot,
3:04:42
Speaker 14: I don't know if I was even even considered up
3:04:46
Speaker 14: there oralists, yeah, the finalists or had they didn't even
3:04:50
Speaker 14: or I wouldn't even, but I know they've been they
3:04:53
Speaker 14: was having conversations about it whatnot. But I just feel
3:04:55
Speaker 14: like that would have been something good to do. I
3:04:57
Speaker 14: feel like that had been something good too to have.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 6: I mean it's all personal stuff though, man.
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