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Speaker 1: Hi, get everybody.
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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Hoard and thanks for downloading The Bengals Booth Podcast.
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Speaker 2: The Hey California Waiting addition, as the Bengals head to
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Speaker 2: San Francisco, or more accurately Santa Clara to take on
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Speaker 2: the five and two forty nine ers. Coming up, I'll
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Speaker 2: visit with the legendary Jim Nantz, who will be in
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Speaker 2: the booth for CBS on Sunday. Bengals Safety's coach Rob
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Speaker 2: Livingston discusses the challenge of trying to defend a Kyle
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Speaker 2: Shanahan offense, and this week's Know the Faux segment, we'll
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Speaker 3: Of the Bengals.
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Speaker 2: the greatest thing since kind celebrities. In just a moment,
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Speaker 2: you're going to hear my conversation with one of the
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Speaker 2: most famous sports broadcasters of all time, Jim Natz. Every
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Speaker 2: time I talk to Jim, My admiration for him grows.
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Speaker 2: For a celebrity of his magnitude, he is one of
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Speaker 2: the nicest, most genuine people you could ever meet. I've
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Speaker 2: been around another megastar who is similar, Dick Vitel, who
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Speaker 2: always takes time for fans regardless of the circumstances. Many
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Speaker 2: years ago, when I was a college student at Syracuse
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Speaker 2: and people still had home answering machines, I asked Dick
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Speaker 2: Vitel if he would record my outgoing message. Here was
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Speaker 2: the result.
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Speaker 4: Hi, everybody else is dig Vital of ESPN and EBC.
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Speaker 4: My buddy Dan's not home right now. Right now, he's
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Speaker 4: out at the Dome. He's working with the cubes. He's
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Speaker 4: trying to help my man, Jimmy Beheim. Remember call my
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Speaker 4: PTP buddy, my guy a prime time performer, Big Dan.
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Speaker 2: That was a big hit at the time. But there
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Speaker 2: was one problem. I came home to a ton of
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Speaker 2: messages every day, only to listen to a bunch of
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Speaker 2: people hanging up after hearing Dick Vital. In any case,
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Speaker 2: I consider Jim Nance and Dick Vital to be awesome
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Speaker 2: baby with a capital A. Now time for my conversation
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Speaker 2: with the guy who will be behind the mic for
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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl this year. It is a Nance and
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Speaker 2: Romo game this Sunday, and it is a thrill for
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Speaker 2: me to visit with one of my broadcasting heroes, the
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Speaker 2: great Jim Nance. Tim The Bengals started zero to two.
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Speaker 2: Now they're three and three. Joe Burrow appears to be
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Speaker 2: close to one hundred percent. Are the Bengals back or
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Speaker 2: do you still have some questions?
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Speaker 5: Now?
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Speaker 6: I have no questions. First off, Dan, great to be
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Speaker 6: back with. You've got a nice little thing going here
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Speaker 6: on a year to year basis. So I'm going to
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Speaker 6: call this for what it is now, a tradition unlike
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Speaker 6: any other. Okay, So I don't know. It seems like
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Speaker 6: I may have said that somewhere, but it really it
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Speaker 6: really fits right here right now. They're back. They're back,
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Speaker 6: and they're on the same path that they had last year. Bumpy,
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Speaker 6: start figure it out. Start winning games a big threat
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Speaker 6: at the end. That's what I expect.
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Speaker 2: Anyway, you and Tony have called many of their biggest
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Speaker 2: games over the last couple of years. What do you
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Speaker 2: enjoy about watching and broadcasting a Cincinnati Bengals game with
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Speaker 2: this particular team.
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Speaker 6: Well, I, believe it or not, For me, it starts
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Speaker 6: behind the scenes. I enjoy dealing, if that's the right word,
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Speaker 6: with that organization. They got a very sharp, by the way,
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Speaker 6: pr team. I don't get to extol this very often,
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Speaker 6: but for someone who wants to read everything and seeks information, UH,
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Speaker 6: PJ and his crew, they're on top of it. They're
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Speaker 6: already like loading me up with material times ten. It's
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Speaker 6: most in the league. So it starts there, believe it
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Speaker 6: or not, at the ground level, so that I get prepared.
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Speaker 6: And then when I meet with the Bengals, Uh, they're
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Speaker 6: just terrific. UH this week for example, UH, talking to
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Speaker 6: the head coach, the decordinator of the offensive coordinator. They're
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Speaker 6: all great. They're great guys, and they give us tremendous
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Speaker 6: insight into the game. They're all very well spoken and insightful,
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Speaker 6: so they're helpful. What I like is they're exciting and
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Speaker 6: that's what the fans like. You know, the fans like
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Speaker 6: with Cincinnati, anythink can happen on both sides of the ball.
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Speaker 6: You know, their defense is starting to roll now. Like
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Speaker 6: I said, Joe's starting to look healthy and once he
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Speaker 6: is back at full throttle, which after a bye week,
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Speaker 6: maybe this week he will be, and you get back
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Speaker 6: to have that combo on both sides. Of course, Boyd
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Speaker 6: can come in and do what he did in the
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Speaker 6: last game. This is an exciting team. This is an
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Speaker 6: exciting team. There's opportunity here for them. The season did
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Speaker 6: not get away from them, even with that poor start
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Speaker 6: the right back of the mix. But this is a
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Speaker 6: tough assignment, as you know, coming off a bye and
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Speaker 6: going into a Hornets nets where he's gonna get a
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Speaker 6: very angry forty nine er team waiting for them after
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Speaker 6: they've just lost two away from home. It's going to
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Speaker 6: be a good matchup.
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Speaker 2: There's more network crossover than there used to be, but
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Speaker 2: CBS is still the primary home for AFC games, and
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Speaker 2: that means an unbelievable gauntlet of quarterbacks this year. It's
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Speaker 2: probably unprecedented. Where does Burrow fit in your opinion?
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Speaker 6: I hate to make this list up Dan, because I
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Speaker 6: always feel like I'm going to leave one of them out.
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Speaker 6: But look, he's been to the AFC Championship Game multiple times,
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Speaker 6: he's played in the Super Bowl. His record, I mean,
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Speaker 6: what he's done in just fourth year, it's it's insane.
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Speaker 6: You got the guy over in Buffalo, you got the
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Speaker 6: guy in Kansas City, you got the guy down in Miami,
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Speaker 6: you got the guy in Baltimore, you got the guy
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Speaker 6: at the Chargers. By the way, you got the guy
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Speaker 6: at Houston. That's going to be a force. Stroud's going
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Speaker 6: to be a force.
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Speaker 1: Man. It is.
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Speaker 6: It is just his player after player. I've never seen
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Speaker 6: one conference so rich with quarterbacks. And you look at
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Speaker 6: it and they're all franchised guys. You start to think
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Speaker 6: the next crop coming out. Sure, there are still teams
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Speaker 6: that are looking for quarterbacks, but there's like a lot
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Speaker 6: of teams on the AFC side, they're locked in. They've
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Speaker 6: got their guy for the next decade, including a Cincinnati.
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Speaker 6: So uh, it's a It gives us You're right, we
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Speaker 6: are still the primary flagship network of the AFC, and
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Speaker 6: it gives us a lot of great matchups to choose.
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Speaker 1: Trump.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the other quarterback, Brock Purty. Have we
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Speaker 2: seen enough at this point it's about a full season
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Speaker 2: if you include the playoffs last year. Have we seen
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Speaker 2: enough to consider him to be in the upper echelon.
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Speaker 6: I don't want to take anything away from what he's accomplished.
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Speaker 6: He's coming off two losses with injured players around him,
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Speaker 6: and I had McCaffrey back this last week. He's not
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Speaker 6: one hundred percent. No debout Deebo Samuel, but it has
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Speaker 6: been Hey, it has been an amazing journey for him
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Speaker 6: as the last pick in the draft a year ago.
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Speaker 6: It is not putting him down in any capacity, but
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Speaker 6: you got to see multiple years in the postseason. I
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Speaker 6: think he has that hit factor that goes with not
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Speaker 6: only the ability to lead a team down the field,
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Speaker 6: to make the right decisions in microseconds, to figure out
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Speaker 6: where to go with the football. I mean's the real
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Speaker 6: speed is. It's just crazy how you figure out where
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Speaker 6: you need to go in the windows you need to hit.
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Speaker 6: He's done all of that. He's done at a remarkably
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Speaker 6: high level and with speed from a rookie to now
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Speaker 6: just in his second year. It's amazing. But you know
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Speaker 6: you're talking about elite. You've got guys like number nine Cincinnati.
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Speaker 6: You can't compare what Brock has done because just hasn't
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Speaker 6: enough time yet to what Joe has done or what
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Speaker 6: Patrick has done. Or even though Josh Allen hasn't taken
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Speaker 6: Buffalo to a super Bowl, they've been in an AFC
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Speaker 6: Championship game. They've been in the playoffs multiple years, so
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Speaker 6: you got to see more work. But the kid is good.
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Speaker 6: The kid is better than good. And there's more than
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Speaker 6: just the way he makes these decisions. Something about the
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Speaker 6: way he carries himself way beyond his years. There's an
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Speaker 6: ease and a comfort, a confidence, not an overconfidence. I
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Speaker 6: was on a station this week in San Francisco and
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Speaker 6: they were making comparisons. They tried to make it combarrasson
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Speaker 6: to Rock Perty and my partner Tony Romo, and I said, no,
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Speaker 6: I don't see it. Maybe you got the long shot
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Speaker 6: story where Tony was undrafted Perdy was the last pick
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Speaker 6: in the draft. There, you can draw a comparison in
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Speaker 6: terms of style. They don't throw it the same way,
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Speaker 6: they don't run around in the pocket the same way.
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Speaker 6: He reminds me more of a Joe Montana again, talking
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Speaker 6: about one of the legends of the game with the
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Speaker 6: test of time. To look at that record versus a
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Speaker 6: body of work here that's got one year behind it.
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Speaker 6: So comparisons are dangerous, especially when you're talking early on.
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Speaker 6: But the kids got something special happening. I know that,
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Speaker 6: and players play for him.
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Speaker 3: We're visiting with Jim Nantz.
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Speaker 2: Let's talk for a moment about Jamar Chase, who is
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Speaker 2: among the NFL leaders in receptions. He's on a pace
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Speaker 2: for one hundred and forty two. The Bengals team record
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Speaker 2: is one twelve. When you watch that Burrow to Chase combination,
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Speaker 2: what stands out It looks unstoppable.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 6: The first memory I have of it, of course you'll
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Speaker 6: you'll know it well your audience will too. Was that
10:07
Speaker 6: regular season game at Cincinnati against Kansas City. What he
10:13
Speaker 6: lit up the Chiefs for three touchdowns and I believe
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Speaker 6: it was two hundred and twenty six yards. That was
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Speaker 6: awesome to watch. And of course they went on to
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Speaker 6: meet in the AFC Championship and he did some things
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Speaker 6: that you just don't see anywhere. So that was an
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Speaker 6: incredible day by the way at Cincinnati, and that game
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Speaker 6: was back and forth, just a while affair. You remember
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Speaker 6: at the end of the game, the coaches played it
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Speaker 6: just right and Joe got knocked out late in that game,
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Speaker 6: Brendan Allen, who's going to be the third quarterback this
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Speaker 6: week for the forty nine ers, came in and took
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Speaker 6: those last few snaps before the game winning field goal.
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Speaker 6: But that was an amazing day in the jungle. And
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Speaker 6: that's the biggest memory I have with Jamar Chase. I
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Speaker 6: had a front row seat to one of the great
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Speaker 6: performances ever seen by a wide receiver in my nearly
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Speaker 6: forty years.
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Speaker 2: You also had one of the all time great calls
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Speaker 2: on one of his big plays in that game, Chase
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Speaker 2: there is no Chase as he as he pulled away
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Speaker 2: from the posse.
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Speaker 6: I wasn't sure what I said, So when you were
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Speaker 6: starting down there that path a moment ago, I was thinking, Oh,
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Speaker 6: I hope it was good.
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Speaker 3: It's really good.
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Speaker 6: I don't know, well, thank you. Yeah. I was running
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Speaker 6: out of superlatives that day. My reservoir of superlatives had expired.
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Speaker 6: But he's fun to watch. We've had some good production
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Speaker 6: meetings with him too, So I'm looking forward to this game,
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Speaker 6: believe it or not. And You guys know it all
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Speaker 6: too well. When you go to the Super Bowl, San
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Speaker 6: Francisco is always there waiting for you. But it's our year.
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Speaker 6: We go every three years. It's our year to be
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Speaker 6: back with the big game February eleventh, and I'm thinking.
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Speaker 6: I know, people say, wait a minute, what's he talking about.
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Speaker 6: We're three and three. You know, forty nine ers are
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Speaker 6: stumbling now at five and two. It's a early It's
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Speaker 6: a long season. This could be our matchup, this could
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Speaker 6: be our we could be getting a little preview of
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Speaker 6: what we're going to see in February. I really believe it.
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Speaker 6: I'm not predicting, and I'm just saying I think there's
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Speaker 6: a chance and a good chance it could happen.
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Speaker 2: I have one final thing for you. It is not
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Speaker 2: related to the Cincinnati Bengals. It's related to something that
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Speaker 2: made the rounds on social media about a week ago.
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Speaker 3: You have a home near Pebble Beach. You are apparently
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Speaker 3: going for a walk.
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Speaker 2: Recently, you came upon a group that was playing the
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Speaker 2: famed seventh hole, and you took one of the golfer's
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Speaker 2: cell phones and did a little play by play, giving
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Speaker 2: him a memory for a lifetime. I love random acts
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Speaker 2: of kindness, which was great. Is that something you get
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Speaker 2: a kick out of I do get a.
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Speaker 3: Kick out of it.
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Speaker 6: I didn't ever expect something like that to get posted
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Speaker 6: or go viral. Last I heard, I think it was
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Speaker 6: over seven million hits. The truth is, Nan, I've done it,
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Speaker 6: not hundreds of times, thousands of times. I've lived at
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Speaker 6: Pebble Beach full time for eleven years and I still
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Speaker 6: live there part time. I'm going to be spending these
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Speaker 6: days leading up to the game in my house and
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Speaker 6: I'll be out on Pebble Beach golf links again, no
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Speaker 6: doubt doing this for any number of groups. Not because
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Speaker 6: I'm looking for something to do, but I get waved
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Speaker 6: over to come stay over to a group, and I
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Speaker 6: love people. I'm not going to blow anybody off and
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Speaker 6: speed past them in my golf cart that Ken Ventury
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Speaker 6: gave to me years ago. I'll pull over and go
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Speaker 6: shake hands. If they asked me to call one of
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Speaker 6: their shots, I will happily oblige. So that that video
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Speaker 6: that went viral, that's something I've done so much many
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Speaker 6: times I can't even begin to count. And that was
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Speaker 6: not recent, by the way, when I saw it. I
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Speaker 6: was shot because I had not been back in my
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Speaker 6: home since this summer, so I'm figuring it happened in
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Speaker 6: either June, July, or August of this summer. But this
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Speaker 6: summer alone, I probably did it several hundred times to
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Speaker 6: I can't say unsuspecting golfers, because they're the ones that
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Speaker 6: ask for it. I'll walk up and say, hey, guys,
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Speaker 6: can I come over and call some shots? They asked
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Speaker 6: for it, And again I'm happy to try to make
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Speaker 6: a memory for people. And I try to get creative too.
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Speaker 6: I know on that video that went viral I opened
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Speaker 6: up with tonight on CBS begins with sixty minutes. So
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Speaker 6: we're back here at the seventh hole. My new favorite
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Speaker 6: has become. Sounds terrible, It sounds a little smart of me,
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Speaker 6: but I take their phone. I normally record it because
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Speaker 6: I know how I want to. I can shoot the
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Speaker 6: shot probably better than someone hasn't done it before and
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Speaker 6: filed the ball. But I also have the microphone right
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Speaker 6: at the base of the phone, so my voice is
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Speaker 6: it's gonna come through a little clearer. But now I
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Speaker 6: start with the phone tilted to the sky and I'll
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Speaker 6: pick it up at mid sentence, and I'll be in
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Speaker 6: the middle of an old bits, a faux oh bit.
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Speaker 6: He was one of the great guys of all time,
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Speaker 6: and he will be missed. Pause, pause, pause, and I'll
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Speaker 6: bring the camera down and give that respectful space and pause,
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Speaker 6: and then I'll say, we're back here at the seventh hole,
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Speaker 6: and I'll go into my call, and I always include
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Speaker 6: Dottie Pepper, my colleague, Dottie. Where did that go? Oh, Dottie,
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Speaker 6: that was going right. I'm just being silly. I had
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Speaker 6: no idea it was become this viral video. But hey,
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Speaker 6: it's all good. It's all fun, and I love being
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Speaker 6: a bebble beach and I love being a part of
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Speaker 6: the experience with people. If they ask for it, I'm
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Speaker 6: not looking looking for it, but I'm happy to try
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Speaker 6: to make someone else happy.
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Speaker 2: And it comes as no surprise that you add production
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Speaker 2: value as one of the greatest broadcasters of all time, Jim,
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Speaker 2: this has been a treat It is a tradition unlike
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Speaker 2: any other. So I look forward to doing it again
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Speaker 2: in the future. Appreciate your time and look forward to
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Speaker 2: seeing you on Sunday.
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Speaker 6: Thank you, my friend. Look forward to the next time too.
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Speaker 6: All the very best.
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Speaker 2: If you haven't seen the video I referred to, just
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Speaker 2: search for Jim nance Pebble Beach and it will pop
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Speaker 2: right up. As I said at the beginning of this podcast,
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Speaker 2: you won't find a nicer, more friendly celebrity. I recorded
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Speaker 2: that conversation with Jim before the news broke on Wednesday
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Speaker 2: that Niners quarterback Brock Party is in concussion protocol. ESPN's
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Speaker 2: Adam Schefter says that Perty is unlikely to play, although
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Speaker 2: it is technically possible for him to clear concussion protocol
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Speaker 2: in time for Sunday's game. If he can't play, Sam
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Speaker 2: Darnold would start in his place. The former Jets and
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Speaker 2: Panthers quarterback was the third pick in the draft in
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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen and has started fifty five games in the NFL.
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Speaker 2: He has sixty one touchdown passes and fifty five interceptions,
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Speaker 2: but he's never played for an offensive mastermind like San
17:17
Speaker 2: Francisco coach Kyle Shanahan. The Niners are second in the
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Speaker 2: NFL in scoring at roughly twenty nine points a game,
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Speaker 2: and I discussed the challenge of facing that offense with
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Speaker 2: Bengals safety's coach Rob Livingston. Rober would seem to me
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Speaker 2: that the forty nine ers offense with the constant motion
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Speaker 2: and the heavy play action emphasis would be especially tough
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Speaker 2: on your position group, the safeties.
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Speaker 3: Is that true?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it is. It's a unique offense. Obviously. It starts
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Speaker 7: with the personnel, the people. You know, a top top
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Speaker 7: three tight end and he's not number three, so he's
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Speaker 7: one or two. How you view him, and then the
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Speaker 7: shifts and the motions and you know, the personnel in
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Speaker 7: terms of twenty one personnal. We don't see that a
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Speaker 7: lot here obviously, so it's different. You know, you gotta
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Speaker 7: have great eyes, gotta have a great plan, you know,
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Speaker 7: lose come up with a great play. We feel good
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Speaker 7: about it and just excited to get the week started.
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Speaker 7: And again there are some moving pieces that you got
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Speaker 7: to work through and make sure everybody kind of sees
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Speaker 7: it the same way. And that's why it's good. We
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Speaker 7: have a long week and the guys are excited.
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Speaker 3: About twenty one personnel fullback right.
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Speaker 7: The fullback. Some places that's gone the way of the
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Speaker 7: Dodo bird, but in San Francisco and Miami obviously has not.
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Speaker 7: And they do a great job with it. They can
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Speaker 7: make it look like you know, any personnel grouping like
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Speaker 7: three wide out, they can look like two tight ends.
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Speaker 7: And they're both special players. So forty four and eighty
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Speaker 7: five obviously are dynamic and everything they do and it
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Speaker 7: kind of all starts there for.
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Speaker 2: Us, excluding your own offensive coaching staff. Do you consider
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Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan to be the best play designer in the NFL?
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Speaker 7: Oh, yeah, he's up there for sure. Again, I think
18:46
Speaker 7: each week has its own challenges, so I'm a little
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Speaker 7: bit short sighted that way. But in the off season,
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Speaker 7: I think for sure, if you went and looked at
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Speaker 7: what they did and the compliments, you know, this play
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Speaker 7: looks the same, but it's the opposite. And I think
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Speaker 7: he does a great job putting his dynamic players position
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Speaker 7: to impact the game. And that's really what it's about.
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Speaker 7: I mean, with him, it's it's people, it's not plays,
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Speaker 7: and they really do a great job. Obviously, the back
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Speaker 7: is as unique as anybody in the NFL, and he's dynamic.
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Speaker 7: So what he's done, you know, with the run game
19:12
Speaker 7: and then the play actions off of that, you know,
19:14
Speaker 7: I think if you look at it, embarrassingly, I listen
19:18
Speaker 7: to play callers. The thing on the athletic every morning
19:22
Speaker 7: working out this summer in Montana and just his his mind,
19:26
Speaker 7: his his weekly preparation, the way he goes and kind
19:29
Speaker 7: of sees the game. It's it's unique. Obviously, it's in
19:32
Speaker 7: his blood. So it's all he's ever done, and he
19:34
Speaker 7: is a phenomenal challenge for sure.
19:36
Speaker 2: We're visiting the safety's coach, Rob Livingston. Nick Scott came
19:39
Speaker 2: from the Rams. He faced this team nine times over
19:42
Speaker 2: the last four years. Now, in some of those games
19:44
Speaker 2: he was just playing special teams. But still that's a
19:47
Speaker 2: bunch of exposure to the forty nine ers.
19:49
Speaker 3: Is that a big deal or not? Really?
19:51
Speaker 4: Oh?
19:51
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it always helps. You know, he's been
19:53
Speaker 7: in that environment. It's been a long time since we've
19:55
Speaker 7: been in San Francisco. So as simple as it is,
19:57
Speaker 7: you know, a let's talk about the grass, Nick, what's
19:59
Speaker 7: it like?
19:59
Speaker 8: The is it wed?
20:00
Speaker 7: Is it the old candlestick where it was kind of
20:02
Speaker 7: always wet? You know, what's the stadium like, what's the
20:04
Speaker 7: environment like? You know what should we think that way
20:07
Speaker 7: in terms of what it's gonna feel like. And then
20:09
Speaker 7: the offense, for sure, I mean we can try to
20:11
Speaker 7: replicate how fast it's gonna be in the shifts and
20:13
Speaker 7: the motions and all that kind of stuff. But he's
20:16
Speaker 7: lived it for sure, so have those conversations early in
20:19
Speaker 7: the week, and if he speaks to the group about it,
20:22
Speaker 7: he's got you know, open dialogue and he's got the
20:24
Speaker 7: floor so he'll kind of paint the picture for what
20:26
Speaker 7: it's gonna be like. And yeah, it's a phenomenal asset
20:29
Speaker 7: for sure. Again, it's not the the everything, but it helps.
20:32
Speaker 2: Let's talk about the secondary. I think it's easy to
20:34
Speaker 2: forget how young this group is. Of the guys that
20:37
Speaker 2: are playing. Where does that youth show up.
20:42
Speaker 7: Early in the week. You know, it's it's a new
20:45
Speaker 7: week obviously every week. So you know with those guys
20:49
Speaker 7: that they do a great job. You know Mondays and Tuesdays.
20:51
Speaker 7: You know, the leaders of this group, the Mike Hilton's,
20:52
Speaker 7: the Cheetos, the guys like that really kind of set
20:55
Speaker 7: the stage. They watch film together on Tuesdays and so
20:58
Speaker 7: some of the tough questions of at least come up
21:00
Speaker 7: by the time you come in the building on Wednesday.
21:02
Speaker 7: But you know, the great thing about young players is
21:04
Speaker 7: there eager. There's no scars, there's nothing that they can
21:07
Speaker 7: think back to of you know, Okay, I faced this
21:09
Speaker 7: guy before. It's their first time matching up or some
21:12
Speaker 7: so it's it's a phenomenal blessing. And you know, it
21:15
Speaker 7: really is unique, especially in my time here, to have
21:18
Speaker 7: this many young guys, and it gives you a different
21:21
Speaker 7: teaching environment. I guess, you know, you hate to say
21:23
Speaker 7: every young guy is different than how it used to be.
21:25
Speaker 7: You sound like that old guy yelling from your front porch,
21:28
Speaker 7: but you do find yourself, you know, how do you
21:30
Speaker 7: reach these guys. You got to learn the learner. That's
21:31
Speaker 7: our job as coaches, as teachers. So maybe it's not
21:34
Speaker 7: as much you know, just playbook stuff. Hey, let's go
21:37
Speaker 7: walk it out. Let's let's do this like half speed.
21:39
Speaker 7: Let's let's go in the turf air. Let's see some things.
21:42
Speaker 7: You know, here's some other teams doing the same technique.
21:44
Speaker 7: I think the more they can see other people doing
21:46
Speaker 7: what we're talking about the better. With teams like San Francisco,
21:50
Speaker 7: sometimes that can be a challenge because we haven't played
21:52
Speaker 7: them in a while, so you kind of spend your
21:53
Speaker 7: early part of the week making cut ups, trying to
21:55
Speaker 7: so they can see it, and then then it's just practice.
21:59
Speaker 7: You know again, that's why we do it. If we
22:00
Speaker 7: didn't need it, we would just show up on Sunday
22:02
Speaker 7: and everybody's life would be a lot easier. So try
22:04
Speaker 7: to put them in tough spots Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, so
22:07
Speaker 7: the again, the snakes are all on earth and you
22:09
Speaker 7: can see what you got and go from there.
22:11
Speaker 2: And Daxa's first year as a starter, he's got two
22:13
Speaker 2: interceptions and two sacks through six games.
22:16
Speaker 3: Evaluate his play.
22:17
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's been like most young players has been up
22:19
Speaker 7: and down. I've told Daxis so I'll say it to anybody.
22:21
Speaker 7: He could be, you know, as as great as anybody.
22:24
Speaker 7: He's God gave him a phenomenal athletic ability and he's
22:27
Speaker 7: he's a unique athlete that way. You know, playing the
22:30
Speaker 7: position full time for the first time this year, you know,
22:32
Speaker 7: training camp was was great for him to just get
22:35
Speaker 7: his feet set and go play again. Nick Scott said,
22:38
Speaker 7: you know, you can't really learn to play safety. You
22:40
Speaker 7: have to play safety. It's like if somebody says, hey,
22:42
Speaker 7: I'm gonna teach you how to play basketball in a classroom, Well, no,
22:44
Speaker 7: you're not. You have to go play basketball. So the
22:47
Speaker 7: more reps these guys get the you know, the better
22:49
Speaker 7: they are. It's just how it is and in any profession,
22:51
Speaker 7: so it's exciting, you know. I think the whole group
22:53
Speaker 7: has really kind of taken strides and and we're just
22:56
Speaker 7: working on being consistent. I think with any young player,
22:58
Speaker 7: with any team that has guys that are playing together
23:00
Speaker 7: for the first time, consistencies what you're looking for. So
23:03
Speaker 7: that's our goal here for the next half of the season.
23:06
Speaker 2: We're chatting in safeties coach Rob Livingston. Your position group
23:09
Speaker 2: also includes a thirty three year old twelve year vet
23:11
Speaker 2: who's on the practice squad in Michael Thomas.
23:14
Speaker 3: What's it mean to have Mike still be on this team?
23:19
Speaker 7: Oh, it means the world.
23:21
Speaker 5: You know.
23:22
Speaker 7: Mike is as special as anybody I've ever been around.
23:25
Speaker 7: Mike could could do anything in the world. He could
23:27
Speaker 7: work at Procter and Gamble. He could be in the government,
23:29
Speaker 7: he could be in secret Service. He could do anything.
23:32
Speaker 7: And he's here with us, and he's away from his family,
23:35
Speaker 7: and he's he's putting himself through you know what a
23:37
Speaker 7: lot of other thirty three year olds won't do for
23:39
Speaker 7: the for the good of the team. You know, we
23:41
Speaker 7: talk all the time about a team mentality and what
23:43
Speaker 7: does that look like? That looks like Mike Thomas. So
23:45
Speaker 7: he's a special, special guy. I think the world of him.
23:48
Speaker 7: I do anything in the world for him. You know,
23:50
Speaker 7: He's made me a better person, a better coach, and
23:52
Speaker 7: just really grateful to have him.
23:54
Speaker 3: It's your fifth year working with lou Ana Roumo.
23:56
Speaker 2: He's been called the mad Scientist, He's been called Loudini
24:00
Speaker 2: for his ability to confuse opposing quarterbacks. After working side
24:03
Speaker 2: by side with him for that period of time, what
24:06
Speaker 2: do you admire and respect?
24:07
Speaker 7: What's a blessing to be with him? Number one? You
24:10
Speaker 7: know each week is different. You know he sees the
24:12
Speaker 7: game from a back end perspective, which helps, and there's
24:16
Speaker 7: always a why to what we're doing. So you know,
24:18
Speaker 7: he's got the ability to kind of tear up the
24:20
Speaker 7: old game plan and do something completely different. And his
24:23
Speaker 7: feel on game day, I think is incredibly unique and dynamic.
24:27
Speaker 7: I think that's probably his his secret sauce. You know,
24:30
Speaker 7: that's what separates him is he can kind of see
24:32
Speaker 7: what's hurting us and go away from it if it
24:35
Speaker 7: is hurting us, and get to something that can help us.
24:36
Speaker 7: And and just his ability to trust in the guys.
24:39
Speaker 7: You know, there's been plenty of times where you know, hey,
24:41
Speaker 7: what are you thinking here? What are you thinking there?
24:43
Speaker 7: As a position coach, as a player, he gives you,
24:46
Speaker 7: you know, carte blanche as long as you're gonna do
24:48
Speaker 7: it the right way. And again, it's a phenomenal blessing
24:50
Speaker 7: to work for him and work for Zach and this organization.
24:52
Speaker 7: And I'll take a lot from Lou you know, whether
24:54
Speaker 7: it's how we game plan, to how you call the game,
24:57
Speaker 7: how you set up something maybe in the fourth quarter
24:59
Speaker 7: by doing something second quarter and just staying ahead of
25:01
Speaker 7: your calls that way, so each week, you know, after
25:04
Speaker 7: the game, you kind of make your notes about you know, hey,
25:06
Speaker 7: this is what we did, and kind of store those
25:09
Speaker 7: in you know, binder if that day ever comes up.
25:11
Speaker 3: Really appreciate your time. Best of luck this week.
25:13
Speaker 7: Oh thanks a lot.
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Speaker 2: for this week's Know the Faux segment. When I got
25:39
Speaker 2: to Syracuse University in hopes of becoming a sports broadcaster,
25:43
Speaker 2: there was a student one year ahead of me who
25:45
Speaker 2: sounded like a network broadcaster as a college sophomore.
25:49
Speaker 3: His name was Greg Poppa.
25:52
Speaker 2: His first job out of college was broadcasting Indiana Pacers games,
25:57
Speaker 2: and he eventually moved to San Francisco.
25:59
Speaker 3: We're over the year.
26:00
Speaker 2: He's been the announcer at some point for nearly every
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Speaker 2: team in the Bay Area, including the forty nine Ers,
26:07
Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders, Golden State Warriors, San Francisco Giants, and Oakland A's.
26:12
Speaker 2: He's one of the all time greats and he joined
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Speaker 2: lap in Me this week on the Bengals Game Plan Show.
26:18
Speaker 2: The first topic the status of San Francisco quarterback brock
26:22
Speaker 2: perty So.
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Speaker 9: There were a couple of situations in the game on
26:26
Speaker 9: Monday night where he may have been concussed. There was
26:29
Speaker 9: a couple of quarterback sneaks, as we call him, the
26:32
Speaker 9: Purty plunge, and he got whacked on swimming on top
26:36
Speaker 9: of a pile by the Vikings middle linebacker Jordan Hicks.
26:40
Speaker 1: He also.
26:43
Speaker 9: One played Daniel Hunter, a great edge rusher, beat our
26:47
Speaker 9: right tackle Colton mckiddit so quick to the inside that
26:52
Speaker 9: Brock had a spin out to his left right away
26:54
Speaker 9: and he didn't get thrown down on that play. But
26:57
Speaker 9: when you talk to had trauma experts to and it's
27:01
Speaker 9: sometimes it's just a violent nature of moving your head
27:04
Speaker 9: fast and sometimes just decellrat it. It doesn't have to
27:07
Speaker 9: be a whack to the head or even a whiplash
27:10
Speaker 9: to the ground, so it could be any one of
27:13
Speaker 9: those plays.
27:13
Speaker 1: So I think it's safe to say.
27:15
Speaker 9: He played a portion of the game with it, but
27:18
Speaker 9: he didn't feel it until we'd landed on Monday morning
27:22
Speaker 9: turning to Tuesday night, so we landed like we had
27:26
Speaker 9: to go to SFO.
27:29
Speaker 5: San Francisco Airport at two thirty in the morning.
27:31
Speaker 9: We landed, didn't get back to Santa Clara until pre fifteen,
27:35
Speaker 9: and so a long night.
27:37
Speaker 1: So we'll see.
27:38
Speaker 9: He was out there today when they were doing walkthrough
27:41
Speaker 9: portions of practice, and then when it was more than
27:44
Speaker 9: that he had to leave, and then we'll see where
27:46
Speaker 9: he is tomorrow. But that's why they brought in Sam
27:48
Speaker 9: Donald the first hour of the legal tampering period back
27:53
Speaker 9: in March. They signed Sam Donald with a contract and
27:56
Speaker 9: that was right after Brock had the u Stel search
28:00
Speaker 9: on March tenth, which was that Friday, and they didn't
28:03
Speaker 9: know if he was going to be full blown Tommy
28:06
Speaker 9: John the league of a replacement or just the internal brace.
28:10
Speaker 5: They did do it the internal.
28:11
Speaker 9: Brace, but it was very early in his reap, and
28:14
Speaker 9: Trey Lance was still the Niner then and he he.
28:18
Speaker 1: Was not clear yet.
28:19
Speaker 9: So they got Sam in the air and incentivize this contract.
28:25
Speaker 5: And then your guy Brandon Allen is the.
28:28
Speaker 1: Third quarterback, that he would be the number two and
28:31
Speaker 1: he may get.
28:31
Speaker 5: Some scout team reps tomorrow.
28:33
Speaker 6: So I thought we'd be.
28:35
Speaker 5: Talking about Joe Burrow.
28:37
Speaker 9: And his calf going into this talk tonight, and daw
28:40
Speaker 9: has turned into brock Party's head and whether or not
28:43
Speaker 9: he's going to be cleared to be able to play
28:44
Speaker 9: on Sunday.
28:46
Speaker 8: What about other guys? Deebo Samuel has got that fracture
28:49
Speaker 8: of the shoulder right the hairline fracture, So he's already
28:52
Speaker 8: been ruled out, at least he was. They said he
28:54
Speaker 8: was going to be out for a couple of weeks
28:56
Speaker 8: when in the Monday Night game Trent Williams with the hand.
29:00
Speaker 8: Is this guy, in my mind a beast? I mean,
29:03
Speaker 8: I think he's the best line in football.
29:05
Speaker 3: I really do.
29:06
Speaker 8: I think this guy is incredibly gifted with his size
29:10
Speaker 8: and his movement and his athletic ability. I mean, he's
29:12
Speaker 8: a freakazoid. How about him? Is he going to be
29:14
Speaker 8: able to make the dance.
29:17
Speaker 9: Trench trying to work through it? He did the best
29:20
Speaker 9: left tackle of football. I mean, the forty Niners at
29:22
Speaker 9: Joe Staley here for a number of years, and then
29:25
Speaker 9: they'm in a trade with Washington to get Trent and
29:28
Speaker 9: as you're going from one Hall of Famer to another,
29:30
Speaker 9: and Joe was a terrific player.
29:33
Speaker 5: But we're talking Anthony Munios.
29:34
Speaker 1: You know your guy.
29:35
Speaker 9: This guy, he's just all that. He's a maller, great
29:39
Speaker 9: and pass pro. Go back and watching our Dallas game
29:42
Speaker 9: on Sunday Night Football and what he did to Michael
29:44
Speaker 9: Parsons in that game. And I don't think Michael was right.
29:47
Speaker 9: He had a knee injury going into that game from
29:50
Speaker 9: the week before against New England, but Trenches had just
29:54
Speaker 9: owned him. He got rolled up on in Cleveland Shelby Harris,
29:58
Speaker 9: the veteran defensive line.
30:00
Speaker 5: I've been rolled up on him in a pile. He
30:02
Speaker 5: was out for exactly two snaps.
30:04
Speaker 9: Did not play well in that game. It was his
30:06
Speaker 9: worst game by far. He has a history of ankle injuries.
30:10
Speaker 9: It's not a high ankle, it's a low but I'll
30:13
Speaker 9: try to work through it. An Obviously this game, Trey
30:16
Speaker 9: Hendrickson's terrific and he lines up mainly over the left tackle,
30:20
Speaker 9: so that would be trend if Trent can't go. Jalen
30:23
Speaker 9: Moore played the game against Minnesota and did all right
30:26
Speaker 9: in the game, but we didn't run the ball well
30:29
Speaker 9: in that game, and that's the essence of the forty
30:32
Speaker 9: nine er offense is being able to run the football consistently.
30:35
Speaker 5: And McCaffrey only had three yards of carry.
30:38
Speaker 9: The whole team was three yards of carry against Minnesota
30:41
Speaker 9: and the best night was a scramble.
30:44
Speaker 5: By Brock Perdy.
30:45
Speaker 9: So it's a major, major drop off if Brock can't play.
30:50
Speaker 9: Sam Donald's a really good player. If Trent can't play,
30:54
Speaker 9: Jalen Moore is learning his way in the NFL, and
30:57
Speaker 9: you guys will take advantage of that, So that is
31:00
Speaker 9: the major major X factor going into the game. Obviously
31:04
Speaker 9: brought Pretty's availability, but the grand Schwrett Williams and right
31:07
Speaker 9: now it's his tour in the week.
31:09
Speaker 5: We don't know about either guy.
31:11
Speaker 2: The voice of the forty nine Ers, Great Pop is
31:12
Speaker 2: our guest. I caught the end of the broadcast on
31:15
Speaker 2: Monday night.
31:16
Speaker 3: I was in my car.
31:17
Speaker 2: You described how Kirk Cousins was surgical for the Vikings
31:21
Speaker 2: late in that game. He was thirty five for forty
31:24
Speaker 2: five overall three hundred and seventy eight yards. Did he
31:27
Speaker 2: expose the forty nine ers secondary in any way?
31:31
Speaker 3: Is that a group that's not great.
31:33
Speaker 9: Outside of a Patrick Mahomes performance. And you guys have
31:37
Speaker 9: seen him a lot in big games. In the last
31:39
Speaker 9: seven minutes of the Super Bowl, Super Bowl fifty four,
31:43
Speaker 9: and then he came in last year October twenty third
31:46
Speaker 9: and just devoured the Niners. They almost put up fifty.
31:49
Speaker 9: And then at Josh Allen game in the pandemic year,
31:53
Speaker 9: I can't remember anybody else played quarterback like Kirk Cousins
31:57
Speaker 9: did against the Niner defense with Nick Moosa on the field.
32:00
Speaker 9: It's just they didn't sack him. Dan They did, and
32:03
Speaker 9: they pressured him, but he just he manipulated the whole thing.
32:07
Speaker 9: And I think a lot of it is their head coach,
32:10
Speaker 9: Kevin O'Connell and his knowledge of the forty nine or
32:13
Speaker 9: defense going back to his rings, and then Kirk, you know,
32:17
Speaker 9: knowing Kyle and it was all checked with me at
32:20
Speaker 9: the line.
32:21
Speaker 1: He looked like Peyton Manning and then he just was
32:24
Speaker 1: a mat of what the Niners did.
32:25
Speaker 9: Whether they pressured seven or dropped into a cover two zone,
32:30
Speaker 9: whether you played man or zone. He just outside of
32:34
Speaker 9: the interception he threw early in the game to Tarvarius
32:38
Speaker 9: Ward when Ward was inside of Jordan Addison, he didn't
32:42
Speaker 9: make a mistake. He missed one touchdown throw in the
32:44
Speaker 9: back of the end zone when Addison made a double move,
32:47
Speaker 9: he threw it two flat. Outside of that, he was surgical,
32:51
Speaker 9: which leads to this game. You know, Kirk's a really
32:54
Speaker 9: good player, but your guys better and now that he's
32:58
Speaker 9: looked like he's moving around better, and then you're coach
33:00
Speaker 9: Jack Taylor would have the same intel that Kevin O'Connell
33:04
Speaker 9: would have from the RAM days. So I think it's
33:07
Speaker 9: the same kind of challenge in this game is and
33:10
Speaker 9: you got more wide receiver weapons obviously of their trio.
33:13
Speaker 9: And you know they didn't have justin Jefferson on Monday.
33:15
Speaker 1: You got chamorrow. It's gonna be.
33:18
Speaker 9: The first thing is they got to get more pressure
33:20
Speaker 9: on the quarterback, and I mean hit them, sack them,
33:23
Speaker 9: knock them down.
33:25
Speaker 1: The Niners did not sack Kirk Cousins at all in
33:27
Speaker 1: the game.
33:28
Speaker 9: They pressured him, but he he manipulated it and stepped
33:31
Speaker 9: around it and and then he you know, he found
33:33
Speaker 9: open guys.
33:34
Speaker 1: So TJ.
33:35
Speaker 9: Hockinson was a problem. Jordan Andison was a problem the
33:38
Speaker 9: whole game. But your trio is better, So I think
33:41
Speaker 9: this is a real challenge.
33:42
Speaker 1: I wasn't as worried about the Viking game going in
33:46
Speaker 1: as I was the Bengal game, because, as I say it,
33:48
Speaker 1: we have a short week.
33:50
Speaker 9: We didn't get back to the wee hours on Tuesday morning,
33:53
Speaker 9: and you guys are coming off your bye week, and
33:55
Speaker 9: look at what the Browns were able to do to
33:58
Speaker 9: the Niners off there by a week be random ball
34:01
Speaker 9: on the perimeters. So a huge advantage I think for
34:04
Speaker 9: the Bengals in this game day and is the Niners
34:06
Speaker 9: playing a Monday night game.
34:08
Speaker 5: Traveling home late, short week.
34:10
Speaker 1: Of practice, and you guys haven't you know, an extra
34:13
Speaker 1: week to get ready for the game.
34:15
Speaker 8: What did you think of Christian McCaffrey. I mean two
34:18
Speaker 8: touchdowns obviously, I mean he's the scoring machine. But do
34:22
Speaker 8: you think that that o'bleaque was bothering him? To me,
34:24
Speaker 8: it looked like it was a little bit of an issue.
34:27
Speaker 8: It didn't look like the Christian McCaffrey free flow, free flowing,
34:31
Speaker 8: you know, violent cut kind of guy. Or was I
34:33
Speaker 8: just seeing things now?
34:35
Speaker 9: I thought he looked the same I just watched, and
34:38
Speaker 9: that guy is a tireless worker. He works harder to
34:42
Speaker 9: get ready to practice than he does even and guys
34:44
Speaker 9: doing games. He's like Bosa on offense. He's just a Niacle.
34:48
Speaker 1: Second generation player. We saw him at Stanford, you know,
34:52
Speaker 1: during his college career. Dave and I thought he was
34:55
Speaker 1: going to be a great splat wide receiver in the NFL.
34:58
Speaker 9: The next in Stoke, clear West wid elker Julian Edelman.
35:01
Speaker 9: He could do all that, but he is a terrific
35:04
Speaker 9: running back.
35:05
Speaker 1: He has great field. He said to learn his own
35:07
Speaker 1: scheme because he didn't grow up at it.
35:09
Speaker 9: At Stanford with David Shaw, they power, but he's learned
35:12
Speaker 9: it and he kind of does it differently than the
35:14
Speaker 9: other backs, where it's three four steps at your landmark,
35:18
Speaker 9: get downhill.
35:19
Speaker 1: Christian's like he's surfing and.
35:21
Speaker 5: He kind of feels it.
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Speaker 9: The problem he's having right now is fumbling. He fumbled
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Speaker 9: in the Cowboy game on the goal line.
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Speaker 1: He fumbled in this game. Now Harrison Smith punched it
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Speaker 1: out at the right moment. But whatever it was, Dave
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Speaker 1: and I think it's his teams getting a feel for
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Speaker 1: the Niner running game. He hasn't been as productive.
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Speaker 9: He wasn't as productive in Cleveland, he wasn't as productive
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Speaker 9: in Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure Anna Rumo is going to look.
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Speaker 5: In on our run game.
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Speaker 1: You take the run game away, that's the start you forgot.
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Speaker 1: If I'm going to the game against the Niners, I'm
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Speaker 1: starting on Kyle's run game. Now.
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Speaker 9: It's hard to do how many teams can do it.
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Speaker 9: But if you do that and make us play, you know,
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Speaker 9: without the Breton Buter the foundation of the house.
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Speaker 1: But I think Christian was fine in the game.
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Speaker 9: I just think Brock missed some throws in Cleveland with
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Speaker 9: the wind and the rain just couldn't grip it and
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Speaker 9: rip it. Brock was really good in this game going
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Speaker 9: into the fourth quarter.
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Speaker 1: And then go back and.
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Speaker 9: Watch the two picks that he threw at the end
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Speaker 9: of the game, both to cam bineh the Viking stafety
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Speaker 9: and you'll wonder, you know, did he not have all
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Speaker 9: of his mental faculties?
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Speaker 1: When did the concussion symptoms start to creep in.
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Speaker 9: He didn't feel it until he landed at SFO on
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Speaker 9: Monday night turning the Tuesday morning.
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Speaker 1: But maybe he was slightly off a little bit at
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Speaker 1: the end of that game.
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Speaker 8: Let's hit defense real quick. Nick Bosa reigning Defensive Player
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Speaker 8: of the Year. I mean, he had seventy three quarterback
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Speaker 8: pressures last year, more than anybody in the NFL. He's
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Speaker 8: a freak azoid. We know that Fred Warner might be
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Speaker 8: the best linebacker in football. I mean, but Bosa is
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Speaker 8: an All Pro. Fred Warner is an all Pro Lufanga
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Speaker 8: in the back end. It's safety is an all Pro.
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Speaker 8: Talk about those other guys, so Bosa. Everybody knows about Bosa.
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Speaker 8: Talk about your linebacker and your safety, you know, like
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Speaker 8: the shortstop in the center fielder in a good defensive
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Speaker 8: baseball team, well, I mean that you guys.
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Speaker 9: Knowing from Ohio State, he's dominant, he's a game record,
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Speaker 9: but teams have been chipping him and it's bothering him,
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Speaker 9: frustrated him.
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Speaker 1: At times early in his career. I know Cleveland did
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Speaker 1: it and they bothered him.
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Speaker 9: He just sometimes he quits on rushes because he gets
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Speaker 9: chipped and he gets frustrated. I think he's playing as
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Speaker 9: well as he ever has, but they're not covering behind him,
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Speaker 9: so the sacks aren't there. He's got two and a
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Speaker 9: half on the year. Of course, he held out, he
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Speaker 9: missed all the training camp. He signed the Wednesday or
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Speaker 9: Thursday before the first game at Pittsburgh, so he's not
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Speaker 9: been ass productive. I think a lot of it has
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Speaker 9: been the coverage that they're just not They've sinking up
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Speaker 9: the coverage behind the pass rush with the with the
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Speaker 9: with the pass rush. So a lot of it is
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Speaker 9: they get there so fast that and they got Jamon
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Speaker 9: Hargrave now from Philadelphia and Eric Armstead they just traded
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Speaker 9: for Randy Gregory.
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Speaker 1: But the ball's not fast.
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Speaker 9: Watch our ram game and how quickly Matthew Stafford quick
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Speaker 9: passed this in the first half and it was lightning
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Speaker 9: and he's back.
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Speaker 1: You guys saw him on Monday Night football. What a
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Speaker 1: great thrower of the ball he is. And they didn't
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Speaker 1: have Cooper Cup in that game.
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Speaker 9: They did have Pooka Nakua and to Chadwell and they
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Speaker 9: they got it out fast before Nick and the guys
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Speaker 9: could get there. The gold rush and then the back
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Speaker 9: end they're not covering as well. Tarvarius Ward to a
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Speaker 9: tough game at mooney Man and you know him from
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Speaker 9: Kansas City, just didn't cover as well.
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Speaker 1: And they're they're picking on the nickel guy, Isaiah Oliver.
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Speaker 1: So uh Wufum is not making the amount of splash
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Speaker 1: plays he did last year when he was All Pro.
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Speaker 9: And then the other linebacker, Fred's playing great. The other linebacker,
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Speaker 9: Dray Greenlaw next to Fred, has been in and out
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Speaker 9: of the lineup because he's got.
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Speaker 1: A hamstring injury.
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Speaker 9: He missed the game in Cleveland, and he missed some
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Speaker 9: snaps in Minnesota and he didn't cover. They asked him
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Speaker 9: to man up on Hockinson a lot and that was
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Speaker 9: not a good matchup for him and man He also
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Speaker 9: got peed in his zone in a third and two
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Speaker 9: where they lined up Jordan Addison is the number three
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Speaker 9: inside receiver and when he runs an over route at
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Speaker 9: number three, a week side linebacker's got to pick him
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Speaker 9: up and they went right at him.
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Speaker 1: So to me, it's a lot of the same issues.
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Speaker 9: Because Kevin O'Connell is from Sean McVay plays the Niners
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Speaker 9: multiple times. Oh the one year they ought you know
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Speaker 9: when the Rams won the Super Bowl. We saw him
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Speaker 9: three times that year because we saw him in the
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Speaker 9: championship game before they beat you guys in the in.
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Speaker 1: The Super Bowl at SOFI.
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Speaker 9: So the defense, Dave was lights out down the first
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Speaker 9: five games. The last two games has not been as strong.
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Speaker 9: And I know you look at our We scored seventeen
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Speaker 9: points the last two games offensively after.
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Speaker 1: Scoring thirty thirty thirty, thirty five forty two. So the
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Speaker 1: offense is down, but the defense, they're not getting off
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Speaker 1: the field on third down. They're not playing as well
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Speaker 1: as they played the first five games of the year.
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