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#215 - For Azeroth!: “The Mistress of Lore” · For Azeroth!: A World of Warcraft Podcast

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  Victory for the Forsaken for Lord, are on for the Kirin, Tor
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  That's Faz. Hello and welcome to for
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  Azeroth. My name is Olivia and with me as
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  always, the truest villain himself Manny Manny.
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  How is the World of Warcraft? Been treating you?
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  I am pretty jazzed. Actually.
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  It's been a pretty slow week in terms of news.
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  We haven't had a lot of like, bombshell interviews or anything
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  this week, but we did get to some stuff that of see.
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  We're going to be going. Again to as for like my own
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  personal World of Warcraft experience, good to be back on
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  the red team again. It's good to be horde and and
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  it's bittersweet in a way because you know, on one side.
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  I really enjoyed reading with a lot of the people on the
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  Alliance side. So again, shout out to Hype over
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  in Australia. Shout out to Phalanx of not and
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  those guys that were great and all the teams that I've been
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  waiting with, while I have been on the Alliance side, but
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  control. Again, once you go troll, you
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  never re-roll. And if this is true, unless you
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  jump faction to raid with something, fantastic people
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  right with, you know, with the exception, which you roll troll
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  every role. Oh gosh.
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  Yeah. I I'm in a similar boat where
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  I'm just like Just I need to go. I need to go back.
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  I need to go back home. I need to go back home.
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  Yes. It's getting to a point where it
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  needs to be a thing where I'm back on the horde side and it
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  has everything to do with being a, a high elf again.
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  Yeah, because it gives us don't really count.
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  Yeah, they do, especially when the new customisation, the new
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  customization you can have the blue eyes.
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  You can have like the lack of Of tentacles and void corruption.
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  You can be all high elf. There is, there's nothing
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  stopping you. Yeah, but the crown, I need my
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  tiara. Okay.
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  Oh, I need my tiara. You know, what?
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  Wait wait for dragonflight. Hopefully they throw in some
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  additional customizations. Customizations have been stuff
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  that they've been constantly working on new stuff, will see,
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  crossing my fingers. I really do think that they
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  should constantly be adding in new customizations through.
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  Um, yeah, but you know, And stopping you other than the pay
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  wall of doing a faction transfer.
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  Yeah, speaking speaking of doing or speaking of The Tiara.
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  This is this is my official plea to Blizzard to team to please
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  let us change the color of the Tiara just just let her two
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  colors. There's like a silver and a gold
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  one. Every other piece of jewelry.
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  You can change the color except for the Tiara it stays gold.
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  This is like a whole my knowledge base, my lack of
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  knowledge on Tiaras is showing I'm going to just gonna leave
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  this over to you. But as a draenei, I can change
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  the jewelry on like the tail ring and have that in colors.
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  So why not every piece of jewelry?
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  I understand that because the that particular the the tiara on
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  the on the blood elves is tied to the hairstyle.
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  So it's independent of the rest of the jewelry.
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  So they just need to change it. I mean, I take it out, figure it
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  out, more hairstyles. Yeah, yeah.
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  Or or program, that particular hairstyle to like function
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  alongside the rest of the jewelry kit that you have
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  because it's just it sticks out like a sore thumb and I hate it.
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  Like, I love The Tiara. I think it has to be a separate
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  model that has like a different color, Tiara, because that
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  hairstyle is made to show off The Tiara.
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  And if you were doing something different, like, obviously, they
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  can do different hairstyles, that also have the Tiara
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  involved in. In it, but like they're they're
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  set for that reason. Yeah, I can understand why it's
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  set apart and I guess it would be very easy relative to
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  creating a completely new hairstyle to copy that hairstyle
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  but change the color of the jewelry in it.
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  Yeah. Yeah, absolutely, but you're
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  thinking of faction transferring.
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  Yeah, really? I mean, I obviously in nine
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  point two point five, we should have cross faction rating and
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  that will allow you. To read with the team that
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  you're with because you are currently running with Timber
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  motive and trying to go with them.
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  Yeah. Yes.
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  Yes, it's been. So we didn't, we didn't have
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  the, the Casual read this week. There are too many people out.
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  They almost didn't have their regular Thursday night raid
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  because there were a lot of people out, but then that became
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  the Casual night. Yeah, but I needed to, I needed
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  to sit up because It's, I had a week.
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  Let me tell you, we're wrapping up the semester at work and
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  wooof whole lot of stuff going on.
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  And I was very tired. And I opted to instead, practice
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  some self-care and take care of myself instead of taking care of
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  my in-game avatar. So but, you know, all things,
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  all things said, I think, I think, you know, we haven't
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  heard anything official obviously about when He's
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  coming, but there's a lot of speculation.
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  I saw, mr. Geum posted a tweet this week
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  saying, hey, it might be, you know, the end of the month when
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  we actually get 925, like there's evidence to show that
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  it's possible that like, anywhere between the end of end
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  of may, and like first couple of weeks of June, we could be
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  getting it, you know, that early because it's not tied to the
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  season so they can put it out whenever they went.
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  So, We'll see and as soon as that comes out obviously will
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  have cross-faction rating that will have available and then I
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  will not be restricted by whatever.
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  I can go back to hoard. I can transfer a character back
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  over to bleeding. Hollow throw it in to get your
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  shit together Guild and be done with it.
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  No, okay. Here's the weird thing though.
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  And I think that this is the kind of subject that are weak
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  and wow, sort of brings up because you were talking about
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  this before. We're cross-faction guilt aren't
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  going to be part of nine. Point two point five.
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  So you your thought is I will be you will be part of get your
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  crap together, but you won't trade with, get your head
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  together. Unless you're also reading with
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  Timber motive. And so, are you going to leave
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  Timber Mod have in for rating and raid would get your crap
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  together or you got to know your character in.
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  Get your crit together, but not raid with them and instead raid
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  with this other guilt because that is just weird.
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  Weird. Yeah, because it's like it's
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  something like if you're going to do cross-faction, you kind of
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  have to open up guilds to be able to facilitate cross faction
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  to, because you're going to have great teams that are people in
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  disparate factions that can't, you know be in the same Guild
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  together and guilds just offer that because it's like we were
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  talking about it in our Discord in the fastest cord this week.
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  Like as to what What would be appropriate for cross-faction
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  guilds? If it's if it's something that
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  should even consider, if it's something that, you know, they
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  should look at and I'm a, I'm in The Stance of, absolutely.
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  They should open up guilds to cross faction because it's like,
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  yes, it's the, the Guild Bank and it's the guild perks.
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  Like you get, you get gold for doing activities, with your
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  guild know, that kind of stuff, like all that's there, but it's
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  also offering things like invites like calendar.
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  Invites like it. There's tools with guilds that
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  that allow you to facilitate Guild invites easier for for Red
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  Knights. There's, and that's really like
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  the only thing. No, no, no, okay, that's not
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  fully the conversation because there's a difference between a
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  guild being cross faction and a guild being cross server.
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  Yeah. So even if you were to On horde
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  side with get your grid together on bleeding Hollow and is a
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  different faction and different server, then Timber Mod Tavern.
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  And you're part of a guild, that is not associated in any way,
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  shape, or form, but rating with another guild.
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  So the even if there was like some cross faction cross-server
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  Guild, you've got your feet in both camps, right?
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  Yeah. So like that's, that's, that's
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  I'm struggling to wrap my head around it.
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  So it would be a lot cleaner. If you were part of a horde
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  version of Timber more Tavern on that server.
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  And so you would be your blood elf or high elf.
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  Yeah, and you would raid with them.
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  And so the guild would be cross faction on the same server.
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  That's layer one, right? Yeah, and that's something that
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  we were considering with Poindexter Furious was like,
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  okay once this opens up. Will create a horde side.
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  Guild we will shut down the Guild chat and just have it
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  through the community line or use a green wall or whatever to
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  make sure that the Guild Chat is seamless.
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  So nobody is siloed out. There's not a horde side in the
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  line side. Everybody.
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  Is there the Discord of course facilitates that and a lot of
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  these Community stuff. Also allow you to do Mass
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  invites or calendar invites and that sort of stuff so that
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  functionality is there. What would be missing?
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  But is broken, of course, is as you said Guild perks.
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  Guild achievements would be separated between the alliance
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  and horde suicide. It wasn't a matter of if people
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  wanted that or not because even I want that and I'm one of the
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  more staunch separation of of different things because I feel
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  like there's a lot of issues and even soft tissues, like
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  community that get broken down when you start, merging
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  different faction auction house. Houses and the pool from
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  different servers than that, you lose a lot of stuff that we
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  talked about before like server identity, like fact, my
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  identity. And that's where stuff and it's
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  all going to become a lot more blurry in time.
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  Yeah, I guess the stance that I met is that I want to tear down
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  any barrier between players playing with each other, like
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  any anything that keeps me. With a character on say, on moon
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  guard, if I have a character on moon guard and you've got a
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  character on bleeding Hollow, there should be zero barrier
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  between us enjoying the game together like server shouldn't
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  matter faction. Shouldn't matter if I'm if I'm
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  playing the game and I have another friend playing the game.
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  We should be able to play the game together with full full
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  range of everything that the game.
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  Has to offer like it. Yes, technically right now we
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  can do that. Well, I mean come 9.25 will be
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  able to do that because I still haven't fixed and transferred
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  over yet. But you want all the perks of a
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  guild to be able to go across servers and across factions.
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  Yes. Okay, and I'm fine with across
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  factions. I might sticking point is
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  servers and I think That's the conversation.
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  We were having in the Discord. Where was a matter of like?
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  The entire reason that when I did my faction transfer, or if I
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  were to do a server transfer, they limit the amount of gold I
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  can take from one place to another is so that people can't
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  abscond with huge amounts of gold.
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  Your Guild Master, can't get compromised, empty out the guild
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  Vault, get transferred over to somewhere and then dump it over
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  to another character through some weird Auction House, scheme
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  or whatever. Like they just they have a lot
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  of controls and balances on where that kind of golden stuff
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  goes through, especially with tokens being a thing as well.
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  It would be so easy for somebody to compromise an account, by up
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  a bunch of Battlenet balance and then say, hey, I'll sell you a
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  month of time for a discounted price you get it for like forty
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  percent off. Oh, wow.
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  Okay, sure and they didn't pay anything for it.
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  It's just pure profit for them. They compromised a bunch of an
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  accounts. And so you have to limit how
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  quickly gold can move around the system and how quickly people
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  can do stuff. That's why you need to be
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  friends with somebody for seven days before you can even give
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  them something because they because that's not about like
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  how quickly the system can do. It.
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  The system can process your credit card in seconds.
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  So obviously they can make Transit transactions.
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  Like this quickly. They do this because it's a
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  security protocol. It's like if we slow this down,
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  we can catch it before it gets bad.
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  And when you do a transfer your limiting, the amount of gold
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  that goes through guilds, cross-server destroy that
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  immediately. Somebody can dump a bunch of
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  gold into Guild from one server. Another person or multiple
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  people can siphon that gold out from all a bunch of different
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  servers and that's how the gold gets spread out everywhere.
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  That's why I don't think if you were to put guilds cross server,
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  you would have to say, Verily limit a lot of the functionality
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  of that and then it wouldn't be what you're looking for.
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  Yeah. Yeah, there is like there are
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  obvious concessions. Like I think in order, and this
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  is something that was said in the conversation in the server
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  was that you would have to, in order to facilitate it, you
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  would have to make the auction house Global.
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  Like you're maybe not Global but like region.
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  Not just that even making the the Auction house.
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  Let's say, Global. Let's say they break down every
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  barrier including Regional barriers, which is the last big
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  barrier, even that just shifts the problem from a guild Bank to
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  the auction house itself, and it's still a matter of, okay,
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  you put a, you put something up on the auction house and you
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  don't get your money for seven days.
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  So blizzard can make sure that you haven't been hacked, that's
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  where the problem would start lying or if they have that
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  restriction on the auction house, but not on the guild,
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  then you need Be in a guild for x amount of days and you need to
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  have an authenticator to take any gold out of that guilt.
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  These are these are serious things that they would have to
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  lock down and destroy the convenience factor of a guild
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  because the security would no longer be there.
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  Yeah, you've always, we've heard those stories of of Guild
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  leaders draining the Guild Bank, pulling everything out, selling
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  on the auction house and just absconding disappearing.
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  But that night That still happens regardless of whether or
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  not we have. Yeah, but now you're making it
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  easier. Why are you making it easier and
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  more profitable and harder to control?
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  Yeah. And that's just the security
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  issues. I think the harder issues would
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  be that like eight, now that you can raid anywhere with anybody
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  and stuff. What's to stop?
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  The the high-end gills from scooping up everybody.
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  The people who were oh I'm in na but now you can raid with you
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  can raid with like the top team in in the world.
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  So we're going to Pirate out everybody from Any team that's
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  below the top five. Because why wouldn't they?
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  Because now there's no go. Cos it's not like those those
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  guys are really concerned about it.
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  Yeah, right, like obviously those top orgs would it would do
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  that and they have done that we've seen people jump from
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  region to region and be like, oh, that's fine.
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  We'll do. We'll do that, even though
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  they're losing their entire character and their account, to
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  jump to the next region, because you have to start that we've
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  already seen that it just becomes.
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  Easier and it limits those limitations allow greater things
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  in other ways. Yeah, everything you're saying
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  is making sense and it's making me mad because I just want to
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  play with my friends. You can play all your friends.
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  But like going back to your example on this now.
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  I'm going to ask you to explain it.
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  Why are you joining planning to join?
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  Get your crit together, but made with another team.
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  Yeah, I know. But like and but like why like I
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  And that's like, hey, I'm horde side.
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  And I love these guys, with get your critic Avatar.
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  I'd love to be part of that Community, but I want to read
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  with these guys, right? And it's like why and I know the
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  thing is like I would love to be a high elf in with the exact
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  customizations. I want.
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  And the and the way that I imagined, my character be
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  ideally Andrade with these guys. And if I think that if all
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  limitations were gone, You would be part of Timber more Tavern as
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  a high elf. Would that be correct?
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  Yeah, and so everything else is just you trying to make the best
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  of the restrictions in the current system or the system
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  that will be in nine point two point five.
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  Yeah. Yeah, that's what it has a lot
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  to do with because I like I still want that sense of
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  community. Like, getting like jumping into
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  game, having having green text. It's Philip my Phillip my chat
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  log and being able to talk with people.
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  They're like if they I guess a simpler solution would be for
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  them to just kind of not put so much of a focus on guilds and
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  put more of a focus on communities and like having
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  having that be kind of more of the the centerpiece, but you
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  can't really I think I think you've got a weird Legacy issue
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  going because oh for sure. Kevin being a focus for a long
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  time. In fact after cataclysm and they
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  tore out a bunch of the guild perks.
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  There's the what really will hold you to a guilt is the
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  community and a lot of that Community is an in-game.
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  It's on the discourse and such right and that's a conversation
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  again. We had in the Discord guys.
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  Now would be a perfect time for me to say join us in the for.
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  Drop this court where we literally have these
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  conversations that are informing the show, which you can do by
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  going to bit.ly slash fastest. Court, regardless of that plug.
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  I think that those communities are there.
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  They're in the Discord or through different means.
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  Yes, when you jump into game, it would be nice to have that
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  title. But that title doesn't mean
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  anything without everything. Propping it up all the community
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  and stuff, propping it up. I'm currently Guiltless, I am.
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  Not part of a guild. I am trying out for a guild on a
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  different server. I haven't made the server
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  transfer yet because I want to secure the spot.
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  So I'm still over on moon, guard on The Horde side outside of
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  Guild. You know, what that made me do.
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  I'm opening up my friends list and talking with people all the
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  time. I'm not ignoring Guild chat.
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  I'm horrible with Guild chat, guys.
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  I'm like this disaster. People will say something to me
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  and then like six hours later, like log back in and be like,
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  There was a conversation going on, it's bad, but I'll open up
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  my friends list and I'll be talking with people and I'll
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  jump into the discords and we'll be having jokes about being a
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  lemming in like, oh shoot. I dropped in the hole for Jailer
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  because the good because the raid lead said jump and I didn't
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  even wait long enough to ask how high.
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  It's just those are just jokes. Those are just jokes and there
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  that's through. New voice communication that is
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  through the chat on on discords. That isn't because I have the
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  name. So I don't see the point in
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  creating so many security risk for something that the value
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  isn't actually in what you're asking for.
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  Yeah. I'm curious.
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  I'm curious to see like, if we're just going to see guilds
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  become just kind of like a cosmetic.
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  Like personalized title maker because like you see that all
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  the time, on our P servers, like people make guilds to have a
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  personalized title. That isn't something that you
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  can get, you know, through through the regular title system
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  in game like you I wish I had a an example but it's like just
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  literally log on to any our piece over and you'll see it
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  like a thousand guilds that are just they're all like level one
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  guilds. That's just one person in it and
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  they just have it. Because they wanted a specific
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  title, a personalized title for them.
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  So I'm curious if we're going to see more of that once 9.25 comes
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  out. Honestly.
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  It's all Guild titles are typically, vanity projects.
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  All of the guild lead Poindexter Furious named after the, the
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  ill-fated podcast that you boots made.
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  Right. And we were talking on and on
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  and on about it and it's like, just just name it this and let's
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  move on because the name means nothing to me, right?
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  Right. It's going to be your baby.
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  Get your crit together is because that's what our raid
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  team was called when we were part of one of the small
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  subdivision guilds in a ie. And then when we're moving to
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  make our own Guild on a different server.
• 23:38
  We're like, we've always been get your crap together.
• 23:41
  So that is our name and it was a guild that was purely based
• 23:46
  around the ray team and carried through way back in.
• 23:51
  The Lich King I was part of a guild called the Knights of
• 23:54
  good. Probably one of a million guilds
• 23:56
  called that because there was a very popular internet show
• 24:01
  called The Guild and the name of that guilt was the Knights of
• 24:05
  good. And so a bunch of people aped
• 24:07
  that. Absolutely.
• 24:08
  And likewise one of my first skills that I was a part of, and
• 24:12
  in the World of Warcraft was a guild one of many to many, in
• 24:18
  fact, called invalid, Target. Yeah, which is yeah referential
• 24:26
  to the game that you're playing and it was super hyper meta and
• 24:30
  I kind of like, looking back on it.
• 24:32
  I'm just like, okay. How about this one of the girls
• 24:38
  that I ran with? That was really trying to push
• 24:40
  itself was called a descent and the only reason was called
• 24:44
  descent was because the guild leader who had splintered off
• 24:47
  from a guild where she was very upset with them and their Guild
• 24:50
  was called, Ended. So how do you counter ascended,
• 24:54
  descent? They're going up, we go down,
• 24:56
  right? That's just it's always going to
• 24:58
  be based on your guild lead and where they're at and like what's
• 25:04
  resonating with them. So sure if you want to make it
• 25:07
  some special title. So be it.
• 25:08
  But like they could dump so much into guilds to make them amazing
• 25:14
  and maybe they could have that line up with cross-faction
• 25:19
  guilds, but I don't think cross-server.
• 25:21
  It is a smart idea right now. Yeah, it's something like it's a
• 25:27
  like wait on the line if they if they ever figure out a way to
• 25:30
  balance the security and like all of the other factors that go
• 25:33
  into it. I think I think that that's just
• 25:37
  another barrier or like just figure out in an entirely
• 25:40
  different system, like through Battlenet, like have have
• 25:44
  Battlenet guilds or something like that to, to make it and,
• 25:49
  like, not tie it in with, like, Guild Banks and and have you
• 25:53
  know, different systems that are built that cause like we're
• 25:56
  looking at this problem through the lens of the way guilds
• 25:59
  currently are and the way that they currently exist.
• 26:01
  Yeah, we're trying to expand guilt to a higher level, but
• 26:03
  maybe there's something at a high level.
• 26:04
  That's fits everything below it. Yeah, which is, you know,
• 26:08
  something we could look forward to but that's not all that we're
• 26:12
  here to talk about today honestly, but like that's that's
• 26:17
  what I love to do with our weeks.
• 26:18
  And wow. We just we talk About it and it
• 26:22
  talked and informs a conversation about a larger
• 26:25
  issue that may not be specifically in the headlines,
• 26:28
  but it's something that the community is talking about.
• 26:30
  So I love having those conversations.
• 26:32
  So thank you for having that with me live.
• 26:35
  Absolutely, but we should move on but we do have some news
• 26:39
  around 9.25. Coming out.
• 26:41
  We seen a couple couple of new things.
• 26:44
  First is season for rewards. So scars.
• 26:48
  Are it came out to talk? Talk about listening to players
• 26:52
  desires for increased bad luck protection, making sure in-game
• 26:56
  rewards feel like they're matching players efforts.
• 26:59
  I want to start out with this because that it's a huge huge
• 27:04
  thing. Huge Topic in, in the World of
• 27:07
  Warcraft. Like we have a whole lot of
• 27:10
  restrictions on Loot and all of these.
• 27:13
  These inner woven systems that we've had over the last couple
• 27:16
  of expansions, like it's very, very frustrating.
• 27:21
  Rating to get loot. That you don't need.
• 27:24
  We get we after week, especially when we, you know, have a system
• 27:28
  that is supposed to kind of supposedly counterbalance that,
• 27:34
  but we haven't really seen much in the way of like, quote,
• 27:39
  unquote, bad luck protection, like the I think probably the
• 27:41
  closest that wow ever got to having like a true bad luck,
• 27:45
  protection system was if you could prove swings.
• 27:49
  Oh Let me tell you why I disagree with you.
• 27:53
  Wholeheartedly one coins was I'm going to spend, let's say, 500
• 27:58
  goal to get 250 when this thing fails nine times out of ten.
• 28:02
  That's what it was. The the 10th time was.
• 28:07
  Hey, I got loot, but that tenth time would break down into.
• 28:11
  It was the piece I wanted or was a piece that I now vendor for 50
• 28:14
  gold and I really wasted my time.
• 28:17
  So coins. I'm not saying it was amazing
• 28:20
  thing. I'm not saying it was a good
• 28:22
  system. I'm saying it was probably the
• 28:24
  closest because enter it is, it is like, this is the closest
• 28:29
  we've ever gone into proper bad luck protection.
• 28:31
  Because even if you don't get anything out of your Vault, you
• 28:36
  can get the ability to modify gear to have a gem socket on it.
• 28:41
  You can get various things that can support your character this
• 28:46
  season and in previous Seasons before.
• 28:49
  And I think that Rather it is a relatively small in the
• 28:54
  guaranteed section. But also having a possibility of
• 28:58
  nine, different roles of getting something has been fantastic and
• 29:04
  because people, when they're reaching the end of the season,
• 29:07
  start hitting the it's very hard to get that exact piece that I
• 29:11
  want. Or sometimes they see this, like
• 29:13
  the weird bad luck. The great vault is keeps on
• 29:16
  getting this bad rep and it's so much better than we've had
• 29:20
  before. Yeah, it just I think we're a
• 29:23
  lot of it's coming from is like we like we like the tactile like
• 29:27
  we are getting a piece of loot. That is like visually we see it
• 29:31
  in the vault. It looks like an upgrade.
• 29:33
  We can select it and we can slap it on our character.
• 29:36
  And while you're correct in that there are other things that we
• 29:41
  can then get through the great Vault.
• 29:43
  It's not like getting a gym socket, doesn't have the same
• 29:48
  doesn't have the same Jewish to it, that getting Like a tangible
• 29:52
  like actual real piece does because that that is an upgrade
• 29:57
  to your character overall, but it's not it's not the the
• 30:01
  crunchy upgrade of getting a 5 item level piece upgrade with
• 30:07
  the exact stats that you're looking for.
• 30:09
  Yeah, but like look at those odds, I want the piece that I'm
• 30:14
  looking for and I want it with the exact stats that I'm looking
• 30:17
  for, right? That that's such a tall.
• 30:21
  Lass from anything, like what's the, what's the chance that a
• 30:24
  boss is going to drop that and you're going to win it all of
• 30:27
  the, like 20 people that you're reading with or 10 people that
• 30:30
  your rating with. It's, it's not high.
• 30:33
  It's not high at all. But at least you see somebody
• 30:36
  part of possibly getting that loot except now that we have
• 30:39
  personal loot. It might go to a guy who's like,
• 30:41
  oh, this isn't the best stats and this would be the best ass
• 30:45
  for you, but it's five item levels higher than anything I've
• 30:48
  ever equipped. So you Just Dance this in front
• 30:52
  of you and then disenchant it like that.
• 30:55
  That sucks 10 times worse than anything out of the Vault.
• 30:58
  Yeah, and I think that's, that's where a lot of the the bad
• 31:04
  sentiment around. It is coming from.
• 31:06
  Is that scenario, specifically, the piece drops and raid or at
• 31:12
  the end of dungeon and you're just like, hey that is a piece
• 31:15
  that I'm definitely looking for. That would help my character
• 31:17
  tremendously and they're like, oh it's three items.
• 31:21
  It'll Tire. Sorry can't trade it, like that
• 31:23
  feels so bad. But you know, that's, that's
• 31:29
  something that apparently they're looking at.
• 31:30
  They're they're looking at at ways to and this goes back to
• 31:36
  some of the interviews that they were having around dragonflight
• 31:40
  talking about talking about, you know, Master looter about the
• 31:44
  possibility of it. Coming out group.
• 31:47
  Loot. In fact, they said group loot.
• 31:48
  Not massively. We have to be very careful.
• 31:51
  We're going to get people's hopes up by saying Master
• 31:52
  leader. And then they're going to come,
• 31:54
  not even at us. They're probably gonna come at
• 31:56
  like whoever we attribute it to and be a new sir said.
• 31:59
  And it's like no no. No, they said group loot.
• 32:02
  We misreported his master leader.
• 32:04
  Please don't come at the 14, right?
• 32:07
  But regardless looking at at, you know, expanding the, the
• 32:13
  loot options, the loot distribution options that are
• 32:15
  available to make it a little bit easier to avoid issues like
• 32:20
  that. Because like, they even said, I
• 32:23
  think in think Ian said this in the, the dragonflight like,
• 32:30
  announcement like that that day in the panel that he was on.
• 32:36
  I think he said something to the effect of Wee.
• 32:45
  We tried to put all these hoops for people to jump through in
• 32:51
  order to disincentivize the hoop jumping that these like high-end
• 32:57
  guilds were going through in order to maximize their loot
• 33:01
  potential week to week during progression.
• 33:04
  And it just all it did was make more Hoops for people to jump
• 33:08
  through and we don't want to do that anymore.
• 33:14
  You To make The Madness of the community.
• 33:16
  He's actually went Dumber, right?
• 33:21
  So, like with that with like the the few things that they've said
• 33:25
  around that, like I have hopes that they're going to do
• 33:27
  something about it to like they're they're, you know,
• 33:31
  desperately, trying, or maybe not even desperately but they're
• 33:34
  definitely trying to to have Something for us in drag inflate
• 33:40
  that is going to be like a tangible Improvement in how raid
• 33:47
  teams and Mythic plus teams are handling their loot to decrease
• 33:52
  the amount of times that you're just like this sucks so bad.
• 33:56
  But anyway, moving on, I do want to I do want to say one thing to
• 34:01
  that point. This is one part of it and it's
• 34:06
  not that they're necessarily going to Decrease the amount of
• 34:09
  times that you see an item. That isn't exactly what you
• 34:12
  wanted, isn't the best in slot, but it is a Mount it's about
• 34:17
  like how long you go before you eventually you see that piece or
• 34:23
  good piece in there? And that's where they are
• 34:28
  talking about. The season, for rewards.
• 34:29
  We were talking about that a couple of weeks ago about those
• 34:32
  coins, the the denier that you can get very key things like
• 34:39
  weapons, like, trinkets that are very key to a lot of builds.
• 34:44
  When they, when they do this. Like, yes, you may not be able
• 34:47
  to get the exact wrists lot that you wanted it, but who cares
• 34:51
  about the wrist? Eventually, you'll get a nice
• 34:53
  item level wrist. We'll get some of the stats, you
• 34:57
  want. Yes, you can go fishing and
• 34:59
  hopefully get the best in slot wrist.
• 35:01
  But is that really going to keep you up at night that you've got
• 35:03
  a high item level risk, but it doesn't have the all the haste
• 35:06
  that you wanted know what's really going to matter is that I
• 35:10
  don't have weapon and weapons are huge for me.
• 35:12
  I don't have this trinket and I've got this really weird to
• 35:15
  drink it because that's all I could get.
• 35:17
  And so, yes, you'll be able to buy in a deterministic fashion
• 35:22
  the trinkets, but also come Like because this is a test bed for
• 35:27
  stuff. We're going to see later.
• 35:29
  Crafting is going to be there and crafting can fill in a lot
• 35:31
  of those slots. Including the very elusive
• 35:34
  wrists lot that we keep complaining about.
• 35:37
  So you're going to have that you're going to be able to be
• 35:43
  able to fill in various things through various system and
• 35:47
  they're going to work harmoniously rather than
• 35:51
  competing with each other. And and I think that's a very
• 35:54
  important thing when you're looking FD season for rewards
• 35:57
  and deterministic rewards how they're going to go.
• 36:00
  But yeah, that's my last point that I want to put on this.
• 36:03
  Yeah, so you can point to good point and I hope that they have
• 36:07
  lots of takeaways from it to to, you know, move that forward into
• 36:13
  dragonflight. So I think it's an interesting
• 36:16
  system for sure, but we'll see. We'll see.
• 36:19
  But back to 925. Those are 9:00 to 5:00.
• 36:23
  Yeah, but yes, others. We're talking 25.
• 36:26
  Yeah, we're talking about going and dragonfly, but bringing it
• 36:29
  back to 925. We have the new ethics for
• 36:34
  season 4 is called shrouded. Have you seen my I've not seen
• 36:42
  it in action of read about it, but I haven't seen it in action.
• 36:45
  It's great it, I mean sorry, okay.
• 36:48
  It's pretty cool in that. It is an Ethics that isn't
• 36:54
  really going to slow you down or be very negative because like I
• 36:59
  always worry when we see a new a fix that, it's going to be
• 37:02
  something like infested or beguiling where it's going to be
• 37:07
  like, uh, This thing is just meant to be a pain.
• 37:11
  That's not what this is. I would say that.
• 37:13
  The worst thing about this ethics is that it's on the
• 37:17
  tameside, but how it works is that at the beginning of the
• 37:21
  Keystone, there will be this broker and you can talk to the
• 37:24
  broker and you'll be like, hey, what do you want for your
• 37:27
  Bounty? And you can select one of the
• 37:31
  four secondary stats so you can be like I want hey, so I want
• 37:35
  versatility. I want Mastery or I Want to get
• 37:39
  Critical Strike and instantly, you'll get a buff 42 percent of
• 37:45
  the static except for Mastery. Because Mastery is always a
• 37:48
  weird one. You'll get 69 Mastery rating
• 37:51
  noise, then from there you start the dungeon and you run through
• 37:57
  and every time you come across a mob that is got this chatter, we
• 38:04
  cloak around it. You'll see a little debuff on
• 38:06
  it. That's disguised.
• 38:08
  Which clearly isn't disguise that well, congratulations.
• 38:10
  You've come across one of the Nazi regime infiltrators.
• 38:14
  And when you engage in combat, it will transform into one of
• 38:18
  the dreadlords when you get it down to, like, basically dead 1%
• 38:21
  Health. It will be captured by the
• 38:24
  Brokers when it's captured. It does not count towards your
• 38:29
  percentage. So you will need to pull maybe a
• 38:32
  little bit more, but the trade-off is that you will get
• 38:36
  to Buffs when you You basically killed the dreadlord one.
• 38:41
  You'll get another stack of that Bounty buff 42 percent of a stat
• 38:46
  or 69 Mastery. You will also get a bounty claim
• 38:51
  reward where you will over the course of the next five seconds
• 38:56
  regenerate 30% of your health and Mana, which means that you
• 39:01
  know, you're about to kill off one of these these nasty Azeem,
• 39:05
  then your healer can go a little bit nuts on.
• 39:08
  Manny usage because they know they're going to get 30% back.
• 39:10
  Once you claim that Bounty, and you're going to heal up 30% in
• 39:15
  general of your health over 5 seconds, then you'll get more
• 39:20
  stats and you'll be able to stack up Stacks.
• 39:22
  So, through the course of a dungeon, you will probably be
• 39:24
  able to get around 10 Stacks or so, which means you're going to
• 39:29
  be able to get at you. I think that you were saying
• 39:32
  that it could be 10 or higher but even at 10 Stacks, I mean
• 39:36
  you're going to be getting like 20% Sent additional crit or
• 39:39
  haste or something like that. That's going to be solid.
• 39:43
  One of the things that that's good about.
• 39:45
  This is that it's almost a Snowball Effect.
• 39:49
  Because as you kill more and you keep getting more stacking
• 39:51
  stats, that means you're just gonna like, go further and
• 39:54
  further into the dungeon. So, I think, what part of the
• 39:59
  strategy of this is going to be. How can we kill the most early
• 40:03
  on to get that ball rolling fast, and that's going to be
• 40:06
  where people are going to be routing.
• 40:08
  Like mad. And like maybe I want to pull
• 40:10
  this side pack because it's got like one or two of the
• 40:13
  infiltrators in there to really give us the power which means
• 40:17
  your route might not be as direct as just getting through
• 40:20
  the dungeon as quickly and I think that's going to be a good
• 40:23
  trade-off. So while it might seem on the
• 40:26
  surface pretty straightforward and flat, I think that the
• 40:30
  strategy behind maximizing how quickly you collects tax is
• 40:36
  going to be key to this. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like a
• 40:42
  very interesting effects. I don't know.
• 40:48
  I don't know how much you guys. I'm going to have out of it
• 40:51
  depends. It depends on how like, into
• 40:53
  season for that, I get. But, but yeah, I'm I'm happy
• 40:59
  with it. It sounds a lot more interesting
• 41:01
  than the current ethics, which kind of bores me to tears.
• 41:04
  Really? Yeah, I like that.
• 41:08
  Sure. It a fix because it's got a
• 41:09
  similar to this where the reinvigoration where you get
• 41:12
  like health and Mana back allows like your your healer to go a
• 41:17
  little nuts on stuff. It allows you to get be more
• 41:19
  aggressive with pools when you're like grabbing her.
• 41:22
  And it wasn't something that people fully had figured out
• 41:25
  like, the cooldown reset for is also fantastic.
• 41:29
  I love when I'm like, into into a dungeon or goes down.
• 41:34
  We have the cooled the cooldown. I just like, Like, get a get,
• 41:39
  some haste. And I'm just able to like chain
• 41:41
  so many moves together that like, you would normally be
• 41:44
  waiting. I want to say hours, but
• 41:46
  obviously not ours. What feels like hours after
• 41:49
  you've gone through like that. Perfect line up of cooldowns.
• 41:52
  Yeah, normally, yeah, it doesn't it never really liked lined up
• 41:57
  with with my cooldowns as a Demon Hunter like it would it
• 42:02
  would like for example, I could never within within.
• 42:08
  Her window, I could never get like to know.
• 42:13
  I could get two i-beams, but it couldn't get like a third.
• 42:16
  So it would it would always kind of just like It was it was just
• 42:21
  weird, but could you laser down the Earth?
• 42:26
  And then when it gives you the buff it like, re it like, brings
• 42:30
  your eye beam back up. So you just go right back into
• 42:32
  I-beam and then get up the extra two i-beams.
• 42:34
  Well, it would depend, it would depend on which legendary I was
• 42:37
  using. Like, if I was using the one
• 42:39
  that summons another Demon Hunter to, to do to do the beam
• 42:45
  with me, or if I was using the one that that had a chance.
• 42:50
  Of resetting the cool down, like, if I had the reset, then
• 42:54
  it was just wasted like, or I never wanted her with that
• 42:57
  legendary, just because it's this just constantly wasting
• 43:03
  resets if. If I'm like getting cooldown
• 43:06
  reduction, because it would either proc one or the other,
• 43:11
  like I couldn't, I couldn't make use of both, but if I was using
• 43:15
  the one that's the, the double beam then, yeah.
• 43:18
  Absolutely. I Enter all the time to didn't
• 43:22
  do that because urges The Meta baby murderers, The Meta, you
• 43:26
  just got to take that in. And then I just fired over
• 43:29
  everything pop my brother King because I'm sure I'll like in
• 43:32
  baby. I'm troll again all members
• 43:35
  working for the extra haste and then find overs.
• 43:37
  Every other cool down or like single Target.
• 43:40
  Just lava lashing upside their face back and forth.
• 43:46
  I love this season. We've had two great.
• 43:50
  Eight weeks of affixes to which is really improved my enjoyment
• 43:57
  of this season where I'm not dealing with like, you know, go
• 44:00
  back, two weeks and it was spiteful and I was like, hey you
• 44:02
  spiteful, I hate you so much. I spite spiteful.
• 44:06
  Anyways, this affix looks like maybe near the end with like an
• 44:12
  extra 20% Hast, right? I'm going to be just going nuts
• 44:16
  all the time because now I'll stack that throw on berserk.
• 44:20
  Going for an extra little bit, maybe throw a lust on top of
• 44:23
  that, like, my gcd will be the only thing holding me back.
• 44:28
  Yeah. Well, all right.
• 44:33
  Sorry, I do want to say there is one additional wrinkle or
• 44:40
  complication in this affix among all of the different
• 44:44
  infiltrators. There is going to be a mini boss
• 44:48
  and that mini boss. Is going to have more health and
• 44:52
  have more ability some of these abilities.
• 44:53
  Look pretty crazy. If you look at the drat nose
• 44:56
  video, which we have linked in the chat.
• 44:59
  It has this entire blood Shield, Shadow Nova and a drain as well
• 45:04
  as a hypnotic bat, which means that you're going to have to
• 45:08
  deal with these mechanics that you haven't seen before.
• 45:11
  We're not sure at this time, if the boss is going to be the same
• 45:17
  every week and it's just the same boss all over.
• 45:20
  Or if it shifts from week to week, much like we had rotations
• 45:23
  and other affixes, but the boss seems pretty strong.
• 45:29
  Obviously, you get root increased reward.
• 45:30
  So instead of just getting one stack, you'll get three stacks
• 45:34
  right away. And the reinvigoration is going
• 45:37
  to restore. One hundred percent of your
• 45:39
  maximum, mana and health over the next five seconds.
• 45:43
  So you can really go nuts on this on this boss in terms of
• 45:47
  Mana usage and everything like I expect Arcane Mages.
• 45:50
  Just go to the wall against this boss knowing that they're going
• 45:54
  to get their Mana back. But basically what I've seen
• 45:57
  from what greatness is saying is that it is the difficulty of the
• 46:01
  boss seems to the level that you may actually just want to avoid
• 46:05
  it. And if that's true, and it does
• 46:08
  shift from position to position from week to week, knowing where
• 46:12
  that is at. The beginning of the week, is
• 46:15
  going to be a very bit of valuable info being like, okay,
• 46:19
  don't Pull this one because that's the mini-boss and that's
• 46:23
  the one you want to avoid. I'm sure people will eventually
• 46:27
  get a strong enough or maybe it's just we'll going to go and
• 46:30
  hit that one last when we have all the power from our other
• 46:33
  Buffs to make it easier to kill. So again, there's going to be a
• 46:36
  lot of routing strategy in this and I think this is going to be
• 46:40
  somewhat similar to season one of the shadowlands where we were
• 46:46
  trying to get those prideful Buffs except that it's To be
• 46:50
  less punishing if we get a reset because you don't lose your
• 46:53
  Stacks when you die. Mmm.
• 46:55
  Yeah, which is going to be good. Yeah.
• 46:58
  We have some more cool little tidbits that were dredged up in
• 47:05
  the nine point. Two point five news that came
• 47:07
  out in the last week. We saw that they are going to be
• 47:11
  adding portals to the upper ring of or bows to allow players to
• 47:14
  get to the to the Legacy dungeons in season four, so
• 47:18
  there will be a portal to Gorgon.
• 47:20
  And for iron dachshund group will Depot, there will be a
• 47:23
  portal to cares and another one to BEC, agon to facilitate
• 47:26
  getting to those dungeons as they come up with, with your
• 47:30
  keys. So, that'll be good.
• 47:33
  I definitely definitely kind of like the idea of having like,
• 47:39
  short-term portals for specific stuff like this because if they
• 47:43
  weren't going to do this then almost no one would want to go
• 47:47
  out to these zones to do especially People that just came
• 47:51
  in within the last, like, two or three expansions.
• 47:53
  Like, they're not gonna know how to get the gorgrond.
• 47:56
  They're like, they're probably gonna have characters that never
• 47:58
  went there unless they just so happened.
• 48:00
  To pick the time walking for Warlords of Draenor, like, yeah,
• 48:05
  or it's going to be one of those things where it's like, you have
• 48:08
  your Garrison hurt because that's going to be the best way
• 48:11
  to get there, or people are going to be using their
• 48:13
  challenge mode portals. And it's like I can do this
• 48:15
  dungeon, but only once every eight hours and I hope it
• 48:19
  doesn't take that long. Ang yeah, so I'm glad that
• 48:22
  they're putting in the portals even though they're only going
• 48:25
  to be there for just this this mini.
• 48:28
  So I hope not, it's leave those portals there.
• 48:30
  It's gonna do nobody any harm to just leave them there.
• 48:33
  It's only going to facilitate people getting around the world.
• 48:36
  I want a portal to care as an because when I mount farming,
• 48:39
  and I gotta go back to Old Cara, but used to be Right there in
• 48:45
  dalaran in northrend dollar and I could just take a portal and
• 48:47
  get the Keratin and then they took it out under like yeah,
• 48:50
  screw Manny in particular, the rest of you players going to
• 48:52
  suffer because we don't want Manny farming, this easy and I'm
• 48:56
  sorry guys. This is has it out for me.
• 48:59
  I must be because of my ego, but we'll move on.
• 49:01
  We'll move on to some a little exciting news for fans of the
• 49:08
  lore of World of Warcraft. They added an Easter egg.
• 49:12
  Well, not really an Easter egg. They Added some cool new set
• 49:16
  dressing to the windrunner Spire out in the ghost lands.
• 49:19
  Jesse over at last codex, tweeted out a video earlier this
• 49:25
  week about this Nifty little set dressing.
• 49:29
  They added, they added different items that are interactable on
• 49:33
  the, on the spider itself for each of the each of the winter
• 49:38
  siblings. So if you, if you want to go
• 49:41
  check that out, it's currently on on the PTR.
• 49:44
  But you'll be able to check it out for yourself.
• 49:46
  Whenever nine point two point five drops.
• 49:48
  There's entire little video if you want to check it out ahead
• 49:51
  of it dropping. But yeah, good on Jesse and boss
• 49:55
  codecs, for finding that cool little Easter egg.
• 49:58
  The other thing that is coming, in, nine point two point.
• 50:01
  Five is the Enigma of Rena and that's going to be put into the
• 50:06
  rotation except that it's going to be a version that doesn't
• 50:09
  have the interactive pillars, which was the big feature of
• 50:13
  that. Arena and a developers note on
• 50:17
  the that was put out there says that Our intention was to
• 50:22
  release this map with a unique mechanic essential button that
• 50:26
  allowed players to manipulate the pillar configuration
• 50:28
  throughout the match. Unfortunately, we encountered
• 50:32
  challenges during the implementation that would have
• 50:34
  resulted in a poor quality experience while we continue to
• 50:39
  work on this Arenas. Unique mechanic and evaluate it
• 50:42
  for future release. We've decided to go forward with
• 50:45
  a version of the Arena that has a single pillar configuration
• 50:49
  that remains locked throughout the match, and I'm not a huge
• 50:54
  PVP here. But in my opinion, don't bother
• 51:00
  if it is not the cool unique version that you're working on
• 51:04
  and will eventually come to the game if you can sort out the
• 51:07
  issues. I think you're just diluting the
• 51:10
  matchmaking pool. I think that the Arena's should
• 51:13
  have their own unique, layouts and challenges and cool, cool
• 51:16
  things. And putting a central pillar
• 51:19
  that is on interactive mobile. It doesn't really offer anything
• 51:23
  new like it doesn't offer anything cool.
• 51:26
  I don't think it does anything other than add window dressing
• 51:31
  to to the pool. We did get another Arena that
• 51:36
  came in back in 9.2. As there were supposed to be two
• 51:39
  Arenas that came in at 9.2. And this was one of the ones
• 51:41
  that were delayed. So I don't, I don't see the
• 51:46
  point in adding this to the rotation.
• 51:49
  Yeah, my suggestion would because it sounds like they
• 51:52
  wanted it to be where you press a button.
• 51:54
  And then the configuration of the room changes.
• 51:57
  My suggestion would be to have the, have the changing aspect of
• 52:03
  the room still remain in this Arena, but just have it on like
• 52:08
  a randomized. Timer where things are changing.
• 52:12
  Yeah. That's what our automation, just
• 52:13
  to make it a little bit more. Staying.
• 52:16
  But I do see the, I do see the implementation challenges but
• 52:19
  that as well, even even Beyond like having the interactable
• 52:24
  part of the Arena, be something that has implementation
• 52:28
  challenges. Even just something as simple as
• 52:31
  having the room change and random like it's something that
• 52:35
  we've seen before, right? Like the Delran sewers like we
• 52:38
  have the big column of water that drops in the middle of the
• 52:41
  room that then creates a line of sight.
• 52:44
  Right for players to, to use, to their advantage, or create a
• 52:49
  disadvantage for the opposing team.
• 52:50
  Like, that's, that's something that is interesting.
• 52:55
  And I think could be an interesting facet of this
• 52:59
  particular Arena that they're not using to its full potential
• 53:05
  because they've just decided they just want something like
• 53:09
  something new for people to look at doing Arena instead of
• 53:12
  something interesting to be added to the arena.
• 53:15
  Just like you're saying so I think I'm in the same boat.
• 53:18
  Like if they're just going to have like a static room like Why
• 53:24
  with other than other, than the, the novelty of having something
• 53:27
  new for people to look at, which is like that.
• 53:30
  I don't want to downplay the value of having that, but like
• 53:33
  it's just it's just a new room to play in.
• 53:36
  Okay, you're consistent complained about season 4 is
• 53:42
  that? There's nothing new.
• 53:44
  But on the flip side of this, just adding something new with
• 53:48
  no substance, isn't the answer. So we Add in substantive new
• 53:57
  things that are cool. I think that season for I'm
• 54:00
  going to be playing because the affix seems very fun.
• 54:03
  And there were dungeons, that I've never done an M plus before
• 54:06
  that is definitely going to keep me playing and season for the
• 54:10
  raiding. However, I'm not entirely sure,
• 54:13
  just The Faded, affix doesn't feel enticing enough to me and
• 54:20
  along those lines. Wow, had data.
• 54:23
  Mind the item levels for rewards from these faded raids.
• 54:28
  We are seeing that compared to what we have.
• 54:30
  Now. The item level is going to be
• 54:32
  jumping from 239 in raid finder that we have now to 265.
• 54:37
  Raid finder, that's equal to heroic that we get now normal is
• 54:43
  going to be 278 with, you know, n boss is giving 285 heroic is
• 54:47
  going to be to 91. With embosses going out to 97
• 54:54
  and Mythic is going to be giving 30 for loot with n bosses doing
• 54:59
  311. Loot.
• 55:01
  That's some serious item levels, but the extra complication is
• 55:07
  that, we haven't seen any new rank of legendaries, which
• 55:12
  means, if you are a heroic Raider, you are going to be
• 55:15
  getting all of your loot at minimum of 290.
• 55:20
  One equivalent to the highest rank of legendaries right now.
• 55:23
  With then bosses, having gear that is higher than the current
• 55:27
  rank of legendaries and Mythic even worse where your lowest
• 55:32
  item level is going to be right there.
• 55:35
  Eight item levels higher. Sorry 291 going up to 30 for my
• 55:40
  apologies. Hmm.
• 55:43
  So that's going to be a jump and then of course 311 is another 20
• 55:47
  item levels on top of your to 91's.
• 55:50
  So it's going to be an interesting balance if they
• 55:52
  don't add in legendaries. And that makes me feel that.
• 55:55
  This isn't a release candidate. They're clearly meeting to add
• 55:59
  in a couple more things. Yeah.
• 56:01
  Yeah, but I mean, like, like we said earlier, 925 isn't Like
• 56:08
  it's the next thing that we're going to get but it's not season
• 56:11
  four. So there's yeah, just the data
• 56:12
  used to be there. Doesn't it?
• 56:15
  They can patch it in patch you later.
• 56:17
  Mmm. Maybe maybe I would imagine
• 56:20
  design will say sorry. One thing.
• 56:22
  I will say with legendaries is with all of these new dungeons
• 56:26
  coming back in season four Mythic.
• 56:28
  Plus we are going to be having the bit rings and the logic
• 56:31
  Loops from Mecca. Mecca, gone, which is going to
• 56:34
  be something that people would love to have at high editing.
• 56:37
  Evil in their ring slots. We are going to be getting those
• 56:41
  cool items like the creek cloak, from Kara's and that healers
• 56:45
  loved and people who loved crit, loved and all these different
• 56:49
  items that are going to be in different slots and it would
• 56:52
  suck to be like, no, you don't get a bit band because your
• 56:56
  legendary of choice either conflicts with your tear gear
• 57:00
  that is still going to be around or one of these cool items.
• 57:04
  So I would love if If they open up legendaries to fit in any
• 57:10
  slot, so you can get a memory that used to be restricted to.
• 57:15
  Let's say, Helm chest ring. Well, now you could put it in
• 57:19
  your boots for all I care, right?
• 57:21
  They put it everywhere, put it on.
• 57:24
  This is going to be like that, hot sauce.
• 57:28
  We're going to put that on everything.
• 57:36
  Oh goodness, goodness, goodness. Goodness.
• 57:40
  Well, I don't really I don't really have anything else to say
• 57:43
  about any of the nine point. Two point.
• 57:45
  Five stuff. Do you have any any closing
• 57:47
  thoughts on where we're standing?
• 57:50
  I think it's going to be a interesting season for those who
• 57:52
  are going to play it like with the faster pace of rewards and a
• 57:55
  condensed season and all the different things that they're
• 57:58
  trying. I think it's going to be a fun
• 58:02
  thing, especially if you're returning to the game.
• 58:04
  If you're somebody who like maybe missed sanctum of
• 58:07
  domination, what sucked about sanctum of domination was
• 58:10
  shards, and that's not coming back.
• 58:12
  If you are somebody who missed the opening tier of Castle, Nath
• 58:16
  Ria, you get to play that at relevance that Styles and so I
• 58:20
  had it relevant item levels and that was just pure fun.
• 58:23
  I loved the castle mathia. So definitely something there
• 58:28
  for returning players, for new players to jump into season for
• 58:31
  ahead of The new expansion for people who've been through it
• 58:37
  the entire time. I think that's going to be the
• 58:39
  harder sell in my opinion. Yeah, it's stuff that we've
• 58:43
  already seen. Yeah, but let's see what season
• 58:47
  for has to offer. With that said.
• 58:49
  If maybe you are in that boat. Maybe you want to turn your
• 58:53
  attention to Classic. And that's what we're going to
• 58:55
  do right now. So live, tell us tell us what's
• 58:58
  happening in. WoW, classic.
• 59:01
  Nobody knows it's all Chaos, everything's up in the air.
• 59:05
  I'm just kidding. We know, we know a little bit
• 59:07
  about what's going on with with five classic just a little bit.
• 59:11
  So this past week, we saw the opening of the sunwell the Sun.
• 59:19
  Well opened up on the 19th, which is the final content
• 59:22
  patch, for for burning Crusade classic, which means wrath
• 59:27
  classic. Wrath classic is just around the
• 59:31
  corner as of a couple of weeks ago whenever they made the
• 59:34
  announcement that they were going to be doing wrath classic,
• 59:37
  which, you know, to no one's surprise like everyone.
• 59:40
  Everyone knew that this was coming especially, especially
• 59:44
  those of us in the classic community.
• 59:49
  They also started, you know, saying like Hey, we're going to
• 59:53
  be doing, you know beta over the summer and I think I think that
• 59:58
  we're going to be getting into into the Wrath classic beta a
• 1:00:03
  little bit faster than people might think.
• 1:00:06
  Like I think that we may be like going off of the off of the
• 1:00:13
  release schedule for burning Crusade classic.
• 1:00:15
  I think that the the Wrath classic It's is much much much
• 1:00:21
  closer than then. We initially may have even hoped
• 1:00:26
  or thought that it was going to be as in.
• 1:00:28
  I believe that will be in Wrath classic by the end of the
• 1:00:32
  summer. At least that's my hope.
• 1:00:36
  But regardless sudden will did come out on the 19th and being
• 1:00:43
  the the final update to burning Crusade classic.
• 1:00:47
  It means that we're wrapping up for Crusade.
• 1:00:51
  And so it's exciting times all around, but we did have a
• 1:00:57
  interview with the lead engineer on the classic team, Brian
• 1:01:01
  Birmingham, where they talked about wrath classic and some of
• 1:01:05
  the things that that they're looking at doing with with that
• 1:01:11
  experience. So, on the note of dungeon
• 1:01:15
  finder being removed, they did say that they're looking for
• 1:01:19
  Ways to improve the the group finding experience because what
• 1:01:24
  they implemented in burning Crusade, classic was basically
• 1:01:28
  like a like a dumbed-down version of the the dungeon
• 1:01:33
  finder tool that we have in or not even dungeon finder just a
• 1:01:38
  group finder tool that we have in in retail where they just had
• 1:01:42
  the dungeons listed and then you could put either your group
• 1:01:45
  looking for people or you could say, you were looking for groups
• 1:01:48
  for that specific done. Jigeon, so they're the looking
• 1:01:51
  at expanding that to land and making a more robust tool for
• 1:01:56
  finding groups. Since they aren't going to be
• 1:01:58
  putting dungeon finder, which I we haven't talked about it on
• 1:02:01
  the show, but I am very ecstatic that they're not putting a
• 1:02:04
  dungeon finder like they're not doing the the queue up dungeon
• 1:02:08
  finder where U qn and you get grouped with people in your
• 1:02:11
  battle group and go, you know, get put in a dungeon with
• 1:02:15
  randoms that I'm doing. I changed my mind on dungeon
• 1:02:18
  finder. I didn't like it because I felt
• 1:02:23
  that it worked against Community.
• 1:02:25
  It worked against, it made things.
• 1:02:28
  So, convenient to go find another group that nobody was
• 1:02:33
  attached to the group that they had back in my day, you know,
• 1:02:38
  Wrath of the Lich King. We used to holler all up and
• 1:02:42
  down trade chat and we would say, looking for a tank, looking
• 1:02:47
  for a Healer looking for one DPS.
• 1:02:49
  And then we would walk our selves uphill both ways to get
• 1:02:56
  to the dungeon literally was snow literally in the snow
• 1:03:00
  because this was Wrath of the Lich King everywhere with snow
• 1:03:03
  and then we would run that dungeon and it may not be the
• 1:03:07
  best tank and it may not be the best healer and maybe you need
• 1:03:11
  to teach that DPS a thing or two, but you took the time
• 1:03:14
  because it took so much time to get the group together that you
• 1:03:17
  were committed. And when He became known for
• 1:03:21
  being horrible or ninja luta one way or another.
• 1:03:26
  They stopped getting groups because it was known.
• 1:03:31
  And that created a need to present yourself and to conduct
• 1:03:38
  yourself in the best manner possible.
• 1:03:41
  So I get that excuse, I get that reasoning and that fight against
• 1:03:46
  the dungeon finder, but I've been talking with several people
• 1:03:50
  who being playing several other games, whether it be ESO or
• 1:03:54
  Final Fantasy, 14 or whatever. And they don't have the same
• 1:03:58
  problem that we have in the wild Community about Toxic pick up
• 1:04:01
  groups and they do have systems like the Duty Finder where you
• 1:04:07
  have max level players going to do the lowest level dungeon
• 1:04:13
  being paired with absolute Sprouts of new age, and being
• 1:04:18
  kind and supportive and running them through.
• 1:04:22
  I was speaking with Joss just the other day and she was
• 1:04:26
  telling me about her experience, where she queued up as a Healer,
• 1:04:29
  a new healer. With very veteran people.
• 1:04:32
  And they saw that Sprout and they're like, oh you've never
• 1:04:35
  done this dungeon before. Let me tell you about all the
• 1:04:38
  stuff that this boss does. Let's go run you through and get
• 1:04:42
  all the achievements. Even though they already had the
• 1:04:44
  achievements. You know how hard it is to find?
• 1:04:46
  It achievement group in, wow, like there is something
• 1:04:50
  completely different at play in the wild community.
• 1:04:53
  So I'm no longer against Dungeon finder as the cause of the
• 1:04:58
  community break down. There's something else at play.
• 1:05:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:05:03
  I definitely agree with you there.
• 1:05:05
  Like I think there was like the conditions in which we know the
• 1:05:12
  the, you know, quote-unquote toxic community of World.
• 1:05:15
  Of Warcraft was just highlighted whenever the dungeon finder tool
• 1:05:21
  came out and probably probably exacerbated.
• 1:05:26
  And put on a fast track to where it is today, but you know, yeah,
• 1:05:30
  it will say it was probably sped up.
• 1:05:31
  Yeah. Yeah, so like it's not all bad
• 1:05:38
  but had there, there have been things that like definitely like
• 1:05:43
  the the developers of these other games have definitely
• 1:05:46
  taken steps because they saw what happened with these tools
• 1:05:49
  in. Wow, and they were just like, I
• 1:05:51
  don't want that, but I do think that, you know, So in general, I
• 1:05:56
  think it's a good move that they're not going to go through,
• 1:05:58
  putting the dungeon finder tool in to wrath classic.
• 1:06:01
  I think that's a great step for them because the, like burning
• 1:06:06
  Crusade, classic is driving like the servers are doing well, that
• 1:06:11
  like, they have lots of people rating, like way more people
• 1:06:14
  rating than ever rated back. When this, this was first coming
• 1:06:19
  out first time around. And so it's a good thing.
• 1:06:23
  It's a good thing to see the way that the community His kind of
• 1:06:26
  restructured itself from the way things were back in the day and
• 1:06:31
  I think keeping that ball going, keeping keeping things,
• 1:06:35
  relatively simple not in, you know, not, you know, doing too
• 1:06:39
  much to, you know, to upset things I think is a good idea.
• 1:06:47
  So I'm all for it. And I'm also all for them,
• 1:06:50
  improving the group fighting experience in other ways other
• 1:06:53
  than, you know, put having a button that You push to get in a
• 1:06:57
  dungeon with random people, but the next thing was that they're
• 1:07:02
  discussing changing how raid blackouts work.
• 1:07:05
  So I don't want to get too much of the nitty-gritty about this
• 1:07:08
  one because raid lockouts and And discussing how raid lockouts
• 1:07:13
  worked back in the day. We'll probably put everyone here
• 1:07:16
  to sleep. But just you know for the sake
• 1:07:20
  of Simplicity sake of not Simplicity, but the sake of
• 1:07:23
  being thorough right lockouts. Sucked back in the day where you
• 1:07:28
  either. Okay.
• 1:07:33
  It just didn't really suck. But you had you had like similar
• 1:07:38
  to how we have like loot optimization and and what some
• 1:07:44
  people would call abusing in current, while we had similar
• 1:07:48
  things back in the day, where, you know, you'd have normal
• 1:07:51
  lockouts and you'd have like so, like a team run Tin, Man.
• 1:07:55
  And then 25, man. And then go back into 10, man
• 1:07:59
  heroic. And then 25 man.
• 1:08:01
  Heroic could, I mean, that really only had to be worried
• 1:08:04
  about in icecrown, Citadel, but I don't know, whether it was
• 1:08:07
  actually asked, you're right? The worst was icecrown Citadel,
• 1:08:10
  because icecrown, Citadel literally had the four levels of
• 1:08:14
  difficulty. Without it being, you know, raid
• 1:08:18
  finder. In fact, it's pretty much the
• 1:08:20
  same today where you would have the gear that you get from raid
• 1:08:25
  finder to gear that you have from normal to get it from
• 1:08:28
  heroic and the gear that you have in Mythic except they were
• 1:08:30
  broken down into groups of 10 and 25 players.
• 1:08:34
  So at that point, you have normal and heroic in ICC, so you
• 1:08:41
  would have normal 10, normal 25. Heroic, 10 or 25 the
• 1:08:47
  complications with the lockout. The limited amount of trials
• 1:08:50
  that you would get in ICC as something I want to see what
• 1:08:53
  they do when they get there. But in the in the previous raid,
• 1:09:00
  which was you know, to trial of the Crusader, they had toggle
• 1:09:04
  difficulties there and so you would have the trial to Crusader
• 1:09:08
  10 to 25, but you would also have the trial of the grand
• 1:09:10
  Crusader 10 and 25. That's where the lockout system
• 1:09:17
  was the worse before that difficulties and ICC were a
• 1:09:21
  matter of doing a mechanic in a way similar to you would do
• 1:09:24
  achievements to activate the hard mode and hard modes didn't
• 1:09:29
  exist before that. So simply just ten and twenty
• 1:09:31
  five versions of the raid. Yeah, but either way, they're
• 1:09:35
  going to be looking at reducing the number of runs that players.
• 1:09:41
  May feel quote-unquote mandatory.
• 1:09:44
  In the two difficulties, which I'm definitely going to be
• 1:09:47
  interested to see how they, how they manage that, what they come
• 1:09:51
  up with for that because that's what's rating.
• 1:09:54
  I'm looking at. I don't think they're going to
• 1:09:57
  do Flex rating but about their bikes, but as someone that is
• 1:10:01
  interested in, in rating, in Wrath classic, I like this.
• 1:10:06
  This definitely is something that interests me and may, you
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  know, depending on what they come up with may, you know,
• 1:10:11
  incentivize or deter me from going in and And rating in Wrath
• 1:10:15
  classic, so we'll see. You had it though like season
• 1:10:19
  for I've done that Wrath of the Lich King.
• 1:10:22
  I've done that but I want to do that.
• 1:10:24
  What? I mean, there's been enough
• 1:10:28
  separation between me rating, wrath it because I didn't get
• 1:10:32
  the full experience. Like I did a little bit of ICC,
• 1:10:35
  but I didn't get to raid in the entire rest of the expansion
• 1:10:38
  because I was too busy leveling through that expansion and only
• 1:10:42
  hit max level like right around the time that ICC was coming
• 1:10:46
  out. So I didn't get to experience
• 1:10:47
  the rest of it. So it's something that I've done
• 1:10:50
  but I never completed ICC. So that's something that's on my
• 1:10:54
  bucket list of things to do. Do but I didn't get to see the
• 1:10:57
  rest of the raids. So that's, that's why it's
• 1:11:00
  interested or why I'm interested in doing it, but I completely
• 1:11:04
  understand where you're coming from.
• 1:11:05
  Like you didn't do that before but I didn't so that nobody
• 1:11:09
  wants to go back to really saying Tom just skip it just
• 1:11:12
  this stupid. Now I do though.
• 1:11:14
  No, you don't you think you do, but you don't But I do though so
• 1:11:25
  quickly quickly, moving through the rest of this interview.
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  They noted that they are looking at kind of balancing the the
• 1:11:36
  racial abilities there. They want to do something a
• 1:11:38
  little bit more fantasy forward. Although they don't really know
• 1:11:41
  exactly what they want to do. But they know that faction
• 1:11:43
  imbalance is a huge, huge huge issue, probably exacerbated.
• 1:11:49
  Way more in classic than it is in in retail servers because you
• 1:11:54
  basically have, you know, servers where it's like, 97% one
• 1:11:58
  faction. Like, that's that's how hard the
• 1:12:02
  lien is in the faction of balance.
• 1:12:04
  So when it comes to stuff like wintergrasp, they're going to
• 1:12:06
  have to come up with some pretty interesting solutions to balance
• 1:12:10
  that out because otherwise it's just going to be like, there's
• 1:12:13
  not going to be any point to doing, whatever grasp.
• 1:12:15
  And there's a lot of stuff that you know comes With doing
• 1:12:19
  wintergrasp, like it's a huge part of the expansion.
• 1:12:22
  So, that's, you know, that's that's going to be something
• 1:12:25
  that they have to tackle. Your grass was so much fun back
• 1:12:27
  in a day. It really was.
• 1:12:31
  But reason cleansing totem. Sorry, I'm nervous.
• 1:12:35
  I'm going. All nostalgic, man.
• 1:12:37
  Give me, give me back. My poison cleansing told him.
• 1:12:40
  I don't care if I was dunking on decays and Rogues alight by just
• 1:12:43
  massively clearing out their diseases.
• 1:12:45
  Think it's are of, did they were Opie?
• 1:12:47
  We were the only thing keeping them in check.
• 1:12:50
  But they're, they're also, you know, not really worried too
• 1:12:55
  much about printer from a post Nerf stuff, especially,
• 1:13:00
  especially the, you know, talking about ICC.
• 1:13:01
  Like, they basically had a nerve system built in to that raid
• 1:13:05
  where you progressively week over week, got more and more
• 1:13:08
  powerful. So they don't really have to
• 1:13:11
  worry about about doing any any nerfing, any like, reversing
• 1:13:16
  nerves or anything like that, because it's all we've kind of
• 1:13:19
  built into the expansion. They noted, that dual Talent
• 1:13:23
  specialization will have no restrictions right out the gate.
• 1:13:26
  So, that's going to be great and fun, and awesome.
• 1:13:29
  And then they're also looking at ways of introducing ring of
• 1:13:32
  Valor into Rath classic, which is another, another cooling good
• 1:13:36
  thing, especially for the PVP years because I do, I know that
• 1:13:39
  there is like a, like not nearly as intense as the, the arena
• 1:13:44
  World Championship in retail, but there is, there is a
• 1:13:48
  competitive scene. Or PVP in classic that has been
• 1:13:51
  growing pretty steadily since since burning Crusade because
• 1:13:56
  that's kind of, when the competitive PVP, like, kicked
• 1:14:00
  off was, was in burning Crusade and that's been building.
• 1:14:03
  And I'm excited to see if they're going to do anything any
• 1:14:06
  like big tournaments around that, but we'll have to wait and
• 1:14:10
  see but if you want to read the interview, we do have the link
• 1:14:15
  in our show notes. But yeah, that's is really not
• 1:14:21
  much else going on around classic that we're just kind of
• 1:14:26
  waiting doctrine of the very next and possibly last classic
• 1:14:31
  expansion because. Yeah, yeah, I think that's,
• 1:14:34
  that's a lot of news and I do like the stuff that they're
• 1:14:37
  doing. It's not the absolutely faithful
• 1:14:41
  to what it was because they are understanding of those issues,
• 1:14:44
  especially things like that. You just glossed over like the
• 1:14:47
  Dual Talent. That used to be an escalating
• 1:14:51
  gold cost and back in the day that would work.
• 1:14:54
  But like you were saying earlier, the community is a lot
• 1:14:58
  different now, and we would just grind the golden switch and then
• 1:15:01
  grind the golden switch and then grind the gold as which, so
• 1:15:04
  we're moving that restriction is just the smarter way and just
• 1:15:10
  what we're we're hoping that they see a lot more of in
• 1:15:14
  dragonfly, but in terms of the future of the World of Warcraft,
• 1:15:18
  Left. There are some big changes
• 1:15:20
  happening behind the scenes. There have been two job postings
• 1:15:25
  for very key positions that are opening up new positions that
• 1:15:30
  are now available on the blizzard job site.
• 1:15:34
  One is the narrative director and the other is a creative
• 1:15:38
  director. And these people would be
• 1:15:41
  working in tandem with the leadership team which includes
• 1:15:46
  game directors. Like Ian has a Kostas and Morgan
• 1:15:51
  day. Who is it?
• 1:15:53
  Who's now moved into position for that, that includes like
• 1:15:59
  heavy art Direction and where the game itself is going to be
• 1:16:06
  going in the future. We pulled out two key parts of
• 1:16:11
  the job description responsibilities for this which
• 1:16:14
  underlines what we're talking about.
• 1:16:15
  So for the narrative director, one of the ointments is to
• 1:16:19
  balance. The moment-to-moment narrative
• 1:16:22
  experience with planning and execution of arcs that may span
• 1:16:27
  multiple years. They are planning deep into the
• 1:16:30
  future for a World of Warcraft. The creative director has to
• 1:16:35
  establish a long-term vision for development of the characters
• 1:16:39
  cultures environments and lower across multiple content,
• 1:16:43
  expansions and supporting media. I think that is very key.
• 1:16:48
  When you are looking at what wow has done have always been
• 1:16:53
  heavily boring from the past and those cultures that are already
• 1:16:56
  established pan. Darian's from.
• 1:16:59
  Mr. Pandaria was pretty much the last Ooh thing that was based on
• 1:17:06
  old stuff where they have to really develop without, but
• 1:17:09
  we're really reaching into new stuff.
• 1:17:11
  We had basically no concept of the shadowlands before Shadow
• 1:17:16
  land itself. They hadn't really discussed
• 1:17:19
  this. It was all this big mystery and
• 1:17:21
  the Jailer coming out of nowhere.
• 1:17:23
  The Jailer coming out of nowhere, has not landed as well
• 1:17:27
  as they would have hoped and so these roles are really important
• 1:17:31
  leading into the future. The Denials is them returning to
• 1:17:35
  more. Sure.
• 1:17:36
  Footing we have known about the dragon Isles since it was
• 1:17:41
  something that they had thought they were going to put in
• 1:17:44
  vanilla before they decided to do the expansion of the burning
• 1:17:46
  Crusade, the characters that were dealing with a large part.
• 1:17:50
  Of them are known quantities. We've dealt with alexstrasza and
• 1:17:54
  the other aspects before rathian is while a new character to
• 1:17:59
  World of Warcraft is based on Deathwing that existed from way
• 1:18:05
  back in the RTS days, so, By the time these guys get online.
• 1:18:11
  We're removing after dragon fight while probably penciled
• 1:18:15
  out an outlined is going to be very much built with these guys
• 1:18:20
  in mind. Yeah.
• 1:18:24
  It's it's exciting that they're looking for these positions.
• 1:18:27
  They like they've just made the The Narrative director.
• 1:18:30
  I think out of whole cloth Thicket.
• 1:18:31
  I think they've had creative director before but narrative
• 1:18:34
  director is a wholly new title that they're they're looking to
• 1:18:38
  To fill a position for. But the one thing that I, there
• 1:18:43
  will say regarding this position is that I hope that they are
• 1:18:49
  very thoroughly looking for, not sis white guys to fill these
• 1:18:55
  positions because most of the director positions they've had
• 1:18:58
  filled in the past have been filled by White's s guys and
• 1:19:03
  they they could use, they could use perspectives other than that
• 1:19:08
  in. In the director's room looking
• 1:19:11
  for that. So that's that's my hope.
• 1:19:12
  Like I'm not going to say it has to be not just white guys, but I
• 1:19:18
  would very much like it to not be.
• 1:19:20
  I know that the team becomes as diverse as the people that are
• 1:19:26
  trying to represent for sure and we have seen some stuff along
• 1:19:31
  that I again point to last week where I was talking about the
• 1:19:37
  interview that was done. Done about Asian Heritage and
• 1:19:41
  representing that in the game industry and that is somebody
• 1:19:44
  who is currently on the team for the, for the narrative, right?
• 1:19:50
  So that's already a process going through.
• 1:19:52
  Of course. I want to them to build on that.
• 1:19:56
  And one of the responsibilities that I didn't highlight is that
• 1:20:00
  they are looking for people who exemplify behaviors and take
• 1:20:04
  actions to build an inclusive and diverse culture in our Game
• 1:20:10
  and in the game worlds that they create, I think that that is
• 1:20:14
  important, especially considering where they are
• 1:20:18
  coming from. I think that opening up these
• 1:20:19
  positions is about getting more voices, and while people might
• 1:20:24
  look back and be like, oh, it's so amazing.
• 1:20:27
  When it was Mets in the story of World of Warcraft, really
• 1:20:31
  follows. A lot of medicines perspective
• 1:20:34
  in the world thrall, suddenly got a kid and started up.
• 1:20:38
  A family when Mets himself was developing an actual family life
• 1:20:44
  and moving into that part of his thing, connecting with his
• 1:20:48
  parents and such like that. And he's here to judge that is a
• 1:20:53
  thing. Like in fact, throw really feels
• 1:20:56
  like the personification of medicine in the World of
• 1:20:59
  Warcraft game. And how much of it has centered
• 1:21:04
  around thrall, has been such a big part and the fact that
• 1:21:07
  thrall suddenly Dropped out of the Limelight when Mets and
• 1:21:10
  moved away, doesn't seem coincidental.
• 1:21:13
  So yes, I would love to see more views and more diverse point of
• 1:21:18
  views being represented in this game and being represented in
• 1:21:22
  the writers room for sure. Yep.
• 1:21:24
  Absolutely. Well, I think that's pretty much
• 1:21:28
  it Manny. Yeah.
• 1:21:29
  So I guess with that said we are going to well this would
• 1:21:35
  normally be the place where we would have emails and questions.
• 1:21:38
  Is from you. And if you want to put those
• 1:21:40
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• 1:21:44
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  slash fastest chord, but today we received a little bit of
• 1:21:57
  encouragement. That was put out by Ali and
• 1:22:01
  people who know Ali G does dungeon fables, which is
• 1:22:05
  currently on Hiatus, but also does another Excellent World of
• 1:22:09
  Warcraft show called live, laugh floor and Ally, put out that
• 1:22:13
  just as Friday saying, happy Friday.
• 1:22:16
  I encourage you today or this weekend to pick one friend and
• 1:22:19
  tell them why you like them, that you care for them and the
• 1:22:23
  good stuff like that. You might be surprised how
• 1:22:26
  refreshing and helpful. It is for both of you and I'm
• 1:22:31
  sure a lot of people who have followed this.
• 1:22:34
  I've reached out to their friends in DMS and stuff and
• 1:22:37
  shared that but I have a plan. Form.
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  So I get to both for fill this, in the most malicious compliant
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  amazing person podcaster that I look up to you, put so much
• 1:22:52
  heart and soul into every project that you do and you
• 1:22:57
  resonate. So much with this community.
• 1:23:00
  You are constantly looking for ways to make this world better
• 1:23:04
  to support the people around you.
• 1:23:07
  And I think that is an Example, we can all follow.
• 1:23:10
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  And they also cover the lore and stories of the World of
• 1:23:29
  Warcraft. Now with that said, we're going
• 1:23:34
  to get out of here. So live, where can people find
• 1:23:38
  you when you're not talking about the World of Warcraft.
• 1:23:41
  You can find me on Twitter. Probably talking about World of
• 1:23:45
  Warcraft or Final Fantasy or, you know, just games in general,
• 1:23:48
  whatever, whatever. I feel like talking about that
• 1:23:50
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• 1:23:55
  You can also find myself and Manny and a whole bunch of other
• 1:24:00
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  Which we have plugged it several times this episode.
• 1:24:05
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• 1:24:13
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• 1:24:17
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