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Kai Trump Isn’t Playing the Politics Game | Episode 14 · Sincerely American

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  Hi, Sincerely sisters, and welcome back to Sincerely
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  American. We have some fun topics to cover
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  for you guys today, so let's hop right into it.
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  All right, Cameron, this one we've been laughing about for a
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  little while now. I feel like we've wanted to
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  touch on this for a while. Maximizing your day.
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  Should this be controversial? And we'll roll the reel, OK for
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  our listening audience. It's a reel that says, my
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  problem is I think every day should look like this.
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  And it's this guy in this beautiful fur coat, and he's
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  eating burrata. He has olives.
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  He has his little drink going on, and he's putting his little
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  balsamic vinegar. And Cameron and I joke all the
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  time, like, this is like, literally like, we like, we like
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  live this way. You would think like we like,
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  pretend to like, live like millionaires, but we're not.
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  No, I love this so much. I mean, if COVID taught us
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  anything, it was that it was more abnormal to be isolated
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  from everyone and everything and, you know, just be cooped up
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  in your home or wherever you were all day.
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  That's not natural to humans. Like you should be out and
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  about. That's that's the beauty about
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  America too, is there's so many different restaurants to try and
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  so many different people to me. And like the fact that he's out.
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  I could be on a random Tuesday. This is me and Jamie Kor, like
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  we will go to a random restaurant front that's like a
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  five star dining experience in the middle of a day while our
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  husbands are working. Like we have that luxury.
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  It's amazing. And we know where we're very,
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  very blessed. But I mean, this is how we live
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  our life. And it makes you just a happier
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  person. You're more social that way.
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  You feel more productive too, because you actually went about
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  your day a little bit differently.
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  You're not, you know, sitting in inside your home all day.
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  So I'm all for this. I think this is more natural for
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  humans, just like have this connection with, you know, the
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  wait staff and, you know, trying nice foods and like is living
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  your life. OK, I, like, agree with
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  everything you said. I'm going to push back a little
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  bit, Cam. Like, listen to me.
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  So my parents will say all the time, because we talk so much in
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  this day and age about how Gen. Z can't afford to buy a house.
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  We can't afford to buy anything anymore.
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  And all we do is like, go spend our money on frivolous things.
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  And it is true. I am so guilty of this.
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  Like genuinely, I'm guilty of that.
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  And so are you, Cam. And my parents are like, Jamie,
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  when we were your age, we were saving up for our house.
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  We are working our butts off and we were not going out and
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  getting like 5 star meals and eating out all these nice
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  restaurants and traveling the world like you do.
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  And so I do think like I hate like the boomer avocado toast
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  for like the reason why millennials and Gen.
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  Z aren't buying houses because of avocado toast and like buying
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  lattes every day. I roll my eyes at that because
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  obviously things were like way more less expensive back when
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  they were our age. But at the same time, there is
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  some truth to this that even my parents who did well back at,
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  you know, 20, it's 28 years old. I'm not 28 actually, but at 28
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  years old, they, they did well, but they were all about saving
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  their money and getting it and putting it into a house.
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  And they were like, it was actually a treat to eat out
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  versus I feel like with you and I, we just treat it like it's
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  like a regular thing. And I do think that kind of
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  contributes to just the whole culture.
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  And I think it has to do with Instagram too and social media.
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  It's like everybody wants to post where they are doing
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  something cool. No one wants to be at home being
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  lame, but I see it kind of as a double edged sword.
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  Yeah, I think that life is all about balance too.
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  So I totally agree with you. I don't think that you should
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  abuse that and actually realize that it is a blessing to be able
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  to go out and to have nice food and a nice dining experience.
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  But I do think that people should incorporate being more
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  social that way. And I and I understand what
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  you're saying to like every single degree what you're
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  talking about. It's also just more it's it's
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  unaffordable to like get a home right now for, for Gen.
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  Z, like we're seeing this housing crisis.
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  And so yeah, I do think people need to learn how to buckle
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  down, don't over consume. We see like an overconsumption
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  cultural on TikTok all the time because it's so easy to press a
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  button now with like Amazon Prime and tick tock shop.
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  Everything just shows up to your house the next day.
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  And then obviously we have Uber Eats, DoorDash, things like
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  that, that make it so accessible to be lazy and to spend more
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  money at the same time. So I totally agree with you
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  there. But I do think that people
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  should just delight in their life and they should go out and
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  have fun with their friends every once in a while and just
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  don't take anything too seriously.
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  But obviously with a healthy balance too.
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  I'm not advocating for you to be fiscally irresponsible or, you
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  know, put in time in places where you should be working or
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  doing other things. But I do think life's all about
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  balance and if you want to go have a nice meal with your with
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  your spouse or with your friends, I don't see the problem
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  in this. OK, I will also say this, Cam, I
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  think that there's been kind of a transition when you solve like
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  millennials was like, I'm going to girl boss era, you know, I'm
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  going to go work this corporate job and achieve all these big
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  things. No hate towards that whatsoever.
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  But I think you have seen with like Gen.
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  Z and especially our age with like a woman that we're like,
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  no, we want our man to provide us this amazing life and we want
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  to be doing our Pilates and we want to be stay at home moms and
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  we want to be going out and brunching like that's like the
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  goal in life. So I do think that kind of
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  touches on that as well that I think just like women want more
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  of nowadays, like in our generation, more of that like
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  very feminine relaxed lifestyle where they want to be like the
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  tennis moms and everything. And I do kind of love that
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  because that's very traditional to an extent.
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  It's, you know, it's like being that stay at home mom and having
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  that man that provides like an incredible life.
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  So I do think it's good. But like I said, I do think it
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  does contribute to the culture where people will go out and
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  buy, you know, these crazy meals like few times a week or an
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  outfit for every event. And then they're like stuck in
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  this renting cycle because they do live paycheck to paycheck.
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  So I do think it's a double edged sword.
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  But you know, it's another thing I'll stay on Cameron as someone
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  who does love cooking, cooking at home is also really
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  expensive. Like groceries are expensive
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  nowadays. Obviously, President Trump has
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  done a lot to bring down prices. I fully stand by that.
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  He's doing a lot. But still, like from what we saw
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  with Biden, there's a lot of work still to be done and he's
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  accomplishing it. But I am personally, it's some
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  people are really good and I've been trying to get better at
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  this. I think I did this in like my
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  New Year's resolution. I've been trying to get better
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  at like buying specific groceries where then I like
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  utilize all of the groceries instead of just like buying, for
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  example, some produce that just sits in my fridge and I use it
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  only for one meal and instead rolling that over to the next
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  meal. But I'm just not good at that.
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  Like, I feel like I'll buy a bunch of food to make all of
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  these, like, very intricate meals.
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  And then I just like, let a lot of food go to waste.
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  And then next thing you know, it's like my grocery bills like
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  $300 a week. Yeah, it's because we buy a lot
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  of fresh produce too. So you only have like a small
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  amount of time in order to use, you know, the veggies or any of
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  the fruits that you get. Especially because I know you
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  buy stuff for Vibby's like smoothies in the morning
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  sometimes and that like can be those fruits or veggies that can
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  only stay in the in the fridge for like a week.
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  So it is hard. But I luckily with, you know,
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  not we don't just have Pinterest like Gen.
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  Z. We have like Tik Toks and we
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  have reels where it's like these one pot meals or any other meals
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  where you can use some of that stuff.
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  And there's, it's just so accessible to see like what
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  snacks you can make with that too.
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  But with the IG reels and stuff, I understand now, like it's
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  being romanticized, like a soft life is being romanticized
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  where, you know, like you said, the Pilates, the Porsche, the
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  living by the beach or walking by the water and like, you know,
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  taking yourself out to nice restaurants with your
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  girlfriends and like shopping all day.
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  And I agree that some like for a lot of people that is not
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  realistic because, you know, people need to work and, and
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  things like that. So I understand how Instagram
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  can just fuel this culture. I've never feeling like it's
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  enough. But I think if you're realistic
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  about it and you just incorporate like a balance where
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  you're able to have fun times with your friends, but when it's
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  time to lock in and work, then you know you can make that
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  happen for yourself where you have everything in moderation in
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  life, whether it's like going out with your friends for, for a
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  meal like a month or, or going out with your spouse like maybe
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  like once every other week. Like I I do think you should
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  incorporate things for yourself sometimes and and live for
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  yourself and just like be happy I guess.
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  There is nothing we love more than a good mimosa brunch where
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  we put down the dreams and talk. I feel like it's like girls love
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  language and I I agree, you should get together and we have
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  a good time. Everything in moderation, right?
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  OK, transitioning, totally different subject here, but we
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  love this. We love her Kai Trump.
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  Talk about aspirational. Like, I swear to God, she is
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  just such a goal. It's like literally she's
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  amazing. I'm glad that she's getting out
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  there more during the second term because obviously she's a
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  little bit older now and is a little more forward facing and
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  she does an amazing thing with her golf and everything and does
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  all of her little TikTok videos. It's so fun.
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  She's like beautiful. I feel like everyone's like
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  obsessed with Kai Trump right now, but she did a podcast
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  interview the other day where she says she likes staying out
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  of politics because she thinks it's dangerous.
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  And she also mentioned that she thinks both sides have become a
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  little too extreme. What are your thoughts Cam?
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  She makes a really great point because I don't think that she
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  really even touched on like the danger of the fact where, you
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  know, I think her and her entire family saw her grandfather in a
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  attempted assassination attempt on her grandfather at a rally.
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  So I obviously think for physical safety reasons since it
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  can be dangerous. She also goes on in the
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  interview talking about how Secret Service does have to
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  follow her on some dates or if she's with her friends wanting
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  to go to the movies or like, partake in any normal activity
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  that her life has, you know, kind of changed that way.
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  And she's had to make sure she doesn't put that at the
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  forefront of her mind and still tries to live a normal life that
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  way. So I can understand from that
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  perspective why it would be dangerous to being in the
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  spotlight like that, obviously, in a very divisive climate.
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  So I think, but on the flip side of that, where she goes and she
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  talks about how both sides have, it's become very, very polarized
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  and very far left or very far right.
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  I just think that her parents raised her very well.
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  Like I, I listened to this video.
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  I'm like, this is common sense back again.
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  Like she and she's so young too. I do have to applaud her wisdom
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  for being so young and being so articulate and her thoughts and
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  being so relatable to. I feel like a lot of people can
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  relate to this, especially once you step out of like politics
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  from like a bird's eye perspective, right?
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  Because obviously we're still in it.
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  We do TV, we have this show like we, we are in it.
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  You know, you're in the DC area, so constantly being surrounded
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  by it. But if you step back from a
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  bird's eye view, a lot of people when it comes to politics just
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  don't want the government involved at all and they don't
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  want to know about it. And a lot of people have stopped
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  watching the news. That's why you're seeing a lot
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  of these ratings tank and traditional media is, is dying
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  essentially. And, you know, we're seeing more
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  media, obviously, like social, social media and things like
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  that continue to climb. But I think with her, it is a
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  dangerous game to play because I do think people can get
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  overconsumed by it. They can take headlines way too
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  literally. And it's like doomsday every
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  single day. If you're consuming this media
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  and these headlines and all of this all of the time.
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  I don't think that humans were, like, meant to do that.
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  And so I do think especially somebody at like her age with
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  this, with, you know, the trajectory that she's on golfing
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  at the University of Miami or Miami U down in Florida and just
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  like living her life and her YouTube and all the things that
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  she has going for her. I would just say, yeah, continue
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  on that trajectory. Because yes, politics can get
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  very divisive and cold sometimes.
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  And it is, it is dangerous in a sense where I think people can
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  get too wrapped up into it sometimes.
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  I agree with everything that you said.
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  And I just, I think you're so right.
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  People let politics rule their life.
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  And you know, for you and I, we've made a career out of this.
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  So that's different because we've devoted our career.
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  But there's a lot of people that haven't and just like live a
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  normal life and they still let politics rule their life
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  completely, as we've seen for the last two weeks in
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  Minneapolis, where these people just go out and riot all day
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  because they're so angry over the news constantly.
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  And I do, it's refreshing when someone's like, you know, I'm
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  just not going to go there. Like I just want to keep things
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  fun and light what I put out on the Internet.
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  I'm sure Kai has her own beliefs behind the scenes.
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  I think she's very supportive of her grandfather and that's
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  amazing. But I think she just is being
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  smart with this. Like, I don't need to add more
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  to fuel to the fire. There's already enough voices
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  out there. And also this as well.
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  Like she's only, I think she's 18 years old, right Cam?
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  Yeah, I think she is I. I don't maybe she might be 17
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  turning 18, but she's anyway, she's below the age of 20.
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  She's still a teenager. And like, frankly, I don't think
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  it's a good idea for like teenagers to necessarily be like
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  going out and putting their political opinions out to the
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  world constantly because I'm happy at 18.
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  I was not putting my political opinions out to the world 'cause
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  I think you sometimes need some time to develop, go through
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  college, maybe have a job 1st and kind of see how the world
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  works before. Like you're commenting on
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  everything. And so I, I just love her.
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  Like, I just think she has a really realistic approach to
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  this. And I think, like you said, she
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  was raised well and she's a smart girl and I think she has a
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  lot of young girls that follow her and she wants to keep things
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  fun and light. And I think people want that in
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  this day and age. We're sick of, like you said,
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  the doom and gloom, the constant negativity and the constant
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  anger. And I have as someone who works
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  in politics, I even have politics fatigue and I love
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  politics, but it just, it just becomes so divisive and you're
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  just like there, it feels like put some of these people,
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  there's just no winning them over.
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  And so it is nice to have like, I don't want all my TV shows.
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  I don't want all my famous people having to comment on
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  politics all the time. Like there are places that I
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  want more like neutral type of like neutral type content out
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  there. And so I'm a big fan of this.
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  I think she's like going down the right Rd. with this.
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  And you know, when she is really passionate about something maybe
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  down the line and she can take a stand.
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  But I think it's obvious she's support her grandfather and
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  supports her dad, who's obviously very involved.
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  And I think she's doing a great job.
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  Yeah, I do too. She's she's way beyond her
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  years. And I do think that there's like
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  such a societal pressure, especially nowadays, like
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  amongst, you know, influencers like Kai Trump, where they're
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  trying to force other influencers to speak out on
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  politics. And it's just like if you've got
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  a niche, like Kai has her niche with golf and YouTube and like,
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  like lifestyle trends, keep that up.
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  Like she's already got her niche.
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  She's built a brand around it. I know she launched a clothing
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  line as well. And so she's obviously very
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  successful. I don't think that it's
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  necessary for even if she does have the last name Trump, she
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  can 100% support her family and be a family girl at heart.
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  But I don't think that every single influencer needs to
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  comment on politics all the time.
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  Sometimes I follow influencers for fashion reasons or I follow
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  them because they they make really funny content and I just
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  like watching the videos, but I sometimes wouldn't want to hear
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  those people's opinions. I'm not saying that I wouldn't
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  want to hear Kai's. I actually, I, I love Kai and I
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  would want to hear more from her.
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  And that's why I wanted to mention her on this podcast
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  because I thought it was great that she went on to talk about
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  this. But especially I see a lot of
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  liberal fashion influencers that I follow really trying to
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  pressure and target other influencers to speak out.
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  I'm like, I'd rather you not honestly.
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  Because what if you don't even know what you're talking about
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  and, and you already have your niche and you're great at
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  fashion? Like people wouldn't follow.
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  I feel like people wouldn't follow me all the time because
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  of fashion. It's because we, we post about
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  our political beliefs that's become our brand.
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  And therefore, you know, we kind of stick with that.
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  It's like if I follow you for fashion or whatnot, like I'm not
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  following to hear your political belief truly.
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  And I think that's dangerous. Yeah, it is dangerous because
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  then you, you prop up these influencers like, you know, like
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  we've seen this like Alex Cooper and all these other influencers
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  or even Alex Earl. And I really like Alex Earl, but
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  I wouldn't necessarily say that, like, her lifestyle is always,
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  you know, aspirational for young women.
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  So I just don't think it's necessary to hear their
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  politics. And also, there was one time
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  she, like, commented on the immigration stuff, too.
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  And I was like, I was just like, I don't want to hear your
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  political beliefs truly. I want to watch how you're like
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  on Dancing with the Stars and having fun, you know?
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  OK. Going off a very similar vein,
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  which is a lot of like most Christians, I don't think it's a
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  surprise in this country. I think actually a lot of
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  political lines go to secular people versus Christians or
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  religious people in general. But there are Christians who
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  learn more liberal and they can be outspoken.
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  And Cam sent me this TikTok the other day and I thought this was
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  an interesting subject to cover. I love abortion and trans people
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  and migrants and birth control and immigrants and gay people
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  and having fun and just being a nice and overall good person.
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  And for our listening audience, it says when people ask me what
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  type of Christian I am. So camp, do you think in this
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  day and age, and I wouldn't have said this a few years ago, but
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  in this day and age, do you think that you can be a
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  democratic voter and also be a faithful Christian?
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  No. And and if you listen to this
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  video, it says like, I love abortion, I love trans people, I
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  love gay people. And it's like, OK, you can love
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  your neighbor as thyself and, and you can continue to treat
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  them the way that you wanted to be treated, but you don't have
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  to love these things. You don't have to sit on the
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  sidelines and just completely not disavow any sort of sin or
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  evil not to cause problems. Actually, I think that the Lord
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  wants the opposite from us. He wants us to stand firm in our
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  beliefs and be our own people and be grounded in our faith.
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  And you can do that in such a way where you're not, like,
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  casting judgment on people all the time.
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  And so no, I mean, I think with today's political climate, it's
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  just not, it's, you can't do it. You just can't do it.
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  You can't be liberal and you can't be like a devout Christian
• 18:02
  because look at what they're doing to our country.
• 18:05
  Look at like what they're doing with abortion and, and all of
• 18:08
  these other social issues as well, pushing this on to
• 18:10
  children, especially with the trans movement, especially
• 18:14
  women's locker rooms and women's sports, not having our own
• 18:16
  spaces. It's just gone way too far in
• 18:19
  society where you can just sit back and condone that.
• 18:23
  I mean, I think any person with common sense is like, whoa,
• 18:25
  whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute, Something's not right.
• 18:29
  Like, can we just get back? And, and I think it also comes
• 18:32
  from this thing in society too, especially in in our younger
• 18:35
  culture, in Gen. Z where they want to normalize
• 18:38
  everything. It's like a TikTok trend to be
• 18:40
  like, can we normalize, duh, or can we normalize this?
• 18:43
  And it's like, actually, I missed the days where like you
• 18:46
  were called out for being weird for that.
• 18:48
  Like you're a weirdo. You know what I mean?
• 18:49
  Like nobody wants to, I know, normalize this.
• 18:52
  Culture normalize everything. It's like bring back shame.
• 18:56
  Yeah, I don't say this like lightheartedly because I, I
• 19:00
  don't like to be overly divisive, but I, I really do
• 19:03
  think it's impossible to be a faithful Christian and vote for
• 19:06
  the Democratic Party. And there's many reasons that
• 19:09
  one, Democrats hate Christians. They hate Christianity.
• 19:12
  They call this country all the time out for being Christian
• 19:15
  nationalists and all these things.
• 19:17
  And so their entire agenda is to breakdown the church and
• 19:19
  breakdown Christian influence in this country.
• 19:21
  So there's one that attack on just Christianity in general
• 19:25
  that you hear from the left all the time.
• 19:28
  And let's not forget in 2024, the number one issue for people
• 19:33
  voting for Kamala Harris was abortion.
• 19:35
  That was a #1 juggernaut to get these women out to vote was for
• 19:40
  abortion. And I think that's a really,
• 19:41
  really sad state of society. And it's just completely
• 19:44
  incompatible with Christian faith.
• 19:46
  We believe in the right to life. We believe in protecting life.
• 19:49
  It's just clear in the Bible and she talks about the trans issue.
• 19:53
  She talks about the gay issue. The trans issue is also very
• 19:56
  clearly laid out in the Bible. He made the man and woman
• 19:59
  speaking about God. And we don't believe as
• 20:01
  Christians that you can just go and change your sex.
• 20:05
  I believe that as a Christian. I also believe that on a
• 20:07
  biological level as well that it's impossible to change your
• 20:09
  sex. And you know, when it comes to
• 20:11
  the gay issue as well, the Bible is also very clear in Leviticus
• 20:14
  that it does not condone a gay lifestyle.
• 20:17
  And like you said, Cameron, I think that's 100% true.
• 20:20
  You do not. As Christians, we are not
• 20:22
  hateful. I think you rarely see
• 20:24
  Christians coming out and being outwardly hateful or causing any
• 20:27
  violence towards people who live a lifestyle that they disagree
• 20:31
  with or is incompatible with the Bible and Christian values.
• 20:34
  I do believe that this is a free country in America and you can
• 20:36
  live the life that you choose to live as long as you're not
• 20:39
  harming others or going against it's the law.
• 20:41
  But at the same time, we do need to be, we need to speak out as
• 20:45
  Christians and remain true in our values.
• 20:48
  And we can, you know, I think it is love at the end of the day
• 20:51
  when you are speaking on biblical values and trying to
• 20:53
  improve other people's lives and guide them in a better
• 20:56
  direction, as you mentioned, not just celebrating everything.
• 21:00
  You know, when we saw with the gay movement, for example, it
• 21:02
  went from acceptance, which I think I agree that, you know,
• 21:06
  you shouldn't be hateful towards people who live differently than
• 21:08
  you. Sorry, it went from toleration
• 21:11
  to acceptance to celebration. And I'm not going to take part
• 21:15
  as a Christian and celebrating, you know, waving the gay trans
• 21:18
  flag everywhere because I don't believe that that lifestyle is
• 21:21
  in accordance with our biblical values and what Jesus intended
• 21:24
  for our lives. And you can separate that you
• 21:25
  can, you can still love someone who might live a different life
• 21:28
  than you, but also not condone it personally.
• 21:32
  But you know, you see with the left, we saw Joe Biden inviting
• 21:35
  trans people that were showing their ripping off their tops on
• 21:39
  the White House lawn. This is a party that just
• 21:41
  completely runs off abortion and pushing divisive values.
• 21:45
  And I do, I don't know as a faithful Christian how you can
• 21:49
  stand behind this and especially as a Catholic, I, I, I don't
• 21:52
  know how you can stand behind the Democratic Party because
• 21:54
  they're just so antithetical to everything that we believe as
• 21:58
  Christians. OK, now transition to a
• 22:00
  completely different dog. We're all over the map, which is
• 22:03
  what I think our girls love about this podcast.
• 22:05
  We'll cover some hardcore issues and then we'll also get to some
• 22:09
  fun things. So this just popped up today,
• 22:14
  Brooklyn Beckham and Nicola Peltz.
• 22:16
  I don't know if you guys have seen this.
• 22:17
  I feel like all of our girls have seen this.
• 22:19
  So this is Victoria and David Beckham's son.
• 22:22
  They married this. He married this actress Nicola
• 22:25
  Peltz. Their wedding was a few years
• 22:27
  ago, it was Oliver Vogue. They're obviously a beautiful
• 22:29
  couple and there's been like a lot of gossip about them not
• 22:34
  getting along with their parents and that there's a lot of strife
• 22:37
  between the Beckham's and Nicola.
• 22:39
  And we've just heard that, but you know, for years now and it's
• 22:42
  always interesting. I feel like people love some
• 22:44
  tea. And today Brooklyn Beckham came
• 22:49
  out and posted this long Instagram story with multiple
• 22:53
  pages, you guys, where he was going into detail about how
• 22:56
  Victoria and David apparently sabotage their wedding and have
• 23:01
  been terrible to Nicola. That's what he alleges in these
• 23:03
  Instagram posts. And everybody has a hot take
• 23:06
  right now about this. I I feel like it's relatable
• 23:09
  because like a lot of people deal with like different family
• 23:12
  dynamics and everything. Kim, what is your take about
• 23:14
  this whole situation? Oh my gosh, I mean, you sent
• 23:18
  this to me today. And so I read it and I was like,
• 23:20
  oh, like I I'm not in favor of like dishing out dirty laundry
• 23:27
  on social media or like the clap backs or anything.
• 23:30
  But I really do after reading this, just think that he had
• 23:33
  enough. And the Bible does call us like
• 23:35
  when we get married. It says husbands like leave your
• 23:38
  mother and father and you become one flesh with your wife under a
• 23:42
  marital covenant. And so there's a reason that
• 23:44
  this is mentioned multiple times in scripture.
• 23:48
  And so with this when I saw of every little thing in like
• 23:52
  sequential order adding up where like his mom just completely
• 23:56
  stopped working on her dress in the 11th hour to sabotaging the
• 24:00
  first dance to like making it about herself.
• 24:03
  And then all of the press and the manipulation tactics like in
• 24:07
  media in order to spin this narrative like I, I think he had
• 24:11
  just had enough. I, I truly believe that that was
• 24:13
  just like the straw that broke the camel's back.
• 24:16
  And he probably just didn't want to hear it anymore.
• 24:19
  And sometimes like maybe I don't even think that this was him
• 24:22
  putting gasoline on a fire, though.
• 24:24
  I think that it was him just putting water over it, putting
• 24:27
  it to bed of like, I don't want it is to be misconstrued any
• 24:31
  longer. This is exactly what happened.
• 24:33
  And I do think that there's two sides to every story.
• 24:35
  And there was a long time where he wasn't telling his side.
• 24:38
  And that's what led to all this speculation in the media.
• 24:42
  And so I think that this kind of put it to bed of here's what
• 24:45
  happened. And you know, you can pick your
• 24:47
  side and go from there. I don't know how I feel about
• 24:51
  this. I hate we talked about this on
• 24:52
  the last episode. I was like propaganda.
• 24:54
  I'm not falling for is posting receipts and airing out your
• 24:58
  dirty laundry and having some like huge feud online.
• 25:01
  Like I think a lot of people deal with different things in
• 25:04
  their family, but I always think like that is your family at the
• 25:07
  end of the day, that is your blood.
• 25:09
  That is all you have. It would take so much for me to
• 25:11
  ever come out against my own mother and father like publicly
• 25:15
  like that. I think you handle that behind
• 25:17
  the scenes. And you know, I'm also going to
• 25:20
  be honest, Cameron, like these kind of do seem like frivolous
• 25:23
  problems. Like, Oh my God, she was not
• 25:25
  nice during the wedding. And there was like different
• 25:27
  things, like there's people who are just working paycheck to
• 25:30
  paycheck to be able to like put food on the table for their
• 25:33
  kids. And it's kind of like these
• 25:35
  people have like never worked a day in their lives.
• 25:37
  They all come from like the both of them come, they're nepo
• 25:39
  babies that come from just like so much money.
• 25:41
  And so they can just harp on all of these frivolous issues.
• 25:45
  And I just, I don't know if I think it's right to like post in
• 25:48
  detail about your family and this fight.
• 25:50
  And I think families are so complicated.
• 25:53
  Like, I I'm not defending if Victoria and David have acted
• 25:57
  this way, I don't think you should treat, you know, your son
• 26:00
  and your daughter-in-law. And that way.
• 26:01
  I'm not defending at all of this is true.
• 26:03
  But once again, I don't know if it's true because this is just
• 26:06
  his, you know, side of the story.
• 26:08
  It's hard to ever know the truth because we weren't in the room
• 26:11
  and we weren't we haven't like viewed all this.
• 26:13
  But I think family issues are so layered like these can be.
• 26:16
  This can be like years and years and years of like different
• 26:19
  things and different attacks and different whatever from both
• 26:22
  sides. And usually both people in this
• 26:24
  party have like their own, you know, side of the story, how
• 26:27
  they were wrong tier and they were wrong there and they're
• 26:29
  right. And so I just think like family
• 26:31
  dynamics are so complicated that it just should never be
• 26:35
  something that's shared with the public.
• 26:36
  I, I just believe that like he's coming out against his own
• 26:39
  parents like that is very sad. And I don't know the issues.
• 26:43
  I'm not saying it's right to ever sabotage someones wedding.
• 26:45
  Obviously weddings are very important to people and that
• 26:48
  that's not right. Once again, we don't know fully
• 26:50
  if this is the truth. This is allegedly what he's
• 26:52
  saying, but it does feel a little frivolous.
• 26:55
  Like there's people in countries who are like dying.
• 26:58
  There's people trying to get food on the table for their
• 27:00
  kids. And it's like you're complaining
• 27:02
  about like a wedding dress coming from a billionaire
• 27:06
  heiress. Like it's kind of a a little
• 27:08
  pathetic. And I don't know.
• 27:10
  I also hate like it's like the siblings are blocking them
• 27:12
  online. Like I'm like, this is I don't
• 27:15
  know. I just find it overall, I guess
• 27:16
  like to wrap this into a little bow.
• 27:19
  It's just trashy. Yeah, I, I understand that.
• 27:24
  It's definitely, like you said, it's frivolous.
• 27:27
  It's like first world problems, right?
• 27:28
  Like there's people who are starving and in third World
• 27:32
  countries and we're fighting homelessness on the streets and
• 27:35
  there's just so many other. Things and drug addict family
• 27:38
  members or like a family member in jail, right, like there's
• 27:42
  that's why I'm saying no one's killed anyone.
• 27:44
  No one's like gotten ADUI or gone on like some huge crime
• 27:48
  spree like it's a wedding dress and a dance.
• 27:50
  You know what I mean? Yeah, but I think behind closed
• 27:54
  doors, especially since they're so public, because I don't
• 27:57
  condone this either, Jamie, let's just be very clear.
• 27:59
  I do think that this is trashy behavior, but I also have to put
• 28:03
  myself in their shoes. They are so public and they
• 28:05
  signed up for that public life. And if you had your own parents,
• 28:09
  if there's any merit or truth to that, which I don't know because
• 28:12
  there wasn't receipts of them planting stories, so who knows.
• 28:14
  But let's just say in some hypothetical scenario, there was
• 28:17
  and his own family was using manipulation tactics in order to
• 28:22
  like feed a certain media narrative to the press to, to
• 28:25
  publish against their own son, their own flesh and blood.
• 28:29
  That's where I'm like, OK, well, maybe this was warranted.
• 28:32
  Like maybe this was warranted. And I, and I think that maybe
• 28:36
  there tried to be reconciliation behind closed doors.
• 28:38
  It seems like he was blocked. He tried to spend his birthday
• 28:41
  with his dad and he wasn't allowed to.
• 28:43
  There's obviously two sides to every story.
• 28:46
  And I don't think that, you know, I just don't think they
• 28:49
  should have gone public with this at all.
• 28:51
  I don't think the parents if if it were true about them planting
• 28:54
  stories in the media, I don't think they should have done
• 28:56
  that. And he probably shouldn't have
• 28:58
  posted the story. But I think he posted the story
• 29:01
  because they were they were planting all that bad press
• 29:04
  against him and his wife. So, well, the tea is hot and
• 29:07
  piping and I'll be decently waiting for the response.
• 29:11
  But I I thought that was interesting.
• 29:13
  I feel like people can relate, like a lot of people are like
• 29:15
  the in laws, the family dynamics, it's a complicated.
• 29:18
  Body of messy, like come on, like everyone's messy.
• 29:22
  Yeah, like everyone's messy behind closed doors.
• 29:24
  Like everyone's messy. I love that.
• 29:27
  OK, headed into our next section, I have no words where
• 29:30
  we always have a lot of words for these things.
• 29:36
  All right, you guys this week for I have no words.
• 29:39
  Cameron and I have been talking about this and I feel like we
• 29:42
  actually haven't even talked about this topic that much.
• 29:44
  So I was dying to chat about this with you Cam.
• 29:49
  So a candidate for Florida governor came out and proposed a
• 29:53
  50% syntax on only fan earners. And this has to do with an only
• 30:00
  fans girl named Sophie Rain who lives in Florida.
• 30:05
  And it is great. I will say this, Cameron, it is
• 30:08
  insane to me that these only fangirls are raking in.
• 30:12
  Like I'm talking hundreds of millions of dollars by posting
• 30:16
  videos and photos of themselves naked online.
• 30:19
  Like, where is the line on this? Because, you know, I think both
• 30:22
  of us, I can speak on behalf of us.
• 30:23
  We're both free market capital, we don't like a lot of
• 30:26
  government intervention. But I'm not a libertarian at the
• 30:30
  end of the day, I'm a conservative and so I believe
• 30:32
  that our laws should create a better society and I could go on
• 30:36
  for days, which I will soon. About the degeneracy of only
• 30:39
  fans and just pornography in general and how it's just
• 30:42
  ruining people. Yeah, this, this, this is what
• 30:46
  my take is. This was a dub.
• 30:49
  This is like the most base thing I've ever seen in my life.
• 30:51
  Like a candidate, a candidate proposed and I sent this to you
• 30:55
  the other day. It was a quote.
• 30:56
  If you want to destroy a nation without war, make adultery or
• 30:59
  nudity common in the younger generation.
• 31:01
  And I think it's so true. We've seen so many mental health
• 31:05
  crises and people on SSR is because of just the anxiety.
• 31:10
  Fertility is like at an all time low during COVID probably.
• 31:14
  Like I'm sure pornography just went like through the roof.
• 31:17
  People were isolated. They weren't going out on dates.
• 31:20
  They weren't trying to see other people.
• 31:21
  And so I just think that this is a perfect way to disincentivize
• 31:27
  degenerate behavior because you don't want that normalized.
• 31:30
  Why is this normalized in society that people as soon as
• 31:33
  these younger women, these young impression women, as soon as
• 31:36
  they turn 18, that's what they're thinking of doing
• 31:39
  because of how much money is involved in this.
• 31:42
  It is absolutely insane. Then you have young
• 31:45
  impressionable men spending their money on this.
• 31:48
  And so then it's just creating this terrible society where
• 31:51
  nobody wants to get married, nobody wants to settle down and
• 31:54
  have children because everything's so accessible.
• 31:56
  You log online and you see a pair of boobs like right there
• 32:00
  and like, it's like, it's not something that you have to work
• 32:02
  for or yearn for. Like men used to have to like
• 32:05
  show up on your front porch, ask your dad, plead your case to
• 32:08
  your father of why they're able to marry you, talk about the
• 32:12
  land that they own, the lifestyle that they're able to
• 32:15
  provide for them. Women used to not aspire to this
• 32:20
  lifestyle whatsoever. They used to actually like have
• 32:23
  fathers in the home with, you know, two parent discipline and
• 32:27
  and a church structure in their life in order to give them
• 32:31
  proper guidance on on who to marry or, or how to start your
• 32:34
  life. But when you become an adult,
• 32:36
  this is insane to me. And then she also goes on in
• 32:40
  this video, not to keep yapping to you because I want to hear
• 32:42
  your take, but she goes on this video and she's like people for
• 32:46
  only fans. They're using this to provide
• 32:48
  for their family more. And it's like, and if you tax
• 32:51
  them, and that is, that's just overreach.
• 32:54
  And it's like Sophie, Sophia Rain, Sophie Rain, whatever her
• 32:58
  name is, she's the top earner on Only Fans.
• 33:01
  What do you mean? It's like you make more money
• 33:05
  than everyone like you. She makes hundreds of millions
• 33:08
  of dollars. And she's like, they're we're
• 33:09
  just trying to provide for our families.
• 33:11
  I'm like, bitch, I think that you can provide for your family.
• 33:14
  I think you're OK. I, I promise, if you were to get
• 33:17
  taxed, I think you're OK. So I don't know.
• 33:19
  I think that and we need to disincentivize this in society.
• 33:23
  He said that he would put this money towards programs where
• 33:26
  we're really in need, with making sure that we have health
• 33:28
  healthy foods in our public school systems, which Michelle
• 33:31
  Obama was supposed to do and never did.
• 33:34
  To make sure we're getting our homeless vets off the streets.
• 33:37
  Making sure that we're putting this money back into our own
• 33:40
  country and community and society to make it a better
• 33:42
  place. And I couldn't be more for it.
• 33:45
  My only issue with this is that it doesn't go far enough.
• 33:47
  I think only fans should be banned.
• 33:49
  I think all pornography should be banned.
• 33:50
  I truly think it's. We should ban porn. 100% bane of
• 33:54
  society, and I think it's hurtful for so many parties
• 33:57
  involved. First of all, let's talk about
• 34:00
  the young woman who get involved, who usually get
• 34:01
  involved with it at a young age, like 18 years old, where they
• 34:04
  start sometimes earlier, by the way, which is child porn.
• 34:07
  So we're exploiting children, but these young women get
• 34:09
  involved and this is not a normal career to get involved in
• 34:12
  where you can just go back and undo it.
• 34:14
  You're hurting so many people in the process.
• 34:16
  You're hurting yourself that you're exposing yourself in such
• 34:18
  a degenerate way. You're hurting your own family.
• 34:21
  You're hurting the people that love you.
• 34:22
  I mean, there might be cases where people support you around
• 34:25
  you, but it's not right. You shouldn't.
• 34:27
  I'm so against the commodification of the human
• 34:30
  body. It's degenerate and it's just
• 34:32
  producing filth in society. And then let's talk about the
• 34:36
  men who are involved in watching this.
• 34:38
  You look back at what porn used to be before the age of the
• 34:41
  Internet, and it used to be men that would show up and buy a
• 34:44
  magazine or maybe some videos, and it was kind of looked down
• 34:48
  upon. It was almost embarrassing to
• 34:49
  have to go and buy these things. So it was disincentivized like
• 34:52
  you just mentioned. And nowadays you can log on at
• 34:55
  any age and access any type of terribly disgusting graphic porn
• 35:00
  that I can't even begin to wrap my head around.
• 35:02
  I'm sure the same way Cameron and it's ruining men's lives.
• 35:06
  Men have addictions to it in the way that they have towards
• 35:09
  alcohol or drugs. It's ruining relationships they
• 35:12
  have. It's perverting young boys who
• 35:15
  are like we're talking before even the age of 10 who are being
• 35:17
  exposed to this. And then it's exploiting also
• 35:20
  the people involved in it where I said like there's children
• 35:23
  involved, there's sex trafficking involved.
• 35:26
  It is a filthy, disgusting industry that produces nothing
• 35:30
  of value whatsoever and it should be completely outlawed.
• 35:34
  It's ruined countless lives. I think it's as harmful as drugs
• 35:37
  to be honest in this. Country yeah, I think it should
• 35:39
  be banned. You're right.
• 35:41
  You just banned porn entirely. And not even to sound like a
• 35:44
  conspiracy theorist, but this is something our adversaries can
• 35:47
  use against us. Because if you actually see the
• 35:49
  brain scans of somebody who's like suffering from some sort of
• 35:53
  mental disease, I don't know if they put it towards like
• 35:55
  Alzheimer's or dementia or whatever.
• 35:57
  Put up the brain scans between somebody who watches porn like
• 36:01
  daily or weekly versus people with like real mental health
• 36:04
  disorders like schizophrenia and other things.
• 36:07
  It's exactly the same like the brain scan and and Fact Check me
• 36:10
  on that. But this is what our adversaries
• 36:12
  can use against us. It's weakening our men.
• 36:15
  It's making them have no self-discipline or self
• 36:17
  obedience. That's like one of the key
• 36:19
  things to do with basic training for the military is like you
• 36:22
  have to have self-control and self obedience through your I, I
• 36:26
  don't know if it's a 16 week or six week basic training before
• 36:29
  you get into the military. And it can weaken our troops
• 36:32
  mentally, physically, emotionally.
• 36:34
  It can weaken our society. It can make our dollar crumble
• 36:37
  because we're less incentivized to be a productive society
• 36:41
  because porn can, you know, you can be so addicted to porn where
• 36:44
  you don't leave your house. And.
• 36:45
  You don't have. It's just like alcoholism or
• 36:48
  having. Some addiction, Tennessee
• 36:50
  instead of building a real family and having a real
• 36:52
  relationship with another woman, so.
• 36:55
  It's just, yes, you're not procreating fertility is that.
• 36:59
  And also men become more incentivized to be successful
• 37:02
  when they have children. Like, let's be totally honest,
• 37:05
  like when you have something to live for and you have people
• 37:07
  depending on you, you don't have a choice but to get your ass up
• 37:11
  and go to work and like make sure that you are contributing
• 37:14
  to society in a healthy way. And if men are just relying on
• 37:18
  these on screen time in order to get this like false equivalency
• 37:22
  to to intimacy, it's just one. It just cheapens sex.
• 37:27
  It cheapens a relationship. It ruins relationships, like you
• 37:30
  said, but sorry, it cheapens the act.
• 37:33
  So like, they're not even putting any value in it because
• 37:36
  it's like it's so accessible online and it's just weakening
• 37:40
  society as a whole. I mean, I could go on and on
• 37:42
  about this, Jamie. I think you can hear in my tone
• 37:44
  of voice how much this actually pisses me off.
• 37:47
  But like Sophie, we also need to bring back.
• 37:49
  And honestly, Brianna, we may cut this out.
• 37:51
  Can we bring back slut shaming? You deserve to be shamed for
• 37:55
  that. You.
• 37:56
  Really do. This is not.
• 37:57
  This is not OK. We need to ban porn and we need
• 38:00
  to bring back slut shaming. That is my hot take of the day.
• 38:04
  I agree. And it's like these women are
• 38:05
  drawn to make hundreds of millions of dollars doing this.
• 38:09
  And this is where I differ from libertarians.
• 38:10
  I don't want drugs legal on the street.
• 38:12
  I'm against marijuana legalization.
• 38:14
  I don't think marijuana produces anything good in society.
• 38:17
  I don't think any drugs produce anything good in society.
• 38:20
  I think it just makes our country weaker, sicker, and more
• 38:24
  degenerate. And I feel the same way, just
• 38:27
  like I do A prostitution is not legal in most places, so why
• 38:30
  should pornography be legal? I don't think there's any
• 38:33
  benefit that that we have towards society with having
• 38:36
  widespread pornography, which is exactly what's going on.
• 38:40
  And you know, as conservatives, I believe our job is to conserve
• 38:44
  American values, is to conserve Christian values, and is to
• 38:48
  conserve our culture and society in the best way possible.
• 38:52
  I believe that it should be heavily regulated.
• 38:55
  At the very, very least, there needs to be age restrictions
• 38:59
  where you cannot be accessing this type of content until
• 39:02
  you're of the age. And the last one thing I'll say
• 39:04
  to, to touch back on what we talked about earlier, when
• 39:06
  you're talking about like, oh, there's all these people that
• 39:09
  are like furries, for example, or they're pansexual or they're
• 39:14
  like have these weird kinks. That is for pornography.
• 39:17
  I'm convinced that the reason why we have so much sexual
• 39:21
  degeneracy in our culture and we don't have normal marriages in
• 39:25
  the same way that we used to. We would have a normal family
• 39:27
  and have kids and live a nice beautiful life together.
• 39:30
  How God intended us is because people are being exposed to
• 39:33
  pornography, photography and it's causing massive issues in
• 39:36
  their life at altering their brain chemistry, perverting the
• 39:40
  mind. I really believe there's a
• 39:41
  reason why serial killers, a lot of them were porn addicts.
• 39:44
  That's how they started out. It perverts the mind in a way
• 39:47
  that we can't even begin to understand.
• 39:50
  And so I want to protect both men and women, the woman
• 39:53
  involved in this and the men that are watching by just making
• 39:56
  this legal. It's filth.
• 39:58
  Get it off our streets, get it off our computers, get it out of
• 40:02
  this country. We don't want it.
• 40:04
  Yeah, we need to stop normalizing it for sure.
• 40:07
  All right, you guys headed into our next section Q&A and we love
• 40:16
  hearing from you girls. As always, you guys ask the best
• 40:18
  questions. If you have not asked a question
• 40:20
  yet or you want to ask another one, make sure you go to
• 40:22
  sincerelyamerican.com slash ask a question.
• 40:26
  Let's get into it, Cam. OK, our first question of the
• 40:29
  day is from Charlie from Virginia.
• 40:32
  What is a fashion trend you girls are hoping makes a
• 40:34
  comeback in 2026? Well, I know this won't make a
• 40:39
  comeback, but I love the Paris Hilton Kim Kardashian era of
• 40:44
  like the Juicy Couture track suits.
• 40:47
  Like that was an era that I will forever be stuck in.
• 40:50
  Because when I tell you, I used to beg my mom, now they're in
• 40:54
  like Kohl's and everything and it's like, but it used to be
• 40:57
  like something to aspire to. Like you wanted every single
• 41:00
  color of this Juicy Couture tracksuit.
• 41:02
  And especially if it had the rhinestones on, like the butt,
• 41:05
  like that was the cutest thing ever.
• 41:07
  I don't know. I just felt like that was just
• 41:09
  such a fun era and like, it made things comfy, but like stylish.
• 41:13
  Something about it. I don't know, the aura
• 41:15
  surrounding that. I just, I miss, I miss it.
• 41:18
  This is like such a niche thing. This is like the first thing
• 41:21
  that came to my mind. I loved back in the day when
• 41:24
  those like Abercrombie tight little V-neck tops that you
• 41:27
  would wear or if like your wear jeans.
• 41:29
  Like I'm talking about Elena Gilbert Kaur from Vampire
• 41:32
  Diaries. If you guys saw like loved her
• 41:35
  style. I thought she was like so
• 41:36
  beautiful in that show. Like everybody wanted to be her.
• 41:40
  I don't know. I just like that like
• 41:41
  Abercrombie Kaur. I thought it was really cute so.
• 41:44
  Yeah, that is. Cute.
• 41:45
  I think maybe more of a thing that might actually come back.
• 41:47
  I actually like skinny jeans, like skinny jeans with some
• 41:49
  boots. So I hope skinny jeans come back
• 41:51
  in. All right, next question.
• 41:54
  Serafina from Utah says in 2026, I'm really focusing on becoming
• 41:58
  the best version of myself, which I know you girls talk
• 42:01
  about a lot on the podcast. What would you say is the season
• 42:05
  of life you're in right now? I'm a similar age to you all and
• 42:08
  I look up to you both. That is so sweet.
• 42:11
  Yeah, that is really cute. I would say the season of life
• 42:14
  that I'm in. I mean, I, I was very, very
• 42:17
  fortunate. I talk about this a lot, but I
• 42:18
  was very fortunate to like get my start in politics very young.
• 42:22
  And I was a young professional in DC by the age of 20 and I was
• 42:26
  able to graduate early. And so I did have a lot of those
• 42:30
  milestones earlier in life. So I feel like I've already
• 42:33
  experienced a lot of life. I've, I've had the jobs with
• 42:36
  being a White House correspondent, working in the
• 42:38
  White House with Jamie. And so I'm very fortunate to
• 42:41
  have done this at such a young age.
• 42:42
  And now obviously we have our show, we like going on on Fox
• 42:46
  to, to commentate on certain issues that we feel passionate
• 42:49
  about. But I would also just say in
• 42:51
  this season of life, though, I used to feel so go, go, go, go,
• 42:55
  go all the time. And I've really tried in this
• 42:58
  season to slow down a little bit more because I used to think
• 43:01
  that time was running out. And I do think there's a healthy
• 43:04
  balance to it, right? Like every single day is not
• 43:06
  promised. You need to live it to the
• 43:07
  fullest. But I also think if you're
• 43:09
  younger, it's, it's OK not to be in fight or flight all the time
• 43:12
  or, or to be bored sometimes. I feel like social media, we
• 43:15
  talked about this earlier, Jamie, where you constantly have
• 43:17
  to be stimulated with something or like going out to eat or
• 43:19
  whatever. Like, I think it's OK to be
• 43:21
  bored sometimes, be slow, get caught up with with whatever you
• 43:25
  need to do around the house. Like it's OK to say no to
• 43:28
  certain things and and prioritize yourself if you if
• 43:31
  you need to. Like everything in moderation.
• 43:33
  Of course. Obviously sometimes you have to
• 43:35
  do things you want to do to get to the places that you want to
• 43:37
  be. But I think right now I'm just
• 43:39
  like in a softer season where I am just trying to balance
• 43:43
  everything correctly, balancing things with work, balancing
• 43:46
  friendships, balancing, you know, my relationship with my
• 43:49
  husband and seeing my family. And so that's that's where where
• 43:53
  I'm at right now. I love that.
• 43:55
  I think the season of life that I'm in right now, when I first
• 43:58
  had Vivian, I kind of took a little time off and was just
• 44:00
  solely focused on being a mom. And that's still of course, my
• 44:03
  #1 focus. But I will say, I think I am in
• 44:06
  a little bit more of a go, go, go season of my life where I'm
• 44:09
  like really trying to launch everything that we're doing with
• 44:12
  the conservator and sincerely American.
• 44:14
  I'm just really passionate about a lot of these things.
• 44:16
  And Cameron, I both have had just such amazing opportunities.
• 44:19
  And so I am in that booked and busy kind of season of life,
• 44:22
  life. And I love that.
• 44:24
  I think I'm in like I say yes to almost everything.
• 44:26
  And it's definitely like the last few months, I feel like
• 44:29
  since we watched the podcast, Cameron have been just a row in
• 44:31
  because I'm just like, go, go, go to everything, traveling
• 44:34
  everywhere, trying to do everything.
• 44:36
  But I do think for me, I'm happiest doing that.
• 44:39
  And I think it's an exciting time and I just want to fully
• 44:42
  take advantage of that. But I think that there are times
• 44:45
  in your life, like I said, even a few years ago when I first had
• 44:47
  Vivi, where I was definitely just like wanting to focus fully
• 44:50
  on being a mom. And it is a lot to juggle being
• 44:52
  a mom, mom and doing everything but you can.
• 44:54
  You just have to plan accordingly and you don't get a
• 44:58
  lot of sleep. I'll say that.
• 45:01
  OK, next question, Kat from New York.
• 45:03
  Hi girls. What kind of skin care products
• 45:05
  do you use? I remember in a previous episode
• 45:08
  you talked about doing a full glam.
• 45:09
  Sometimes my skin gets so bad after wearing a lot of makeup.
• 45:12
  Any tips XOXO? Yeah, I mean, I feel like Jamie,
• 45:17
  we we deal with this like we do full faces of makeup.
• 45:21
  And I remember we had like back-to-back fox hits one
• 45:24
  weekend and we were like, our skin is destroyed after this and
• 45:28
  doing our Tik Toks and everything.
• 45:30
  And so I relate to this on such a deep level.
• 45:32
  I think it one, it depends on your age, because when you start
• 45:36
  to get a little bit older, you incorporate a little bit more.
• 45:39
  Like you start using a retinol, you start using vitamin C, but
• 45:42
  obviously like first and foremost use SPF every single
• 45:45
  day, day on your face, every single day, even if you're not
• 45:47
  out in the sun I. See you use California now.
• 45:51
  Yeah, I use that. And honestly, like this isn't a
• 45:55
  product, but like red light therapy, red light therapy, like
• 45:58
  RE, it helps like boost the skin cells and collagen production in
• 46:02
  order to like regenerate new cells to look more youthful.
• 46:06
  And so I, I've been like not using as many topical products
• 46:10
  and just making sure that I have like a healthy diet.
• 46:12
  I'm staying hydrated. This also isn't skin skin care
• 46:16
  product either. But like wash your pillows every
• 46:18
  week. You would, you would be shocked
• 46:20
  how many people don't wash their pillowcases every week and how
• 46:23
  much oil and dirt and bacteria grows on there to make your skin
• 46:27
  break out. Like if you're somebody who's
• 46:28
  prone to breakouts, you need to be mindful of like, how much
• 46:31
  water did I drink today? What am I putting into my body?
• 46:34
  Like what am I consuming? Is it a bunch of sugars and
• 46:37
  carbs or am I like feeling my body to make my skin look
• 46:40
  healthier and rejuvenated? I would honestly just say plan
• 46:44
  from the inside out. Like fix your gut and that'll in
• 46:47
  turn like fix your skin. I agree with all of that.
• 46:50
  I think there's some days where like I'll shoot the podcast or
• 46:54
  I'll shoot a fox head or I'll have some event where I have to
• 46:57
  wash off my makeup and redo it in the same exact way Because
• 47:00
  like the makeup, like everyone knows this can get like crusty
• 47:03
  after a while and it really is like it dries out my skin a lot.
• 47:07
  So if you are someone that's wearing a lot of makeup for your
• 47:09
  career for whatever reason, I would recommend investing in
• 47:12
  facials. Like I feel like a facial every
• 47:14
  like 2 months or so can like really help, you know, like get
• 47:17
  that old gross barrier often like renew your skin.
• 47:22
  And then my other huge tip is I am a huge fan of those collagen
• 47:26
  overnight masks from Medicu. Yes, I swear that's that.
• 47:30
  Just like if you, you know, I feel like sometimes when your
• 47:33
  skin's dry, I can like almost bring out like some like
• 47:34
  wrinkles or something or, or fine lines.
• 47:37
  When you wear that, it just like it literally makes your skin
• 47:39
  look like glass the next day. Like I, I'm going to something
• 47:42
  tomorrow. So I and I'm have obviously my
• 47:45
  makeup on now. So I'm going to wipe that all
• 47:47
  off and then do my mask overnight because it's just such
• 47:50
  like a perfect way to like rebuild your skin barrier and
• 47:53
  make it look amazing. And like you said, Cameron huge
• 47:55
  on moisturizer too. A lot of times actually
• 47:57
  underneath those medic cube, I will do my full skin care and
• 48:00
  then put the medicube on top. So it really like locks in my
• 48:03
  vitamin C, my retinol, my moisturizer, my oils and
• 48:07
  everything. And I feel like it makes my skin
• 48:09
  look so nice. OK, I would also say get rid of
• 48:13
  makeup remover wipes because when you're using the wipes,
• 48:16
  it's like you're pulling on your skin barrier and you're like
• 48:20
  pulling where you could get more fine lines and wrinkles.
• 48:22
  Like I would do a cleansing bomb or like a misceller.
• 48:26
  Is it misceller or misceller water in order to like really
• 48:29
  get the if you wear like mascara, like mascara off and
• 48:33
  stuff. But a cleansing bomb changed the
• 48:35
  game. You can't just use like a like a
• 48:38
  face wash in order to get your makeup off because some residue
• 48:41
  will say that yes, yes, I use that Tatcha thing.
• 48:45
  Elemis, it's a French brand. They have a really good one.
• 48:48
  Or just the Garnier micellar water is really really good.
• 48:52
  Or loctanes is good too. That's great advice.
• 48:55
  Skin care is so important. If you don't have good skin,
• 48:57
  you're not, your makeup's never going to look good.
• 48:58
  So I think it's like very important to invest in that.
• 49:01
  All right, girls getting into hot or not, our favorite section
• 49:05
  of the day. OK, Cameron, the Hermes game and
• 49:15
  is this have to do with like Cameron and I, we always just
• 49:18
  like shoot each other stop. Does this have to do with like,
• 49:21
  you know, like purchasing A Birkin, the whole thing that
• 49:24
  goes into that? Is that what you?
• 49:25
  Were thinking, yeah, it's like it yeah, like developing the
• 49:28
  really close relationship with like one particular sales
• 49:31
  associate and like making sure that you're purchasing all of
• 49:34
  the things in order to work up to like a leather appointment.
• 49:38
  And let's say like you get offered a Picatin or something.
• 49:41
  It's not like like Kelly or Birkin yet, but you have to
• 49:43
  purchase those bags for this. I'm going to go not and here's
• 49:48
  why. I just think you it's just this
• 49:50
  overconsumption. If you want a Birkin, just go on
• 49:53
  like forward or I don't think Revolve hasn't but like forward
• 49:58
  or far fetch or like wherever you can get like a brand new
• 50:00
  Birkin with tags or like a Kelly with tags.
• 50:04
  Why do you have like, I just think this is spending money on
• 50:07
  nothing like what who is playing this game And like when you die
• 50:11
  or you're not going to be remembered as somebody who had
• 50:13
  like a close relationship to your sales associate like at
• 50:16
  Hermes. So I'm just going to go not as
• 50:18
  much as I love as much as I love designer bags and I will I will
• 50:23
  spend money on designer bags and designer goods.
• 50:26
  And I and I take pride in my appearance.
• 50:28
  I am somebody who does not want to play this game.
• 50:30
  I don't want to play it. If I want a Birkin or a Kelly
• 50:33
  someday, I'm going to it's probably going to be my husband.
• 50:36
  I'm going to tell my husband, do not try to even play that game.
• 50:40
  Just go on a different thirdarty site, make sure that they have
• 50:43
  like a really great authentication process and get
• 50:46
  it there. There's no reason to urchase
• 50:48
  hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of stuff that you're
• 50:51
  probably going to resell anyways just to get this Kelly or a
• 50:54
  Virkin offer to you. Maybe.
• 50:57
  Maybe it's like slim chance, you know?
• 50:59
  I completely agree. And can I also say this, I've
• 51:02
  told you this to Cameron. I love a Birkin when you're
• 51:05
  like, I don't know, 40 and above.
• 51:07
  I think it's cheesy to have a Birkin in your 20s.
• 51:10
  Like I don't think that's a 20 year old bag.
• 51:11
  I think that's a bag for like a very older, not older because
• 51:15
  you're not old at 40, but you know what I'm saying?
• 51:17
  I'm more mature, sophisticated woman like in your 20s.
• 51:22
  There's so many like cute designer bags.
• 51:23
  I feel like you should do kind of maybe smaller bags when
• 51:26
  you're in your 20s and then go for like the bigger bags when
• 51:28
  you're older. So I don't know I.
• 51:30
  Thought I think of Kelly's cute if you're younger.
• 51:32
  I do think Kelly bag is Scooter. It's like a mini.
• 51:35
  To me it's like cheesy, like when someone has like is 25
• 51:38
  years old and they have like some massive diamond.
• 51:41
  Like I'm like, it's just, it's giving cheese ball to me.
• 51:43
  Like it's, I don't know, I don't like it.
• 51:46
  Like I, I think that's something to look forward to maybe a
• 51:48
  little bit later in life. Like I said, for a 40 year old,
• 51:50
  you guys are not old at all. I'm not saying that, but I'm
• 51:53
  talking like in your 20s. So I'm going out with that.
• 51:56
  And I agree with you. If I ever have the luxury of one
• 51:59
  day being able to buy a Birkin, I will be doing a third party
• 52:02
  site as well. Natural deodorant, I'm going to
• 52:07
  go not for this one too. I've tried it, you guys, I've
• 52:10
  tried to be aluminum free. I've tried my hardest to like
• 52:14
  get on this train and make sure I'm not giving myself lymphoma
• 52:18
  like with all these chemicals I'm spraying, but I go back to
• 52:21
  the dove spray every single time and it's so bad for you.
• 52:24
  I try not to put it on like if I take a shower at night I won't
• 52:28
  put on deodorant at night like only when I start my day after
• 52:31
  like I shower again. But I just can't get into
• 52:35
  natural deodorants. One they make me like get rashes
• 52:38
  so I know like TMI it's weird but my skin's like super
• 52:41
  sensitive to it and I just don't think they work.
• 52:44
  Like nobody that uses natural deodorant smells good in my
• 52:47
  opinion. I agree I'm I'll out myself.
• 52:50
  I used like Drake's speed stick. Yeah, sorry, I did spice or
• 52:55
  something. Yeah.
• 52:57
  I'm going not as well. I, I, I'm, I'll sacrifice the
• 53:00
  health to smell a little bit better.
• 53:02
  I'm trying not to have VO OK tan lines hot or not.
• 53:07
  Oh my gosh, I used to say not, but now I think I don't see a
• 53:12
  problem with it, especially if it's summer.
• 53:14
  Maybe it's like you're playing in the tanning bed in the
• 53:16
  winter, Which I mean, obviously we don't want to condone, but we
• 53:20
  understand there's some situations here or there with
• 53:23
  whether you're going on a trip or you have a wedding or
• 53:25
  something you want to look good at.
• 53:26
  We understand like laying maybe once or twice, but I don't know,
• 53:30
  I used to like always make sure I didn't have a tan line and
• 53:33
  like try to like plan with my swimsuits, like whether it's
• 53:35
  like a bando or whatever and like douse myself and of course
• 53:40
  like sunscreen and stuff. But now I just don't care.
• 53:42
  I, I think it can be cute sometimes like to have a tan
• 53:45
  line. So I'm going to go hot.
• 53:47
  I'm going to go not for the reason that I don't ever just
• 53:50
  tan. I just go into a spray tan
• 53:51
  booth. We all know that about the I
• 53:54
  don't ever I I'm so nervous about my skin.
• 53:56
  As you can see, I'm like naturally pretty fair and I
• 53:58
  don't want to get any skin damage.
• 54:00
  So if I'm in a pool in a bikini, I'm laying underneath the
• 54:04
  umbrella and I just got a spray tan.
• 54:06
  So there's no tan lines involved in a spray tan, even though I
• 54:09
  will admit a spray tan never looks as good as a real tan, but
• 54:12
  at least it's less damaging to the skin.
• 54:15
  Reality television. I know I.
• 54:20
  Put this down and I don't even know I would say not I would say
• 54:23
  not. I watch secret lives and Mormon
• 54:25
  wives. Like I will admit like guilty as
• 54:28
  charged. I watch that.
• 54:29
  I did think the show was stupid, however I like the cast so I
• 54:33
  wanted to watch it like I like hearing the T essentially.
• 54:38
  And that was one that I liked because they do have more like
• 54:41
  Christian conservative values. Like I think there's only like 2
• 54:43
  girls on that show that don't. So I do like supporting that.
• 54:48
  But as it As for reality television goes, I'm just gonna
• 54:53
  go. Not in general.
• 54:54
  I love the secret lies and Mormon lives.
• 54:56
  I will fully admit that I watch that swap that is swap TV.
• 55:01
  My husband's like Jamie. This is just complete slop like
• 55:05
  and can I actually do a quick side note, what I can't stand
• 55:08
  about reality TV and the secret lives and Mormon lives are also
• 55:11
  a part of this. I have a daughter and sometimes
• 55:13
  like I just want to have something in the background
• 55:15
  while I'm just like folding clothes or cooking and she's
• 55:18
  playing. But they swear so much.
• 55:21
  I can never have that show on around her.
• 55:23
  So it's like I'm like just so many of these shows are so
• 55:25
  trashy. They're cussing.
• 55:28
  I I'm just like, can we have like a little bit more like
• 55:30
  family friendly something, but never aside from the secret
• 55:34
  lives, it's the only reality TV show I watch.
• 55:36
  I've never been like a bravos or a Real Housewives fan, but props
• 55:40
  anyone into that. We've like watched like a few
• 55:42
  seasons together. Cam of like the bachelor.
• 55:44
  Like I feel like we'll watch it when Taylor is a Bachelorette,
• 55:47
  but it it has to be the perfect person for me to be into it.
• 55:50
  So I would say in general not OK whole milk.
• 55:58
  I have such like a love hate relationship with whole milk
• 56:00
  only because it can make me break out.
• 56:03
  Like if you're prone to breakouts, they tell you just
• 56:05
  like cut dairy out completely. But my husband will use it like
• 56:09
  in smoothies and stuff when I preferably like like an
• 56:12
  alternative milk. And I know everybody's coming
• 56:15
  out and they're saying like all these alternative milks are so
• 56:17
  bad for you. Like I understand that OK but I
• 56:20
  genuinely for somebody who doesn't want to use water in a
• 56:22
  smoothie, I will use like almond milk or oat milk but for I'm
• 56:27
  going to go hot because I know it's better for you but like my
• 56:32
  skin just can't tolerate it if that makes sense.
• 56:34
  I'm really lucky I've never been someone that gets like breakouts
• 56:37
  because of dairy and I feel like we always have whole milk in the
• 56:40
  fridge because of Vivian who's three years old and like I will,
• 56:44
  she's kind of off milk now, but when she was younger going off
• 56:47
  of formula, she did a lot of whole milk.
• 56:49
  And so to this day I still buy it.
• 56:51
  I'm so against these nut milks like I, you won't see me
• 56:53
  drinking almond milk anymore or oat milk and so many of them
• 56:56
  have seed oils and everything. I just believe in, you know,
• 57:00
  having like a pasture raised grass fed whole milk.
• 57:03
  And so I'm hugely in favor of it.
• 57:06
  Am I drinking a glass on its own?
• 57:08
  No, but I'll incorporate it into my coffee.
• 57:11
  I'll give it to Vivian and Cameron for smoothies.
• 57:14
  You should do coconut water if you don't want to do any milks.
• 57:17
  Yeah, I but you can also, I've seen videos, this is this is so
• 57:21
  camcorder like I'll dabble in like making my own butter and
• 57:24
  stuff. I did that recently.
• 57:26
  But I've seen videos of people making their own almond milk and
• 57:29
  they just use almonds and water and then they strain it and then
• 57:33
  it's like a natural almond milk I have.
• 57:35
  So I don't think that that's bad for you.
• 57:38
  It's not bad for you unless you're getting the ones that,
• 57:40
  like I said, have like all the seed.
• 57:42
  Oil, yeah, have all those chemicals in it, Yeah.
• 57:44
  And it's like, this isn't even milk.
• 57:46
  This is just like poisoning me so.
• 57:48
  It's like, it's like a nut juice.
• 57:49
  Like I don't. Know, yeah.
• 57:52
  Like it's like nut extract. Like as someone who drank, a lot
• 57:56
  of that was huge, like growing up in California.
• 57:58
  But I don't know, I just like rather I don't get breakups.
• 58:01
  Like these be Oh my gosh, here in California, What I can't
• 58:04
  stand is like you'll go to this like some random coffee joint,
• 58:08
  right? And then this person will be
• 58:09
  like, I want vegan coffee grinds and I want this alternative milk
• 58:16
  with my, with my agave. Don't you dare put like stevia
• 58:20
  in there. And they're like everything
• 58:21
  natural. And I'm like, you're the same
• 58:23
  person who like, go get an abortion next week.
• 58:25
  Like you're like I'm. So.
• 58:28
  I'm like, you're asking for all this natural stuff.
• 58:30
  I'm like, there's like nothing natural about like like what
• 58:34
  you're doing on the weekends that like, let's be so real.
• 58:36
  Like, especially if you're from, like, you know this because
• 58:40
  you're from California or like, if you live here, it's just this
• 58:43
  culture of like, you're always like, do you have any dietary
• 58:46
  restrictions? Like, do you?
• 58:48
  And then they're like, yeah, I'm vegan, gluten free.
• 58:50
  I like naming everything off the list.
• 58:53
  And I'm just like, Oh my gosh, this is insane.
• 58:56
  Especially if you haven't gotten like, a natural food sensitivity
• 58:59
  test. I'm like, don't even start with
• 59:01
  that. Can you just eat a steak and
• 59:03
  shut up? I used to be because I grew up
• 59:05
  in California. I used to be vegetarian.
• 59:07
  That is a story for another time.
• 59:08
  I'll probably go into detail about that and like one of our
• 59:10
  episodes in the future. I am not anymore.
• 59:12
  I love a good steak but that is so normalized in California.
• 59:15
  I completely agree. OK, last one mouth taping.
• 59:20
  Oh my gosh, I haven't done this forever, but I'm going to go hot
• 59:23
  because I this is so gross. I sleep with my mouth.
• 59:26
  I do. And Jamie, I know you do too
• 59:28
  because we have shared rooms together where we're both
• 59:31
  sleeping with our mouth like wide open.
• 59:33
  And if you're a mouth breather at night, it can actually, like,
• 59:37
  change your jawline, like in the future, it can make it become
• 59:42
  yes, yes. Or something where it's like
• 59:44
  pointed like this instead of going out.
• 59:47
  Yeah. And I never.
• 59:49
  That's like my biggest fear. I never want to develop that.
• 59:52
  And so will I say I do this every night?
• 59:54
  No, I will never lie to like, our sincerely sisters.
• 59:57
  But I think it's hot and I think I should so.
• 1:00:00
  I walked on Cameron in the air mattress in Vivian's room with
• 1:00:04
  her mouth tape on a face mask, a bonnet in her hair and, like, an
• 1:00:08
  eye mask. And it was like 17 layers of
• 1:00:10
  something. And I had to, like, ask her a
• 1:00:12
  question. She had to, like, remove each
• 1:00:14
  layer to, like, talk to me. I was like, remember that?
• 1:00:20
  The it's the bonnet. For me it's the bonnet.
• 1:00:23
  It's like what we do to like look good.
• 1:00:25
  I wish I could mouth tape because everything you've said
• 1:00:28
  is correct. Anytime I have mouth tape, like
• 1:00:30
  I have a big mouth, I am like a mouth breather, I guess.
• 1:00:34
  It's like I can't do it. Feels like I'm like dying.
• 1:00:39
  No, I know it actually. Like sometimes I would wake up
• 1:00:42
  in the middle of the night, like not being able to breathe.
• 1:00:44
  I'm like, oh, it's because my body is trying to go back to
• 1:00:46
  like mouth breathing. But now they have ones where
• 1:00:48
  there's a little tiny hole I see where you can like, breathe
• 1:00:51
  through it anyway. I don't know, at this stage of
• 1:00:53
  life I'm just trying my hardest to be able to fall asleep at
• 1:00:55
  night so I don't need any like barriers making for habitat to
• 1:01:01
  do so like. You're not bound to those
• 1:01:04
  hurdles. Yeah.
• 1:01:05
  Oh. My God, I show you guys last
• 1:01:07
  section of the day propaganda that we're not falling for.
• 1:01:14
  Karen, what's yours this week? OK, propaganda that I'm not
• 1:01:18
  falling for this is so funny because we were just talking
• 1:01:20
  about this is euphemizing sex work.
• 1:01:23
  I hate when people do this where they're like they call the only
• 1:01:26
  fans girls bops or they call like prostitutes midnight
• 1:01:30
  ballerinas now and I'm like, stop trying to normalize it.
• 1:01:35
  Oh, I've seen it's everywhere and I'm like Bob's midnight
• 1:01:38
  ballerina. Just say you're a prostitute.
• 1:01:41
  Say you're in sex work. I'm so sick of like them trying
• 1:01:44
  to normalize this or even kind of romanticizing it with like
• 1:01:47
  these different terms and euthanizing it.
• 1:01:49
  I am not falling for this propaganda.
• 1:01:51
  I'm going to call you an only fan tour or a prostitute that's
• 1:01:56
  like I. See, that's like, get ready with
• 1:01:58
  me to be a mattress actress. I'm like a mattress.
• 1:02:02
  Actress. Yes, that one too.
• 1:02:03
  Yeah, that one too. No I am fully with you on that.
• 1:02:07
  Okay mines also serious what I'm doing.
• 1:02:09
  I'm like always looking for something to rant about.
• 1:02:12
  I propaganda. I am not falling for is toxic
• 1:02:17
  empathy and I feel like the progressive movement has just
• 1:02:20
  weaponized empathy with women because I feel like women
• 1:02:23
  naturally you don't want to take care of things as our biological
• 1:02:27
  instinct to have empathy for other people.
• 1:02:29
  But it's been directed completely in the wrong
• 1:02:31
  direction. And I think this is largely
• 1:02:33
  because people are not having kids anymore.
• 1:02:35
  And so like for me, I don't know as a mom, like my most of my
• 1:02:38
  empathy is going towards my child and focused on that.
• 1:02:40
  But a lot of these childless women in this day and age,
• 1:02:43
  instead of putting that towards kids, they are putting that
• 1:02:46
  towards illegal migrants and criminals.
• 1:02:50
  And I just, this is my biggest pet peeve about the progressive
• 1:02:53
  movement. I do not understand why we are
• 1:02:56
  prioritizing illegal migrants who are many times are dangerous
• 1:03:00
  violent criminals who have targeted Americans and criminals
• 1:03:04
  just in general, whether they're American citizens or not.
• 1:03:07
  When you see with this like soft on crime policies that they're
• 1:03:09
  voting for this criminal justice reform.
• 1:03:12
  Talk about a euphemism where they're letting violent felons,
• 1:03:15
  they have more empathy for violent felons, where they're
• 1:03:18
  like, Oh my gosh, well, all these terrible things and
• 1:03:20
  circumstances happen in their lives.
• 1:03:21
  That's why they're committing these heinous crimes.
• 1:03:23
  OK, I'm sorry. I don't really care because what
• 1:03:26
  I care about are the victims of these crimes.
• 1:03:29
  I care about the woman, the children that have been
• 1:03:33
  irreparably damaged because of these criminals.
• 1:03:36
  So I'm the opposite of criminal justice reform.
• 1:03:38
  I want more people incarcerated. I want more people in prison.
• 1:03:41
  I want to put violent felons away.
• 1:03:43
  And when it comes to illegal migrants, I thought there were.
• 1:03:46
  This was the best video. This happened in Minneapolis.
• 1:03:48
  We'll play it. We're here to.
• 1:03:52
  Arrest a child sex offender and you guys are out here honking?
• 1:03:58
  No, we're pressing that vehicle right there is honking and
• 1:04:03
  impeding our investigations while we're trying to arrest a
• 1:04:06
  child sex offender. That's who you guys are
• 1:04:09
  protecting. So basically this guy's like,
• 1:04:14
  why are these white women out here protesting me when I'm
• 1:04:18
  trying to literally arrest a sex criminal who preyed upon a child
• 1:04:22
  and you're out here protesting and you're not allowing me to
• 1:04:25
  make this arrest and deport this terrible person back to their
• 1:04:28
  home country. I just don't understand for the
• 1:04:30
  life of me like why we have empathy towards like frankly
• 1:04:35
  some of the worst members of our society.
• 1:04:37
  Instead, my empty goes towards my fellow Americans who are law
• 1:04:40
  abiding, taxpaying citizens and who I want to do everything I
• 1:04:43
  can to protect so our children grow up in a safer country so my
• 1:04:47
  kids can walk around the neighborhood and not have to
• 1:04:49
  worry. And that means having to be
• 1:04:51
  tough on crime. And it has.
• 1:04:52
  And it means also being tough on immigration because, you know, I
• 1:04:55
  understand why a lot of these people from other countries want
• 1:04:57
  to come to America. I completely understand.
• 1:04:59
  I have empathy. I don't miss wish them any ill
• 1:05:01
  will. However, we have homeless
• 1:05:04
  veterans on the street. We have people living in
• 1:05:06
  poverty. We have terrible education
• 1:05:08
  systems in our inner cities. So I want all of our money and
• 1:05:11
  resources is dedicated towards my American fellow citizens, not
• 1:05:16
  random people from around the world.
• 1:05:18
  I don't wish them ill will. And a lot of times we've seen
• 1:05:21
  because Joe Biden just open up the border and let anyone into
• 1:05:23
  this country, a lot of them have done terrible crimes and are
• 1:05:26
  ripping the taxpayer off or going after our own children.
• 1:05:30
  And I'm like I can't take that risk.
• 1:05:31
  My empathy goes towards my own American.
• 1:05:34
  So Long story short, that is my rant.
• 1:05:36
  I just can't stand how progressive women always are
• 1:05:39
  prioritizing criminals and migrants and illegal criminal
• 1:05:44
  felon migrants over our own citizens.
• 1:05:47
  My empathy is towards my family and my fellow, my neighborhood
• 1:05:50
  and my fellow citizens first. Well, and I think that their
• 1:05:54
  empathy is conditional, right? Like, where was this empathy for
• 1:05:57
  Charlie Kirk when he was brutally assassinated?
• 1:06:00
  Or yes, or, or Rachel Goode or any of these, or sorry, Rachel
• 1:06:05
  Moran. Who else was the other one?
• 1:06:09
  Yes, I mean, there's been, there's been hundreds of people
• 1:06:12
  who have been victims of. There's so many people and also
• 1:06:17
  it's just like you can't have conditional empathy either.
• 1:06:20
  And it's like the you want to say it's a clump of cells as
• 1:06:23
  well as what they'll say too. And it's like imagine saying
• 1:06:26
  that to like somebody who just grieved A miscarriage.
• 1:06:29
  Like these people just they don't apply this empathy
• 1:06:32
  everywhere in their life. It's like conditional or like 1
• 1:06:35
  sided when it fits the narrative and then on the other side
• 1:06:38
  they'll completely abandon it in order to push forward with their
• 1:06:41
  agenda. This woman who was killed,
• 1:06:43
  Rachel Good, is who I was or sorry, Renee Good.
• 1:06:46
  My gosh, I keep getting these names mixed up.
• 1:06:48
  That's so Cameron chorus. I always get names mixed up.
• 1:06:51
  Renee Goode who was killed. She was also trying to run
• 1:06:55
  someone over with her vehicle and she was a part of anti ICE
• 1:06:59
  watch groups who were known for blocking the streak and striking
• 1:07:02
  these officers. Yet you don't.
• 1:07:05
  These people who have empathy for her never had empathy for
• 1:07:08
  Charlie when he was just trying to have a peaceful debate on a
• 1:07:13
  college campus. They celebrate.
• 1:07:14
  That is what pisses me off. The people who were protesting
• 1:07:18
  Rachel, yes, a father of two celebrating a murder, yes, of a
• 1:07:21
  father of two. And you and I can even both
• 1:07:24
  acknowledge, I mean, we think it's pretty tragic with Renee,
• 1:07:26
  good because she has three children.
• 1:07:28
  I'm not celebrating. Make it right.
• 1:07:30
  All I wish. But we don't celebrate her death
• 1:07:32
  exactly. That is the difference though,
• 1:07:34
  is that these people, it's conditional with them.
• 1:07:36
  Can I also say this too to set the record straight when all of
• 1:07:39
  these so these leftists right now, mainly women are protesting
• 1:07:43
  like the ICE rates. We wouldn't need ICE raids if
• 1:07:46
  DHS has offered to pay for all the flights for illegal
• 1:07:50
  migrants. Hi, if you were an illegal
• 1:07:52
  migrant in this country and you're living here illegally, we
• 1:07:55
  will pay for your flight to go back to your home country.
• 1:07:57
  So there's no excuse to stay. You were just going against our
• 1:08:00
  laws whether or not you're committing more crimes, which a
• 1:08:03
  lot of these people have that we've seen that some of these
• 1:08:05
  people have the most heinous criminal rap sheets I've ever
• 1:08:07
  seen in my entire life. But there's no excuse.
• 1:08:09
  So and then on top of it too, in red states, we're not having the
• 1:08:13
  same issues because these Republican governors are working
• 1:08:15
  with DHS, working with our federal government to be able to
• 1:08:19
  point out, OK, these people here are illegal.
• 1:08:21
  And so they're able to go and remove those people from the
• 1:08:24
  country versus Democratic governors have made this process
• 1:08:26
  incredibly difficult. That's now called for ICE raids.
• 1:08:29
  So there's just absolutely no excuse for this.
• 1:08:31
  And I'll say this as well as someone who like loves a good
• 1:08:34
  crime TV show like Breaking Bad or Ozark, I can't imagine, like,
• 1:08:38
  I know these are like fictional shows, but these are, you know,
• 1:08:41
  based on like real cartels that operate that kill millions of
• 1:08:44
  people, not only with their drugs, but also kill like, you
• 1:08:47
  know, people in Mexico and the cartel members are very violent
• 1:08:50
  groups that obviously like civilians get killed because of
• 1:08:53
  these groups. Why would you ever want an open
• 1:08:55
  border to allow people like that into our country?
• 1:08:57
  Like I just can't wrap my head around it.
• 1:08:59
  Like, can we put our empathy towards people who are our own
• 1:09:02
  citizens, good law abiding people?
• 1:09:04
  Like, I'm just, I'm sick of the toxic empathy.
• 1:09:06
  I'm calling it out now. I, I, I just, it's so
• 1:09:09
  performative to it's just like to have their protest sign and
• 1:09:12
  get their Instagram photo. It's just performative.
• 1:09:17
  OK, Cameron, what propaganda are you falling for?
• 1:09:19
  So the propaganda that I'm falling for is joie de vivre
• 1:09:22
  maxing. It's it's a French term for the
• 1:09:24
  joy of living. And we get so caught up in our
• 1:09:26
  day-to-day routines where, you know, it's focused on what I
• 1:09:30
  need to do that day or what this.
• 1:09:31
  And to have time to slow down and just appreciate what you
• 1:09:34
  have and like the life that you were given and the the
• 1:09:37
  privileges and the blessings that God has given you in your
• 1:09:40
  life. It's just it's so important to
• 1:09:43
  chemically rebalance your mind set that way.
• 1:09:45
  I just think so many people get caught up in their daily
• 1:09:47
  routines and they don't have time or don't even deem it
• 1:09:51
  necessary to sit back and like be present in their life and
• 1:09:55
  reflect on like all the joys and just the genuine happiness and
• 1:10:01
  with the people that are in it, with the jobs that we have with
• 1:10:04
  the home over like the roof over our head.
• 1:10:06
  These are all things that give me so much joy that we should be
• 1:10:10
  joie de vivre maxing. I love that I I live that way
• 1:10:14
  too. So I'm that is definitely
• 1:10:15
  propaganda. I'm falling for mine is kind of
• 1:10:18
  like, I guess like you can say it like is it easy transition?
• 1:10:20
  Because mine is, I love right now like the 2016 throwback
• 1:10:25
  corps where people are like 2026 is the new 2016.
• 1:10:29
  And I this is coming from someone who's a freshman in
• 1:10:32
  college as you were as well, Cameron, because that's a whole
• 1:10:34
  other story. But Cameron like literally was
• 1:10:36
  such a stud that like when she went to college early, but I was
• 1:10:39
  a freshman in college. I was out there at Cal living my
• 1:10:43
  best life on Cal game football days at the fraternities,
• 1:10:47
  listening to like Black Beatles and Baby Pull Me closer from the
• 1:10:51
  backseat of the right that the whole What was that band called
• 1:10:54
  again? I'm trying to remember.
• 1:10:56
  Not Coldplay. What was that?
• 1:10:58
  Oh. My God, what now?
• 1:10:59
  We need to look it up quickly. I don't know.
• 1:11:01
  I think of three strikes with Kylie Jenner and her Kylie
• 1:11:05
  Jenner lip kits, and then the fact that, like, Haley Bieber
• 1:11:08
  dyed her hair pink. I think I had like a blue streak
• 1:11:10
  in my hair that year before I tried out for Louisville and I
• 1:11:13
  had to dye back blonde. The Chainsmokers.
• 1:11:15
  Oh my God. Chainsmokers.
• 1:11:17
  Yes. No, literally I am obsessed with
• 1:11:20
  that era. I just think it was a fun era
• 1:11:23
  where it was like when social media this someone explained
• 1:11:26
  this on TikTok and I was like, that is so true where social
• 1:11:29
  media was a thing because I've always loved social media.
• 1:11:31
  I think social media is really fun, but it wasn't like the
• 1:11:32
  center of our lives that people weren't like doom scrolling like
• 1:11:35
  they are today. So it was like fun and I just
• 1:11:37
  loved like California I feel like was at its peak in 2016,
• 1:11:41
  like California core. It was like the matcha, the Asai
• 1:11:44
  bowl, like taking like with the filtered beach photos, like I
• 1:11:47
  was like living my best life taking those photos.
• 1:11:50
  And then also this is like another thing I thought of.
• 1:11:53
  I feel like now we're finally at the age like, you know, when
• 1:11:55
  parents be like, you don't even understand what the 80s was
• 1:11:57
  like. Like now we get to be like,
• 1:11:59
  that's like the one fun thing about getting older.
• 1:12:01
  Like the kids don't even understand what 2016 was like at
• 1:12:04
  its era, like at its peak, like people, I don't know, it was a
• 1:12:07
  fun year. Trump was elected, people went
• 1:12:09
  crazy. It just it was a good time.
• 1:12:11
  I just like 2016 core. The fashion was fun.
• 1:12:13
  Like the choker is about my Co founder.
• 1:12:16
  We were we started being friends like 14 years ago in high
• 1:12:18
  school. So we're looking back at photos
• 1:12:19
  of us and we're like, we thought we looked so good.
• 1:12:22
  We did not like the confidence we had in some of these photos.
• 1:12:25
  I have no words. And the last thing I'll say too,
• 1:12:28
  this was like a really fun. This actually like inspired me
• 1:12:30
  to like start the conservator work because I loved like
• 1:12:32
  fashion blogging. If you guys remember, like
• 1:12:34
  fashion guitars, sincerely jewels, like where you would go
• 1:12:38
  out and like take a bunch of photos in like your stupid
• 1:12:40
  outfit and then like post it on your blog.
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  Like I just love that era of like the blogging and all of
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  those things I like, God bless my father.
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  I was like, I'm going to be a travel Blogger.
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  Can you like pay for me to travel places and stuff?
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  My dad like he just like loved me and always has supported me.
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  But I'm like, God bless him. Like here I was like showing up
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  to like Cabo, Mexico or something on like a fun trip and
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  I did. Here are my recommendations for
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  where to go and call. Like why was I ever giving
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  anyone recommendations when I've been there like one time?
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  But anyway, that was like my dream to be a travel Blogger in
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  2016. That was just like peak life.
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  But yeah, you had like a Lexus Wren.
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  Yeah. Blogs.
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  Yes. Yes.
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  It was a fun time. This is such a fun episode.
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  We always appreciate you guys tuning in.
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  So we have a really fun episode. Next in store, I am going to the
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  White House and I'm going to interview some of the top
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  officials and cabinet members. It's going to be really
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  exciting. So we're going to have a special
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  next week instead of our usual episode and we'll be asking a
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  lot of topics that have to do with what you guys are
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  interested in, some girly pop topics, and it'll be really fun.
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  So I'm really excited. So make sure you tune in next
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  Wednesday as well and we'll see you next week.
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  Bye,