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The Late Deabte | 28 August · The Late Debate

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Speaker 1: Lately.
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Speaker 2: General, welcome the Late Debate.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us on the Late Debate.
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Speaker 3: I'm James Macpherson with Freilich and Caleb Bond coming up tonight.
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Speaker 3: The trans gunman who shocked children dead as they prayed
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Speaker 3: in church had left wing talking points written all over
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Speaker 3: his guns, but his motive is of course a complete
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Speaker 3: mystery to many in the US media. Uber launches a
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Speaker 3: new service to ferry thirteen year old kids around town
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Speaker 3: without their parents.
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Speaker 1: Would you trust Uber with your child?
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Speaker 3: And are people working from home because they hate open
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Speaker 3: plan officers? If we gave people back their own private
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Speaker 3: office space, might that tempt them back to work.
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Speaker 1: We'll get to all of that shortly, but first.
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Speaker 3: An Islamic cleric who is building a multimillion dollar enclave
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Speaker 3: north of Melbourne has delivered an extraordinary sermon to Muslims
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Speaker 3: across the country. He's warned them that they're not devout
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Speaker 3: enough and that if Islamic law was to be implemented
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Speaker 3: in Australia, well a third of them would be put
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Speaker 3: to death. Some of his sermon that was posted to
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Speaker 3: his organization's website, an organization that I should point out
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Speaker 3: enjoys tax free charitable status.
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Speaker 1: If we're to establish Kileth in this country, half of
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Speaker 1: the Muslim would be walking with.
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Speaker 2: One hand chopped off and the third will be stained
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Speaker 2: to death.
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Speaker 3: The implication was not that Islamic law was too tough,
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Speaker 3: but that Australian Muslims were far too moderate.
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Speaker 1: And he said that Muslims should want.
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Speaker 3: A worldwide caliphate, but that it would need to begin
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Speaker 3: in the Middle East because well, Australian Muslims weren't ready
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Speaker 3: for it. This is a man who's called Zionists blood
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Speaker 3: sucking humans and told men they could beat their wives
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Speaker 3: if they were disobedient, which begs the question, is his
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Speaker 3: massive development north of Melbourne just part of the wonderful
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Speaker 3: tapestry of multiculturalism or something more?
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Speaker 1: Sinister Caleb are going to.
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Speaker 2: Say, I think he does great comedy. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 2: standing there saying, you know, they'll be walking around without
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Speaker 2: their hands, and then he just sort of smile miles
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Speaker 2: and nods along it, and there was a cheery sermon
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Speaker 2: and he was giving I mean, for goodness sake. I
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Speaker 2: know we talked about this back in June when it
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Speaker 2: first hit the media that he was raising money for
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Speaker 2: this thing, and he wants more than three million dollars.
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Speaker 2: He reckons he's raised half of it already, wants to
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Speaker 2: build it in Michelam in Melbourne, and it would have schools,
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Speaker 2: aged care facilities, sporting grounds like it's meant to be
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Speaker 2: a one stop shop essentially, and shopping is the only
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Speaker 2: thing that you would basically need to do to leave
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Speaker 2: this joint, to go and do outside of this compound
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Speaker 2: housing the whole kitten kerboodle. Because of course, the idea
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Speaker 2: is what he wants to achieve eventually, is that you
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Speaker 2: don't have to deal with the rest of society. You
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Speaker 2: can essentially have your own little micronation within Victoria, a
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Speaker 2: little Islamic micronation that operates under its own rules. And
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Speaker 2: it's all good and well when they're doing that within
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Speaker 2: the confines of their walls. But it starts with that,
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Speaker 2: and then it becomes another one, and then it comes
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Speaker 2: another one, and then you end up in a situation
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Speaker 2: like they have in the UK now where they have
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Speaker 2: these Sharia councils, which are essentially quasi courts giving out
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Speaker 2: rulings on Sharia law that people in the Muslim community
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Speaker 2: take seriously. You have these people pretending to be judges,
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Speaker 2: giving it all sorts of judgments about family issues and punishments,
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Speaker 2: all this sort of stuff. That's what we're headed towards,
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Speaker 2: and that's what this fella presumably wants. But I have
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Speaker 2: to say he says that it's not possible in Australia
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Speaker 2: and that you have to go overseas in order to
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Speaker 2: do it. Be my guest, just pack up and leave,
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Speaker 2: go and do it.
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Speaker 4: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, No one's stopping you from leaving and going back
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Speaker 5: to Lebanon or Syria or wherever you're originally from.
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Speaker 4: In fact, we would all probably be rather grateful. I suspect.
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Speaker 5: But his group also received three hundred and ninety three
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Speaker 5: thousand dollars from the Victorian state government to establish a
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Speaker 5: women's center. But this cleric as far back as two
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Speaker 5: thousand and three said he doesn't believe in rape in marriage,
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Speaker 5: and he also gave a sermon instructing his congregation on
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Speaker 5: how to properly beat your wives.
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Speaker 4: It's okay to beat your wives as long as you
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Speaker 4: don't bruise them or cause them to bleed.
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Speaker 5: This is the same group that now is being given
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Speaker 5: funding for a women's well being center by the Victorian government.
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Speaker 4: It's absurd.
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Speaker 5: I don't know how they have tax deductible status, let
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Speaker 5: alone are they receiving three hundred thousand dollars worth of
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Speaker 5: government grants. And then to think about what will go
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Speaker 5: on in this compound. If this is the kind of
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Speaker 5: stuff that they're posting publicly, imagine what's going on behind
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Speaker 5: closed doors. This will be a breeding ground for many
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Speaker 5: things that are probably contrary to our Australian value.
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Speaker 3: And time doesn't permit us to list all of the
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Speaker 3: incendiary comments that he has made on the record, not
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Speaker 3: least of which that he doesn't believe in the state
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Speaker 3: of Israelbia is israel I believe were his words. And
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Speaker 3: he also told Muslims that they're not obliged to follow
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Speaker 3: the values of this country. They should just follow their
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Speaker 3: own values. And here's the problem, right, So he's proposing what,
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Speaker 3: for all purposes, looks like a community center. That's the proposition,
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Speaker 3: but the retric seems to suggest it's going to be
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Speaker 3: something else entirely, which then makes you wonder, as has
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Speaker 3: been said, why does he enjoy tax free charitable status
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Speaker 3: with that kind of rehetoric. Could you imagine anyone else
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Speaker 3: saying those sorts of things and getting government funding.
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Speaker 2: Well, indeed, and why does he persist living in Australia.
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Speaker 2: That is the real question, because if he is saying
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Speaker 2: he wants a caliphate, but you can't do it in Australia,
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Speaker 2: You're not going to get your Sharia law here, So
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Speaker 2: if you want to live under that, you've got to
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Speaker 2: go somewhere else. Why does he continue to live here,
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Speaker 2: Why does he want to build his compound, and why
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Speaker 2: does he continue to have a congregation here? Well, the
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Speaker 2: answer clearly is that right now you have to go
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Speaker 2: overseas if you want your caliphate, but he would like
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Speaker 2: to do it here. He persists in Australia because he
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Speaker 2: would like to see a situation where he could make
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Speaker 2: it happen. And that's what we really should be worried about.
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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if this thing ever gets approved,
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Speaker 2: he's trying to raise the money for it. But if
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Speaker 2: it gets development approval, I mean, we have rocks in
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Speaker 2: our heads. How and why can we allow this stuff
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Speaker 2: to go on under our noses, against our own country
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Speaker 2: and our own values.
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Speaker 3: It's time you He had just sent to Ellen going
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Speaker 3: about extreme asm, Well, I know that's right, stayed in Victoria.
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Speaker 3: What she said about this particular gentleman and his plans
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Speaker 3: and is all the comment nothing exactly.
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Speaker 2: While we're talking about Victoria, we often talk about bad
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Speaker 2: council stories on this program, that the stupid things that
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Speaker 2: councils do all the time. Stupid is an operative word
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Speaker 2: to which I will come back in just a moment,
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Speaker 2: But we often say when we're talking about these stories,
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Speaker 2: you know, just get back to basics, get back to
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Speaker 2: roads rates and rubbish. Well, let's check check in sorry
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Speaker 2: with you a council. We're one of their counselors. Sarah
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Speaker 2: McKenzie has a rather different idea of what getting back
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Speaker 2: to basics looks like.
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Speaker 6: I guess I would say to councils who are removing
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Speaker 6: references to climate emergency his or saying things like it
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Speaker 6: wouldn't be fiscally responsible, or focusing on getting back to
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Speaker 6: the basics, This is the basics. Stop doing that. You
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Speaker 6: are being stupid.
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Speaker 2: Yes, you are being stupid if you don't believe that
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Speaker 2: it's roads rates, rubbish and climate change. She's really upset
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Speaker 2: because she tried to amend their long term financial plan,
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Speaker 2: the council's long term financial plan to include all this
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Speaker 2: language about a climate emergency, so that they would then
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Speaker 2: have to consider that in all decisions they make going
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Speaker 2: forward in the council. Knock that back. She's really upset
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Speaker 2: about this for Mayor Stephen Jolly, she's the deputy mayor
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Speaker 2: by the way. The Mayor Steve and Jolly replied to
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Speaker 2: all of this and said that it was weak, verbose
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Speaker 2: and not having a single fact and I think we
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Speaker 2: can all agree on that point. But she goes on
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Speaker 2: in this two minute rambling rant that she put on
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Speaker 2: Facebook to talk about how you know, we're at the
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Speaker 2: call facing Council seeing the effects of climate change every day.
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Speaker 2: We're seeing what it's doing to the environment and the
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Speaker 2: parks and all this sort of nonsense. I mean, look,
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Speaker 2: if you're that concerned, how don't you get out of
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Speaker 2: council and go and deal with something, do a job
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Speaker 2: or whatever that has something to do with climate change.
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Speaker 2: You're not there to worry about climate change for goodness sake.
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Speaker 2: She is using up. Jolly points it out, she's probably
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Speaker 2: using it as a springboard to get into a state
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Speaker 2: or federal politics. Curry favor with the Greens that have
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Speaker 2: so much power in the Yarrah council. But I mean,
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Speaker 2: if that's what she thinks, getting back to basics, looks
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Speaker 2: like God help us. All.
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Speaker 3: Well, you say she wants to fight climate change, you
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Speaker 3: should get out of council and go and do something.
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Speaker 3: But I think the reason she's in council is to
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Speaker 3: leverage the resources and funding that council has to pursue
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Speaker 3: her pet projects.
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Speaker 2: In this instance, he is not helping the matter of
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Speaker 2: climate change. I should know.
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean they've done nothing to change the climate.
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Speaker 3: They've done a lot to change the streets of Melbourne.
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Speaker 3: If you've ever driven in Melbourne City, there's one point
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Speaker 3: five million dollars worth of a a council funded bike
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Speaker 3: lanes that make it almost impossible to.
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Speaker 1: Navigate the roads.
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Speaker 3: But I mean, this is a council that's got policies
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Speaker 3: like climate safe rooms, where they have ten thousand dollars
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Speaker 3: grants for people.
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Speaker 1: To create a climate safe room in their home.
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Speaker 3: Not too warm, not too cold. They produced a board
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Speaker 3: game and they actually train facilitators to teach others to
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Speaker 3: play this board game that teaches you climate resilience.
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Speaker 1: And this is a council that.
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Speaker 3: Gave advice to ratepayers on you talk about rubbish rates
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Speaker 3: and roads. They gave advice on what ratepayers should eat
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Speaker 3: in terms of their diet to help the climates. So
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Speaker 3: these guys are right out there and she wants more.
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Speaker 4: And not only does she want more.
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Speaker 5: If you don't think the climate crisis is a basic
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Speaker 5: function of local government, you're stupid. The contempt that these
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Speaker 5: inner city lefties have for just ordinary people that want
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Speaker 5: to get on their lives, get on with.
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Speaker 4: Their life, is so infuriating.
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Speaker 5: But also, if you think about it, Australia is what
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Speaker 5: one percent of global emissions? Yarra City Council is probably
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Speaker 5: zero point zero one percent of global emissions.
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Speaker 2: I've probably a bit more than that. There's lots of
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Speaker 2: range rovers and land cruises getting around in the year
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Speaker 2: a council.
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Speaker 5: Gas guzzling SUVs. I mean, seriously, what are they actually
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Speaker 5: going to achieve beyond just virtue signaling and making everyone
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Speaker 5: really annoyed. But something else that's making locals very annoyed
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Speaker 5: is what's happening in Sydney. The Chrismians government brought through
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Speaker 5: a bunch of vibrant reforms they were called, which are
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Speaker 5: aimed at rejuvenating the nightlife except now some clubs are
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Speaker 5: taking Chrismin's up on his offer and applying for extended
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Speaker 5: trading hours and the locals aren't so happy about it.
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Speaker 5: In concord, the Croatian Club wants to extend their current
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Speaker 5: trading hours from ten pm and midnight to three am
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Speaker 5: for events ten times a year. Locals who some of
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Speaker 5: which do admittedly live within fifty meters of the venue,
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Speaker 5: are going, hang on a second, we don't want this
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Speaker 5: to be a site of drunken parties concerts till three
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Speaker 5: am in the morning, and so it's causing quite the store.
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Speaker 5: It's attracted over two hundred submissions to the council's development
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Speaker 5: review process.
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Speaker 4: But this is going to.
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Speaker 5: Start happening all around the city and the state as
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Speaker 5: these new laws come into effect. And when you look
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Speaker 5: at how hard it is for hospitality venues, foot traffic
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Speaker 5: is down twenty percent in the last year. Cost of living,
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Speaker 5: the first thing to go is eating out and enjoying nightlife.
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Speaker 5: So look, I get it. It might be frustrating if
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Speaker 5: you live fifty meters from this club.
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Speaker 1: Might be frustrating only ten times.
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Speaker 5: It's only ten times a year, and what it is,
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Speaker 5: it's once a month. Isn't it good to see people
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Speaker 5: going out and having fun?
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Speaker 1: No, who needs to be.
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Speaker 3: Out at three am at the Croatian club making all
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Speaker 3: sorts of noisy? What's trapic problems? Whats soccer at home?
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Speaker 3: You don't need to do it at the club at
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Speaker 3: three am.
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Speaker 1: I think the club wants people to be there. Why
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Speaker 1: you look at me like that? Calor people?
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Speaker 2: Who needs to be out at three am? I mean,
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Speaker 2: you know, we know you're a puriit and James, but
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Speaker 2: for goodness sake, all the best things happen after midnight.
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Speaker 3: You know that if you live fifty meters from this club,
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Speaker 3: surely the council and the government have a responsibility to
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Speaker 3: protect your rights to get a decent y sleep. They
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Speaker 3: don't need to have people out at two three am
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Speaker 3: to revive city nightlife. Nightlife is eleven pm, twelve as
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Speaker 3: one am, three am till one am.
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Speaker 2: They'd go back to the nineteen forties. I mean the
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Speaker 2: nineteen fourteenth pretty good King's Cross was rock and wearing
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Speaker 2: the fifties sixties homes like yeah, I know, because they
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Speaker 2: just well there are homes there now because they ruined
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Speaker 2: the joint and had to fill it up with homes
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Speaker 2: because there's no nightclubs.
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Speaker 1: There's pre existing names in this area.
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Speaker 3: But let's be the rights of those records should be
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Speaker 3: respected principled.
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Speaker 2: But let's be real, jam, they're not going to have
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Speaker 2: concerts going on outdoors until three in the morning. I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's well established in places where pubs and clubs and
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Speaker 2: whatever are allowed to trade beyond midnight, they have a
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Speaker 2: time at which they have to stop trading outdoors. When
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Speaker 2: I lived in Melbourne, I lived in South Melbourne and
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Speaker 2: directly across the roundabout I lived, you know here and
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Speaker 2: over there was the Rising Sun Hotel in South Melbourne,
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Speaker 2: a great pub by the way. They took a lot
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Speaker 2: of my money when I lived there because they could
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Speaker 2: just walk over the round about. It's fantastic. And they
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Speaker 2: would trade on the weekend past midnight, but I think
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Speaker 2: it was after ten thirty or something. They couldn't have
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Speaker 2: people outside. So it didn't particularly bother me.
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Speaker 1: What didn't bother you because you were there half well, But.
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Speaker 2: I wasn't alwis there but because sometimes I had to
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Speaker 2: work on weekends. But you know, and usual you get
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Speaker 2: a bit of noise when people left at one or
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Speaker 2: two in the morning. But you know what, I was
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Speaker 2: opposite a pub. I didn't particularly care. And I'll tell
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Speaker 2: you what was far more offensive noise wise than that pub.
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Speaker 2: It was that at the other end of the street,
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Speaker 2: one hundred meters away. Even I loved the Formula one racing,
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Speaker 2: but when Albert Park Formula one was going on, Albert
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Speaker 2: Park was one hundred meters down the end of the street.
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Speaker 2: The noise of those cars for the five or so
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Speaker 2: days that they race around there was far more offensive
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Speaker 2: than any noise that ever came out of that pub.
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Speaker 2: It was the noise of joy, you know. And it
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Speaker 2: was in South Melbourne. South Melbourne. It was the watering
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Speaker 2: hole for the South Medburn Football Club, which is of
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Speaker 2: course the Sydney Swans. Every time there was a football match,
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Speaker 2: on a Swan's match, that joint was full and the
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Speaker 2: place was full of noise, but not and I knew it.
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Speaker 5: But our problem in Australia, our problem in Sydney is
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Speaker 5: that people are not socializing, they're not going out. And
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Speaker 5: the Croatian Club here in Sydney, it is a member's
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Speaker 5: based club. It has fourteen hundred members, bound together by
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Speaker 5: their share values and commitment, plays an important role in
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Speaker 5: the community. I think it's beautiful to see people wanting
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Speaker 5: to get together, even if it's at three am.
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Speaker 4: It's only once a month. I think you'll survive.
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Speaker 3: Already with the times it's open too. And you said
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Speaker 3: there were more than two hundred submissions. People are complaining
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Speaker 3: not just about noise, but people urinating in the street,
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Speaker 3: traffic problems. They've got the worry of crime because who's
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Speaker 3: out at three am aside from these two and so
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Speaker 3: and fifty minutes home. And if you bought that house
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Speaker 3: with the existing conditions on that club, now the conditions
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Speaker 3: are to be changed. I reckon, you've got every right
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Speaker 3: to be irate. You moved in there knowing how things work.
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Speaker 1: Now they want to change the rules.
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Speaker 2: Look at me, Look at me? I mean, look, I
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Speaker 2: look like a criminal, don't I? Because I like to
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Speaker 2: be out at three am? I look like a criminal.
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Speaker 2: By the way, can I just say what we were
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Speaker 2: talking about nanny state rules in you South Wales? Did
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Speaker 2: you know that if you are in a venue in
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Speaker 2: your South Wales and after midnight you want a whiskey
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Speaker 2: for instance, right, they can't serve it to your neat
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Speaker 2: They're not even on the rocks. You have to mix
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Speaker 2: it with something, because apparently magically, after midnight, the effects
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Speaker 2: of a shot of whiskey are worse than they are
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Speaker 2: at eleven fifty nine, and those effects are taken away
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Speaker 2: when you put a few drops of water in a whiskey.
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Speaker 2: I mean, for goodness sake, what sort of nanny state
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Speaker 2: are we living in. You can't go out at three
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Speaker 2: in the morning, and you can't have a whiskey to
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Speaker 2: close your night at our past twelve.
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Speaker 1: But you want to ban the Formula one.
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Speaker 2: No, I don't want to. I told you I love
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Speaker 2: the Formula one. I just said that the noise is
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Speaker 2: far more offensive of the noise that comes from the pub.
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Speaker 2: I actually like the vibrancy that it brings to the world.
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Speaker 3: James, all right, let's go to the USA, where, of
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Speaker 3: course tragical a young man, Robin Westman, identifying as a woman,
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Speaker 3: went to a Catholic church and shot up the place,
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Speaker 3: killing two young children and wounding seventeen others. It's been
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Speaker 3: very interesting the media coverage of this and reaction from politicians.
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Speaker 3: I want to talk a little bit about it. His
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Speaker 3: Minneapolis mayor, Jacob Fray, was interesting straight after the events,
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Speaker 3: he immediately disparaged Catholics, who, of course were praying when
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Speaker 3: the church was shot up, and then he had these
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Speaker 3: comments to say about the pointlessness of prayer and thoughts.
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Speaker 7: Listen, don't just say this is about thoughts and prayers
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Speaker 7: right now.
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Speaker 2: These kids were literally praying.
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Speaker 3: I don't want to hear thoughts and prayers right now.
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Speaker 3: These people were praying when they got shut up. Not
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Speaker 3: exactly sensitive to the Christian community who have just lost
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Speaker 3: two of their children. What he was more concerned about
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Speaker 3: was to ensure that nobody drew any connections between transgenderism
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Speaker 3: and shootings like this one that had just occurred, warning
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Speaker 3: people to make sure they didn't demonize or hate on
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Speaker 3: the trans community. Which is interesting because the trans community
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Speaker 3: were not the victims here, it was Catholics. But here
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Speaker 3: are his reflex comments.
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Speaker 7: Anybody who was using this as a using this as
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Speaker 7: an opportunity to villainize our trans community or any other
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Speaker 7: community out there, has lost their sense of time and community.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 3: He was interviewed on CNN later in the day and
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Speaker 3: they asked him why he had been so adamant that
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Speaker 3: we've got to protect the trans community when it was
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Speaker 3: Catholic children who were the victims of this crime. Having
18:49
Speaker 3: listened to his explanation, exasperated.
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Speaker 7: As it is, Look, we need to be standing up
18:55
Speaker 7: for every community out there, Catholic community too, by the way.
19:00
Speaker 1: The Catholic community too.
19:03
Speaker 3: By the way, By the way, it was Catholics who
19:06
Speaker 3: were murdered as they were in prayer in their church forrayer.
19:09
Speaker 1: It's a really weird reaction from the mayor.
19:12
Speaker 5: I think it's because in the left's worldview, you're either
19:15
Speaker 5: a victim or you're an oppressor. And if you're the victim,
19:19
Speaker 5: then you're all good and you can't commit any wrong.
19:22
Speaker 5: And if you're the oppressor, then you can never ever
19:24
Speaker 5: be the victim and you are just the root of
19:26
Speaker 5: all evil. In their worldview, transgender people would firmly fall
19:30
Speaker 5: into the category of the victim the good guys, and
19:33
Speaker 5: Catholics Christians, especially Catholics with their conservative views on social issues,
19:39
Speaker 5: would be the oppressors.
19:41
Speaker 4: So the idea that now that equation has.
19:43
Speaker 5: Inverted and you've actually got a trans person who's gone
19:47
Speaker 5: in and shot up a school of Catholic kids, I
19:51
Speaker 5: just don't think they can compute that, like they actually
19:54
Speaker 5: just cannot process that fact because it shatters their whole,
19:59
Speaker 5: the whole illusion that they have that the world can
20:01
Speaker 5: neatly be divided into these two categories. And if you're
20:04
Speaker 5: a Christian, then you're automatically an evil person. And so
20:07
Speaker 5: even in the wake of this tragedy, he is still
20:10
Speaker 5: trying to rationalize this and go, well, but don't demonize
20:13
Speaker 5: the trans community, and oh well, well, thoughts and prayers.
20:16
Speaker 4: What's that going to do? Like, he can't wrap his
20:18
Speaker 4: head around it. And that's the problem.
20:20
Speaker 5: When you flatten people into these groups and say you're
20:22
Speaker 5: all good, you're all bad, it doesn't work because all
20:25
Speaker 5: humans can be both good and bad.
20:28
Speaker 2: And it sort of leads them to this automatic position
20:31
Speaker 2: of trying to find a maybe a justification or a
20:34
Speaker 2: reason for why something might have happened. And so it's
20:38
Speaker 2: almost like they feel a burden to defend someone who's
20:41
Speaker 2: gone up and shot kids, shot up kids for goodness sake, right,
20:45
Speaker 2: I mean over on EMSNBC. And keep in mind, right,
20:48
Speaker 2: if someone had walked into and this has happened before
20:52
Speaker 2: someone walks into a gay club and shoots people up,
20:56
Speaker 2: how much reverence do you think the shooter is going
20:58
Speaker 2: to get in the media approximately none, which is about
21:02
Speaker 2: what they deserve. No one particularly cares about referring to
21:06
Speaker 2: them in the way that they would want to be
21:08
Speaker 2: referred to, or using the right name. We did naming them,
21:10
Speaker 2: or using the right pronouns. But when you have someone
21:13
Speaker 2: who goes and shoots up kids because they're a transgender person,
21:17
Speaker 2: apparently we're going to trip over ourselves, as they did
21:20
Speaker 2: on MSNBC to make sure that the pronouns.
21:22
Speaker 1: Are right they see.
21:24
Speaker 8: Federal law enforcement has identified the Minneapolis church shooter as
21:28
Speaker 8: Robin Westman. Now police have said publicly that Robin Westman
21:33
Speaker 8: is in their twenties with a limited criminal history. The
21:36
Speaker 8: suspect left behind videos that were posted online. There were
21:41
Speaker 8: ratings that reference suicide as well as extremely violent thoughts
21:44
Speaker 8: and ideas. There was an apology to their family.
21:48
Speaker 2: There, I mean, apart from the fact that it's not
21:50
Speaker 2: grammatically correct and that is a hill on which I
21:53
Speaker 2: am willing to die. This is a bloke who, by
21:57
Speaker 2: the way, in his own videos, I am not a woman,
22:02
Speaker 2: so I'm not sure why you know it basically said
22:05
Speaker 2: I know I'm not a woman, but I like to
22:07
Speaker 2: dress up as a woman sometimes I think I look
22:09
Speaker 2: good as a woman, but explicitly said I am not
22:12
Speaker 2: a woman, so does not deserve to be referred to.
22:14
Speaker 2: And I saw another copy today newspapers referred to as
22:17
Speaker 2: she does not deserve to be they or she or anything.
22:21
Speaker 2: When you're reporting on a news story, and I've been
22:24
Speaker 2: a newspaper reporter as you have, James newspaper chief of staff.
22:29
Speaker 2: First and foremost, you strive for accuracy, and you're reporting
22:32
Speaker 2: because you have a responsibility to the reading or viewing
22:35
Speaker 2: public to give an accurate picture of the story you
22:39
Speaker 2: are reporting. And so that means, as uncomfortable as it
22:42
Speaker 2: may be for people at MESNBC to say it that
22:45
Speaker 2: this was a bloke and he is a he. Just
22:50
Speaker 2: because you decide that you are they, it doesn't mean
22:54
Speaker 2: you get to expect the rest of the world you
22:55
Speaker 2: would here to it, especially after you've gone and shot
22:59
Speaker 2: up and killed kid.
23:00
Speaker 3: The other interesting thing about this shooting is that Robin
23:03
Speaker 3: Westerman left plenty of evidence as to his motives. He
23:08
Speaker 3: had a target on his wall with the face of
23:11
Speaker 3: Jesus on it. He wrote on his gun, where is
23:14
Speaker 3: your God Now? He drew a picture of the church
23:17
Speaker 3: and then drove a knife through the picture. He had
23:20
Speaker 3: written on his gun, kill Trump. He had written on
23:23
Speaker 3: his gun threats about Israel. So he left plenty of evidence,
23:27
Speaker 3: I would say, left wing talking points as to why
23:30
Speaker 3: he was committing his crime. But MSNBC, though they knew
23:34
Speaker 3: all this, decided it was better just not to tell viewers.
23:39
Speaker 9: We're still going through the videos and going through the writings.
23:42
Speaker 9: So just to describe it to folks their YouTube videos
23:46
Speaker 9: where there's a number of either journals or they look
23:48
Speaker 9: like journals, where there's a number of writings and this
23:51
Speaker 9: individual's writing about a whole host of things, won't get
23:53
Speaker 9: into all the particular details. As we stated last hour,
23:56
Speaker 9: we're not here to do the bidding of this individual.
24:00
Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you go into the details.
24:02
Speaker 3: The details are key to understanding why this happened. On
24:06
Speaker 3: the ABC, they did give one detail, but only gave
24:10
Speaker 3: half of it. It's concerning Donald Trump.
24:12
Speaker 1: Have listened.
24:13
Speaker 10: There are also photos of the weapons and they include
24:17
Speaker 10: all sorts of writings, the names of past mass shooters,
24:21
Speaker 10: criticism of Israel, the name of President Trump.
24:25
Speaker 3: So the name of President Trump was on one of
24:28
Speaker 3: the guns, which leaves viewers wondering was this killing committed
24:32
Speaker 3: in the name of Trump?
24:34
Speaker 1: That was the implication.
24:35
Speaker 3: Of course, what was written on the gun was kill Trump,
24:39
Speaker 3: but they didn't let viewers know that. Why would they
24:41
Speaker 3: have admitted that little bit of information?
24:44
Speaker 5: Again an inconvenient story. This is a very inconvenient story
24:49
Speaker 5: for the left. To have a radical left wing shooter
24:52
Speaker 5: just shatters their whole worldview. And I think there is
24:56
Speaker 5: a deeper concerning trend going on here, which is the
25:00
Speaker 5: radiation of the left. We're seeing this in protests where
25:04
Speaker 5: you're seeing burning of the flag, violence, BLM riots. There
25:09
Speaker 5: is the Antifa crowd that comes to these things masked
25:13
Speaker 5: with gloves on, ready for violence. The radicalization of the
25:17
Speaker 5: left is serious, but it doesn't get half the attentions
25:22
Speaker 5: as right wing radicalization.
25:23
Speaker 4: The media.
25:24
Speaker 5: These same media outlets will be so quick to jump
25:27
Speaker 5: on anyone that's seen as a right wing radical, but
25:31
Speaker 5: when it's one of their own and left wing radical,
25:34
Speaker 5: well it just had the name of Trump.
25:36
Speaker 4: We won't saying what context it was.
25:38
Speaker 2: Just the name will just lead viewers to think what
25:41
Speaker 2: they may thinking. Well, you can draw your own conclusions.
25:45
Speaker 2: Who would get By the way, Don Lemon done sure
25:47
Speaker 2: he broadcast these ads. I think he broadcasts all. I
25:49
Speaker 2: think he posts his own stuff online because no one
25:52
Speaker 2: wants to employ him. And why would you when you
25:54
Speaker 2: see stuff like this. I mean, he can't even work
25:56
Speaker 2: out what this blokes deal was. Trans people can also
26:02
Speaker 2: be conservative.
26:03
Speaker 1: We don't know if this person's a level or conservative.
26:05
Speaker 2: It could be trans and it could be a trans
26:07
Speaker 2: conservative person. No idea Hattisrael wants to kill Trump. But no,
26:12
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, just the dishonesty is beyond belief.
26:17
Speaker 2: Just be honest about what is going on here. While
26:21
Speaker 2: we're talking about honesty, and you know, the nit Nanny,
26:23
Speaker 2: we should get one of those little stings made up
26:25
Speaker 2: like we do for Dope of the Day, for the
26:27
Speaker 2: nit Nanny, which of course is Julie Inman. Granted, every
26:31
Speaker 2: passing day it seems she leans more and more into
26:34
Speaker 2: the fact that she has this power as the e
26:36
Speaker 2: Safety Commissioner. As I said earlier in the evening on
26:40
Speaker 2: Shari's program, it just seems like she's been consumed with
26:44
Speaker 2: the power of the role. You know, now she wants
26:46
Speaker 2: to She has succeeded in having YouTube included in the
26:49
Speaker 2: social media band for kids, and on and on. It goes.
26:52
Speaker 2: She seems to pop up every day with some other
26:54
Speaker 2: musing but a great exclusive on the Sky News website.
26:58
Speaker 2: I go to skynews dot com, dot a you and
27:01
Speaker 2: read it if you haven't already, but here it's going news.
27:04
Speaker 2: We've uncovered these emails that she was sending to a
27:09
Speaker 2: mob called the Global Alliance for Responsible Media GAM, in
27:14
Speaker 2: which they were basically conspiring about how to silence discussion
27:19
Speaker 2: about Donald Trump online. Now this mob GAM, if you
27:24
Speaker 2: haven't heard of it before, is essentially it's a spin
27:27
Speaker 2: off group. It doesn't exist anymore, but it was a
27:29
Speaker 2: spin off group of the World Federation of Advertisers. It
27:34
Speaker 2: is a private members group of people who work in
27:37
Speaker 2: marketing essentially who set this group up because they didn't
27:41
Speaker 2: want to see ads put next to content online that
27:44
Speaker 2: they didn't like. And when it started out, it was
27:47
Speaker 2: so it wouldn't be next to illegal content. It started
27:50
Speaker 2: after the streaming online of the christ Church massacre, and
27:54
Speaker 2: fair enough, we will sort of understand why you wouldn't
27:56
Speaker 2: want your ads next to child pornography or illegal content
27:59
Speaker 2: or whatever. But they soon turned their attention to things
28:02
Speaker 2: they didn't like politically, and this is where GARM got
28:05
Speaker 2: into trouble because Elon Musk, of course now owns x
28:09
Speaker 2: and Rumble, which is an online video platform, went after
28:12
Speaker 2: GARM in the courts in the United States under the
28:15
Speaker 2: antitrust laws and said, well, you were operating unfairly by
28:18
Speaker 2: trying to take advertising dollars away from political content that
28:23
Speaker 2: you don't like. So GARM folded and then later shut
28:26
Speaker 2: down and said, oh, well we can't possibly deal with
28:28
Speaker 2: this because it would be too expensive. Well, no, it's
28:30
Speaker 2: because they were caught out getting involved in political interference
28:34
Speaker 2: and for some reason or another, our e Safety Commission
28:38
Speaker 2: here in Australia was dealing directly with this GARM mob
28:42
Speaker 2: and talking to them about Donald Trump. Because one of
28:46
Speaker 2: the emails that has been released you can read, as
28:48
Speaker 2: I said earlier on Star News dot com dot au,
28:51
Speaker 2: is from the bloke who was running GARM, Robert Rakowitz,
28:55
Speaker 2: in which he says rather oddly, I need to be
28:58
Speaker 2: spending more time with you. You to whom he's referring to,
29:02
Speaker 2: Julian and Grant there, I go for your life, mate,
29:04
Speaker 2: and at least you keep her out of our here.
29:06
Speaker 2: But he goes on to say, oh, and election results.
29:09
Speaker 2: My main thing is I need to see Trump and
29:12
Speaker 2: denials effectively sidelined. But I'm afraid the contagion is too
29:17
Speaker 2: widespread to protect infection overall. And there are other emails
29:22
Speaker 2: that you can read on our website where julianman Grant
29:25
Speaker 2: is complaining to him about the political state in the
29:28
Speaker 2: United States and Trump and all this sort of business.
29:31
Speaker 2: What is our e Safety Commissioner on about four hundred
29:35
Speaker 2: and fifty grand a year, a well paid bureaucrat dealing
29:39
Speaker 2: with a private group of advertisers based in the United
29:44
Speaker 2: States to talk about how you should or should not
29:47
Speaker 2: be silencing talk about Donald Trump.
29:49
Speaker 5: Well, in one of the emails, she refers to this
29:51
Speaker 5: idea of collective power, and she says in her dealings
29:56
Speaker 5: with Twitter and so Ila Musk acquired Twitter and there
29:59
Speaker 5: were all renegotiating the terms of advertisement, etc. Said, well,
30:03
Speaker 5: in my dealings with Twitter, I will refer to what
30:06
Speaker 5: you've done with Twitter, and that way we can leverage
30:10
Speaker 5: our collective power or words to that effect. So this
30:13
Speaker 5: was actually a global collusion and it wasn't just with Australia.
30:17
Speaker 5: It was also with the EU's Digital Safety regulator as well.
30:21
Speaker 5: So this was actually about the advertising cartels colluding with
30:25
Speaker 5: the e Safety Commissioners of Australia and the EU to
30:29
Speaker 5: pressure Twitter to suppress political content.
30:34
Speaker 4: I mean that is profound.
30:36
Speaker 5: Foreign regulators suppressing the information American citizens can get during
30:42
Speaker 5: midterm elections.
30:43
Speaker 1: I just don't know why any of us are surprised
30:45
Speaker 1: by this.
30:46
Speaker 3: I mean, she's been quite clear in her intentions to
30:49
Speaker 3: use her role politically, whether it was trying to stop
30:52
Speaker 3: anyone from seeing that terror attack when a church minister
30:55
Speaker 3: was stabbed in the face. She didn't want anyone to
30:57
Speaker 3: see that footage, or whether it was ban criticism of
31:00
Speaker 3: a transgendered bureaucrat working for There was at the United
31:05
Speaker 3: Nation World Health Organization and she wanted that band. So
31:10
Speaker 3: there's a pattern of behavior here. It's amazing that she
31:13
Speaker 3: keeps her job.
31:15
Speaker 1: Now.
31:15
Speaker 3: Uber have got a new product launching this Friday right
31:20
Speaker 3: around the country called Uber Forteens. At the moment, you
31:24
Speaker 3: can't put a teenager into an Uber on their own,
31:28
Speaker 3: They've got to be accompanied by an adult. But as
31:30
Speaker 3: a Friday, they will have drivers who have.
31:33
Speaker 1: Completed working with children.
31:34
Speaker 3: Checks who will be allowed to pick up children thirteen
31:38
Speaker 3: and over on their own. The idea is to help
31:42
Speaker 3: parents who are busy. So you can stick your thirteen
31:45
Speaker 3: year old in an Uber and they can go to
31:46
Speaker 3: violin practice or to their football game, and parents can
31:50
Speaker 3: track the Uber ride as they go to make sure
31:53
Speaker 3: the kids are okay. So this is being promoted as
31:56
Speaker 3: a great service for mums and dads who are busy,
31:59
Speaker 3: can't take the kids everywhere that they've got to go,
32:02
Speaker 3: stick them in an Uber Uber will look after them.
32:05
Speaker 3: I am not a fan of this at all, and
32:08
Speaker 3: I've got to say to Uber, I mean, I'm sure
32:10
Speaker 3: they're launching it with the best of intentions, but.
32:11
Speaker 1: The timing is terrible.
32:13
Speaker 3: How many stories have we heard in the last month
32:15
Speaker 3: about working with children checks that either weren't done properly
32:20
Speaker 3: or were done and yet people with shall we say
32:23
Speaker 3: checked histories with children have been allowed access to kids anyway.
32:27
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure many.
32:28
Speaker 3: People are thinking, oh, he's got a working with children
32:31
Speaker 3: check is going to make them feel that safe.
32:34
Speaker 1: The other thing, though, as.
32:35
Speaker 3: A parent, is one of the times that you get
32:38
Speaker 3: to spend with your kid because life is frenetic, but
32:41
Speaker 3: time in the car you actually get to talk to
32:44
Speaker 3: your son or your daughter. I'm not sure this is
32:47
Speaker 3: a great parenting idea where you just stick your kid
32:50
Speaker 3: in an Uber and you allow the Uber driver to
32:52
Speaker 3: have their attention for the next half hours they go
32:55
Speaker 3: off to Socker. It might be convenient. I just don't
32:57
Speaker 3: know that it's great parenting.
32:58
Speaker 4: Now I disagree.
32:59
Speaker 5: I think this will be great, and I mean the
33:01
Speaker 5: alternative is these kids are on public transport where my
33:03
Speaker 5: parents couldn't take me somewhere. I would take a bus
33:06
Speaker 5: or a train or whatever. And I think being in
33:08
Speaker 5: one Uber with a driver that you know that you
33:10
Speaker 5: can track, that you know at least has some sort
33:13
Speaker 5: of vetting. Even if the working with Children check system
33:16
Speaker 5: is flawed overall, it does still work quite well. So
33:20
Speaker 5: I think this is far better than sending them on
33:22
Speaker 5: public transport. In fact, I would say the risk here
33:25
Speaker 5: is that they lose the ability to use public transport
33:28
Speaker 5: and then Uber becomes the status quo. But currently I
33:32
Speaker 5: wish my parents spend time driving me to various activities.
33:35
Speaker 5: They're probably watching right now, but they definitely did not.
33:38
Speaker 5: It was survival of the fittest in my household, and
33:41
Speaker 5: I would have loved this service.
33:43
Speaker 2: I mean, the zagman I suppose that on public transport
33:45
Speaker 2: there's other people around, so you potentially got strapped, and
33:48
Speaker 2: it's a deterrent for people to do dodgy things. But
33:51
Speaker 2: go with mates public ye, well, well if you've got mates,
33:55
Speaker 2: some kids don't have mates. So you know, I remember
33:57
Speaker 2: than funny, funny, funny story I had to teach my
34:01
Speaker 2: brother the first time he took the bus. Right. He
34:03
Speaker 2: was like, he was all trepidations about taking the bus.
34:06
Speaker 2: I was an independent child and he wasn't. You know.
34:09
Speaker 2: I loved going away for the weekend, camping with a mate,
34:13
Speaker 2: or spinning the week at my grandparents or whatever, and
34:16
Speaker 2: he wasn't that sort of kid. So when he was
34:18
Speaker 2: faced with the first opportunity or need really to have
34:22
Speaker 2: some independence because Mum went back to work full time
34:25
Speaker 2: when I became a teenager, he was like, oh my god,
34:28
Speaker 2: what do I do? And so I think that feeds
34:31
Speaker 2: into part of this. Right. It's a parental decision whether
34:34
Speaker 2: or not you want your kid to use this Uber
34:36
Speaker 2: for teens. When I saw Uber fourteens, I thought it
34:38
Speaker 2: was like Rugby twelves or something criminal. But I think
34:42
Speaker 2: we live in a world now where children are infantilized
34:46
Speaker 2: for too long and they're not given any responsibility. And
34:49
Speaker 2: so once upon a time, you know, in the school holidays,
34:53
Speaker 2: maybe you're old enough for this to have been your experience, James.
34:57
Speaker 2: You know, you get on your bike and you went
34:59
Speaker 2: out and caught up with your mates and carried on
35:01
Speaker 2: for the day behind. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Mum said be
35:04
Speaker 2: home for dinner, right, And that was the only rule
35:06
Speaker 2: they were worried about. Where you were never tracking device
35:09
Speaker 2: on you, You didn't, never smartphone. There was no concern
35:13
Speaker 2: whatsoever as long as you came home for dinner. Whereas
35:16
Speaker 2: now the kid's got to be tracked all the time.
35:18
Speaker 2: They've got to be within earshot. You've got to have
35:20
Speaker 2: an eye on them. You can't play cricket in the
35:23
Speaker 2: street because you're going to get run over. On and
35:25
Speaker 2: on and on and on it goes. So we've created
35:27
Speaker 2: this world where kids actually don't have any responsibility anymore.
35:31
Speaker 2: Once upon a time, a kid getting somewhere on their
35:34
Speaker 2: own at thirteen would have been wholly unremarked.
35:38
Speaker 3: The only problem with what you've said is was twofold.
35:40
Speaker 3: You've given a bit of a character, sure of. You
35:43
Speaker 3: know how bad parenting is these days. You've got to
35:46
Speaker 3: have a tracking device on you.
35:47
Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera.
35:48
Speaker 2: Well, I'll be just saying that sort of what.
35:50
Speaker 3: You've also only given one side of the story, right,
35:52
Speaker 3: that the culture is different, society is different, traffic is
35:56
Speaker 3: much worse. For example, we rode our bikes everywhere.
35:59
Speaker 2: Well, don't do it, you know, on paramounta road. But
36:03
Speaker 2: I would.
36:03
Speaker 3: Have written on main roads back in the day. But
36:05
Speaker 3: these days, even now, I wouldn't write on main roads
36:08
Speaker 3: having been hit by a car. So I think the
36:10
Speaker 3: world has changed. I take your point, but I don't know.
36:13
Speaker 3: Would you put your thirteen year old daughter in a Nuba.
36:16
Speaker 2: Well, but I suppose if the alternative is that your
36:19
Speaker 2: thirteen year old daughters walking down the street, I mean
36:21
Speaker 2: they could get mugged, robbed, raped, any it.
36:24
Speaker 1: Should be in a Nuba.
36:25
Speaker 5: When I was fourteen, I went on exchange to Reunion Island,
36:28
Speaker 5: which is in Africa, for six months by myself. That
36:31
Speaker 5: I was at fourteen. At thirteen, take an uber all
36:34
Speaker 5: you want. I think kids are way more independent and responsible.
36:37
Speaker 5: But one thing quickly before we go, someone wrote in
36:40
Speaker 5: this City Morning Herald, the solution to getting people back
36:43
Speaker 5: into the office is to get rid of open work,
36:46
Speaker 5: plan spaces and bring back private offices.
36:49
Speaker 4: I am inclined to agree.
36:51
Speaker 1: I'm inclined to agree.
36:52
Speaker 2: And if you get Nuba there, then I suppose it's
36:54
Speaker 2: all the more better for you.
36:57
Speaker 1: All right, Way to go to a break.
36:58
Speaker 3: When we come back, look at what's making news tomorrow,
37:01
Speaker 3: including ASIO investigating the threat to hijack a jet out
37:06
Speaker 3: of Australia and force it to travel to a Middle
37:09
Speaker 3: Eastern country. We'll talk about that and a lot more
37:11
Speaker 3: in just a moment. Welcome back to the program. Let's
37:20
Speaker 3: take a look at tomorrow's headlines and Frey the Australian's
37:23
Speaker 3: got an incredible story about a hijack plot.
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Speaker 4: Oh, just unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: So the headline is hijack plot included plan to fly
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Speaker 5: passenger jet to the Middle East. A foiled plot to
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Speaker 5: hijack a commercial jet at an Australian airport and demand
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Speaker 5: the plane and its passengers be flown to a hostile
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Speaker 5: Middle Eastern nation is the subject of an investigation by
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Speaker 5: a counter terrorism task force. In a major national security twist,
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Speaker 5: it can be revealed that an existing investigation by the
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Speaker 5: Australian Federal Police is seriously examining the bizarre threat. While
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Speaker 5: the plan to seize control of the commercial airline and
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Speaker 5: its passengers in who was thwarted. The Australian can reveal
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Speaker 5: the AFP and intelligence agencies are engaged in a complex
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Speaker 5: and potentially protracted investigation into the incident, and arrest has
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Speaker 5: been made in relation to the incident and there is
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Speaker 5: no ongoing threat to aviation from the plot. The alleged
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Speaker 5: hijacker remains in custody. I mean, that is just unbelievable.
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Speaker 5: A hijack threat here in Australia, and now the Australian
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Speaker 5: has said they've chosen not to identify which Middle Eastern
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Speaker 5: nation the plane would have been taken to. But it
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Speaker 5: does make you wonder are these pieces connected and what
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Speaker 5: is the true nature of the threat Iran poses to Australia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the timing of this story in light of what's
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Speaker 3: just happened, is it coincidental or is it deliberate?
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Speaker 1: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: The other interesting part of this story is that the
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Speaker 3: Department of Home Affairs met with airport chiefs around the
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Speaker 3: country saying we do need to beef up security at airports.
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Speaker 1: That's a priority.
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Speaker 3: But the federal government said they would not contribute anything
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Speaker 3: to that extra security. So on the one hand, Home
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Speaker 3: Affairs very concerned and on the other hand saying, but
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Speaker 3: we're not going to stump up any money to keep
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Speaker 3: Australian safe.
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Speaker 2: And I'd have to like, how out of your brain
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Speaker 2: do you have to be to think you're going to
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Speaker 2: fly a plane from Australia to the Middle East. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's not an easy exercise. It involves refueling multiple times,
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Speaker 2: and we don't know what sort of plane they're talking
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Speaker 2: about here, rather so whether or not that plane would
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Speaker 2: have even been capable of doing so, So it all
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Speaker 2: seems a bit ham fisted, but very cute.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean I don't know if we can
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Speaker 5: dismiss it that easily.
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Speaker 4: We fly direct flights to the Middle East all the time.
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Speaker 4: It's very feasible.
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Speaker 5: And if they had done enough for work and preparation
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Speaker 5: for it to be a protracted investigation by counter terrorism,
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Speaker 5: I mean, that's pretty sinister. But we'll see, hopefully they
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Speaker 5: figure all of this stuff out. But also in the
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Speaker 5: Australian Tomorrow smirk belies wickedness within enemy and boys surreal
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Speaker 5: send off with academic ally the eye Toller's envoy to
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Speaker 5: Canberra has brazenly claimed Australians in Iran are safe and
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Speaker 5: he loves the nation that is kicking him out over
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Speaker 5: the Islamist regimes campaign of terror against Jews in Sydney
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Speaker 5: and Melbourne. Smirking and blowing kisses at Sydney Airport, disgrace
40:17
Speaker 5: diplomat Ahmad Sadeghi was sent off at the airport by
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Speaker 5: former University of Sydney academic Tim Anderson, who was sacked
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Speaker 5: over inflammatory social media posts, including one that featured the
40:30
Speaker 5: Israeli flag with the Nazi swasti chronic and has had
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Speaker 5: ties with Iran.
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Speaker 4: Well, I think.
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Speaker 5: That's a very fitting send off for a disgraced Iranian
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Speaker 5: diplomatic University of Sydney academic waiving them as they go.
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Speaker 1: How fitting he blew kisses to the folk at the airport.
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Speaker 3: I'm I'm sure anyone was blowing kisses back to him, Caleb,
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Speaker 3: and I'm sure he loves Australia.
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Speaker 1: Australia would be a far pretty good.
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Speaker 2: Isn't it. One. He's returning to this strangely happy looking happy,
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Speaker 2: isn't he? And we should not? Of course, they said
41:02
Speaker 2: that the diplomats in Australia weren't aware of are involved
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Speaker 2: in these plots, but he looks mighty happy to be
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Speaker 2: going home. I don't know that i'd be that happy
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Speaker 2: to leave Australia, to be perfectly honest. Let's move on
41:14
Speaker 2: to the Herald's Sun where it says tomorrow billion dollar
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Speaker 2: boost for our farmers. This is from the Bush Summit,
41:21
Speaker 2: of course, you can watch here on Sky News. Tomorrow,
41:25
Speaker 2: farmers battling and preparing for drought and floods will have
41:28
Speaker 2: access to an extra one billion dollars in low interest
41:31
Speaker 2: loans under Labour's plan to expand support for the agricultural sector.
41:35
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anthony Alberizi will announce the new funding and
41:38
Speaker 2: continuation of the Regional Investment Corporation loan scheme at the
41:42
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five Bush Summit in Ballarat, acknowledging farmers have
41:47
Speaker 2: been doing it tough and look, I mean that's something,
41:50
Speaker 2: but I don't think that does much to help the
41:53
Speaker 2: fact that and we saw the scenes out of the
41:55
Speaker 2: Bush Summit in New South Wales the other day exactly
41:58
Speaker 2: how upset farmers and rural people are about what's been
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Speaker 2: done to them in terms of wind projects. And solar projects, etc.
42:07
Speaker 2: We know down in Victoria that they're having major issues.
42:10
Speaker 2: Farmers peoply in the western districts had these power lines
42:13
Speaker 2: they want to put through their properties, et cetera. You know,
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Speaker 2: we'll put up a billion dollars of low interest loans,
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Speaker 2: but there are much bigger problems than that to do.
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Speaker 3: It's the very least it should be done for our farmers.
42:23
Speaker 3: Let's go to the front page of the Gold Coast Bulletin.
42:26
Speaker 3: They're celebrating, of course, the Sun's making it into the
42:28
Speaker 3: finals of the AFL for the first time in fifteen years.
42:31
Speaker 3: But the story that got our attention down the bottom
42:34
Speaker 3: of the paper unfair uniform rule. Students and parents from
42:38
Speaker 3: a Gold Coast primary school that would be Pacific Pines
42:42
Speaker 3: Primary School fuming over a new rule which will force
42:47
Speaker 3: children to wear their school uniform to the graduation ceremony.
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Speaker 3: And email from Pacific Pines State Primary School Deputy Principal
42:54
Speaker 3: Ben Henderson shared the new rule, which devastated students claimed
42:58
Speaker 3: was unfair. In fact, the paper reports there's been a
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Speaker 3: petition put together by fifty students and signed might I
43:05
Speaker 3: add by five teachers and the reason they're upset Freyer
43:08
Speaker 3: is because a lot of parents, especially of daughters, want
43:12
Speaker 3: their daughter to be able to wear a dress or
43:15
Speaker 3: a gown more like a year twelve formal. And it's
43:18
Speaker 3: no fun being driven to the primary school graduation ceremony
43:23
Speaker 3: in a limousine if you're wearing your uniform.
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Speaker 1: That's what the upset is.
43:27
Speaker 3: So these are parents trying to turn year six students
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Speaker 3: finishing year six, about to go into year seven their
43:33
Speaker 3: graduation thing into like a high school formal.
43:36
Speaker 4: What's a graduate.
43:38
Speaker 1: They're eleven years old.
43:39
Speaker 5: For goodness, say okay, and different story. If it's the party,
43:42
Speaker 5: you know how people will do. You'll have the school
43:45
Speaker 5: assembly and then maybe a do after school in the evening.
43:49
Speaker 5: Don't wear your uniform to that, that's perfectly fair, but
43:52
Speaker 5: for the school assembly that is just ridiculous.
43:56
Speaker 2: Of course you should wear your uniform. I'm feeling ripped
43:59
Speaker 2: off because I went to a school that went from
44:02
Speaker 2: reception I think in New South Wales you called it
44:04
Speaker 2: kindy reception all the way through the year twelve at
44:07
Speaker 2: the one school. So I didn't get any primary school graduation.
44:11
Speaker 2: I just turn up to school the next year and
44:14
Speaker 2: then continued going to school I didn't get any of
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Speaker 2: this business. What you can I got to wear your uniform,
44:19
Speaker 2: I nothing at.
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Speaker 4: All deal with You could have worn your nice frock.
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Speaker 2: Oh well that's well. I wouldn't have been wearing the frock,
44:26
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, these days, I suppose a good word.
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Speaker 4: Who knows well.
44:28
Speaker 5: In the Career Mail tomorrow, an interesting article caught out
44:32
Speaker 5: I spider venom to save lives.
44:35
Speaker 4: First responders could be armed.
44:37
Speaker 5: With a spider venom jab to administer to stroke and
44:40
Speaker 5: heart attack patients thanks to a Queensland breakthrough. So they
44:45
Speaker 5: think that using spider venom can actually be a great
44:49
Speaker 5: first response for stroke and heart attack.
44:51
Speaker 2: Who knew?
44:51
Speaker 4: That's wonderful.
44:52
Speaker 3: So you've suffered a stroke and then they tell you
44:55
Speaker 3: don't worry, it's going to be all right.
44:57
Speaker 1: I've got some red back juicy here.
44:59
Speaker 3: We're it's going to stick this And then that gives
45:01
Speaker 3: you a heart. Get the.
45:03
Speaker 2: Red back on the toilet. See. You know, I'm glad
45:07
Speaker 2: there's like a redemption arc for all these poor tiders
45:11
Speaker 2: who get such a bad rap in this country. I'm
45:14
Speaker 2: glad they're useful to us in some way or another.
45:16
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, if I saw them i'd get
45:18
Speaker 2: them more turning out to be honest and spray away.
45:21
Speaker 2: I'm not a particular fan of spiders. Some people reckon
45:24
Speaker 2: you should save them. If you see one in your bedroom,
45:26
Speaker 2: scoop it up, and I don't care. I'm just killing
45:29
Speaker 2: that thing as fast as I'm possible to be perfectly honest.
45:32
Speaker 2: By the way, look up online spider is fighting with wasps.
45:35
Speaker 2: Great videos, so I assure you great way to keep
45:39
Speaker 2: yourself to sleep it mate, before we go to the
45:41
Speaker 2: break the Daily Telegraph, I just love it because it's
45:44
Speaker 2: a fantastic photo on the front of the paper tomorrow
45:46
Speaker 2: and stack Away it says even taking a monumental stack
45:50
Speaker 2: on set and Hathaway was all class and a ripper
45:55
Speaker 2: set of photographs there that they've managed to get on
45:57
Speaker 2: the front page. You can see the poor there has
46:01
Speaker 2: had one of her heels go awry and she's taken
46:05
Speaker 2: a little slip down the stairs. Now, James, I know
46:08
Speaker 2: that you are a big fan of wearing high heels.
46:10
Speaker 2: Has this ever happened to you.
46:11
Speaker 3: On many occasions? Calebs, I'm always very careful what we're.
46:15
Speaker 1: Going to go to a break quick we come back.
46:17
Speaker 3: Bob Katter's epicrant against a journalist and the Brits may
46:22
Speaker 3: have lost many of their freedoms, but they haven't lost their.
46:25
Speaker 1: Sense of humor. We'll show you why in just a moment.
46:31
Speaker 3: Well, we have got to talk about North Queensland MP
46:34
Speaker 3: Bob catterfreyer because he went off today.
46:37
Speaker 4: It was genuinely spectacular. Have a look for yourself.
46:42
Speaker 2: If you've got lean heritage yourself.
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Speaker 11: Oh, Mike, don't say that because that irritates me and
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Speaker 11: I punch bikes in the mouth for saying that.
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Speaker 1: Don't you dare say that.
46:53
Speaker 11: My family have been in this country for one hundred
46:55
Speaker 11: and forty years, right, so you and you say anything
46:59
Speaker 11: like that, I have on many occasions punch bloods in
47:03
Speaker 11: the mouth. Right, So I'm restraining myself today. Don't shay it.
47:08
Speaker 11: I'm not listening to you.
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Speaker 1: You're outry.
47:10
Speaker 5: So he said this in the context of talking about
47:13
Speaker 5: how we should be accepting migrants who come from places
47:16
Speaker 5: with shared backgrounds and beliefs. At us he was asked
47:19
Speaker 5: about his Lebanese heritage and he went ballistic and now
47:23
Speaker 5: Channel nine are demanding an apology from Catta.
47:27
Speaker 3: There was no sense of humor there at all, but
47:30
Speaker 3: I'll tell you the Brits have got a great sense
47:32
Speaker 3: of humor. Their rights are being stripped, but you can't
47:34
Speaker 3: take away their funny bone. Now, many Brits are putting
47:37
Speaker 3: up the flag of Sir George and the Union Jack
47:41
Speaker 3: all around the town because they want to be proud
47:43
Speaker 3: of their heritage, and councils keep ripping them down immediately
47:46
Speaker 3: because I don't know, somehow it's offensive to migrants. So
47:49
Speaker 3: the Brits have produced this video taking advantage of the
47:53
Speaker 3: fact that they can't put British fags out for long anymore.
47:56
Speaker 2: Have a look that also for has been there for
47:59
Speaker 2: three weeks. My son painted an England flag on the
48:02
Speaker 2: front and the council came straight away to remove the
48:04
Speaker 2: bloody thing. Look how fast the council removed my bins
48:08
Speaker 2: when they have the England flag on it.
48:14
Speaker 1: You know what I reckon they need to do.
48:15
Speaker 3: They need to put a British flag on kissed Arma.
48:18
Speaker 2: He has a great idea.
48:20
Speaker 11: You know.
48:20
Speaker 2: Someone once said, put him in a chaff bag and
48:22
Speaker 2: throw him out to slee But we won't go there.
48:24
Speaker 2: But I'm glad to see that AI is doing wonderful
48:27
Speaker 2: things for once. Now you might have noticed. Gavin nw
48:30
Speaker 2: some of course, governor of California had some weird affectations.
48:34
Speaker 2: If you're not aware here it is you have.
48:36
Speaker 5: An in company governor in California.
48:40
Speaker 12: Yeah, conditions that determine our fade in future, and that
48:45
Speaker 12: that that fundamental notion, Ma Ajory, I think is important
48:48
Speaker 12: more broadly, and I think that goes to some of
48:50
Speaker 12: the issues around, you know, victimization, and.
48:53
Speaker 2: I mean, what the hell is that. We'll quickly go
48:55
Speaker 2: back to Donald Trump.
48:57
Speaker 5: You have an in company governor in California.
49:01
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I know him very well. He's incompetent, he's
49:04
Speaker 2: a nice guy, looks good.
49:05
Speaker 9: Hi everybody, how you doing.
49:07
Speaker 4: He's got some strange hand action going.
49:09
Speaker 8: I don't know what the hell is the problem.
49:11
Speaker 2: He is the comedian of our times, mister Trump.
49:14
Speaker 1: He certainly is.
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Speaker 3: That's all we've got time for tonight, stick around. Coming
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Speaker 3: up next is the Rita Penney Show.
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Speaker 1: Good Night,