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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: Okay, real talk.
- 0:01SPEAKER_01: Nobody under 30 has ever said the word bond unless it was following James.
- 0:06SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows what a stock is.
- 0:08SPEAKER_00: Stocks are hot.
- 0:09SPEAKER_00: Stocks are the guy that pull up in the fancy cars.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: And bonds are what?
- 0:14SPEAKER_01: The guy that remembers your birthday?
- 0:16SPEAKER_00: Bonds are the guy your mom likes.
- 0:20SPEAKER_02: Both of these are compliments.
- 0:22SPEAKER_02: You just don't know it yet.
- 0:24SPEAKER_02: Here's the deal.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: Bonds sound scary and boring, but neither of these things are true.
- 0:30SPEAKER_02: They're actually one of the most important tools you'll ever use not to be broke.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: So today we're explaining it through dating because apparently that's the only language my brother speaks.
- 0:41SPEAKER_01: It's the only language anyone speaks.
- 0:44SPEAKER_02: Stick around, because by the end of this episode, you'll find out why the boring guy your mom likes may be the best choice in the market.
- 0:52SPEAKER_02: Simplest version: a bond is a loan.
- 0:55SPEAKER_02: You give a company or the government your money for a set amount of time.
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: In exchange, they'll promise you two things.
- 1:03SPEAKER_02: They'll pay you back a little bit extra every year just for the privilege of using your cash.
- 1:08SPEAKER_02: And at the end, they'll hand back every dollar you gave them.
- 1:12SPEAKER_01: So I'm the bank?
- 1:14SPEAKER_02: You're the bank, they're the borrower.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: And I'm a stock.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: Which means what?
- 1:19SPEAKER_02: You're not lending anybody anything.
- 1:22SPEAKER_02: You're buying a tiny piece of a company.
- 1:25SPEAKER_02: If the company does great, you do great.
- 1:28SPEAKER_02: And if it does terrible, you lose money right alongside it.
- 1:32SPEAKER_02: No promises, no guarantees.
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: So I get my money back no matter what, but he might just not.
- 1:40SPEAKER_01: I also might make more than you'll ever make.
- 1:42SPEAKER_01: Might.
- 1:43SPEAKER_02: That's the whole difference, actually.
- 1:45SPEAKER_02: Bonds are calmer, usually less risk and a steadier payout.
- 1:49SPEAKER_02: Stocks can swing way high, but they can also swing way lower.
- 1:54SPEAKER_02: Neither one of these is better.
- 1:56SPEAKER_02: They're just different personalities.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: And I'm the personality that gets invited to parties.
- 2:02SPEAKER_01: And I'm the personality that gets invited back to Thanksgiving.
- 2:06SPEAKER_02: Okay, so we have to make a decision here, but let's make it a little more fun.
- 2:10SPEAKER_02: You guys both like my friend Julie, right?
- 2:12SPEAKER_02: So pitch to Julie why you're the best investment.
- 2:16SPEAKER_00: Julie, baby, with me.
- 2:18SPEAKER_00: The highs, they're incredible.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Some years, I'm up huge.
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: Sure, some years I might embarrass you in front of your friends, but that ceiling, it's unlimited.
- 2:30SPEAKER_01: Julie, with me, you know exactly what you'll be getting year after year.
- 2:35SPEAKER_01: I show up, I text you back, I pay you exactly when I say I will.
- 2:40SPEAKER_01: I will never once make you cry in a group chat.
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: See, this is the actual decision every investor makes.
- 2:47SPEAKER_02: Do I want to take a risk on the guy who could take me somewhere amazing, but could also take me somewhere absolutely terrible?
- 2:53SPEAKER_02: Or do I want the guy who's reliable every time forever?
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: That guy sounds boring.
- 3:00SPEAKER_02: He's also how you don't end up crying over your 401k at 26.
- 3:05SPEAKER_02: Most smart people would date both of you.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: Mostly stocks because you're the growth, but also some bonds to make sure the whole thing doesn't fall apart the one year the market has a bad breakup.
- 3:16SPEAKER_01: I'm not the backup plan, I'm the foundation.
- 3:19SPEAKER_00: You're the guy that nobody swipes right on first.
- 3:22SPEAKER_01: I'm the guy people marry.
- 3:24SPEAKER_02: Here's where it gets interesting.
- 3:25SPEAKER_02: Even a bond's value can move around.
- 3:28SPEAKER_02: And it's not because the bond changed, it's because everything around the bond changed.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: What do you mean, changed?
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: Picture this.
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: You give someone your number at a party, and at the time, you were the coolest guy in the room.
- 3:40SPEAKER_01: Objectively.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: Then, three weeks later, three new guys.
- 3:45SPEAKER_02: They're hotter, they play basketball, they have more money, they're taller, they show up to the party.
- 3:51SPEAKER_02: This is the same as interest rates going up in the market.
- 3:54SPEAKER_01: So I'm less special even though I didn't change at all?
- 3:57SPEAKER_02: Exactly.
- 3:57SPEAKER_02: That's what happens when interest rates go up even after you've locked in a bond.
- 4:01SPEAKER_02: Brand new bonds start offering better deals than yours.
- 4:05SPEAKER_02: So if you tried to sell yours early, you'd have to knock down the price to compete.
- 4:09SPEAKER_02: And if interest rates go down, then you're the only guy in an all-girls school.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: The good rate from everybody else's deal got worse.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: Suddenly, you're extremely in demand.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: So I go up and down just depending on whoever's in the market, not be depending on if I got worse.
- 4:26SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 4:27SPEAKER_02: And there's a second thing working on you the entire time.
- 4:30SPEAKER_02: Whether rates move or not, a dollar today buys way more than a dollar in 10 years.
- 4:36SPEAKER_02: So even if nothing changes, the money you get back is worth a little less than the money you handed over.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: So even the reliable guy gets a little less impressive over time.
- 4:47SPEAKER_02: Only if you're not paying attention to it.
- 4:49SPEAKER_02: But here's the part that actually matters the most.
- 4:52SPEAKER_02: If you hold your bond the whole way through instead of selling it early, none of that up and down really messes with you.
- 4:58SPEAKER_02: You still get your interest rates every year, you still get every dollar back at the end.
- 5:02SPEAKER_02: Inflation is the only thing quietly working against you the entire time.
- 5:06SPEAKER_02: Okay, quick pro and cons because you guys are gonna forget half of this by tomorrow.
- 5:10SPEAKER_02: Pros, you get paid regularly just from holding it.
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: You get every dollar of your original payment back if you just hold on till the end.
- 5:18SPEAKER_02: And it barely moves compared to a stock.
- 5:20SPEAKER_02: So it's basically the calm one in your portfolio.
- 5:23SPEAKER_02: Now, for some cons, the payout is usually smaller than what a stock can do.
- 5:27SPEAKER_02: If you need your money back early, then you might have to sell for less than what you paid.
- 5:32SPEAKER_02: And inflation is quietly eating a little bit of your return the entire time, no matter what.
- 5:37SPEAKER_01: So I'm stable, dependable, and slightly less exciting than everyone remembers.
- 5:43SPEAKER_02: Correct.
- 5:45SPEAKER_01: Some people marry that, buddy.
- 5:47SPEAKER_02: A bond is just a loan.
- 5:49SPEAKER_02: You lend money, you get paid interest, and you get your principal back.
- 5:52SPEAKER_02: It's calmer than a stock, but its value can still shift based off of the interest rates around it.
- 5:57SPEAKER_02: And inflation quietly nibbles at it the entire time.
- 6:00SPEAKER_02: Hold it to the end, and most of that stops mattering.
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: So I'm reliable.
- 6:05SPEAKER_01: Say it.
- 6:06SPEAKER_01: You're reliable.
- 6:07SPEAKER_01: Louder for the people in the back that think I'm boring.
- 6:10SPEAKER_02: We're trouble de money.
- 6:11SPEAKER_00: Date the stock for thrill.
- 6:12SPEAKER_00: Marry the bond for stability.
- 6:15SPEAKER_01: I heard Mary and stopped listening.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: Subscribe.