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#1693 What The F**k Is Blu Ray? - Patrick Bonello · The You Project

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  Speaker 1: I got a team.
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  Speaker 2: It's Kraigathew Harp, Tiffany and Cookpatrick, James Bonello, the U Project.
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  Speaker 1: Every two weeks the three of us get together.
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  Speaker 2: We don't really, let's be honest, we don't get a
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  Speaker 2: lot done.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 2: Value this is to the world, but for some strange reasons,
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  Speaker 2: some of you like it. Some of you fucking love
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  Speaker 2: this episode. I do not know why, what the fuck
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  Speaker 2: is wrong with you? But anyway, here we are. We'll
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  Speaker 2: start with the one at the bottom of my screen,
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  Speaker 2: Tiffany Cook, the giggling, fucking boxer pugilist, Hi.
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  Speaker 3: Cook, bottom of your screen, and the top of your
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  Speaker 3: Christmas list?
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  Speaker 1: Oh right, really not really, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: Not the present for you? The presents are you going
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  Speaker 3: to buy?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm not Yeah, I'm not that great at Christmas.
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  Speaker 2: When there's only you and Ron and Mary and they're
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  Speaker 2: one hundred and forty two and one hundred and forty three, respectively,
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  Speaker 2: Christmas is not a big extravaganza, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, true, true.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And thanks for the nine hundred messages you sent
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  Speaker 2: me last night night.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, She's trying to Hi. Patrick.
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  Speaker 4: My takeaway from all that is that I'm looking to
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  Speaker 4: get Christmas gift from you.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I'll do though, I'll give you
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  Speaker 2: a cuddle. I promise you I will come up this this.
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  Speaker 2: I promise you on air that I will come up
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  Speaker 2: and see your house and hang out with you.
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  Speaker 1: And that's you and your knew everything.
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  Speaker 2: So I yeah, Dip sent me some pictures of puppies
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  Speaker 2: last night that apparently I need to get one of.
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  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, you know, one or two. I'm like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they're cute.
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  Speaker 2: And then and then I stupidly asked how much are they?
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  Speaker 2: And then that was it. That was like, oh, he's
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  Speaker 2: getting one. So then there was an onslaught of like
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  Speaker 2: twenty text messages over the following our.
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  Speaker 4: Patrick. That's what though.
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  Speaker 3: I just told him this this morning. They were born
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  Speaker 3: on his birthday. Like if that's not meant to be, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what is.
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  Speaker 1: Is that a sign from the puppy god?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: The puppy gods have spoken loud and clear.
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  Speaker 4: Love knows no boundaries with a dog.
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  Speaker 1: That is true. That is true. Anyway, Good morning, Patrick,
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  Speaker 1: how are you?
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  Speaker 4: I'm great. I know that you really want to get
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  Speaker 4: straight into the topics because we You know, you were
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  Speaker 4: a little bit critical at the start, saying we talk shit.
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  Speaker 4: But because I want to say hello to a friend
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  Speaker 4: of mine, Kim and her dog Walter, I just thought
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  Speaker 4: I'll give a shout out because it's funny. We meet
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  Speaker 4: at the park walking our dogs and I go to
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  Speaker 4: tell her my latest news and she said, I've already
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  Speaker 4: heard it. She has, I know, since the podcast. So
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  Speaker 4: it's like, I feel like I have no conversation topics
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  Speaker 4: whatsoever because it's already known.
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  Speaker 2: That's the beauty of, you know, having a public forum.
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  Speaker 2: What kind of dog is Walter?
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  Speaker 4: Oh? I think he's a whippet.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you would, La Tiff, You would absolutely love to
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  Speaker 5: have a doggie date with Kim and Walter because Walter
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  Speaker 5: is the fastest dog, and obviously you know what that's
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  Speaker 5: all about.
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  Speaker 4: It's amazing. Zoomies are the best fun ever.
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  Speaker 1: Is he like the opposite of your dog?
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  Speaker 4: Hey, my day, served he's got a beard in.
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  Speaker 2: Your Dog's like the philosopher of the canine world. All
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  Speaker 2: he needs is a fucking pipe and a comfy chair.
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  Speaker 2: That little motherfucker could run seminars.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he is so treat driven. I swear he
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  Speaker 4: would recite poetry for a treat?
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  Speaker 1: Really he probably would.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. He jumps through, hoops, literally rolls over, does
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  Speaker 4: all the tricks you can get to do anything for
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  Speaker 4: a treat. It's a bit like me.
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  Speaker 1: I know what you roll over for.
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  Speaker 2: But that's another bloody thing that's not well.
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  Speaker 1: Patrick, tell us about it's tiff.
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  Speaker 2: Please take that out tape for God's sake, Ah fuck it,
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  Speaker 2: leave it in. Patrick, tell us about wherever you want
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  Speaker 2: to go. I'm not even going to direct you today.
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  Speaker 2: So if you've never heard this show, folks, apologies, apologies.
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  Speaker 2: This is the we come under the banner of tech chat,
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  Speaker 2: and sometimes we even do that.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, yeah, I imagine. Look, digital cameras have a
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  Speaker 4: really like they're really good. Now, if you get the
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  Speaker 4: top of the range iPhone or a Pixel or a Samsung,
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  Speaker 4: you can take pretty damn decent photographs with it. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's it's pretty good. But wait for this. Imagine if
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  Speaker 4: you had three hundred phone cameras and you could take
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  Speaker 4: a photo so with all three hundred at once, how
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  Speaker 4: good would that be?
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  Speaker 2: Grego, I don't understand how what Okay, Well I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to go with yeah, great match.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to expand on that or is
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  Speaker 1: that it.
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  Speaker 4: No, there's a new observatory that's opening in Chile and
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  Speaker 4: it's going to have the processing power. It's a massive
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  Speaker 4: observatory and it means the night sky will have phenomenal
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  Speaker 4: photographs taken of it as of next year, and they'll
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  Speaker 4: take about one thousand photos every night over ten years.
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  Speaker 4: This is just a short term project. It's just so
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  Speaker 4: kind of exciting because we're talking about discovering seventeen billion
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  Speaker 4: stars and twenty billion galaxies and effectively it's got the resolution,
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  Speaker 4: so the quality of the photographs is the equivalent of
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  Speaker 4: three hundred mobile phones.
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  Speaker 1: Well that is I'm not that excited about that.
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  Speaker 2: But if Brian Cox is listening, he'll be He'll be
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  Speaker 2: firming up around the front of his tidy whities heat
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  Speaker 2: he's oh God, have you ever seen Brian Cox?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I have seen him. I only understood about half of
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  Speaker 4: what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Like, have you you right, Tiff?
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  Speaker 4: I saw him.
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  Speaker 2: I went and saw him live in Brisbane with my
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  Speaker 2: friend doctor Alex. So I was watching one of the
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  Speaker 2: smartest people in the world talk while living sitting next
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  Speaker 2: to maybe the smartest person I know the neurosurgeon, and
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  Speaker 2: it's fair to say that I was, like you, Tiff,
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  Speaker 2: I needed to him to interpret a little bit me
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  Speaker 2: and the cosmos and the universe. And it doesn't really
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  Speaker 2: blow my mind, like the way I'm more interested in humans.
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  Speaker 2: But but it is. It is fascinating.
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  Speaker 4: But you delve into the cosmos that's inside a person's skull.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I like that.
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  Speaker 2: The inner cosmos, the inner world. Wow, that's true. That
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  Speaker 2: could be the name of my next book, the Inner Cosmos.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, take that out, Jiff, take that out.
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  Speaker 4: He uses that. I'm going to be so annoyed.
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  Speaker 1: The inner cosmos.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, stood, he going, how's all that research going? Are
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  Speaker 4: you getting close to the end or something?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I am, I am, I am, I am.
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  Speaker 2: I don't sound I'm not excited, but I'm excited, but
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  Speaker 2: I'm not excited.
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  Speaker 3: So last night I said an answer or a positive affirmation.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want to bore people with it, right, but yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm getting close to the end. So all the all
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  Speaker 2: of research that I need to do has been done
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  Speaker 2: or the data has been collected, all the academic milestones.
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  Speaker 2: Standing in front of the board, which is four of
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  Speaker 2: them and presenting research and kind of justifying your place
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  Speaker 2: in the program, and all that's been done and ticked off,
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  Speaker 2: and so now I have to have to write a
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  Speaker 2: minimum of two, preferably three papers, which I'm writing two
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  Speaker 2: of them as we speak, and also an eighty thousand
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  Speaker 2: worth thesis. But my biggest, my biggest paper is called
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  Speaker 2: a systematic literature review looking at meta accuracy and metaperception.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to bore you anymore, but.
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  Speaker 2: It's just it's like a PhD is infinitely harder than
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  Speaker 2: my job.
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  Speaker 4: Like, how's your new research study going?
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  Speaker 1: You're what?
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  Speaker 4: I fell asleep?
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  Speaker 1: Ah?
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  Speaker 3: Fuck?
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  Speaker 2: I hell see, This is why I don't talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even blame you for falling asleep. Sometimes I
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  Speaker 2: fall asleep and it's my own shit. It actually is
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  Speaker 2: really interesting.
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  Speaker 4: I got to say, medical, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Look at him try and fucking redeem himself now, Tiff.
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  Speaker 4: But if I could get away with a cheap shot,
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  Speaker 4: I always will. You know, I love you.
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  Speaker 1: Keep going?
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  Speaker 4: But how much time? No, seriously, I really did want
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  Speaker 4: to know how much longer you've got to do?
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  Speaker 1: You don't hours?
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  Speaker 4: Minutes?
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  Speaker 2: Like okay, so we're recording this November one. I hope
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  Speaker 2: to hand in all of my stuff in about four months,
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  Speaker 2: like hand it or god ah. And then but in
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  Speaker 2: order for me to get my PHDW, I need to
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  Speaker 2: have have had one paper published at least.
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  Speaker 1: So even if I finish everything and submit everything.
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  Speaker 2: But even when you submit a paper, they don't go yet,
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  Speaker 2: well done, we'll publish it. It can take months for
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  Speaker 2: them to even look at it. In fact, it generally does,
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  Speaker 2: and then often the answer will be no, we're not
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  Speaker 2: publishing it, or the answer might be.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe, but you need to review this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: So annoying is that Japanese scientist who's been releasing like
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  Speaker 4: a thousand papers a year and publishing. Did you heard
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  Speaker 4: about that, didn't you? The guy who found who has
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  Speaker 4: found out to be using like chap GPT and right publishing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean to get a paper published.
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  Speaker 2: It's I don't know that that story, but I know
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  Speaker 2: the process of getting a paper published by what's called
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  Speaker 2: a tier one journal, science journal. There's that that what thousand.
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  Speaker 1: Papers a year?
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  Speaker 2: It couldn't happen like it's it's knowing the process, it's
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  Speaker 2: it's I mean that's three papers a day. Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: know like to write. One good paper is months of work.
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  Speaker 2: So if he is doing a thousand a year, then
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  Speaker 2: they quite likes somebody who is a like a world
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  Speaker 2: renound researcher and scientist, and somebody who's a leader in
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  Speaker 2: their field.
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  Speaker 1: They might have a couple of hundred papers published.
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  Speaker 4: Well, this guy published two hundred and nineteen scientific papers,
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  Speaker 4: and one hundred and eighty three have now been retracted.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I'm really excited but also quite frustrated in some ways
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  Speaker 4: by the new Bluebird satellites. This sounds exciting because it
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  Speaker 4: means that potentially, so this Texas based company is unfurling
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  Speaker 4: the biggest satellite ever. Like it's massive. It's sixty five
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  Speaker 4: square meters, is how wild thing is. It's going to
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  Speaker 4: be one of the brightest objects in the night sky,
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  Speaker 4: which is a bit of a shame for that talism
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  Speaker 4: it's trying to take pictures of the night sky because
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  Speaker 4: all that shit's going to get in the way. So
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  Speaker 4: the good thing, though, is that there's a lot now
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  Speaker 4: a lot more low earth orbit satellites that are going
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  Speaker 4: to mean that we can use normal telephones, not satellite phones,
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  Speaker 4: normal phones to potentially send text messages, make emergency calls,
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  Speaker 4: all that sort of stuff. And as somebody who lives
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  Speaker 4: in a rural area driving through the country or have
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  Speaker 4: so many black spots and now three G being turned
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  Speaker 4: off right across Australia, there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 4: more people who potentially may not have phone access. So
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  Speaker 4: if you break down then you could be potentially in
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  Speaker 4: trouble if it's on a far back road that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: have a lot of traffic. So it's great that there's
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  Speaker 4: now going to be a lot more of these satellites
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  Speaker 4: able to connect us using normal phones. So in the
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  Speaker 4: past the satellite phone, you know, I ridium satellite phone,
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  Speaker 4: which would cost a fortune, but now it looks like
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  Speaker 4: more of us will be able to get access using
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  Speaker 4: just everyday phones. And in fact, sorry, I was going
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  Speaker 4: to say, is there a lot of areas in Australia
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  Speaker 4: that don't have.
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  Speaker 1: Coverage that like, I don't know what I would have thought.
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  Speaker 4: These go on like minutes five minutes I drive down
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  Speaker 4: the highway towards Ballarat. In the first five minutes I
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  Speaker 4: lose phone coverage. Really, yes, yeah, for how long I
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  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe another five minutes, So potentially that's a
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  Speaker 4: few k's if I'm going at one hundred and ten.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, at my small humble shack on the peninsula. And
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  Speaker 2: I mean that literally everyone, I'm not being it's got
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  Speaker 2: there's no internet, there's no and no, well there's internet,
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  Speaker 2: there's no phone service.
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  Speaker 1: I have to get out of the house.
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  Speaker 2: And walk up the top of the block, which is
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  Speaker 2: uphill to get one bar.
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  Speaker 1: Don't even start.
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  Speaker 2: Don't even start and back to Brian Cox laughing like
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  Speaker 2: a fucking four year old.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's right. It's great that you know it doesn't
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  Speaker 4: take long for you to get one bar.
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  Speaker 3: Fu.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. So Starlink is the other one. So there's the
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  Speaker 4: other option at the moment for getting access and this
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  Speaker 4: is kind of it. Can you do a lot of
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  Speaker 4: plane travel, like you fly around a lot?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Space has now teamed up with Boeing and they did
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  Speaker 4: their first ever Boeing Triple seven flight where they had
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  Speaker 4: full data on the plane, so you could use your
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  Speaker 4: phone and have full data access. They're talking about making
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  Speaker 4: it free and this is no hard in London, so
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  Speaker 4: someone who but that would be good for productivity for
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  Speaker 4: streaming Netflix or whatever it happens that you're doing at
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  Speaker 4: the time. But that's kind of good if you're flying
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  Speaker 4: around that you can get unlimited access.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if that you would think that within a
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  Speaker 2: period of time that would be normal where all kind
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  Speaker 2: of you know, you'll have internet anywhere. This is an
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  Speaker 2: irrelevant question. Well, it's kind of in the ballpark. You
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  Speaker 2: know how when you get on a plane, you've got
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  Speaker 2: to turn your phone off, right because it could interfere
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  Speaker 2: with your electronics or something. Allegedly, what's meant to be
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this, but what's the
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  Speaker 2: alleged reason for that?
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  Speaker 4: I think I actually asked someone smart than me about this,
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  Speaker 4: which means I could ask a lot of people, but
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  Speaker 4: I have someone about this. And it's not so much
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  Speaker 4: one phone being on. It's if a whole lot of
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  Speaker 4: phones were on, is my understanding. So if everybody had
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  Speaker 4: their phones on at the same time, that's where it
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  Speaker 4: potentially might cause problems. But I don't know that one
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  Speaker 4: single phone is going to make any difference at all.
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  Speaker 2: It seems weird though, that if that if that was
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  Speaker 2: the case, where that could potentially cause a catastrophic problem,
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  Speaker 2: I wouldn't think you'd even be allowed to bring a
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  Speaker 2: phone on a plane.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly the other. It just occurred to me though. Maybe
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  Speaker 4: you know, when you're flying or flying when you go
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  Speaker 4: anywhere with your phone, your phone tries to connect to
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  Speaker 4: a cell phone tower. And one of the problems that's
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  Speaker 4: happening in big cities, So there are potentially you could
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  Speaker 4: be in the center of Melbourne has total coverage, but
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  Speaker 4: you may not be able to make a phone call
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  Speaker 4: because the particular cell tower that you're linked to might
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  Speaker 4: have requests at the same time. So each micro cell tower,
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  Speaker 4: because in lots of big cities they have little micro
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  Speaker 4: cells and they may only have a capacity. We'll say,
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  Speaker 4: I'm just randomly saying one hundred phone connections at any
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  Speaker 4: given time, So if you happen to be one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and one, you might not be able to make a
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  Speaker 4: phone call. So if the technology, in terms of what's
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  Speaker 4: happening whilst you're flying in your phone's making signal requests
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  Speaker 4: constantly trying to link up to say satellites or ground
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  Speaker 4: stations or whatever it happens to be, maybe that's what
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  Speaker 4: the problem is too. I don't know, I'm theorizing.
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  Speaker 1: It could be.
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  Speaker 2: Now I've heard that you're getting rid of all your
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  Speaker 2: movie discs. What is so does that mean all your
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  Speaker 2: DVDs and Blu ray and what is that about? Why
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  Speaker 2: are you doing that?
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  Speaker 4: I have a whole wall full of I think at
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  Speaker 4: last count, I had one thousand movies I purchased over many, many,
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  Speaker 4: many many years. And the thing is the reality of
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  Speaker 4: it is, y I can walk.
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  Speaker 2: I like how you used air quotes when you said purchased,
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  Speaker 2: and then you winked at us.
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  Speaker 4: What I didn't do anything of this sort of sep ha.
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  Speaker 2: No no, or Patrick, hey everyone, Patrick purchased them.
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  Speaker 4: I did buy them. In fact, I don't even want
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  Speaker 4: to think about how much money on them over the years.
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  Speaker 4: But the reality of it is that, if you you know,
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  Speaker 4: the other day, I wanted to watch a movie on
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  Speaker 4: a streaming service and I thought, oh, crap, I haven't
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  Speaker 4: got my Blu Ray connected. Because I've set up a
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  Speaker 4: new stereo upstairs and a new TV set up and
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  Speaker 4: speakers and everything. I thought, I've got no way to
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  Speaker 4: play Blu Rays and I've got a thousand of them
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  Speaker 4: sitting in a bookshelf. I thought, well, yeah, it's a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a pain, but there's some really really good
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: tech out there now. They're called nash drives effectively, really
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  Speaker 4: big hard drives that will also retain the same quality
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  Speaker 4: of the DVD or Blu Ray because one of the
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  Speaker 4: things I've always liked. I don't know if you ever
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  Speaker 4: do this, TIF if you ever watch a Blu Ray
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: and then you look at the director's cut or you
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: look at interviews and all the other you know, you
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: don't do it.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Any ever doesn't even know what Blu Ray is. It's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: twenty years younger than you.
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: Okay, at Craigo, have you ever done that? Am I
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: the only person that looks at the extra features on
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: tvds and Blue Ray? Yes?
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: You are the only person in Australia.
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: And by the way, why.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: The fuck do you have a thousand Blu Ray videos movies?
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: Because I bought a lot of this before streaming. You know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: why did your voice just go up nine octaves? Because
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I like rewatching movies. I have favorite movies. I just
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: happened to have a thousand. I don't know for each.
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: One of those cost you twenty bucks. Dude, that's a lot.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: That's a big investments.
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: Thirty five Yeah, nearly, No, not necessarily. I did go
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: through a three D phase where I love watching three
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: D movies, and I had a three D TV and
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: I had my three D glasses. Unfortunately, I was probably
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: the person on the planet, so that kind of went
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: out the door.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: But no, you're not eyed one of those as well.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: I had a real data projection TV.
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: That they were giant, They were enormous. It was it's
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: turned on its side.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: There was a fucking hyunda with a screen on it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: It was just stupid. It was the biggest thing ever.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: But when you're wearing those dumb talk about throwing myself
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: under the bus. But when you're wearing those dumb, very
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: ineffective three D glasses, you needed to sit in a
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: certain spot otherwise it was like you're on acid.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: It was like, can I defend three D just for
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: a second here? I know I'm nerding out massively.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Can I just say that you and I went to
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: a movie to watch three D What was that called again?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: That was the second Avatar film? And you held my
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: hand for most of it. No, that was pretty cool.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Come on, you got to admit you do well. You
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: do have nice hands, and you say hand right cox
• 19:53
  Speaker 6: the a smart scientist.
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: Yes, oh dear, I believe I've totally lost track of
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: what we're talking about.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: No, we saw avat three D three D, So you're
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: talking about you love your love affair with three D.
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: Now, what's really exciting about three D is and particularly
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you raised that because Avatar James Cameron, the
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: director of the First Avatar and Second Avatar, he was
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: really passionate. He is really passionate about three DS, so
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: he developed three D cameras. So the way we see
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: stereoscopically is we have two eyes, so if you look
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: at something, you're getting two different perspectives, and that's what
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: generates in your brain the three D depth perception. Because
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: if you walk around with an eye patch on, you're
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: more likely to bump into shit because you don't get
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: depth perception. You need to reach your glass and you
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: miss it. You know, not quite that bad, but so
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: the reality of it is you need two eyes to
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: see in full three D depth perception. So if you're
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: watching a movie and it's been shot with a three
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: D camera, then it's giving you true three D depth
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: perception because it's got two lenses. But the way the
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: movie industry kind of cheapened the whole process when the
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: whole three D revolution began was they simulated three D,
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: so they took a two D picture of Craig and
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: they extracted you from the background and gave a bit
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: of a three D effect and not unlike the crappy
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: background you've got right now, you know, because when you
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: turn your head half your head disappears, you know, when
• 21:21
  Speaker 4: you're using a zoom filter and it looks like crap,
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: and you know, the background keeps shifting and your eyes
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: disappear and your microphone isn't visible. That's because you're using
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: technology to fake the background. What It's true. Everyone's been
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: stunned into silence as the call dropped out. But he's
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: just chilling on his head.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I've never seen.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: I'm just going to let you fucking hang in that
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: and you reckon, you reckon.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: My review of my PhD was bad.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you're not a fan of my my what
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: do you call this virtual background?
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: You're not a fan of that?
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: No, I just I don't know. I know you've forced
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: Tiff to blur out her background.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Tiff did that and said, what do
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: you think I went?
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Good?
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: I forced Tiff. Yeah, I put a gun to a
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: head and said blur your background. What do you two
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: talk about before I get on the call?
• 22:27
  Speaker 4: Recorded? You could always go back and have a listen.
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: Won't be good for his self esteem? Probably Patricks some
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: really harsh stuff on.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: Well hasn't really changed, has it. Just because I'm me
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean I don't have feelings. You know you too,
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: that kid, the fat kid that didn't get picked, He's
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: still there.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: So you just need to That's what I'm trying to
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: get your to get yourself an emotional support dog.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I just need.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Friends that give me a bit of emotional support.
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the right people.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a labrador, not you two fucking chihwah wads. Yeah.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Anyway, So this Revolution Player one is the big hard
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: drive in the sky. It's not really in the sky.
• 23:18
  Speaker 4: It sits on your shelf, but you can digitize all
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: of your movies and put them on there, and it's massive.
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: I think that I was looking at the review on
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: this thing, and I'm not kind of pushing any particular
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: brand or anything like that, but it's it's it's pretty
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: cool because they can fit like thousands of movies onto
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: just the one device, and you can just kind of
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: flick a switch and off it goes. So I just thought,
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know. If you're looking to buy yourself a
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: present for Christmas, and you like rewatching movies, but do
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: you rewatch movies? Tiff? You do you have kind of
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: favorites that you rewatch.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I just watched Jerny Dancy every time I want
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: to watch a movie, Wow.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: And I've watched the Back to the Future trilogy about
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: collectively fifty times, the three of them.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Blu Ray was only around for about ten minutes. Why
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: do you have so many?
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Well, because I may have rebought some movies to get
• 24:19
  Speaker 4: higher quality out of it, you know, like The Lord
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: of the Rings. I think I bought the DVD version
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: and then the Blu ray came out with extra scenes
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: and all that sort of stuff. So I then rebought
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: a few movies, you know, sci fi films that need
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the big cinelar experience.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I don't understand it all. Why you're single. I don't
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: Single. I have a dog.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Tell me about if you would tell me about Boeing's
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: laser weapon five killer, what laser weapon that can take
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: down heavy drones?
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Don't you reckon? That's just fully on, full on, because
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't like talking about warfare much, but
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: a laser I feel like I need to do air
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: quotes for that, But a laser that can take out
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: multiple drones, because the thing is that the drones and
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: their larger payloads, the bigger the drone, the harder it
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: is to take them out of the sky. So they're
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: talking about a portable and that this is portable too,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: So we're not talking about plugging it into the power
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: grid on your three phase. We're talking to a laser
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: that could be carried around and it can potentially take
• 25:31
  Speaker 4: out drones as well at rapid fire stuff as well.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: So that just made me think about the potential. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: don't even want to say this, but fuck it, I'll
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: say it. It's like with the ever expanding and evolving
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: capacity of drones. You know, obviously they're being used in
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: warfare already, right, Imagine if some nefarious person wanted to
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: do something to a civilian aeroplane, Like, how do they
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: control for that? We like the Civil Aviation Authority and
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: like that's I mean, that's a horrible thought, but people
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: do horrible shit.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: Look, the thing is you can't even import a green
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: or blue laser into the country, it would be picked
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: up by customs. So importing certain types of lasers you
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: can't unless you have very valid reasons for what you'd
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: use it for. And look, you know it's illegal to
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: actually point a laser pointer into the sky. You know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 4: that's really dumb to do. People do try to do
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: that in point them at planes. So that's why there
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: are restrictions on what you can import into the country
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: unless you've got valid reasons for, say, manufacturing that sort
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: of stuff.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Didn't I just ask you about drones and then you
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: just spoke about lasers.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, because we were talking about lasers that shoot drones.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, all right.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: No, I was thinking, well, obviously there are there are
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: there are drones equipped with missiles and you know, things
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: that can blow shit up, right.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you could, I mean the larger drones. Well,
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: in Australia we have restrictions on the purchasing and flying
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: of drones. So if if you wanted to get a
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: drone that had a payload capacity that could carry something,
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: then there's pretty big restrictions. You have to have a
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: license and be registered with KASSO, the Civil Aviation Safety Authority,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: so right own I fly, for example, is less than
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: two kilos in waits I could have say I had
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: a bit of fun. I went out the Geelong the
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: other day to fly my drone for a client that
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: does as best as removal near the old Ford factory,
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: and the client sent out the invitation to me to
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: go and meet him, and the location was sexy Land,
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: and of course, me being the childish person that I was,
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: there's a giant chimney stack right next to it, so
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: my opening shot was panning up this giant chimney to
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: reveal sexy Land in the background. Sorry, that was really childish,
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: but it was fun.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Well hang on, why were you meeting him at sexy Land.
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: No, because the building was owned by the sexy Land
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: Company and they were they'd vacated so that the asbestos
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: roofing could be taken off and repurposed. A lot of
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: those buildings along the dock area there in North Geelong
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: have been amazingly changed. They had old mills and things,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: and now they've got vintage stores and cafes. I was
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: super impressed. If you're looking for a day trip, go
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: to Geelong and check out all these amazing old buildings
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: that have been repurposed for interesting shopping and in sexy
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: la Indevidently Geelong's has evolved.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: A lot in the last decade or so. It's a
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: bit of a metropolis now.
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really nice place. I lived there for a while.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: When I first moved out of home, I went on,
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: did you for those people who don't know Geelong? It's
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: the second largest city in Victoria, following Melbourne. Pretty big plane. Yeah,
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: well we have.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: We have listeners from all over the world who are gone,
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: where the fuck is Geelong?
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well they probably know where Melbourne is. So
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: it's a fair bed that an hour away from Melbourne
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: along down the road. Yeah, yes, just down the road.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: And I've got cousins in Europe who think that Australia
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: is too far to come to, but ask me every
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: time when I'm going to be there next, because it's
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: further for them to come here than it is for
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: me to go there. As Astragans, we're so used to
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: traveling for a shit ton of time, aren't we. You know,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I when you're on a plane and you're flying to
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: Europe or something and you think, oh man, we've been
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: going for so long I wonder how far we've gone
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: and you haven't even crossed the country yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: but no, it's it's kind of look. I I think
• 29:55
  Speaker 4: that all these new innovations with travel and hopeful, I mean,
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: my big dream is that hypersonic travel will be happening soon.
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: To buy hypersonic travel so you can get to like,
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: you know, Melbourne to New York and I don't know,
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: three or four hours, wouldn't they be?
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: How far away?
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: Is? Yeah, there's another one hypersonic there was I was
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: reading something the other day about another.
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: What's above hypersonic?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Is it where they get like into the out of
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: the stratosphere?
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I guess so they go kind of up,
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: let the earth rotate underneath them and then yeah, I
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: think it.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Was like one hour from New York to London or
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: something crazy that they're talking about testing flights next year.
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: But yeah, supersonic would be what.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: Would that What do you reckon that's going to reduce
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Melbourne to LA because Melbourne to LA now is like
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: fourteen hours, right.
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, supersonic is when you're just over the speed
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: of sound. That was the like concord flu supersonic hypothes
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Next level up right, Yeah, what.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: A pity, that's that concord fucking hit the hit the
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: wall metaphorically.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was. I saw that, and I didn't see
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: it actually happened, but I was working in news and
• 31:12
  Speaker 4: saw all the because it was it was video. You know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: you saw it break apart. It was pretty pretty full long,
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: wasn't it. Did you do you remember that? Craigo?
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: I remember, and I remember that because I wanted to
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: fly in the concord like that was one of the
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: things that I wanted to do when I could afford it,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: and then not anymore. Well, could do you imagine, I mean,
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: without boring everyone, but imagine this like something that's flying supersonically.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Imagine how well engineered and built that thing needs to be,
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: and imagine the immense pressure and stress on everything.
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Well that I always found it fascinating that the pilots
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: couldn't see out the front of the plane when it
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: was flying supersonic, So what.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: Were they just looking at screens and flying by?
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: The nose used to come up, remember when it was parked,
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: and those would drop down for landing, and then it
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: would come up so that it was more streamlined. That
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: was so cool.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: That's like me seeded versus running. My nose goes up
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: when I start running.
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: You knows, Okay, Brian, all right, keep going.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Tell us about how looking at our dog can connect
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: our brain with theirs, because this feels like a you
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: and Tiff subject.
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: It kind of is, I suppose, so when we have
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: a conversation, So if you and I have a conversation,
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: you start to visualize. So I talked about sexy land
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: and a giant chimney, and that connects our brains. And
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: what science has realized and you probably know a little
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: bit about this, our brains become in sync because there
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: are different processing parts of our brains, say for linguistics, thought, concept, imagination.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: So we can get into sync with human beings. And
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: it was thought that we couldn't do this with animals.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Now it's believed we can with dogs. And when we
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: talked to a dog and we look them in the eye,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: they've used magnetic imaging and so they've scanned the brain
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: of a human scanned the brain of a dog, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: they realize that we can connect on a level where
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: our brains can be firing in a similar way. And
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: pet owners that are in sync literally with their dogs
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: can synchronize their brain activity at the same time, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: I thought that was really interesting.
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: I have so many questions about that. How does that,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: what's the what's the consequence of that?
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Like, what do we see when these too, this human
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: and canine brain are in sync.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: What happens?
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: Well, I guess it brings the connection between the human
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: and the dog on a deeper level. I mean, this
• 33:43
  Speaker 4: was researched in China, so it's called neural coupling. Okay,
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: So what's exciting about this is it's never been observed
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: within spec different species before. So the brain activity aligns
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: during this interaction. Because for us we talk it through.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: We can have so many different ways to communicate, but
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: with dogs, it's that eye contact and then trying to synchronize.
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: So I mean in terms of it's good for you know,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: an encounter or a way that we interact with our
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: pets as well, it takes it to a deeper level
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: of connectedness. And if look, if if you've really loved
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: a dog, or you kind of like walking a dog,
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: and you like padding dogs and connecting with an animal
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: because they do value add our lives so much. And
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: I guess only people who've had dog, dogs or a
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: cat can really conceptionalize what that means and implications for
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: people as they get older and this, you know, they
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: need company that've lost a partner. I think the notion
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: that we can connect on that level scientifically is kind
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: of fun. It's I mean, what the implications are. I
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: mean for training, it's important. So if you're cleaning your dog,
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: it may assist in you being able to kind of
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: get on the same sink and level with the dog
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: while you're doing that training. So it's kind of getting
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: their focus on a more higher level and then being
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: able to use that to be able to further train
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: the dog. So what are the real implications. I don't know.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: I have a nice story for you. Sorry, Tiff, then
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: you jump in. I have a nice story for you
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: that you both love. So yesterday, because my algorithm is
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: all thanks to Tiff and a few other people. My
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: algorithms fucking dogs and or motorbikes and or bodybuilders and
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: or science.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's not much else.
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: So yesterday this video came up and it was this
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: lady who she had this German shepherd that was like
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: four or five years old. That was her puppy and
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: all and it just all of a sudden, the dog
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: started getting She could tell the dog was distressed, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the dog would come up and just push her nose
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: between the ladies breasts, so just put her and she
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: was she would whenever she would lie down, the dog
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: would go up and just put her head on the
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: chest and like push her. And she knew that something
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: was wrong and she ignored it. And after about a
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: week of this, she so she thought there was something
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: wrong with the vet. Took the dog to the vet.
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: Everything's fine, and then she went, maybe she's trying to
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: tell me something. So she went, and you know what
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: I'm going to say. So she went to the doctor
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: and she had stage three lung cancer. And the dog
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: could smell the cancer, and the dog knew something was wrong.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And she got treated and is okay now. But if
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: not for the dog, because she had no symptoms, she
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: was asymptomatic. Isn't like, I don't know how the fuck works,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: But how how fucking amazing is that not only could
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: the dog smell the cancer, but she knew the dog
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: knew that it was bad like the dog. The dog
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: was concerned and anxious. It wasn't just like, ah, there's
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: another smell. It's like, no, this is not a good smell.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And as a result of the dog doing that, it
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: literally saved her mum's life, or her owner's life, whatever you.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Want to call it. So I thought that was fucking gorgeous.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: It's amazing. You sent me a video clip this week
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: and I started crying.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I told you, I cried.
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: Why would you do that? My colleague looks a bit
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: like Hagrid. He's like six foot four, big and hairy.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: And here a shout out to Hagrid.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah it, And here am I sniffling at my computer
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: because you sent me a whole lot of dog clips
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: of really beautiful dog omen.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Oh that guy that I said, did I send that
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: to you? Tiff? There's that guy.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: He's a is a vet, and he's just a beautiful man.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: He's just a beautiful human and he's like, I mean, like,
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I think some people be come vets because it's a
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: good career and they're doing a good thing. And I
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: would assume most vets somewhere between like and love animals,
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: but some people that's like, no, animals are their purpose
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: and it's like they just happen to become a vet
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: because they want to look after animals when they're at
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the most vulnerable. And that guy, he's like the Mother
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: Teresa or the bloody Dellai Lama of animals.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: He's a great guy.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was pretty good, you know. Getting back to
• 38:27
  Speaker 4: this story. I was just thinking that one of the
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: things that's been proven with animals and human behavior is
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: people on the autism spectrum. So people are able to
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: interact on a level that they may not necessarily be
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: able to interact with humans, but they can get a
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: real sense of connectedness and comfort from an animal. And
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: that's the symbiosis. I mean, it's been what twenty thousand
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: years or something. I don't know how long we've had
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: domesticated dogs, but certainly they've been acting opanions and guardians
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: and emotional support for such a long time.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And isn't it amazing when you think that all
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: dogs came from wolves and they look at you look
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: at them now.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: You look at the fucking the massive cross section of
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: fluffy white things just prancing down the Hampton Street like
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: little fucking show ponies. And then and then.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Saint Bernards and Rottwiler's And if I feel I cut
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: you off before. Were you going to say something when
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: I started telling my story about the vet when we.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: Were talking about the eye contact with the dogs. We
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: did a practice of that on the Himalayas. I don't
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: know if I told you Patrick where we did. I
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: think that they called it transfiguration, if that's right. It
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: was just five minutes sitting face to face with someone.
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: We did it verse thirty five minutes in total, because
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: there were seven of us just sitting and just staring
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: into the eyes of the other person, and it was
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: really really energetically profound, and you know, I don't know
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: what's happening, but you connect and you go through all
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: these different energy shifts and people ended up in tears
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and it was amazing.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: Did you find that easy to like looking at anything
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: for thirty five minutes and focusing and being present what
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: seemed to be not an easy task or do you
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: kind of lose yourself in it?
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: You lose It was very confronting to start with that.
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: I've done the practice once before at another workshop, but
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: it's I think the challenging part is the allowing yourself
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: to be seen, and we did. After the first couple,
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: we did facilitated ones where person A would energetically be
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: the one holding space or holding the other person and
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: the other person being held, and that was really challenging,
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: especially when you look at male female dynamics and some
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: just people's different experience with those different moments.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: But yeah, the.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: Being seen and the dropping of your guard and the
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: stuff that we knew about the other person because of
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: the conversations we've had before. So there's a lot in that.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Wow, that would take courage, I think, I think for
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: a lot of people, maybe me included. I'm not sure
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: I have never done that. I would think that would
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: be that's a brave thing to do. Imagine if you're
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: sit and you look at someone and you just see
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: fucking evil, You're like, I'm out, Well.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: You see it. You see a lot.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: And I remember at the first workshop I ever did at,
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: which was MICHAELA. Bome. She was a guest I'd had
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: on the show and she does embodiment and the whole
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: range of stuff. But there were parts to that exercise
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: where we would have to report to the other person
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: with boundaries, with instructions about what we saw and so
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: you and it was interesting what people complete strangers could
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: feel or see in you amazing.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: How did you go with that?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: That would to me that that's interesting that you because
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: you know, you've been quite protective and quite you know,
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: like I always say that T shirt that says give
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: me a hug and the cap that says fuck off.
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, how how was that for you?
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Well, I could feel the embodiment of the practice of
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: trust to let go and just go okay, I'm going
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: to let you see me and I'm going to be
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: okay with that, and I'll let you see whatever you
• 42:32
  Speaker 3: see and not control it. It's you go really deep
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: within yourself in a way that I don't think I
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: would normally have had access to. So yeah, it was.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: It was confronting and what's the real.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is curiosity, not judgment. What's
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the reason, Like, what's what's the what's the consequence or
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: potential benefit or outcome?
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I think both in site and connection right for that,
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: like insight and connection and letting guards down. Like I said,
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: when we did the practice this last time, we had
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: the night before shared the deepest parts of our stories
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: with the group, so we knew a lot as well.
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: So it's then, yeah, I don't know for me, it
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: was an act of trust and connection and letting go
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: and being and not controlling and observing what comes up
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: and accepting it.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: It's like a level of It's like a level of
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: intimacy with a stranger, isn't it.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Oh big time.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing I probably didn't tell you
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: after the trip. The morning after we'd shared our stories
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: and then we'd come down and did mindful movements so
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: similar to pilates or yoga, Patrick, your style of movement true,
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: and towards the end of that, and this has happened
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: twice to me before in yoga practices after a significant event.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: But we got towards the end and we were just
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: like moving our spine or whatever, and out of absolutely nowhere.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I got so overwhelmed with emotion that I just ended
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: up lying there sobbing. And then after we left the class,
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: everyone went for breakfast and I just went back to
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: my room for a moment, had.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: A big cry.
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: And then when I often had breakfast, but it was
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: just this like, oh, there wasn't a thought associated with that.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: There's emotion in my body and I've let it come
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: up and I don't know what it is, but cool.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: That's so profound.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that is, isn't it? Well?
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Emotion, Emotion lives in your body, and sometimes your body
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: knows what it needs more than you. Occupier. Isn't that interesting?
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Shift your You can move parts of your body and
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: release it and it just comes up and there's actually
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: no link to the thoughts in your mind. There's no
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: conscious thought so associated to it.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: Yes, which in our bodies so much. And one of
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: the little exercises I like to do when we do
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: our beginning warm ups for our Tai Chiese session is
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: just to do that little exercise of breathing in for
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: four seconds, holding for four then letting go for four
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: and I do that twice that I go six seconds,
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: then eight seconds, and I can look at my pulse
• 45:19
  Speaker 4: rate because I've got my phone, my watch, you know,
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: tracking my heart rate, and I can see it drop.
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: You know that slow breathing, focusing just on your breathing
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: process can actually slow your heart rate right down. And
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: I've observed maybe a five point drop. Now that seems
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: like a lot to me. Crago five points for your
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: heart rate to drop down and be in a state
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: of relaxation.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: There's lots of research, Yeah, that kind of box breathing around,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: activating your parasympathetic nervous system without trying to sound like
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: a geek, which is you know, the calm the farm. Yeah,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: I know, I have white code hypoten you know.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: What that is, right?
• 46:02
  Speaker 4: I haven't, so yeah, and.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: I'm somewhat better now. But my blood pressure would be fine.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: And this is embarrassing because it's a fear response and
• 46:12
  Speaker 2: such a big fucking baby. And I'd go in and
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: my blood pressure would be two million over a million.
• 46:18
  Speaker 6: And they'd go, fucking hell, call the cops quick, you did, yeah, And.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Then I'd go, hang on, just give me a moment,
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: and I just sort of and then it would be normal.
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: They're like what. I go, Yeah, I'm a big baby.
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah, go to the GP. And as soon as they
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: put the cuff on me, they'll start the process. And
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: halfway through, I think, oh, I'm holding my breath. Yes, yes,
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: what the hell? I'm a rational person and yet that
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: is so irrational to see yourself doing that. There was
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: a study that I read, maybe it's a couple of
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: years ago, and they talked about the fight or flight
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: mechanism that we have. So when we get in to
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: a tense situation, may be fearful, our breathing becomes more rapid.
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: We start to breathe quickly. It's shallow breathing as well.
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: There's none of that real depth of breathing. It's that,
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: you know, that real panic kind of breathing. And what
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: they did was they observed people watching horror films and
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: they analyzed what their brain. They took their blood pressure
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: and heart rate and all that sort of stuff, and
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: what they got people to do was at the scariest
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: parts of the movies, they got them to slow down
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: their breathing. And what the research has found was that
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: what your lungs are doing can overwrite your brains fight
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: or flight. So the physiological slow breathing stopped the fear
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: and stopped the fight or flight. So, despite what was
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: on screen. So the next time you go to a
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: horror film, not that I watch them personally, but slow,
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: you're breathing down and you're less likely to be scared.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that you know. I've been talking about this a
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: little bit lately.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Around I started watching this series that somebody recommended to
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: me called The Fall FA Double L The Fall Right,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: and it's about essentially about this mass murderer, this dark, twisted,
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: sick fuck. I watched like two episodes and I realized
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: when I was watching it it made me feel almost sick,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: and I am somewhat anxious, and I'm like, why am
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: I watching this? This is so bad? But a bunch
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: of people would reckon. And I'm not saying people shouldn't
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: watch it. I'm just saying for me, I don't know that.
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: Like I have this thing where I watch things and
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: it's like I almost become intertwined with that thing for
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: an hour or whatever. And I think that just just
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: the way that we you know, we're so careful about
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: what we put in our body in terms of food
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: and drugs and booze and water, and we've got to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: be careful what we put in our mind because that
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: shit has an impact.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: I totally ag. I find there's a new movie that's
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: just come out. I'm not I don't even know what
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: the name is, and I probably wouldn't mention it if
• 49:05
  Speaker 4: I did, but they're saying it's so horrific that people
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: who are going to it are throwing up, Why the
• 49:11
  Speaker 4: hell would you want to subject yourself to that? You know,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: this is the person who likes to play, you know,
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: meditative music and stuff, and I kind of I've even
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: drifted away from conventional TV and I've curated my YouTube
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: channel to watch stuff that makes me feel positive and
• 49:29
  Speaker 4: elated and interesting. So when you go to my channel,
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: there's lots of short movies. I love watching really beautifully
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: produced stuff. There's a really great channel called Dust, and
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: there's amazing sci fi and you know producers out there,
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: people making amazingly creative you know Cinema that's you know,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: three five, ten twenty minute movies that you can watch
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: for free just by subscribing. YouTube's got so much great
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: stuff on it, and I guess the choice to watch
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: something moving or up lifting or a person who's a
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: great passionate vet with dogs that he loves like you
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: sent me the other day. You know, Yeah, it's a
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: good cry. It's an affirmation of the fact that, you know,
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: I came out of that Craygo thinking I love my
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: dog so much. I think I talk about Fritz every episode,
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: don't I.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a show. There's a show on the ABC.
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: I think it is. I've watched it two weeks in
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: a row. Accidentally, I got in bed last night, I
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: just put on the telly and it so happened. So
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: last night was Thursday night. It's called Long Lost Family.
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. And these people that were like the
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: parents and the babies went different for what.
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: A range of reasons.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: And then ah, I'm just snot and tears and emotions
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: and tissues. Shit house, I'm like watching I watched it
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: last night. It's it's I mean for me, but there's
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: lots of crying. But to me it feels like because
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: it's like happy tears. Yeah, but it is funny, isn't it.
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: It's like crying can be like good or bad depending
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: on the reason for the tears, I think.
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: And that comes straight back to TIFF's story. You know
• 51:12
  Speaker 4: that you didn't even know what it was, but it
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: was that letting go that physiological response and crying is good.
• 51:19
  Speaker 4: You know in Western certainly in Australia, blokes don't cry.
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, how dumb is that?
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Well that's that's well, you and I cry, but we're
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: not really our for male.
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: So let's be honest, Patrick, where can people find you
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: and follow you and you know, just reach.
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: Out, have a chat, a cuddle, the hugs cyber cuddle
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: website that they can come over hugs. You should know
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: that I'll give you a hug. Websites now dot do au,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I do give good hugs and I've got to you
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: can you can actually do some taichee with me as
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: well if you go to Taychi at home dot com
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: dot au and you can see Fritz doing ty with
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: me as well. Kind of by the way, just connect
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: give us right mate.
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: And if what if people want to give you a hug?
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Where where's that available?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: At hugsaras dot com, dot are you dot com, tifcook dot.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: Com, forward slash tifcook dot com.
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: We'll say goodbye affair.
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm not sure about that episode. I feel like
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: I was the I was the weak link in that.
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: So everyone, I apologize retrospectively for what you just heard
• 52:30
  Speaker 4: Me too,