Latest / The Skol Hop / Muted Monday and the Biggest Losers of the Vikings Offseason | TSH Ep. 145
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- 0:00Speaker 1: All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome in to another episode
- 0:03Speaker 1: of the Skull Hob. I'm Evan and I'm Austin. There's
- 0:05Speaker 1: a couple of dudes from Iowa. We like drinking beer
- 0:08Speaker 1: and talking about the Viking.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Yeah, we do. And the beer that we drank tonight
- 0:12Speaker 2: was one of the best fall beers ever, even though
- 0:17Speaker 2: it's like the hottest day of the year right now, Man.
- 0:20Speaker 1: Super Good might be like top five beer of all
- 0:22Speaker 1: time for me. We also played a new game, we
- 0:25Speaker 1: called it Muted Monday, and it was pretty funny. You
- 0:27Speaker 1: should check it out.
- 0:28Speaker 2: Yeah you did. You did pretty well at that game,
- 0:30Speaker 2: if I do say so.
- 0:32Speaker 1: I tried.
- 0:33Speaker 2: But we also talked about some of the biggest losers
- 0:36Speaker 2: on the Vikings team after this off season of moves
- 0:40Speaker 2: and scenarios, which was pretty fun to talk about.
- 0:43Speaker 1: And we went off of a list from front of
- 0:44Speaker 1: the show Dustin Baker, an article that he wrote for
- 0:46Speaker 1: Vikings Territory. I may have added a person to his list,
- 0:51Speaker 1: so you'll have to watch to find out who that is.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So before you listen to the rest of
- 0:56Speaker 2: the episode, go ahead and like and subscribe to everything
- 0:58Speaker 2: that we've got here. Leave review. Definitely grab a cold
- 1:02Speaker 2: one and join us for episode one five of the
- 1:05Speaker 2: Skull Hoop Skull.
- 1:39Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna drink some beer today, and I
- 1:42Speaker 1: think this is the third week in a row that
- 1:44Speaker 1: we've got something from Confluence brewing out of Des Moines.
- 1:48Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not mad about it.
- 1:49Speaker 1: I'm not either. I saw this one. Actually, I spent
- 1:52Speaker 1: probably a ridiculous amount of time looking at beer today
- 1:55Speaker 1: picking the beer for this episode. This one caught my eye.
- 1:58Speaker 1: This is east Side attitude. It's a red lagger from Confluence.
- 2:04Speaker 1: They've got a little paragraph here. Should I read it?
- 2:06Speaker 2: Go for it. We didn't read it last time, but
- 2:08Speaker 2: I think I kind of missed it, So go for it.
- 2:10Speaker 1: I'll read it. Yeah, it says the east Side of
- 2:12Speaker 1: Des Moines is a community within a community which is
- 2:15Speaker 1: a historically which is historically an area of blue collar
- 2:19Speaker 1: workers who have developed a strong sense of camaraderie. East
- 2:21Speaker 1: Side pride has long been part of the Des Moines
- 2:24Speaker 1: Metro's lexicon. East Siders are also famous for being among
- 2:28Speaker 1: the first to offer friends and neighbors a hand in
- 2:30Speaker 1: time of need. We've brought this east Side mentality to
- 2:33Speaker 1: a distinctive beer that features a wide variety of malts
- 2:36Speaker 1: for a robust yet smooth flavor. A generous dose of
- 2:39Speaker 1: German hops was added to punch up the east Side attitude.
- 2:42Speaker 1: Like its namesake, this beer is hardworking, unpretentious, neighborly, and
- 2:46Speaker 1: always eager to add excitement to a celebration among friends.
- 2:49Speaker 1: That just gets me excited to try this. Yeah, it
- 2:51Speaker 1: seems good. I don't know much about the east side
- 2:54Speaker 1: of Des Moines me neither a very little time there,
- 2:57Speaker 1: but I'm ant to crack this.
- 2:58Speaker 2: Okay, an art so state fair parking ahead, so maybe
- 3:00Speaker 2: that's where the state Fair is. Red Red Lagger, Red Ale,
- 3:05Speaker 2: Red Lagger, Red Lagger, Red Lagger six point three percent
- 3:09Speaker 2: packs a little bit of a punch. Yeah, somebody is
- 3:13Speaker 2: on summer break, and yeah, I am doesn't have to
- 3:16Speaker 2: wake up and go to work in the morning, although
- 3:18Speaker 2: you you still work over side. I do a lot.
- 3:20Speaker 1: I do have to get up and go in ear
- 3:22Speaker 1: least still oh man, well, part of the life of
- 3:25Speaker 1: a coach. But that's okay. I love the color of
- 3:27Speaker 1: this beer, like this is getting me excited for uh
- 3:31Speaker 1: fall and amber beer season.
- 3:33Speaker 2: I can smell it like we just cracked too open
- 3:36Speaker 2: and poured them. So it's not crazy to think from
- 3:38Speaker 2: a foot or two away, I gotta smell it, like multi,
- 3:42Speaker 2: I'm getting camp fire in you know, sweatshirt weather vibes
- 3:45Speaker 2: right now.
- 3:46Speaker 1: It is certainly not sweatshirt weather. Currently. It's like one
- 3:49Speaker 1: hundred degrees outside. It's still now, why would you It's
- 3:54Speaker 1: because we live in Iowa.
- 3:57Speaker 2: I saw that guy do a video recently on Caitlin Clark.
- 3:59Speaker 2: He's like, well, so if you do this, it's a penalty.
- 4:01Speaker 2: So what would this be a penalty? No? Because anyways,
- 4:05Speaker 2: not to derail anything. This beer does look like fall
- 4:10Speaker 2: in all the best ways. And I'm not mad about
- 4:13Speaker 2: it because I kind of want my brain to be
- 4:15Speaker 2: in Fall right now. If I can't be at the beach,
- 4:17Speaker 2: I want it to be cold out.
- 4:18Speaker 1: So well, let's scold this up. Let's give it a try.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that is delicious.
- 4:32Speaker 2: That is super good, and it truly just transported me
- 4:38Speaker 2: to like mid October, sitting by the bonfire, nice crisp evening,
- 4:45Speaker 2: maybe even watching football. Like man, that's that's that's doing it. Man,
- 4:50Speaker 2: This beer is super good. It's a red pretty clear.
- 4:53Speaker 2: I mean, we can see straight through it. It's got
- 4:55Speaker 2: a dark color, but you can see straight through it
- 4:56Speaker 2: really good head retention. It just smells so good. This
- 5:00Speaker 2: is a full flavored beer.
- 5:02Speaker 1: And yeah, the flavor profile is kind of complex, like
- 5:05Speaker 1: I can't pinpoint everything in it, but there's definitely that multi,
- 5:10Speaker 1: that warm, multi vibe that I like in a beer.
- 5:14Speaker 1: But it's crisp too. There's a good, clean aftertaste to it.
- 5:18Speaker 1: It's good beer.
- 5:19Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just love it good all around. I feel
- 5:23Speaker 2: like you just said it. But Confluence they either just
- 5:25Speaker 2: came out with a whole new slate of beers or
- 5:29Speaker 2: maybe it's just that we finally have easier access to
- 5:33Speaker 2: it at our favorite Devil's Glenn hy Vee. Did you
- 5:35Speaker 2: see Front of the show Jim today?
- 5:36Speaker 1: Though I actually did not go to Devil's Glenn went store.
- 5:40Speaker 1: I went to the other store, oh man, but I
- 5:44Speaker 1: do live a little closer and I had to go
- 5:45Speaker 1: to the bank, which was on my way, so like
- 5:48Speaker 1: I was just trying to, you know, kill two birds
- 5:50Speaker 1: with one stone, all right. Well, but they still had
- 5:54Speaker 1: a good selection of Iowa craft beer.
- 5:56Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is like I was about to say,
- 5:58Speaker 2: this seems like one of those newer slate of beers
- 6:02Speaker 2: from Confluence. That. I mean, we've proven it. You know,
- 6:05Speaker 2: we've had them now what three straight episodes, and they've
- 6:09Speaker 2: all been home runs. They've all been really good. So yeah,
- 6:12Speaker 2: good thanks for bringing this.
- 6:13Speaker 1: It was delicious.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Thank you Confluence for making a great beer.
- 6:15Speaker 1: Good stuff. All Right, we're gonna play a game. Are
- 6:18Speaker 1: you ready for this?
- 6:19Speaker 2: Like saw? Not quite like that, of course, I see saw.
- 6:23Speaker 1: We are going to play a game called Muted Monday,
- 6:26Speaker 1: which is kind of funny because today is not Monday.
- 6:28Speaker 1: But that's okay. We normally record on Monday. So the
- 6:32Speaker 1: game is I've got some headphones here.
- 6:35Speaker 2: Now, I do believe this is a stolen idea.
- 6:39Speaker 1: This isn't Yeah, I stole this from I don't even
- 6:41Speaker 1: know what their name is. Yeah, there's a there's a
- 6:43Speaker 1: group of guys out there. We'll click on this link here,
- 6:48Speaker 1: hang on.
- 6:48Speaker 2: They're very popular.
- 6:50Speaker 1: They are frd I football, okay, whatever, Friday Friday football,
- 6:58Speaker 1: Ferdy Furdy football.
- 7:00Speaker 2: Well, the one guy in there is like Nick d
- 7:02Speaker 2: He like yeah, the recording artic. Yeah.
- 7:06Speaker 1: Anyways, they kind of did like a family feud version
- 7:10Speaker 1: of this where they like they had some more like
- 7:12Speaker 1: trivia based questions, and one person wore headphones and the
- 7:16Speaker 1: other person asked the questions, but you couldn't hear what
- 7:19Speaker 1: the questions were, and then you just had to answer
- 7:21Speaker 1: it based on what you thought they said.
- 7:23Speaker 2: I'm just trying to read lips here, Yeah, okay, yep.
- 7:26Speaker 1: So that's what we're gonna do. I'm gonna give you
- 7:27Speaker 1: these headphones. I'm gonna blast some music so you can't
- 7:30Speaker 1: hear what I'm asking you, and you're gonna give your
- 7:33Speaker 1: best response to whatever I ask you. Are you prepared
- 7:38Speaker 1: for that?
- 7:39Speaker 2: Maybe I just spent more brain power than I should
- 7:42Speaker 2: have figuring out left and right. I'm kind of afraid
- 7:46Speaker 2: of scared, afraid of like a scared jump, scare of
- 7:49Speaker 2: how loud this is gonna be when you first hit.
- 7:51Speaker 1: Do you want me to ease into it a little bit? It?
- 7:53Speaker 1: All right? So we're gonna play. I'm gonna play under Oh.
- 7:59Speaker 1: We both grew up listening to some hardcore scream al
- 8:02Speaker 1: music back in the day, so we're gonna listen to
- 8:05Speaker 1: their only Chasing Safety and album that came out in
- 8:07Speaker 1: two thousand and four by Under.
- 8:09Speaker 2: Oath, very formative album.
- 8:12Speaker 1: So you actually look like a legit podcaster.
- 8:14Speaker 2: Now with the heads, I think the beard kind of
- 8:17Speaker 2: does it. The huskiness kind of does it. I think
- 8:20Speaker 2: I this could be a Halloween costume, especially if you
- 8:23Speaker 2: guys are watching, you'll notice I'm still wearing the JJ
- 8:27Speaker 2: McCarthy jersey, which again, just to say it again, I'm
- 8:30Speaker 2: wearing this until it is announced that JJ McCarthy is
- 8:34Speaker 2: not QB one for the Viking, So it's always a
- 8:37Speaker 2: ticking time bomb on this jersey, and then I'll put
- 8:40Speaker 2: it back on if he ever gets to the job back.
- 8:42Speaker 1: So spoiler alert. You may not know which question it is,
- 8:45Speaker 1: but one of my questions has to do with that. So,
- 8:48Speaker 1: all right, here comes the music. The music is gonna
- 8:50Speaker 1: get loud, So Austin, can't hear me when I talk?
- 8:53Speaker 1: Here you go, I can hear it. Can you hear
- 8:56Speaker 1: me talk?
- 8:57Speaker 2: I can hear you a little bit.
- 8:59Speaker 1: Can you hear me talk?
- 9:00Speaker 2: No?
- 9:01Speaker 1: Okay, it's pretty loud, like I can hear it.
- 9:04Speaker 2: You might bump it up a little bit because I
- 9:06Speaker 2: heard you say it's pretty loud.
- 9:07Speaker 1: That's just that's maxed out. I'm gone.
- 9:09Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, first question for Austin. You're not
- 9:13Speaker 2: prepared at all, who's your.
- 9:15Speaker 1: Favorite Vikings player of all time?
- 9:18Speaker 2: Who's my favorite Vikings player of all time? You know what,
- 9:21Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go back to Kid Austin, say Chris Hovan.
- 9:25Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. Who's the best Vikings coach of all time?
- 9:30Speaker 2: What's the best Vikings blah blah blah blah blah. You
- 9:36Speaker 2: gotta answer it, can you say? Can you say it again?
- 9:39Speaker 1: Who's the best Vikings coach of all time?
- 9:41Speaker 2: Oh Man? All right? Who's the best Vikings quarterback of
- 9:46Speaker 2: all time? We gotta go Frank Targetson.
- 9:49Speaker 1: Okay, here's a good one. If the Vikings could relocate anywhere,
- 9:53Speaker 1: where would they go?
- 9:57Speaker 2: All right? If the Vikings really hate any team? Oh Man? Packers?
- 10:04Speaker 1: Okay? How many super Bowls will the Vikings win in
- 10:08Speaker 1: our lifetime? So?
- 10:12Speaker 2: I think I saw the word super bowls? So how
- 10:14Speaker 2: many super Bowls have the Vikings one? Thanks for rubbing
- 10:18Speaker 2: that in. That's zero?
- 10:20Speaker 1: Who will start at quarterback for the Vikings Week one?
- 10:24Speaker 2: I got you gotta I got nothing. You gotta say
- 10:26Speaker 2: it again?
- 10:27Speaker 1: Who will start at quarterback for the Vikings in Week one?
- 10:31Speaker 2: I still got nothing? But this is the last question, right,
- 10:34Speaker 2: and you alluded to a JJ McCarthy related question. I'm
- 10:38Speaker 2: just gonna say JJ McCarthy.
- 10:42Speaker 1: All right, that was loud. It's kind of loud. My
- 10:47Speaker 1: hearing is probably damaged because I did listen to that music.
- 10:50Speaker 2: Yeah, they sounded nicer than I think than I thought
- 10:54Speaker 2: they would. Pretty good folks.
- 10:56Speaker 1: All right, you want to know the questions I asked you,
- 10:58Speaker 1: Are we.
- 10:59Speaker 2: Doing that or are we doing mine to you? And
- 11:01Speaker 2: then revealing everything.
- 11:02Speaker 1: Let's just reveal yours and then we'll switch and you
- 11:04Speaker 1: can ask me your question. You got the first one.
- 11:08Speaker 1: That was pretty easy. Who's your favorite Vikings player of
- 11:10Speaker 1: all time? Okay, Chris Hoven, you said Chris Hoven. I said,
- 11:14Speaker 1: who's the best Vikings coach of all time? You said Tarkin?
- 11:19Speaker 2: You know he was a coach on the field. There
- 11:21Speaker 2: you go.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Then I said, if the Vikings could relocate anywhere in
- 11:27Speaker 1: the world, where should they go? Oh no, you said Packers.
- 11:31Speaker 2: You know what they own, Lambeau, so we'll take that
- 11:33Speaker 2: Green Bay.
- 11:35Speaker 1: I said, how many Super Bowls will the Vikings win
- 11:38Speaker 1: in our life? Oh no, you said zero?
- 11:42Speaker 2: So I might be right.
- 11:43Speaker 1: That's a Debbie downer. And then who will start at quarterback?
- 11:46Speaker 1: For the Vikings in week one. Okay, you said JJ, but.
- 11:50Speaker 2: I'm wearing the jersey.
- 11:52Speaker 1: All right.
- 11:52Speaker 2: That was fun. I didn't realize how much I would
- 11:57Speaker 2: hate not being able to hear the questions. I maybe
- 12:00Speaker 2: it was a little too over confident in my lip
- 12:02Speaker 2: reading abilities, but uh, yeah, that was fun.
- 12:05Speaker 1: You did pretty well, all right? Yours are a little
- 12:07Speaker 1: bit more trivia based, are they not? Like there's more
- 12:10Speaker 1: like a right or wrong answer?
- 12:11Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not. I wouldn't say they're difficult. I
- 12:14Speaker 2: would say, for the most part, anyone who has a
- 12:17Speaker 2: Vikings podcast should be able to to get these.
- 12:21Speaker 1: All right. Well, here we go. I'm going in all right,
- 12:26Speaker 1: I'm going to switch to a new song. I gotta
- 12:31Speaker 1: get to a loud part.
- 12:32Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get to Can you hear me right now?
- 12:36Speaker 2: Can you hear me at all?
- 12:37Speaker 1: No? I cannot hear you.
- 12:39Speaker 2: I've just moved my lips and pretended to talk there. Okay,
- 12:42Speaker 2: are you ready? Are you you ready? Okay? Question number one?
- 12:47Speaker 2: What gear was? Harrison Smith drafted nineteen ninety You don't
- 12:54Speaker 2: have to yell in the mic. It's okay, that's okay.
- 12:58Speaker 2: Question number two, stadium do the Vikings play.
- 13:01Speaker 1: In something about what team the Vikings played?
- 13:07Speaker 2: What stadium do the Vikings play in.
- 13:13Speaker 1: Minnesota? Okay?
- 13:14Speaker 2: I mean technically sure. Question number three, where did Justin
- 13:19Speaker 2: Jefferson go to college?
- 13:21Speaker 1: Where did Justin Jefferson go to college? He went to LSU?
- 13:24Speaker 2: Okay, all right? Question number four, what number did Dante
- 13:28Speaker 2: Culpeper wear? I'll say it again, what number did Dante
- 13:34Speaker 2: Culpeper wear?
- 13:36Speaker 1: Eleven?
- 13:37Speaker 2: Okay?
- 13:37Speaker 1: All right?
- 13:38Speaker 2: Last question? Name one Hall of Fame Viking.
- 13:43Speaker 1: I need that one again.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Name one Hall of Fame Viking.
- 13:47Speaker 1: Hmm Chris Dolman, all right, all right.
- 13:51Speaker 2: That's it. That's that's always. You did extremely well.
- 13:56Speaker 1: There was there are a few. I'm like, I have
- 13:58Speaker 1: no idea what you're saying.
- 14:00Speaker 2: All right, So the question one, do you remember what
- 14:01Speaker 2: your answer was?
- 14:02Speaker 1: Repeat the question?
- 14:03Speaker 2: It was a year? So do you remember what your answering?
- 14:05Speaker 1: I think I said nineteen ninety did so? It was?
- 14:07Speaker 2: What year was Harrison Smith drafted?
- 14:09Speaker 1: Oh? That's probably like when he was born?
- 14:12Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. Question number two you said Minnesota. I said,
- 14:18Speaker 2: what stadium did the Viking do the Vikings play in? Oh? Okay,
- 14:22Speaker 2: play in Minnesota?
- 14:24Speaker 1: I thought I thought you said what state did the
- 14:27Speaker 1: Vikings play.
- 14:27Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well I guess if I didn't like annunci eight,
- 14:31Speaker 2: you know, I.
- 14:32Speaker 1: Got the stuff part of the start.
- 14:34Speaker 2: That's hard to do.
- 14:35Speaker 1: Uh.
- 14:36Speaker 2: Question number three, you hit the nail on the head.
- 14:38Speaker 2: What where did Justin Jefferson go to college?
- 14:40Speaker 1: I picked up on that one, Yeah, LSU.
- 14:43Speaker 2: Number four, you also hit the nail on the head.
- 14:45Speaker 2: You said eleven.
- 14:46Speaker 1: The question was jersey number for Dante? Yeah?
- 14:49Speaker 2: What number did Dante Culpepper wear? At least for the Vikings?
- 14:51Speaker 2: You could have said like eight for the readers.
- 14:54Speaker 1: And actually his rookie year here wore twelve, and I
- 14:57Speaker 1: have his rookie card out in the display case that
- 14:59Speaker 1: used to be here, and he's wearing twelve in that one.
- 15:01Speaker 2: But you kind of cheated because you're staring at a
- 15:04Speaker 2: signed version of his jersey, which I don't think shows up,
- 15:07Speaker 2: doesn't show up on the on the video here. And
- 15:10Speaker 2: then the last one I think you got as well.
- 15:12Speaker 2: I said, name one Hall of Fame Viking.
- 15:14Speaker 1: I said, Chris Dolman.
- 15:15Speaker 2: I mean, we can pretty but I'm pretty sure maybe
- 15:19Speaker 2: we can get some stat listener to double check that one.
- 15:23Speaker 1: Uh. That was fun, f that was fun, fun, I'm
- 15:25Speaker 1: going to close out of Spotify now so it doesn't
- 15:27Speaker 1: just like randomly like scream O Music Us while we're
- 15:31Speaker 1: recording the podcast.
- 15:33Speaker 2: Now, I got to listen to under Oath for the
- 15:35Speaker 2: next week or two.
- 15:36Speaker 1: You'll be you'll be in the email mood for a while.
- 15:39Speaker 1: It's good stuff. Yeah.
- 15:41Speaker 2: Well, I'm a Vikings fan. I'm always in the email mood.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Well, that might be one we have to pull out
- 15:48Speaker 1: again at some point.
- 15:49Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a good one. I'm glad you found
- 15:51Speaker 2: that clip. It worked out pretty well. Yeah, Evan, speaking
- 15:57Speaker 2: of things working out, the Vikings have had some players
- 16:00Speaker 2: that this offseason did not work out for them very well.
- 16:03Speaker 2: It's true. Front of the Show Dustin Baker on Vikings
- 16:07Speaker 2: Territory dot Com. Well, we'll link to the article we're
- 16:10Speaker 2: about to talk about, but he posted an article a
- 16:13Speaker 2: couple of days ago now basically titled what was the title,
- 16:17Speaker 2: the Vikings.
- 16:19Speaker 1: The biggest Losers of the Vikings Offseason.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Yeah, so he listed I think five players who you
- 16:26Speaker 2: could argue we're the biggest losers of the Vikings offseason.
- 16:32Speaker 2: These are five Vikings players, not just players that no
- 16:35Speaker 2: longer are with the team or could have been with
- 16:37Speaker 2: the team but didn't get signed or draft or whatever.
- 16:39Speaker 2: So I figured we could go down the list and
- 16:42Speaker 2: we can talk about the players Dustin lists off and
- 16:45Speaker 2: then maybe if we could think of any come up
- 16:49Speaker 2: with one or two of our own that maybe, you know,
- 16:52Speaker 2: another guy was a bigger loser in circumstance this offseason.
- 16:57Speaker 2: So I think he I don't know what the order was.
- 17:01Speaker 2: I guess it's been a few days since I read
- 17:03Speaker 2: the article, but it does go five to one. Number
- 17:07Speaker 2: five he lists out as Walter Rouse, offensive tackle Walter Rouse,
- 17:12Speaker 2: and again you've got the article pulled up. I think
- 17:15Speaker 2: he kind of alludes to, like, you know, offensive line
- 17:19Speaker 2: around him is getting healthier. They drafted a tackle. I
- 17:24Speaker 2: think Tiernan has that his name was drafted. They didn't
- 17:29Speaker 2: really do a lot to add to the offensive line room,
- 17:32Speaker 2: but I think just the the health the players getting healthier,
- 17:37Speaker 2: and the one edition kind of make him, you know,
- 17:40Speaker 2: lose his spot a little bit. So Evan, what do
- 17:42Speaker 2: you think about Walter Rouse being on this list of losers.
- 17:45Speaker 1: Yeah, he's probably a big loser. No, he's probably a
- 17:50Speaker 1: really good guy.
- 17:50Speaker 2: But I think he is.
- 17:51Speaker 1: He's just in a tough spot. And I like Dustin's
- 17:56Speaker 1: pretty just like no nonsense approach to writing articles like this.
- 18:00Speaker 1: I'm assuming he wrote this, right. Yeah. He just leads
- 18:05Speaker 1: off this segment of the article by saying Rowse's path
- 18:09Speaker 1: to making the team is actually straightforward. If the Vikings
- 18:12Speaker 1: view him as a guard, he has a much clearer
- 18:14Speaker 1: shot than if they view him as a tackle.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Yeah right, I did forget too until I just read it.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Sorry to cut you off that the Vikings did make
- 18:22Speaker 2: like an offer to and ended up winning the rights
- 18:26Speaker 2: to signing Ryan Vandemark who was a Bill and the
- 18:30Speaker 2: Bills had tendered him or restricted free agents, I don't know,
- 18:34Speaker 2: and then they declined to match whatever the Vikings offered to,
- 18:38Speaker 2: so they did add a tackle other than the guy
- 18:40Speaker 2: they drafted.
- 18:42Speaker 1: So if Rowse is willing to kind of slide over
- 18:44Speaker 1: to guard, he'd be a depth guy. For sure. He
- 18:47Speaker 1: wouldn't start, but it would be some good depth to
- 18:50Speaker 1: add there. But if he's stuck in that tackle position,
- 18:53Speaker 1: he's probably not gonna make the fifty three man roster.
- 18:57Speaker 1: He's gonna be cut and he's either going to be
- 19:00Speaker 1: a practice squad guy or he's gonna find a home
- 19:04Speaker 1: on another team. So yeah, and sometimes that happens. Like
- 19:08Speaker 1: I think he's been with the team for a couple
- 19:10Speaker 1: of seasons now, two or three.
- 19:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I think this will be either his third or
- 19:13Speaker 2: fourth season actually.
- 19:15Speaker 1: Okay, but you know that just that's the way the
- 19:19Speaker 1: business works. You know, these these new guys come in
- 19:22Speaker 1: and they're a little bit better at the position, or
- 19:25Speaker 1: they can slide around to different positions better than you can,
- 19:29Speaker 1: and you just find yourself kind of on the outside
- 19:32Speaker 1: looking in where you were on the inside before. You know.
- 19:35Speaker 1: So tough spot for him to be in. But I
- 19:39Speaker 1: don't know, I'm not super worried about the vikings at
- 19:41Speaker 1: the tackle position. You arguably have one of the best
- 19:44Speaker 1: tandems in left and right tackle with Darri Saw and O'Neil.
- 19:48Speaker 1: If they're both healthy.
- 19:49Speaker 2: That's the kicker.
- 19:51Speaker 1: You've got these like gigantic corner stones of human beings
- 19:57Speaker 1: on the edge, protecting your quarter back and helping with
- 20:02Speaker 1: the run game obviously. So yeah, I don't know. Those
- 20:06Speaker 1: are my thoughts on good old Walter. If he goes,
- 20:11Speaker 1: he goes, if he stays, he stays. I'm not opposed
- 20:13Speaker 1: to him staying by any means, but yeah, I will
- 20:15Speaker 1: I wouldn't be shocked if he goes either.
- 20:17Speaker 2: Yeah, I will say if he makes the roster, that
- 20:22Speaker 2: would kind of make me question the health of O'Neill
- 20:27Speaker 2: or Darris, because, like Dustin says, he's basically a numbers
- 20:33Speaker 2: game guy to lose his spot if if everybody's healthy.
- 20:38Speaker 2: He also Dustin also says, like like you just said,
- 20:43Speaker 2: if he switches to guard, the route to making the
- 20:45Speaker 2: roster gets a lot easier. But even then, the Vikings
- 20:49Speaker 2: are doing okay at guard. I mean they're better at tackle,
- 20:53Speaker 2: but there's still I think I said in a recent
- 20:55Speaker 2: episode offensive line, I'm not worried about it all the
- 20:58Speaker 2: center positions a little if he but outside of the
- 21:02Speaker 2: center position, as long as everyone's healthy, this offensive line
- 21:05Speaker 2: is gonna be good and not one that I think
- 21:07Speaker 2: we'll be complaining about at all, at least not on
- 21:10Speaker 2: a consistent basis. So yeah, I can see why he's
- 21:13Speaker 2: on this list of losers throughout the offseason.
- 21:16Speaker 1: So the next one that Dustin lists off, number four,
- 21:19Speaker 1: he kind of goes in reverse order, so these would
- 21:21Speaker 1: be like not as big of losers. We're getting down
- 21:25Speaker 1: to the biggest loser potentially, But number four on this
- 21:29Speaker 1: list of five going down to one is Levi Drake
- 21:33Speaker 1: Rodriguez LDR, El Presidente, El Presidente, and he's in a
- 21:38Speaker 1: tough spot because Javon Hargrave and Jonathan Allen were both
- 21:44Speaker 1: released in March. But then the Vikings just turned right
- 21:47Speaker 1: around and drafted Caleb Banks and Dominique Orange, and so
- 21:51Speaker 1: your interior defensive line really didn't seem to really skip
- 21:55Speaker 1: a beat at all. I think the only edge that
- 21:58Speaker 1: LDR has is his veterans status. He's been around, he
- 22:03Speaker 1: knows the defense, he's worked in Floras his system for
- 22:06Speaker 1: a little bit.
- 22:07Speaker 2: But even so, but he's another just like Rouse. This
- 22:10Speaker 2: is only gonna be his I think third year. So yeah,
- 22:14Speaker 2: you're a veteran by the time you're hunting your third
- 22:16Speaker 2: year in the NFL.
- 22:17Speaker 1: But that's still we and we know for a fact
- 22:20Speaker 1: that Brian Flores prefers older guys, he prefers those veterans,
- 22:25Speaker 1: and we saw that with why am I blanking on
- 22:28Speaker 1: his name? Edge guy Dallas Turner. Oh yeah, you know,
- 22:33Speaker 1: the first two years he really didn't get a lot
- 22:36Speaker 1: of reps and he's going, well, no, he's going into
- 22:38Speaker 1: a second year. His first season he didn't get a
- 22:40Speaker 1: lot of reps. Am I right in that is he
- 22:44Speaker 1: going into a second year or third year.
- 22:45Speaker 2: This will be the same as JJ McCarthy. This will
- 22:49Speaker 2: be Dallas Turner's third season.
- 22:51Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah, I'm right with what I said. Originally,
- 22:56Speaker 1: the first two seasons that Dallas Turner played, he kind
- 22:59Speaker 1: of sat in the shadow of Andrew Van Ginkle, and I.
- 23:02Speaker 2: Mean the likes to be fair and not's a.
- 23:05Speaker 1: It's a different position and it's a it's a totally
- 23:07Speaker 1: different ballgame in much different caliber of player playing those
- 23:11Speaker 1: positions with like Cashman and Van Ginkle.
- 23:17Speaker 2: Yeah, because Cashman and Van Ginkle or Van Ginkle and
- 23:21Speaker 2: Grenard Dallas Turner's rookie year. It was also those two
- 23:25Speaker 2: guys first year with the Vikings, and both Van Ginkle
- 23:27Speaker 2: and Gernard made the Pro Bowl. I think they both
- 23:29Speaker 2: had ten sacks each plus so it's a little bit
- 23:32Speaker 2: different scenario. But again with Levi Drake Rodriguez, not only
- 23:37Speaker 2: did the Vikings draft in the first and then I
- 23:41Speaker 2: think the Big Citrus he was a third round pick.
- 23:43Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure within the first three rounds the Vikings
- 23:47Speaker 2: drafted two guys at his position. Also, on top of
- 23:50Speaker 2: that you have Jalen Redman kind of exploding. Last year,
- 23:55Speaker 2: somebody vikes Verified tweeted and it was kind of a joke.
- 24:00Speaker 2: They tweeted, you know, Caleb Banks's rookie year stat prediction
- 24:06Speaker 2: thirty three tackles, six sacks, one forced fumble, two fumble recoveries,
- 24:10Speaker 2: sixty two total tackles, twelve tackles for lost, and then
- 24:13Speaker 2: they said, actually, just kidding, those were Jalen Redman's actual
- 24:17Speaker 2: stats from twenty twenty five. Put some respect on him.
- 24:21Speaker 2: So Jalen Redmond alone is making Levi Drake Rodriguez's roster
- 24:27Speaker 2: status a little shaky. And then you have two highly
- 24:30Speaker 2: drafted guys in front of him as well. So yeah,
- 24:34Speaker 2: it's a tough road to battle. But you mentioned Flores
- 24:39Speaker 2: liking the older guys. He also likes a rotation at
- 24:42Speaker 2: defensive tackle and that is a highly injured position as well.
- 24:46Speaker 2: So I wouldn't be, you know, counting LDR out completely,
- 24:52Speaker 2: but the road is pretty steep for him.
- 24:54Speaker 1: And I'd like to give you some kudos for a minute,
- 24:57Speaker 1: because I think you brought it up maybe in our
- 24:59Speaker 1: last episode or two episodes ago, that he might be
- 25:03Speaker 1: one that's kind of on the outside looking in and
- 25:06Speaker 1: could be like a potential cut candidate or a non
- 25:10Speaker 1: fifty three man guy when it comes down to it,
- 25:13Speaker 1: when we get into August and September, yeap So.
- 25:16Speaker 2: And that's just a numbers thing too. I mean the Vikings,
- 25:19Speaker 2: I just named three guys at a position where at
- 25:22Speaker 2: most only two guys are on the field at once.
- 25:25Speaker 2: So I don't know historically how many defensive tackles interior
- 25:30Speaker 2: defensive tackles the Vikings have held on the roster since
- 25:36Speaker 2: really since Flores has been with the team. But I
- 25:39Speaker 2: mean four seems like a high number, and maybe it
- 25:41Speaker 2: is right at four.
- 25:42Speaker 1: You never know, all right, Moving on number three, Ty Felton,
- 25:48Speaker 1: wide receiver, and he's maybe arguably the biggest loser. You
- 25:55Speaker 1: could maybe put him all the way down at number one.
- 25:57Speaker 1: I would agree with because I think coming into the
- 26:00Speaker 1: offseason he was kind of thinking, man, I have a
- 26:03Speaker 1: shot at being the wide receiver. Three. You got lock
- 26:06Speaker 1: set one and two Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, But who
- 26:09Speaker 1: else you got? Everybody else is gone? That's me right,
- 26:14Speaker 1: Like you just kind of follow the breadcrumbs and you
- 26:17Speaker 1: follow the trail, and you're like boom, and then they
- 26:20Speaker 1: go pick up Joan Jennings and that just changes everything.
- 26:23Speaker 1: And Dustin in his article even says that Signing is
- 26:29Speaker 1: possibly the strongest wide receiver three that the Vikings have
- 26:32Speaker 1: had since Jake Red back in the three deep era
- 26:35Speaker 1: with Randy Moss, Chris Carter and Jake Reed. So you
- 26:39Speaker 1: gotta feel a little bit bad for Tye Felton. And again,
- 26:42Speaker 1: I think you could argue that he is the number
- 26:45Speaker 1: one biggest loser on this list, not the number three. Yeah,
- 26:50Speaker 1: because of all that, I think my thoughts with him
- 26:53Speaker 1: are he's really gonna have to prove that he can
- 26:56Speaker 1: function in the return game kick return, punt return, or.
- 27:00Speaker 2: Both, which is tough because Miles Price did and.
- 27:04Speaker 1: Miles Price did really well, so he's got an uphill
- 27:07Speaker 1: battle there too, So I don't know. Again, he could
- 27:11Speaker 1: be one of those guys that's just like, well you're
- 27:15Speaker 1: you're gone, buddy, sorry, and he'll have to find another
- 27:17Speaker 1: opportunity elsewhere.
- 27:19Speaker 2: So I just counted on the Vikings current roster as
- 27:22Speaker 2: of right now, crap, one, two, three, four, they have
- 27:31Speaker 2: thirteen guys listed at the wide position. Now that's July first,
- 27:37Speaker 2: you know, camp, You're gonna some of these guys are
- 27:41Speaker 2: gonna get injured no matter what. Obviously, not all thirteen
- 27:45Speaker 2: are going to make the roster. I just said, I
- 27:47Speaker 2: wasn't sure how many defensive tackles the Vikings historically keep
- 27:51Speaker 2: on the final fifty three. I'm not sure about wide receivers.
- 27:54Speaker 2: It's probably no more than five, four, maybe four or five.
- 27:59Speaker 2: I would think true wide receivers are kept on the roster.
- 28:02Speaker 2: You're talking justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, Juwan Jennings, and then
- 28:09Speaker 2: who is that number four. It's gonna be a tough battle.
- 28:12Speaker 2: I think ty Felton has every chance to win that battle.
- 28:15Speaker 2: But you also have guys like Miles Price, who's a
- 28:18Speaker 2: returner but obviously he's a wide receiver in true form.
- 28:23Speaker 2: Joshawn Jones, who's been a practice squad guy for the
- 28:25Speaker 2: last couple of years. Maybe he's finally turning a turning
- 28:29Speaker 2: a corner here too. So you got basically ten guys
- 28:33Speaker 2: vying for that fourth wide receiver spot, and there might
- 28:37Speaker 2: not be a fifth spot. So yeah, just the fact
- 28:40Speaker 2: that the Vikings, like you said, went out and got
- 28:42Speaker 2: Joshawn Jones, sorry, Juwan Jennings, who at the time was
- 28:47Speaker 2: probably the biggest realistically available wide receiver on the free
- 28:52Speaker 2: agent market. That spelled terrible news for ty Felton, who
- 28:58Speaker 2: was a borderline starter you know, on paper before Jennings
- 29:04Speaker 2: was signed, and now he might if he can't figure
- 29:07Speaker 2: out being a good gunner or returner, his roster status
- 29:11Speaker 2: is up in question. So for all that reason, I
- 29:15Speaker 2: agree with you. I think you could argue he's the
- 29:17Speaker 2: biggest loser of all the guys who realistically might have
- 29:20Speaker 2: a shot at making the fifty three.
- 29:22Speaker 1: But we got two more biggest losers. Yeah, who are they?
- 29:26Speaker 1: There's the next one.
- 29:27Speaker 2: They're both quarterbacks. So number two, Max Brosmer, who this
- 29:33Speaker 2: may be like the rea for the second one in
- 29:36Speaker 2: a row. This is probably the real like a three
- 29:38Speaker 2: way to absolute biggest loser, because this could be the
- 29:43Speaker 2: difference of still being an NFL player or not ever again,
- 29:48Speaker 2: like that's a profound statement. As things sit right now
- 29:51Speaker 2: the Vikings quarterback room, you have JJ McCarthy, Kyler Murray,
- 29:56Speaker 2: Carson Wentz, and Max Brosmer. The Vikings probably will keep
- 30:02Speaker 2: three guys on the fifty three man roster. Brose mur
- 30:07Speaker 2: he's not breaking those three. We have all of the
- 30:11Speaker 2: arguments and valid debates we want about JJ McCarthy versus
- 30:16Speaker 2: Kyler Murray and who's better. And some people even say, oh,
- 30:18Speaker 2: Carson Wentz is better than JJ McCarthy whatever. I'm not
- 30:21Speaker 2: saying that right now. But brozmur is definitely not better
- 30:25Speaker 2: than any of those three. Uh, And he proved it.
- 30:29Speaker 2: He looked pretty rough when he got in the in
- 30:32Speaker 2: the games last year. He had a game where he
- 30:34Speaker 2: started and he netted three passing yards. Now the Vikings won,
- 30:40Speaker 2: but like it was rough. So I mean the second
- 30:44Speaker 2: the Vikings signed Kyler Murray and who was signed first?
- 30:47Speaker 2: Do you remember, because there there was a while Carson
- 30:50Speaker 2: Wentz was still a free agent.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Did the Vikings wine Tyler Murray? First it Kyler and
- 30:56Speaker 1: then it was Carson. I want to say that was
- 30:58Speaker 1: the timeline.
- 30:59Speaker 2: Okay, But either way, the second the Vikings got back
- 31:02Speaker 2: up to three guys in front of Brosmer, I mean,
- 31:07Speaker 2: I think Brozmer's best case scenario is practice squad, which
- 31:12Speaker 2: I'd be okay with, but like he's he lost a
- 31:16Speaker 2: lot by having Wentz and Murray joined the team again
- 31:21Speaker 2: for twenty twenty six.
- 31:23Speaker 1: I'm trying to look on the transaction list here for
- 31:28Speaker 1: Carson Wentz or did his contract expire?
- 31:33Speaker 2: Wentz March nineteenth.
- 31:34Speaker 1: So it was Kyler first. March twelfth, was Kyler March nineteenth,
- 31:39Speaker 1: so a week later Carson Wentz. So Kyler did come first.
- 31:42Speaker 1: But that tells you a lot too that Kevin O'Connell
- 31:47Speaker 1: has a lot of stock in both of those guys, right,
- 31:52Speaker 1: And I think you alluded to it or said it
- 31:54Speaker 1: a minute ago. We know who the three quarterbacks are
- 31:58Speaker 1: going to be going into week one. We don't know
- 31:59Speaker 1: who the starter will be yet. It's maybe opinions, it's
- 32:03Speaker 1: may becoming clearer and clearer. But yeah, and we all
- 32:06Speaker 1: probably have our own opinions. I know we do, mm hmm.
- 32:10Speaker 1: But the three quarterbacks that will be on the roster
- 32:13Speaker 1: will be some combination of Kyler, Murray, JJ McCarthy and
- 32:17Speaker 1: Carson Wentz. There will be no other quarterbacks on the
- 32:19Speaker 1: roster for.
- 32:20Speaker 2: The Vikings barring injury.
- 32:22Speaker 1: Yep.
- 32:23Speaker 2: And I would even say, judging by what we saw
- 32:25Speaker 2: from Brozmer on the field in regular season play, I
- 32:30Speaker 2: would say even if let's just say Carson Wentz breaks
- 32:34Speaker 2: his leg in the third preseason game, you know the
- 32:38Speaker 2: Vikings are not just saying, Okay, well we have Brozmer,
- 32:41Speaker 2: Murray and McCarthy. We're gonna roll into the season with
- 32:44Speaker 2: these three guys. They're gonna sign somebody like Brozmer is not.
- 32:49Speaker 2: I don't think I would put it at one percent.
- 32:51Speaker 2: Brozemer makes the fifty three man roster no matter who
- 32:54Speaker 2: gets injured, you know what I mean, Like, even if
- 32:56Speaker 2: it's one of those crazy scenarios that people like to
- 32:59Speaker 2: talk about, where hey, if Kyler Murray wins the job,
- 33:02Speaker 2: do the Vikings just trade JJ McCarthy, Even if they
- 33:04Speaker 2: get rid of Murray, McCarthy or WinCE, they're adding someone better.
- 33:10Speaker 2: Like I like Brosmer as much as the next guy.
- 33:13Speaker 2: I think he's an intriguing, you know, practice squad developmental guy.
- 33:18Speaker 2: We're gonna see some crazy throw in training camp where
- 33:21Speaker 2: he's like, oh man, he just is he better? Is
- 33:23Speaker 2: he even better than JJ McCarthy, Like, We're gonna see
- 33:26Speaker 2: something like that, and he's probably gonna get some time
- 33:28Speaker 2: in preseason games. I just don't think Brozemer has any
- 33:32Speaker 2: shot at being anything more than a practice squad guy.
- 33:36Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that that game where he
- 33:40Speaker 1: netted three yards. They won that game. Yeah, it was
- 33:44Speaker 1: the stay game right against the Lions. I forgot about that.
- 33:48Speaker 1: It's just super funny, like man that he played so
- 33:52Speaker 1: badly and yet the Vikings kind of dominated the Lions.
- 33:56Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, now that was a defensive show. But the
- 34:00Speaker 2: Vikings offense still scored twenty three points. Well, I guess
- 34:03Speaker 2: the Vikings team I don't remember if the defense had any.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, will rekerd will record Jordan Addison with a
- 34:11Speaker 1: sixty five yard rush rush.
- 34:13Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh, and that was the longest rush of the
- 34:15Speaker 2: season last year for the Vikings.
- 34:16Speaker 1: And then so reikerd with three Aaron Jones and Jordan
- 34:20Speaker 1: Addison with rushing touchdowns. Okay, a three field goals, two touchdowns.
- 34:24Speaker 2: Yeah, that maths out. So yeah, I just don't think
- 34:28Speaker 2: Brozmer has any shot at the fifty three. And if
- 34:33Speaker 2: he does, if he makes a fifty three, even out
- 34:35Speaker 2: of the initial roster that they say before, you know,
- 34:40Speaker 2: they reshape a little bit with other teams cuts. If
- 34:45Speaker 2: he makes it, we have to be severely concerned, like
- 34:48Speaker 2: what is happening? But yeah, now I think we can
- 34:53Speaker 2: move on to the number one. According to Dustin Baker,
- 34:57Speaker 2: the number one biggest loser, and I think this is
- 35:00Speaker 2: just more for shock value than anything could be. Even
- 35:05Speaker 2: in Dustin's article, he kind of says like twenty twenty
- 35:08Speaker 2: six has two very different possibilities for JJ McCarthy. He
- 35:13Speaker 2: could either be proving himself to be the QB of
- 35:18Speaker 2: the future for the Vikings or it's over. Like I think,
- 35:24Speaker 2: if McCarthy doesn't win the job, some people say, like, ah,
- 35:28Speaker 2: he can be QB two and maybe you know twenty
- 35:31Speaker 2: twenty seven he'll have a shot to go, and that
- 35:34Speaker 2: might be true, but I think it's kind of boom
- 35:35Speaker 2: or bust for JJ. As much as I'm a JJ guy,
- 35:38Speaker 2: I think if he doesn't beat out Kyler Murray, then
- 35:41Speaker 2: that means Kyler Murray won the job, and the Vikings,
- 35:44Speaker 2: if that does happen, should do everything they can to
- 35:47Speaker 2: lock up Kyler Murray for long term, which I mean
- 35:52Speaker 2: at that point you'd think somebody else would take on
- 35:54Speaker 2: JJ McCarthy for a project potential like it wasn't the
- 35:58Speaker 2: right fit there, but maybe the Chargers if something happens
- 36:02Speaker 2: with Herbert or something like that. I don't know. So
- 36:05Speaker 2: for me, Dustin putting him at number one is more
- 36:07Speaker 2: of a boomer bust wow factor, But it really could be.
- 36:11Speaker 2: I mean, he could end up being the biggest loser
- 36:14Speaker 2: of the offseason.
- 36:14Speaker 1: Because he has the biggest potential to be the biggest loser,
- 36:19Speaker 1: I think, right, so, but he also has the potential
- 36:23Speaker 1: to be maybe the answer, right, maybe the nine that
- 36:29Speaker 1: we want them all to be, you know, maybe that
- 36:33Speaker 1: game changing quarterback that we've longed for forever, and maybe
- 36:37Speaker 1: he just needed to grow up through the last couple
- 36:40Speaker 1: of seasons and just figure it out. I've heard from
- 36:44Speaker 1: I think it was Brian O'Neill. I saw some just
- 36:47Speaker 1: quotes from a podcast or something he was on. I
- 36:50Speaker 1: think he was quoted saying something like, I've never seen
- 36:53Speaker 1: anybody get the locker room so quickly and so completely.
- 37:00Speaker 1: That's not a direct quote, but I think that was
- 37:02Speaker 1: the gist of what And I'm pretty sure it was
- 37:04Speaker 1: Brian O'Neill.
- 37:05Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I saw that some clips from what
- 37:08Speaker 2: you're talking about.
- 37:09Speaker 1: So that intrigues me because, you know it for for
- 37:15Speaker 1: all of the rapport you build off the field, he
- 37:20Speaker 1: didn't build a lot of a reputation on the field, right.
- 37:24Speaker 1: He had some shining moments, He had some big plays,
- 37:29Speaker 1: but a lot of those big plays were outshadowed and
- 37:34Speaker 1: outnumbered by the really, really bad play. So I don't know.
- 37:40Speaker 1: I'm cautiously optimistic at this point. I still think Kyler
- 37:46Speaker 1: Murray is the better quarterback. He's a proven veteran that
- 37:51Speaker 1: as long as he's healthy, he can do the job
- 37:54Speaker 1: and do the job better than most. And that's what
- 37:56Speaker 1: you hope for in the NFL. Right, You're not gonna
- 38:00Speaker 1: net the next Tom Brady, the next Patrick Mahomes, the
- 38:04Speaker 1: next Drew Brees, the next Aaron Rodgers, like fill in
- 38:07Speaker 1: the blank. Like chances of any team getting that player.
- 38:12Speaker 1: It's like winning the lottery, right, like oh yeah, yeah,
- 38:15Speaker 1: it's it doesn't happen every day. And we said it
- 38:19Speaker 1: about J J McCarthy the last two years. He just
- 38:22Speaker 1: needs to be okay. He just needs to manage the game.
- 38:25Speaker 1: And I think that's where Kyler Murray will end up.
- 38:27Speaker 1: At least that's what I'm hoping he will do if
- 38:31Speaker 1: JJ ends up playing. I hope that's what he does too,
- 38:34Speaker 1: Like I hope he kind of puts his own ego aside,
- 38:36Speaker 1: like get rid of the alternate persona, get rid of this,
- 38:40Speaker 1: Like I gotta go prove everybody wrong. Now, Like, just
- 38:43Speaker 1: go out and play football, man, and just manage the game,
- 38:46Speaker 1: and forget about the media, forget about what everybody else
- 38:49Speaker 1: is saying. Just play, just play play ball.
- 38:51Speaker 2: Now what I will say and me, I think this
- 38:54Speaker 2: is something we can both agree on. No matter who
- 38:57Speaker 2: wins the QB one job, and I've said this on
- 38:59Speaker 2: the show before, we're just by both of their injury history,
- 39:07Speaker 2: we're very likely unless JJ McCarthy like doesn't win the
- 39:10Speaker 2: job and forces a trade or something like that if
- 39:13Speaker 2: he's on the fifty three man roster. Same for Kyler.
- 39:17Speaker 2: Whoever wins a job is gonna get injured at some point.
- 39:20Speaker 2: They're gonna miss one game, you know, like we're gonna
- 39:23Speaker 2: see the other guy at least one game.
- 39:27Speaker 1: JJ is gonna pull himself out of a game at
- 39:29Speaker 1: some point.
- 39:30Speaker 2: I mean, we watched that happen in the most recent
- 39:33Speaker 2: regular season game for the Vikings. But I do think
- 39:36Speaker 2: like we we I think we've talked about how we
- 39:40Speaker 2: should kind of bet on this, do like a purple
- 39:43Speaker 2: it's like a super purple punishment bet. And maybe we
- 39:47Speaker 2: do that next week or the week after, or we
- 39:49Speaker 2: set some of these lines and I think one that
- 39:52Speaker 2: I've said in the past is whoever is named QB
- 39:57Speaker 2: two heading into the season is still gonna start three
- 40:00Speaker 2: to four games this season, just based off of both
- 40:04Speaker 2: of the guy's injury history. So I don't know. I
- 40:08Speaker 2: think we're gonna get a chance to see both of
- 40:10Speaker 2: them in the regular season.
- 40:13Speaker 1: It'll be super interesting and that will continue to dominate
- 40:16Speaker 1: all of the conversation, all of the articles, all of
- 40:20Speaker 1: the chatter from now until Week one against the Packers,
- 40:25Speaker 1: Like that's that's gonna be the conversation with the Vikings,
- 40:29Speaker 1: and I'm excited for it. I do think that Dustin
- 40:34Speaker 1: may have left off one person was going to ask
- 40:37Speaker 1: from his list. I have one person, and maybe Dustin
- 40:43Speaker 1: was only thinking of players, and that's okay, but my
- 40:46Speaker 1: person isn't a player. But you can think about anybody
- 40:51Speaker 1: player or not. But I think Quacy might be the
- 40:55Speaker 1: biggest loser of the Vikings offseason.
- 40:57Speaker 2: He definitely was because he got fired like fire.
- 41:00Speaker 1: But I mean, he's kind of right back where he
- 41:03Speaker 1: started with San Francisco, and I don't think he really
- 41:06Speaker 1: he didn't get a promotion. I think he got demotion
- 41:10Speaker 1: for all intents and purposes. I think his new title
- 41:13Speaker 1: is the vice president of Personnel and stratage.
- 41:16Speaker 2: He went from the GM of a team to back
- 41:18Speaker 2: to even if he's the same level he was with
- 41:20Speaker 2: the Niners before the Vikings.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Well, but so like, just think about like you and
- 41:27Speaker 1: your family. I think he's he's younger. He's a little
- 41:30Speaker 1: bit older than we are, I think early forty forty four.
- 41:34Speaker 1: But he's a younger guy with a growing family. You're
- 41:38Speaker 1: living in Minneapolis, which I think is pretty friendly to
- 41:42Speaker 1: young growing families. Now you're back in San Francisco.
- 41:45Speaker 2: I don't know, man, have you seen the news from
- 41:47Speaker 2: Minneapolis lately.
- 41:49Speaker 1: Anyways, Minneapolis is going to be better than anything in California,
- 41:53Speaker 1: I think, in opinion. But anyways, all that to say,
- 41:56Speaker 1: I think I think Quacy might be the biggest loser.
- 41:59Speaker 1: I think he he gave it a valiant effort. We
- 42:03Speaker 1: can't say that he didn't try. I think he was
- 42:06Speaker 1: maybe misguided. I think he was maybe a little underprepared
- 42:10Speaker 1: for the job. But yeah, he definitely took a big
- 42:14Speaker 1: step down from where he was as the GM of
- 42:17Speaker 1: one of thirty two NFL teams, and now he's he
- 42:20Speaker 1: ended up back kind of where he started. He started
- 42:22Speaker 1: with San Francisco in twenty thirteen, and he's back with them,
- 42:25Speaker 1: and maybe that's a good place for him. Maybe he
- 42:27Speaker 1: can kind of ride things out and get to retirement
- 42:31Speaker 1: in twenty years or whatever and call it good. I
- 42:35Speaker 1: don't know.
- 42:36Speaker 2: Yeah, I would imagine he was well compensated during his
- 42:39Speaker 2: time with the Vikings and still again with the Niners.
- 42:42Speaker 2: He's probably well compensated as well.
- 42:45Speaker 1: Anybody you would add to that list, though, Yeah.
- 42:47Speaker 2: This is tough. I mean, I I don't know. I
- 42:51Speaker 2: think we've hit all the major points. Yeah, I could
- 42:57Speaker 2: try to come up with a name. I don't know.
- 42:59Speaker 2: I kind of feel for Brazinski a little bit. Yeah,
- 43:03Speaker 2: it was very It was at least reported that he
- 43:05Speaker 2: was very interested in the job, the GM job, and
- 43:08Speaker 2: he didn't get it. But also he's still with the team.
- 43:12Speaker 2: He's been with the team for pushing three decades now.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Maybe he's happy. I kind of always speculated, just off,
- 43:21Speaker 2: you know, no knowledge whatsoever, but I personally kind of
- 43:24Speaker 2: speculated maybe he knows he's just filling in and doesn't
- 43:28Speaker 2: necessarily want to be the GM, because that's that's a
- 43:33Speaker 2: lot and a lot more than you know, it's a
- 43:36Speaker 2: lot less. It's a lot more thankless of a job
- 43:39Speaker 2: than what he's in right now. But if it's true
- 43:41Speaker 2: that he really wanted the job and then ultimately didn't
- 43:44Speaker 2: get it and then got kind of pushed back down
- 43:47Speaker 2: to he didn't get demoted as like the vice president
- 43:52Speaker 2: or whatever of operations. But I will say in all
- 43:56Speaker 2: of this, it sounds like Kevin O'Connell almost got a
- 44:01Speaker 2: hierarchy promotion to where I think Mark Wilfe, one of
- 44:07Speaker 2: the owners, said that both Nolan Teasley and Kevin O'Connell
- 44:11Speaker 2: will be directly reporting to ownership.
- 44:14Speaker 1: The triangle of power.
- 44:15Speaker 2: Whereas Rob Brazinski is reporting directly to Nolan Teasley. And
- 44:21Speaker 2: I don't know if that was necessarily the case before.
- 44:24Speaker 2: I feel like before it was ownership, and then Quacy
- 44:28Speaker 2: directly reported to ownership, and then everyone else directly reported
- 44:32Speaker 2: to Quacy. I might be wrong on the whole coach part,
- 44:34Speaker 2: but I'm pretty sure that's how it was. So it
- 44:36Speaker 2: seems like Koc kind of got a promotion.
- 44:39Speaker 1: He might be the biggest winner.
- 44:41Speaker 2: He might be the biggest winner absolutely for now, It'll
- 44:44Speaker 2: be interesting to see if the Vikings don't want to
- 44:47Speaker 2: make the playoffs or win a playoff game. But that's
- 44:50Speaker 2: conversation for.
- 44:52Speaker 1: I don't think Kosi is on the hot seat quite yet.
- 44:55Speaker 1: I think he's got a couple more years of time
- 45:00Speaker 1: to prove what he can do. And you know, with
- 45:04Speaker 1: the GM change, you would hope that ownership would say, Okay,
- 45:08Speaker 1: we'll give you a couple of years for you guys
- 45:11Speaker 1: to kind of figure it out. Yeah, draft a couple
- 45:13Speaker 1: of guys and see what we can build.
- 45:15Speaker 2: Yeah, the GM being hired after the draft may have
- 45:18Speaker 2: lengthened the leash for Koc a little bit, like, all right,
- 45:21Speaker 2: we need to give you guys at least one draft together.
- 45:25Speaker 2: But then you could argue, like, no, it's still shortened
- 45:30Speaker 2: Koc's leash because it sounds like, well the brisness. Rabrazinski
- 45:35Speaker 2: was the guy making the picks. Koc and everyone else
- 45:40Speaker 2: involved had a lot more say than they would have
- 45:43Speaker 2: had Nolan Teasley been hired, you know, weeks before the draft.
- 45:47Speaker 2: So I don't know, maybe maybe you're right. I would
- 45:50Speaker 2: say Kevin O'Connell probably was the biggest winner. But it
- 45:53Speaker 2: will be very interesting to see if this is like
- 45:55Speaker 2: just a normal bad season, If it ends up being
- 45:58Speaker 2: a bad season, the Vikings don't win the playoffs, win
- 46:01Speaker 2: a playoff game, or even make the playoffs, and there's
- 46:05Speaker 2: not like, oh, well, of course they lost because all
- 46:07Speaker 2: these high level players had unforeseen injuries, so there was
- 46:12Speaker 2: no way they were gonna win. If it's just a
- 46:14Speaker 2: normal bad season, I think nobody's immune. I mean, yeah,
- 46:17Speaker 2: the leash is probably long, but I think Koc could
- 46:20Speaker 2: still do things, not even like horrific thrown and jail things,
- 46:24Speaker 2: but like he could still do things that are like, yeah,
- 46:26Speaker 2: we can't do this anymore, you're out. I like Koc.
- 46:29Speaker 2: I'm not advocating for that. I'm a Koc guy. But
- 46:32Speaker 2: nobody's immune. I mean, Bill Belichick got fired a few
- 46:35Speaker 2: years ago. Like nobody's immune.
- 46:37Speaker 1: But I think the good news for the Vikings in
- 46:40Speaker 1: the NFC North is the Vikings have been kind of
- 46:46Speaker 1: worry free so far, not gone far, no big issues,
- 46:51Speaker 1: no Jordan Addison arrests, and ironically, both the Packers and
- 46:58Speaker 1: the Bears have had some pretty high profiles Packers and Lions.
- 47:02Speaker 1: Sorry I said Bears, I meant to say Lions. Josh
- 47:06Speaker 1: Jacobs with the Packers was arrested back in May, and
- 47:10Speaker 1: then Terry On Arnold with the Lions, was arrested and
- 47:13Speaker 1: then subsequently released from the Lions like this week.
- 47:17Speaker 2: I think, yeah, it was a it's kind of ugly.
- 47:20Speaker 2: He's not good, he did some bad stuff, So it's
- 47:23Speaker 2: it's alas that Arnold was released. It's also kind of
- 47:28Speaker 2: crazy that it took so long for the Lions to
- 47:30Speaker 2: release him because he had been jailed, yeah, for a
- 47:33Speaker 2: couple of days.
- 47:34Speaker 1: But I think I think that's a strong underlying symbol
- 47:41Speaker 1: of what could be happening or what's to come right,
- 47:46Speaker 1: like we can we can use that as it's not
- 47:49Speaker 1: the only measure of success obviously, Like you've got fifty
- 47:52Speaker 1: three guys in the locker room when we get down
- 47:54Speaker 1: to it, and you've got all these other kind of
- 47:58Speaker 1: things moving in and out, and you have to actually
- 48:00Speaker 1: play the games and win the games. But it seems
- 48:03Speaker 1: like in terms of the off season, the Vikings are
- 48:05Speaker 1: having a pretty decent offseason so far. Yeah, the five
- 48:08Speaker 1: guys we talked about, Walter Rouse, LDR Ty Felton, Max
- 48:12Speaker 1: Brozmaner and JJ McCarthy. Yeah, it's maybe been a little
- 48:16Speaker 1: bit more challenging for them. And sure maybe two or
- 48:20Speaker 1: three or even four of them don't even make the
- 48:23Speaker 1: team come September. But I think all in all, the
- 48:29Speaker 1: Vikings offseason has been pretty good and it's been quiet,
- 48:32Speaker 1: which I think is what we want for the Vikings.
- 48:36Speaker 1: No big news, no big headlines, no arrests, no flashy
- 48:41Speaker 1: like trades. You have Kyler Murray coming in and that's
- 48:46Speaker 1: new and different, but he's in a battle and he's
- 48:49Speaker 1: got to earn his spot on the team and we'll
- 48:52Speaker 1: see what happens with that.
- 48:53Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, starting July, you don't want your team in
- 48:56Speaker 2: the news at all, unless it's like, oh, this player
- 49:01Speaker 2: saved a cat from a tree. We don't want any
- 49:05Speaker 2: Vikings news because there's no interesting news that can come
- 49:09Speaker 2: out in July without it being bad. I think the
- 49:14Speaker 2: Diana Rassini just recently a body cam of her being
- 49:19Speaker 2: pulled over recently became public and she said something like,
- 49:23Speaker 2: you know, the Vikings quarterback sucks, like okay, whatever, Like
- 49:27Speaker 2: if that's the craziest thing that happens this July, we're
- 49:32Speaker 2: thinking our lucky stars. So yes, we want it to
- 49:35Speaker 2: be very quiet. It's boring and we're gonna end up
- 49:38Speaker 2: talking about some things that maybe people don't even care about.
- 49:41Speaker 2: On the podcast. But I'd rather that than ope, Jordan
- 49:44Speaker 2: Madison got arrested again, or oh man, this player got
- 49:48Speaker 2: brutally injured on a jet ski or somebody blew their
- 49:51Speaker 2: fingers off on fourth of July. Please don't blow your
- 49:54Speaker 2: fingers off listeners. By the way, some people in this
- 49:58Speaker 2: world right now don't even know that these are the
- 50:00Speaker 2: last couple of days with all ten of their fingers.
- 50:02Speaker 2: So yeah, we want it to be very quiet, agreed.
- 50:08Speaker 1: And I mean, we get to the end of July
- 50:11Speaker 1: and we're done with pretty much all the offseason stuff
- 50:16Speaker 1: and we're squarely in training camp. You got joint practices.
- 50:21Speaker 1: Who are the Vikings playing?
- 50:23Speaker 2: I think it's the Ravens that they have joint practices with.
- 50:26Speaker 1: I wanted to say that, but I didn't want to
- 50:28Speaker 1: be wrong. Why am I wrong to think, Well, you're
- 50:31Speaker 1: probably more right than I would be. But yeah, I
- 50:33Speaker 1: think there's joint practices with the Ravens which will be
- 50:36Speaker 1: helpful preseason games through August and yeah, game one week
- 50:42Speaker 1: one September thirteenth at home against the Packers. That'll be
- 50:46Speaker 1: a big one.
- 50:47Speaker 2: I can't wait, although I can because I like the summer,
- 50:50Speaker 2: but it'll be a lot cooler out, and these red
- 50:53Speaker 2: ales will red bloggers will be more time appropriate during
- 50:58Speaker 2: the football season.
- 51:00Speaker 1: You know what I was thinking about at one point
- 51:01Speaker 1: with this, what I was just thinking I was envisioning
- 51:05Speaker 1: myself coming home from a Friday night football game wearing
- 51:10Speaker 1: a sweatshirt and got your jeans on.
- 51:13Speaker 2: You never jeans, man, never jeans. It's always shorts weather.
- 51:17Speaker 1: When it's like forty degrees outside.
- 51:19Speaker 2: Oh, we're still twenty tes away from jeans weather.
- 51:22Speaker 1: I'm in jeans at that point.
- 51:24Speaker 2: I'm twenty degrees is when I start thinking maybe I
- 51:28Speaker 2: should not be wearing shorts anymore. And Eve anyways, anyways,
- 51:32Speaker 2: we have different wardrobes. That's fine, you're paying a picture.
- 51:35Speaker 2: I just threw some black paint on there.
- 51:37Speaker 1: Jeans and some sweatshirt. Coming home after a Friday night
- 51:41Speaker 1: football game. It's ten o'clock. Whatever. You got the fire
- 51:44Speaker 1: pit out at the end of the driveway. This is
- 51:47Speaker 1: what you're pulling out the fridge, or this is what
- 51:49Speaker 1: you're going to the store to pick up on your
- 51:52Speaker 1: way home, so that you can sit at the end
- 51:54Speaker 1: of your driveway, hang out with your neighbors for an
- 51:57Speaker 1: hour or two and have a few beers and just
- 52:01Speaker 1: enjoy the fact that it's fifty degrees outside and it's
- 52:04Speaker 1: not super hot anymore.
- 52:05Speaker 2: You said, Friday night. So you're enjoying the second to
- 52:08Speaker 2: the last day of the week. Yep, and you're just
- 52:12Speaker 2: high school football and you're loving your loving life.
- 52:15Speaker 1: Were you poking fun at my calendar?
- 52:17Speaker 2: I was. You're one of those psychopaths that start your
- 52:20Speaker 2: week on Mondays.
- 52:21Speaker 1: So that's when the week starts. I don't know why
- 52:24Speaker 1: any other week would start on any other day.
- 52:26Speaker 2: The work week starts on Monday. Yes, this beer is
- 52:31Speaker 2: almost perfect. It's like the perfect fall beer, and I'm
- 52:34Speaker 2: not mad to be drinking it on probably the hottest
- 52:37Speaker 2: day that we've had this year so far.
- 52:39Speaker 1: It's been terrible.
- 52:40Speaker 2: I think earlier I looked at it was ninety four
- 52:42Speaker 2: and it said, feels like ninety seven. And yes, I
- 52:44Speaker 2: know there are hotter days, but man, it is. It
- 52:48Speaker 2: is brutal out there. So this kind of it was
- 52:54Speaker 2: good to feel that picture you were painting of the
- 52:58Speaker 2: second to last day of the week and a chill day,
- 53:00Speaker 2: and you know, you're just nice.
- 53:02Speaker 1: Got a nice little cool breeze coming down from the
- 53:05Speaker 1: air vent here and we can just like we can
- 53:08Speaker 1: we can just dream for a minute, right, Like Jimmy
- 53:11Speaker 1: Buffett would sing about, you know, swinging away in Margaritaville.
- 53:14Speaker 2: Well he was talking about beach and warm weather, and
- 53:17Speaker 2: we're talking about like, but we're the Midwest.
- 53:19Speaker 1: We just like reverse psychology, right, like we're just we're
- 53:22Speaker 1: flipping Jimmy Buffett on his head tonight.
- 53:24Speaker 2: There we go, All right, Evan, where didn't people find us?
- 53:28Speaker 1: I just I would like to point out it's still
- 53:31Speaker 1: eighty four degrees outside and it's almost ten o'clock.
- 53:34Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the humidity.
- 53:36Speaker 1: It's ridiculous.
- 53:37Speaker 2: The humidity is insane.
- 53:38Speaker 1: That's that corn sweat we got going on here.
- 53:40Speaker 2: And I sweating today, the corn sweat, the Austin sweat,
- 53:43Speaker 2: that everything sweat. It's bad.
- 53:45Speaker 1: I went to the dentist today the teeth were sweating.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Well no, I just told the hygienist when I got there,
- 53:51Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm really sorry if I smell bad because
- 53:53Speaker 1: I've been outside for like three hours and it's hot.
- 53:57Speaker 2: Yeah. I went for a two mile walk today on
- 54:00Speaker 2: my lunch break.
- 54:01Speaker 1: You probably lost ten pounds.
- 54:02Speaker 2: That'd be great. Uh No, But I did have a
- 54:04Speaker 2: meeting about an hour after that, and it was in
- 54:08Speaker 2: a room with a long table, and I purposely sat
- 54:11Speaker 2: at the furthest end of the table, hoping people would
- 54:14Speaker 2: they'd at least have the opportunity to be like, who,
- 54:16Speaker 2: all right, thank you for sitting far away. I'm gonna
- 54:18Speaker 2: sit on this end of the table. So nobody said anything,
- 54:21Speaker 2: but you know, you can tell people are like, hey, eh,
- 54:25Speaker 2: I said, they just stay away.
- 54:27Speaker 1: So I purposely took a shower before you came over
- 54:30Speaker 1: because I was like, I was still in my sweaty
- 54:31Speaker 1: clothes from this morning and I probably smelled bad, and
- 54:34Speaker 1: I'm like, no, I'm gonna I'm gonna clean up a
- 54:36Speaker 1: little bit.
- 54:37Speaker 2: Well, thanks man. And you put on the Sammy D shirt.
- 54:39Speaker 2: Sammy D Baby, that's one of them two.
- 54:41Speaker 1: I think that might be accurate. Yeah, but I love
- 54:46Speaker 1: this shirt. It's a nice shirt.
- 54:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a I wish I would have got that color.
- 54:49Speaker 1: Anyways, you asked me a question a minute going where
- 54:52Speaker 1: canick Where can people find us of hit us up anywhere?
- 54:57Speaker 1: Most places? That is, we're not like every but we're
- 55:00Speaker 1: like we're in all the big places that most.
- 55:03Speaker 2: People go and find us on your toaster, that's correct,
- 55:06Speaker 2: But I know there are some smart fridges where you
- 55:08Speaker 2: could probably pull up our videos.
- 55:10Speaker 1: You probably could. I bet there's a fridge out there
- 55:12Speaker 1: where you could listen to the School Hop.
- 55:14Speaker 2: I'll guarantee you.
- 55:15Speaker 1: I guarantee you. But big places to go would be YouTube, Spotify,
- 55:21Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, really anywhere you can listen to a podcast.
- 55:24Speaker 1: We should be there. If we're not, send us a
- 55:26Speaker 1: message and we'll try to get there. But we've got
- 55:30Speaker 1: a website, the school Hop dot com. We've got our
- 55:35Speaker 1: what was that going to say, we've got merch.
- 55:37Speaker 2: Go ahead, check out tea public dot com and just
- 55:40Speaker 2: search for the School Hop. There you'll find our merch.
- 55:43Speaker 2: You used to be able to find the Sandy d shirt,
- 55:45Speaker 2: but we flew a little too close to the sun
- 55:47Speaker 2: with the copyright stuff.
- 55:49Speaker 1: So we got for that. I was gonna say our
- 55:51Speaker 1: email the School Hop at gmail dot com. I just
- 55:54Speaker 1: had a brain fart for a second. But we're good.
- 55:56Speaker 1: Email us the school Hop at gmail dot com. If
- 55:59Speaker 1: you just google us the Scoalhop, you're probably find pretty
- 56:03Speaker 1: much everything that's out there to find about us.
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- 56:10Speaker 2: at all, please leave a like a subscribe of quick Review.
- 56:15Speaker 2: The more people that do that, the more people will
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- 56:25Speaker 2: that too. So either leave a like, subscribe review, or
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- 56:32Speaker 2: or might like to laugh at us. That's okay. Any
- 56:34Speaker 2: any engagement is engagement. So yeah, that's about That's about
- 56:39Speaker 2: all I can think of there.
- 56:40Speaker 1: Uh what do you think of the east Side attitude
- 56:42Speaker 1: from Confluence?
- 56:44Speaker 2: I think we gave all of our good thoughts. It's
- 56:46Speaker 2: the perfect If you want to live in the fall
- 56:49Speaker 2: with a nice chili weather with a red lagger, this
- 56:52Speaker 2: is it. This will transport you in time and space.
- 56:57Speaker 2: It's just really good, full flavored beer. Six point three
- 57:00Speaker 2: percent isn't gonna knock you out of the water. You
- 57:03Speaker 2: can have a few without waking up with a headache
- 57:05Speaker 2: the next day. Lawnmower scale, I'm gonna put it that
- 57:11Speaker 2: depends on a time of year. Right now, today the
- 57:15Speaker 2: lawnmower scale would be at like like a five eight.
- 57:21Speaker 2: But if we're talking like last mod of the year,
- 57:23Speaker 2: when it's chilly out and you've got the sweatshirt on
- 57:26Speaker 2: and you're coming in. Maybe it's up like a seven
- 57:30Speaker 2: to two, but we'll just say five to eight for
- 57:33Speaker 2: the sake of it right now.
- 57:35Speaker 1: Average of those two out six five somewhere in there. Yeah, no,
- 57:40Speaker 1: I intentionally did not say those two numbers together.
- 57:44Speaker 2: But regardless, Confluence, you made a great beer. This beer
- 57:48Speaker 2: is one that if this was the first confluence beer
- 57:51Speaker 2: people had, it will make them want to have more
- 57:54Speaker 2: confluence beers. I think, So, what do you think?
- 57:57Speaker 1: I love it. It's maybe one of the best Red
- 57:59Speaker 1: Beer years that I've ever had.
- 58:01Speaker 2: And it means a lot for me.
- 58:03Speaker 1: It does, and I'm probably gonna seek this one out,
- 58:07Speaker 1: buy a few more and have them in the fridge.
- 58:11Speaker 2: So there you go.
- 58:13Speaker 1: I think this was a really good beer, really good episode.
- 58:17Speaker 1: It might be the best episode yet.
- 58:18Speaker 2: Maybe School.
- 59:01Speaker 3: Athletic Athletic at at at at at at at at
- 59:19Speaker 3: at at athlet