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What no one is saying about Epstein · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening, wherever you may be,
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  Speaker 1: and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian.
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  Speaker 1: I'm here with Allison, and this is maintaining frame what
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  Speaker 1: no one is saying about Epstein or We're going to
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  Speaker 1: be looking at a couple of things. One is a
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  Speaker 1: medium article which I have here for your edification, and
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  Speaker 1: it's related. It's the Yes, there's a picture of Woody
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  Speaker 1: Allen and Stu Yee I think her name is or
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  Speaker 1: whatever soon ye, sorry, I don't mean to butcher the name.
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  Speaker 1: But there's also a Brianny Claire, a couple of Brianny
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  Speaker 1: Claire videos, one of which is specifically about the Epstein thing.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to try to, let's say, shine a
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  Speaker 1: light on aspects that people seem to be missing. So
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  Speaker 1: I guess i'll like, huh overlooking Yeah, No, I mean
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  Speaker 1: I mean.
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  Speaker 2: More deliberately obscuring. Yeah, all right, at any point. So
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  Speaker 2: essentially we'll go through some thoughts on the Epstein files.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't read them. I don't think Brian has read them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't anybody has read them, because there's so many
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  Speaker 2: of them. Well, we'll have some conversation about not necessarily
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  Speaker 2: specifically on what is in that, but the response to
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  Speaker 2: this situation. And then after that we might have time
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  Speaker 2: to go through the spectrum of misogyny, which is always fun.
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  Speaker 2: We'll look at We'll look at Byrony Claire's where we
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  Speaker 2: which is what I'm really curious about, where we lie
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  Speaker 2: on the spectrum of misogyny. And you can follow at
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  Speaker 2: home and discover where you lie on the spectrum of misogyny.
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  Speaker 2: So stay tuned for that at the end. A little
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  Speaker 2: you want to start with the article?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, I mean, will the article is?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's kind of long, it's not that long.
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  Speaker 1: It's actually not that long, but I'm not sure. I
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  Speaker 1: guess the first thing we should do is establish some context.
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  Speaker 1: So the Epstein files, everybody's got an opinion on it.
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  Speaker 1: They all they're all making claims and and I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like even what we talk about on the news show sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is that there's there's so much data.
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  Speaker 1: No one could possibly have as many conclusions drawn as
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  Speaker 1: there are because you'd have to go through millions and
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  Speaker 1: millions of pages. And if you can go to the
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  Speaker 1: FBI website I think it's the FBI website and just
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  Speaker 1: search a term and it'll show you where it shows up.
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  Speaker 1: But the truth is it's basically every single email, every
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  Speaker 1: single document, everything, which means it could be anything, right.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be related to specifically all the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that people think, are you know, damning right. So
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  Speaker 1: this is important because if there's a name in there,
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  Speaker 1: then people will decide based on their own internal bias
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  Speaker 1: whether that is a condemnation or not. And this is
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  Speaker 1: extremely dangerous because it can be weaponized and it has
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  Speaker 1: been right and I'm not even it doesn't matter who
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  Speaker 1: against it, just is it's just this thing that's almost
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  Speaker 1: like this radioactive thing that if anyone is in it
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  Speaker 1: in any capacity, no matter what the context, it becomes
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  Speaker 1: a talking point. And that's one thing I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to contribute to, which I think I've been very consistent on,
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  Speaker 1: even going back to, you know, like when we talked
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  Speaker 1: about the me too movement, right, so, like the me
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  Speaker 1: too movement, there are people who were accused and people
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  Speaker 1: are like, well, they were accused and they must have
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  Speaker 1: done something, and this is like, this is the problem.
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  Speaker 1: Even if there are hundreds of women that accuse somebody,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't mean anything because that women collude to like
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  Speaker 1: destroy people's reputations all the time. In fact, I just
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  Speaker 1: covered an article put out by uh it was like
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  Speaker 1: an entertainment website, you know, like an entertainment news site,
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  Speaker 1: and they talked about how Paramount is hiring back a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of dudes that got me tooed.
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  Speaker 2: What happened you know, I sent you a message. I said, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're talking.
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  Speaker 1: They're talking to some like essentially, Paramount is buying Warner
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  Speaker 1: Brothers and they're trying to like salvage the film industry,
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  Speaker 1: at least on their end, and you know, get some wins.
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  Speaker 1: And they're basically hiring back people like Johnny Depp who
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  Speaker 1: had their lives ruined by false allegations. And they're already
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  Speaker 1: writing pieces saying, well, how come these you're giving these
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  Speaker 1: men with troubled past jobs. So, like my point with
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  Speaker 1: that is is that this feeds into a narrative of uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like this like basically condemning people even if
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  Speaker 1: there is no police reports, even if there's no real evidence,
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  Speaker 1: instead of simply taking the time to be like, let's
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  Speaker 1: wait and see where this goes. And yeah, you may
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  Speaker 1: not have faith in the system or whatever, but there's
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  Speaker 1: really nothing else you can do except take a wait
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  Speaker 1: and see stance on it. And I think that's important
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  Speaker 1: because today we're gonna see, for one, this article is
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  Speaker 1: I haven't read it yet, but based on what I've seen,
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  Speaker 1: I think I know where it's going. I'm not gonna
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  Speaker 1: say much to it except that I remember when the
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like before the Epstein Files thing happened.
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  Speaker 1: There was it was like sort of like during the
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  Speaker 1: Me Too movement, like at its peak, and they were
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  Speaker 1: talking about Woody Allen and some allegations that were made
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  Speaker 1: against him by Sun Ye. And I remember Janis Fiamngod
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  Speaker 1: did a stream with someone and she was making the
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  Speaker 1: case that it's not that he's innocent, but rather that
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  Speaker 1: it's not as simple as people think. It is right,
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  Speaker 1: that there was more going on there than what everyone
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  Speaker 1: believes based on Again, we had these assumptions and when
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  Speaker 1: you when you consider that we tend to assume men
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  Speaker 1: are guilty, then it it's it's something that we have
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  Speaker 1: to necessarily we have to be aware of, we have
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  Speaker 1: to be careful about, you know. So that's basically what
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  Speaker 1: I'm that's that's basically what I'm getting at, is that
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  Speaker 1: when you look at this, please try not to have
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  Speaker 1: an emotional attachment to the material, and let's look at
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  Speaker 1: this as dispassionately and objectively as possible and try to
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  Speaker 1: introduce like perspectives that may that may exist that may
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  Speaker 1: not be something that people have considered. So this, this
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  Speaker 1: Woody Allen thing is one side of that, and then
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  Speaker 1: on the other side of that we have like the
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  Speaker 1: video Briarny Claire made about Epstein, which is actually some
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  Speaker 1: of the claims she makes in that video are absolutely astonishing.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, anyway, astonishing, I look look forward to being astonished.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe look for looking forward is the wrong war term. Well,
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  Speaker 2: what I want to bring to this is just looking
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  Speaker 2: at the response and what people are focusing on and
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  Speaker 2: the dynamic between this basically a bunch of elite men
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  Speaker 2: and women who engaged in sexual abuse of minors. And
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  Speaker 2: in Hollywood, for example, we've known for years that this
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  Speaker 2: includes boys. Right, so these are elite men women who
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  Speaker 2: conspired to sexually abuse minors. Now, considering the geometry and
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  Speaker 2: the involvement of women, it's I would be shocked if
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  Speaker 2: there were not also boys involved in this.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely boys, oh okay, absolutely. I mean no one talks
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  Speaker 1: about it because the I think that talking about male
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  Speaker 1: victims makes the whole thing less radioactive, which is why
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying it's like a radioactive that is.
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  Speaker 2: Sort of a disturbing thing, isn't it.
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  Speaker 1: It's true though, it's true, like they won't like there's
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  Speaker 1: absolutely male victims and female perpetrators. I mean, it's shocking
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  Speaker 1: that everyone talks about Epstein and they act like Gladne
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  Speaker 1: Maxwell doesn't exist. She's literally like the madam. She was
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  Speaker 1: the number two, and she's still alive too, like that
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  Speaker 1: she's still around, so like it's not even you know,
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  Speaker 1: like it's like we're just we just forgot she was involved,
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  Speaker 1: right at the highest level, so we have.
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  Speaker 2: That, we have that tendency towards removing male victims. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I personally don't have confirmation that there were boys involved
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  Speaker 2: in this. I'm saying from first principles, I would be
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  Speaker 2: shocked if there weren't, because when women get involved in
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  Speaker 2: stuff like this, women tend to abuse both boys and girls.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean, and I know that there's there is
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  Speaker 2: already a history of these kind of elite people abusing boys.
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  Speaker 2: So I'd be surprised if this was the case that
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  Speaker 2: this was just purely girls. And I would not be
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  Speaker 2: surprised if they are in fact suppressing evidence that boys
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  Speaker 2: were involved simply because it, as Brian was saying, it
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  Speaker 2: muddies the narrative, just like recognizing how high up and
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  Speaker 2: involved women were in the predatory behavior also muddles the narrative,
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  Speaker 2: which is so there's a few points that I would
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  Speaker 2: want to bring one, you know, where are the boys,
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  Speaker 2: and even in the in the overall conversation, because they
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  Speaker 2: don't just say, well this the Ebstein files and all
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  Speaker 2: the girls. They also are saying that this essentially defines
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  Speaker 2: how there's institutional abuse of children, so it's men abusing girls,
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  Speaker 2: which is false. So they're using this case to make
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  Speaker 2: the further case of a particular narrative about institutional sexual
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  Speaker 2: abuse of children. And as you know, long term watchers
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  Speaker 2: will know that we have the statistics that this is false,
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  Speaker 2: that there is institutional abuse of boys in juvenile detention facilities,
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  Speaker 2: there is abusive boys in well just regular in public schools.
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  Speaker 1: It's like seventeen percent of children. And when you think about,
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  Speaker 1: I know, the way it was worded is that they're
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  Speaker 1: you know, children and abuse by staff, at which they
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  Speaker 1: would they kind of like make it non gendered or
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  Speaker 1: non sex like you know, gender language. But if you
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  Speaker 1: consider that most people who work in schools are women,
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  Speaker 1: then it's probably the case that you know, a large number,
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  Speaker 1: if not a majority, of the victims are boys. But
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  Speaker 1: again they say children because they want women included in that.
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  Speaker 1: They want girls included in that, and they say staff
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  Speaker 1: because they want men to be included in that. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm not saying it never happens that way, but if
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  Speaker 1: you look at it, it's it would probably like follow that,
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  Speaker 1: at least in public schools, it's a majority of female
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  Speaker 1: perpetrators and a majority of male victims.
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  Speaker 2: There's no most actual functional difference in a lot of
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  Speaker 2: ways between a public school and a juvenile detention facility.
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  Speaker 2: The main difference is, for whatever reason, we briefly started
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  Speaker 2: to look at sexual abuse in schools and then it
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  Speaker 2: got shut down, Like I think there's one from like
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  Speaker 2: the Toothy ten or something, and then we just suddenly
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  Speaker 2: just stopped looking for some reason like that. The people
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  Speaker 2: who you would think would be interested in finding out
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  Speaker 2: those numbers just for like, hmmm, I got somewhere else
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  Speaker 2: to be.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought victims are just a lot like it's
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  Speaker 1: a lot more.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, satisfying to our What I'm saying is
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  Speaker 3: that there's a particular pattern to what they're willing to
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  Speaker 3: look at, and again, suddenly they just lost interest in
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  Speaker 3: sexual abuse in schools K to twelve just completely.
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  Speaker 2: So we don't have any actual stats. We have a
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  Speaker 2: smaller study that looked only at and only captured girls
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  Speaker 2: having relationship, and I don't want to say relationships. There
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  Speaker 2: was a coersion, of course because of the power differential,
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  Speaker 2: but the girls themselves did not describe it as unwanted,
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  Speaker 2: So I don't want to say that that's not coercive,
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  Speaker 2: but I do want to report accurately on how they
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  Speaker 2: characterized the experience. And then the real issue with these
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  Speaker 2: studies is it captured no abuse sexual abuse of boys.
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  Speaker 2: So if you actually projected from these studies, and it's
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  Speaker 2: a smaller study, it's decades ago, if you projected from
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  Speaker 2: that one study, there would be no abuse boys, and
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  Speaker 2: we know that that's not the case. So you have
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  Speaker 2: to look at that and say, Okay, something's going on
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  Speaker 2: with that study. And then they never repeated it, Like
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  Speaker 2: you would think there would be an investment in finding
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  Speaker 2: out about the sexual abuse of children in K to twelve,
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  Speaker 2: but for some reason, there's no real study. The only
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  Speaker 2: studies that I've seen are actually they are focused on
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  Speaker 2: male victims, and they do show a fairly high rate
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  Speaker 2: of sexual abuse among male victims, and some studies that
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  Speaker 2: show it among female victims, but no overall like institutional
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  Speaker 2: study like you see with juvenile detention facilities. And again,
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  Speaker 2: there's no structural reason why K through twelve should be
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  Speaker 2: different than juvenile detention facilities. I mean, there's it's more
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  Speaker 2: coercive environment in a juvenile detention facility, but at the
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  Speaker 2: same time, you still have the potential for coercion, for
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  Speaker 2: coercion in K to twelve. So if you have women
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  Speaker 2: who are predators, they're going to be drawn to that occupation,
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  Speaker 2: and they're going to be drawn to the power differential.
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  Speaker 2: They're going to be drawn to the fact that they
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  Speaker 2: can identify vulnerable boys to exploit, and they're going to
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  Speaker 2: be drawn to kate through twelve as well as juvenile
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  Speaker 2: detention facilities. And we know for a fact that they're
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  Speaker 2: in juvenile detention facilities and nobody's doing anything about it
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  Speaker 2: because nobody cares. But the overall point I'm trying to
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  Speaker 2: make is that there's not just the conversation about the
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  Speaker 2: list itself. There is a meta conversation that this list
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  Speaker 2: proves that institutional sexual abuse of children just goes one way,
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  Speaker 2: men to girls, and that conversation requires ignoring the fact
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  Speaker 2: the contribution if we want to call it that the behavior,
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  Speaker 2: the situation of the women involved in this as predators,
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  Speaker 2: and it ignores male victims that even if they don't
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  Speaker 2: exist in this context, they sure as hell exists in
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  Speaker 2: the other institutional contexts being abused. So that narrative that
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  Speaker 2: they're spinning is wrong and it and it's and the
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  Speaker 2: second thing that I and this is part of it,
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  Speaker 2: that article is part of it, is not only are
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  Speaker 2: they rendering male victims invisible, Okay, even if Epstein female
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  Speaker 2: victims to follow from that that the pattern is this
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  Speaker 2: is false and I've seen that that narrative starting. But
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  Speaker 2: the other narrative is the women who were involved were
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  Speaker 2: actually groomed, allegedly and even.
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  Speaker 1: Thought they were victims, they were made into monsters.
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  Speaker 2: Were made into monsters. Yes, this is Ghislaine Maxwell was
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  Speaker 2: made into a monster a codependency with.
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  Speaker 1: She totally claimed that too, I think was like one
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  Speaker 1: of her first defenses yea with Epstein.
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  Speaker 2: But so we're groping towards seeing the women involved in
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  Speaker 2: this as victims themselves, all right, and it particularly in
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  Speaker 2: terms of Ghislaine Maxwell. I mean, if you're gonna say
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  Speaker 2: that she's acting out a pattern of abuse. Can't you
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  Speaker 2: also say that about Epstein, like he lived in these circles,
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  Speaker 2: maybe he was traded around as a kid or something.
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  Speaker 2: You know, these are the questions. You can equally say
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  Speaker 2: that about him as her, but we don't. And why
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  Speaker 2: is that? Because we want to make this pattern match
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  Speaker 2: to the idea that men are strictly responsible and their
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  Speaker 2: victims are strictly girls. Which brings me to my third
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  Speaker 2: point that I wanted to bring up, which is you'll
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  Speaker 2: notice how these men Epstein less than for example, Weinstein,
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  Speaker 2: operate within the feminist superstructure, like the liberal superstructure. Like
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  Speaker 2: Weinstein had all kinds of like he actually, I believe,
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  Speaker 2: said he was a feminist and.
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  Speaker 1: He oh, he absolutely was. He championed all those sort
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  Speaker 1: of like lefty liberal causes. That was like a big
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  Speaker 1: and look, the women all loved him until it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: useful like all of the I'm talking about the adults,
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  Speaker 1: you know there were. And that's the thing about Weinstein,
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  Speaker 1: why you know there's a pretty good chance he's going
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  Speaker 1: to beat the charges in the long run or get
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  Speaker 1: an appeal that he's working on. It is because most
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  Speaker 1: of the women, if not all, were adults, and they
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  Speaker 1: consented to this stuff because they wanted to be famous,
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  Speaker 1: and he made him an offer. Now I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it's you know, I don't think it's moral, but it
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  Speaker 1: wasn't illegal and it wasn't what they claimed it was.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, but he was totally a champion of progressivism. Absolutely,
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  Speaker 1: he was in Hollywood. It's Hollywood, like, that's what it is.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were within these institutions, sort of being
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  Speaker 2: shielded by these institutions. And let me see if I
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  Speaker 2: can find the information specific to that. Okay, Weinstein wrapped
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  Speaker 2: himself in progressive and feminist adjacent causes, backing films with
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  Speaker 2: feminist themes, donating a democratic in women's causes, appearing at
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  Speaker 2: events framed around women's rights, and was defended for years
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  Speaker 2: by explicitly feminist celebrities and institutions. And Epstein was not
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  Speaker 2: quite as overt. He he has philanthropy ties, funding institutions
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  Speaker 2: and working through progressive branded networks. So but he didn't
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  Speaker 2: actually call himself a feminist and he didn't I don't
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  Speaker 2: think he championed women's rights. So he was just sort
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  Speaker 2: of embedded in the progressive networks. What I wanted to
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  Speaker 2: point out is that these networks provide cover for men
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  Speaker 2: who are moral voids, who replace actual principled ethical action
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  Speaker 2: with performance of virtue.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And the other thing that's happening here is, not only
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  Speaker 2: did the feminist network provide cover for Weinstein for years,
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  Speaker 2: and you know, progressive adjacent networks provided cover for Epstein
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  Speaker 2: he moved in those circles. Not only did that happen,
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  Speaker 2: but now feminists are looking at this situation and they
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  Speaker 2: are abstracting responsibility off of the male and female elites
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  Speaker 2: who engage in this kind of institutional sex child sexual abuse.
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  Speaker 2: They're abstracting the culpability away from that group and putting
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  Speaker 2: it onto men as a group, which is actually providing
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  Speaker 2: cover for this behavior and the men and the women,
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  Speaker 2: but mostly the men who engage in it, because women
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  Speaker 2: get cover from other things, not just feminism. All right,
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  Speaker 2: So feminism is the handmaiden for this kind of atrocious behavior,
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  Speaker 2: and they only do anything like they only start to
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  Speaker 2: say anything when it's uncovered usually but well almost invariably
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: by the male justice system. And I'm saying that the
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: justice system is masculine because it is something that is
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: constructed by men primarily staffed by men. The entire urge
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: around justice is masculine, and we know that because women
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: don't seem to have the same relationship to punishment as
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: men do. So for example, if somebody who is innocent
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: is punished, men will not like that, but if someone
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: who is guilty is punished, they will like that. Yeah,
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: but women just they they don't want anybody punishings the
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: basis of the justice system. Men understand that punishment needs
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: to happen, and they are They find it probably somatically
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: uh satisfying to punish the guilty. Where do you think
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: the justice system comes from? Where do you think the
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: thing that finds these people and punishes them comes from.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: So we have a feminist institution that's running cover for
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: these despicable human beings. And yes they are so called elite,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: They are incredibly rich. They don't exist in the same
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: level of culpability as we do, and they they derive
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: full benefit from feminist cover it covering them from feminist
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: abstracting their responsibility from these groups to men in general,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: which means it just dissipates because you can't punish men
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: in general for what Epstein did or what Gleaslane Maxwell did,
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: which is even more ridiculous. It just basically means that
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: nobody gets punished. Well, I mean, yes, they do, because
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: the male justice system is operating on this issue, just
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: like it did with the woman in France whose name
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I'm escaping, Like the woman who had her husband drugged
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: her and had men have sex with her while she
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: was drugged while that was found out because a bunch
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: of male French policemen noticed it when she was in
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: a position where she was losing days of time in
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the week. They were actually more aware of her safety
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: than she was, and they started to investigate it, and
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: actual arrests resulted. Well, that's probably the same situation here.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: The male justice system noticed this shit happening and did
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: something about it, but the feminist handmaiden system was caping
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: for it for years and only did something when the
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: male justice system said, hey, this looks sick and started
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: to poke in and start making arrests. And then the
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: feminist handmaiden system came out and started abstracting responsibility off
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: of the elites who engaged in the activity onto men,
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: the very men who stopped it. Like that is the
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: situation that's what's happening. And I'm seeing this everywhere, not
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: just with the Epstein files we can look go away
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: from sexual abuse. I'm seeing it in financial markets that
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: feminists are running cover for men who are rapacious, openly rapacious,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: openly engaging in theft and creating systems where they are
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: capitalizing their gain and socializing their losses and pushing it
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: onto people who have no say in the stupid risks
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: they're taking right, And feminists they're there too, caping for
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: those men and saying, oh wait, it's not these specific
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: men that you could actually apply justice to, it's men
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: in general. And what does that do? It neuters the
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: process of men controlling these robber barons and Epstein's that's
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: what feminism is doing. It's like a vector for evil
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: into our society. It's a handmaid and for the worst
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: impulses as men. And and I don't mean that as
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a condemnation of men. I'm just saying that there are
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: impulses that, you know, not normal men.
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: But there are bad men exist.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Bad men exists, and feminists cape for them invariably. Whenever
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you see some horrific graft or like some disgusting appetite
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: you'll find feminists caping for it by saying, well, no,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: there's not that you don't want to bring these specific
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: men to justice. They're not the problem. It's all men.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: Oh really, no, I think it's these specific men that
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: are the problem feminists. These specific men who other men
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: are trying to bring to justice, they're the problem, not
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: men in general. But you see that, like it's they
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: abstract the culpability off of these groups, put it on
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: all men, and then reduce men's ability to actually control them,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: to actually control this evil. It's a sick fucking system.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: All right, all right, get off my Yeah, let's get
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: into the actual You can.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Start the article now. It's only been a half hour. Okay,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: So this is from medium dot com and uh, written
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: by Jean GIANDU. I guess I don't know. Sounye Previn
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: is horrifying in the Hepstein files. And yes she's still
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a victim. So this is sun Ye here.
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: And somebody is mentioning that Polanski was defended, but yes,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: and I'm not freaking surprised because it's not about morality.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: It is about virtue, signaling power and getting money. They
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: also throw women who are domestically and sexually abused under
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: the bus, you guys.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and one of the one of the boys that
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: was sexually abused as well, that that people forget is
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: he played Willis on Uh what's the name of that show,
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Different Strokes. You know, I had his name in my
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: head just second ago, but it's gone now. But yeah, oh,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: Gary Coleman was one of them as well. I believe so.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: But you know, this was like, this is a problem.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: A lot of boys were being you know, groomed and
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: molested and such. But anyway, the headlines about sun Ye
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Previn have not been flattering lately, not that they ever were,
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: with titles like Woody Allen's wife Sungnyee preven blasts hashtag
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: me too. In Epstein files, Woody Allen's wife say wild blasts. Yeah, apparently,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I'll look at that. In a second. Woody Allen's wife
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: sent wild emails to Jeffrey Epstein supporting Anthony Wiener and
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: Woody Allen's wife's email's wife's wild emails to Jeffrey Epstein
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: revealed Previn's worldview is being rightfully flamed. It has been
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: revealed that she characterizes underage girls as predatory, paints the
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: male predators who molest them as weak and contends the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: men are the ones being taken advantage of. It is
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: truly unequivocally revolting. She railed against the hashtag me too
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: movement for going too far and her brother for getting
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: too much prestige after unearthing the miscarriage of justice against
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: their molested sister leaned on Epstein to get one of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: her daughters in a car and even said this about
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Anthony Wiener's underage victim. All right, so apparently her problem
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: with sun Ye is that she didn't like me too
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: very much and that she also, I guess, engaged in
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: some kind of you know, corrupt and nepotistic behavior with
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: the people she surrounded herself with who were all like
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: rich elites. So Todd Bridges, that's it. Yeah, it was
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: on my mind, and then it fell away Todd Bridges.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: So anyway, that seems to be her great betrayal. Okay,
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: so this is what she said, according to TMZ, I
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: hate women who take advantage of guys, and she is
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: definitely one of them. She knew exactly what she was
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: doing and how vulnerable Wiener was, and she reeled him
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in like fish to bait. Previn said, of the fifteen
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: year old victim, what is her excuse for being a
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: despicable and disgusting person who prays on the week? TMZ.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: This is stomach churning victim blaming. I'm sorry, Alison, go ahead.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: That's just freaking weird.
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: It's weird, is.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: It's And honestly, this this woman does sound relatively despicable.
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: I'm agreeing with this person so far, not that, of course,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: this is going to land on something very ideological in
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: the end, but yeah, she does sounds like a despicable person.
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: Shock despicable people say despicable things.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: Well.
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: The thing is, though, I think that what shocks the
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: author more than anything is that Sun Yee was supposed
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: to be seen as a perpetual, innocent victim of Woody Allen.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: So when it turns out and she's she's not like
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: the girl she was when we knew about that. She's like,
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: you know, an older woman now, like like pretty probably
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: like well into middle age, if not like getting into
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: her senior years soon. And yet the author of this
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: still sees the little girl, so she's like shocked that
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: she could have like, you know, views or opinions that
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: are despicable because there was this idea this like she
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: had this halo, and now it's like, oh, wait, she's
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: a real person that could have, you know, views that
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: I don't agree with, like I don't, I don't know
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: like this. I think that's the more shocking thing because remember,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: like people like this, like like Sun Yi, they they
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: become like they're not real people in the eyes of
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: like people who don't know them, but they just know
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: them from headlines and tabloids and stuff. So in their mind,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: she is only a victim of Woody Allen. That's the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: only capacity she exists in. So when it turns out
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: that she's a whole person and that she might have
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: opinions nobody likes, and you know, she also may be
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: like shitty in her own way. And maybe, like when
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: she says that fifteen year old took advantage of Anthony Wiener,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: maybe she saying something about herself in a way. Because
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: sometimes the stuff that annoys people as usually stuff that
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: they do. It's like, yeah, it's like you know, you
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: you see somebody at work and you get mad at
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: their their their attitude or their behavior or things that
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: they do, and then you realize when you get older,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that that's because you do it, and so like it
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: could be that. I'm not I'm not trying to armchair
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you know, like analyze this, but I'm just saying, like,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: there's a number of reasons why she could have these views,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but this, uh, the writer of this article seems to
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: be putting it into like a black and white thing.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Partly shocked that this woman is a whole person and
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: therefore could have her own views on things. And second
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: leave that.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Huh a whole evil person.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, a whole evil person, right, like exactly, you know.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's well, that's shocking to her. I hate
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: to tell you, but this is the behavior of abusers
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: towards boys too, and they're gonna make this out like
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: this this is some kind of unique thing that people
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: say just about girls. Yeah, they say it constantly about
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: boys too. I just I had an exchange exchange like
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: a year ago over the Adolescent film on Twitter where
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: a feminist basically excused a female abuser of boys because
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: while I watched the Adolescents film, there's no way an
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: adult woman could possibly be in a position of power
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: over a boy. I'm like that that's the same thing
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: right there. This is this is not men versus women,
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it's predators versus everyone else.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: Yep, okay, all right, so this is stomach churning victim blaming.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: It is also exactly how someone in their her position,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: having been groomed by master manipulator like Woody Allen since
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: high school, would have to think about life just to
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: get through the day. See. So there is like she
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: is sort of intentionally making it look like Woody Allen
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: is like has superpowers and did this to her. It's
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: sort of like the thrall that Harvey Weinstein has because
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: they can't imagine that women, even girls, could make these
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: kinds of decisions at all, like on any level.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But anyway, and also this is this exactly how someone
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: in her position. You don't have to explain it that way, lude, lady. Uh,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I'm I have heard how female sexual abusers justify their behavior,
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: and they just towards boys and girls, and they justified
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: in exactly this kind of way. The child was responsible,
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: very common and she did what. They don't need to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: be abused by Woody Allen to frame it that way.
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: So the assumption here is that somehow if a female
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: abuser frames the situation in terms of removing agency from
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: herself and attributing it to the child she's abused. That
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: is something that it could only have come about because
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: Woody Allen groomed her. It's like, no, yeah, uh no
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: that that that doesn't follow. It could be entirely this
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: is her own behavior, all right, this is this is
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: what she thinks because she's an abuse her.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's telling on herself. Like somebody in the chat said,
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: rumble Chris Chris the back and says, isn't previn telling
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: on herself and recognizing male vulnerability, woodies vulnerability. It doesn't
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: excuse the male or female behavior. And again, I'm not
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: saying that that's right or that, you know, I'm not
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: making a value judgment on that. I'm saying that, Yeah,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: she might be saying something about herself in saying those things, right, well.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: She could be saying something about how she views vulnerable kids. Yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: as predatory. She could be saying as a predator looking
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: back and seeing herself as predatory. Even though I don't
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: think she was under age, but regardless, let's continue.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I yeah, I mean I don't really remember. I thought
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: she was. It was borderline or something, but anyway, I.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: Think anything happened after she was an adult.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but I mean it's still weird, you know,
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: but it's weird.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Don't do it like that's just functionally legal.
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: Like Hayden pat Neery hate Hayden patt Neery, the actress
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: that was on the show Heroes. She was like seventeen
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: or something, and then when she turned eighteen, she immediately
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: started dating a guy on the show and they like
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: made it a public It was like, okay, so you
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: were waiting, like it's obvious that something was going on before.
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: It's not like happy birthday, you want to go out
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: like that, but that that's not the way things go.
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, it's a dent. It's weird, but it's Hollywood.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: It's Hollywood, baby anyway.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: It's also I think, as far as I know, it's legal.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I mean it's.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, like I said, it's it's I don't think
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: it's moral, but it is legal and and and it's
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: but yeah, anyway, that that's a really radioactive topic. But
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: let's get into the So if this is not me
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: saying her words are any less reprehensible or that Suon
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yee Preven is a laudable or respec Huh.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: That's exactly what you're saying, you dumbass. Yeah, I'm not
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: saying the thing I just said. You're removing culpability from
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: her by attributing it to another source than the woman. Okay,
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Or that soon. Ye Preven is a laudable or even
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: trustworthy person, She's clearly not, and her take on this
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: situation or any situation involving minor abuse or gender based
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: violence violence should simply not be trusted. And frankly, I
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: am concerned for her daughters having been raised by a
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: predator like Woody Allen and a grooming victim who was
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: completely and totally identified with her abuser and clearly internalize
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: a highly misogynistic worldview. So that's the problem. It's not
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: the stuff that she said, it's that they have daughters,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: and for some reason, she assumes that Woody Allen is
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: interested in his own daughters, which again, that's a stretch.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: If you ask me, I think that that these are
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: like I don't know the man, I don't know what
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: he's capable of. I know that he's like in his
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: eighties or something, so probably not much. But it's it's
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: it takes a lot as a stretch to like make
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: these conclusions. But the purpose of it is that Woody
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Allen in this example is not a person that she
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: is attacking. He is symbolic of men period. So that's
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: why she makes it. She calls it gender based violence.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: That's why she focuses on the daughters. That's why she
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: says that Previn has clearly internalized a highly misogynistic worldview,
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: because it's all about this man did this to this
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: woman who is now doing this to the world and
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: her own kids. But it's because of him, and ultimately
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: he is symbolic of men everywhere, of patriarchy, whatever, So
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: instead of just him being like a weirdo potentially piece
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: of shit.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Okay, So also, this isn't misogyny, like this is the problem.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: This is a predator reporting on victims. Right, This isn't misogyny.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: This is an example of a predator with predatorial behavior.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: And again you can find this behavior in women with
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: no apparent male source. Like I mean, probably everybody who
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: involves has some kind of fundamental wound unless I don't know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: they's sociopaths and they just there's there's psychopaths or severe
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: anti social personality disorder, and they're just aren't checks And
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: they suddenly get into a position where they can forward
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: to engage in any of their appetites and they aren't
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: actually a result of abuse. I don't know. I couldn't say,
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: but there are women, lots of them, who engage in
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: sexually predatory behavior, particularly towards kids, who would say exactly
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: the same thing, and we're not groomed by Woody Allen
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: or anyone really, Okay, yeah, let's keep.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: Going, all right. That said, given what happened to her,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: nothing about Sunye Previn's mentality surprises me. So now she's
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: about to make the case to defend her because of
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: her like she's gonna assume she knows what this person
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: went through. For those who have spared themselves the specifics.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: According to witnesses such as hotel staff who are around
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: during Suny Preven's early sexual exploitation, Woody Allan started molesting
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: her while she was still in high school. This is
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: importantly years before both of them claimed things began. The
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: doorman at Woody Allen's apartment, where Previn would regularly go
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: during her high school punch breaks, confirmed seeing her regularly
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: come in her school uniform and even escorting her up.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: The building manager also testified to seeing her regularly come
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: to Alan's apartment alone during high school. Cleaners at the
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: same apartment confirm finding use condoms, dirty sheets, and other
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: evidence of the moutstation after her visits some HBO show
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Alan v. Farrow Episode two HBO. However, Alan's public story
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: is that it all began when Previn was twenty one.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: The excuse she was legal and even drinking age has
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: been made by plenty of Allan's defenders as weak as
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: discussing as those excuses are, and those flimsy excuses aren't
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: even true. So she's setting up the narrative right now. Now.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: I don't want to get into the details, but it's
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: interesting that she says while she was in high school
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: without saying what her age was. And again, all of
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: this appears to be hearsay stuff, like people said they
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: saw this. I don't know that there's like a smoking
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: gun here, So I don't know. I mean, when I know,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: we're not supposed to like get too much into this,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: but like, as someone who believes in due process and
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: like you know, the receipts, I feel like I'm expected
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to just accept that what everything that she's claiming is true,
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: and I'm just skeptical of all of it. Like I'm
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I'm just skeptical. That's all so all right anyway, Alan
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: admits that taking a regular interest in Sunyi Previn before college,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: taking her to games and out to dinner after school.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: During this time, Mia Farroh unwittingly encouraged a paternal relationship,
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: knowing that Sunny had never bonded with Andre Previn, who
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: divorced me a year after her adoption. Even in twenty fifteen,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: well after Alan and Previn married, Alan would continue to
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: describe his relationship with her as paternal, negating his claims
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: that he was never a father figure to her. Apparently
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: he still is. And on top of being far far
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: too young to understand what a predator like Woody Allen
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: was doing and thus highly susceptible to grooming, Sunnye Previn
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: was learning disabled. By her own account, she struggled to
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: get through high school. She was an adopted kid, born
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: in poverty, dragged halfway across the world, and disabled learning.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: Learning. You never heard that before.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Maybe she's maybe she had dyslexia or something.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like learning disabled. That's do you mean, like, what,
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: what's the usual phrase for that?
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Special needs? Special education?
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: Well, not if we have dyslexia. I mean, you could
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: be incredibly intelligent and.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Just I mean, yeah, I know, I know you could
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: be special needs.
• 42:45
  Speaker 2: Special education usually means something a bit different.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but I mean, yeah, I don't know. I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: don't know. She was Vietnamese or something, right, is that right?
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I don't really remember. I want to find out how
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: old she is because I feel like we're we're infantilizing
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: like an old as Yeah, but again, she's like fifty five.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: The main thing about this when you look at this
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: is that you don't need like so, every time a
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: predator describes a victim in this way, we have to
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: abstract their guilt off because they are were groomed. Does
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: this apply to men as well as women? That's why
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: I asked about the Epstein versus Maxwell thing, right, Like,
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: does it apply to men too? Do we abstract their
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: guilt away to whoever did this to them prior? Or
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: do do they retain guilt for their actions and their statements?
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: And also this is very sex like, this is only
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: going to one sex and I know why it's only
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: going to one sex because they want the entire establishment
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: is abstract acting the guilt away from the elite groups
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: to gauge in this onto men, to reduce the ability
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: to control and punish the elite groups that engage in
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: It's it's basically shielding and caping. Okay, Yeah, how much
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: longer is this article? Because I want to I don't
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: want to get into.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like they're just going into her story.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: Should I skip that.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Part to the end. Let's find her conclusion?
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: Right, all right? Let me see, let me see learning
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: disability blah blah blah. Uh okay, and here's here's where
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: because she's basically okay, here we go, which is why.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: So she basically says that Sunny says, I'm not a retarded,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: little underage flower who was raped, molested and spoiled by
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: some evil stepfather. Not by a long shot. Let's not
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: get hysterical. So she's basically saying I was not abuse
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: who's molested or groomed. So that's what this is what
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: Soon Yee is saying. And of course this is not
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: work for the narrative, like this is going against it.
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: So this is where she this is like the end here.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: These are like the last two paragraphs, which is why
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Sun Yee Previn consistently depresses me in every single interview
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: she's given. She clearly cannot accept any degree of the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: reality of what's happened. And how can I even blame her?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Who would want to admit the truth when this is
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: the horrible reality of her life. You're the groomed prop
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: wife of an internationally renowned pedophile and predator who raped
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: your own sister and is so beloved and powerful that
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: he not only got away with everything, but continued to
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: be celebrated by all society while using you as an alibi.
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: So it's like she's saying, how dare you not consider
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: yourself a victim? You're obviously a victim. I know better
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: than you do. Right, Victims aren't saints. They're people, harmed,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: overpowered people. They shouldn't be held to heroic standards, and
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: I do think coming to terms with such a reality
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: would take a herculean psychological effort. Not being a hero,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: not rising above does not negate what was done, and
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: not growing up to be Virginia Guffrey doesn't automatically make
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: someone Galaine Maxwell hurt people. Hurt people has become a
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: phrase that is used as a cudgel against survivors more
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: than it has ever been used to create empathy among
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: privileged people who will never be able to even slightly
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: empathize with the plain survivors of this kind of this
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: kind of abuse. Have not defying your groomer. Oh I'm sorry, al,
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: do you want to jump in?
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: No?
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Okay, not defying your groomer, especially one this powerful, doesn't
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: negate context and circumstances.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: All of this, all of this is because she doesn't
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: want to acknowledge that this is a potential female predator.
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: That's it. That's all this is. I'm gonna summarize this.
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: You know, we don't really need to go any further.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: And it's because they want to maintain a narrative that
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: abstracts guilt off of the people are doing this in
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: order to shield them and puts it on men in
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: order to reduce the ability to hold these people accountable.
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: Thank you whoever you are.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: Well, it gets better towards the end here. So she's
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: saying she's not a survival survivor, she will not get out,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: she is a forever victim. So she says this, she
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: is a forever victim, and then she says, yes, Glaine
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: is also a grooming victim, so Glaime Maxwell, so is Previn.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: But we are not all the same. Girl. Glaine didn't
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: just dismiss other survivors and engage in victim blaming like Previn.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: She created new victims. She assaulted women, she trafficked women.
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: She provided victims to Epstein in a bid for his love,
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: which she would never get. She is a violent criminal
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: and should be regarded as much such as such. Sorry. Yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: More importantly, Maxwell had far more means to escape well power,
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: social charm, connections, whiteness, oh.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: My god, which is masculinity. Guys.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she and Sunny Preven will never be the same.
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: We can all correctly reject Sunye Previn's worldview, perspective and
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: discount her word and testimony. So let's just dismiss her.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: This was the payload, it was. It was all building
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: up to excuse Giselaine Maxwell to to move the victimhood
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: towards Ghislaine Maxwell. That I think that that was the payload.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: That paragraph on Ghislaine Maxwell in which she made the
• 48:34
  Speaker 2: direct comparison. But she's not the same but she's still
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: the same, right, they're apparently groomed, even though Gislaine was
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: not groomed. Grooming is for children. She wasn't right there
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: that So these two women are the same. So they're
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: buttressing the excuse, the excuse excusing Gislaine Maxwell with this
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: article so that they can cleanly abstract at the guilt
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: onto all men who are probably the people primarily responsible
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: for bringing this travesty to justice because they understand justice.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: So let me and I know she's not gonna even
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: consider this possibility, and I might say something, I might
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: even upset people in the chat. But if her logic
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: is correct, and she says that people like Sunny and
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Galame Maxwell they abuse people because they themselves were abused
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: and there's a cycle, then couldn't you also, yes, consider
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the possibility that Woody Allen was groomed and molested as
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: a child as well or that. And I mean, look,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I don't know the truth. I'm just saying, what if
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: what if it turned out that his like he had
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: an aunt or an older woman and she sexually like
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: molested him or something when he was a child, eld
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: or a very young man, And it's not a wild theory.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: These things happen, and then that sort of like distorted
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: his view on sexuality going forward, and then he started
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: to like live these things out with other women in
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: the future. Then like wouldn't we then apply the same
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: lot But of course, but of course, because he's a man.
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: That's like you know, generalation, general general, Sorry, generational trauma exists,
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: but it only starts with the man that came before
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: the woman. Like that's where it begins, Like, that's that's
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: the that's the catalyst of generational trauma. It doesn't go
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: before that. That came from nowhere. That was just in
• 50:40
  Speaker 1: men from the from the get go.
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: You see that, Yeah, I know, I see that. Yeah,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: And that's that is the ultimate thing, because it isn't
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: about actually looking at a situation and dealing with it
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: in to try to reduce the harm. It is literally
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: about creating a narrative that abstracts culpability off of the
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: people who are engaging in the behavior. And yes, certain
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: people in this context have been brought to justice, right,
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: but there's a culture that is not being brought to justice.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: There's a whole bunch of people who are not being
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: brought to justice, and feminists are abstracting culpability off of
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: those people, both men and women, and onto men as
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: a category, even though again, men are primarily the reason
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: why these people, any one of these people, is being
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: brought to justice. So it's a lovely little cycle of fuck,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: or to say correctly, it is a fuck shit stack.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: Thank you feminists, thank you for this. And yeah, they
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: only give the sucker to women because they couldn't do this,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: They couldn't abstract culpability off of the people engaging in
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: this two men. If they recognize that women do it too,
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: then it goes back to personal choice, and then it
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: goes right back onto the people making those personal choices.
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: You see how that works. If it isn't men and
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: something that an emergent property of men in masculine, toxic masculinity, patriarchy,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: whatever else, then it becomes a personal choice, which means
• 52:22
  Speaker 2: that people making that personal choice are culpable. If it's men,
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: they're no longer culpable, so they can continue to operate.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and it is ultimately just to cover that up.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: So I got a super chow from art Force who
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: gives us fifty dollars. I think he just supported something
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: fifty and then five. I don't where our fundraisers not
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: up yet though, so I don't know where that fifty went.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: But thank you Art Force really appreciate. I'll give you
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: a sound anyways. So come on, all right, So he
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: gives us that, and he says, Eternal Victim would chipper
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: for all those fucks? Thank you Art Force. Yeah, I mean, look,
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: I I'm I'm all for you know, let's just again
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: follow the justice system, give every do do everything properly. Yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: and and don't gender anything, don't don't don't do that.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: But of course these people they see the world this way,
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Like, I mean, we said this
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: on the show many times. They're the likelihood that men
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: who are in prison for sexual crimes almost all of
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: them have had like sexual crimes done to them as children.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: So these people, these feminists, they don't really want to
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: end rape culture, what they would call rape culture. They
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: don't want to end that because if they did, they'd
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: have to look at where it comes from. But they don't.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: They presume it comes from men, like we're just it's
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: just in us, and then they act on that and
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: that's it, like it's there is no, there is no context.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: Men don't have a history before the event. It's just
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: they just are and they did that, right, And of
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: course a lot of the time they didn't do anything.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: They're just women just felt unsafe or decided they did
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: something after they had consensual sex, and then it becomes,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: you know, a crime on top of that. So it's
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: like they don't really want to solve the problem. They
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: want the problem to continue because they get paid.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they want the problem to continue, and they want
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: to abstract culpability because again, it is no longer about
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: personal culpability if it's about men, right, So it's no
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: longer about bringing these fuckers to justice when it's about
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: men as a group. You've just watered it all down
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: into meaninglessness, and you've made it harder for men to
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: police those boundaries. So it's it's it's just a fuck
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: shit stack.
• 54:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, all right, you want to do vierl any
• 55:00
  Speaker 6: then maybe, So.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: We're gonna suppish to Brianny Claire. I had to test
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: the audio on this because yeah, it's working, okay, good,
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: all right, So this video what.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: We're starting right at the beginning, huh.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I have no I have time codes, but the All right,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna play the intro first context, I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: won I want you to see how petty this is too.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Uh Breerney Clair makes the most shallow content that is
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: for about feminism. It really does speak to like the
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: quality of our audience. So this is about Epstein is
• 55:46
  Speaker 1: the man behind women's beauty standards. What, yeah, yeah, he's
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: he's the mastermind behind women's insecurities.
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: Sure, children sexually assaulted Byrony most affected?
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yes, we are victims of this thanks to
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Richard Bierre. He he loves these these women, he loves them.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: All right, So let's play the intro of this, and
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: then I got some time codes.
• 56:22
  Speaker 7: Why is it that there are so many companies that
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: are linked to this creep but limited limited to Justice Victorious,
• 56:27
  Speaker 7: Secret Everconbrie and Fitbath and body Works, to name a few,
• 56:30
  Speaker 7: were owned by Les Wexner, Peter Thomas Roth, este Lloyds
• 56:34
  Speaker 7: and It's subsequent brands there Waxer.
• 56:36
  Speaker 2: So some woman who knew Epstein owned those things and
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: suddenly they're they're connected to him.
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: Well, the thing is is that again, this is why
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: I said at the front of this, at the top
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of the show that there are millions of pages in
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files, millions, and he was or maybe he
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: is as a financier. He was going around and going
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: to parties and like fraternizing with people from all different
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: kinds of industries, you know. I mean he was like,
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: I don't know, he was a fixer, right, he was
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: like the guy, he was a go between. He was
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: the guy you went to to meet other people. And
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: at the top of anything, there's gonna be people like that. Now. Again,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: because there's so many files, it doesn't mean that anytime
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: you interacted with him there was like some sketchy Lolita
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Island stuff going on. Probably a lot of it was
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: just regular business dealings. And then he probably thought if
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: they you know, if they wanted that, like that black
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: market access or whatever, he would give it to them.
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: But you had to know. So it's like even if
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: he like hung out with all these people or met
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: them or talked to them in emails, it doesn't mean anything.
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: But she's just making the association. And because he's at
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: he was operating at this high level, you could literally
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: connect him, I bet with any industry. Like people were
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: claiming that he is responsible for micro transactions in video
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: games because he, like you know, was in correspondence with
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: people from like big gaming companies like Electronic Arts and
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Activision and Blizzard. But that doesn't really mean much except
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: that he gets around, right. It means that he talks
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: to people he could be he could like have gone
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: to like a meeting with the Pepsi company. That doesn't
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: mean anything but that that stuff is a little bit
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: too let's say, like intellectually robust for Brian Nclair. She
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: wants to just create associations and say this person was
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: associated with him, therefore they're bad. Right again, you don't know,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: like you like, I don't know what the extent of
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: it is because there's too much data. It's like too
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: much data.
• 58:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, So based on the published evidence, there's no there
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to be any evidence that Wexner actually joined
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: in on the sexual yeah. Yeah. And also apparently he's
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: alleged at Epstein misapprobed, like embezzled from him.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. But she but like, but
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: Barrieclaire doesn't know that. She just knows his name and
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Lex Wexner's name. They cross paths at one point. Obviously,
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Lex Weckner is a pedophile. This is why I'm saying, like,
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: this is why I'm saying we have to be very
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: very careful. These are very delicate matters that are extremely
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: destructive if they're pointed at the wrong people. This is
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So like, and and I think that
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: very few people are willing and able to compartmentalize that
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: because they have associated association. They have associated anybody who
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: has spoken to Epstein or taken a photo with him
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: or done anything other than something that's actually condemnable, anything
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: at all. They've just said, oh, yeah, you're one of them,
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: wood chipper for you, right, And this is not something
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: you want to do, Okay, So it is not something
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: you want.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: To do Lex western There is no evidence that he
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: engaged in any kind of so Epstein. So okay, Byroney,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: what are you trying to say here? Okay, So Epstein
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 2: was involved, not involved. He was like a financial advisor
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: to Lex westerner Les Wetsner and managed some of his
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: his properties in portfolio. And then suddenly Epstein is responsible
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: for the beauty industry. Well, first of all, why would
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: you make that connection, Like, why would you say this
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: is the big thing we need to focus on here, right,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: that that Epstein's financial dealings with these people who also
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 2: were part of or owned businesses in the in the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: beauty industry.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Well, ultimately, she wants to attack the beauty ideal, and
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: she's using this for female beauty standards. She's trying to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: attack female beauty standards.
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  Speaker 2: Said, with those nails, yeah, with.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Those nails, yes, Well, not for her, but for everyone
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  Speaker 1: else obviously.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I see all.
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  Speaker 1: The other women. This is her way of competing for.
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  Speaker 2: Potato sacks for every other woman. Okay, all right, let's go.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's play a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: More of this model is that we saw on fashion
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 7: runways and in magazines, some of whom didn't even make
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 7: it past their twenties, even botox. Jeffrey Epstein is connected
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 7: to so much of it. How do we reckon with
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 7: the fact that the image that we grew up with,
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 7: with so much stuff that we looked up to, was
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 7: shaped by such a disgusting person. The reveal is that
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 7: Jeffrey's tastes are not just his alone.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, so now we're going to learn that what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: his tastes are men's tastes.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: So now we're doing we're seeing the feminist abstraction happening.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: It's not just Jeffrey Epstein is responsible. Who's an individual
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: who can be held responsible in a justice system. It's men.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Because God knows abstracting his culpability onto all men is
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: going to somehow make the world better by making it
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: more difficult to to bring people like this to justice. Okay, Byrony,
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: let's hear it.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: Remember she said just a little while ago, she was
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: trying to like paint these girls, these women as like underage.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: But she said many of them were just in their twenties,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: which means they were at least twenty one. But she's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: not treating them like adults. She's presuming that because they
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: were in their twenties, whatever that means, that could be anything,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: that could be twenty nine. But she's But the framing
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: is important. This is the thing. These people, they don't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: operate in the world of truth. They operate in the
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: world of optics. What does it look like? How does
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: it make you feel? That's what I'm gonna say. I'm
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: gonna say whatever makes you feel the way I want
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: you to feel. It's not based in truth because they're
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: hiding things in the things that they tell you when
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: they say stuff like that she was barely in her twenties,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Twenty four? Like? What this? But
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: oh no, no, it's that's gross, don't you see? Remember
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: Leonardo DiCaprio, he would date twenty five year old women.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: These people would get up in up, they get all
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: up in a tizzy because what he's in his fifties,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: so he's Leonardo DiCaprio. He can do that. Are you mad? Yeah,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: of course you are, because it's not you that is.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: This is intersexual competition ultimately, And yeah, eighteen is legal,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: and a lot of countries is sixteen. But the point
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: is she doesn't even say that that's art. For as
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: you're you're hitting what I'm saying, you're picking up what
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: I'm putting down. If they were under age, she would
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: have said they were under age, but they were not,
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: so instead she had to suggest that there was still
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: something wrong by saying, well, they were in her twenties.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: Only in the barely in their twenties. She says, barely
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: in her twenties. What does that mean? Twenty one? That's
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: barely in your twenties? Right, Like it's just so manipulative,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: and obvious, and I don't know why people don't see
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: it for what it is. But anyway, Uh yeah, let's
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: go to the first time code.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: So she's Okay, the abstraction.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 7: I've spoken about before, the ideal for women is girls,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: the fact that we still have well meaning people stumble
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 7: and say phrases like underaged women when you.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: Never Okay, let's pause it there again, she says the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: ideal for women as girls. She's trying to say that
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: men are pedophiles because women who look youthful are attractive
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: to them. And beauty is you know, beauty products like
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: makeup and stuff. They are there to make women look
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: more neotonous, which is attractive to men. Therefore, men are pedophiles.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: That's what she's trying to suggest. That's why she's this
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: is like when you this is what they do all
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: the time when you like in gamer Gate again, Gamergate
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: was one of the first to open this up, but
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: they were like, we like, you know, like if you're
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: in the anime, and what what anime girls look like? Well,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: they have large eyes and they're they're neotonous. What does
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: that mean when they look young, they look they have
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: healthy skin, et cetera. So that's attracted to men because
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: men are attracted to fertility in women, which usually looks
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: like youth. And so she's like, oh, you're a pedophile then,
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: even though that's natural, right, it doesn't mean anything, but
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: she has to make this association. So she's using Jeffrey
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: Epstein to make this claim about men at large. That's
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: what the purpose is.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: Abstracting culpability. Abstracting culpability. Okay, let's I'm good, I've seen
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: her do it, all right, Epstein, Epstein is men, yep.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Gislaine Maxwell is like every man everywhere?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: All right? So am I doing the for sure? Yeah?
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: The first time? Code?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, hopefully she talks about what hopefully very far in
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: because I want to get.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I have one, Yeah, I have it spread
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: out pretty good. Okay, all right, So this is in
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: the she's talking. The context is, uh, she's talking about
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: women who are supposedly mistreated in TV and uh and
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: and media.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 7: So the TV host work towards women, girls boys like
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 7: it was really bad.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 2: What she briefly mentions girl boys and then the messaging
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: that girls go okay, let's hear.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: It, well, yeah, okay.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: Constantly was that you had to feel insecure at all times.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 7: Peter Thomas about there's a luxury skincare brand, and he
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: appears in the files. He was keep you agressive scandals
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 7: about the royal family in order to keep Jeffrey in
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 7: the loop, sent Jeffrey gifts for the girls in twenty seventeen,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 7: and also was going over there in order to be
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: able to show them how to use the products. People
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: have been calling for a boycott, even though he himself
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 7: hasn't been proven to be doing any illegal activity, none
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: of the people named have been. It seemingly looks like
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: he sort of knew what was going on.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: However, seemingly looks like sort of new Okay, hold on
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: a second. Uh yeah, so there's a little bit more.
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 7: He says he deeply regrets its time with Epstein. So yeah.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 7: The giant brand Estey Lauder is also in the Epstein
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 7: files as well. Because of Ronald Lauder, alongside another one
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 7: of Epstein's creepy friends, of Leone Black, two billionaires established
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 7: Friends Adventures LLC under the supervision of Epstein and broke
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 7: it a deal to share the art piece, and Lotto
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 7: maintained contact with Epstein's latest twenty seventeen where he was
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 7: meant to be meeting up with him and Peter Thomas.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: Ronie needs to learn what evidence is. Yeah, the guards
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: of financier. He's going to have connections to people with
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: who don't have anything to do with his activities. Not
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: that I not that I defend billionaires very comfortably, Like
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: you know what, okay, billionaires are of They're a class
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: of people that is very questionable, let's put it that way.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm not talking like there are rich people right
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: like probably at about fifty million, and they're rich men
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: who have built something with their own hands and have
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: to deal with people. Right, But once you get into
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: the billionaire club, it's not because you've built something. It's
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: because you are able to capitalize your gains and socialize
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 2: your losses. So you are literally stealing from something, and
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: that attitude of parasitism is going to like, that willingness
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: to exploit others is gonna leak everywhere. So I'm not
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: going to defend billionaires because I think a lot of
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: them are scum. And again I'm not talking about rich people,
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: not talking about men who build their own companies and
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 2: have to deal with people. I'm talking about those guys
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: who end up in the higher echelons and they answer
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: to nobody, and they steal from everybody, and they start
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: to or maybe they even started in the register of
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: seeing everything in terms of personal appetite and exploitation. But
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: there's no evidence, Byrony, you need it. There's no direct
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 2: connection here. Yeah, and you probably should have one before
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: you start conjecturizing about Epstein being responsible for the beauty
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: industry because he touched the finances of guys who own
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: beauty companies. And of course this is the salient thing, right,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: you know, uh, institutional sexual abuse of children, but skin
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: products like don't buy them.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you're not gonna die, byrony if you pull,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: if you just wash the neotany off your face, because
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure you're not that neotanous without all of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 5: that product on your face.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 2: Right, you're talking about, Oh, why these people, these men
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: are pushing neotany. What do you think you're Mascara and
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: your blush and everything else you've got on your face
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: is pushing like without these men, Byrony, you'd have to
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: look in the mirror and see what you actually look like.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to. You wouldn't be able to construct
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: a fantasy on your face. You'd have to live with reality.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: And then she's turning around and saying, oh wow, this
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 2: do you really want to live in reality?
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: Byronnie?
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: Do you think you can handle that? Okay? Is that
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: Caddie what I just said?
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: That's okay.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: She's like going after the thing that allows her to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: live in the fantasy that she obviously wants.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I guess it's so easy for her
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: to criticize it. She's just you know, taking things for
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: granted as usual. All right, it's.
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: About body, hair wrinkles, body size. How do I feel
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: like I should be compliant and polite and never make
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 7: it fast?
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: Like I'm just not gonna say what were that escalated?
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's talking about how like this that this is
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: like something that is put on women, so they there
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: men's expectations. Uh, and they basically affect women's insecurities. And
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Epstein that comes out of him because he again he
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: nose or speaks to people in the beauty industry. So
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: all right, let's hear it again.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 7: Also held by many men. I've been seeing people grapple
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 7: with questions such as do I actually like this? Or
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 7: do I like this because a creepy PERV taught me
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 7: that I should like this? Why do I have so
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 7: many insecurities about body, hair wrinkles, body size? How do
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 7: I feel like I should be complaning, polite and never
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 7: make a fat irony?
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: Wash wash it off your face?
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, live it live. It's like, oh, I'm in the system.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: I can't escape you think about my nails, my pedicure.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: This is the same thing I get into arguments with feminists.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 2: I'm like, well, do you have are where? What's the
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 2: plan for building film toopia?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: How are we? How are we escaping men's world? Nothing?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: All right Byrony. If you don't like it, live it,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: live the alternative, Take the crap off your face.
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, there's six women that didn't actually call the comps. Okay,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: I'm just not going to say anything because that's what
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: he told me to do.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 7: What about the complicity of all at the top.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: Do you see this woman says I'm not going to
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: say anything, that's what he told me to do, And
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: there's no one says, well, why did you listen? Why
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: didn't you like say something? Even if you couldn't at
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: the time because you were too young. Why didn't you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: like realize it and do something immediately instead of getting
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: like a spot on NBC, like pote your Instagram or whatever.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to set that aside. What is the
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: solution to this byrony? If women are constantly in the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: thrall of men, what are your solutions? Like? What? Yeah, yeah,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: of course, but to who if women are to men?
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 2: All right, but bear with me. Women are in the
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 2: thrall to men, and your solution is to complain to
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: men that doesn't get traction, that it's just spinning. But
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: but here's okay, that's the solution to complain to men
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: to get men to do stuff, apparently, and at the
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: same time as your only solution is to throw yourself
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: apparently on the mercy of men. You say that men
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: have no mercy. But here's the other thing, like, what
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 2: is a final solution to all of this?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: You say that men keep women in all that men
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: keep that men keep women in their thrall. Women cannot
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 2: be free in a society where there are men, which
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: is interesting coming from a woman who's in a relationship
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: with a man. Are you in his thrall? How do
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: you know, bry Renie, how do you know what your
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: spouting isn't just thrall speak that's been projected into your
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: head by a very very clever and clever patriarchal gambit. Right,
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 2: get them, get the women's to to constantly offload their
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: agency so they never never escape the trap of depending
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: on men. Oh God, damn all right, let's let's hear what.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: There's another left.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 7: I think an uncensored version of this video. I am
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 7: censoring some words because I don't want this video to
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 7: get demonetized because when that happens, the reach of the
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 7: video goes down. And I want us to be able
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 7: to have these important conversations because there has been a
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 7: lot of stuff which has happened which I think we
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 7: really need.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: To be important conversations. Okay, the important conversation is not
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: institutional sexual abuse of children, but that somehow women are
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: being forced to purchase Beauty Project products. They're just like
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 2: they go in into I don't know, a makeup store,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: and the beauty products they're just they just they send
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: out like brain waves to the women and then they
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: purchased me Epstein make you like. That's what we need
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: to focus. I can't even believe that she'd have the
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: audacity to make this video at all, Like this.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Is it's gross? All right, let's go here.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 7: I ever think that someone like Jeffrey Epstein was behaving
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 7: inappropriately when he was completely comfortable with this sort of behavior.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: It's hard to say how much of it it worked.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 7: Victoria's Secret angels really.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: Had presenting a reflection how men's expected you. No, Victoria's secret.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: She's talking about Victoria's secret and it's leadership enabled inappropriate
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: behavior and misogyny. Uh, that's what she's claiming. Because he
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: had an association with Epstein of some kind. So is
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: that is that is victorious? Is Lex Wexner the Victoria's
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Secret guy? I don't know what it's from what?
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: So? And the fact that Lex Wesner says that Epstein
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 2: embezzled a whole bunch from him, that doesn't matter, Like no, no, right, okay,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: yeah definitely. Not only not only are women in Epstein's thrall,
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: but apparently Epstein's financial clients are also in Epstein's throw
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: and they're still in Epstein's Like, here's the other thing.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 2: Epstein is now dead, does his thrall continue to operate
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: even after he's in the grave.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: Lingers it Lingers not dead?
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, how does that work, Bryanny? Is
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 2: it just pooling out of his grave and going everywhere?
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: Has the has the beauty industry fundamentally shift shifted since
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Epstein died? Right? Do you no longer get the beauty
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: the the products that you used to get when Epstein
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: was alive byrony, Has any of that changed? Or are
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: these men being controlled by Epstein from beyond the grave
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: and that's why nothing has changed? And not just that,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Not only are the men being who own these these
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: companies being controlled by Epstein from beyond the grave, the
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 2: women who these companies serve. They give these products so
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: that women can look young longer, right, they can look
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: better than they actually are, which is of course a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: patriarchal ploy, right, a patriarchal ploy to to do something
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: awful to women. The women somehow are receiving the Epstein
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: thrall through the products made by the men who are
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 2: being controlled by Epstein beyond the grave. Why does anybody
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 2: treat this, what she's doing, as anything but contemptible hamster
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 2: like just this is just, this is just, this is
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: on every level, incoherent, brain killing, mental bullshit. Thank you, Richard, yep, Okay.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: All right, there's a little bit more in this one.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 7: Standards. We also saw how the models were treated. They
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 7: had to laugh off harassment all the time. This was
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 7: stuff that taught us how we should be behaving too.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 7: The beauty standards of the nineties in the two thousands
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 7: to early twenties.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: What if if these models were harassed, what were they done?
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 2: Was it done in public? Were weird?
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Want someone think of the multimillion dollar models that worked
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: at Thevictoria's Secret. Want someone please think of those ladies.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: Not the children that are being molested on the island somewhere. No, no,
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 1: not the spirit cook you know, children was probably I
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: don't know, getting their blood drained and put in the sausages.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: I don't know what they were doing. But just like
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 1: the children. Wait, but what about the Victoria's Secret supermodels
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: that were getting paid hand over fist and they experience harassment,
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: which again I don't see receipts for. I just see claims.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's the thing. It's all just claims all
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: the way down. All right, Let's is there like a
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: there a concluding time code to this or do we
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 2: have to go through another seven of them all?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 1: No, No, I'm gonna let me finish this one twenty
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: seconds and then I'll jump to the more like I
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 1: have ten, but I can jump to the ones that
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: make me.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: Arms.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: I she's probably double jointed. No, I think that's a
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: real woman. It does look a little weird though, like
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: she's like, yes, she was like.
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: An X men with the power of.
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 7: Really was about being as young and small and childlike
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 7: as possible.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 2: I didn't need breakfast. Oh man, that guys sounds so straight.
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 2: That's that's the patriarchy. That's the voice of the patriarchy.
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: You'right there, yep. Two.
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 7: They were mopped constantly on TV. One of my patrons
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: was bringing up how much like they saw the mistreatment
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 7: towards Brittany and.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 2: And this is somehow related to I.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: Need to expect.
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 7: I've spoken about how creepy TV hosts were towards women, girls,
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 7: boys like it was really bad. The messaging that girls
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 7: got constantly was that.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: We already times, we already had to all times. That
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: was the thing I was looking for.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, boys are just removed, Like she briefly mentions
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 2: boys because you have now because of us, because we
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 2: But then she just glosses over it to all the
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: insecurities the girl's face. Okay. I hate to say it,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 2: but I find the sexual abuse of minors to be
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: more important than your insecurities Byrony, especially since I don't
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: see any evidence that you're making an effort to overcome them.
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, you're living with these horrible insecurities, but you
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: seem very happy with them, perfectly fine putting them on
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: your face. Okay, let's uh.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 1: How much is a different thing where she talks about
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: Epstein's attitudes, uh with eugenics controlling women's bodies and how
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: it ties it to a broader right wing, male dominated agenda,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: even though Epstein was a progressive, like we know that much,
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: but go ahead, let's let's go ahead, girl was.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 7: Also done by Epstein himself. Virginia about this in her
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 7: posthumous memoir. He was really fixated on making sure that
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 7: they were all eating really healthy diets. He was big
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 7: into eugenics and also creating a master race of children.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 7: You know. The ranch was where he wanted to be
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 7: able to have like his harem of girls producing children
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 7: for him. He was into doing this stuff before the
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 7: Silicon Valley bros came around and now today.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: You're okay, so he's basically just got the standard psycho tool,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: the standard psycho what does it want to what is
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 2: the standard kid that like video character, like an RPG character.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 2: Race comes with, I don't know. I'm I'm searching for him. Okay,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm going off into the weeds. All right, he's
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: he is, He was a bad they exist, so why.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a really Look, he was a really high
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: status man, which means he had access to women and
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: he could have multiple partners. Yes, this is just ginocracy.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 1: Women created this in their own way. They contributed to this,
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 1: and he just takes advantage of it. But Branny doesn't
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: like that same thing. What she's trying to now connect
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk to him because Elon Musk has, like, you know,
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: lots of kids everywhere. He's he's for whatever reason, and
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 1: he wants to spread his seed everywhere. But you know what,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: to me, that's just like your prerogative, bro, Like I
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: don't it's not my bag. But he can do it,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: and there's a lot of women lining up to do it.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: So I don't understand what the problem is. And this
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: is the thing, like she always acts like women are
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: not at all a part of this equation, like they
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: never say. When Elon Musk went up to Ashley Saint
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 1: Clair and got her pregnant, he asks her, I guess
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 1: I presume he didn't roofy her with like, you know,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: his seed. He basically was like, you know, carry my baby,
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: and she was like, yes, daddy, and she did it,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: and then of course she tried to like get money
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: out of them later, But that was that I don't like.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, you can call it immoral if you want to,
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: but based on what like this is, again, it's not illegal,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: it's I don't, I don't. I don't know if it's evil.
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's unethical in a way, but whatever. Like that,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: women are the ones that are saying yes to this, though, the.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 2: Problem is, how do you argue with that she's removing
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: women's right to make choices that she doesn't like right
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: and and it's because she doesn't. And that's the funny thing.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: It's like she wants to create this ultimate culpability for men, yeah.
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 1: You can, and none for women, Like women are literally
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 1: asking to have to get babies by these rich men
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: because they want the status, they want the benefits of that,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: and so she's like, no, that's not happening. They're they're
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 1: doing something to the women. That's why she has to
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 1: frame them as young, like to like underage or innocent
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 1: or unable to make choices.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: You know, did Epstein have kids?
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know for I mean, from what
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: I heard, he was like here, the funny thing is,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know, No, he does. He does. He did.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: He was trying to make a lot of babies from
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: a lot of different women, supposedly, And I don't know
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 1: if it was done through IVF or the old fashioned way,
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: maybe both. I know that like Elon Musk was doing
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 1: it through IVF as well, or like, you know, like
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: basically he wasn't like actually physically having sex with women.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 1: But you know, it's a weird thing, like there's only
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 1: something billionaires come up with.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: I guess, but yeah, they're fucking weird, Like billionaires are
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 2: just you cannot look at billionaires and conclude anything from men.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: From these men, it's like that that's these guys are fucked.
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 2: But well, looking at this, he doesn't he doesn't have
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have children. So if he even if he said, Okay,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: I want a harem of I don't know, I'm going
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 2: to create uberminch from my seed. I don't know. That's
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 2: a bit of a stretch. But whatever, he doesn't.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: But that's what she's suggesting. That's why she uses the
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 1: word eugenics. Eugenics is relatively benign word that just defines something.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: When feminists use it, they're trying to make the correlation
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: to Nazis. They're trying to do that, which is ironic.
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 1: But Jeffrey Epstein, I don't know if you guys know
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: where the word Epstein comes from. But it's not German.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: It's not German.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 2: But my point is he says he wanted this. How
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 2: come he never got it? If he had so much power,
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: I think he might have kids. I just don't know.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 2: No, I just checked. He probably doesn't.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Okay, it's most likely that he couldn't get it, going, Yeah,
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: what what.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: He couldn't get Apparently he could sex traffic, but he
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: could not create a harem of women who wanted to
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: have his kids.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: Concubines, right, concubines.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, that never really worked out. For him. But my
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: point is, doesn't that suggest that his power was constrained
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: or or ultimately that he didn't want that? Like, I
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: don't know, maybe.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe I think, and so that we can we can
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: condemn all men.
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, so Epstein wanted to have a harem of
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 2: Newbile women to have his children. I feel like this
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: might be that the fantasy might be more common but
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: also not particularly awful, you know, but but he never
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 2: got that despite having all this power, this transgressive power,
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 2: and now men something.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he wanted to live tenchi muyoh.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you wanted to make but now men men something something?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 2: Men? Yeah, right, you get it, she's saying. Men. Yeah,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: that's that's all she needs to say.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 1: It's true. All right, Let's do the rest.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 7: Of this the same, the exact same stuff as Jeffrey Epstein's.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 7: That's why I'm always like side eyeing them. Jeffrey didn't
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 7: do drugs, drink or smoke, but he cared so much
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 7: about the way that someone looked. The right body was
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 7: not overly muscular, but it was small though, especially for women,
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 7: as this Vanity Fair piece shares. A friend of Maxwell
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 7: said she used to joke about keeping herself ray of
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 7: thin because Epstein light thing. Girls, this is a really
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 7: disgusting joke.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 4: Is a warning.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 7: She said, I do it the way Nazis did with Jews,
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: the Auschwitz diet. I just don't eat. We still really
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 7: hate Maxwell.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Yeh, we still really hate Maxwell.
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: So I mean, obviously Jo also Holocaust joke is beyond
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: the pale. But you appropriating victimhood from sex traffic children
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 2: is not, Byrony.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: You know it's it's like she's she's like in a
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know, Oliver, I think this is the right one,
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: Oliver twist stealing his porridge or something. No, it's not
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: for you, like from like starving Victorian children Byrony goes
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: back and steals their bread that's mine. Is there no depths?
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 2: There are there no depths that you would not plumb
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: for victimhood Byrony, because here you are attempting to seize
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: it from sef from sex traffic children, attempting to seize
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 2: it for yourself from them.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, well no there are not. All right, let's uh,
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 1: let's keep let's keep going. This is the next bit,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: is she's going to talk about how men in leadership
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: normalize abuse that dis back towards women. So this is
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: like the real because she getting to the end, so
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: she really has to scare her audience.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 4: Okay, would be the greed this country in the world,
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 4: and we can't protect children and these people don't stop
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 4: doing it. We downput. We have a president that runs
• 1:31:19
  Speaker 4: women through the mud, and you you don't think that
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 4: other generations are watching that, younger people and saying, okay, well,
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 4: if the president can say grab them by the why
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 4: can't I.
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 7: Beg to my question at the start of this video,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 7: do I like this or do I like this because
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: a pervy creep told me to? I argue it can
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 7: be both. All of us, whether we want to believe
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 7: it or not, are shaped by the.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Cot Oh good lord, myrony.
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: Fuck, let's have a conversation about having a conversation. I
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: have a conclusion, but actually I'm not going to answer
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 1: it because I'm going to say both. Why Because I
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: don't want to upset my audience by saying they shouldn't
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 1: get beauty products or care about what they look like.
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: But I also do want to upset the part that
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: doesn't like that, So I'm not going to say anything
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 1: and I've just wasted your time for half an hour,
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: But I will blame men for this conundrum.
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 2: What is your freaking what is your solution? Byrony? You're
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: all in the thrall of men, all in the thrall
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: of Epstein's ghost, right, you're all women. They have no
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 2: independent action. Ever, what's the solution? Is it continuing to complain?
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: Is that a solution? How do you get into out
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: of your extistential prison? Byrony? How do you get out
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 2: of it? Do you just continue to whine? Because that's
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 2: not getting out of your existential prison. I want to
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: see movement towards getting yourself out of your existential prison
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: before I recognize your assertion that it's so horrible, because
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 2: people who are motivated to get out of something often
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: get out of them. And the problem here is I'm
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 2: seeing that no feminist is making any movement to get
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: out of the existential prison they are apparently in, because
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 2: they are all caught in the thrall of men, all
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 2: of them. I this woman is asking me to give
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: up autonomy over my own mind. I want something in
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: exchange for that, Byrony. No, Actually, I'm never gonna you
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 2: know what I'm never going to accept that deal, but
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: I want it sweet and beyond whatever this is, right,
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: I want to see what are you willing to do?
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: How Okay, if I accept that men have this power
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: over my brain that you say they do, I want
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: to see evidence that you have some method to get
• 1:33:53
  Speaker 2: out of it. Okay, And I've i none of this
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 2: is real, so there's no point of even entertaining it.
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like it a tiel. There is right.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 2: This is narcissism. They're like men are the demi urge.
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: Good lord, oh good, all right, let's get the rest
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: of this.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 7: It's information. We could be part of helping each other
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 7: or hurting and blaming each other. And I know which
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 7: side I'd rather my audience members to be falling on.
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 7: We see things that made us really happy as kids,
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 7: things that we wanted to emulate, to own, to wear.
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 7: Maybe we weren't able to do it at the time,
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 7: and so people are doing it now. And that doesn't
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 7: mean that you're a monster because of it. Did Epstein
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 7: solely create this focus on child light? Looks No, that
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 7: has existed for a very long time, sadly, Yeah, since
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 7: the beginning of marriage.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 1: It's women. This is like this is there. This is
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: why there's no She can't offer a solution because even
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: if we thought it was a problem they needed fixing,
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: which I don't think is they would have to ask
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: women to change their preferences. Which is why she's trying
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: to like make this work, where she's like, well, you
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: can have your makeup and you're pink and your lingerie
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: and all of the cute things and your accessories and
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: your purses, but let's just like not attack each other
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 1: over this and realize it. If you do feel if
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: you feel oppressed by this, that's men's fault. If you
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 1: like it and feel empowering, well that's feminism's fault. We
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: did that, We made you that, right. She's trying to
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: work these things out, but ultimately they don't want to
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 1: buy the problem. They don't want to solve the problem
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 1: because there isn't a problem and they know that.
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this is this is where I'm at. All
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 2: of this stuff is supposed to be horribly oppressive, but
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: at the same time, women aren't fools for choosing it. Yes,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 2: see this so basically it's just as bad as slavery,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 2: but women choosing the manacles is not you can't judge them.
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 1: They're just matching bracelets at that point.
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: This is what what I was trying to get at, Like,
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: it's it's absolutely so this is the worst thing that
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: could ever happen to women, But don't judge them for
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 2: choosing it.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 1: All right, that's it, basically.
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: I don't but I'm not this.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to do that? Do you want
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: me to really quickly do the other thing?
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 2: Yes? Just do the misogyny you spect.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna We're gonna go to this other
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: video by Brianny Claire. This one is about the manisphere.
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: Ultimately what also a Richard request?
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's also cursed. But okay, so I'll just
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: give you the short and dirty of this one. So
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 1: the basic short version of.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: This is.
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: It is a video about the manisphere and like unrealistic
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: beauty standards for men, which sounds promising, but ultimately it's
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: the fault of men. It is a toxic masculinity discussion.
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 1: And the truth is, this is the thing that's really
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 1: interesting about it, because I've actually thought about making a
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: video about this topic myself. Young men are this looks
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 1: maxing thing that you guys are probably seen going around
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 1: else you know what the looks maxing thing that guys
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: are doing. It's actually like they're doing damage to themselves
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: because they're trying to look attractive to women and that's
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: the primary motive for this. Now, I don't think they
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: should do that obviously, Like they're doing stuff to make
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: themselves taller, like breaking their their thigh bones and their
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 1: shin bones to get a few inches of height. They're
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: you know, damaging their their jawline to make to get
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: their jaws square. You have these like really like crazy
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: famous dudes like Clavicular like online that are judging men
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 1: on their looks, but that they won't admit that this
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: came out of what women were saying they wanted, and
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 1: men are trying to respond to that as they have
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 1: always done throughout history. When women say this is what
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: we're looking for, men try to become that thing. And
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 1: what I think is that men should not do that
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: because women don't know what they want, and instead they
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 1: should just do themselves and you know, work with that.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: But they are unfortunately allowing women's preferences to affect their
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: behavior and they're engaging in harmful behavior to themselves, like
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 1: young guys are taking steroids and peds and other gear
• 1:38:47
  Speaker 1: to like look muscular, and I'm talking like at a
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 1: young age. It's gonna be very bad for them. They're
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 1: gonna have heart problems and all this other stuff. But
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 1: they're trying to attract women. And what she's doing in
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 1: this video is saying women are not doing that, and
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: men are doing that to each other, like men are
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 1: are encouraging this in other men. So she's blaming men
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: patriarchy for men who are engaging in very risky self
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 1: harm associated behavior in order to look attractive to women.
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 1: And women are straight up for that, like they like,
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 1: they're like this clovicular guy who is a complete asshole.
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 1: He has women all around him all the time. I
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: wonder why. I wonder why, you know. But she's gonna say, no, no, no,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: that's not what this is about. But what were you
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: gonna say, Alison.
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 2: So women's beauty ideals are the result of Epstein's ghost, right,
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: and men's beauty ideals maybe also this result of Epstein's ghost.
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: Well, she doesn't mention Epstein in this video much, but
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: but it.
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 2: Would make more sense, don't you think, Like, let's let's
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: attribute it all to Epstein's ghost.
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 1: Wellin's like after a giga chat. But I would say
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: it's the fault of the Manisphere.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: That it's the Manisphere. It's the Manisphere. Really did did
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 2: the Manisphere create romance covers? Did they do that too? Byrony?
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 2: So she can't allow any culpability. So essentially, women's beauty
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 2: ideals or beauty the beauty industry is a result of
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 2: Epstein's ghost and it's absolute, the most horrible kind of
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 2: oppression in slavery. But she won't condemn women for choosing
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 2: it because that would be bad. But here, the Manisphere
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 2: is forcing men to look good, to look like heroes
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: on the cover of romance novels, and it's the Manisphere
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 2: doing that, right, not women, Not women the Manisphere. Okay,
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: actually these two are very very complimentary if you think
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in a way. All right, all right, let's jump
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: to the one thing. Okay, the one she goes through again,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: all of it, her content's all the same. I don't
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: know why Richard sends videos because it's always the same.
• 1:41:19
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, her message is the same,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 1: you know, it's all about how many like I'm gonna
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: blame patriarchy for something, and then I'm gonna attach every
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: single current male figure to the thing that I'm demonizing,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: so that the morons in my audience will associate my
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 1: ridiculous claims of patriarchy to these men that I that
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: they were told not to like, while also claiming that
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing that to them. But the system is, like,
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: you know, when she says, do we like these things
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: because we like them or because this like some pervert
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: telling us to like them? Yeah, you mean like yourself, right,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: So so this is basically the latest version of Oh,
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: here's you know, like the the Americans want the hockey
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: the Olympic hopy hockey game, and that was like a
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 1: big deal for a while, and of course she's upset
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: by that for some reason, probably because it was America.
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 1: She hates America, she just does, and it's because the
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: Orange Man runs it right now. So basically everything associated
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: with that has to be used as a tool to
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: like get her audience angry, because that's what the goal
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: of her video is so like towards and this whole
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: video is just that. It's like, oh, patriarchy is reinforced
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 1: by in cells, by the manisphere, which is the same
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: thing to her, and that means guys like Clovicular, these
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: looksmaxing guys, which are not manisphere guys. But whatever, we're
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: just connecting everything to that at this point. And like
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: Cash Patel of the FBI and Trump and ICE, all
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: of that ICE are in cells. You guys know that
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: ICE are in cell White supremacists that, by the way,
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: are made up of a highly disproportionate number of you know,
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: black and latinos. But whatever, we're not gonna bother ourselves
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 1: with details. They're the enemy, so they're they're white supremacists.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: White ICE agents are the white people of ICE agents.
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they are the white people of of of ICE agents.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: So anyway, and towards the end, she basically has a
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: thing where she talks about what what is it that
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: men like, how do we know a good man? And
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 1: she has a little a little chart you might.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: Say, okay, so.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so how do we know?
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: No, these women don't know what a good man is.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: No, we.
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: Is basically the performance of a psychopath or some a
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 2: man who's broken. That's it. That's what that's what they
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: select for. Yeah, okay, And how did we go from
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: the manosphere male beauty ideal. You know, men do it
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 2: to themselves to how do we find a good man?
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 6: Like she's talking about the boys club, so like this
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 6: becomes a thing about the rich boys club, which apparently
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 6: the hockey players and you know all these the clavicular
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's like a pretty rich guy.
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: I think. I don't he's like a Nepo baby though,
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: but I mean whatever, Like I mean, I don't care really,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: but you know, it's it's all and again. You know,
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: when these people talk about the manosphere, they have they
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 1: focus on specific people because what they don't want is
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: to actually talk to people in the men's space. They
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: don't really want to talk to them, not the ones
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: that actually have something to say, so that they'll just
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: talk to the ones or about the ones that are
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: the easiest to you know, sort of present as something
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: to use to condemn what we're talking about on this
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: channel all the time. So they just use that. And
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with those guys existing. I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: know some guys are like, we have to we have
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: to condemn. I don't really care. It's a waste of energy.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: They're gonna do it anyway. It doesn't matter because they
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: they know that there's like good people doing good work
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 1: in this area, and so their purpose of focusing on
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 1: those other guys is to keep people from looking too
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: close because they might find people like us. So that's
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: the reason she does it. And nothing's going to change that.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: No amount of disavowing of people is going to change that.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 1: So because they want to control the narrative, but they
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: are losing it. They're losing it. That's why they keep
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: having to make documentaries and films and stuff about the manisphere.
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 1: I know there's a documentary coming out this month, a
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 1: couple of them actually, one on in Cells and one
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: on the Manisphere. I forget the guy's name, some English guy.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: And it's because they are in fact losing the narrative.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 1: And that's because they're upsetting. They're losing men. Men are
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 1: walking away, they're not contributing, they're basically checking out, and
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, what do we do? And they have no
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 1: tools to deal with that. They have no tools.
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 2: So oh, it's worse than that, because yeah, the corruption,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 2: Like when I say that feminists are abstracting culpability, there
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: is so much corruption, and then the process of doing that,
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: they are actually destroying the very foundation of our civilization,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 2: Like it is an absolute rats nest. Oh sorry, let
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 2: me use the metaphor again. It is a fuck shit stack.
• 1:46:10
  Speaker 2: And but I'm just I'm just finding it remarkable. She's
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 2: talking about men's beauty ideal and it still like lands
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 2: back onto men. And if women really wanted to, like,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 2: I don't know, tell men that they don't, you know,
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: they're not interested in the you know, six foot five,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 2: blue eyed finance guy. They could date the the five
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: eight you know nerd. They could they could give him
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 2: a chance. Hey, then then they would demonstrate that the
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: beauty ideal is not basically destiny for men. But but
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 2: why don't you say that? Byrony, Like why don't you
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Why don't you say why don't you Why aren't you
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 2: saying like, because the funny thing is is are these
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: five foot eight men like shoving women out of the
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: way and being like, I gotta I gotta go break
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: my shin bones so I can have an extra inch
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 2: and juice so I have an eight pack, And they're
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: just pushing like they're just pushing women out of the
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 2: way who were like, but I love you the way
• 1:47:20
  Speaker 2: you are. Yeah, happening. Oh God, I'm just thinking back
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: to that again, that panel that we watched. Remember all
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: of those guys were tall and fit, and they were struggling. Yep,
• 1:47:38
  Speaker 2: they were you know, like one of those guys was
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: very fit, and all of them were struggling. And the
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 2: one guy with a woman, she wasn't committing to him,
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: she wasn't locking it down for no. And they're paired
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 2: with a bunch of disregulated baboons. And I'm like looking
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: at this and like, these guys are failing. Now, these
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 2: are the new in cells? Are they?
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 4: Like?
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think any one of them was
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 2: under six foot, right, we taller.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Than the ladies, and you know, with girl math, six
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: foot means taller than me.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. But they were all, like I said, they were
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: all fit. They all demonstrated that they were willing to
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 2: step up to a relationship. They all had their lives
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 2: in order, like they were working. They're ready to you know,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 2: provide for a family, to put a family first, and
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 2: they're paired with a bunch of disregut did did the
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: people who created that panel realize what they were doing
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 2: or is that really like just a sub.
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: Around They didn't realize what they were doing.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: So that is just a random subset of women. Now,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 2: it's just you just pluck them out randomly and you
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: get four dysregulated baboons. Just how oh god? All right,
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: but I'm just saying, if men like that are having
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: trouble getting locked down in the dating industry, then whatever
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: Byrony is saying about the it's it's ridiculous, right, the
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: standards are ridiculous. And of course she's not gonna admit it.
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, let's listen to her think behavior.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 7: This is follower behavior that we're seeing from everyone. So
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 7: what can we actually do now? People like to often
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 7: think about like good versus bad guys?
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: As could just say that did you say did you
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 2: just say that this is follower behavior and men?
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: You talking about the alpha?
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, she said that this the alpha sigma whatever
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 2: is follower behavior and men probably the or what what
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: is she actually saying that men?
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 1: The transcript, Yeah, they don't go back. No, no, I'm
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: not going to go back. I'm going to read it
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 1: from the transcript.
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: Okay, Cat Black has spoken about it in this video. Okay,
• 1:49:59
  Speaker 1: Cat Black was that Frans activist from back in the day.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 1: It gave a lot of young, angry, misogynistic men this
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: sort of space to come together and talk about how
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: much they hated women and how frustrated they were with women.
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: And for a lot of people, that was the community
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 1: that they felt they were missing. And you know, that's
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: kind of the sick part of it. The FBI was
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: trying to hide documents that Trump was found in the
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 1: Epstein files. Not true. They were the ones that put
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 1: him out, so whatever, and I wonder why that could
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: have been happening. But also there are so many of
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: his followers who do not care that he was in
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: the files because the biggest thing to him is loyalty.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: Once again, this is the boys club, and I go
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 1: over the scale. This is the admiration for Daddy Trump,
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 1: who is going to save everybody. Oh, we have to
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: go through a bit of pain here, trust me. But
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 1: you'll get that candy bar at the end of the
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: day if you do what I want you to. Once again,
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: this is not leader behavior. This is follower behavior that
• 1:50:46
  Speaker 1: we're seeing from everyone.
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, so this from the woman who's in the thrall
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 2: of Epstein's Ghost. Yeah, she's buying her face cream because
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: Epstein's Ghost is whispering in her ear or some shit. Okay, no,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 2: all the dismissable, let's move on, let's just finish this time.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: She's got this chart right that she's saying a lot
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 1: of people think this is how we see it, where
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: there's most men are good and there's only a little,
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: a small percentage of crazy evil men. What I've learned
• 1:51:15
  Speaker 1: that a lot of guys visualize our social environment like
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: this is this is her chart. Okay, guess what, how
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: shit's going to change the reality. She's about to red
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 1: pill her women.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 7: Guys are good guys and then there's just a few
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 7: evil ones doing the bad things. Well, actually it's a
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 7: much more gradiated scale, and.
• 1:51:32
  Speaker 1: Are you Let's look at this, but it's actually closer
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: to this. So if you're on the end here it
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: says a heroic man, excuse me, heroic men who will intervene.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 1: So these are the only good men. So it's actually
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 1: an inversion because look at the rest of these well
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: meaning men who underestimate the issue. That's that's a bad man. Basically,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 1: men who think predation is an unfortunate fact of life.
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 1: Also a bad man. Men who think certain women deserve it.
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 1: But aren't active predators also bad. I mean, you're gonna
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: tell me that's not men who passively enjoy, consume, or
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 1: encourage predation. Textbook predators were all aware of monsters so
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: cruel we can't even fathom them. So this is the
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 1: what she sees is the truth, which means most men
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: are shit bags except for the ones that essentially are
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: willing to throw their lives away to intervene.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: That's women, which is most men, very honestly, So.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: She thinks it's just as much.
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: No, it's just this, lady, Do you really honestly think
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: conscription is the thing that could have happened if men
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 2: weren't willing to sacrifice for their society and make other
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 2: men sacrifice for their society. What a shit bag this
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 2: human being is? Like, she is a shit bag, Like
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: there is no excuse for this. And again this is abstracting.
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: So instead of seeing evil as a personal choice that
• 1:52:54
  Speaker 2: men and women make, and mostly men are bringing these
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: evil people to justice, it's men who are the policemen
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 2: who are doing this. And I'm not going to look
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: at how many women are policemen. Look at the death's
• 1:53:08
  Speaker 2: the death rate in that in that occupation to see
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 2: how much the sacrifice falls on men. Prosecutors, men, jailers, men,
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: Men will mostly intervene if they see a woman in distress.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 2: They still do that, even though in many cases they're
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 2: putting their own lives at risk for doing so. And
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: I actually tell men, don't don't do it, especially when
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: you're dealing with a couple that's engaging in violence in public,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: because you intervene, the woman grabs you while he stabs you.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: Just just don't bother, don't get don't put your life
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: in line for for miscreants. But regardless, men still do
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 2: that because it's the nature of the beast. And you, Bryrony,
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: wouldn't be existing in the world complaining to men about
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: men if men weren't listening. And you knew that. So
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: this is just meanness, This is just cruelty, This is
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 2: just abuse, This is just shit bag behavior. Because literally
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: she says, well, women are in men's thrall, so I'm
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: going to complain about it. Well, who are you complaining to, Byrony,
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: If women have no power even over their own minds,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 2: that's right, You're complaining to men and you're expecting them
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: to listen. Well, how is that compatible with believing that
• 1:54:38
  Speaker 2: they're all basically monsters. The answer is it's not. The
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: answer is this is mouth noises and memes intended to
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: be cruel and shame men into doing what she wants.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: This is emotional abuse right here, what she's showing. It's
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: its own counter art because men, if men were really
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  Speaker 2: all basically evil, they wouldn't respond to her emotional abuse.
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  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be such a useful strategy for women than
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  Speaker 2: I see. An entire movement bases it's entire political apparatus
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  Speaker 2: on it. Like, think about that, an entire movement of
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  Speaker 2: women bases its political apparatus on the fact that when
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  Speaker 2: they say, hey, men, you don't care about women? What
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  Speaker 2: a men do? They immediately feel like they have to
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  Speaker 2: demonstrate that they do by giving that movement power and clout.
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  Speaker 2: It is its own counter argument, and it's despicable. More
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  Speaker 2: fuck shit stack.
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  Speaker 1: And no.
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  Speaker 2: I yes, it's horrible that I'm I have to engage
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  Speaker 2: with this. It right, I have to engage with it.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 2: That's horrible. But then again, at least somewhere somebody is
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  Speaker 2: saying that this is wrong, This behavior is wrong, right,
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  Speaker 2: this is cruel, and not only is cruel. It's a
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  Speaker 2: lie because if she genuinely believed men were the problem,
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  Speaker 2: she wouldn't be appealing to them for the solution, and
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  Speaker 2: neither would her audience. The truth is that these women
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  Speaker 2: know that men are their solution. That's why their entire
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  Speaker 2: strategy for existing in the world is to complain to men.
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  Speaker 2: And why I say, Okay, you want to say men
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  Speaker 2: are so bad, show me the receipts. Show me how
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  Speaker 2: you're building us out of femtopia. Show you how, show
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  Speaker 2: me how we're escaping the extistential state prison that men's
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  Speaker 2: thrall has put us in. We're all enthralled Jeffrey Epstein's
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  Speaker 2: ghost Byrony. Tell me how that? Tell me? Because all
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  Speaker 2: I see is someone who insists that men are bad
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  Speaker 2: and then, in the next breath, demands they do something
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  Speaker 2: about it in order to prove they're not. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think bad men actually? Give a crap? That's right, Mia,
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  Speaker 2: that's right, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 7: The thing I can you on the most is challenging
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  Speaker 7: when you find yourself kind of in the more colorful
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  Speaker 7: end of the spectrum as opposed to the leader end
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  Speaker 7: of the spectrum. I'm not gonna say heroic here. I'm
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 7: gonna put this as leader behavior because all the rest
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 7: of it goes into follower behavior. I believe that people.
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  Speaker 1: So she's trying to that's the thing to do, is
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  Speaker 1: that she's trying to like weaponize like her own femininity,
• 1:57:58
  Speaker 1: her ability to manipulate men, to get men to be
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: leaders instead of followers by framing it this way and
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  Speaker 1: then also claiming that men have all the power.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: But she's literally like appealing.
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  Speaker 2: For people who have no power over men. You sure
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of power over men's identity and self worth.
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  Speaker 2: You certainly manipulated enough.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sorry, Yeah, that's that's the that's the that's her video.
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  Speaker 2: I am I'm going to I'm gonna. I'm gonna hug
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  Speaker 2: me you, okay, cause she came over because I was upset.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: She might also want to bite me, but you know
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 2: how it is one or the other. She's either trying
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 2: to make me feel better, she wants food, or she
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  Speaker 2: wants to bite me. It's it's always a possible chat. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm done. I don't know if I
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: could loathe this woman anymore. And I love how she's
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 2: fucking doing the little baby face.
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  Speaker 1: She's talking to men like like like their kindergarten students. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's very infantilizing. It's pedantic. It's not pedantic. I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: it's actually.
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  Speaker 2: She is looking like a child in order to play
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  Speaker 2: up her vulnerability. But for what what is that signal? What? What?
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  Speaker 2: What receiver is that signal trying to get to mm
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 2: hmm in men? Like, where where is that? Where is
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 2: that receiver going?
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 1: Like?
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: Where's that signal going? That vulnerability? Right? Okay, prey doesn't
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 2: signal pray does not signal vulnerability to predators. Disgusting? All right,
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  Speaker 2: Because this woman has a million no, no, she's like
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  Speaker 2: a quarter million.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred and seventy eight thousand subscribers.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred and seventy eight thousand thousand subs, two
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  Speaker 2: hundred thousand subs for this for essentially a woman who
• 2:01:33
  Speaker 2: was like, oh, sex traffic children, they're getting attention and
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  Speaker 2: not me, and she had she had to yoink that
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  Speaker 2: out of their hands, God forbid right that she not
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  Speaker 2: get attention for her victimhood, and then also shaming men
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  Speaker 2: for not caring about women without realizing that if women
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  Speaker 2: didn't care and men didn't care about women, they wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: be caring about shame being shamed for not caring about women.
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  Speaker 2: There's no logic here. There's just endless, endless complaining. Okay, Brian,
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  Speaker 2: do you want to do the things you have? Anything?
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  Speaker 2: Last last thing to say?
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  Speaker 1: I think I said everything I wanted to say. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: Thank Ard fors appreciate that. Come on gives the audience
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  Speaker 1: says sorry for the rich being. You mean the bitching.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I don't think. I don't know what that means,
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  Speaker 1: but thank you. Florida's Florida Tourists says Brian, I want
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  Speaker 1: you to fix a blind date with Pearl and I.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have access to Pearl, so but I may.
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  Speaker 1: I think I'm going to meet her finally at the
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  Speaker 1: this documentary she wants to do so that the one
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  Speaker 1: that we talked about with Terrence Pop contract.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah cool.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything yet. I'm gonna call him or
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  Speaker 1: message him tomorrow because I think he said they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: find out tomorrow, so I'll just say it. But he's
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