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Speaker 2: to get him in and out because he's got a
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Speaker 2: bus to catch. The Komiski Park. I'm gonna keep calling
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Speaker 2: it Komisky Park. Gary Gary Hill Junior, great friend of
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Speaker 3: Hello, sir, Hey, you can call it Kamiski all you want.
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Speaker 2: Thank you, fine, thank you whatever they call it now. Although, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't like the new park compared to the old one,
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Speaker 2: but the old one was a dump so they had
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Speaker 2: to fix it. But yeah, it's so the question of
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Speaker 2: the day. You know, I'm gonna ask you the six
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Speaker 2: man rotation specter of bright with Bryce Miller coming back,
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Speaker 2: how do you think this plays out? And could you
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Speaker 2: foresee Luis Castillo being a good soldier saying yeah, okay,
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Speaker 2: I'll go to the bullpen because Emerson Hancock has been
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Speaker 2: pitching so well, and or how do you see what
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Speaker 2: this really shaken out?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question at this point because you know,
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Speaker 3: I always think these situations always kind of resolved themselves
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Speaker 3: with injury or something along the way. And we're on
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Speaker 3: the precipice now though, because the Millers look great, and
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Speaker 3: clearly given his track record, he you know, you want
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Speaker 3: that in the rotation, but you can't take Hancock out
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Speaker 3: of the rotation. He's been He's been one of the
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Speaker 3: best pitchers in baseball right well this year, you know,
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Speaker 3: looking over his stuff so far this year, and I
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Speaker 3: think the most important thing about Hancock the results aren't fluky,
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Speaker 3: because what he's doing has led to the results in
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Speaker 3: that like his strikeout rate, it's better than Paul's schemes.
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Speaker 3: That's where his strikeout rate is. And one of the
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Speaker 3: things I look at I like to look at strikeout
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Speaker 3: rate minus walk rate. It's it's really simplistic, but if
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Speaker 3: you're a starting pitcher and you strike out a bunch
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Speaker 3: of guys and you don't walk a bunch of guys,
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Speaker 3: you're gonna be pretty good.
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Speaker 2: And he has the.
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Speaker 3: Fourth highest K minus walk rate in baseball, and the
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Speaker 3: guys surrounding him like he's just behind the grom, He's
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Speaker 3: just ahead of schemes.
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Speaker 2: Right.
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Speaker 3: What he's doing is leading to the results. This isn't like, Wow,
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Speaker 3: he's just getting hit hard and they're making plays. No,
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Speaker 3: this is this is legit. What now can he continue
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Speaker 3: at this rate? That's the question. But what he has
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Speaker 3: done so far is legit, and I feel like you
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Speaker 3: have to keep that in the rotation. So I think
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Speaker 3: six man is dev I've always thought six man was
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Speaker 3: an option at some point anyway, because I think if
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Speaker 3: you're the Mariners, you know, given where they are, this
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Speaker 3: isn't going to be part of the conversation. This is
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Speaker 3: just me looking at things and how things play out.
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Speaker 3: You know, innings if you get to playing a week,
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Speaker 3: two weeks, a month past the regular season, like where
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Speaker 3: where will the innings be for Kirby who's already among
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Speaker 3: the leaders and Gilbert who's already among the leaders.
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Speaker 2: That was never a.
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Speaker 3: Conversation last year in the Mariner's run because those guys
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Speaker 3: were hurt early and by the time they came back
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Speaker 3: they had complete runway with innings. So I didn't think
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Speaker 3: a six I thought six man was a possibility at
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Speaker 3: some point this season anyway, and maybe now is the
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Speaker 3: right time because I also think that Castile has earned
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Speaker 3: the right to try and figure it out. And I
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Speaker 3: thought his last start was certainly a step from the
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Speaker 3: right direction, and we've seen it this year that he
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Speaker 3: pitched great against the Yankees earlier this season. Right, So,
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Speaker 3: And there's also the other complicating part of this too,
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Speaker 3: is you're missing a couple of key guys in the bullpen,
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Speaker 3: and I guess you could ask yourself, Hey, could somebody
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Speaker 3: cover that spot in late innings for a couple of
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Speaker 3: weeks before you can get Brash and spireback. I think
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Speaker 3: that's also the complicating question that I don't have the
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Speaker 3: answer to that, but maybe one of those guys is
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Speaker 3: the answer for at least a couple of weeks.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. Gary Hill Junior joining us from Chicago
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Speaker 2: where he's on the Mariner's road trip to broadcast their
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Speaker 2: games this weekend and then starting in Houston with a
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Speaker 2: three game series against the trash Cans beginning on Monday. Gary,
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Speaker 2: you know baseball players have been being around them every day.
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Speaker 2: What creatures a habit and routine they are? If you
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Speaker 2: went to a six man rotation, how jumbling would that
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Speaker 2: be to the root the starting pitchers just psyche of
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Speaker 2: repetition and routine and long toss two days after a
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Speaker 2: start and bullpens, all the whole routine they go through
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Speaker 2: between starts being altered by having five days rest instead
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Speaker 2: of four.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think it would change all that much
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Speaker 3: because it's already kind of like that given off days
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Speaker 3: sprinkled in, so guys kind of go back and forth
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Speaker 3: between full rest and extra day of rest all the
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Speaker 3: time anyway, And the maritors have always tried, especially with
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Speaker 3: you look at Wou last year and what they tried
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Speaker 3: to do. They always tried to give him an extra
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Speaker 3: day anyway when they could, So I think it's something
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Speaker 3: they could adjust to pretty cleanly. In fact, I think
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Speaker 3: it's kind of funny to look at the numbers the
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Speaker 3: last couple of years, four guys on normal rest and
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Speaker 3: with an extra day rest. For the most part, the
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Speaker 3: numbers are better with the extra day. So I'm kind
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Speaker 3: of curious if they went to a six man just experimentally,
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Speaker 3: what that would look like in terms of numbers. Like
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Speaker 3: it is. One thing, there also is the argument, hey,
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Speaker 3: you're Wu was pitching one less time, right, because it's
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Speaker 3: there's an extra guy in between, and you want him
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Speaker 3: pitching as much as possible. So I certainly understand both
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Speaker 3: sides of it, which is why I think this is
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Speaker 3: a very complicated question. I don't think the answer is
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Speaker 3: really straightforward at this point.
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Speaker 2: And is it also because it's early May? Is this
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Speaker 2: do you think that maybe lends itself to doing it?
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Speaker 1: Then?
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Speaker 2: Say, if it was August or September when you were
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Speaker 2: narrowing your list of pitchers trying to get to a pennant.
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Speaker 3: Sure, and then and I also think context is super
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Speaker 3: important when you talk about that too. If it's August
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Speaker 3: when you're eight games up in the division, oh, six
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Speaker 3: man would be great if you're trying to chase somebody
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Speaker 3: down and your two games back, like you're trying to
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Speaker 3: throw your guys out as much as possible to climb
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Speaker 3: into that position. So I think that is certainly a
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Speaker 3: factor too. And I think context is really important right
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Speaker 3: now because despite how the Mariners have gone so far,
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Speaker 3: a couple of games under five hundred, the division has
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Speaker 3: certainly not gone anywhere. In fact, you can say that
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Speaker 3: about the American League in general. So all the goals
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Speaker 3: the Mariners had at the beginning of the season. It's
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Speaker 3: all right there. I mean, the division is right there
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Speaker 3: for the Mariners. We could talk after this road trip
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Speaker 3: and the Mariners could be a couple of games up
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Speaker 3: on the A's in the division. That's they're a week
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Speaker 3: away from, like, Okay, things are settled, things are feeling better,
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Speaker 3: back of the top, you know that sort of thing.
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Speaker 3: And this feels like an opportunity road trip for the
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Speaker 3: Mariners in that regard because Chicago, although they are better
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Speaker 3: than they've been the last couple of years, that might
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Speaker 3: not be saying a ton because they've been pretty bad
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Speaker 3: the last couple of years, so they won't be a pushover.
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Speaker 3: But that four gamer in Houston is a real opportunity
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Speaker 3: as well because you kind of listen to people talking
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Speaker 3: around the Astros right now, they're talking about this homestand
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Speaker 3: with the Mariners and Rangers as a season defining home
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Speaker 3: stand already because that's how poorly things have gone in Houston.
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Speaker 3: So it feels like an opportunity for the Mariners to
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Speaker 3: really put a nice string together coming off of the
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Speaker 3: series win against Atlanta, but also land a big blow
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Speaker 3: against the division fall and.
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Speaker 2: Then they come home, they played the Padres, who are rolling.
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Speaker 2: The have been rolling most of the season anyway. Then
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Speaker 2: they get the White Sox again at home, and then
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Speaker 2: they go to Kansas City and to Sacramento to play
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Speaker 2: the A's. So you're right, there's an opportunity here for sure.
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Speaker 2: Gary Hill Junior joining us from Chicago about what you
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Speaker 2: just said. Do you think the Mariners feel that the
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Speaker 2: players in the clubhouse believe the same thing, that they're
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Speaker 2: a five game winning streak and from first place, and
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Speaker 2: that this division is so ripe to be had. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I think they've been confident the whole time. I think
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Speaker 3: they feel like they're a better team than how they
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Speaker 3: played so far this season. I think I think everyone's
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Speaker 3: kind of frustrated about how things have gone so far.
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Speaker 3: And I think the frustrating thing for me looking at
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Speaker 3: it is they had a great road trip last time
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Speaker 3: coming home to Kansas City and it felt like, Okay,
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Speaker 3: here they go, and then they lost a couple of
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Speaker 3: winnable games.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 3: You know, WU has a bad start against Kansas City
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Speaker 3: in game one, they might make a bunch of mistakes
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Speaker 3: in game two. It feels like it's funny because you
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Speaker 3: can look back that series you take those two games,
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Speaker 3: you win the series against Atlanta, it feels like an
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Speaker 3: extended stretch of good baseball. But that's not what happened
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Speaker 3: in the Kansas City series, so they kind of started
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Speaker 3: over against Atlanta. But yeah, I still think they believe
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Speaker 3: they're a very good team, and I think they have
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Speaker 3: a lot of confidence. They just don't feel like they've
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Speaker 3: played their great their best baseball yet. I don't think
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Speaker 3: they haven't played their best baseball yet. So I think
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Speaker 3: they're a very confident group and they should be. They
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Speaker 3: should be a confident group because they're a good team.
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Speaker 2: Gary a couple of roster house cleaning things. Is it
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Speaker 2: pretty much a FATA companye that Bryce Miller comes back
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Speaker 2: and starts that on Monday on his normal turn in Houston.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I haven't That's a good question.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: I don't know how that will work. I'm guessing that
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Speaker 3: will probably be it, but I don't know. I don't
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Speaker 3: want to say, because I'm not sure. I haven't had
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Speaker 3: any conversations with anyone about how that will play out.
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Speaker 2: And and Brendan Donovan, I believe is in Chicago with
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Speaker 2: the team. Is that right or if you know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I've not laid eyes on him yet. I'm going
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Speaker 3: to the ballpark right after this, but I think that
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Speaker 3: is the thing we can all assume, which that's gonna
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Speaker 3: be great for the meritis. He's been badly missed, I think,
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Speaker 3: at the top of the lineup for the Mariners, and
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Speaker 3: I feel like we have not seen the offense yet intact,
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Speaker 3: because he was really hitting early in the season, getting
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Speaker 3: on base, but the middle of the order struggled so much.
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Speaker 3: And then you know, we've seen Naylor get it going
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Speaker 3: and Julio's been better, but we haven't seen it intact
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Speaker 3: and all together. And jpmis the beginning of the season,
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Speaker 3: so I feel like this is going to be the
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Speaker 3: first time we would get to see that. I just
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Speaker 3: think he's going to make a huge difference at the top,
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Speaker 3: setting the table and then the domino effect moving JP
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Speaker 3: to the bottom, I think is going to really help
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Speaker 3: that as well. It makes the lineup so much longer
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Speaker 3: than it's been. So I'm looking forward to him being
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Speaker 3: back at the top because I think he's a real
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Speaker 3: difference maker.
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Speaker 2: I agree with you there, Gary cayl Rally, we knew
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Speaker 2: the side injury the three days three days back from
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Speaker 2: missing that, I should say two games back from that. Oh,
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Speaker 2: he's zero for eight with five strikeouts in those two games.
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Speaker 2: He's yet to come back to catcher. Are you expecting
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Speaker 2: to look like he's going to catch at any time
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Speaker 2: of this road trip? And would he possibly move down
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Speaker 2: or just move the lineup around to put him in
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Speaker 2: a different spot to try to get him going. What
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Speaker 2: do you think is going to happen there? Just write
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Speaker 2: it out the way it is.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he looked like a guy that had missed a
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Speaker 3: few days the last two games, I thought. And for
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Speaker 3: a guy that doesn't miss a few days all right, right,
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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he's the guy that essentially plays
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Speaker 3: every single game, and so he's not accustomed to missing
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Speaker 3: games in a row. And so that's kind of what
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Speaker 3: it felt like to me, Like he he missed the
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Speaker 3: balls over the plate that I don't think you would
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Speaker 3: normally miss. I think the good thing, like the thing
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Speaker 3: you were really hoping you wouldn't see is like take
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Speaker 3: a swing and then grab the side something like that.
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Speaker 3: Never saw that, which is great. I'm really curious to
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Speaker 3: your question about what the roster move is going to
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Speaker 3: be today when assuming Donovan's added, because I think that's
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Speaker 3: gonna that's going to answer your question, because if they
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Speaker 3: move Parreta off the roster, for example, it means, yeah,
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Speaker 3: Kal's gonna start catching and they'll have two catchers back
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Speaker 3: on the roster. If they move somebody else off the
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Speaker 3: roster for Donovan and they keep three catchers, I think
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Speaker 3: that answers your question the other way, that that would
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Speaker 3: tell me that he's gonna dh quite a bit moving forward,
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Speaker 3: which I think is an option. I think that the
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Speaker 3: key is as much as he brings you behind the
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Speaker 3: plate and working with the pitching staff, which he brings
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Speaker 3: you a ton. Clearly, the bat is really important to
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Speaker 3: the Mariners, and getting Cal back to being cal is
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Speaker 3: really important to the Mariners. So if that takes nursing
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Speaker 3: this long and having three catches on the roster, I
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Speaker 3: think that is well worth it. I think that it
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Speaker 3: makes it difficult, I think because it leaves you you know,
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Speaker 3: they played the last couple of games really without a
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Speaker 3: backup infielder, right. You know, I guess Connor Joe has
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Speaker 3: got an emergency guy, or maybe Mitch Garver was the
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Speaker 3: emergency guy at third base. You know, they played the
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Speaker 3: last couple of games like that they would have to.
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Speaker 3: With Donovan coming back, they'll have a little more flexibility
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Speaker 3: in that way. But I think it's worth that going
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Speaker 3: through that if that's what it takes to make sure
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Speaker 3: Cal is healthy in the long term. So I'm as
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Speaker 3: anxious as everyone to see what the move is today
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Speaker 3: because I think that's going to tell us where Cal
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Speaker 3: is at moving forward.
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Speaker 2: Great point talking about Brendon Donovan coming back to the Mariners.
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Speaker 2: Likely we we're expecting the roster move to come today
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Speaker 2: before the four forty first pitch that Gary Hill Junior
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Speaker 2: will be calling on the Mariners radio network. Gary, I
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Speaker 2: know you got to catch a bus to the park.
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Speaker 2: I don't want you to ride the L or take
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Speaker 2: an uber, so I'll let you go. I've done the
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Speaker 2: y L to the South side of Chicago. It's not
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Speaker 2: an easy fun trip.
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Speaker 1: But thanks.
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Speaker 2: Thanks a.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I appreciate you looking out for Yeah, at least.
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Speaker 1: I could do.
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Speaker 2: I have a great week. I have a great trip,
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Speaker 2: thanks Gary, Gary Hill Junior, the Mariners broadcaster in Chicago. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: the L through the from downtown Chicago to Komiski Park
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Speaker 2: is a very interesting adventure. It's the subway system in Chicago.
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Speaker 2: But he's there for three days and then the Mariners
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Speaker 2: go Monday, and garys saying that the expectation around the
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Speaker 2: team Brendon Donovan joining the team in Chicago with the
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Speaker 2: expectation that he will be activated to play today. And
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Speaker 2: his good point is if they send down the third catcher, Breda,
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Speaker 2: then that means, crowd, we're always probably catching or at
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Speaker 2: least getting back to catching after his injury in the side,
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Speaker 2: they keep Breda, don't send him to the COMA, that's
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Speaker 2: an indication that Raleigh is still going to stay in
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Speaker 2: DH and perhaps he's not fully fully fully healthy, and
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Speaker 2: that today's roster move may signal that drive us when
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Speaker 2: we talk every week we talked to Gary, he still
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Speaker 2: has this he represents with the players in the clubhouse
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Speaker 2: that they're confident that they and the division is absolutely
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Speaker 2: there to take and he hasn't waivered in that at all.
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Speaker 2: And it's only May. But it's got to be decent
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Speaker 2: for I know he's paid by the Mariners, but he's
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Speaker 2: been consistent in that regard and that's got to be
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Speaker 2: good for Mariner fans there.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, I mean it's good that the morale there
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Speaker 4: is is strong and that you know, they feel that
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Speaker 4: the division is theirs is I mean they.
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Speaker 5: Should feel that it's it's up for graps.
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Speaker 4: So they just need to, you know, get some bats
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Speaker 4: on balls, get the offense going.
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Speaker 5: I think they'll be they'll be good.
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Speaker 2: You think, I say, Chris and I have this all
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Speaker 2: the time, what color flag it is, and nowhere does
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Speaker 2: it get near red unless it's post All Star Break
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Speaker 2: or even end of July. If it's still like this,
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Speaker 2: I think, oh yeah.
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Speaker 4: I mean it's still so early in the season. We
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Speaker 4: were talking about this, like after a couple of weeks,
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Speaker 4: like should we be worried? Are the Mariners doomed? And
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Speaker 4: like we're still early early season. It's you know, we
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Speaker 4: have a lot of a lot of games to play.
17:18
Speaker 2: I know it's not time in May eighth to look
17:21
Speaker 2: at the standings, but the standings gave great context in
17:24
Speaker 2: this case to what we're talking about. Nineteen and eighteen
17:27
Speaker 2: leads the division. The A's are nineteen and eighteen, the
17:31
Speaker 2: Mariners are eighteen and twenty. That's only a game and
17:33
Speaker 2: a half. Yeah, I mean that's a weekend that and
17:37
Speaker 2: as Gary Hill Junior just told us this weekend against
17:39
Speaker 2: Chicago could be that weekend to start making a movie.
17:41
Speaker 2: And then you got the trash Cans and their pitching
17:44
Speaker 2: staff is just yeah, pretty awful. Yeah. And so the
17:48
Speaker 2: trash Cans are back to three, back of the Mariners,
17:51
Speaker 2: back tied for the last place with the Angels at
17:53
Speaker 2: fifteen and twenty three. There is we mentioned this the
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Speaker 2: other day. There is only two teams. There are only
18:00
Speaker 2: two teams I should say that are anywhere nearly a
18:04
Speaker 2: way above five hundred in the American League. They're both
18:06
Speaker 2: in the East. The Yankees and the Rays are plus
18:08
Speaker 2: fourteen and plus thirteen above five hundred. Everybody else is
18:12
Speaker 2: one game over five hundred or worse. The best record
18:16
Speaker 2: in the American League Central Cleveland one game over five hundred.
18:19
Speaker 2: In the West, the best is that the A's are
18:22
Speaker 2: one game over five. That's it. So nobody's going anywhere.
18:25
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's gotta get No reason to panic.
18:27
Speaker 2: No reason to panic. Just keep going for bobbleheads and
18:29
Speaker 2: fireworks and enjoy the beautiful weather. We'll be all right.
18:32
Speaker 2: But July or August, that's it. Up next your chance
18:36
Speaker 2: to be a part of the show as it is
18:37
Speaker 2: every Day at eleven thirty, the Tacoma Dodge text line
18:39
Speaker 2: four nine four to five on we have some great
18:41
Speaker 2: Mother's Day memories and remembrances. If you have any like
18:44
Speaker 2: to share read them on the air. I hope you
18:47
Speaker 2: can be with your mother. Or if you're a mother
18:49
Speaker 2: out there, hat's off to you for doing what you do.
18:52
Speaker 2: We're you back your text next, and then at eleven
18:54
Speaker 2: forty five, the Mayor and Maple Valley Will joined me
18:57
Speaker 2: before his show from twelve until three on ninety three
18:59
Speaker 2: point three kJ r FM.
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Speaker 1: Now back to Greg Bell and Christopher Kidd on your
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Speaker 1: Home for the Huskies Cracket and the twelfth Man Sports
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Speaker 1: Radio ninety three point three kjr FM.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Greg Bell Show with Christopher Kidd.
19:22
Speaker 2: But Christopher kids not here, so Travis Muger is on
19:25
Speaker 2: ninety three point three kJ r FM. Yes, this is
19:28
Speaker 2: the new show. It's still three weeks in. I guess
19:32
Speaker 2: it is, but it's permanent, at least as permanent as
19:34
Speaker 2: his business can be.
19:35
Speaker 5: How are you feeling. How's it going for you?
19:37
Speaker 2: I appreciate that. It's great. Great to be I didn't
19:39
Speaker 2: go anywhere. I was always on the air with in
19:41
Speaker 2: the mornings with Chuck. But it's great your permanent fixture.
19:44
Speaker 2: It's great to be back. It's great all the support,
19:47
Speaker 2: the text line and people calling in and writing and thanks.
19:51
Speaker 2: It's nice to be welcome back. And it's good to
19:53
Speaker 2: be with Travis again. Like they said, it's like super
19:55
Speaker 2: Bowl week again. We did those shows. But yep, this
19:58
Speaker 2: is a new show ten to noon, and I am
20:01
Speaker 2: very appreciative of the support and thanks.
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Speaker 5: Fun Yeah, we love we love having you.
20:06
Speaker 6: Greg.
20:06
Speaker 2: Appreciate that, man. Thanks good to be back. Do you
20:10
Speaker 2: know what time it is? The music four nine, four
20:12
Speaker 2: or five one? The Tacoma Dodge text on your chance
20:14
Speaker 2: to be a part of the show. You have anything
20:16
Speaker 2: Travis that jumps out to you. I got a couple
20:19
Speaker 2: of things.
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Speaker 5: Good question.
20:22
Speaker 2: Well, we'll start with it was it's pretty funny from
20:26
Speaker 2: Nick in the two oh six. Why would you play
20:29
Speaker 2: that replay of with Tumbo and the Nuggets beating the Sonic?
20:34
Speaker 5: Fair question?
20:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, I hear you, worst, he said. Nick says worst
20:38
Speaker 2: Seattle sports moment until Super Bowl interception. Malcolm Butler. Yeah,
20:43
Speaker 2: I only played it for context to those who aren't
20:45
Speaker 2: in Seattle to understand. First of all, Yeah, we did
20:48
Speaker 2: have an NBA team, and yeah, it was pretty damn good.
20:50
Speaker 2: And that year they were the number one seed, and
20:53
Speaker 2: how a couple seasons of just bitter disappointment spawned. The
20:57
Speaker 2: greatest of that post was nineteen seventy nine World Championship Sonics.
21:02
Speaker 2: I should say I was gonna say the greatest season
21:03
Speaker 2: Sonics history when they were sixty four wins and went
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Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals against Jordan's Bulls. Another tech line
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Speaker 2: person brought up and I find it somewhere they wis
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Speaker 2: about the Jordan It made it. Oh yeah, the two
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Speaker 2: oh six and we missed that opportunity while Jordan was
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Speaker 2: playing baseball. That's a great point. Nineteen ninety four, when
21:25
Speaker 2: the Sonics were the number one seed, Michael Jordan was
21:27
Speaker 2: in Birmingham, Alabama playing for the Barons at Double A baseball.
21:32
Speaker 2: He had quit the NBA and that was the Sonics
21:35
Speaker 2: window right there. Then when they finally did not get
21:38
Speaker 2: beat in their first round of the playoffs and make
21:40
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals two years later, Jordan was back. Yeah,
21:44
Speaker 2: the baseball was over the time. Yeah, so that is
21:47
Speaker 2: a great point. We at the top of the show
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Speaker 2: your favorite Mother's Day Memories and we have a couple
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Speaker 2: three six to oh more than a couple, actually three six,
21:55
Speaker 2: so says my birthday is Sunday. Was a commercial fisherman
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Speaker 2: thirty seven years in the Bearing Sea commercial fisheries. The
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Speaker 2: best Mother's Day ever was when I made it home
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Speaker 2: from sea to celebrate with my mom. She's been gone
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Speaker 2: since twenty thirteen, but I always think of our Mother's
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Speaker 2: Day adventures. That's really cool. Thanks for sharing that.
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Speaker 5: Very cool.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great. And if you have memories like that's those,
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Speaker 2: it's always so worth it that if you make an
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Speaker 2: effort or I fly back to Detroit and see my mom.
22:22
Speaker 2: Every time I do it, I'm like, wow, I need
22:24
Speaker 2: to do this more often. Even now it's more for
22:27
Speaker 2: me than for her. But two six, two six, I
22:30
Speaker 2: should say. Lost my mom last month after a short
22:33
Speaker 2: out of the blue cancer diagnosis. So this one's gonna
22:36
Speaker 2: be tough. Thanks for the memories. The best was Emerald Downs.
22:39
Speaker 2: You haven't lived until you've enjoyed a red beer under
22:42
Speaker 2: the sun watching the ponies with two dollars on every race.
22:46
Speaker 2: That's great. And our condolence is losing a parent. Is
22:50
Speaker 2: that's hard, really tough? Yeah, it's not like you can
22:53
Speaker 2: practice that stuff. Happy Mother's Day again to all of
22:58
Speaker 2: you out there. If your mother or you have mother
23:02
Speaker 2: and you fortunately have to be near your mother and
23:03
Speaker 2: your mother's still living and you can be with her,
23:06
Speaker 2: enjoy it. It's a great time. And yeah, that's really cool.
23:10
Speaker 4: Here's one from the two five to three going back
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Speaker 4: to the Aosts. The AOST is a garbage division. Being
23:16
Speaker 4: eighteen and twenty games overall and eight name in the
23:18
Speaker 4: division just shows how bad this team is. They have
23:21
Speaker 4: the talent, but they are bad in terms of baseball
23:23
Speaker 4: I Q. They make plays that you wouldn't see from
23:25
Speaker 4: high school teams.
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Speaker 2: There's a little harsh, there is some truth to that,
23:29
Speaker 2: but yeah, there is truth to that. Running on a
23:34
Speaker 2: two to two pitch with the basis loaded thicket it's
23:36
Speaker 2: three two, like Randy rose Arena did on the last Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you wouldn't see a high school team do that.
23:41
Speaker 4: They need to also get better with their challenges, I think,
23:43
Speaker 4: or use them. I feel like they're being very hesitant
23:47
Speaker 4: with the abs challenges.
23:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, or you could be like the Braves catcher the
23:51
Speaker 2: other day and use them both in the first top
23:53
Speaker 2: of the first na. Yeah, you see that then the
23:55
Speaker 2: first ten pitches they were out of them got them wrong. Yeah,
23:59
Speaker 2: this is really nice into two, five, three. Well, Greg,
24:03
Speaker 2: another week and your show still sucks. He lol, but
24:07
Speaker 2: it's gotten a little better. L A m O. Happy
24:11
Speaker 2: Mother's Day to your family. Would have a great weekend people.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm hoping that was maybe a little sarcastic,
24:21
Speaker 4: you know, a little, a little rially.
24:23
Speaker 2: There's there's an axiom in life if you can think,
24:26
Speaker 2: you don't have to say everything you think.
24:28
Speaker 4: But I do that with my son all the time
24:31
Speaker 4: because he'll just say something to someone that is not
24:34
Speaker 4: necessarily nice.
24:35
Speaker 5: And he's eight, right, thank you.
24:40
Speaker 4: I'll be like, you know what, Milo, you don't have
24:42
Speaker 4: to say everything you think, and if it's not nice,
24:46
Speaker 4: maybe keep it to yourself.
24:49
Speaker 5: He doesn't have his frontal cortex, y not fully developed.
24:52
Speaker 2: You that's okay, eight. I don't think this guy's gall's
24:56
Speaker 2: eight years old. Texted me that, but okay, you know
24:59
Speaker 2: it's off to you. Have a great We could too.
25:01
Speaker 2: I hate your guts. You're absolutely horrible. Have a great weekend.
25:05
Speaker 5: I like you're taking the high road.
25:06
Speaker 2: Greg. You know whatever, that's why we love you. Appreciate it.
25:12
Speaker 2: Two five three, Greg, not only was Jordan gone. We
25:14
Speaker 2: owned the Rockets during those years, and they won the
25:16
Speaker 2: championships twice, I believe. Yeah, during the regular season, that's true.
25:20
Speaker 2: Three six, Oh, McMillan was hurt against the Bulls. I
25:23
Speaker 2: believe he didn't play the first two games. Healthy McMillan.
25:25
Speaker 2: That series is different. But yes, the year they were
25:27
Speaker 2: upset by the Nuggets was the year they should have
25:29
Speaker 2: won it. Yeah, they should have won it all. Two six, Hey,
25:34
Speaker 2: Travis knows to play the porn music background to the
25:36
Speaker 2: text for Chris and I have already joke that this
25:39
Speaker 2: sounds like Boogie Knights on the radio. It does a
25:43
Speaker 2: listener and our first go around said, that's is that
25:46
Speaker 2: porn music.
25:48
Speaker 5: I was to play the porn music at the eleven
25:51
Speaker 5: thirty block.
25:53
Speaker 2: I don't know where Chris found this music. But two
25:55
Speaker 2: five three Mariners the Aos is a garbage division. Being
25:59
Speaker 2: eighteen twenty overall eight and eight in the division just
26:02
Speaker 2: shows how bad this team is. They have the talent,
26:06
Speaker 2: but they are bad in terms of baseball. I think
26:08
Speaker 2: you already read I did read that.
26:09
Speaker 5: Yeah, sorry, I mean it's worth repeating.
26:11
Speaker 2: It's very repeated. Oh Man, here's.
26:17
Speaker 4: One steven and the four two five. I think the
26:20
Speaker 4: six man rotation makes the most sense to save the
26:22
Speaker 4: arms come playoff.
26:23
Speaker 5: Time, which is refreshed.
26:27
Speaker 2: Uh.
26:28
Speaker 4: They did do a much bigger note I think is
26:30
Speaker 4: we can please move Julio to the two hole in
26:32
Speaker 4: Naylor to the three hole.
26:33
Speaker 5: Move Cal of the four hole with Donovan leading off.
26:35
Speaker 2: Ah. I was hinting at that with Gary Hill Junior
26:38
Speaker 2: last segment about what they move probably down perhaps from two.
26:43
Speaker 2: Two's great if you're hitting home runs getting on base
26:45
Speaker 2: all the time, but when you're not, it's kind.
26:49
Speaker 5: Of hurting hitting the team.
26:50
Speaker 2: It is hurting the team you get out stra at
26:52
Speaker 2: bats like that. Let's see uh two O six. I
26:58
Speaker 2: will admit it that Bulls team was the team ever constructed,
27:01
Speaker 2: But we beat them three times that year. We're talking
27:03
Speaker 2: ninety five ninety six season. We weren't two fall far
27:06
Speaker 2: behind them. Maybe that Sonics team was the second best ever.
27:10
Speaker 2: I'd put them up against any team other than that
27:12
Speaker 2: Bulls team that beat us for the championship. I agree
27:16
Speaker 2: the man they were. Those were fun, silky smooth, Sam
27:20
Speaker 2: Perkins shooting threes and shrimp and camp and Gary Payton
27:25
Speaker 2: in the old Seattle Center Coliseum. When I first got
27:28
Speaker 2: stationed at Fort Lewis as a second lieutenant at a
27:30
Speaker 2: West Point, I went up to the I'll never forget
27:34
Speaker 2: it was in January's reigning. I went up about a
27:36
Speaker 2: scalp ticker for like fifteen bucks to see the Knicks
27:39
Speaker 2: and the Sonics at the old Seattle Center Coliseum in
27:42
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety three, ninety three, early ninety four, probably January
27:46
Speaker 2: ninety four, and Sean Kemp took off from the right
27:51
Speaker 2: wing and dunked over damn near half the maybe the
27:57
Speaker 2: entire Knicks lineup on the floor, and I thought the
28:00
Speaker 2: roof was going to come down. It was so loud
28:02
Speaker 2: in there. The old Coliseum building was just so loud.
28:06
Speaker 2: And I mean I would I had never been to
28:09
Speaker 2: a Sonics game before the old c First Bank advertisements
28:12
Speaker 2: on the on the side boards of the the side
28:15
Speaker 2: of the court and center court, and I just I
28:18
Speaker 2: that moment is etched in my mind as I could
28:21
Speaker 2: not be Wow, this isn't this is an incredible sporting experience.
28:24
Speaker 2: This building this loud for every a regular season game.
28:27
Speaker 2: It's like I said, January against the Knicks, it was
28:31
Speaker 2: so loud in there, and then Key Arena and you
28:33
Speaker 2: can rip the arena and everyone did. And the concourses
28:36
Speaker 2: was narrow and parking, and but man, it was loud.
28:40
Speaker 2: Off that season that they went to the NBA Finals
28:43
Speaker 2: was just off the hook. And I can remember Marv
28:45
Speaker 2: Albert and Bob Costas, an NBC's crew that flew out
28:50
Speaker 2: here for those finals games, could not get over They
28:53
Speaker 2: kept talking about how loud that building was. Yeah, in
28:55
Speaker 2: ninety five ninety six season for the Sonics when they
28:59
Speaker 2: were go all the way the NBA.
29:00
Speaker 5: Finals, Seattle fans have been known to get loud for all.
29:04
Speaker 2: The national narrative about this is not a basketball town
29:07
Speaker 2: and the Sonics were that's absolute trash. This is absolutely
29:12
Speaker 2: a basketball area. They supported the Sonics. This team won
29:15
Speaker 2: an NBA championship in nineteen seventy nine, only when Howard
29:19
Speaker 2: Schultz sold them literally to carpetbaggers, and they this carpetbagged
29:25
Speaker 2: the team and made it unwatchable. And then all all
29:27
Speaker 2: of a sudden, Ki Arena, No one wants to go there. Well,
29:29
Speaker 2: the team sucked and they had new ownership and then
29:32
Speaker 2: they left, and then everyone in the narrative is that
29:34
Speaker 2: Seattle didn't support the Sonics. That's absolutely false and anyway,
29:38
Speaker 2: it's ridiculous and ky Arena. It didn't have the sweets
29:41
Speaker 2: and all that, but it was a fine You could
29:45
Speaker 2: you were close to the court. The seats were pretty
29:46
Speaker 2: close to the court. You were in there.
29:48
Speaker 4: I went to the last season the Sonics were here.
29:51
Speaker 4: I went to some games.
29:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I thought it was an outstanding place to
29:54
Speaker 2: watch a game.
29:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, I saw it was very intimate. It did feel
29:57
Speaker 5: very close to the court.
29:58
Speaker 2: Yeah, really loud, and yeah, the revisionist history. Anyone who's
30:03
Speaker 2: here in those times know what I'm talking about.
30:05
Speaker 4: But yeah, I just hope that when they come back,
30:10
Speaker 4: that the NBA hasn't lost too many of the local
30:13
Speaker 4: fans because of what happened with the Sonics, you know,
30:16
Speaker 4: twenty years ago.
30:17
Speaker 2: No, I get it. There is an anti NBA sentiment
30:21
Speaker 2: for sure, well earned with what the league did to
30:25
Speaker 2: us in two thousand and eight. At the beginning of
30:29
Speaker 2: the week, I think the best thing we did on
30:30
Speaker 2: this show all week was talking about coaching at the
30:33
Speaker 2: youth sports and high school level and the epidemic really
30:38
Speaker 2: of overbearing, entitled parents who are driving coaches out. Now.
30:42
Speaker 2: I also wanted to clarify, and I think I've tried
30:44
Speaker 2: to during that show. Not all coaches are like top notch,
30:50
Speaker 2: first rate and shorter criticism, and a lot of there
30:54
Speaker 2: are problems with coach, especially when they aren't affiliated with
30:57
Speaker 2: I come from a state where you had to be
30:59
Speaker 2: a teacher at the school to coach at the school.
31:01
Speaker 2: But now there's so few people that want to coach
31:04
Speaker 2: that most places have relaxed that. And I know out
31:06
Speaker 2: here in Washington, in California where I lived before here
31:09
Speaker 2: the Bay Area, that's not a rule, and people just
31:11
Speaker 2: off the street off and coaching that weren't qualified to.
31:14
Speaker 2: But anyway, one of the best things we did this
31:16
Speaker 2: week was talk about this, and the four two five
31:18
Speaker 2: is revisiting this here on the text line today. The
31:20
Speaker 2: problem with high school athletics is principals and superintendents ninety
31:24
Speaker 2: percent do not back their coaches. The young parents observe
31:28
Speaker 2: parents whose athletes are ahead of them getting their way
31:32
Speaker 2: with administrators. It's a vicious cycle for coaches. I agree,
31:36
Speaker 2: and I think a lot of that goes back to
31:38
Speaker 2: what I just mentioned that coaches for high school and
31:41
Speaker 2: junior high athletics are not teachers at the school, so
31:44
Speaker 2: the administrators don't have a relationship with them principals, and
31:49
Speaker 2: because they have to field or want to field teams,
31:52
Speaker 2: they end up settling for someone they don't have a
31:54
Speaker 2: relationship with, just because those are the only coaches they
31:57
Speaker 2: can find. It is official cycle because parents and administrators
32:02
Speaker 2: often treat coaches poorly, so the coaches don't want to
32:05
Speaker 2: do it, and then coaches don't want to do it
32:08
Speaker 2: because they don't have a relationship with the administrators the principals.
32:12
Speaker 2: When you're a teacher at in Ohio, you had to
32:15
Speaker 2: be a teacher, and that's all we knew. We'd seen
32:17
Speaker 2: them in lunch, we'd see them in class, we'd see
32:20
Speaker 2: them in the hallway, and the administrators, the principals, they
32:24
Speaker 2: had a relationship because they were school employees. They've been vetted.
32:28
Speaker 5: Who knows what.
32:28
Speaker 2: You get now from some coaches because they're so desperate
32:31
Speaker 2: to just hire someone in some areas, they can't find
32:35
Speaker 2: people to coach, and that also degrades the whole experience.
32:40
Speaker 2: But again that is also separate from the fact of
32:43
Speaker 2: parents who are driving out coaches who absolutely should be
32:45
Speaker 2: there and then get railroaded out because parents don't like
32:49
Speaker 2: that their kid didn't play, or that you lose five
32:52
Speaker 2: games in a row when you're fired or whatever.
32:55
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kids playing.
32:58
Speaker 4: Yeah, the parents that get all all you know, fired
33:01
Speaker 4: up from their twelve year old playing baseball.
33:04
Speaker 5: It boggles my mind.
33:06
Speaker 2: Well that too, there's that too. Uh two o six dude,
33:10
Speaker 2: Dobe is amazing. You have to go to the Dobaate Cafe.
33:12
Speaker 2: I spent about ten summers doing a music festival there.
33:15
Speaker 2: I've been to the Doughbay Cafe and eating on the
33:18
Speaker 2: deck overlooking the water there, and it's, Oh, it's fantastic. Man,
33:21
Speaker 2: an evening meal or a brunch even Oh, yes we
33:24
Speaker 2: will do brunch. We'll probably do dinner at the Dobate
33:26
Speaker 2: Cafe when we're at the beach side of yurt we're
33:29
Speaker 2: headed to. We got a yurt just in case it
33:31
Speaker 2: was going to rain, but now.
33:32
Speaker 5: We don't really need the yurt, No, but good to
33:34
Speaker 5: have it.
33:35
Speaker 2: Yeah, anyone done yurt camping before. It's it's unique. It's
33:39
Speaker 2: a very Northwest thing. Yeah, I like it, but it's different.
33:44
Speaker 2: And forness's right outside the door. He's going to join
33:46
Speaker 2: me next before his show starts on ninety three point
33:48
Speaker 2: three kJ RFM.
33:56
Speaker 1: Welcome back.
34:00
Speaker 2: Today because he's in Louisiana for his sisters graduation from college.
34:05
Speaker 2: Travis Moger has been in with me and we've been
34:06
Speaker 2: having fun talking about the Seahawks. Seth Wickersham of ESPN
34:11
Speaker 2: reporting that there's a quote soft interest in their sale
34:15
Speaker 2: and spoke about how that may not be a bad thing.
34:17
Speaker 6: There's not a soft interest in a sale? What does
34:19
Speaker 6: that mean that? Oh, like there's not a lot of
34:22
Speaker 6: people lining up.
34:23
Speaker 2: That there aren't a lot of ten billion dollars.
34:25
Speaker 6: So just the checks the two groups we heard yesterday
34:27
Speaker 6: maybe are just fishing right now.
34:29
Speaker 2: That's sort of the ESPN reportings and Furness the mayor
34:33
Speaker 2: Maple Valley who show comes up next.
34:35
Speaker 6: That's interesting.
34:36
Speaker 2: Yes, there's a soft market, but as I pointed out,
34:40
Speaker 2: there's no timeline, there's no rush for no Jody Allen
34:44
Speaker 2: in the estate to find a buyer.
34:46
Speaker 6: No, no, not at all. Yeah, that is interesting though,
34:49
Speaker 6: that the defending Super Bowl champions in a in a
34:55
Speaker 6: good market, in a league that every team not only
34:59
Speaker 6: is every team make money, every team appreciates every year.
35:02
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the best investment probably of any sports
35:04
Speaker 6: property you can get as an NFL team, right, yep,
35:07
Speaker 6: they print money, especially when you already have the stadium.
35:10
Speaker 6: And really they've done renovations enough on the stadium. Really,
35:13
Speaker 6: there's not much more you can do to that stadium, right,
35:15
Speaker 6: like the stuff they did in the South End zone
35:17
Speaker 6: and all like they've there's nothing you're gonna You're not
35:20
Speaker 6: gonna rebuild or do anything like that. So there's no
35:22
Speaker 6: huge investment in that regard. That's a great investment. So
35:25
Speaker 6: for that to be a soft mart maybe God, could
35:28
Speaker 6: it be that the market and the is softening all
35:33
Speaker 6: the way around in sports?
35:35
Speaker 2: Could be and in this town you get it ten eight,
35:40
Speaker 2: well more like six or eight billion dollar price tag
35:42
Speaker 2: sitting out there on the Sonics.
35:44
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm hearing more and more closer to six. There's
35:47
Speaker 6: the stupid numbers that you get thrown around there. Yeah,
35:49
Speaker 6: I just at some point doesn't pencil off for anybody. Yeah,
35:52
Speaker 6: it just doesn't, right, So yeah, maybe things are softening.
35:55
Speaker 6: That a little bit interesting.
35:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what again, there's no time to able to
36:00
Speaker 2: Jody Allen has to buy it in the league's The league,
36:03
Speaker 2: of course, wants to get it done. Sooner than later,
36:05
Speaker 2: so they can reset franchise valuations. But that's Jody Allen
36:08
Speaker 2: has no impetus to take anything but the best deal.
36:11
Speaker 6: The great Yeah, and that part of the equation reset
36:14
Speaker 6: the franchise evaluations. They want to do that so kind
36:18
Speaker 6: of knows where they stand in case somebody else wants
36:20
Speaker 6: to sell right, correct, But if but they're not going
36:23
Speaker 6: to want to go backwards or stay static. What did
36:26
Speaker 6: the commanders sell.
36:27
Speaker 2: For six point five billion? And so it'll go above
36:30
Speaker 2: that or else they won't sell. The NFL will make
36:33
Speaker 2: sure that they won't set a precedent of it. What
36:34
Speaker 2: do you think the low end would be? If it's six, seven, eight,
36:38
Speaker 2: seven or eight, they'll keep above six or else they
36:40
Speaker 2: won't sell, right right right leg Yeah, yeah, Like do
36:43
Speaker 2: you think it has to hit eight? Do you think
36:44
Speaker 2: it'd be seven ish? I don't think it has to
36:47
Speaker 2: hit eight. No, I think it has to be seven
36:49
Speaker 2: or above so that it can stay above the last sale.
36:51
Speaker 6: I think, see doesn't that just if we want to
36:54
Speaker 6: use and this is just the dumbest thing in the
36:55
Speaker 6: world that I'm going to say common sense in this world.
37:00
Speaker 6: But if we were to use that in some way
37:03
Speaker 6: wouldn't we think, Like, in what world would it make
37:07
Speaker 6: sense for an NBA expansion franchise without the same level
37:11
Speaker 6: of revenue streams and all that, even though the NBA
37:14
Speaker 6: is good with the media to sell for more than that. No, Like,
37:18
Speaker 6: it just doesn't make sense. No, not when the last
37:21
Speaker 6: franchise sold for four The Blazers, right, you know, I
37:24
Speaker 6: know they got issues with building and all that kind
37:26
Speaker 6: of stuff, but they really don't. I mean, they're gonna
37:28
Speaker 6: they're gonna renovate that as long as Dundin doesn't.
37:31
Speaker 2: Up and go.
37:33
Speaker 6: You know, their lease is the exact same tenure of
37:36
Speaker 6: lease left then when as when clay bent and bought
37:39
Speaker 6: Clayton bennettought the Sonics.
37:41
Speaker 2: Oh great, three years, thanks for bringing that out. It's
37:44
Speaker 2: Partland going to buy out the rest.
37:47
Speaker 6: You know what I heard. I heard Wits yesterday with
37:49
Speaker 6: Softy and Fain saying no chance, and and then I
37:52
Speaker 6: heard Canzano two weeks ago say thirty percent chance. So
37:57
Speaker 6: I don't think there's such a thing as no chance,
38:00
Speaker 6: but it it it. I think just Dundan's I think
38:05
Speaker 6: I just can't believe the NBA brought him into the club.
38:07
Speaker 6: I just I just that. I can't fathom. That makes
38:10
Speaker 6: no sense to.
38:10
Speaker 2: Me, just because he had money. I mean, do they
38:13
Speaker 2: not vet these people in Carolina? People will tell you
38:16
Speaker 2: they run the hockey team poorly.
38:18
Speaker 6: I bring it up all the time. Why do we
38:20
Speaker 6: have the best play by play guy in the NHL
38:23
Speaker 6: here in John Forceland? Because that guy is cheap. And
38:27
Speaker 6: he decided he wanted to combine the broadcast me not Johnny. No,
38:33
Speaker 6: he wanted to combine the broadcasts. And instead of having
38:36
Speaker 6: John do assimulcast collaboro style like back in the day,
38:39
Speaker 6: which is still bad broadcasting because one of the products
38:43
Speaker 6: radio will take a back seat. But instead of doing that,
38:46
Speaker 6: he said, now we're gonna bump up the radio guy,
38:48
Speaker 6: pay him far less. And here we are like and
38:51
Speaker 6: they're gonna do the same thing with the Blazers.
38:53
Speaker 2: You know. So two six text lines said, could it
38:55
Speaker 2: be Washington tax, politics and crime?
39:00
Speaker 6: You've tangled that well, listen, I mean the millionaire's taxes,
39:04
Speaker 6: no joke. Schneider's talked about it.
39:06
Speaker 2: He has. But my point is, if you're paying billions
39:09
Speaker 2: of dollars for a team, you're not worried about a tax,
39:12
Speaker 2: a ten percent tax, because everywhere else you've made your money,
39:15
Speaker 2: you've been taxed.
39:16
Speaker 6: Right, depends on where your residency is though, right right, Yeah,
39:19
Speaker 6: because the jock tax. Does a jock tax kick in
39:21
Speaker 6: if a guy's here here and there.
39:23
Speaker 2: I don't know the jock tax even applies to players
39:27
Speaker 2: who are on visiting teams right place.
39:28
Speaker 6: So does it apply to an owner his income?
39:32
Speaker 2: Probably it probably would have on the income made in
39:34
Speaker 2: the state, Yeah, his personal income wherever he lives.
39:39
Speaker 6: No, but yeah, but if his personal incomes tied to
39:41
Speaker 6: the sex yeah, yeah, listen that I truly believe that
39:46
Speaker 6: that is. And I'm with Schneider because one of the
39:49
Speaker 6: things we getting people to come here is free agents
39:52
Speaker 6: is hard. Baseball team will tell you that, Hockey team
39:55
Speaker 6: will tell you that. And Schneider's been able to get
39:57
Speaker 6: some guys, but not everybody.
39:59
Speaker 2: Right. I just don't think it's a deciding factor. I
40:02
Speaker 2: think it's a factor. I think it's I think it
40:03
Speaker 2: can be the tie breaker. Seawan Jenkins is the only
40:07
Speaker 2: guy I've ever heard speak about. I was with the
40:09
Speaker 2: forty nine ers and then I came here, and I
40:11
Speaker 2: decided to come here because of the tax, right. But
40:13
Speaker 2: but he wasn't top of the market million dollars.
40:15
Speaker 6: But if all things being equal and you're looking at okay,
40:18
Speaker 6: uh we what was our advantage over California.
40:22
Speaker 2: Well, everybody has an advantage over thirty percent tax.
40:25
Speaker 6: Right, but California's got son we don't. But we also
40:28
Speaker 6: you're in the salary cap league. Your eight million dollar salary. Yeah,
40:33
Speaker 6: well let's just say ten freeze are even say your
40:34
Speaker 6: ten million dollars salary in our in our state is
40:38
Speaker 6: more than a ten million dollar salary in California, right,
40:40
Speaker 6: And that's I think that makes a big difference. I
40:43
Speaker 6: know it's going to make a difference in the hockey team.
40:44
Speaker 6: One hundred percent of will one hundred percent. Well, because
40:47
Speaker 6: the contracts are smaller. Yeah, but they're all still over
40:49
Speaker 6: a million, you know, so we'll see. But yeah, maybe
40:52
Speaker 6: that's that could be part of it.
40:53
Speaker 5: Who knows.
40:54
Speaker 2: So that's why Austin Matthews.
40:55
Speaker 5: Won't come here.
40:56
Speaker 6: Austin Matthews is born in Arizona.
40:58
Speaker 2: I know he's kid.
41:00
Speaker 6: He's going to be a king, a duck or a Utah.
41:03
Speaker 5: Yeah why Utah.
41:05
Speaker 2: Because it used to be Arizona.
41:07
Speaker 6: Well, Utah's Utah is like a forty minute plane ride
41:10
Speaker 6: to Arizona and the weather's better. To be honest with you,
41:14
Speaker 6: it's sunny there all right.
41:15
Speaker 2: Now, I'm way late, I'm in trouble. What do you
41:17
Speaker 2: get Today?
41:18
Speaker 6: Rob Rang will wrap up a rookie mini camp with us.
41:21
Speaker 6: He was out there and is with his BC Lions
41:23
Speaker 6: scouting gear. So we'll talk to him on two twenty Today,
41:28
Speaker 6: Danie O'Neil at one twenty and the John Harlow Conversation
41:31
Speaker 6: with Jess coming up at two o'clock.
41:32
Speaker 2: Washington State Athletic Director. You know Rob Rang, Your listeners
41:35
Speaker 2: know he's a scout.
41:36
Speaker 6: Yeah, we always bring that, okay, Yeah, Yeah, he's out
41:39
Speaker 6: there trying to poach guys off of Schneider's rookie mini camp.
41:42
Speaker 6: So we'll talk about that.
41:44
Speaker 2: On the tech sign. Why don't you just hanging in
41:46
Speaker 2: about how much he loves watching NBA playoff basketball. You
41:48
Speaker 2: can have a whole discussion about that. He's up next
41:50
Speaker 2: from twelve until three with Anderson Hurst, Greg Bell, Travis Moger.
41:54
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening. Check in with you with Chris
41:56
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