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MLB Playoffs with Matt Snyder, Bill Bender on College Football & Trent's Picks presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Our number 2 Millary Condon welcome back is the Iowa Sports
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  Radio Network. Appreciate you being with us and
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  listening wherever you are in the state of Iowa on winning of
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  our many Philly, it's throughout the state of anywhere on the I
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  Heart app. We will take you until 2:00 off
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  the bench. At that time, Lucas Strain and
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  Sean Roberts 2 until 5 overtime, Iowa At that time.
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  Let's talk some baseball. It's still Detroit 1 Cleveland
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  zip. We're in the bottom of the
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  fourth. There's been a little bit of a
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  delay. Something got broken by a foul
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  ball. Must have been a camera.
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  Anyways, the grounds crew is cleaning that up.
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  So we bring aboard Matt Snyder who's watching this intently.
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  Hello, Matt, Trenton, Ken, how are you?
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  They did a great job in breaking that just in time for our
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  segment. Beautiful.
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  Just everything slowed down while we're talking here, that
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  people have time to tune in and listen to us.
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  Absolutely. You know what, I want to start
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  with you and we'll get to the games.
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  We'll get to the series in just a second.
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  I saw something over the weekend that I found absolutely
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  impossible and I didn't want to bring it up on the air because I
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  want to wait for you as you're a Hall of Fame voter.
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  I know this is not this is not one of the votes that you will.
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  I don't think I cast your ballot for the, but the Ford Ford Frick
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  Award that. I find it hard to believe that.
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  Let me just run down this list. You can only vote for one of
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  these guys, apparently. Do I have that right?
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  I I'm actually not incredibly well versed on that because it
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  doesn't have anything to do with me right as a voter.
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  So I don't know but. Listen to these broadcasters and
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  I'm pretty sure only one of them will gain entrance.
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  Brian Anderson, terrific job. Joe Buck is Joe Buck.
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  Skip Carey, unbelievable career. Renee Cardanis terrific career.
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  Gary Cohen with the Mets, Jacques Ducet, who called Expo's
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  games forever. Dwayne Kiper's been with the
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  Giants for a lifetime. John Rooney started with the
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  Twins, went to the Cardinals, Dan Schulman, Sunday Night
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  Baseball, now the Blue Jays, and John Sterling, who called Yankee
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  games for a million years. How do you limit that to one of
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  these guys? I and, and you know, you're
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  right in thinking about it, We do it.
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  It seems like every year there's one guy, like I remember the
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  year Pat Hughes got in, for example.
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  It's always just one. So yeah, it must just be 1.
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  I don't know if you're allowed to vote for whatever and then
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  the person who gets the most votes is the one who gets in,
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  but I definitely know that there's only one that gets in
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  and that's a that's quite a list.
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  Like, man, I don't know who I maybe skip Carey is it, but I
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  feel like it's my I feel like I'm just going back to who was
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  the one who started the longest to go instead of like who's the,
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  I mean, you know, and I got to say just really, really quick
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  because it's not our primary focus here, but so many people
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  hate Joe Buck. I don't think it's unfair.
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  I actually think he's really, really good.
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  It's just because my working theory in baseball is we watch
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  all of our regional announcers all season and then you get to
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  the playoffs and it's an unbiased party now.
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  And so you always think, Oh, they're rooting for the other
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  team. So through them, I think that's
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  how it goes. I think he's the best in the
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  business. And you absolutely nailed it.
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  And unfortunately, why can't they at minimum get him in one
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  of these wild card series? All right, He doesn't want to do
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  the whole thing. He's employed by and he's making
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  10s of millions of dollars a year.
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  Can't they say let's get 2, maybe three games out of you,
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  Joe? Let's get him back in the booth
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  at least for a wild card series. You, you got a small number.
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  Can you give him a call, Matt? I do not but hey, we both we
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  both went to IU so maybe there you.
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  Go well he worked last night. It's not like he couldn't have
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  got to wherever by tonight. I'm with you 100%.
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  Well, let's get to the here and now.
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  And we're watching Detroit and Cleveland, which will be a
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  remarkable series bigger collapse.
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  Tigers, at least they're in. Or the Mets with all of that
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  payroll. Has to be the Mets, isn't it?
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  Oh, 100% yeah, the Tigers still squeaked in.
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  I, I, you know, I said a few things this morning on our
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  gambling show early edge and I said, first of all, we can't, we
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  shouldn't view the Reds as some like Colorado, 2007 Colorado
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  Rockies team that had this major surge and get in.
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  Do you know the Reds were 33 and 32 after the All Star break.
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  They were 14 and 11 in September, which is good, but
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  it's not not amazing like they they were not a party crasher as
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  much as the Mets just left the door wide open and said please
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  take it, please take it, please take it.
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  And the Reds finally fell in. So it's the Mets collapse was
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  historic. The Tigers collapse was the
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  biggest division collapse in history.
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  But they're in. And the other thing that I said,
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  I talked about a few things. The other thing I talked about
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  this morning on that show was I just wonder if the Tigers will
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  breathe a lot easier now that that race is over and they don't
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  have to look at the standings anymore.
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  And it's just, hey, it's 00 for everybody right now.
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  We can start over. We have a clean slate.
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  Everybody thinks we're going to lose because we had that
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  collapse. How you just there's no pressure
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  and sure enough, they go out and they score in the first inning.
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  So and Google has mostly been feeling, but now there's two
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  rushes. In trouble now.
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  Yeah, so I, I just, I actually, I think so many people wanted to
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  pick the Guardians going into the series because of momentum
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  and they're at home. And that makes sense to me.
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  I just, I kind of had a Tigers gut feeling calling out to me.
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  You mentioned the Reds and them getting into the playoffs and
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  more about the Mets collapse than anything.
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  Ken asked me earlier. Do you give him any shot?
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  Is this an and it's baseball, It's a three-game series and
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  because of that there is definitely a shot just because
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  of the nature of the game. However, the hill isn't clear.
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  I'd be hard and even if they force a game three, it sounds
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  like Otani is going to be the guy for the Dodgers in game
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  three. Good luck with that.
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  What is the path if we're talking about short series, a
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  huge upset. What did the Reds have to do to
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  pull this off? Yeah, so the the gut instinct is
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  the Dodgers are just going to steamroll them because they're
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  so much better. They're they're, I believe, 10
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  games better than the regular season.
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  And I think that the gap in the talent is much wider than that.
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  It's closer to 20 because the Dodgers were on cruise control
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  until a couple weeks ago and they won 15 to the last 20.
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  And we're blowing teams out. And I feel like they're ready.
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  They're ready to make that deep run.
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  And again, the Reds, they're more mediocre than a playoff
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  caliber team. They just were let in by a
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  terrible lapse. But as you said, and it's true,
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  it's only a three-game series. We, we've seen, you know, the
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  White Sox last year when they were the worst team in baseball
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  history, they took two of three from some teams in there.
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  Like that's all you have to do is just take two of three.
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  And they've got Hunter Green on the mound tonight.
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  I I still believe that Dodgers will win because Blake Snell is
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  going to deal as well as I think Hunter Green might.
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  And the Dodgers offense is much better than the Reds.
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  The Reds don't have a very good offense.
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  They don't hit lefties well, but you've got Hunter Green on the
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  mound and you've got that whole everybody's counting us out
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  things. So you have no pressure
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  whatsoever. And if they somehow steal game
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  one, now all of a sudden the Dodgers have to weigh to the
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  world on their shoulders and the Reds can run out Andrew Abbott.
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  And then if they get to game three, they can run out Nicola,
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  assuming his groin is OK after that great outing last time out.
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  So you can piece it together for the Reds.
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  You really can't. I just, I'm not saying it.
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  Yeah, win game one, maybe get an early lead in Game 2, and then
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  yeah, yeah, they start squeezing those bats a little tighter.
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  We'll see where it goes. Yankees, Red Sox tonight.
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  Why can't the Yankees win this series?
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  Well, I you see how it took me a second because I think they will
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  win. I think the offense is just too
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  good, but I think it starts tonight with Garrett Crochet.
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  You can get Stevens strong innings from Garrett Crochet.
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  Garrett Whitlock is arguably the best set up man in baseball.
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  And then holy cow, play the play to end the inning.
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  It's unbelievable. I think he's safe.
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  I think he's safe. Is he OK?
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  I think OK, yeah, they're going to review.
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  OK. It's the 6th inning all over
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  again from that game. A couple of the unbelievable
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  it's happening again. Yeah, so anyway, the Red Sox was
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  the formula is Garrett Crochet dominates for seven innings.
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  Garrett Whitlock as a set up man is great.
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  Aroldis Chapman's having a career year.
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  Yeah, he's safe at home. So it's going to be 1/1 blue key
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  inning for the Guardian. There, But yeah, thank God for
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  replay. Pitching, yeah, the Red Sox,
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  it's pitching. It's hold the Yankees down
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  tonight. And then it's just what we
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  talked about it. You're up 1, nothing.
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  And you know, the Red Sox have kind of played above their heads
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  a little bit this season, but they can keep doing it because
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  they have a decent number of pieces.
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  I just feel like the lineup's a little lacking.
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  They don't have a superstar in the middle of the order.
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  And and let's remember on the Yankees side, in addition to
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  having Aaron Judge, John Carlos standing at 24 bombs less than
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  1/2 season. So you're basically talking
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  about 250 Homer guys in there in addition to Grisham with 34
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  bombs. And then Cody Bellinger and Jazz
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  says I'm like there's power up and down this line.
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  Even Austin Wells and Ben Rice at 20 home runs.
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  So I think the Yankees have too much firepower.
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  But with the Red Sox, it starts tonight with Crochet Whitlock
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  the role as Chapman. Who should be the betting
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  favorite in the American League? All these teams have some pretty
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  major warts and it felt like we've been having this
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  conversation since like May that that just there's nobody that
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  you can really put a Big Bear hug around in this team that you
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  absolutely love at this point. Who should be the betting
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  favorite? So I picked the Mariners to go
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  to the World Series before the odds came out.
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  I think the Blue Jays have a really good case.
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  They have the buy. They have the great, great
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  offense. Pitching is a little shaky.
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  I think the best values on the Yankees.
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  Like you, I just talked about the Yankees offense.
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  If they get that bullpen figured out at all, they've got Frieden
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  Rodon atop the rotation. Louis Hill looks OK.
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  Schlittler looks OK. I think the Yankees are best set
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  up for run to the World Series. I'm going to, I'm going to hold
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  out hope that we see Blue Jays, Mariners because I I would like
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  to see some new blood and Mariners have never made the
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  World Series. Blue Jays haven't been to the
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  World Series since 1993. This is their most wins since
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  1993 this season. So I think it would be fun.
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  But just speaking objectively, I feel like the Yankees are the
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  best set up. Of the teams that have a buy
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  American League, National League, who's the one that goes
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  by the wayside? First Brewers.
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  Brewers. I I just interesting.
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  I I talking about our gambling show this morning.
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  I took the Cubs to get to the NLCS and then a few people
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  argued with me in the chat like, I think Padre is going to win.
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  I was like, fine, then take the Padre.
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  I'm mostly fading the Brewers here because since they were
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  winning and playing way over their heads about six weeks ago,
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  once that winning streak stopped, they were 19 and 21.
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  That's a relatively small scample sample of man.
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  That's 40 games of mediocrity and being below 500.
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  And Jose Quintana's hurt, Brandon Woodruff's hurt, Jacob
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  Mesorowski has completely fallen apart.
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  You just can't be sure about the rotation behind Freddy Peralta
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  there. And they don't slug.
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  And I feel like in the postseason you need to slug
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  because pitching is better, defense is better.
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  You're not going to be able to string together hit after hit
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  after hit. You need to be able to hit the
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  ball of the ballpark and they just don't have the power that
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  teams like the Cubs and Dodgers and Phillies do on the National
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  League side. So I I've got the Brewers bowing
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  out early. Let's jump to the biggest
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  conversation, most important one in our market and certainly for
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  you, Matt, as a Cubs fan. Let's talk about these Cubs.
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  Is this set against the Padres? Felt like for a long time this
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  was a series we're going to get though there was that.
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  Oh no, is this thing going to have to move to San Diego?
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  Alas, the Cubs able to get it done and and help them off to
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  get that four spot and home field in the opening round.
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  Horton done at least for the series with the coughing rib
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  injury, which is just so baseball the way that that
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  played out. Where do you feel right now as a
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  Cubs fan and as somebody that tries to look at it objectively?
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  Where do you sit as the Cubs get into it saying that you picked
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  him to get to the NLCSI? Have concerns about Boyd.
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  Obviously he hasn't been nearly as good since the start of
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  August. You worry about he hit the wall.
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  I have concerns about if Ipanaga starts and the winds blowing out
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  because he gives up so many fly balls.
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  But I do think the Cubs are the better team and I think there's
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  a decent gap there. Like as big of a gap as you can
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  have in a playoff there is between two teams that are close
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  and wins there. There's a decent gap there.
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  I don't really trust the Padres rotation and and their offense
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  is just not powerful. They were 28th and home runs
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  this year. They do have an amazing bullpen,
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  so I'm worried about railing heading into the 6th inning and
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  then the bullpen just completely closing the door.
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  I am worried about that. But there were things late in
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  the season that encouraged me for the Cubs.
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  Michael Bush was really, really hot at the top of the order
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  there. left-hander against Padres, riding Nick Pavetta
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  here. Kyle Tucker back from injury,
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  got a couple knocks. That's good.
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  He's a lefty as well. Pete Armstrong feels like he got
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  his mojo back a little bit and that in that last week at the
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  plate. And Fayette Suzuki hit five home
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  runs in the last four after two, the entire second-half before
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  that, he again, I think he's internally an emotional guy and
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  he was beating himself up about how bad he's been playing.
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  But now he can breathe easier and he feels like he's back.
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  I think that's going to between those guys and then how deep the
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  lineup can be with guys like by Esteros, Dansby Swanson, Nico
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  Horner, the Super glue of this team.
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  I think that the the offense is just so deep and so good that
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  they're going to be good enough to to have a run to the NLCF.
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  I think the MVP of that team, Nicole Horner, had a phenomenal,
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  phenomenal year. Let me get your take on on
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  Saturday. Marmal intentionally walking
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  Michael Bush. So there was a runner on 3rd.
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  It's the 8th inning, Cubs are up for he'd he'd hit a couple of
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  homers. He's he's got his triple, he's
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  got his double. He just needed a single for the
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  cycle. The Cubs did not yet clinched
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  the four seed. They would been won by winning
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  that game. Your thoughts?
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  Was it a Bush league move by if it would have been any other
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  team other than the Cardinals, what would they have done?
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  I can see both sides of it like I can see, you know, you're not
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  playing for anything right now, you know, just be a competitor,
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  go out and try to get them out. But I can also see the side of
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  why should we let our rivals party against us all weekend and
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  and continue to give them chances to celebrate.
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  So I I can see both sides of the specs, pettiness and sports.
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  I wouldn't want my rivals to be able to have extra fun.
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  So that's kind of what sports are all about, right?
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  So, yeah, like, why would you want to give your rival an extra
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  chance to to be extra excited when they've been celebrating
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  all weekend with blow out wins? Like, yeah, I I can see the
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  pettiness to it. Turner's on the playoff roster,
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  Ken. I'm sure you saw that this
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  morning. You had a big jump.
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  Oh yeah, that's the. Expensive Who?
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  Well, and that's Katara. That's the.
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  Question, he's on there. Who would you put in place?
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  And I know Ken's got a problem with it.
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  Matt Snyder, do you have a problem with Justin Turner being
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  part of the 26 man roster? I I know what council, it seems
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  like council never wants Michael Bush to face lefty.
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  So he he he wants to keep the powder dry.
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  If there's a big at bat against the left-hander late in the game
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  to be able to pin to attention with Justin Turner, to have the
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  right lefty advantage there. That's the purpose of it.
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  I don't know if I totally agree. I I would rather just at this
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  point let Bush face left. He hit a home run against the
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  lefty over the weekend for Pete's sake, but that's what
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  he's there for. It's also because they don't
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  want Biasteros to see lefties, so if he's in the DH spot they
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  might pinch it. Turner there, but I don't love
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  it. I don't feel like he's very
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  productive, and I know that he's a great clubhouse guy and we've
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  seen him all year talking to Matt Shaw on the bench, for
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  example. And one time Shaw was upset when
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  he got taken out and turned her head.
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  His arm around him was talking him down.
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  He doesn't have to be on the active roster to be able to do
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  that. He could still be in the dugout.
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  So yeah, I don't love it. Hopefully he's just there in
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  case he has like really good numbers against a certain lefty
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  or something like that. But yeah, I'm with you.
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  Who starts game three if there is one for the Cubs?
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  It's Tyone. It's got to be right.
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  I don't think there's any question about that.
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  I don't. Think there's any other option?
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  I was actually wondering about even if they could have lined it
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  up differently in the last couple weeks, which they didn't
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  have the option because they had to fight for that home field.
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  But I was like, man, I would almost trust Tyone more than
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  Boyd and Ibanaga game one at this point because I'm worried
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  about Imanaga's fly balls and Boyd was shaky down the strip.
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  But there are some analytics that, and This is why the Cubs
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  focused on getting Boyd in the offseason as cheaply as they
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  did. There's some analytics that say
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  that that Wrigley Field is the most pitcher friendly ballpark
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  for left-handed pitchers in baseball other than Seattle,
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  which is the most pitcher friendly for everybody.
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  So and then the Padres do hit worse against lefties and
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  righties. So I think that's what the Cubs
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  are saying is between the ballpark and the Padres.
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  Let's run 2 lefties out in the first two games.
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  Ten players traded. Ownership doesn't change.
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  Here we go. No boy blame.
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  The manager, Rocco here's. Your favor.
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  You did him a favor. Absolutely.
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  Get out of there. Get out of that just decrepit,
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  awful organization. I don't feel bad for him because
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  I think it's going to be better for him in the long run.
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  It's certainly disappointing. I like Rocco.
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  I I liked him as a manager. It had nothing to do with him.
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  I don't believe certainly this season, but somebody I guess had
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  to take the fall and and it's going to go to Rocco Baldelli.
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  But that organization, it is not looking good, certainly for the
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  future and even in the interim for the next four or five years.
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  Yeah, I'm sorry, man. I I kind of feel like this is
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  going to Well, first of all, this goes back to when they
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  finally won a playoff theory in advance.
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  And then right away in the offseason, what do we hear?
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  Ownership wants the Cup team. And then now we're worried about
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  instead of capitalizing on advancing in the playoffs and
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  building around a really good core, the word from ownership
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  was cut, cut salary. And it's gone downhill from
• 18:50
  then. And you get to where we are
• 18:52
  right now and it looks like it's going to be a tear down, a
• 18:56
  continue continuation of the tear down that started in July,
• 19:01
  which means trying to shed Pablo Lopez's salary.
• 19:04
  And if you're going to do that, why wouldn't you move Joe Ryan
• 19:07
  and see what prospects can get back?
• 19:08
  And if you're going to do that, why wouldn't you move Bailey
• 19:10
  over? And if you're going to do that,
• 19:12
  would Byron Buxton finally say, you know what?
• 19:16
  I will let you trade me now, even though I've said I'd never
• 19:19
  want to leave here. So I my expectation is that they
• 19:24
  will will be the worst team in the American League next year.
• 19:27
  I don't know if they can be worse than the Rockies for the
• 19:30
  worst record in baseball, but it's possible.
• 19:32
  So again, sorry man. Thanks.
• 19:34
  You're looking up for the White Sox in that division.
• 19:36
  There you go, not not going to finish the last next season
• 19:38
  because the twins will have that finished up.
• 19:40
  Final thing, I had my notes for you, Matt, in our final minute
• 19:43
  or so with the teams that get the bye.
• 19:45
  It's the five games off and we know when we get to the weekend,
• 19:48
  this is going to be certainly a big topic once we get through
• 19:50
  these World Series rounds. I know you've looked at it.
• 19:53
  I know we've talked about it in the past.
• 19:55
  Just to remind me and remind our listeners as well, is it as
• 19:58
  impactful? Is it a big deal?
• 20:00
  Or do they have this set up at least as close to right as they
• 20:03
  can do it? I think it's perfectly fine.
• 20:06
  The break is the same number of days as the All Star break.
• 20:09
  And, and I know that some people would say, well, some teams get
• 20:12
  to keep playing and the others don't.
• 20:14
  Well, when you get to take days off, let's just say, for
• 20:16
  example, we just talked about the Cubs with Kate Horton being
• 20:19
  hurt, well, you know, you have that break and you might not
• 20:22
  have to get through a series and then all of a sudden, maybe
• 20:24
  Horton's ready to go. Blue Jays, same thing.
• 20:26
  It looks like Beau Bichette might be OK for the ALDS.
• 20:29
  They don't have to worry about losing in the wild card round
• 20:31
  without him. And I know that much was made of
• 20:35
  it. From it came a lot from Braves,
• 20:38
  Braves fans, Braves media. I think even some of the players
• 20:41
  insinuated that the day that those days off hurt them before
• 20:44
  they got beat by the Phillies two years in a row.
• 20:47
  But I think way too much was made of that because in the same
• 20:51
  like 2022, the Astros went seven and O on the AL side of the
• 20:55
  playoffs. After their buy, they were fine.
• 20:58
  So I, I just, I think too much is being made of it.
• 21:01
  And, and that that's why last year I was relieved to see 2 by
• 21:05
  teams get to the World Series. And hopefully that would shut
• 21:08
  down some of that talk. Because if we kept having wild
• 21:11
  card teams get to the World Series, the talk would have
• 21:13
  built up more and more and more to the point where my concern
• 21:16
  would be, are we going to do 8 seeds in both leagues now just
• 21:19
  so nobody has buys? Because look at this year with
• 21:22
  the Reds getting in the playoffs, if we go up to 8,
• 21:25
  we're going to end up with teams with losing records in the
• 21:28
  playoffs at some point. And I mean, this year we're
• 21:32
  talking about the Mets getting in and then I believe the Giant,
• 21:35
  the 81 and 81, the Giants, a playoff team and you're going to
• 21:38
  put them in a three-game series against the one seed.
• 21:41
  That ain't right. So that was my biggest concern.
• 21:44
  And I'm glad, like I said that last year, we kind of Dave that
• 21:47
  off with it being Dodgers, Yankees.
• 21:49
  Get back to the game, Matt Snyder.
• 21:50
  Thanks for doing this, as always, brother.
• 21:52
  Appreciate. We'll grab you next Tuesday.
• 21:54
  Thank you, Matt. All right, take care.
• 21:56
  Yeah, good to talk to you. Matt Snyder, as we check him on
• 21:58
  MLB 11, bottom of five, nobody on.
• 22:02
  There is one out as we continue on here.
• 22:05
  Bill Benner will join Trent tonight.
• 22:06
  Next we will get into college football.
• 22:08
  Bill Bright writes for The Sporting News.
• 22:10
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• 22:12
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• 22:23
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• 22:56
  at 12:40. Bill Bender joins us right now.
• 22:58
  Talk about college football, Bill, Trenton, Ken.
• 23:00
  Remarkable weekend has come and gone.
• 23:04
  I guess we'll start with, you know, I get maybe the biggest
• 23:07
  story was again, the failure of Penn State to knock off a top 10
• 23:10
  opponent. James Franklin seems to carry
• 23:12
  that bugaboo around with him and it happened again.
• 23:16
  They clawed their way back into it to tight and sent it overtime
• 23:19
  but ultimately couldn't get it done.
• 23:21
  Your thoughts on what ails Penn State when it comes to these
• 23:23
  markets? Key games.
• 23:25
  Well, the problem with it is I can't, you can't, I can't
• 23:29
  pinpoint something he did wrong in the game playing about
• 23:34
  punting from the 39 yard line close game and it was 4th and
• 23:40
  9:00. But I was thinking, OK, if they
• 23:41
  throw it there and incompletion, we're all going to say, well,
• 23:44
  James Franklin should have played field position there.
• 23:46
  So it's really wearing on them. I I know you guys know about
• 23:50
  stadium moods and it just feels like you can feel even in an
• 23:56
  environment that often you can feel the frustration permeating
• 23:59
  throughout the place. A question that I have is it was
• 24:03
  all set up for this year and if it doesn't happen, if they're
• 24:06
  good, they make the playoff, they win a game, but there's not
• 24:09
  a national championship game even appearance if or a path
• 24:13
  where you beat a Boise, maybe this year it's a beat a Memphis
• 24:16
  and then that's it. Would James Franklin look of
• 24:19
  pulling the ripcord of looking for one of the SEC jobs that are
• 24:23
  open going back to where he began his career with
• 24:25
  Vanderbilt? It is is that a possibility
• 24:28
  because it's all set up for this year.
• 24:30
  They're always going to be there, but the Big 10 is always
• 24:32
  going to be and knowing just how the fan base is that the
• 24:36
  possibility get out before the posse comes after you.
• 24:38
  Could you see Franklin looking into that if the season goes
• 24:41
  that way? This has been rumored before, so
• 24:47
  I'm not sure what the good answer is.
• 24:49
  I mean, he could so he could do at Florida what he's doing at
• 24:52
  Penn State, but they would get mad if he lost all the top ten
• 24:55
  names too. It's true.
• 24:56
  You know what I mean? Up to like that's one that
• 24:58
  sticks out. I don't, you know, like of the
• 25:00
  available job. Like I don't see James Franklin
• 25:02
  going to UCLA. I don't see him going to
• 25:06
  Arkansas anywhere like that. But you do bring up an
• 25:09
  interesting point. Some coaches, this becomes a
• 25:12
  thing and then, yeah, that if the parachute's there, why not
• 25:16
  take it? But I just for Penn State, I
• 25:19
  must. I won't say I feel bad, but I
• 25:21
  feel like I, I empathize with the situation because I did
• 25:26
  actually think when they tied it up Saturday that, hey, they're
• 25:29
  going to breakthrough and win this one.
• 25:30
  Yeah. Bill, who's the best team in the
• 25:32
  SEC? I'm trying to figure that out
• 25:36
  now. I've got a spreadsheet and I'm
• 25:37
  kind of trying to project right now.
• 25:41
  Probably old men. Uh huh.
• 25:44
  Like with Trinidad, Chambliss and Lane, Tiffin has it going
• 25:47
  into the season. I think it's going to be Alabama
• 25:52
  looking at these schedules. I've got five teams left.
• 25:54
  You caught him doing a spreadsheet of try.
• 25:56
  Like if the chalk holds up, they're going to have a car pile
• 25:59
  up with 10 win teams and nine win teams.
• 26:01
  And it's going to be, even if you thought last year was bad,
• 26:04
  this one could potentially be much more messy, you know,
• 26:08
  especially with, like, Vanderbilt.
• 26:10
  And, you know, there's some weird tea games in there.
• 26:12
  So my answer is Ole Miss right now, Alabama at the end.
• 26:18
  And I'm not giving up on Texas because I still love their
• 26:21
  defense. You have Oklahoma, who's going
• 26:23
  to be without Metir, likely going to not be there for the
• 26:25
  Red River Shootout, maybe back for the South Carolina game.
• 26:29
  But when you talk about those teams and potentially when we're
• 26:31
  looking, those last teams in, say, Oklahoma goes 9:00 and 3:00
• 26:35
  and they lose, say, two games or a game when he's getting back
• 26:38
  out there. And yet they kind of catch fire
• 26:40
  again late in the season. They get a win either at
• 26:42
  Tennessee or Alabama, yet they finished nine and three.
• 26:46
  I mean, their argument is going to be incredibly strong because
• 26:49
  of that injury. I mean, you're just adding layer
• 26:51
  after layer after layer. What have you heard though?
• 26:53
  What is the latest of material? Is it that South Carolina game
• 26:55
  they're still targeting? Yeah, I mean, it's going to be
• 26:57
  close. I mean, that obviously should be
• 26:59
  OK against Kent State and not sure who made the Kent State
• 27:03
  schedule, but when you put Texas Tech, Florida State and at least
• 27:08
  their players will have good tape honestly if they're getting
• 27:11
  looked at for the next level. But I, I, I still think it's
• 27:16
  going to just looking at the state of these conferences, I
• 27:20
  think ten wins is still going to be buying to get in.
• 27:23
  I do because I, especially in the Big 10 in the SEC, go ahead.
• 27:27
  I was going to say Notre Dame. What did they do?
• 27:29
  I mean, obviously they pummelled Arkansas.
• 27:31
  I can't tell you how much I'm impressed by car.
• 27:34
  I really and truly am. I like this kid a lot.
• 27:37
  He showed out. The stage was not too big for
• 27:40
  him. And on opening week, when they
• 27:43
  lost to Miami, I think Notre Dame is very much alive.
• 27:46
  And there were a lot of folks out there, Bill, that thought
• 27:48
  that this past weekend was going to eliminate Notre Dame from any
• 27:52
  playoff conversation. I look at the rest of their
• 27:54
  schedule, maybe USC, but that would be about it.
• 28:00
  They're going back to the playoff, aren't they?
• 28:03
  And This is why ten wins is the buy in because I think they are
• 28:06
  going to get to 10 wins. I think I don't think they're
• 28:09
  going to lose. I think they're the 28 point
• 28:11
  second quarter was eye opening. You have a quarterback who's
• 28:15
  maturing very quickly and an awesome running game.
• 28:18
  Defense is better. Yeah.
• 28:21
  So there you go. So let's I'm saying like if
• 28:23
  you're a nine win SEC or nine win Big 10 team, Now Notre Dame,
• 28:31
  follow me on this real quick. I think they want Miami to just
• 28:34
  go win the ACC, dominate the ACC and go win it because then that
• 28:38
  win, that loss doesn't look bad. And I think they kind of need
• 28:41
  Texas A&M to get out of the way though, like they need Texas A&M
• 28:44
  to lose a few. And so that at the end it was 10
• 28:48
  and two Texas A&M and 10 and 2 Notre Dame.
• 28:50
  You know what the committee is going to do there.
• 28:53
  Speaking of Notre Dame, you know Boise looked dreadful on that
• 28:56
  opening Thursday. Everybody was watching because
• 28:58
  it was that late afternoon kickoff and everybody jumped
• 29:01
  aboard there. They just looked awful though.
• 29:04
  Since then, they put up 5149 and 47 points.
• 29:07
  They are playing much better and the Notre Dame defense sucks.
• 29:10
  How could we see a crazy shoot out here and all of a sudden now
• 29:14
  it's the middle of the fourth quarter and it's 4138 and
• 29:17
  Boise's right there. Do they have enough to be able
• 29:19
  to do something crazy like that just because of all the warts
• 29:22
  that we see in that Notre Dame defense?
• 29:24
  Yeah, I think Boise State will hang around.
• 29:26
  I do. I think they've got a team that
• 29:27
  can absolutely hang around in this game.
• 29:29
  And As for against the spread, it's been a rough September for
• 29:33
  me. I mean, but.
• 29:35
  I think the peak of it, and I'm glad I'm talking to you too, the
• 29:38
  peak of it was watching Fernando Mendoza run into that end zone.
• 29:43
  And I just said, you know what, guys?
• 29:45
  I'm done getting mad about it. I'm done freaking out.
• 29:48
  I'm done. Because if they're going to do
• 29:50
  that and go from there. But my point, but to your point,
• 29:54
  Trent, yes, I think Boise State's going to hang around in
• 29:57
  that game, make it a fun one. And you know, I don't know what
• 30:01
  the spread dropped to. It was 17 1/2.
• 30:04
  It's up to 20 1/2. Jesus, yeah.
• 30:08
  Yeah, I'll take a Boise there. Yeah, last thing for me, Bill,
• 30:11
  the audience likes to hear you opine on the two locals you
• 30:14
  mentioned Mendoza and running into the end zone, but that was,
• 30:16
  I mean Kennick Stadium almost did it again.
• 30:19
  That was my take away that the the fan base was in full throat
• 30:22
  and Kennick being Kennick, such a great place, a tough place to
• 30:25
  play. And then Iowa State took care of
• 30:27
  an Arizona team that their arrow seemingly was pointed up there
• 30:30
  unbeaten. They don't have Texas Tech on
• 30:32
  the schedule. Or maybe you can look at a
• 30:34
  different way. Texas Tech doesn't have Iowa
• 30:36
  State on the schedule. Your your thoughts on the clones
• 30:39
  and the Hawkeyes. Well, the Hawks said.
• 30:43
  I thought they were going to pull that game out at the annual
• 30:46
  Be the Top Ten team and you know, I think they showed a lot
• 30:49
  in that game now, but you got to give credit to Fernando Mendoza
• 30:53
  making that throw at the right time.
• 30:55
  Now, Iowa State this weekend right in my backyard.
• 31:00
  Cincinnati Thorsby is pretty good.
• 31:04
  He played well. So this is a tricky 1 and I
• 31:08
  still picked Iowa State to win. But just beware of this
• 31:11
  Cincinnati team because Thorsby, you saw him against Nebraska,
• 31:15
  Got a little, got a little. I, I, I was on a show earlier
• 31:20
  this week, Tim Brew in Cincinnati compared him to Baker
• 31:23
  Mayfield, A little bit of that in his game.
• 31:26
  You'll see it. Hi, Kansas health game, Yes,
• 31:29
  Yeah. It's it's going to be outside.
• 31:31
  Hey, I wanted to ask you about the Heisman Trophy.
• 31:34
  Mitchell Mendoza. He's up there towards the top
• 31:36
  betting choice. Dante Moore now is the favorite
• 31:39
  plus 750 for him. And then Ty Simpson is the
• 31:42
  second choice, which he was great.
• 31:44
  Certainly in the first half against Georgia, they held on
• 31:47
  and got the victory there. Still, as we get ready tomorrow
• 31:50
  to flip the calendar to October, this thing, boy, it still feels
• 31:53
  wide open. And you got Carson Beck up
• 31:55
  there, of course, Jeremiah Smith, on and on and on.
• 31:58
  Your sixth choice is a guy that didn't even start playing until
• 32:00
  Game 3. And Chambliss, who we talked
• 32:01
  about earlier, it feels like a really open race in the Heisman.
• 32:05
  Do you see it the same way? Yep, and it's going to keep
• 32:09
  changing. Now, I still think I still think
• 32:12
  Jeremiah Smith is the guy to watch because Smith is the guy
• 32:17
  that he's going to have big numbers every week.
• 32:19
  If he keeps scoring like a touchdown every week as big
• 32:21
  games against Penn State and Michigan, he'll be that guy
• 32:24
  because these quarterbacks have just come and gone.
• 32:27
  Dante Moore did make a really good statement at Penn State,
• 32:32
  especially in the overtime session.
• 32:34
  They have back-to-back touchdowns and we just cool in
• 32:37
  that environment. It was cool to see so and
• 32:40
  Mendoza's right there, too. So there are plenty of Big 10
• 32:42
  guys in the mix. Can be fascinating race Bill.
• 32:45
  As always, thank you, buddy. We'll talk to you next week.
• 32:47
  Thank you, Bill Bender. Hey, enjoy the playoff baseball,
• 32:50
  enjoy the weekend. I'll talk to you guys next.
• 32:52
  Week. Oh, yeah, I thank you.
• 32:53
  Bill Bender from the Sporting News.
• 32:55
  Yeah, I was kind of surprised he wasn't in Cleveland for this one
• 32:57
  that Sporting News didn't. I'm jumping the car and head to
• 33:00
  the ballpark. He said his wife is a Guardians
• 33:03
  fan. Yeah, I knew that.
• 33:03
  He's a Padres fan. He's.
• 33:05
  A Padres fan? Yeah.
• 33:07
  How the hell did he be Tony Quinn?
• 33:08
  Yes, Bill, the same age as me. Same thing in my affinity for
• 33:11
  the Padres and because of Tony Quinn.
• 33:14
  But he said where he is right now.
• 33:15
  Tons of Reds fans, ton of Guardian fans and of course, ton
• 33:18
  of Cubs fans still up there as well.
• 33:20
  So he said. It's been a fun week of talking
• 33:22
  baseball to a lot of people, yeah.
• 33:24
  It is. It's a great time of year, no
• 33:25
  doubt about it. All right, we'll take time out,
• 33:27
  come back. Trent's plays of the day,
• 33:28
  They're coming up next, three baseball games to a pine on.
• 33:32
  We'll get his thoughts on that. What else is there tonight?
• 33:35
  Is there any? Is there WNBA?
• 33:38
  The WNBA goes tonight, it will be the decider with a fever and
• 33:43
  the Aces 8 1/2 the number. In Vegas.
• 33:47
  In Vegas. Well, is that on your card?
• 33:51
  Looking at it right now. Miller and Condon back with
• 33:55
  Trent's plays of the day circus sports sponsors, it's the Iowa
• 33:58
  Sports Radio Network. Hi Miller and Condon welcome
• 34:03
  back final couple of minutes here on a Tuesday off the bench
• 34:06
  coming up top of the hour, Sean Roberts, Lucas strain take you
• 34:09
  until 5 still tied up 1 apiece in game one of the Cleveland
• 34:13
  Detroit series. They're playing in the 7th
• 34:15
  inning, but the Tigers have runners on 1st and 3rd.
• 34:19
  There's nobody out. Williams has just been chased
• 34:22
  from the game. Scubal still schooling as far as
• 34:25
  we know for the Tigers. At least he wasn't that last
• 34:27
  inning, so we'll see if the Tigers can push one around.
• 34:29
  Nobody out. Runners on 1st and 3rd as we sit
• 34:32
  through a pitching change. I told you a very added big part
• 34:35
  of the oddity of the schedule. Gavin Williams, This is his
• 34:38
  third straight start against the Tigers.
• 34:41
  Two to end the regular season, 1 here in the playoffs.
• 34:43
  And he pitched really well today.
• 34:44
  And he's been very well today, outstanding against the Tigers
• 34:47
  in the two previous, had 12 strikeouts in one of those
• 34:49
  games, not in the other. Didn't give it up or run in that
• 34:52
  one. But a little bit of trouble here
• 34:55
  as we play in the 7th. All right now, Fisher Caller,
• 34:58
  the very gifted player for the Minnesota Lynx who got injured.
• 35:02
  Sadly, your season probably come to an end, right?
• 35:03
  She is out for the year. This is what she just said
• 35:06
  recently within the last hour at a press conference.
• 35:09
  We have the best players in the world.
• 35:11
  We have the best fans in the world, but right now we have the
• 35:13
  worst leadership in the world. Well done.
• 35:16
  Apparently, Kathy Englehart, the commissioner, said this to
• 35:21
  Nafisha. I don't know if it was privately
• 35:23
  or not. Caitlin should be grateful she's
• 35:25
  making 60 million off the court because without the platform of
• 35:28
  the West, she wouldn't be making anything.
• 35:31
  What? What is she doing?
• 35:34
  All of her detractors? I mean, if this just doesn't sum
• 35:37
  it up, my good God. Anyways, I haven't watched
• 35:42
  anything since she hasn't played.
• 35:43
  So there you go. Yeah, I just can't do it.
• 35:45
  I'm a Caitlin Clark fan. It's.
• 35:46
  A rarity for me. I might TuneIn tonight, but I
• 35:50
  think this is going to be a blog.
• 35:51
  You do. It's been a great story by the
• 35:53
  fever getting to. This point so banged up there,
• 35:55
  so many players out. And to get to the semifinals of
• 35:58
  credit, to get to a game five against this Aces team.
• 36:01
  But Vegas is so good at home. They were 17 to 5 in the regular
• 36:04
  season. Their Rd. home splits are pretty
• 36:06
  significant. Where are they playing and are
• 36:07
  they at the Mandalay Bay, their home cordure?
• 36:09
  They didn't. They didn't take it to T-Mobile.
• 36:11
  Now if Caitlin was playing, it would be a T-Mobile, right?
• 36:14
  Assuming there's nothing going. On This is in Paradise, so it's
• 36:17
  in the Michelob Ultra arena there.
• 36:19
  Yeah, well, I'm going to lay the 8.
• 36:22
  You're laying the 8. Laying the 8:00 with the Aces.
• 36:25
  What else you doing? I got one other game and then
• 36:27
  three plot props. I'm playing, as you know, I like
• 36:30
  these. When we get to the playoffs,
• 36:32
  this is when I start to get into baseball.
• 36:33
  Props, a whole lot more digging in.
• 36:35
  So I'm going to play the Cubs today -122 We talked about that
• 36:38
  earlier. Though Boyd's had his issues.
• 36:40
  I'm not a believer in Pavetta. His splits have been awful in
• 36:42
  Wrigley Field. I'll lay the -122 at Circa as
• 36:46
  opposed to the -140 that is there at other places.
• 36:50
  Yeah -1 and 22 for the Cubs for me.
• 36:53
  And then three props, all right, two pitching ones.
• 36:56
  I'm going Freed over 5 1/2 strikeouts.
• 36:58
  Got to lay some juice there -135 But I'm going to do that with
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  Freed in the matchup tonight against the Red Sox.
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  Just looking forward to the theater of that too.
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  Well, how about the pitching matchup?
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  Red Sox. Yankees.
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  How about that squeeze bunt? Yeah, I think it was probably a
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  suicide squid. He was off.
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  To. Safety squeeze might have been,
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  might have been but went the other way and I think the guy on
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  3rd whoever it was. It was Mckinstry who's fast.
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  Yeah, well, 2121 DEET now with a runner on second base, two out.
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  And yeah, still threatening with a runner in scoring position.
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  No safety squeeze. Now look, you're right, Trent.
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  Yep. 5 1/2 / 4 Freed. I'm going under an outs recorded
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  for hunter green. I like Hunter Green a lot.
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  This moment coming off the injury, though, as good as he
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  has been, and then going up against that line up where they
• 37:48
  just grind the crap out of you. Under 16 outs recorded for
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  Hunter green -144 in that one. And then my final one is a
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  little bit goofy, just throwing like 1/2 unit on it.
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  I've taken Judge to Homer. We know about his issues come
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  playoff time. He's not the same guy.
• 38:05
  Statistically, he hasn't been the same, but it's always about
• 38:08
  October. Look at the calendar.
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  It's the 30th of September, so let's come talk to me tomorrow.
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  Right. Plus 230 Judge homers and we'll
• 38:17
  throw a half year about that to have a little.
• 38:18
  Bit of fun. That's all this is we're having.
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  Fun. Hell yeah.
• 38:21
  We're going to have fun tomorrow.
• 38:22
  I like Mike Palm Super Tuesday. It is a big day.
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  All this big. We'll get a Super Wednesday.
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  We will. We will come right back at it
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  tomorrow. Same game times.
• 38:30
  Nothing changes as far as the lineup of these games gets
• 38:34
  underway in Cleveland, goes to Chicago, to New York and curtain
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  comes down. And which of the three of the
• 38:40
  four series, I guess I should include the Dodgers and the
• 38:43
  Reds? Which of these four series get
• 38:46
  to a game three? Because it doesn't happen a ton.
• 38:49
  Tigers guardians will. OK, that's it.
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  That's it. That's it.
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  No socks. Yanks.
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  Nope. Yanks cruise.
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  Cubs cruise. We shall see.
• 39:03
  I appreciate you being with us here today off the benches.
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• 39:15
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