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#282: Raw (2016) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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  movie? You taste like Curry.
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  Well, can I watch your least favorite scary movie?
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  The podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and
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  weekend. That's right.
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  And we covered Psycho Beach Party, which was.
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  It was a party, man. It was a party it.
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  Was a wild ass movie and if you want to listen to us talk about
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  a weird 60s parody slasher type thing about beach killings and
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  We didn't have that before, but we do.
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  Yeah, we do now. Yeah, we do.
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  Now do we have a portal? Yes, we have that.
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  We have, Yep, we have poll results.
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  So last week we talked about Return to Sleepaway Camp and we
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  wanted to ask everybody who had the better come back.
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  So this is a battle between movies here, Return to Sleepaway
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  Camp and the original Sleepaway Camp.
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  So in Return to Sleepaway Camp's corner, we have Alan, whose
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  catch phrase is your ass stinks. And then on the other corner, we
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  have Ricky with Eat Shit and Live.
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  So I mean, thanks everybody for doing this.
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  There's a lot of people that voted into this and there was a
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  fucking landslide. I knew it was going to be like
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  this. But hey, at least we have
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  somebody that voted for Alan here.
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  We have 5% for Alan. Your ass stinks versus Ricky's
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  95% and eat shit and Live. All right?
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  I mean, I think that's that's the right answer, man.
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  Ricky's insult has come back there as a legendary.
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  It's one of the best in horror. It absolutely is.
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  Yeah. So thanks everybody for
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  participating with that. Really appreciate it.
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  All right, so that's it for that.
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  I think that's got announcements all the way too.
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  So I think we can go on into raw all.
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  Right Raw premiered May 14th, 2016 at the Cannes Film
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  Festival, with a wide release in March of 2017.
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  We watched it on YouTube because there are limited watch options
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  as of today. You can stream it on Prime
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  Premium if you have that. Otherwise, you can have to rent
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  it from YouTube, Google Play, or Fandango at home.
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  This is one that I've seen on Netflix several times, and it's
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  actually where we watched it initially, but that's not where
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  it is right now. Written and directed by Julia
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  Ducorno, music by Jim Williams, special effects makeup by
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  Olivier Alfonso and Amelie Grosier.
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  Starring Gerons Marillier as Justine, Ella Rumph as Alexia,
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  and Robin Nat Ufala as Adrianne Travis.
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  Yes, time for our favorite game budget or bugtad.
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  Bugtad. Yes.
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  So it has a reported budget of €3.5 million, which at the time
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  was equivalent to about 3.8 million U.S. dollars.
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  Not bad. I got the US opening box office
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  amount because that's what was that's.
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  Surprised it's open in the US honestly.
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  It had a 24.8000 opening weekend and a worldwide gross of three
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  million. Wow.
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  IMDb score of 6.9 out of 10. Nice.
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  Yeah. Wow, that's actually good.
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  Yeah, I'm. I'm glad that it has a high
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  rating. I remember when this movie first
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  came out or whenever first to streaming, people were speaking
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  really highly of it. Yeah, and we watched it when it
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  came to streaming to you. Yeah, Back it was.
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  I think we watched it on one of our Scream screens.
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  It was one of those movies where we picked it because there's a
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  new movie. Yeah.
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  OK, I pull all the three movies from 2016 for comparison, and my
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  theme for this week is hungry, hungry, hungry.
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  It's it involves a little people munching in some way, shape or
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  form. Oh.
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  Cool. OK, good.
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  There's never a shortage of those movies out there.
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  So the first one is actually one we have covered on the show and
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  it's the Neon Demon. Oh yeah, yeah, definitely hung.
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  We definitely hung. We definitely a very, very long
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  lasting scene in my brain at the end.
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  Yeah, yeah. That released June 24th, 2016.
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  Budget of $7,000,000, worldwide gross of 3 million and an IMDb
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  score of 6.1 out of 10. Dang, that's got a good score
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  too. Yeah, second movie, The one that
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  you watched to break Talia's heart, trained to be sand.
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  Oh yeah, that's a heavy fucking movie.
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  That released actually the day before at the same Cannes Film
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  Festival as Raw. So they were traumatized.
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  Yeah, so it was just a rough weekend for everybody in Cannes
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  that. Came was heavy.
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  That had a budget of 10 billion, No 10 billion.
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  I I now realize it's gonna be a different currency.
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  Yeah. And they might have been.
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  We went to $10 billion. Were they real zombie?
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  No 10 billion won, OK, which is the equivalent of about
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  $7,000,000. That's still a pretty, that's a
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  high budget still, yeah. Well it's OK cuz it has a
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  worldwide gross 92 million. Damn I didn't realize it did
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  that good. Yeah, I think where they were
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  trying, where they did the remake, I think it sparked a lot
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  of interest in the original. Did they do a remake?
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  They've been talking about it, people have been saying.
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  Weird. OK.
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  IMDb score a 7.6 out of 10. Yeah, that.
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  I mean, that's, that's fair right there.
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  That is a great fucking movie. And the third movie also has
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  been covered on the show Terrifier.
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  Oh yeah, Terrifiers got some hungry and our our like to eat
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  people. Yeah, so that premiered at the
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  Telluride Horror Show Film Festival on October 15th, 2016.
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  Budget of $35,000, worldwide gross of $421,000.
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  We're only like 100,000 of that. Wait, which terrifier was this?
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  The first one. OK, Yeah. 5.5 out of 10 on IMDb.
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  I feel like that one's probably gone up since we're maybe down.
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  I don't know. That's that's a.
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  Divisive movie. I yeah, I would need to pull up
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  our episode from when we covered that a while back with actually
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  with David Howard Thornton. Yeah, yeah, that was a long time
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  ago. Yeah, OK, I got 3 tag lines.
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  OK, what are you hungry for? OK.
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  Sisters bound by love, twin by flesh.
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  Oh, that's good. Yeah, that was good.
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  She craves meat. OK.
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  It's it's like each word is capitalized.
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  So I feel like it needs to be said that.
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  Way craves meat. So I got a few fun facts.
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  This was shot actually at a school in Liege, Belgium in
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  because in part because there is like a more American style
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  campus there that I guess is not as common in France, at least
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  according to the director. I'm sorry, were they going for
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  an American type campus? I guess so.
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  Interesting. Yeah, and they speak French in
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  Liege, which I learned as I was trying to learn how to pronounce
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  the name of the city. So they do actually speak French
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  there. So interesting.
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  That was two months of pre production and two months of
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  actual shooting and it's the only time there was a body or I
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  don't know if this is the only time, but this was noted just in
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  some of the production facts that a body double was actually
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  used for the Brazilian wax scene for girls.
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  Mariel, Mariel Girls. Justine.
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  Yeah, Justine. OK.
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  And I don't know if that has something to do with the age of
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  the actress herself. How?
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  Old was. She, so the director actually
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  has known her since she was like 12 and she's only, she was only
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  21 at the time of the interview. So she just.
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  Julia Du Corneau did an interview with BFI, an online
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  website. And I just, I found a couple of
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  interesting things there. So her parents are actually
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  doctors, but she chose to do like veterinary medicine after
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  she was like scouting the university and seeing what she
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  called interesting scenes that she thought would be good for
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  the film. Didn't really elaborate on that.
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  But a big part of it was like animal symbolism, like being
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  crucial. Obviously it's not just like a
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  big part of Justine's character. But she said that, you know,
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  like, especially that scene where they're they're getting
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  the horse prepared for surgery and putting it to sleep.
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  She put a lot of emphasis on its eyes and just seeing like this
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  great big beast going down, being asleep, being so
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  vulnerable. And she said it's the type of
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  thing that her parents, being doctors, wouldn't really, like,
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  think of. They're just like, yeah,
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  obviously you have to do that for surgery, but she wanted to
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  have that powerful moment of it. There was a moving scene.
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  I'll admit that I don't like the way it made me.
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  Feel, yeah, it made me feel some type of way and it wasn't a
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  happy type of way. I do also have a quote from her.
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  So she there were 300 extras in that scene with like the rave,
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  like rookie party or whatever. Fuck man.
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  Yes. And she's so the interviewer
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  said you don't see club scenes on film portrayed very
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  authentically, but this had the sweat, noise and movement.
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  And she said this was very important to me.
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  I love directing to extras. The more extras, the happier I
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  am, especially for scenes like that.
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  We were 300 on set and I directed every extra almost
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  individually because everyone has something to do.
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  It's a sequence shot, so everyone has to be very precise.
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  It's choreographed. But before that, just to give
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  them an idea of what kind of party I wanted, I said two
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  things. The first was, listen, I'm the
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  kind of asshole who, when I watch a party scene in a movie,
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  I'm going to check, I'm going to check the full background to see
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  if any of the extras is pretending to dance on fake
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  music. If I spot that, I'm out.
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  My second thing was, I'm going to show you how to dance.
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  I don't want to see people dancing like they have a stick
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  stuck up somewhere. I'm not going to say I want to
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  see real dancing like everyone is here to fuck basically.
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  So I danced in front of my 300 extras.
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  I just like I hate seeing fake dancing movies.
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  So First off I don't want to see that.
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  Second off, I'm showing you how to dance.
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  I'm going to show you what kind of dancing I want to see.
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  That's funny, yeah. So those are just a couple like
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  little fun facts that I found just between like general
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  Internet sleuthing and some interviews.
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  And I thought those were all pretty interesting.
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  Yeah, pretty interesting. So I guess with that, we're
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  ready. Oh.
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  You got to do your thing. Yes, I got to do my thing.
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  So there were a couple of things that I wanted to pull.
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  Obviously, this is Pride Month, so we're not just doing
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  donations to the Trevor Project, but we also want to explore
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  movies that either have cast and crew that are members of the
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  LGBTQ community or that like the movie has some sort of theme,
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  plot point, something that's important to it.
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  And I've got a couple of things that I wanted to read about it.
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  1 is a review from Star Observer Australia, which is a it's a
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  record of Australian LGBTQ plus history and reviewer named
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  Lawrence Barber did a review of raw and had something had a read
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  on the relationship between Adrian and Justine that I
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  thought was really interesting. Is it bad that I never caught
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  that roommate's name? Always wrote him as roommate
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  because I never caught Adrian once.
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  He says it one time when they're like doing the crawling
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  underground to the rave. Yeah, the opening, yeah.
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  Yeah, OK. So, Lawrence says, horror is a
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  genre that tends to give little to queer audiences, perhaps in
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  part because film makers are often unwilling to juxtapose the
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  frequently transgressive nature of horror stories with the more
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  conventional images of queerness that tend to be present in
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  contemporary film making. The danger of queer desire tends
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  to be exploited in thrillers rather than horror, in films
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  like Xavier Dolan's Tom at the Farm or The Talented Mr. Ripley.
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  While Ross's main character is an LGBTI, it uses a character
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  uses a gay character in a specific and crucial way.
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  Justine's roommate, Adrian, is gay and gorgeous.
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  She complaints to him that she asked for a female roommate, and
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  he brushes it off, saying I'm not going to say the word if
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  slur is much of A muchness. But the awakening of Justine's
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  desire for flesh, a clear metaphor for her sexual
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  awakening, crosses that boundary and fusses and fuses with her
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  desire for pleasure. In this way, Raw tackles the
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  sometimes tricky subject of relationships between gay men
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  and ostensibly straight women in a fascinating, predatory way.
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  Justine devours A shirtless Adrian with her eyes as he plays
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  soccer, and then curiosity gets the best of both of them.
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  It fractures the relationship. Justine takes it as a sign of
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  interest, but Adrian becomes confused and frustrated.
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  Why did he have to withstand bullying only to have him
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  question his sexual identity now?
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  Each character ultimately feels in some way exploited by the
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  other, so I thought that was a really interesting because
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  Adrian's character is a huge part of this movie even if he is
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  not the main character, and it also kind of led me into wanting
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  to discuss the barrier barrier gaze trope.
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  Bury your gaze tropes. Oh, barrier gaze.
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  Yes. I thought you were saying
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  barrier gaze. Like, you know, barrier for.
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  Gaze or something? So that's just a little snippet
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  about it and it's got some statistics and it's gonna have
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  like some spoilers for The Last of Us.
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  Just I'm not like super interested in following it but.
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  It's an old game, This. This story's been out there for
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  a long time. So basically the the barrier gay
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  trope is that gay or lesbian characters tend to meet unhappy
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  endings and it can range from like heartbreak, insanity, loss,
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  depression, imprisonment. It could also be like having
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  like, homophobic attacks, committing suicide, you know,
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  suffering an illness, something like that because it happens a
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  lot more to female characters than male characters.
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  It's also often times called the dead lesbian syndrome.
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  And this is especially common in television shows.
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  And a group called Autostraddle examined 1779 scripted US
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  television series from 1976 to 2016.
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  Eleven percent of them featured lesbian or bisexual female
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  characters. Among those, 35% saw lesbian or
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  bisexual characters dead, while only 16% provided a happy ending
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  for them. Similarly, among all lesbian or
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  bisexual characters in ended series, 31% ended up dead and
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  only 10% received a happy ending.
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  And then there's a little bit down here.
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  Also go through similar things and other fictions such as video
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  games. According to Kotaku, LGBT LGBT
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  characters are largely defined by a pain that their straight
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  counterparts do not share, facing challenges that serve.
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  It's an in world analogy for anti LGBTQ bigotry.
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  While games like The Last of Us or Life is Strange forward LGBTQ
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  representation in the gaming sphere by featuring queer lead
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  characters, they still evolve victim to tragedy or death.
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  The Last of Us DLC features the lead character Ellie engaging in
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  a brief moment of queerness a lot long before her love
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  interest dies, and a game sequel features Ellie as an openly
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  queer woman yet continues to emotionally torture her.
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  That I understand that, but everybody dies in that fucking.
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  I mean, it's a horror game. Like the whole thing is like
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  humanity is going away. I don't mean to take away from
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  that, but I think that that's a strange comparison to make right
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  there with The Last of Us. I just, I thought it was really
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  interesting for this movie especially.
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  And I know this movie is a lot about sexual awakening.
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  And I know that there's like a really complex relationship
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  between Justine and Adrian and Justine's own sexual awakening
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  and Adrian having this moment with her, even though he's very
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  outwardly and openly gay, and it just creating a lot of
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  confusion, tension in their relationship, things like that.
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  But I do find it very interesting that out of all of
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  the characters that die in this movie, his was given the most
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  attention, the most weight, the biggest moment of it.
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  So I thought that this was like a moment to kind of discuss this
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  trope, and once you're aware of it, like it's kind of one of
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  those things that you start to really notice it when you're
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  like, watching TV or movies or reading books or playing games
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  or whatever. Yeah, I could see that.
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  OK, interesting. With that said, we are ready to
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  go on to our good, bad, ugly and absurd.
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  OK. All right, I'll kick it off.
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  Yes, All right, so. Kick it off.
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  Good stuff. I like this movie, man.
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  This movie is man, It has an impact on you.
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  It is an interesting take on a cannibalism movie and we've seen
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  a lot of those in our time on this show and just as people
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  that love horror movies and I like that it like shows a
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  different side of it. It's not like a slasher like
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  like somebody's out there just like killing people and eating
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  them type thing. Like there's like deepness to
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  it. Like what you're saying there.
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  It's kind of like a symbolic for her sexual awakening type thing
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  that's like, it's weirdly deep for a cannibalism.
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  Yeah. I just like she's also super
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  more like opportunistic with it, which I know like killing and
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  swashers. It's also like an opportunistic
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  thing. But I don't know, like the way
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  that she, like she explores it in this movie, like seeing her
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  transition from vegetarian to eating fucking raw chicken in a
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  fridge. It's so upsetting so.
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  I read online and I don't know if this was true or not because
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  it was just like a little snippet I saw randomly while I
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  was looking. But she wasn't actually eating
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  Grouch again, obviously, Yeah. I hope.
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  But it was like a sugar based product and she said.
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  The actress said that while it didn't put her off from eating
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  chicken for a while, it did make it really hard for her to eat
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  sweets for a while after that. That sounds like awesome
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  honestly if you want to get off sweets just like baked.
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  Chicken pretend. Yeah, pretend you're eating raw
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  chicken breast. Yeah, but that's the thing in
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  this movie, like, it has a lot of upsetting parts.
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  The veterinary school is a good setting for this too, because
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  it's super upsetting. Like, you know, doctors, like I
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  don't know, I, I just, I don't have the sympathy for humans
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  that I do for animals And like seeing them like that horse
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  scene that I didn't, I didn't enjoy that one bit.
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  Listen, some doctors don't even have sympathy for humans.
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  Well, you become they're sensitized to it.
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  They're in it because I have a gag complex.
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  That's true. I I just like you and even vets,
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  I'm sure you become distance attached to it too.
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  But any time that we take Talia to the vet, like we have to go
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  to an emergency vet for some of her appointments just because
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  they're the only one that provides the.
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  Treatment. Yeah, it's a hospital.
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  Yeah, and you see some really upsetting situations sometimes.
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  And, you know, you see the hospitals too.
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  But I, I don't know, I have more sympathy for the dogs and the
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  cats and the horses. Vets have like one of the
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  highest suicide rates of all professional.
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  Yeah. I think a big part of it with
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  the animals is that they don't have the autonomy to be able to
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  seek out that help themselves or exactly, exactly what's going on
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  with them. I know there's a reason and I
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  don't feel like a psycho for saying this, but you know, like
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  it's just like a weird thing, like, you know, it's true, but I
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  don't know, it just it added to the movie.
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  It added weight. I don't know, man.
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  This movie, like it, it does a lot of things really, really
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  well. It unsettles you.
• 19:57
  It tells a good story. Yeah, I, this movie, it, it had
• 20:02
  a lot of moments, but like, it was really easy for me
• 20:05
  personally, like as an individual viewer to like sit
• 20:08
  there and kind of really relate to and be able to put myself in
• 20:11
  that character shoes. Obviously I've been a vegetarian
• 20:14
  since I was 15 so it's over half my life now and I'm full of
• 20:18
  vegan now. Also, like sitting there
• 20:21
  thinking about like, Oh well, what if I was put in this
• 20:23
  situation? And also she is seen as a
• 20:27
  prodigy. I'm not that level.
• 20:29
  But I was always somebody that really excelled in schools.
• 20:31
  And it got to a point that like, my reputation tended to kind of
• 20:34
  precede me. And I put a lot of pressure on
• 20:36
  myself with that. And like, it it did.
• 20:40
  It did kind of have an effect on me socially too, I think,
• 20:44
  because I started putting so much of like pressure on that,
• 20:47
  so much of myself worth on that. Man, yeah, I did not know that
• 20:51
  wife. It's not.
• 20:54
  Me, but it was just really interesting watching this movie
• 20:59
  and I think the sister relationship I think is really
• 21:02
  beautiful and really real the way they talk to each other
• 21:05
  because they have these very tender loving moments that
• 21:07
  immediately get cutting with each other at the same time.
• 21:12
  And I think that's really nice. And each of them thinking that
• 21:16
  they're the black sheep or the weirdo of the family.
• 21:18
  I think that also tends to kind of ring true.
• 21:21
  I just, I don't know, I just, there's a lot about this movie
• 21:24
  that I really, I wouldn't call it a feel bad movie necessarily,
• 21:27
  but it's one that like you are a little bit down after watching
• 21:31
  it. Yeah, no, I mean, it doesn't
• 21:32
  depress me really. It doesn't like it's just it's
• 21:35
  an uncomfortable movie. Yeah, really all it is.
• 21:38
  Yeah. I wouldn't call it AI could feel
• 21:39
  bad movie though at all. And Guerrero Mariellier, I just
• 21:43
  wanted to say it one more time to make sure I can say it
• 21:45
  correctly. She does such a good job with,
• 21:47
  like, her physicality and her facial expressions.
• 21:51
  I think that scene of her, like, when she's drunk at the party
• 21:56
  and she's ready to, like, ready to mingle.
• 21:58
  Yeah, ready to mingle. And she's just sitting there
• 22:01
  like a little grumbling on the table like that, that lives in
• 22:05
  my head at random times. Like, it's just like, hey, by
• 22:08
  the way, Justine's here and she's ready to fuck some shit
• 22:11
  up. She becomes a creep.
• 22:13
  Yeah. Real, real fast.
• 22:16
  OK, I'm so bat stuff. Wait, was that your good?
• 22:21
  Yeah. So First off, the dog dies and
• 22:23
  don't ever do that. Don't do that, don't do that.
• 22:27
  Don't kill the dog. Don't give me a dog and kill it.
• 22:30
  Follow up to Scriptwriting Classic Save the cat.
• 22:34
  Save the cat too. Also save the dog.
• 22:37
  Yeah, don't do that. It it just, it bums me out.
• 22:41
  I hate that it happens. I get it.
• 22:42
  It is an emotional moment, it has impact.
• 22:45
  It kind of shows you these characters and it's important
• 22:47
  for the movie. But I just hate it.
• 22:49
  And it gives that contrast between Justine and Alexia.
• 22:53
  It I think it also shows her development, her descent into
• 22:57
  this, whatever you want to call it, because she's becoming
• 23:01
  desensitized to it too. Yeah.
• 23:04
  And then also like, there's really not a whole lot bad I
• 23:08
  could say about this movie, but like the way that people act too
• 23:12
  chill about how things happened in this movie, like the the
• 23:15
  students, everybody just kind of witnesses these crazy fucking
• 23:19
  things, but nobody reacts to it. Nothing happens.
• 23:22
  There's no repercussions. What's the fucking culture at
• 23:25
  this school? I don't understand.
• 23:27
  I I would not survive at this school.
• 23:30
  I think this school probably has many deaths like this shit like
• 23:34
  they're all desensitized system. Like we have a fucking like bite
• 23:38
  off in the middle of a courtyard.
• 23:40
  Nobody does shit. People are just like standing
• 23:42
  there watching and then they go on about their day.
• 23:44
  The dog death, they just shrugged that shit off.
• 23:47
  Just seen chomping the limp off of a dude.
• 23:51
  People are super chill about her roommate, super chill about it.
• 23:54
  She's like, oh, you're in the S&M, What the fuck is that?
• 23:58
  Like that I think is weird. That's not real.
• 24:02
  That's I just think that maybe, I don't know if that's the story
• 24:08
  you need to tell, if that's how they need to be for the story to
• 24:10
  progress, whatever, but it's not real.
• 24:13
  It just stands out to me how weirdly chill everybody is also.
• 24:17
  What is the timeline? It's like the whole semester I
• 24:21
  think. Is it though because it feel
• 24:24
  like because they refer to it as the rookie week?
• 24:29
  Well, I think it starts with the rookie week and then after the
• 24:31
  rookie week they have that picture taken.
• 24:34
  I think that's the conclusion of the week.
• 24:36
  No, because they're even like they're still forced to.
• 24:39
  Like they still have to deal with hazing rituals and stuff
• 24:42
  afterwards. I thought that that was like an
• 24:43
  entire first year thing. May I don't know.
• 24:46
  They're they're not super clear about.
• 24:47
  It honestly. But I mean, that's pretty much
• 24:50
  my bad stuff right there, OK? I don't know, I'm OK with the
• 24:53
  suspension of disbelief in movies.
• 24:55
  I've said that multiple times. I'm I'm in the world of this
• 24:58
  movie and I'm OK with it. I think more for me, the ending
• 25:02
  it, it has like an impact with its suddenness and like how it's
• 25:06
  just jobs on you. I think it's kind of stupid.
• 25:08
  On it. But it is, yeah.
• 25:09
  It's really like, that's almost too much suspension of disbelief
• 25:13
  for me, like. That's like, Oh yeah, here's
• 25:14
  some your mom. Yeah, update that shit right
• 25:17
  there when you think about that. I had a nipple there one time.
• 25:19
  Don't anymore. It's gone.
• 25:21
  Actual dialogue like he switches from French and says all.
• 25:24
  That sorry, I'm translating. Here, Yeah, yeah.
• 25:30
  So I think that ending like it has like the final shot impact
• 25:33
  and it leaves you a lot to think about, but also like when you
• 25:36
  think about it too much, you're like.
• 25:42
  It's weird, if it was an issue within the family and they're
• 25:46
  aware of it being an issue within the family, why would
• 25:49
  they not address it? I think they're trying to
• 25:52
  address it by keeping them all vegetarians.
• 25:54
  That's not really addressing it. That's trying to replace a
• 25:57
  behavior with something else. But they're not really using it
• 25:59
  as like a learning moment. Like don't eat people.
• 26:03
  Like, you know, we need to teach you guys this, I guess, but
• 26:05
  don't do that. I don't know, man, that's
• 26:09
  fucking weird. OK, OK, so ugly stuff.
• 26:13
  Justine kind of becomes a sex fest in this movie as it goes
• 26:16
  on. We get her like, First off, like
• 26:18
  when they're supposed to be like making out in that closet, she
• 26:22
  bites that dude's clip off and that's that's super fucked up.
• 26:27
  Everybody's really chill about it.
• 26:28
  But then we get to that part where she gets super fucked up
• 26:31
  at a party super drunk and she's starting to just like kind of
• 26:35
  chomp on people's necks and kind of like try to be like sexually
• 26:38
  seductive and shit like that to people that are not interested.
• 26:41
  And she's just it's, it's a problem.
• 26:45
  I think so in I'm saying this knowing that you would call this
• 26:49
  out if this was a man, if this was a male character.
• 26:51
  OK, I don't want you to take this as me rebuffing your point.
• 26:56
  But this was something that Dukorno like, addressed in that
• 27:01
  same interview saying like, you know, part of this is that she
• 27:06
  doesn't want female sexual awakening to be seen as
• 27:09
  something more shameful than male sectioning sexual
• 27:11
  awakening. And how, like, men are often,
• 27:14
  like, lauded for going out there when their sexual prowess and
• 27:17
  all that. Women are taught to feel guilty
• 27:20
  after the fact. I'm saying that fully
• 27:22
  acknowledging that we would call him a sex pest if it was Justin
• 27:26
  and not Justine, You know what I mean?
• 27:27
  Yeah, and that's the case here too.
• 27:30
  Like, there's nothing wrong with like, you know, sexual
• 27:32
  awakening, Like, you know, if you're, you know, like, go have
• 27:36
  fun, man. Just don't do it to people that
• 27:39
  aren't interested. Yeah.
• 27:40
  It's really all. It's that easy.
• 27:42
  Yeah. Yeah, I think definitely,
• 27:44
  especially the way like it feels especially like predatory
• 27:47
  towards Adrian because like. Yeah, that too, because she saw
• 27:50
  that he was like watching porn or something like that.
• 27:52
  Dude, it's already horny. Like he's, you know?
• 27:54
  Yeah, it like, like he's made it very well known he's gay.
• 27:59
  Like, he's like, I'm gay. You saw me getting a blowjob
• 28:02
  from a man. I've told you I'm gay.
• 28:06
  Like, we should be able to have a comfortable, platonic,
• 28:10
  friendly relationship. I've been your friend here.
• 28:12
  I've stood up for you. And it's just it, it feels like
• 28:16
  she is taking advantage of that closeness, like that emotional
• 28:19
  closeness, but also that physical proximity.
• 28:22
  Yeah. I mean, she's.
• 28:23
  Doing shit like walking out in a towel and like laying on the bed
• 28:25
  with him, you know what I mean? I feel like that.
• 28:29
  Come on, man. Let's not be a naive.
• 28:30
  That's definitely trying to like entice.
• 28:34
  I don't know so much about that. I just think it's it's more on
• 28:37
  the like emotional spectrum of things like it it just yeah,
• 28:42
  also, I'm going to put the ugly, the dog into the ugly here
• 28:47
  because they they know they're lying.
• 28:48
  They know that the dog's going to get put down because of this.
• 28:51
  The. Thing that kills me the most
• 28:52
  from that is Alex's text to her she's like mom is sad they put
• 28:57
  down the dog she's so fucking sad lol.
• 29:00
  Yeah. Caps Fuck off, Alex.
• 29:04
  What is your absolute? Oh yeah, they have that weird,
• 29:09
  like, super emotionally detached debate about monkey rape during
• 29:13
  lunch, which was really fucking weird.
• 29:16
  And they're like talking about a monkey's ability to even be
• 29:21
  raped. Yeah, it's.
• 29:23
  Such a weird fucking conversation to have and I don't
• 29:26
  understand was that is there a meaning for this in this movie?
• 29:30
  Does it apply to like a thing here?
• 29:32
  Yes. So part of this is, is like
• 29:34
  meant to show like Justine's like, like her social mores and
• 29:40
  like paying attention to how people are reacting to things
• 29:43
  that she's saying, but also kind of contrasting her.
• 29:45
  Like I'm here because we care about the the animals.
• 29:48
  That's why we're here, right? Like we should care about this.
• 29:50
  And it's meant to show like, where she's at morally at the
• 29:53
  beginning of this movie, OK. Yeah, yeah, it was.
• 29:56
  It was a really weird situation. Also pee time where we get the
• 30:01
  sisters, you know, doing their standing peeing and she pees all
• 30:04
  over herself accidentally. Listen, that that was bound to
• 30:07
  go back like kudos to Alexia's Kegels, because like the force
• 30:12
  that she's using. She brings.
• 30:13
  Like they're even at the end, you're going to run out of
• 30:17
  enough to forcefully push out that way.
• 30:19
  That's true. Yeah.
• 30:20
  You're always gonna end up with a trickle in your pants.
• 30:22
  These people strike me as the type of people that really don't
• 30:25
  mind having a little bit of pee down there.
• 30:26
  They're pee pants. I really do think that they are
• 30:28
  MCP pants. And the final thing is the bite
• 30:32
  fight that we have at the end, It's just, it's so fucking
• 30:37
  weird, man. Just so like in there on like a
• 30:39
  fucking bite fight where they're just biting chunks off each
• 30:41
  other. They.
• 30:42
  Each have each other's hands in their mouths and it makes me
• 30:45
  think of what we like, Scout. And so we are fighting and we
• 30:48
  try to separate them and they each have each other's like the
• 30:51
  haunches of their necks. Dude, yeah.
• 30:54
  We're like let let go 2 days ago. 2 days ago I I was here
• 30:58
  working in scout pounced on Zoe and slapped the shit off her and
• 31:03
  bites may have happened. What happened in this instant?
• 31:05
  And there was a big chunk of hair that came out and I just
• 31:08
  imagined Scout looked over as always, like you taste like
• 31:11
  shit. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:14
  I want to say the the absurd is like just how chill the whole
• 31:19
  family is about it. And like the way the way Alex
• 31:24
  and Justine talk about this after the fact, like it's so
• 31:28
  like Alex is so shocked. Yeah, she's.
• 31:31
  Really. No shock.
• 31:32
  She's down the clown as soon as she's like, oh, you eat people
• 31:34
  too? Cool, let's just be feel about
• 31:36
  it. Let's play video games and chat
• 31:38
  about how we taste. She is a psychopath for sure.
• 31:40
  I don't think she actually has. Like they're both psychopaths,
• 31:43
  yeah. I think this is it's like a
• 31:45
  latent thing for Justine and it's coming out now that she's
• 31:49
  being away from her family, being herself.
• 31:52
  She's finding herself and she's finding out that she's a
• 31:54
  psychopath who likes to eat people and raw chicken.
• 31:57
  Where are you rating this? This movie's really fucking
• 32:00
  good. I'm going to give it Nate.
• 32:02
  Nate Yeah. What?
• 32:04
  8. Yeah, what about you?
• 32:09
  Oh. Man, I, I love this movie.
• 32:13
  It's we've only watched it twice, but like it's just it has
• 32:17
  had a lasting impact on me. I think I want to give this A9.
• 32:22
  OK, cool. So 8 1/2 easy score right there
• 32:25
  8. .5 Nice. Nice.
• 32:28
  All right, let's talk about it. So we see somebody walking along
• 32:33
  like an isolated Rd. it. Looks like the road from Stay
• 32:39
  Alive where Jimmy Simpson dies. I can.
• 32:43
  Kind of see it that's trees though.
• 32:45
  And then we see a car driving and then we see the person's
• 32:48
  gone. But wait, they're just waiting
• 32:50
  for the car to pass somewhere they can jump out.
• 32:52
  Boom, causes a crash. And then we see the Walker walks
• 32:54
  over to the car. Yep.
• 32:56
  Then we cut to a family, they are at a deli of some.
• 33:00
  Sort like a restaurant. They're eating at a yeah, a
• 33:03
  restaurant, and they're ordering food.
• 33:05
  And Justine has ordered her food.
• 33:08
  She asked for no meat. She's a vegetarian.
• 33:10
  Here's the thing. Because the server is like no
• 33:13
  protein and justine's like no, I don't eat meat.
• 33:16
  Except the question shouldn't be no protein.
• 33:18
  The question should be, is your entire meal mashed potatoes?
• 33:22
  I'm not gonna judge her. I'm just saying the lack of
• 33:24
  protein is not the only issue. She just got a huge plate of
• 33:27
  mashed potatoes. Yeah, yeah, so.
• 33:31
  And somehow in said mashed potatoes, meat was found.
• 33:35
  She takes a bite of it and has to spit it out and mom goes.
• 33:38
  To complain that type of shit happens all the time.
• 33:40
  You see mashed potatoes, anything.
• 33:42
  You've seen me have to like, drop out a bite of food before
• 33:46
  because like a piece of chicken has gotten into it.
• 33:48
  Yeah, I just, I just wouldn't expect mashed potatoes, I guess.
• 33:51
  I I think especially like in a setting like that where it is
• 33:54
  like cafeteria like deli style. Oh, I didn't notice that.
• 33:57
  Pooping it out, that makes sense because like, think about like
• 33:59
  if we go to Qdoba or something, how many times has a piece of
• 34:01
  chicken made its way into my bowl?
• 34:03
  That's. True, that's true.
• 34:04
  So mom goes to complain. We see they are dropping her off
• 34:09
  for school. It's her first year at the
• 34:11
  school. Her sister also attends there.
• 34:13
  They tried calling her to come visit but she blows them off.
• 34:16
  Yeah, she's supposed to come pick up Justine.
• 34:18
  Yeah, but Justine just sends it saying it's fine, I'll go.
• 34:22
  Yeah. In her dorm, she wakes up to
• 34:25
  some loud noise happening, and her roommate is there.
• 34:28
  He is. He is a he.
• 34:30
  And she was like, I asked for a girl and he was like, I'm gay.
• 34:33
  To them it's the same difference.
• 34:36
  Then they get hazed. Yeah, it's just like a lot of
• 34:38
  chaos. I would fucking hate this.
• 34:40
  People come barging into a room, getting them all all the people
• 34:43
  out into the hallways and they take their mattresses and throw
• 34:46
  it out the window and. Then they force them all to go
• 34:49
  downstairs and they're like in the crawl space under the
• 34:51
  building and they're actually literally crawling.
• 34:54
  I think that they're, they're in a parking garage, they're
• 34:57
  they're having to crawl through the garage.
• 34:59
  They're like on dirt, though they're not on concrete.
• 35:02
  I couldn't tell. Yeah.
• 35:03
  But Adrian is trying to comfort Justine and he's like, it's OK.
• 35:06
  Like, just think of it as just a game.
• 35:08
  And you know what? It's more than just a game.
• 35:10
  It's a fucking rave. They are partying hard in there,
• 35:14
  there's people with boobies out, there's people with drinks going
• 35:17
  everywhere. Everybody is having a good time,
• 35:19
  except for Justine, but she decides that she's going to go
• 35:23
  find Alex. Yeah, that's her sister.
• 35:25
  Yeah, she's very drunk, but she's also very happy to see
• 35:28
  her. And she was like, are you doing
• 35:30
  OK? I'm worried that mom got to you
• 35:32
  without me around. So we get the impression that
• 35:35
  maybe like the way Mom was a little bit overbearing about the
• 35:38
  lunch, maybe that's just kind of her her baseline.
• 35:41
  Yeah, so she's like, hey, come with me, I got something to show
• 35:45
  you. So she sinks her to this like
• 35:47
  hidden area. And it's a place where they have
• 35:50
  these. They're like composites of like
• 35:52
  the. Yeah, the the newbies.
• 35:55
  Yeah, the the cohorts. Yeah.
• 35:57
  And it's everybody's introduced like their rush week or whatever
• 36:00
  you want to call this for this place like.
• 36:03
  Some of them are missing their heads.
• 36:05
  And she was like, why do some of these people where they be
• 36:07
  headed in the photos? And Alex says because they are
• 36:09
  traitors, they refused the initiation.
• 36:13
  Yeah, and then she goes and shows them a picture of mom and
• 36:16
  dad from the school too, because they also were part of this.
• 36:19
  And she's like, Yep, mom and dad, even them, they did this
• 36:21
  too. And there just seems like, well,
• 36:24
  I'm going to go to bed. And Alex is like, no, you can't
• 36:26
  go to bed before the veterans. Important to note it's I don't
• 36:30
  know if it's ever like explicitly said, but her age in
• 36:32
  this movie just seems age is meant to be 16.
• 36:35
  Like she is an actual yeah, she's an actual literal prodigy.
• 36:37
  So she's a lot younger than the rest.
• 36:39
  Of her, they never said that. I thought she was 18.
• 36:41
  Yeah, it's she's, Yeah. So this is meant to be like,
• 36:44
  it's not just that this is a new environment for her, it's that
• 36:47
  she's like socially, developmentally behind everybody
• 36:51
  else there. Interesting.
• 36:53
  OK, so she's back in her room. It's all trashed.
• 36:56
  That's that. Yeah, and she's asleep and she
• 36:58
  hears Adrian coming in with a guy and he was like my roommate
• 37:01
  to sleep. So this is where we get the
• 37:04
  horse scene. She is watching them do a whole
• 37:07
  procedure with the horse where they take it down to the ground,
• 37:09
  tranquilize it and then flip it upside down and put it on
• 37:12
  stretcher. Yeah, they have to like use a
• 37:14
  basically a forklift to get it on the stretcher and they
• 37:18
  intubate it. And watching this, like watching
• 37:20
  this horse fall asleep, it's just, it is like in touch with
• 37:23
  the heartstrings in case you're like.
• 37:25
  Seeing a dangled upside down almost went super fucking
• 37:28
  country. They're dangled.
• 37:31
  Most country you've ever sounded.
• 37:33
  Yeah. But like, yeah, it's really
• 37:36
  upsetting. Yeah.
• 37:38
  So we get some more hazing. There's like some marching and
• 37:40
  chants going on. And this is the part where
• 37:43
  they're getting their picture taken to put on the wall too,
• 37:46
  but they're all going to be covered with blood and they get
• 37:49
  it all dumped on them. One of the veterans says that
• 37:52
  the teachers will make you all great vets, but your elders will
• 37:55
  make you family. You are rookies until you hear
• 37:58
  the sound. Boo Boo.
• 38:04
  Until Matthew McConaughey comes over here and yells.
• 38:08
  So then they have to all eat a rabbit kidney and take a shot,
• 38:13
  hopefully of tequila. It looked like pee.
• 38:15
  It looked. Like pee?
• 38:17
  It was golden. If they're eating kidneys, pee,
• 38:20
  pee. Listen, tequila.
• 38:22
  Tequila has a golden variety. It does, but I don't trust these
• 38:25
  people. And she's like, oh, I can't.
• 38:27
  Well, listen, tequila, it's rough.
• 38:29
  But you know the difference between tequila and peewee.
• 38:31
  What they did like this? What they did the salt in the
• 38:33
  lime with the kidney. All right, here you go.
• 38:39
  Yeah. And Justine's like, oh, I can't
• 38:40
  do this. My whole family's veggie.
• 38:42
  And they're like, well, you have to do it as part of the
• 38:44
  initiation. And she's like, but I can't just
• 38:46
  ask my sister Alex. And the guy's like.
• 38:49
  Yeah, it's Alex. Oh fuck.
• 38:50
  So they call her over and I'm just like, Oh yeah, yeah, you
• 38:53
  got to do it. And she's just like one in her
• 38:55
  mouth. And then she goes over to
• 38:56
  Justine and she's like, she. Eats two of them.
• 38:58
  She's like dear, I love her so much I'll eat 2 kidneys.
• 39:01
  So she's like mom and dad did this too.
• 39:02
  Yeah man, fuck her. She was supposed to bail her
• 39:05
  sister out and she let her sister down.
• 39:07
  So, well, she's again, she just went over with her the night
• 39:11
  before. Like if you, I know, yeah,
• 39:13
  you're a traitor. I know, but it's still fucked
• 39:15
  up. She's vegetarian.
• 39:16
  She doesn't want to eat a kidney.
• 39:18
  She didn't want to do it. This feels realistic for the
• 39:21
  older sister being like come on dude don't fucking embarrass me.
• 39:23
  Yeah. So.
• 39:25
  They're at lunch. This is where they're having the
• 39:27
  monkey rape discussion. It's really weird.
• 39:31
  That's as much as it is. It also kind of shows like that,
• 39:34
  like when you're young and you have your morals and ideals,
• 39:38
  it's very easy to have a black and white stance on it.
• 39:40
  Like it's baby activism. Like this is this is what I
• 39:43
  believe. And yes, I believe there is no
• 39:45
  difference between a monkey being raped and a woman being
• 39:47
  raped. And her peers are like kind of
• 39:50
  like to differ a little bit with that.
• 39:53
  And I think that we we see this a lot like.
• 39:56
  I don't like that argument that there's like, I mean like
• 39:59
  they're like, what's the monkey going to do, go to therapy?
• 40:01
  Like then somebody like speaks of like monkeys have like.
• 40:05
  Yeah, they recognize themselves. And then you're like, and I'm
• 40:09
  mostly on Justine's side with this, don't get me wrong.
• 40:12
  I'm just saying like, if we're going to talk about like these,
• 40:14
  like there has to be more nuance and saying, yes, it's exactly
• 40:16
  the same. Like let's have, if we're going
• 40:18
  to have this discussion, let's have the full discussion.
• 40:20
  You know what I mean? And I think she's just very much
• 40:23
  drawing hard line, like this is exactly the same situation.
• 40:27
  OK, For the record, I want to say that I'm not cool with
• 40:32
  monkey rapes. OK, I'm putting that out there.
• 40:35
  All right. So Justine, she's getting real
• 40:40
  itchy. She's in her bed, she's itching
• 40:42
  all over the place, and then she lifts up her shirt and she's
• 40:44
  breaking out into a really fucking bad rash.
• 40:47
  Oh, but before that, we see Adrian and Justine in class
• 40:51
  together, and Adrian's trying to look at her paper and she's
• 40:53
  like. Oh yeah, yeah, a little goody,
• 40:56
  little goody good. The French just got me goody.
• 41:01
  Goody these shoes, Yeah, but she is the first one done by what
• 41:07
  appears to be a large margin. And she takes it up to the
• 41:09
  teacher who's like the genius and he like looks at the paper.
• 41:13
  He's like, oh, a mistake already.
• 41:16
  And she was like, oh, let me see.
• 41:16
  He goes Nope, too late. He like shows it to the bottom
• 41:19
  of a pile of paper. I.
• 41:20
  Don't like this guy. He he's mad that she's good at
• 41:22
  school. Yeah.
• 41:23
  He's like, you're too good. Don't.
• 41:24
  You're not going to get it Best me, though.
• 41:26
  You're not going to be too smart for me.
• 41:28
  We'll talk about it in a minute, but he, yeah, he really sucks.
• 41:32
  I hate this guy. And so yeah, she's got a really
• 41:35
  bad rash heart relate. If anybody wants to see pictures
• 41:38
  of the blisters under my fingernails from a couple months
• 41:41
  ago, that was a traumatic for me.
• 41:44
  And my fingernails only stopped recently being loose as a result
• 41:47
  of that. But I had like a rash up and
• 41:50
  down my arms and stomach and stuff as well from the same
• 41:53
  allergic reaction, not to me, but like the same allergic
• 41:55
  reaction as the one under my fingernails.
• 41:58
  So I get Justine's immediate reaction of like, well, I'm
• 42:00
  going to go see a campus Dr. and get this addressed.
• 42:04
  And I don't like this doctor because she's just taking
• 42:06
  tweezers and she's like, were you going to lift up this layer
• 42:09
  of skin or yeah, peel this. I don't think medically you're
• 42:13
  supposed to do that. I don't, I don't know.
• 42:15
  I don't know how the procedure is supposed to go.
• 42:17
  Maybe she just really likes peeling skin and she's like.
• 42:20
  There are people like that, maybe.
• 42:22
  She also eats. I'm starting like saving the
• 42:25
  skin layers for herself. I'm starting to suspect
• 42:27
  everybody at the school does that.
• 42:29
  She's like gold member like saves the skin flakes and I was
• 42:31
  like. I was gonna say actually I, I
• 42:33
  cuz I couldn't remember. I was like, oh, I feel like this
• 42:36
  is like a natural progression. She starts with her own skin and
• 42:38
  then they like evolves into like more eating people.
• 42:41
  But no she doesn't. And it's just like we just see
• 42:43
  the skin peeled. Yeah, and so the the doctor just
• 42:47
  thinks that it's a reaction from food poisoning.
• 42:49
  She kind of scoffs. It Justine going along with the
• 42:52
  hazing. Yeah.
• 42:53
  She tells like this weird story that doesn't really seem to fit
• 42:56
  the moment. Yeah.
• 42:58
  And she's. Yeah, she's talking about a
• 42:59
  patient she had. She was overweight.
• 43:01
  And none of the other doctors would do a blood draw on her,
• 43:03
  saying that it would be too hard to get to her vein.
• 43:05
  And she had no problem getting to this patient's vein.
• 43:08
  And she asked why the patient didn't report it.
• 43:11
  And she was like, because she just didn't want to stand out.
• 43:13
  She just wanted to blend in and be average.
• 43:15
  And she asked Justine, do you want to be average?
• 43:17
  Yeah, it's weird. So Jessie and she's stopped in
• 43:22
  the hall. She's told that there's a dress
• 43:24
  code for the party that's going on tonight and she has to buy
• 43:26
  buy it. I think I have to wear it to
• 43:29
  class or to class nightclub wear.
• 43:32
  Yeah. And when Justine is not wearing
• 43:34
  it, the elder makes her wear a diaper over her.
• 43:37
  That's right. So after class, she goes to
• 43:40
  Alex, who gives her clothes, and Justine's like, this isn't me.
• 43:42
  And she's like, yes, that's good, That's the point.
• 43:45
  And Justine's like, I just don't know.
• 43:47
  And Alice is like, all right, you're annoying me.
• 43:48
  Get out of my room. Get the fuck out of here.
• 43:50
  Yeah, so she goes and gets her mattress from the mattress pile.
• 43:53
  I can't believe the amount of people that still haven't
• 43:56
  collected their mattress. I'm so worried about what if it
• 43:59
  rains? Mildew.
• 44:01
  It's Fox. Gross.
• 44:03
  It's Fox. And this is when she drags her
• 44:06
  mattress all the way back up to her room to open the door.
• 44:09
  Finding her roommate getting a blowjob.
• 44:12
  Yeah. And he just, like, looks at her
• 44:14
  and he's like, do you mind it? And she does a weird thing.
• 44:16
  She closes the door, but she just stands at the door and just
• 44:19
  kind of overhears the moaning. And she just, like, eavesdrops
• 44:22
  on the whole thing. Yeah.
• 44:23
  It's kind of strange. So they're down in the cafeteria
• 44:26
  getting food. She passes on the burger, but
• 44:28
  then when she thinks somebody's looking, she takes it and puts
• 44:30
  it in her pocket because she's wearing a white coat.
• 44:35
  It's immediately obvious, and the person, the cashier won't
• 44:42
  let her pay for it until she shows it.
• 44:44
  And Adrian's like, why are you why?
• 44:46
  Like, are you harder for cash? She goes, no, I just didn't want
• 44:48
  anybody to know I'm eating a burger.
• 44:49
  And he's like, why? And she goes, I don't really
• 44:52
  know. And he goes, well, we're gonna
• 44:53
  celebrate. So he takes her on a gas station
• 44:56
  date for some gas station shawarma.
• 44:59
  Yeah, it's I, I hate that image of the burger in the pocket and
• 45:04
  having a bury in that shit. It's so greasy.
• 45:07
  I fucking hate it. That's probably more upsetting
• 45:09
  to me than the eating the people in this movie seeing the burger
• 45:11
  in the pocket. Don't like?
• 45:13
  It So they are driving by, they're going to go get some
• 45:17
  food and they drive by the wreck that we saw from the opening of
• 45:22
  the movie and Justine is super curious and peeps and she's
• 45:26
  rubbernecking. Yeah, she is.
• 45:28
  So they're at the gas station, they have some food, and they're
• 45:31
  just sitting out in front of it eating and making rude comments
• 45:34
  about truckers. And then one of the truckers
• 45:37
  seems to have overheard the Boston that they doing on him
• 45:41
  and he goes over there to fuck with them.
• 45:43
  Yeah, yeah. So they go back to their dorm.
• 45:49
  That night she wakes him up because she's running around in
• 45:51
  the fridge and he's like, what are you doing?
• 45:53
  She goes eating breakfast. He's like a BBQ because she's
• 45:56
  got like chicken in her hands. Because no, I'm just, I'm
• 45:58
  looking for milk. For the cereal.
• 46:00
  Cereal. Yeah.
• 46:01
  Which I overheard somebody at work yesterday and I really
• 46:04
  loved this opinion. And they're like, I don't eat
• 46:06
  milk in my cereal. And the person they were talking
• 46:09
  to was like, why not? And she was like, I don't need
• 46:10
  my drinks having things floating in it.
• 46:13
  You know what? I like that opinion cuz I'm also
• 46:15
  a dry cereal person. I am too, yeah.
• 46:19
  But that's not why. But I like that take on it.
• 46:21
  I agree that's a good take. And then yeah he used and then
• 46:24
  we just see her just like noshing on a fucking raw piece
• 46:27
  of chicken. So gross.
• 46:30
  Man, you just had an allergic reaction to the rabbit kidney
• 46:35
  and now you're gonna have salmonella.
• 46:36
  See, that's the thing. That's another thing that I
• 46:38
  would thought about this movie, which I could maybe move to the
• 46:41
  bad is like, why does she not break out again?
• 46:43
  Yeah, like she's eating a lot of raw bad things.
• 46:47
  Not good for you. Maybe it's.
• 46:48
  Just like the initial exposure, like like when you get like a
• 46:53
  vaccine and you have a little bit of a reaction to it and it
• 46:56
  makes your body like prepared for future exposure.
• 47:00
  That's a mighty hand waving we doing right there.
• 47:03
  Just whatever, whatever. So all right, here's an asshole
• 47:06
  professor. Again, Yeah.
• 47:07
  So he says that she cheated and she's like, no, I didn't.
• 47:11
  He goes. Then your friend cheated and she
• 47:13
  goes no, he didn't. And he goes, listen, I don't
• 47:15
  like you, you're too smart and you make all the other students
• 47:19
  upset because they're not as smart as you.
• 47:20
  I would rather have a dummy come through class and try really
• 47:23
  hard then have you come in and just be good.
• 47:25
  You're not. Going to be a good doctor.
• 47:27
  And she goes, he cheated, and then she goes and throws up a
• 47:30
  lot of hair. Who did she?
• 47:32
  Was she ratting out on her roommate?
• 47:34
  Yeah, that's what I thought. But we don't see there's no.
• 47:36
  Ramification for. It Yeah, What I thought that
• 47:39
  that was gonna play into a thing.
• 47:40
  It just doesn't. I thought, yeah, I thought that
• 47:42
  was gonna like add some tension to the relationship, but no.
• 47:45
  No, that I don't understand that.
• 47:47
  That was weird. But yeah, so she goes and she
• 47:50
  throws up a lot of hair, and I'm assuming it's her own hair.
• 47:52
  Like while she was sitting there nervous, she was like chewing on
• 47:54
  it. Oh that makes sense.
• 47:55
  I was wondering why she was coughing up a hairball here.
• 47:57
  And then she gets out of the stall and somebody else is in
• 48:01
  there, and it's like, it'll come up easier with two fingers.
• 48:04
  I was like, damn. Yeah, because we've got bulimia
• 48:07
  here. And later Alex is going to make
• 48:08
  a comment about nobody likes the anorexic look like they're very
• 48:11
  blast, say, about eating disorders.
• 48:13
  Yeah, yeah. And Speaking of, she's going
• 48:16
  over to hang out with Alex. Just kind of just decompressed
• 48:19
  from all this stuff. This is where we get the piece.
• 48:21
  Yeah, they get drunk on the roof.
• 48:22
  I like the drunk the drunken rooftop sister bonding moment
• 48:26
  before they start peeing their pants.
• 48:28
  This is. It's a scene that always sends
• 48:30
  out to me whenever I think of this movie.
• 48:31
  I always think of like just the two of them peeing on the roof
• 48:34
  together. I think of what comes next
• 48:36
  because Justine asks if she can stay over.
• 48:38
  So she stays in Alex's room and she's she's snooping around in
• 48:41
  Alex's cabinet. She finds the same tube
• 48:44
  appointment that she was given for her allergic reaction so
• 48:49
  interesting. And then Alex comes up and she
• 48:52
  starts tweezing her eyebrows and she looks at her underarms,
• 48:55
  which are hairy. And she's like, you know, at
• 48:58
  your age, I'd already given myself my first Brazilian wax,
• 49:00
  which now knowing cuz it's Alex's second year, I think now
• 49:04
  knowing that there's such a big age difference, it doesn't seem
• 49:08
  cuz like that line before, if you think there's only a one
• 49:10
  year difference, it's like, OK, well calm down Alex.
• 49:12
  But like. Yeah, definitely.
• 49:14
  Yeah. So she she offers to do it for
• 49:16
  her and we get that. Also, here's a question.
• 49:22
  The dog. The dog gets to stay.
• 49:24
  Did they deliver the dog to Alex?
• 49:26
  Why was it not with Justine? If it stayed at the house, why
• 49:29
  is it not with mom? Because it's mom's dog.
• 49:32
  I have no clue. The dog just, I think it just
• 49:35
  needed to be here for the story that needed to eat the finger.
• 49:39
  Yeah. Really.
• 49:40
  But the dog is just kind of hanging in the dorm room.
• 49:43
  Yeah, it's cool. It definitely because it was at
• 49:45
  the party too. Yeah, it was at the party with
• 49:47
  Alex. It was a party dog.
• 49:48
  But she brought it. But we.
• 49:52
  Don't see Quickie walking with her when she's like walking with
• 49:54
  her suitcase. Schrodinger's Dog.
• 49:59
  The dog just, like, vanished. It's weird.
• 50:01
  Yeah, OK. Whatever the The thought
• 50:05
  experiment. Part 2.
• 50:06
  Schrodinger's Cat. Part 2.
• 50:08
  Schrodinger's Dog. Yeah, OK, so she's doing the
• 50:13
  Brazilian wax and it's not going super chill.
• 50:17
  It's really hurting Justine. Yes, wax is hurt.
• 50:20
  Yeah, it seems like it would. And then Alex gets a big glob on
• 50:25
  her end. This time it's not coming off.
• 50:27
  So she's like, uh oh. She tries to RIP it off and then
• 50:32
  she's like, OK, I can't do it. So she goes and gets some
• 50:34
  scissors. She.
• 50:35
  But she doesn't just get normal scissors.
• 50:37
  These are like massive. These are like Grandma's scent
• 50:42
  one scissors. She's probably using these for
• 50:45
  her cannibalism. Probably.
• 50:47
  Honestly. It cuts through bones super
• 50:49
  easily. And Justine is like no you are
• 50:52
  shaking, you're not getting anywhere near me.
• 50:54
  And she Alex is like it's fine. And Justine says no, it's my
• 50:59
  pussy and kicks her. And because of the way Justine
• 51:02
  had her hands positioned, it causes the scissors to cut
• 51:05
  through the middle of her right middle finger.
• 51:08
  Yep. Finger right off.
• 51:09
  And she passes out and Justine calls the emergency services and
• 51:16
  it's gonna be 15 minutes. So she's got to get the finger
• 51:19
  on ice and no ice, no ice. And then she's just looking at
• 51:23
  that finger. And then she's just a little,
• 51:26
  well, she drinks some of the blood first.
• 51:27
  Yeah. And then she does a little and
• 51:30
  it's good. So she just eats a lot more and
• 51:33
  Alex wakes up and sees. Yep.
• 51:36
  So we're at the hospital. I like this weird little moment
• 51:40
  with her looking at this old dude.
• 51:41
  He does the tooth trick. He does like he falls with her
• 51:45
  with the teeth and they go, I'm popping him out and he's like,
• 51:48
  all right. He's really proud of himself for
• 51:50
  making her uncomfortable. I feel like this is like,
• 51:53
  sometimes in movies you get trailer moments.
• 51:55
  That's a trailer moment and they're like, throw it in the
• 51:57
  trailer. It's it's super weird.
• 52:00
  And then so Alex is wheeled out and she.
• 52:04
  She went, she's going to get a prosthetic because they don't
• 52:07
  hide the finger. And then I was like, what about
• 52:09
  therapy? And the doctor's like, there's
• 52:10
  no nerve damage. She goes, yeah, but what about
• 52:12
  therapy? And he goes, there's no nerve
• 52:14
  damage, there's no therapy. And then Alex is like, Oh my
• 52:17
  God, let's just go. And she tries to stand up and
• 52:19
  her mom goes, no, you're disabled.
• 52:22
  And then Justine is like, leave her alone.
• 52:24
  And she runs out. I mean, they were also like, so
• 52:26
  like, what happened to the finger?
• 52:27
  And then, like, speaks up before Justine can say anything, he's
• 52:30
  like, oh, the dog ate it. Yeah.
• 52:31
  So they're like, oh, OK. So their dad comes out and talks
• 52:36
  to Jesse is like, you need to apologize to your mom.
• 52:39
  She's like, I don't really want to.
• 52:40
  And he's like, and then she says what will happen to quick and
• 52:43
  he's like, well, once a dog has had a taste of human flesh, it
• 52:45
  has to be put down. That's.
• 52:47
  So fucked up this dog got fucked.
• 52:49
  Yeah, so Alex and Justine talk after their parents leave.
• 52:56
  She's like, come with me. And so we're going to walk over
• 52:59
  to the roof and then they get down in a ditch and Justine was
• 53:04
  like, what are we doing? And then as soon as the car
• 53:06
  passes, Alex jumps out and it causes a crash and she gets up
• 53:11
  and she goes over and just starts munching on the dude.
• 53:14
  The dude's still alive too. Yeah.
• 53:16
  Like it's really like, oh fuck this.
• 53:19
  And Justine is freaked out. And Alex is like, no, you need
• 53:22
  to learn. I'm trying to teach you.
• 53:25
  So Adrian asks for help donning his PPE.
• 53:30
  And as she's doing it, she just kind of like, Justine just kind
• 53:33
  of like, stares at the back of his neck.
• 53:35
  Yeah. And a very like, yeah.
• 53:37
  Then we get like, a small montage of like, somewhere
• 53:40
  hazing happening and Justine staring at Adrian some more.
• 53:44
  And then she has a Nosebleed. Yeah.
• 53:48
  And then like we also saw they were doing some like dissecting
• 53:53
  dogs and during this whole like gold montage, like we cut to one
• 53:58
  of the dogs and like the tarp is pulled off and I'm wondering,
• 54:01
  did she eat that dog? Yeah, I don't.
• 54:03
  That's what it's meaning. I think she ate the dog.
• 54:05
  I don't know if it was that or if it was meant to be like some
• 54:08
  more like animal symbolism or. I don't know.
• 54:10
  Yeah. Yeah, it was.
• 54:11
  Yeah. Either way, weird.
• 54:13
  So we see her, she's in her room and she's put on Alex's dress
• 54:17
  again and she's listening to the song called Seduction 101, which
• 54:20
  is just like a nasty sex song. I call it this sweaty muzak
• 54:25
  right here cuz she's like she's jiving to it.
• 54:27
  She's popping back and forth. She, like, is feeling herself
• 54:30
  making out. With the mirror.
• 54:31
  That mirror, dude, the way they do this shot, like the camera is
• 54:34
  behind some glass. So we're getting the mirrors
• 54:38
  POV. The mirror feels assaulted,
• 54:40
  yeah. Yeah, and she's like, she's
• 54:43
  thinking about Adrian, I'm pretty sure.
• 54:45
  And then she goes into the room which she's next door and he's
• 54:50
  in there playing video games with Alex and they are becoming
• 54:53
  chummy together. I think Alex is clocking
• 54:56
  Justine's interest in Adrian here.
• 54:57
  Yeah. And Adrian is leaving.
• 54:59
  He's going to a Med school party.
• 55:01
  And he said those are crazy. Like they if they have somebody
• 55:05
  come in, they just throw up and go take care of him.
• 55:07
  And he tells Alex it's a good thing that they couldn't find
• 55:09
  your finger because it would have been someone on backwards.
• 55:11
  Yeah. And so Alex and Justine are now
• 55:16
  playing the game and they kind of talk a little bit.
• 55:17
  And she was like, hands off. And she's like, isn't he gay?
• 55:20
  And then she goes, how did I taste?
• 55:23
  And it just seems that you taste like great.
• 55:25
  It's so weird. Yeah, yeah.
• 55:27
  And Alex is like, teasing Justine, saying that she's like,
• 55:30
  I know you, you won't be able to stay away.
• 55:32
  You won't be able to keep this up.
• 55:34
  And Justine is like, no, I'm not gonna keep doing this.
• 55:36
  I thought, OK, so then I she has like a nightmare and then at the
• 55:41
  end of it she ends up wandering down the hall and there's like a
• 55:44
  party going on in one of the rooms in there.
• 55:46
  Everybody's covered in paint and as soon as she walks in she is
• 55:49
  covered head to toe in blue paint and thrown into a bathroom
• 55:51
  with a guy with yellow covered in yellow paint.
• 55:55
  I like this. Right?
• 55:55
  All right, so go in there and see until we all make green
• 55:58
  paint. And they start making out, like
• 56:02
  they kind of actually start to get into it.
• 56:03
  And he seems to sense that she's a little bit nervous and he's
• 56:07
  like, we'll go slow. And he goes fine.
• 56:08
  And so she starts getting into it.
• 56:11
  We hear a scream from outside the bathroom and he runs out and
• 56:14
  he goes. She's psycho and he hurt his lip
• 56:19
  is pretty fucked up. She just chomps like his lower
• 56:22
  lip off. Yeah, and she goes to the shower
• 56:25
  in her room and she like. A chunk of it in her teeth.
• 56:29
  Yeah. And then reek.
• 56:32
  God, man. So Adrian talks to her
• 56:35
  afterwards and he's like trying to figure her out.
• 56:38
  He's like, so we're into S&M and she's like, why are you going to
• 56:42
  kiss me? He goes, no, she goes, then you
• 56:44
  have nothing to worry about. And she walks away and he's
• 56:46
  about to do, you know, some single man action.
• 56:50
  He's watching gay porn, man. He's he's talking on himself,
• 56:53
  he's, he's feeling it. And she walks back into the room
• 56:57
  and she's just kind of like, throws herself on him.
• 57:00
  And they kind of go for it and like the whole time they're
• 57:03
  fucking he like she was trying to bite him and he's like
• 57:07
  pushing her off It's. He keeps like pushing her to
• 57:12
  stop and eventually she like bites herself which causes her
• 57:16
  to finish and that's that. So in class, sometime after Alex
• 57:24
  text Adrian to tell Justine to check her phone and it's just
• 57:29
  that message you referenced earlier.
• 57:31
  Put dog down. Mom's so sad lol.
• 57:34
  God fuck you Alex. And what Justine takes away from
• 57:38
  this is that Alex has your phone number and he, like, just
• 57:43
  doesn't really say anything. She goes, what, you're not going
• 57:44
  to talk to me after deflowering me?
• 57:46
  He's like, this is a mistake, shouldn't have done that.
• 57:50
  He. Embarrasses her in front of
• 57:52
  everybody. Yeah, I'm fucking gay.
• 57:53
  I'm not going to like I've. I've been gay my whole life.
• 57:57
  I'm not going to be not gay because of you.
• 57:59
  She's like, I didn't go through 20 years of this, of shit just
• 58:03
  to be with you. Yeah.
• 58:05
  So Justine is, she's a little grim.
• 58:08
  She's a little party gremlin. She's just, like, hunched over
• 58:11
  on the table, like, yeah. And she goes to who are serving
• 58:14
  drinks. She's like, I want a shot.
• 58:16
  And he's like, well, we don't have any shot glasses.
• 58:17
  How's the silicone? She's like, good.
• 58:19
  And so he pours a shot worth in there.
• 58:21
  She goes with more and like, ends up being full always.
• 58:23
  She's like, I don't want to have to come back.
• 58:26
  And so she's really, really fucking drunk.
• 58:27
  And she's like you said, she's being a sex fest at the party.
• 58:30
  And Alex Pfizer is like, hey, come with me.
• 58:34
  And they walk into a morgue. The next day she wakes up late
• 58:38
  for class and she shows up in the night before outfit, which
• 58:41
  is everybody's doing it at some point in college, but you know,
• 58:45
  it happens. She's super hungover and
• 58:48
  everybody in class is just like staring at her.
• 58:50
  And she does. She clearly doesn't remember a
• 58:53
  goddamn thing in after class ager and pulls her to the side.
• 58:56
  And he was like, hey, come with me.
• 58:57
  And he shows her a video of the morgue.
• 59:01
  Yeah, it's a big crowd watching. Somebody's saying like, dude,
• 59:03
  don't record this and it's Alex has taken a body out of one of
• 59:09
  the the morgue refrigerator trace the.
• 59:11
  Drawers. The drawer, yeah, and is like
• 59:14
  dangling the hand down at Justine, who's on all fours on
• 59:17
  the ground and is like. Chomping at it, yeah.
• 59:20
  Oh, it's so fucking weird. And then this like makes her
• 59:23
  livid so she goes running out. Yeah.
• 59:26
  And she's like, you just let you just let her do that.
• 59:28
  And he's like just trying. He's like I'm mad at you but
• 59:32
  also I care about you and I want you to know This is why people
• 59:35
  are treating you like this. Also, what the fuck?
• 59:37
  Yeah, like we're not going to talk about that.
• 59:41
  Yeah, and so she finds Alex, who's on the rooftop, and they
• 59:46
  fight. And Alex takes a big old butt
• 59:48
  about out of Justine's cheek and says, well, you taste like shit.
• 59:52
  And they keep fighting and they keep fighting each other.
• 59:54
  And eventually some other students, like, come in and try
• 59:57
  and separate them. But then Justine throws her
• 59:59
  backpack at her. And they then she goes back to
• 1:00:01
  her room. And then they bandage each
• 1:00:04
  other. And Justine, as she leaves
• 1:00:08
  Alex's room, almost locks her in but doesn't.
• 1:00:13
  And I wonder if she thinks about this moment after the fact
• 1:00:17
  because the next morning we hear air horns.
• 1:00:20
  It's the end of their room. Matthew McConaughey has arrived
• 1:00:23
  on campus. There's music playing, and the
• 1:00:27
  rookies are all gathering. I spoiler, when I was looking
• 1:00:30
  for reviews for this, somebody was like, I just didn't
• 1:00:33
  understand why all those kids were just, like, assembling at
• 1:00:36
  the end. And I was like, it's the end of
• 1:00:37
  the rookie stuff. Yeah, they said it at the
• 1:00:39
  beginning. When you hear the sound, you're
• 1:00:41
  no longer rookies. Yeah.
• 1:00:42
  Justine wakes up and she's in Adrian's bed and she tries to
• 1:00:46
  wake him up and he's not moving and she pulls down the blanket
• 1:00:50
  and finds his like, thigh is chewed down to the bone and
• 1:00:55
  she's trying to shake him awake. And like, blood just kind of
• 1:00:59
  oozes out of his mouth and it's very clear he's dead.
• 1:01:01
  And when she looks on his back, he's got like a puncture wind
• 1:01:03
  through the middle of his back. It's from a ski pole.
• 1:01:06
  And she's like freaking out. She's like, why don't you wake
• 1:01:09
  me up? Why don't you fight back?
• 1:01:10
  Why don't you, Why don't you stop me?
• 1:01:12
  And then she looks over and sees Just or Alex in their kitchen
• 1:01:16
  area. Just like comatose from the
• 1:01:18
  amount of like human flesh she's eaten.
• 1:01:21
  Yeah, she doesn't look good. She is bloody and daze and
• 1:01:25
  Justine gets her cleaned up and we cut to sometime later.
• 1:01:29
  We can tell it's later because Justine has her.
• 1:01:33
  Her face is healed, but it is scarred.
• 1:01:35
  Yeah, and also Alex is in prison.
• 1:01:37
  Like she's meeting her family in prison on the other side of like
• 1:01:40
  the little. Yeah.
• 1:01:42
  Talk wall. I don't know what you call that.
• 1:01:44
  Talk. Well, yeah.
• 1:01:45
  Talk. Well, yeah, that's what I
• 1:01:46
  thought, yeah. Yeah, that's the technical term
• 1:01:48
  for it. And yeah, they kind of like,
• 1:01:51
  say, their highs and bys and then it cuts back to just
• 1:01:54
  seeing, I'm assuming this is like summer break or something.
• 1:01:58
  I'm assuming she dropped out. Or might might have dropped out.
• 1:02:01
  Or was kicked out. Or kicked.
• 1:02:03
  Out if that professor has any pool there, he was like, yes, I
• 1:02:05
  knew it got rid of the cannibal genius.
• 1:02:08
  I, I think after all, like seeing all this like stuff, he's
• 1:02:10
  like, I was wrong about you. He was belonging.
• 1:02:14
  I feel like he would have been down with it after that, but
• 1:02:16
  whatever. She's home with her parents.
• 1:02:19
  They're eating dinner and mom is really, really insistent that
• 1:02:22
  she finishes her veggie. She's got to eat all of them
• 1:02:24
  before she can leave the table. And mom goes and leaves and then
• 1:02:27
  the dad's like what he's like. Don't.
• 1:02:29
  It's not your. Fault.
• 1:02:30
  Yeah he's like don't take it personally and just seems like
• 1:02:32
  it's kind of hard not to just listen.
• 1:02:35
  When Alex was born she came with us everywhere.
• 1:02:38
  Everybody just always loved her. She had a magnetism about her.
• 1:02:41
  She was amazing. She was perfect.
• 1:02:44
  We never should have had you. He doesn't say that part, but
• 1:02:47
  he's. Usually like we did it the right
• 1:02:49
  the first time, we didn't. Write the first time should have
• 1:02:50
  stopped. I think it's he's like, you
• 1:02:55
  know, so we just kind of got used to never saying no.
• 1:02:57
  And we created a little nightmare because when she
• 1:03:01
  started showing the same cravings as your mother, we
• 1:03:04
  didn't we didn't know how to teach her to control that shit.
• 1:03:07
  And just seems like, wait, what? And she goes, yeah, no, your mom
• 1:03:09
  was pretty tough. She was like you.
• 1:03:11
  She was a creeper. She was a clinger, except she
• 1:03:13
  chose somebody who was straight. So it worked out a little better
• 1:03:15
  for her and she figured out her ways to handle things, and I'm
• 1:03:19
  sure you will too. And this is where he's saying
• 1:03:21
  this as he's unbuttoning his shirt, which is a weird vibe.
• 1:03:24
  It's the reverse of Jacob taking his shirt off in front of
• 1:03:29
  Charlie. Yeah, yeah, you.
• 1:03:31
  Put your clothes back on, son. Put your clothes back on, Dad.
• 1:03:35
  And he just, like, opens his shirt and reveals that I guess
• 1:03:37
  Mom's way of dealing has just been chomping on that.
• 1:03:40
  Just taking some nibbles out of him.
• 1:03:42
  He's got scars all over. And then it's just like, yeah,
• 1:03:46
  look at that shit. That's that's what we are left
• 1:03:49
  with in this movie, OK. I just think this movie is
• 1:03:55
  amazing. It's beautifully shot.
• 1:03:57
  I just think it's neat. It's really disturbing, which is
• 1:04:00
  what you want in a horror movie. Makes you think, which is what I
• 1:04:04
  want sometimes in a horror movie.
• 1:04:06
  So I'm gonna keep it at A9. Yeah, keep in mind at an 8.
• 1:04:08
  OK. I like this movie.
• 1:04:10
  A Why? It's really powerful.
• 1:04:11
  It's really well done. I, you know, I, I hope people
• 1:04:16
  that are, I know there's a lot of people that are afraid to,
• 1:04:18
  are not afraid. They just don't really like to
• 1:04:20
  watch foreign movies because they don't like subtitles.
• 1:04:23
  But like, if that's a barrier for you, man, like try this
• 1:04:25
  movie out because like, it might make you feel like you might
• 1:04:29
  have been missing out on some good movies.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah. And we watch everything with
• 1:04:34
  subtitles anyway just because it, it kind of, it helps with
• 1:04:37
  like some auditory processing stuff.
• 1:04:40
  Yeah. So it's not.
• 1:04:44
  I'm desensitized to it anyway. I am too.
• 1:04:47
  I just, I don't remember like especially like from the last
• 1:04:50
  Drive in any time like a international movie would be
• 1:04:53
  shown, people be like, oh, it's fucking subtitled.
• 1:04:55
  I can't fucking stand that. Like, Nah, man, it's fine.
• 1:04:59
  It's good. Honestly, like seriously, if
• 1:05:02
  you're a little bit nervous about it, start watching
• 1:05:04
  subtitles with just like English shows, Yeah, like your, your
• 1:05:09
  predominant language. And that way the subtitles match
• 1:05:12
  and you just get used to having them on screen and you, you stop
• 1:05:15
  feeling like you're focused on reading the subtitles.
• 1:05:17
  It really just looks. Kind of second nature, yeah,
• 1:05:19
  like I when were at. 1st and it makes I.
• 1:05:20
  Started doing that. I thought for sure it was gonna
• 1:05:22
  be an invasive thing, having text over the image the entire
• 1:05:25
  time, but no, it becomes like natural after a certain point.
• 1:05:28
  Yeah, and it it makes it, it definitely helps kind of like
• 1:05:32
  take down some of the barrier to entry for foreign language
• 1:05:35
  films. And it does make it easier to
• 1:05:37
  process like the action going on on the screen, the tone at the
• 1:05:40
  same time is like reading the dialogue.
• 1:05:42
  And it's to the point now where like, I tend to prefer that over
• 1:05:45
  like dub stuff, anime notwithstanding, because of the
• 1:05:49
  cartoon. Anyway, the.
• 1:05:51
  My only problem with like animes and dubs is like you can't do a
• 1:05:55
  lot of times subtitles because a lot of times the subtitles match
• 1:05:58
  the actual Subs so it doesn't match the English dub.
• 1:06:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:06:02
  But yeah, the only problem I have with subtitled Movies Now
• 1:06:08
  is when we're trying to cover them on the show, because it's a
• 1:06:10
  lot too. It's hard make sure that we're
• 1:06:12
  touching sentences as they're being said cuz.
• 1:06:15
  You have to look down and like, see what you're writing.
• 1:06:16
  You have to deal with other words.
• 1:06:18
  Yeah. But it's, yeah, it's definitely
• 1:06:22
  if you want to do something outside your comfort zone, if
• 1:06:25
  that's the thing that's outside of your comfort zone, would
• 1:06:27
  recommend that. It opens you up to a lot of
• 1:06:30
  different movies out there. Amazing movies, yes.
• 1:06:33
  Who did you relate to? Earlier to that gas station
• 1:06:40
  truck driver, like, because he overheard them fucking talking
• 1:06:44
  about him and trashing him. Just like, I'm going to fuck
• 1:06:46
  with him. Like, you know what?
• 1:06:48
  I'll make them think maybe that is what I am.
• 1:06:50
  And then at the end he's like, by the way, I'm fucking with
• 1:06:52
  you. Yeah.
• 1:06:52
  So like, you know, yeah, that was fun.
• 1:06:56
  Unfortunately, I feel like I'm gonna relate to.
• 1:06:59
  Christine yeah. I mean, that was obvious from
• 1:07:01
  the get. Go Yeah, Based on all of the
• 1:07:03
  things that I've said up to this point, what do you, what do we
• 1:07:08
  think Talia thought of this? Tahia was fucking having a good
• 1:07:11
  time. She was over there playing with
• 1:07:13
  her toys. She was noshing on her shark.
• 1:07:16
  She's she did get scared though, because when it started getting
• 1:07:19
  to stuff with Quickie she insisted on getting between us.
• 1:07:22
  That's true, yeah. She had to be between US and she
• 1:07:25
  got she was very cuddly and she'd let me cover her eyes at
• 1:07:29
  the scary parts. Yeah, there was some sad moments
• 1:07:31
  for her here. So I think overall she would
• 1:07:34
  give it. She'd also give it an 8 because
• 1:07:36
  she would appreciate the punnery of it.
• 1:07:38
  Yeah, I think so too. Yeah.
• 1:07:40
  Who's Zoe's ultimate warrior? Come on, let's be real.
• 1:07:44
  It's Alex. Is it Alex?
• 1:07:47
  It's Alex Is gonna do whatever she can to get the food.
• 1:07:50
  So it's Justine. No, Alex is not apologetic about
• 1:07:54
  it. I don't think Justine is either.
• 1:07:57
  She's at first. Alex probably was at first, too,
• 1:08:01
  honestly. But that's not what we see in
• 1:08:02
  this movie. I guess that's true, yeah.
• 1:08:04
  If I were to give it to Alex, I would give it because of her,
• 1:08:07
  like ability to hunt. She hunts the people with the
• 1:08:10
  car trick. Also the eating until being
• 1:08:14
  stuffed, eating past the point of being.
• 1:08:16
  Comfortable. If so, it could eat to the point
• 1:08:18
  of being comatose. I think she would get herself
• 1:08:20
  there. Absolutely.
• 1:08:21
  That's. Her goal?
• 1:08:23
  So what is your dream sequel for this?
• 1:08:26
  Well man, this is a hard one. This is 1 I wouldn't want a
• 1:08:28
  sequel to, but if I got it all right, then I got it.
• 1:08:34
  Does Justine have a child of her own?
• 1:08:37
  I don't know, man, do we go that far?
• 1:08:40
  I think we do. So we do a big time skip, yes.
• 1:08:43
  How about it's whenever Alex is being released from prison,
• 1:08:47
  she's there to pick her up? So her sister she's reformed,
• 1:08:52
  maybe she's having the little Justine.
• 1:08:56
  Justine has followed her father's advice and tried to
• 1:08:59
  find ways to work around the the situation and she's been able to
• 1:09:05
  consistently so eat flesh while living a semi normal life.
• 1:09:09
  And maybe Alex is, like, a good person in this movie who's
• 1:09:15
  trying to not succumb to the temptation, even though her
• 1:09:18
  family is trying to, you know, let her know, hey, it's OK, you
• 1:09:22
  can do it. Like, we can do this.
• 1:09:24
  There's a way to do it. But she doesn't want to do that
• 1:09:26
  because she's had treatment. She's reformed.
• 1:09:29
  She feels better about herself. She's not breaking out in rashes
• 1:09:32
  all the time. And yeah, I guess like the
• 1:09:35
  conflict can go from there. OK, Have you got anything to?
• 1:09:38
  Happen. No.
• 1:09:39
  My brain was going in a completely opposite direction,
• 1:09:41
  but I didn't wanna disrupt your flow.
• 1:09:42
  Well. What was?
• 1:09:43
  Yours. Then my brain was merging our
• 1:09:47
  ideas together. So Justine has a kid, and Alex
• 1:09:51
  does come to live with her after she gets out of prison, but
• 1:09:53
  she's not actually reformed and has said she's trying to corrupt
• 1:09:56
  Justine's kids, just trying to show them how to be little
• 1:09:59
  hunters. And they're not like adults yet,
• 1:10:01
  so they're just confused more than anything.
• 1:10:03
  OK, you could do that too. I personally like the idea of
• 1:10:06
  like Alex's character changing. OK, but.
• 1:10:10
  Yeah, you know, whatever, there's options we have.
• 1:10:12
  Options. We have options we can do.
• 1:10:13
  This, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:10:14
  If we do it right, we could have like a completely different cut.
• 1:10:17
  Like do the same movie and have a different cut, yeah.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, just like Halloween six. Yeah.
• 1:10:22
  OK, cool. All right, I guess it's time for
• 1:10:27
  reviews. Yes, I I have a user review and
• 1:10:33
  I actually like I had gotten a review from Reddit too, because
• 1:10:35
  I can't remember how you felt about this.
• 1:10:37
  I had a really nice review from Reddit, OK, where somebody just
• 1:10:40
  really loved it, but I found a low score on IMDb.
• 1:10:44
  OK. And this one was one that was
• 1:10:46
  hard because like a lot of them were just like the scripts
• 1:10:52
  there. What is the point of this?
• 1:10:53
  And that like kind of missing like the symbolism of
• 1:10:55
  everything. And like, I get it if you if you
• 1:10:58
  don't want to watch like kind of an artsy movie because it's kind
• 1:11:00
  of an artsy movie. Yeah, I wouldn't really call it
• 1:11:02
  super artsy, honestly, but yeah, maybe.
• 1:11:06
  I'm not saying it's art house. I wouldn't think it's artsy.
• 1:11:08
  I. Wouldn't even call this like
• 1:11:10
  elevated horror I think. I just think it's like well done
• 1:11:12
  horror. OK but this is definitely not a
• 1:11:15
  feel good movie. Acting was good.
• 1:11:17
  One out of 10. Acting was good, revealing the
• 1:11:21
  story was good as well. But if I'm the film release
• 1:11:23
  approver, I would not let the movie release.
• 1:11:26
  Terrorism and war is already in full swing and all over the
• 1:11:29
  world to kill humans. We don't need cannibals.
• 1:11:31
  In my opinion. Few scenes will make you feel
• 1:11:34
  nauseous. If you've suffered enough in
• 1:11:36
  life, you will take light. To be frank, I wouldn't
• 1:11:39
  recommend this movie. It just gives me nausea.
• 1:11:40
  Otherwise it won't entertain you in any sense.
• 1:11:43
  So it achieved what it set out to do basically.
• 1:11:46
  Yeah, OK. Like, you know what, this movie
• 1:11:49
  isn't going to be for everybody. If if you get grossed out and if
• 1:11:53
  it's like too much for you to handle this subject, that's
• 1:11:56
  definitely uncomfortable for people that are like, as
• 1:12:00
  desensitized as me and Jesse here.
• 1:12:03
  It's yeah. It was even heavy for us at
• 1:12:05
  times. Yeah.
• 1:12:06
  Yeah, it's it's a hard watch. I can definitely agree with
• 1:12:11
  that. But I don't think that's like a
• 1:12:13
  knock on the movie. I think that that means the
• 1:12:16
  movie did what it wanted to do. It means that it was pretty
• 1:12:18
  good. Yeah, I think.
• 1:12:20
  I think so. I like and I get it.
• 1:12:23
  It's not an easy movie to sit through.
• 1:12:25
  It has to be the type of thing that you would be interested in,
• 1:12:29
  yeah. So yeah.
• 1:12:31
  All right. Do we have listener reviews?
• 1:12:33
  No, we don't. No.
• 1:12:36
  Look, yeah, I get it. If y'all haven't seen it, it is
• 1:12:39
  what it is. Yeah, and it's not super easy to
• 1:12:41
  watch right now because it's like rental only.
• 1:12:43
  And also, I'm just gonna tell you this, if you're renting it
• 1:12:45
  on YouTube, there's a don't try, don't try and go through your
• 1:12:48
  TV's YouTube app. If you have a smart TV, which I
• 1:12:51
  assume most people do at this point cuz that seems to be all
• 1:12:53
  they sell, you're going to want to go through your phone and
• 1:12:58
  then rent it that way and then broadcast it to the TV.
• 1:13:03
  Because if you try and just rent it through the TV, it's going to
• 1:13:06
  tell you you have to buy it. It was really stupid.
• 1:13:09
  I don't understand why you 2 had to do a workaround.
• 1:13:13
  Why not offer a rental option on the TV?
• 1:13:15
  Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. And listen, in 2025, we're not
• 1:13:19
  paying to own digital media that there's no guarantee won't be
• 1:13:23
  taking. Yeah.
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  You don't own that shit that you just own the ability to watch it
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  whenever they want you to. Yeah, it's really fucking.
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  And that's like when I was trying to rewatch old seasons of
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  America's Next Top Model. I bought that seasons because
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  that was the only way, but I just kind of look at them as
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  long term rentals. Yeah, no, that's.
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  How I see it? I've lost stuff.
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  There's stuff, I think Sony deleted a lot of shit off of
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  PlayStation. Like if you bought some shit on
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  there, they deleted a bunch of it and it's just gone.
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  Yeah, bullshit. It's really fucking stupid.
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  That's why physical media is supreme.
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  Yes, everybody buy physical media.
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  We're glad that we can talk about a French cannibalism kind
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  of coming of age metaphor for sexual awakening.
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  That's right, everybody. And the implications on just
• 1:15:55
  various facets of life. Anyway, I don't want to ramble
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  too much next week. Next week we have another weird
• 1:16:02
  ass movie, a fucking fantastic movie that I am so happy that we
• 1:16:06
  are going to be talking about. It's going to be their Patreon
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  voted episode. Hellraiser 2, Hellbound, or I
• 1:16:12
  guess I should say Hellbound Hellraiser 2.
• 1:16:14
  That's the actual title. And guess what, this one you can
• 1:16:17
  watch for free a lot of places. Yay, it's on 2B, Pluto TV,
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  Philo, and Plex. Or if you have an AMC Plus
• 1:16:24
  subscription, a Sling TV premium subscription, a Prime Premium
• 1:16:27
  subscription, a YouTube TV premium subscription.
• 1:16:29
  I'm gonna say all YouTube TV subscriptions are premium
• 1:16:32
  subscriptions. That shit is not cheap.
• 1:16:34
  It's basically AMC. Three of those are other ones,
• 1:16:36
  but yeah, it's also on Shutter. And you can rent it through red
• 1:16:40
  Box, Google Play or Fandango at home.
• 1:16:43
  So those are all the watch options in contrast to this
• 1:16:46
  movie much more watchable. Please do yourself a favor, get
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  acquainted with the movie It's. Good.
• 1:16:51
  I like it. It's fun.
• 1:16:53
  It's. I just think it's neat.
• 1:16:55
  It's my favorite Hellraiser. To be fair, I've only seen three
• 1:16:58
  of them, but out of the three I've seen, it's my favorite.
• 1:17:01
  So yeah, be on the lookout for that.
• 1:17:03
  We'll see you guys with that one next week.
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  Yep, until then. Bye.
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  my pronunciation out and now I can't read it.
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  Garcin Oh no, I can't read either of my names right now.
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  Hold on. Give me a pause, yeah.