Latest / Digital Soulspace - Musings Of The Metaphysical, Magical, And Nonsensical / Meeting Your Spiritual Mentors - My Experience With Abraham Hicks
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- 0:34SPEAKER_00: And hey everybody, welcome, welcome to today's episode of the Digital Soul Space Podcast, uh, musings of the metaphysical, magical, and nonsensical, or something like that.
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: Anyway, uh, today we are actually broadcasting live on digitalsoulspace.org.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: We are an independent metaphysical online community.
- 1:00SPEAKER_00: And so I thought I'd record this live, and at the same time, I would use it for our podcast.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: So I'd like to welcome everybody that's viewing right now, and thank you for being here.
- 1:14SPEAKER_00: And I will open everything up for questions.
- 1:17SPEAKER_00: Um, actually, anytime during I'm I'm taping this, please feel free to ask any questions.
- 1:23SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to create this because I have a really interesting story.
- 1:28SPEAKER_00: I don't know how it happens or why it happens, but I have had the opportunity to meet so many spiritual figures and leaders and or or what do you want to call them.
- 1:42SPEAKER_00: Um, I've been to talks uh with Eckert Tolley, I've been to talks with the Dalai Lama, even.
- 1:49SPEAKER_00: I've been to see Abraham Hicks and actually interacted and met with them and and a few others that I can't uh put my finger on, but I've really had an opportunity to see a lot of amazing people speak and a lot of spiritual leaders speak.
- 2:07SPEAKER_00: So my adventure with Abraham Hicks probably began around uh actually, really uh many, many, many years ago when a co-worker of mine mentioned the secret, and she said, Oh, did you watch Oprah?
- 2:23SPEAKER_00: There's a secret, it's about getting a parking space when you want it.
- 2:27SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What?
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: I had no idea that she was talking about law of attraction, and so I kind of just you know brushed it off, and I thought it was kind of funny.
- 2:36SPEAKER_00: And then years later, when I was a member of an online spiritual community that wasn't digital social space, I heard about a group of beings called Abraham, and I was kind of fascinated by it.
- 2:53SPEAKER_00: Um, I was like, Well, who's Abraham?
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: And they said, Oh, it's actually a collective of beings, it's not one person, but they call themselves Abraham, and this lady channels them.
- 3:05SPEAKER_00: So I was like really fascinated with it, and um I I but I didn't really know a whole lot about it.
- 3:13SPEAKER_00: I asked questions and some people told me about it, and I was like, Oh, that's really cool.
- 3:18SPEAKER_00: And then one day, my very amazing and good friend Um Kim Gaskins, who's also a member of Digital SoulSpace, sent me this uh motivational thing on YouTube video to listen to what's called a morning rampage, and it was all about um today being a good day, and I'm gonna start this day with the correct, you know, vibrational awareness, and and it was really special and very cool.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: And I was like, oh my god, I love this.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: And then I realized it was from Abraham, and I was like, no way, it's kind of weird because it was like it was calling me, right?
- 4:00SPEAKER_00: Like I was being introduced to it little by little.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: And I think that's one of the very interesting things about law of attraction is that not everybody's ready to start utilizing it or observing it.
- 4:12SPEAKER_00: I think you have to reach a certain part of your life when you're ready and you don't force it, if that makes sense.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: But anyway, so Kim um introduced me to that morning rampage video, and it was very, very cool.
- 4:29SPEAKER_00: And then not too long afterwards, Kim was asking me, you know, about it, and we were talking about it.
- 4:39SPEAKER_00: And um, my other friend Willie had also said, Have you heard of Abraham?
- 4:43SPEAKER_00: So it's kind of weird because I had people reaching out to me.
- 4:47SPEAKER_00: So Kim and I are in our car, or in my car rather, uh during our lunch break at work, and Kim is asking me about Abraham, or we're talking about it, or them, and a bald eagle flew over our car that we were in.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, super not a common occurrence for the part of town that we live in, although there are some known bald eagles inhabiting that area.
- 5:15SPEAKER_00: You just, you know, you don't see them a lot in Miami, but they're around.
- 5:19SPEAKER_00: They're and uh many people are surprised that we even have bald eagles, but you usually see them if you do around you know the Florida Everglades.
- 5:28SPEAKER_00: So anyway, we were driving around this bald eagle flies over, and that's significant because about a year later, after listening to many, many uh YouTube videos of Abraham, I made the decision to go ahead and sign up for one of their seminars, and Kim came with me.
- 5:52SPEAKER_00: Now, let me just give you a brief explanation of what Abraham likes to talk about, and that is Abraham loves talking about law of attraction.
- 6:03SPEAKER_00: And what is law of attraction?
- 6:05SPEAKER_00: It's super simple.
- 6:07SPEAKER_00: Law of attraction is basically the premise that there's an energy field that flows through everything you can see, hear, smell, taste, and touch, as Abraham will put it.
- 6:21SPEAKER_00: And that energy field is responsive to the way you are feeling or vibrating, and the way you are feeling or vibrating will be attracted to you.
- 6:33SPEAKER_00: You will attract like circumstances, like people experiences will attract to you that are the same frequency as you're vibrating.
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: Super simple concept.
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: You know, instead of opposites attract, it's um it's quite it's it's the same attracts.
- 6:53SPEAKER_00: Um, and if you read the book The Art of Allowing, which was written being channeled by Abraham, it would it will say that which is like is attracted unto itself, so it's kind of it's almost biblical sounding, but anyway, so that's the law of attraction.
- 7:14SPEAKER_00: It's not anything new, it's been around for thousands of years, and before Abraham uh was the popular um figure to talk about it, there was Neville Goddard, there was also Seth used to talk about uh law of attraction and spirituality.
- 7:31SPEAKER_00: Uh Seth was also a channeled entity that Abraham has claimed is the same exact consciousness that um Seth uh was.
- 7:43SPEAKER_00: And if you're familiar with um Jane Roberts, who used to channel Seth, Abraham said they are one and the same.
- 7:51SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of interesting.
- 7:53SPEAKER_00: But I digress.
- 7:54SPEAKER_00: So that's what law of attraction is.
- 7:57SPEAKER_00: Uh it's been around for thousands of years.
- 7:59SPEAKER_00: Neville Goddard almost sounds identical to Abraham.
- 8:03SPEAKER_00: If you uh look up his uh YouTube videos, um, he was around during the 1950s and 60s and quite popular.
- 8:12SPEAKER_00: And I actually enjoyed listening to him because it's almost like Abraham on steroids.
- 8:17SPEAKER_00: But so there's this lady named Esther Hicks that channels Abraham and talks about law of attraction.
- 8:24SPEAKER_00: So in March of 2018, Kim and I signed up to go see Abraham in Orlando, Florida.
- 8:32SPEAKER_00: And the interesting thing was that before, about a week before we were even set to go there, I went into Kim's office because we still work together, and I said to her, I'm super nervous.
- 8:44SPEAKER_00: And she's like, Why aren't you excited?
- 8:46SPEAKER_00: I go, I'm excited, but I'm super nervous because I'm gonna talk to them.
- 8:52SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go up on stage and I'm gonna talk to them and I'm gonna be picked.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: And she goes, How do you know you're gonna be picked to talk to Abraham?
- 9:03SPEAKER_00: And I go, I have no idea.
- 9:05SPEAKER_00: I just have this gut feeling, I'm gonna be picked.
- 9:07SPEAKER_00: And she goes, So why are you nervous about it?
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: I go, I don't know what to ask them.
- 9:12SPEAKER_00: And so, just so you know, the format of these seminars is basically they pick, and I use the word they intentionally, they pick someone out of the audience based on their light, and you can go up there and just talk about anything.
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: There's no, and you can stay up there for quite some time.
- 9:34SPEAKER_00: In fact, the day I was there, there was some gentleman that were almost refused to get off the stage and was talking to them for 45 minutes and really annoyed everybody that was listening.
- 9:47SPEAKER_00: But anyway, um, so I said this to Kim and I said I was nervous, and Kim was like, Don't be nervous, and I go, I just don't know what to ask.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: And so Kim was like, Okay, so you know, we'll we'll figure it out when we get there.
- 10:05SPEAKER_00: So a week later, we're in Orlando, super excited, and law of attraction is working off the chain, so to speak.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: We are meeting people in the lobby that are also there to see Abraham, and then when we go up to our room, they're staying across from our room.
- 10:27SPEAKER_00: It was like all these synchronicities were going like crazy.
- 10:31SPEAKER_00: And then the morning of the seminar, a bald eagle flies.
- 10:37SPEAKER_00: I'm seriously, when I'm I'm not exaggerating, within inches of our hotel window, not once, but like three times.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: It kept circling, and and I'm like, Kim, it's so amazing because it was a bald eagle that we saw when we were first talking about Abraham together.
- 10:59SPEAKER_00: So synchronicities were going absolutely crazy.
- 11:04SPEAKER_00: So we get into the um the uh what would you call it?
- 11:09SPEAKER_00: The exposition, you know, the um, oh what is it called?
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Like the ballroom in hotels where they have you know conference room, where they have shows and stuff like that.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: And it's just a bunch of chairs, it's probably about enough room for about, I think, 1200 to 1500 people, because there's lots of very long rows of chairs.
- 11:29SPEAKER_00: So I would say there are at least 1,500 and a stage and a video screen, two video screens, and they're projecting stuff on there, and there's a lot of people sitting down, and people start talking to each other right away.
- 11:45SPEAKER_00: People are very friendly at these things, and they were talking to each other right away and talking about you know who Abraham was.
- 11:53SPEAKER_00: And I was very new at all of this, right?
- 11:57SPEAKER_00: I was extremely new.
- 11:59SPEAKER_00: Uh, I didn't even really know the format of how it was going to be presented at the time.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: And it was then that a lady explained to me, no, she picks you um from your light.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: You know, she'll ask if you have a question, but then she'll pick you.
- 12:15SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh wow, this is kind of fascinating.
- 12:19SPEAKER_00: Then they started playing this music called the joy song, and everyone in the audience is like, joy, joy, joy, and they're waving their hands and everything, and that kind of freaked me out.
- 12:31SPEAKER_00: And uh I'm really like, uh, if anything seems like cult-like, I it triggers me.
- 12:39SPEAKER_00: And so I start to freak out a little bit because I was like, okay, this is just you know, this is like the type of thing you see on a documentary where you know everyone's like on this sort of like high, like if they've smoked something, and they're kind of acting like you know, like it's a cult.
- 13:00SPEAKER_00: And so that was kind of triggering for me.
- 13:02SPEAKER_00: And I was a little freaked out.
- 13:04SPEAKER_00: And Kim, my friend, is like, oh my god, it's the joy song, it's the joy song.
- 13:10SPEAKER_00: Now she knew about this song, and it's just a song that says, Joy is the key.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: And in other words, if you're happy, you're gonna attract happiness to you.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: So that was a little turnoff for me.
- 13:23SPEAKER_00: You know, I have to confess.
- 13:24SPEAKER_00: I was like, okay, this is a little culty.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: But then Esther comes out and she's very down to earth and she's very grounded and chipper, and she doesn't talk a lot.
- 13:35SPEAKER_00: She basically says, you know, welcome to everybody.
- 13:38SPEAKER_00: You know, we have materials out if you want to collect some, and you can subscribe to us, you know, just general stuff.
- 13:46SPEAKER_00: And she goes, Okay, let's call Abraham.
- 13:48SPEAKER_00: So she goes into this meditative state, and she just relax and she starts to nod her head a lot.
- 13:56SPEAKER_00: She does this thing where she nods her head and her eyes are closed.
- 14:01SPEAKER_00: And um and then she talks very slowly and deliberately, and she does this every single time.
- 14:08SPEAKER_00: And again, it was kind of gimmicky for me at first because I was like, Okay, because she does this at the beginning, she goes, uh she basically she's nodding her head, and if you can see me right now on camera, you know, she a very slow nodding, and then she starts off by saying it is good to come together for the purposes of co-creation, is it not?
- 14:38SPEAKER_00: And she almost says it like she's having difficulty getting her words out, right?
- 14:43SPEAKER_00: And that's why I kind of thought it was gimmicky because I was like, Well, she does this how many times?
- 14:47SPEAKER_00: Why is it difficult, right?
- 14:49SPEAKER_00: But as soon as she says that, she's Abraham, and she's like, and so now what?
- 14:57SPEAKER_00: She basically goes, so now what?
- 14:59SPEAKER_00: What are we?
- 15:00SPEAKER_00: She goes, Are you rested?
- 15:01SPEAKER_00: Are we all feeling good?
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: And you know, the whole audience is engaged, and she'll she might talk a little bit in the beginning about you know that they're excited that we have come together and that we're here and that we're all gonna grow and learn together, and it's kind of neat.
- 15:19SPEAKER_00: And in fact, talking about it right now, I kind of get a little goosebumps because that part is like really cool because you start to feel the energy in the room shift, and you kind of feel this energy of for lack of a better term, this group of beings or collective consciousness.
- 15:37SPEAKER_00: So you're in there and basically looks out into the audience and she goes, So who who has a question?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: Who would like to speak?
- 15:50SPEAKER_00: And people raise their hands, and she just glances out along the rows of people, and she points in the general direction, and she goes, Stand if you think it's you, and a ton of people will stand up, and she goes, You right there, and then they'll go, they'll be like me.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: She goes, Yes, and they'll come up on stage and they'll put their back to the audience in a chair, and that chair is called the hot seat.
- 16:21SPEAKER_00: I should put an echo for that or something.
- 16:23SPEAKER_00: The hot seat.
- 16:24SPEAKER_00: Oh, I don't have my echo machine working, anyway.
- 16:28SPEAKER_00: Well, that was embarrassing.
- 16:30SPEAKER_00: Um let me see.
- 16:33SPEAKER_00: Oh, here we go.
- 16:34SPEAKER_00: The hot seat.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: Okay, it's called the hot seat, and um, this is where you're sitting with your back to the audience facing Abraham, and there's a camera pointed on your face, and Esther comes or Abraham comes and gets the microphone and puts it right up to your mouth, like really close.
- 16:54SPEAKER_00: And remember, Esther now at this point is in you know her thing.
- 17:00SPEAKER_00: So people go um people go up there and they talk about how they've uh they've manifested, they talk about their current journey, they ask for advice.
- 17:13SPEAKER_00: Some of them ask, say that they're manifesting right and left, but they can't find love, and and what are they doing wrong?
- 17:21SPEAKER_00: Um, other people are like, I think I have a gift for doing something, and and is it for real?
- 17:29SPEAKER_00: And so it's really, really interesting to see everybody come up and and share these conversations that have absolutely no rules really associated with them.
- 17:42SPEAKER_00: In fact, on one of the YouTube videos that I watched, a gentleman went up there and said that he feels most connected when he's taking drugs.
- 17:51SPEAKER_00: And that, is that okay?
- 17:54SPEAKER_00: And so I was like, whoa, you know, and she basically, or they basically said, Yeah, of course it's okay.
- 18:01SPEAKER_00: And then they said, but be aware that there's a sort of vibrational recoil that while you may be happy while you're taking these drugs and you may feel like you're in your what they call the vortex, and I'll explain that in a second.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: That while you're there, the come down of those drugs will set you backwards.
- 18:24SPEAKER_00: So is it really benefiting you because you may feel great for 12 hours, but then you're gonna feel like shit for 12 hours.
- 18:32SPEAKER_00: So it kind of cancels the vibrations, cancel each other out.
- 18:35SPEAKER_00: And the guy said, No, I don't experience a come down, so I just wanted to know if it was okay.
- 18:41SPEAKER_00: And she goes, Yes, if you're feeling that way, it's okay.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: So, yeah, no rules basically.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: So people go up there and they have these conversations, and as I mentioned earlier, the first gentleman that was there really annoyed people in the sense that he was up there for 45 minutes, he was a little arrogant, he was a little cocky, and he had been up in the hot seat before, and he kept asking for information about why he feels a certain way because he's a landscape architect, and there's these like plants, and he was interested in why or how he knows how to plant these plants intuitively.
- 19:27SPEAKER_00: And Abraham offered explanation, and he said, No, that's not it.
- 19:31SPEAKER_00: And they offered another and another, and and he basically um he just kept saying no, and the audience was really visibly irritated.
- 19:41SPEAKER_00: Uh, they were and they and after he said, No, I'm not done yet, she basically said, Yes, I need to move on.
- 19:48SPEAKER_00: And I've never seen her do that before, but they did after like 45 minutes of this person just being up there and and really refusing to take in and what uh they were saying, and it was interesting, and I don't really feel bad about saying that because it was kind of very um uh blatant and obvious that this person was not very aware that there was a lot of people waiting to speak to Abraham and that perhaps this wasn't the best use of their time.
- 20:24SPEAKER_00: And uh and there was a lot of conversations about this person afterwards, and I, you know, I hope I'm not hurting his feelings if he's listening to this, but it was just the how do you say the perception of everybody that was there.
- 20:39SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, you go up there and you talk and you talk about all kinds of things and how you're feeling and whatever.
- 20:46SPEAKER_00: And then I was like starting to feel this weird sensation when people would talk, and she was talking.
- 20:56SPEAKER_00: I felt like I was hearing her voice, right?
- 21:00SPEAKER_00: But almost like there was a whisper in the background as she was talking.
- 21:06SPEAKER_00: It was the strangest sensation, and I was feeling super like connected, I guess you could say, and and almost like I wasn't hearing the words that they were actually saying to people, but that I was hearing this like almost like this.
- 21:24SPEAKER_00: It was almost spooky.
- 21:25SPEAKER_00: Um, it was like akin to if you ever saw the movie poltergeist, and when that little girl is putting her hands up on the screen, you can hear these whispers that are really not discernible, but they're there, right?
- 21:38SPEAKER_00: And that's kind of like what I was experiencing, so it was kind of freaking me out, but super cool at the same time, right?
- 21:45SPEAKER_00: So Abraham's going around talking to people and had actually spoken to the girl that was sitting right in front of me, and had spoken to her, and um, and that was a really lovely conversation about you know her finding true love and when it was gonna happen.
- 22:04SPEAKER_00: So that was that was really fascinating.
- 22:06SPEAKER_00: And so conversations are going by, and just so you know, because I I said I would talk about it, um Abraham often often um mentions what they call the vortex, and basically the vortex is for all intents and purposes, it's an alternate reality that is everything you've always wanted, and you add to the vortex if you have a bad experience, which is called.
- 22:34SPEAKER_00: Called contrast.
- 22:35SPEAKER_00: If you have a bad experience, then the opposite of that becomes available to you in the vortex, which is, like I said, this um alternate reality that you are creating through your life experience, which is called sifting and sorting, right?
- 22:51SPEAKER_00: So as you live life, you create what you want in the vortex.
- 22:57SPEAKER_00: And the idea is to get your vibration to match the vortex.
- 23:02SPEAKER_00: So you merge that reality into your current reality, and that's how you manifest, because everything exists in the vortex, everything that you've always wanted.
- 23:11SPEAKER_00: So they talk a lot about that.
- 23:13SPEAKER_00: So after a couple of breaks, I was like, oh my God, now I know the question I need to ask.
- 23:21SPEAKER_00: And the question I need to ask is, What am I hearing?
- 23:25SPEAKER_00: What is this whispering?
- 23:27SPEAKER_00: What is like it, what am I picking up here?
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: And I was like, okay, that's my question.
- 23:34SPEAKER_00: That's all I want to know.
- 23:36SPEAKER_00: And so I decided I would raise my hand the next time Abraham asked who you know who wants to come up.
- 23:46SPEAKER_00: So she um had picked a girl right in front of me prior and a couple of times ago.
- 23:55SPEAKER_00: And I said to myself, that doesn't matter.
- 23:58SPEAKER_00: Because if she's truly picking people based on their light and who is shining the brightest, and who basically is in a state of vibrational alignment with them, then it doesn't matter where that you know, where I'm sitting, because she'll see me.
- 24:17SPEAKER_00: And then I thought, I wonder if I can hack this by thinking of a very calm and wonderful video I created in the Florida Everglades one day on just this beautiful, breezy, perfect day.
- 24:32SPEAKER_00: So I started playing that video of pine trees on a sawgrass prairie, and it was in uh what do you call um time lapse?
- 24:42SPEAKER_00: So the clouds were moving like magically across the screen.
- 24:46SPEAKER_00: And I started remembering this video and getting connected to that experience because Abraham had mentioned that day that existing in nature was a pure expression of source energy, that nature itself was a pure expression of source energy, and that that was a wonderful way to connect to source was through energy.
- 25:13SPEAKER_00: I mean, sorry, through nature, sorry.
- 25:15SPEAKER_00: And so I decided to start visualizing that, and I did.
- 25:20SPEAKER_00: And then she asked, who would like to come up?
- 25:24SPEAKER_00: And I raised my hand and she pointed right at me and she said, Stand if you think it's you, and I stood up, and then I realized that my friend Kim was standing right next to me on my right, and I was like, Oh my god, I would I wanted to say to her, girl, step off, you know.
- 25:42SPEAKER_00: And I looked, I touched my chest, you know.
- 25:45SPEAKER_00: I was like, Me?
- 25:46SPEAKER_00: And she goes, Yes.
- 25:47SPEAKER_00: And so I walk up there, and I was I was like super nervous.
- 25:53SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Don't forget your question, don't forget your question.
- 25:56SPEAKER_00: And so I get up there, and the first thing I notice is her eyes.
- 26:02SPEAKER_00: And Esther had mentioned in in uh an interview with Oprah Winfrey, Oprah Winfrey, that her eyes, her pupils dilate.
- 26:15SPEAKER_00: And I wasn't prepared for the extent of the dilation because literally her eyes were like black, black, almost like in a horror film where you see someone's eyes where they're possessed or something, you see it black.
- 26:29SPEAKER_00: It was almost like that.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: You know, when I hear you speaking, you know, I feel like I'm hearing this whisperer, and uh something, some other information is coming.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: And I'm listening to them respond to me.
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: And while I'm listening, it was so difficult because I am analyzing the scientist in me is analyzing, you know, everything that's going on around me, and how her eyes are black, and how I feel like her, I I literally feel like something is speaking through her, almost like she's a mannequin or a robot.
- 27:14SPEAKER_00: It was so fascinating.
- 27:16SPEAKER_00: So it was hard for me to listen and to experience that and process that all at the same time.
- 27:23SPEAKER_00: And I was terrified that I was going to like like draw a blank and not even remember like where I was or what my question was.
- 27:33SPEAKER_00: And so uh that was that was difficult for me to be able to process that all at the same time.
- 27:40SPEAKER_00: So then Abraham is is you know explaining my question about having an additional like broadcast going on in the background, and and they're giving me this information, and I think it's fascinating, and and and the audience thought it was fascinating too.
- 28:01SPEAKER_00: And you can listen to this on YouTube if you look up March 18th, I'm yeah, I'm sorry, yeah, 2018, March of 2018 in Orlando.
- 28:11SPEAKER_00: If you look up that date on YouTube and it's about me questioning the messages, uh, you'll hear my uh voice and me talking to Abraham.
- 28:24SPEAKER_00: So after Abraham explained this to me, that there wasn't another broadcast going on, although I I don't know what I was hearing.
- 28:34SPEAKER_00: It was it was really interesting.
- 28:38SPEAKER_00: They went ahead and they asked me, you know, what else?
- 28:41SPEAKER_00: And I I said, you know what?
- 28:43SPEAKER_00: While I'm here, let me ask you this.
- 28:45SPEAKER_00: I have I'm a psychic medium, and I want to know how to trust myself better because I still doubt myself.
- 28:55SPEAKER_00: And then I even said, maybe this is a question for Esther and not for Abraham, because Esther channels Abraham, right?
- 29:03SPEAKER_00: So maybe I should be talking to Esther right now and asking her how she trusts the messages from Abraham.
- 29:09SPEAKER_00: But anyway, Abraham went ahead and humorously answered my question, as a lot of spiritual leaders do.
- 29:17SPEAKER_00: I found um Eckhartoli sounds so serious in his audiobooks, and when he's up on stage, he's he's so funny and he makes everybody laugh.
- 29:27SPEAKER_00: So I found that humor seems to be a common, even the Dalai Lama was cracking jokes.
- 29:33SPEAKER_00: So humor seems to be a common occurrence with people who really have an ascended viewpoint, if you want, if you want to use that word, anyway, or ascended perspective.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: So Abraham goes ahead and answers my question about being a medium and how I need how I know when I'm really connected to spirit.
- 29:54SPEAKER_00: And I have to say that I was only up there for five, like five or six minutes, and everybody stays up there for like 30, 25 minutes, and uh that's all I wanted.
- 30:07SPEAKER_00: And I just wanted those questions answered.
- 30:10SPEAKER_00: And after they were answered, and the next time we went on break, everybody was coming up to me, so many people, and saying, Can I hug you?
- 30:18SPEAKER_00: And I thought it was so weird.
- 30:19SPEAKER_00: And they were like, Thank you for being uh funny, and thank you for and I was like, What?
- 30:26SPEAKER_00: Like I and I was like, I I didn't understand this.
- 30:29SPEAKER_00: Like everybody's thanking me and and hugging me, and even in on the way home from this on the turnpike, everyone's hugging me.
- 30:40SPEAKER_00: This lady walks up to me in the when we were getting lunch in the plaza, and she goes, I saw you up on stage.
- 30:47SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, really?
- 30:48SPEAKER_00: She goes, Can I hug you?
- 30:50SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Oh, okay, sure.
- 30:53SPEAKER_00: It was it was the coolest and weirdest thing at the same time.
- 30:57SPEAKER_00: There was just such a a sense of connection, I guess.
- 31:01SPEAKER_00: And I think people wanted to continue that sense of connection even afterwards, because there's truly something, I have to say, there's truly something magical that happens when she's channeling Abraham.
- 31:16SPEAKER_00: So yeah, it it it's it's a really fascinating experience.
- 31:21SPEAKER_00: So that interaction really changed my life because what ended up happening is I deep dove into law of attraction, and I deep dove into listening her videos and trying to really understand what she meant by vibrating at a certain frequency, and and the key thing, one of the key takeaways with law of attraction is that forcing it is working against it.
- 31:53SPEAKER_00: So, and it's always on, it's always working for you, and it's been working for everyone since the day they were born.
- 32:01SPEAKER_00: The thing is, is that it's one thing to to, you know, uh what do you call it?
- 32:08SPEAKER_00: It's one thing to go about your life not realizing it, but it's another thing to understand that it's working and it and actually, and I'm gonna use this term, it's you can literally hack it because if you know how it works, you can hack it so it works for you.
- 32:31SPEAKER_00: And by all means, law of attraction does not mean sitting on a couch and doing nothing.
- 32:38SPEAKER_00: I think that is the biggest misconception about law of attraction.
- 32:41SPEAKER_00: A lot of people think I can sit on a couch and I can just think of things that I want and they will happen, and and nothing is furthest from the truth.
- 32:53SPEAKER_00: What law of attraction will do is that if you have a desire, let's say you're starting a business, and you have a desire to start a business, and you start thinking about that desire in a way as if it's already successful and it's already there.
- 33:15SPEAKER_00: In other words, or the confidence that it is successful or it will be successful, successful, and you go about your day with that vibration, you will attract what are called cooperative components, people, places, experiences coming into your life that will help you get there.
- 33:41SPEAKER_00: It won't just magically happen, but perhaps you meet somebody for lunch, and while you're sitting down having lunch with that person, their friend comes along and says, Hey, what's going on?
- 33:53SPEAKER_00: And through that conversation, you get introduced to them and then realize they are have a similar business or they have a contact that would help you.
- 34:03SPEAKER_00: That sort of thing happens.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: So you start to attract things to support your desire.
- 34:11SPEAKER_00: Your desire just doesn't manifest and pop up.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: It's all about attracting the components that will help you manifest this desire.
- 34:20SPEAKER_00: And that's like I said, the biggest misconception that people will sit on a couch, do nothing, and then bam, you know, they win lotto or something.
- 34:32SPEAKER_00: In fact, if you constantly think about something, like let's say you don't have any money and you're constantly thinking, focusing your energy on I need money, I need to get an inheritance, I need to get win lotto, then what you're actually doing is you're vibrating in the sense of I don't have that.
- 34:55SPEAKER_00: And so the universe will match it with more I don't have.
- 34:59SPEAKER_00: So you have to be really careful what law of attraction, if you're gonna try to hack it, because your your current state of mind may actually be pushing you away from your desire.
- 35:13SPEAKER_00: And that's all that law of attraction really is, is that sense of knowing, or I should say, a law of attraction practice really is is that sense of knowing that how you're feeling is going to affect how you manifest.
- 35:28SPEAKER_00: And and so constantly being aware of the thoughts you're putting out into the universe, the the the way you're feeling today and in the morning, and and it doesn't come easy, you have to practice and shifting your thoughts to a place, even if it means having a daydream about your desire, that it already happened, not daydreaming about how it's gonna happen.
- 35:59SPEAKER_00: And I always tell people don't worry about the how, focus on the wow.
- 36:05SPEAKER_00: If you focus on that feeling of it already happening and you daydream about that, uh similar to the way you would meditate, if you just like 30 minutes, if you daydream of that and you get in that sense of feeling, that's really helpful.
- 36:23SPEAKER_00: Uh, the other thing that's really helpful is meditation, is if you put yourself in the framework where you are awake, but you are not thinking about absolutely anything except meditating, then you are in a vibrational state of least resistance.
- 36:40SPEAKER_00: So the universe can start messing with your energy because you're not resisting, and it can start putting you and making arrangements for you for cooperative components to align with your goal.
- 36:53SPEAKER_00: And the idea is that you're awake, but your energy is neutral, so you're not attracting, you're not pushing.
- 37:01SPEAKER_00: It's just so the universe can pick you up and put you where you need to be, so to speak.
- 37:07SPEAKER_00: So um meditating is a is a is a big part of the law of attraction.
- 37:11SPEAKER_00: For me, it wasn't necessary, but it's um, I'm a big daydreamer, so I often enjoy spending, you know, not 24-7.
- 37:23SPEAKER_00: I do have a grip on reality, uh, believe it or not.
- 37:27SPEAKER_00: But if you have a small practice where you sit 30 minutes aside every day and give yourself permission to have a really good daydream about where you'd like to be and get and literally feel joy, um, because when you're feeling that joy because of you of the manifestation, then the universe will match that.
- 37:48SPEAKER_00: And that's how daydreaming can help you.
- 37:51SPEAKER_00: It's not going to get you there, but it's seriously gonna help you.
- 37:55SPEAKER_00: So perhaps that's why some people have the misconception that sitting on a couch all day will will help you, it won't.
- 38:05SPEAKER_00: Um, you definitely have to act on the opportunities or the impulses that are presented to you.
- 38:12SPEAKER_00: A lot of times when you're have a law of attraction practice, you might get this idea that comes through, bam, like a lightning bolt.
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: And you have to act on those impulses.
- 38:22SPEAKER_00: And as you become aware that those impulses are there, you're going to get more of them.
- 38:30SPEAKER_00: It's a whole reason I created digital soul space because I was at the gym, and I got the idea, the impulse to create a social media community where people could talk about spirituality that wasn't a negative, because it wasn't like some of the other social media platforms where they sell your data.
- 38:52SPEAKER_00: I wanted the platform to be all about spirituality.
- 38:56SPEAKER_00: So I and I said to myself, wow, if I don't act on this impulse, I will never act on anything because this is by far the strongest and the most amazing impulse I've ever received in my life.
- 39:09SPEAKER_00: And I sometimes I say to myself, Oh, I know how Noah felt when he was told he had to build the Ark.
- 39:15SPEAKER_00: It's just that sense that, wow, this is really huge.
- 39:19SPEAKER_00: And so I acted on it, and what I've manifested is just the most amazing connections with the most amazing human beings from literally all over the world, and and that's been such a gift in my life, and it's helped me in every area of my life.
- 39:37SPEAKER_00: And so you might be wondering, well, how has my law of attraction practice how how has it been?
- 39:43SPEAKER_00: So it's been amazingly successful for me.
- 39:46SPEAKER_00: In fact, a lot of people tend to bring that up to me sometimes.
- 39:51SPEAKER_00: They'll say, Everything's always working out for you, or you always get what you want, and stuff like that.
- 39:56SPEAKER_00: And it in in in all honesty, it's just because I have this amazing sense of or awareness now, how important it is to think a certain way or to maintain your thoughts in a certain way, and uh a sense of truly believing that everything is working out for me.
- 40:21SPEAKER_00: And if you really have that belief that everything is working out for you and not against you, that in itself is an amazing vibration for the universe to match.
- 40:32SPEAKER_00: So it's not really hard.
- 40:35SPEAKER_00: The hard part is is when something bad happens to you, reacting to it in a way that you're like, oh, I'm I'm so I I why my life is so you know, uh, that popular FML expression that you'll see on social media.
- 40:56SPEAKER_00: And the thing is, is that you can use those negative experiences, which is called contrast, if you realize that the act of experiencing that negative experience has just created the opposite in your vortex, in that alternate reality.
- 41:19SPEAKER_00: And so you can actually get some joy.
- 41:21SPEAKER_00: I remember walking my dog and being very upset about the neighborhood I was living in.
- 41:26SPEAKER_00: And I lived there for 20 years, and I had literally grown to hate the neighborhood.
- 41:31SPEAKER_00: And I said to myself, you really need to start finding some joy about this neighborhood, because you'll never get out of it if you if you don't.
- 41:42SPEAKER_00: And so I started um looking for things to be happy about in the neighborhood, the culture, the fact that I can get Cuban coffee and croquetas any time of the day because there was a 24-7 cafeteria downstairs.
- 41:56SPEAKER_00: I did not focus that this 24-7 cafeteria generated mass quantities of litter that would totally um pollute the front of my building that I lived in and made it look disgusting at times.
- 42:12SPEAKER_00: I I had to turn away from that and say and not get angry about it anymore.
- 42:16SPEAKER_00: But then when I did get angry, I had to then say, you know what, I just I just added to my vortex.
- 42:25SPEAKER_00: And what Abraham will use the term saying, you've launched a rocket of desire.
- 42:31SPEAKER_00: And so every time I would experience something negative, I would get a small amount of joy from it, in the sense that I knew I was launching a clear and decisive message to the universe in the form of my rocket, in air quotes, that I wanted something else for my life, and that my emotional response to that was triggering events.
- 42:59SPEAKER_00: So I got some sort of comfort from that.
- 43:02SPEAKER_00: And I started walking around my neighborhood, and when I would see like a toilet sitting on the side of the road when it's a Monday, and excuse me, when it's a Monday and they're supposed to pick up trash on Fridays, and somebody put a toilet on the side of the road, and to me, that's the most disgusting thing.
- 43:19SPEAKER_00: And I would get really upset.
- 43:20SPEAKER_00: I would say, Oh my god, there's a rocket.
- 43:23SPEAKER_00: I'm getting excited.
- 43:25SPEAKER_00: So I did this for quite some time, probably over a year more.
- 43:31SPEAKER_00: It was 20 uh when did I start?
- 43:36SPEAKER_00: I really started wanting to move.
- 43:40SPEAKER_00: I think three or four years before I moved.
- 43:42SPEAKER_00: So I started this practice of doing that, and other things happened along the way.
- 43:49SPEAKER_00: But every time something horrible would happen, I really and truly would say to myself, You're launching huge rockets.
- 43:58SPEAKER_00: So, fast forward to now, now I live in a neighborhood which I absolutely love.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: I sold my condo, um, I found this house, it waited for us for six months.
- 44:11SPEAKER_00: So that's just one example of things that manifested for me as a result.
- 44:17SPEAKER_00: I give credit to law of attraction because the way I approached it, the way I I didn't even have resources available at the time.
- 44:29SPEAKER_00: So it was like again, I'm not gonna focus on the how.
- 44:34SPEAKER_00: Gonna focus on the wow, right?
- 44:36SPEAKER_00: So I saw this house that I wanted so bad, and I'm like, okay, step by step, now I know what I want.
- 44:44SPEAKER_00: Anthony and I uh we were looking for homes, and I'm like, now I know what I want.
- 44:49SPEAKER_00: So let's kick in the law of attraction practice to really focus on not the how, the wow.
- 44:56SPEAKER_00: And little by little things fell into place to make that a reality.
- 45:01SPEAKER_00: And I will have to say that that's something that a lot of people trip up about as well, is that they think a manifestation happens in one bam, I manifested it.
- 45:12SPEAKER_00: No, it often happens in steps.
- 45:15SPEAKER_00: You'll sometimes like have four or five or six concurrent things that will happen together and in unison get you to where you need to get to go.
- 45:31SPEAKER_00: So it's it's rarely, I've rarely, at least in my case, I've rarely had it be just one thing.
- 45:38SPEAKER_00: It's like multiple things show up, and each one is like, oh wow, that just got me closer.
- 45:44SPEAKER_00: Now, Abraham used to talk about this and and refer to this as being your grid.
- 45:49SPEAKER_00: Like, if you could get a photo of your desire and you could draw lines through it and turn it into like boxes, right?
- 45:56SPEAKER_00: Like a so you almost like uh uh what is that game?
- 46:00SPEAKER_00: Like a puzzle, you know, uh, or where you flip a card over and you can see you know the picture, and then you flip enough cards over, and bam, there's your there's the picture of your desire, right?
- 46:11SPEAKER_00: Because and that's what your grid, Abraham used to refer to your grid, is that each little um cooperative component helped fill in one of those boxes of a picture until finally the whole picture can be realized.
- 46:27SPEAKER_00: And I don't think that caught on.
- 46:30SPEAKER_00: It took me forever.
- 46:31SPEAKER_00: In fact, I didn't understand it until I wasn't thinking about it.
- 46:34SPEAKER_00: And one day I'm like, that's the grid, that's what they mean.
- 46:39SPEAKER_00: And so um, so today I I I do consider myself a bit of a law of attraction expert.
- 46:47SPEAKER_00: Part of my journey and law of attraction actually involved stop listening to Esther Hicks and Abraham Hicks because I felt like I was vibrating in the sense of student and not practitioner.
- 47:02SPEAKER_00: So at some point I said, look, I know enough about this so that I know how it works.
- 47:10SPEAKER_00: So no more YouTube for now, no more listening for now, because now's the time to put it into action.
- 47:18SPEAKER_00: So I'm now a practitioner, I'm not a student of it anymore.
- 47:22SPEAKER_00: And that really helped me a lot.
- 47:24SPEAKER_00: I started um manifesting a lot of my desires um then.
- 47:28SPEAKER_00: And it's just a lot of law of attraction is just if you want a really, really easy go-to, it's just finding happiness where you are, because the universe will match that happiness.
- 47:42SPEAKER_00: So, as crappy as certain life's conditions might be, you know, finding that one thing you can be happier about and focus on, or even looking at other things.
- 47:55SPEAKER_00: A lot of you know, a lot of other things I did was you ever get cut off in the car by a very expensive car, and a lot of times your your gut reaction to that may be, oh yeah, they're driving a Mercedes, they can do whatever they think they are.
- 48:13SPEAKER_00: I started shifting that.
- 48:15SPEAKER_00: I started saying, Wow, look at that, they're blessed.
- 48:20SPEAKER_00: They had a wonderful manifestation.
- 48:23SPEAKER_00: I didn't, and this is the thing, I didn't want to associate people with money as being bad or evil or arrogant because I don't like any of those things, and I wouldn't want to be any of those things.
- 48:38SPEAKER_00: I didn't want to create that association in my head that because that was going to block me from obtaining that kind of wealth or that kind of, you know, if I didn't if I thought bad about it, then why would I even want it?
- 48:56SPEAKER_00: Why would it even manifest for me?
- 48:58SPEAKER_00: So I had to reframe my thinking.
- 49:01SPEAKER_00: And isn't that what any journey is about when you come to think about it?
- 49:06SPEAKER_00: Isn't that what any spiritual person will tell you is to reframe your perspective, reframe how you're thinking.
- 49:15SPEAKER_00: And I think that's what a law of attraction practice boils down to.
- 49:21SPEAKER_00: It's just reframing the way you think, the way you react to things.
- 49:26SPEAKER_00: And the difference is that other spiritual practices might tell you that that's important, but maybe law of attraction tells you why it's important because how it affects your life and your vibration overall.
- 49:44SPEAKER_00: And so something to keep in mind.
- 49:48SPEAKER_00: I find that, you know, and and just so you all know, if you're not familiar with law of attraction, it's not a replacement for a religion, not at all.
- 49:55SPEAKER_00: It isn't a religion.
- 49:57SPEAKER_00: I really consider it a spiritual hack.
- 49:59SPEAKER_00: It's just something that has been around, it's something that fundament uh fundamentally operates in the universe, and and we can observe it and say, you know what, I'm gonna make that work for me.
- 50:13SPEAKER_00: And I I find that even witchcraft, that's why witchcraft works so well for me, is that I have the firm belief that when I do a casting, when I cast a spell, which is a witch's way of praying, right?
- 50:31SPEAKER_00: When I cast that it's being worked on by the universe, so I can let it go.
- 50:37SPEAKER_00: It's uh like a set it and forget it.
- 50:39SPEAKER_00: If you're familiar with the Ronco easy bake oven or whatever it was called, rotisserie oven, that was it.
- 50:46SPEAKER_00: I know because I bought one.
- 50:48SPEAKER_00: So anyway, um, if you set it and forget it, and you're like, okay, this is working for me.
- 50:55SPEAKER_00: Now I can go ahead about my day and I can relax because it will work itself out.
- 51:00SPEAKER_00: Because, and that's really why witchcraft works so well with the law of attraction, because you're releasing the resistance the same way is if you use a god box.
- 51:10SPEAKER_00: If you're not familiar with a god box, a god box is a box that you designate and you can decorate it, make all pretty.
- 51:18SPEAKER_00: You can buy one at Michael's that's already designated, and they have a little magnetic clasp, and it's a really nice box that you designate as like a mailbox to the divine, and you get a letter and you write your requests on the letter.
- 51:33SPEAKER_00: I would sometimes write detailed, dear God, things are so messed up for me right now.
- 51:39SPEAKER_00: And I'd often cry while writing them.
- 51:41SPEAKER_00: But what would I do?
- 51:42SPEAKER_00: I would put it in the God box and I would say, okay, it's off to God, it's off to the mailbox to heaven.
- 51:48SPEAKER_00: And as such, I would release or let go the resistance to that, what I was worried about.
- 51:55SPEAKER_00: And unbeknownst to me, I was literally utilizing law of attraction because I was entering a state of least resistance.
- 52:04SPEAKER_00: Now, law of attraction is big is actually a part of or an offshoot of something bigger, which is called science of mind.
- 52:11SPEAKER_00: And science of mind is just basically what I said earlier that there is a universal force or energy field that runs through everything.
- 52:22SPEAKER_00: I mean, everything, not just the things that are living, your desk, your iPhone, it's running every anything in the physical universe you can taste, hear, smell, and touch, as Abraham says, that has that energy running through it.
- 52:38SPEAKER_00: And that's and it responds to the way you're thinking.
- 52:42SPEAKER_00: So science of mind is big on that, and that's why when they do prayers for healing, they don't come from the perspective of please heal me.
- 52:52SPEAKER_00: They come from the perspective of I am healed already, because they are matching, they're literally programming that energy field to heal you in truth, but in spiritual truth, it exists already.
- 53:09SPEAKER_00: So, science of mind and law of attraction um very much uh along the same lines, it's an offshoot.
- 53:18SPEAKER_00: Uh, but uh, like I said, popular culture has totally uh uh gotten a hold of it, as it did in the 50s and 60s with Neville Goddard, but the internet has certainly helped, and Abraham Hicks has certainly helped.
- 53:34SPEAKER_00: And for me, it's been absolutely life-changing.
- 53:38SPEAKER_00: So I encourage everyone out there who is listening to consider observing the law of attraction and trying to create your own practice.
- 53:48SPEAKER_00: It doesn't mean that if you don't do it, you're not gonna experience success.
- 53:53SPEAKER_00: It does not mean that at all.
- 53:55SPEAKER_00: It just means it can be a little helpful to you along the way.
- 53:58SPEAKER_00: You can totally achieve anything you want through any means that you're capable of doing, right?
- 54:06SPEAKER_00: Like you could hard work everything, but it law of attraction just makes that hard work a little easier and more fun because you're really having this sense of well-being and knowing that hey, um, everything I'm thinking and feeling that that matters, that's important.
- 54:26SPEAKER_00: And after some practice, you really and you start manifesting things and you start uh being more aware of things that are working out for you because I I think a lot of things work out for people, but they they're they're not even aware of them.
- 54:41SPEAKER_00: But you'll be even more aware of the things that work out for you, and that just strengthens your practice and gives it more support.
- 54:50SPEAKER_00: So I hope this has been helpful.
- 54:52SPEAKER_00: I am I am uh, like I said, a huge law of attraction freak.
- 54:57SPEAKER_00: It has helped me in my life so much.
- 55:01SPEAKER_00: And now that I go back and I look at my life, before I even knew about law of attraction, I can see where it had worked.
- 55:07SPEAKER_00: I can see where, you know, I was in the some of the darkest times of my life, but I held on to hope thanks to my mom, who really instilled in me that there's always hope for everything.
- 55:20SPEAKER_00: And so I didn't even realize that that little glimmer of hope that I would hold on to in the darkest of times, that was activating the law of attraction.
- 55:30SPEAKER_00: Because I that hope allowed me to believe that things would actually work out for me.
- 55:35SPEAKER_00: So even some of the darkest times I had, I was at a vibrational frequency to attract other things that would get me out of that hole.
- 55:46SPEAKER_00: So, oh, thank you, Anne-Marie Slater.
- 55:50SPEAKER_00: So we have some people listening.
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- 56:42SPEAKER_00: Okie doke.
- 56:43SPEAKER_00: So thanks for listening, everybody.
- 56:46SPEAKER_00: And I really uh wish you all the best in your journey of law of attraction.
- 56:51SPEAKER_00: It's a for real thing, it really changed my life in truly miraculous ways.
- 56:58SPEAKER_00: I I did not have enough time to go into every single way law of attraction has helped me, but I I'm lucky because Anne Marie has joined me through much of my journey through law of attraction.
- 57:13SPEAKER_00: So she's been witness to it.
- 57:15SPEAKER_00: Oh, thank you, Sharon.
- 57:18SPEAKER_00: Thank you so much, Anne Marie.
- 57:21SPEAKER_00: Hello, Donald.
- 57:22SPEAKER_00: So, anyway, uh I hope everyone has a wonderful day and you've enjoyed this podcast.
- 57:27SPEAKER_00: Thank you for listening.
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