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TMG: Molly Mae’s Threenager’s Headlock Drama · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to the mums group you actually want
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  Speaker 1: to be a part of. I'm Kate Torber and I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined by my sisters and journalists, Amy and Sophie. Now Sophie,
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  Speaker 1: we have a little treat this week. We're off to
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  Speaker 1: the day spa, aka the doctor's clinic, to have our
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  Speaker 1: iron infusions. Yeah, I think this is a necessity for
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  Speaker 1: me and I'm very much looking forward to it. If
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  Speaker 1: you listen to Outspoken, you will have heard that my iron, well,
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  Speaker 1: my ferritin is sitting at negative five, which When I
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  Speaker 1: asked ChatGPT what that meant, it said that's actually not possible.
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  Speaker 1: It said you were dead. Yeah. It means that I
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  Speaker 1: am depleted of all iron in my body. So it's
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  Speaker 1: a new low for me. Last time I had to
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  Speaker 1: have an iron infusion, it was because my reading was
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  Speaker 1: again on the negative, but it was so low they
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  Speaker 1: actually couldn't tell me how negative it was. See, I
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  Speaker 1: thought mine was bad. Mine was like five and I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: oh my God. And then Sophie trumps me. I love
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  Speaker 1: how you said they couldn't tell me how negative it was.
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  Speaker 1: I could tell you how negative you were. You would
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  Speaker 1: be a very negative Nancy. Well, my doctor did ask
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  Speaker 1: me if I was depressed at the time and I
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  Speaker 1: said no, because I wasn't. In hindsight, maybe I was.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking forward to. Imagine how good we're
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  Speaker 1: going to feel once our iron is restored. And listeners
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  Speaker 1: of our very first episode of The Mums Group will
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  Speaker 1: know that it is such a treat as a mum
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  Speaker 1: to get out to a appointment like this. Yeah, I'm jealous.
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  Speaker 1: Is it an hour that we get to lie down
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  Speaker 1: while we have the infusion? I'm going to scroll. I
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  Speaker 1: hope the woman doesn't talk to me. No, you get
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  Speaker 1: talked to. But they're lovely there. I'm actually now soon
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  Speaker 1: going to book in my secondary spa appointment, which is
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  Speaker 1: my MRI to get my ganglion cyst removed. Oh, Sophie's
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  Speaker 1: having a week of it. Yeah. I'm going to be
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  Speaker 1: back and better than ever. I think we need these
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  Speaker 1: spa days after our shopping excursion on Saturday. Because a
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, we were talking about how Great
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  Speaker 1: it was having a child-free shopping trip. This week we
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  Speaker 1: had all three boys and it was a real excursion.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I forgot, like obviously we're identical triplets and
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  Speaker 1: we have always been stared at when we're out in public.
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  Speaker 1: It's really uncomfortable but I feel like that's been taken
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  Speaker 1: up a notch now that we walk around with three prams. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we look like this real freak show. Like I used
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  Speaker 1: to feel like a bit of a freak show walking
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  Speaker 1: around just the three of us. But it's on drugs
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  Speaker 1: now with the prams.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, a lady stopped us. She was so
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  Speaker 1: lovely but she was sort of just like, We were
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  Speaker 1: in the toy aisle and I was like, this woman
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  Speaker 1: seems like maybe she knows one of us or something.
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  Speaker 1: And I could then see her look over at Soph's face,
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  Speaker 1: then Kate's face and mine. I was like, oh, that's right.
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  Speaker 1: She clocked it. The whole triplet thing. But that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even the highlight of the trip. The highlight for me
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  Speaker 1: was when the escalator broke, having to push Harry up
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  Speaker 1: it and being stopped by one of the security guards.
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  Speaker 1: Excuse me, sir. Oh, sorry, madam. I was like, excuse me?
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  Speaker 1: The best bit was you're walking around with a bluey
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  Speaker 1: backpack on. Because I was with you when he said
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  Speaker 1: that and I analysed your outfit, but I don't quite
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  Speaker 1: understand how he got confused. Well, actually, I was wearing
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  Speaker 1: men's pants because I was wearing the Adidas tracksuit pants,
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  Speaker 1: which Kate has informed me are actually men's pants. So, Mr.
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  Speaker 1: Security Guard, that's okay. You've misgendered me. It's fine. It
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  Speaker 1: really makes you feel good about yourself, though, when an
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  Speaker 1: incident like that happens and it's, you know, fills your
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  Speaker 1: confidence up. Thank you so much for that. The cherry
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  Speaker 1: on top of the cake of this trip was when
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  Speaker 1: we were like, oh, let's just bring all the lads dinner.
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  Speaker 1: We'll feed them all together. We'll go get a coffee
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  Speaker 1: or a soft drink. We actually ended up at Betty's Burgers. Stupidly,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't order as soon as we sat down and
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  Speaker 1: ended up waiting like 45 minutes for hot chips. I
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  Speaker 1: thought that's what you guys were doing. I had rushed
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  Speaker 1: off to the parents' room with all three boys' meals
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  Speaker 1: to heat them up in the microwave. I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was obvious that you guys were meant to order food.
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  Speaker 1: I came back, no drinks, nothing. We sat around for
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  Speaker 1: 40 minutes waiting for a hot chip's They obviously run
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  Speaker 1: off their feet. I love Betty's burgers. It was our fault.
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  Speaker 1: There was no shade at all. It was our stupidity
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  Speaker 1: for not ordering. I have never inhaled chips quicker in
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  Speaker 1: my whole life. We had to get up because all
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  Speaker 1: three kids by this stage were beside themselves screaming. And
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  Speaker 1: the only way to stop them screaming was to have
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  Speaker 1: some movement in their prams. And we ended up putting
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  Speaker 1: them in a circle facing each other whilst we had
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  Speaker 1: our backs turned to them scarfing the chips. And we
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  Speaker 1: had to say that they were very, very spicy because
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  Speaker 1: your toddler, Kate, he wanted to get a hold of
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  Speaker 1: some of them. Oh, I was like, we need to
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  Speaker 1: stand behind Jack and make sure he doesn't see what
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  Speaker 1: we're eating because he's going to want them. Actually, that
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  Speaker 1: reminds me, Kate, I saw this TikTok the other day
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  Speaker 1: and it made me think of you. Because whilst Sophia
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  Speaker 1: and I do have toddlers, I feel like we're at
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  Speaker 1: different toddler stages. Like you're in the trenches. Oh, I'm
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  Speaker 1: in the tantrum stage. So a woman put on the
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  Speaker 1: video of her eating an Oreo and she wrote, sometimes
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  Speaker 1: when my toddler is being extra mean, I eat a
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  Speaker 1: cookie in front of him and tell him he can't
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  Speaker 1: have any to show him who's boss. Now this really
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  Speaker 1: divided the comment section. Some argued that it was very
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  Speaker 1: childish to do this while others said it was fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: My favorite comment read, That's so immature. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be doing this tomorrow, which got 47.9 thousand likes.
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  Speaker 1: I just don't get why you would do that. Wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: that make them have a tantrum even more? Like, isn't
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  Speaker 1: that just like rage baiting your toddler? I think he
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  Speaker 1: was having one anyway. So she thought, what the hell?
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  Speaker 1: UK influencer Molly May is back in the headlines after
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  Speaker 1: revealing her three-year-old daughter Bambi put someone in a headlock
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  Speaker 1: during a visit to Pizza Express. Let's take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to what she said.
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  Speaker 3: All I'm going to say is that I thought Bambi
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  Speaker 3: was out of her aggressive era.
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  Speaker 2: I was very wrong.
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  Speaker 1: And headlocks were put in place, not by me, by her.
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  Speaker 3: It should have been by me.
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  Speaker 1: Honestly, it was bad. Now, Molly gave this update on
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  Speaker 1: her YouTube, but as people do, someone's clipped it up
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  Speaker 1: and put it on TikTok and it's been viewed 3.6
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  Speaker 1: million times. The top comment on the video was, Furia name,
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  Speaker 1: Fury by Nature, which got 85,000 likes. Another popular comment was,
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  Speaker 1: imagine being put in a headlock by Bambi Fury at
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  Speaker 1: Pizza Express, which got 80,000 likes. Now, other people questioned
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  Speaker 1: how she knew how to put a kid in a headlock.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty obvious. Surely she's seen Tommy and also her
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  Speaker 1: uncle Tyson in the boxing ring. Well, for people who
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  Speaker 1: are not aware, her dad is Tommy Fury, the brother
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  Speaker 1: of Tyson Fury. They are a very well-known boxing family.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, Tyson was the heavyweight champion of the world.
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  Speaker 1: I just love how much TikTok loves Bambi Fury. And
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  Speaker 1: I don't just mean women, like grown men have such
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  Speaker 1: respect for her. Well, TikToker Ben Oak, who has over
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  Speaker 1: 50,000 followers, said that Bambi is the answer to nature
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  Speaker 1: versus nurture. Let's take a listen to what he said.
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  Speaker 3: Sorry, I'm back on this Bambi, Molly Mae thing. I
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  Speaker 3: genuinely think Bambi might be the answer to a very long,
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  Speaker 3: long debate. Nature versus nurture. Because here's the thing, I
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  Speaker 3: don't think Molly Mae is in the house putting on
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  Speaker 3: Roman Reigns and like jumping from the top of the stairs. Like,
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  Speaker 3: trying to RKO, like, Fury. I think this is genuine
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  Speaker 3: a case of Bambi's got them genes. Like, you know how, like,
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  Speaker 3: men can have, like, an extra Y chromosome that makes
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  Speaker 3: them more prone to, like, violence and aggression? I think
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  Speaker 3: Bambi's got that. Makes her more like, you know, she
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  Speaker 3: just got that. She got that je ne sais quoi
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  Speaker 3: for anger and violence. But I love it. Here's the thing.
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  Speaker 3: I love it. I'm not mad at it. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: saying that sitting here thinking, oh my God, she's the
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  Speaker 3: worst thing to ever happen. I'm saying that sitting here
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  Speaker 3: thinking that when I procreate, I find myself a fury
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  Speaker 3: so that my first youth can go around batting off
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  Speaker 3: people's noses and putting children in headlocks. Some people have
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  Speaker 3: children that can recite the nine times table. Some people
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  Speaker 3: have children that can speak Punjabi forwards and backwards. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want a kid that can put up a kid
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  Speaker 3: in headlocks.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, that's cunt. Yeah, this of course comes off
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  Speaker 1: the back of Molly opening up late last year about
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  Speaker 1: a biting pandemic that happened at Bambi's daycare. So Molly
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  Speaker 1: revealed at the time that Bambi had bitten a number
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  Speaker 1: of children as well as came home with bites herself.
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  Speaker 1: Apparently that's pretty common in childcare. Harry likes to bite,
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  Speaker 1: so I can see how common this would be. It
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  Speaker 1: is the worst feeling ever when your child bites another child.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Harry's only bitten your children, but I can't...
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, actually he has He also likes pulling hair.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe he's got a bit of fighter in him. I
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  Speaker 1: actually really feel for Molly Mae because this is a
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  Speaker 1: very normal thing that children do. As you said, I've
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  Speaker 1: spoken to daycare mums and they're like, oh, my God, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: everyone bites each other there. Hopefully not the educators. It's
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  Speaker 1: just gone viral because Molly keeps posting these hilarious clips
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  Speaker 1: of Bambi. Like there was one where she was listing
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  Speaker 1: off other children that she wanted to bite. Let's actually
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  Speaker 1: throw to it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to bite someone.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, no, no. I'm going to bite your way. No,
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  Speaker 2: we don't use our mouth to bite, do we?
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  Speaker 3: What do we use our mouth for?
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  Speaker 1: For food.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for food, for eating.
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  Speaker 1: We bite our food.
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  Speaker 2: Don't bite anyone. We bite Emily.
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  Speaker 1: No. We bite this way. No.
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  Speaker 3: No. No, I don't know why I'm laughing at that.
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  Speaker 3: We bite croissants.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We bite pasta.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 3: We bite pizza.
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  Speaker 1: This video, again, sparked so many different parodies and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like people have created this persona online of what
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  Speaker 1: Bambi must really be like even though she clearly is
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  Speaker 1: just a normal three-year-old. I love that Molly's like, we
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  Speaker 1: bite croissants and we bite donuts. Also the fact that
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  Speaker 1: everyone thought she said, want to bite Dory, but it
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  Speaker 1: was actually her friend's story. But then there were all
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  Speaker 1: these memes of like Dory from Finding Nemo and even
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  Speaker 1: I think it was Heinz, the baked bean brand, they
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  Speaker 1: sent different baked beans with the kids' names on it
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  Speaker 1: and one said Dory and they said they could eat
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  Speaker 1: the baked beans instead of biting each other. I wonder
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  Speaker 1: how Bambi will feel about this when she's, because, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's all fun and games now, but I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this would be deeply embarrassing for this to be your
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  Speaker 1: digital footprint. I think she will have such a cult
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  Speaker 1: following by the time she hits like 18. She might be.
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  Speaker 1: be worried about it. I think the vision of her
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  Speaker 1: toilet training is probably worse than this. I was going
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  Speaker 1: to say Bambi might be like Venezuela. eerie where she
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  Speaker 1: just has like a massive TikTok. Yeah, she'll take it
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  Speaker 1: in her stride. All jokes aside, I really did enjoy
• 10:13
  Speaker 1: this vlog Molly shared because it's the second time that
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  Speaker 1: she's given us an update since her son Midas was
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  Speaker 1: born two months ago. And you could tell she's really
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  Speaker 1: in the thick of it. She said that she was
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: trying to keep her head above water. And she also
• 10:26
  Speaker 1: mentioned Midas has reflux and she spoke about how she'd
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: forgotten her what a state of fight or flight you're
• 10:33
  Speaker 1: in when you have a newborn. And it really just
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  Speaker 1: took me back to that time. My favorite part was
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  Speaker 1: that she keeps walking around the house with this massive iPad,
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  Speaker 1: which she's got her baby monitor on. And she was
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: saying that a lot of people say with your second child,
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  Speaker 1: you've got to forget about the routine that goes out
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  Speaker 1: the window. And she's like, I will not forget about
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  Speaker 1: the routine. I need my children to sleep. And I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't relate to that more because I have been an
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  Speaker 1: absolute stickler for the routine. She also mentioned that she
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  Speaker 1: had recently I think they traveled three hours to go
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: on a bit of a family holiday with her side.
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  Speaker 1: It was to stay at her mom's house. Yeah. And
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  Speaker 1: she said that she's in this dark room trying to
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  Speaker 1: get Midas to sleep while everyone else is outside having
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  Speaker 1: a barbecue. And she was like, is it worth it? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that was so relatable. I've been there so many times
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, it seems so fun out where everyone
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  Speaker 1: else is and you just can't be out there. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she also said how originally she had thought once she
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  Speaker 1: had Midas that looking after the newborn was easier than
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  Speaker 1: looking after a toddler. But now I think reality sunk
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  Speaker 1: in of just like how intense the newborn routine is
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  Speaker 1: that she's like, give me toddlers. Well, it's probably because
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  Speaker 1: he's woken up to the world. I also think a
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  Speaker 1: part of that is she said that she thought that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to spend all this lovely family time,
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  Speaker 1: the four of them together, but she's realized that having
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  Speaker 1: two kids is all about dividing and conquering. So it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like Tommy's been off with Bambi and they're probably
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  Speaker 1: going out to the park and getting out into the
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  Speaker 1: sunshine and she's at home trying to do this sleep routine.
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  Speaker 1: No wonder Bambi's trying to box on with everyone. She's
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  Speaker 1: been spending so much time with her dad. Another thing
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  Speaker 1: I found really relatable was the fact that Molly May
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  Speaker 1: said that at a six week checkup, she got her
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  Speaker 1: obstetrician to fit a coil and She was like, the
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  Speaker 1: last thing we need is another pregnancy. And then she
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  Speaker 1: also referenced that she thinks they're done at two children. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she's hinted that before. And according to The Sun, and
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  Speaker 1: take that with a grain of salt, but that comment
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  Speaker 1: has really set off Tommy Fury's family. So apparently a
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  Speaker 1: source close to the family was quoted as saying, there
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  Speaker 1: are also very different views about family and what the
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  Speaker 1: future should look like. And Molly's comments about not wanting
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  Speaker 1: any more children have gone down really badly. It becomes
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  Speaker 1: a real talking point within the family. I'm assuming this
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  Speaker 1: is from Tommy's dad, John, because he was rumoured to
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  Speaker 1: be telling the press the baby's name as well. I've
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  Speaker 1: been seeing snippets of this new podcast that Tommy and
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  Speaker 1: John are doing together and the tone that the father
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  Speaker 1: speaks about Molly, it's so clear that he doesn't like her.
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  Speaker 1: And this recent quote from an anonymous source comes off
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  Speaker 1: the back of The Sun reporting a couple of months
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  Speaker 1: ago that things were tense between Molly and Tommy's family.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Tommy's family are Irish travellers.
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  Speaker 1: So having a big family is really important culturally for them.
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  Speaker 1: His brother, Tyson Fury, and his wife, Paris, have seven children.
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  Speaker 1: So obviously they're like looking at Tommy and Molly and like,
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  Speaker 1: why do you only have two children? In contrast, Molly's
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  Speaker 1: sister Zoe Ray was talking the other day on a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube about how she doesn't think she actually wants to
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  Speaker 1: have any children and a lot of people were saying
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  Speaker 1: oh this is because she's been hanging out with Bambi
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  Speaker 1: like she has seen the full effect of just how
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: difficult it is to have a toddler but you know
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  Speaker 1: you've got to do what's right for you and just
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  Speaker 1: because Paris Fury has seven children it doesn't mean that's
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  Speaker 1: necessarily the right fit for Molly. Oh What an absolute
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  Speaker 1: nightmare having seven children. Yeah, I think that Molly's just
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  Speaker 1: being self-aware and going, well, two is my limit. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I actually think that one was potentially her limit and
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  Speaker 1: she has had the second child for Tommy. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like two was a push for her. Well, also
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  Speaker 1: the family are complaining that they don't see the kids enough.
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  Speaker 1: Talking about Tommy's family, he and his dad are also
• 14:01
  Speaker 1: in hot water over some other comments they made about
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian's parenting. on their podcast. So during an episode,
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  Speaker 1: they were quite judgmental about Kim for having a team
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  Speaker 1: of 10 staff to help her raise the four children
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  Speaker 1: that she shares with Kanye West. Let's actually throw to it.
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  Speaker 2: Ten nannies and mannies raising Kim Kardashian's kids.
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  Speaker 1: If you can't look after these kids yourself, don't have them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, ten nannies.
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  Speaker 3: It's ridiculous.
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  Speaker 1: In my family, there was a lot of us, and
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  Speaker 1: my mother looked after us all by herself.
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  Speaker 2: If you've got money, you can afford a nanny.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, back in the day, you couldn't afford to do that.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a cheap thing, is it?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 2: Do you know who Kim Kardashian is? Yeah. I'm just
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  Speaker 2: going to see how many kids she has to warrant
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  Speaker 2: ten nannies. Sorry, mannies as well.
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  Speaker 1: Mannies and nannies, Christ.
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  Speaker 2: She's only got four kids. But they're not all working
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  Speaker 2: at the same time. They're kind of on like a
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  Speaker 2: rotation in shifts. I guess we don't know the full
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  Speaker 2: story though. Listen, do you know what it is? I'm
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: all for having some help on board and help you out.
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: It's like me and Molly, we have help, but we're
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: with Bambi every day, all day.
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: Well, I see that myself, don't I?
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: It's only if I've got to go on a call
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: or Molly's on a call or whatever like that, or
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: we've got to shoot her out. The baby's looked after
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: all the time. Yeah. But I don't understand people who
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: just dump the kids with nannies and nannies all day
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: and don't see it.
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: Well, this is it, you know, and at the end
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: of the day.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: I don't understand that.
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I'm surprised that Tommy would even comment on that, especially
• 15:22
  Speaker 1: after the headlines that came out when the public discovered
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: that he and Molly have a nanny for Bambi. It
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: was pretty hypocritical and it also comes across as quite sexist.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, hey, Tommy, you left to go do your boxing.
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: You were at training camp when your first daughter Bambi
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: was born. So it was okay for you to leave
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: her alone. with your wife. Your sister-in-law had to step
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: in and help out. But when Kim has got work on,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, Kim Kardashian is one of the most famous
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: women in the world. She has so much work on.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: She's also studying law. Well, she's also a single mom
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: now too.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: So she's not allowed to have a nanny, but you
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: are allowed to have a nanny when it suits you.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: It's a strange thing to die on when you actually
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: have a nanny as well. And also no shade at
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: Molly Mae, but somewhat of a secret nanny because, you know,
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to admit that they had one. Well,
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: they touched on that on her reality show. Yeah. Very,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: very strange. Listeners were quick to hit out at Tommy
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: and they said that he didn't understand the mental load
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: of being the primary caregiver. Some said the only difference
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: between him and Kim was he was getting help from
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: Molly's family for free. Another good point. One wrote, a
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: man with a full-time nanny judging a woman with a
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: full-time nanny. A new social media trend is encouraging mums
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to run their households like corporations. Mums are being encouraged
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: to create mission statements for their homes and as well
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: as hold weekly meetings with their partner to delegate household tasks.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: But many believe this intense desire to optimize every waking
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: moment may be leading to burnout. I feel tired just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: thinking about it. Amy, can you tell us more about
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: this trend? Yeah, so it's been labeled as mum maxing
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: and it's being pushed by mummy influencers who are offering
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: up Tips and tricks to show other mums how to
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: be more organised. And it already annoys me from the
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: get-go because it's not called parent maxing. It's mum maxing.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: It's on the mum to do it. Yeah, so in
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: these videos you see mums stocking up the fridge, of course,
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: with homemade meals. They also have these beautiful pristine homes
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: and they undertake postpartum workouts while spending as much time
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: with their kids as humanly possible.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: That's right.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: You've got to get it all done whilst giving your
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: kids 100% attention because that is– Completely possible. Now, I
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: do think that a lot of the mums posting this
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: content have good intentions because they are trying to show
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: other mums how to be more organised. But a lot
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: of critics are saying this is putting pressure on mums
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: to be perfect and it's leading to unrealistic standards. What
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: do you think? Because you've been telling me that these
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: videos have been showing up in your For You page
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and it's actually motivated you. It's not so much mum
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: maxing videos. It's more I'm on the side of clean
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: talk at the moment and decluttering. So I'm getting a
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: lot of tips on how to keep a home clean,
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: which sadly seems to align with being a stay at
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: home mom and looking after your kid, because unfortunately a
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: lot of that seems to fall on you if you
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: are the primary caregiver at home. So I have found
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: doing things like a load of laundry every day and
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: making sure all the dishes in the kitchen is clean
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: whilst my son is eating breakfast. I found little things
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: like that really helped my day, but I don't know
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: if I would call it mum maxing.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: I just think the mum maxing content makes you feel
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: like shit though. Cause like, for instance, there was this
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: one video of a pregnant woman who has a toddler
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: and she was telling her followers how she wakes up
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: at 4am every day. So she'll go on a run.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: She'll do two loads of washing. Then she'll make breakfast
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: for herself, her husband and the kid. and clean the house.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: And this is all while her husband and toddler are sleeping. Oh,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: it's that old thing. It's like, get up before your
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: kids do it. It's like, why the fuck would I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: do that? If that was me, by the time it
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was five o'clock, I would fucking hate everyone. I'd hate
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: the world. I would not be a pleasant person to
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: be around. See, I would much rather relax at night
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: when my son goes to sleep. I'd like to unwind,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: have my dinner, watch TV, rather than going to bed
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: as soon as my kid goes to bed and then
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: waking up to do exercise. I know. It's how he is.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Have you seen those TikToks where it's like, the stay
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: at home mom, or sometimes they don't even have kids
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: and they get up early to make breakfast for their husband.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: And it's like, they pack them in all these little
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: bags and it's some gourmet cuisine. I'm like, what? Yeah.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I hate that content. Like, can't the husband make his
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: own fucking sandwich? I mean, a lot of people are
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: pushing this really unrealistic standard on women. I enjoy the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: content where moms actually show off what the houses look
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: like after a day of being home with their kids.
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: When it's like, welcome to my house. Yeah. They're walking around.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: And everything's just completely trashed. I mean, as it should be.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the other concern a lot of people say, well,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: if you're too busy maximizing and optimizing every moment of
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: your day, are you truly being in the moment with
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: your child? Or are you just worried about what the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: aesthetics of your home look like? This is the issue
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: with social media. We never used to know what people's
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: houses looked like. There wasn't all this pressure on our
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: moms back in the 90s because you know, you'd only
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: really see someone's house if you visited it and they
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: probably had done a tidy up before you came. I
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: really also don't like the term mum maxing because for
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of us mums, we're in survival mode. We're
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: not about optimising the mum experience. We're just about getting
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: through the day. So if you look at this content
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: and you think, oh, I'm failing, you're not. Literally, this
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: is all content for TikTok and it's to get followers
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: and And it's to drive engagement because I'm sure a
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: lot of the comments are like, this is very unrealistic.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: The only thing that makes me feel slightly better is
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: knowing that some of these people with these pristine homes
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: are actually waking up at these ridiculous times in order
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to maintain them. Because otherwise I'm thinking, fuck, how do
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: these people get so much done in a day? I
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: just assume they have cleaners. Because the thing is, as
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: I said, I have been making an effort to keep
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: on top of making sure the kitchen's clean and And
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: loads of laundry are done because it does make me
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: feel better. But then I'm like, God, I have not
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: had time to scrub our floor or do vacuuming. Like
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: those are jobs where I think someone's definitely got a
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: cleaner to do that. But the reality is that as parents,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: we actually need to be conscious that we give ourselves
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: time to relax. So we can't be constantly optimizing every moment.
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: I read an article on mum maxing and it said
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that 60% of parents don't routinely do anything to relax
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: and recharge. And this is leading to parental burnout. It's
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: so true. The other night, it was Saturday night and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, okay, I'm home alone because my husband
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: was working late. And I'm like, okay, I'm going to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: sit down and watch some YouTube and relax. But then
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: I had this list of all these mental tasks and
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: it was silly organizational things. But I'm like, I just
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: feel like I need to get them done now rather
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: than relaxing. And then the other night I was like, nah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to relax. I'm going to lie down. I'm
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: going to watch the block properly. Fell asleep within two seconds. Yeah.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: Isn't that the worst? It is, but your body obviously
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: needed it. Let's get into Iconic or Unhinged, and I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: have found a story on the Daily Mail that I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: want to get your opinion on. So a mum has
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: gone viral for serving her 12 kids nachos in a
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: paddling pool. We're going to get cancelled for saying nachos
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Nachos.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Just say nachos, Amy. No, it's nachos. So this woman
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: was slammed for being unhygienic and wasteful. Let me get
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this straight. Okay, so did she actually serve the corn
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: chips and sauces? Like she used the paddling pool as
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: a plate or her 12 kids were in the paddling
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: pool while they ate nachos? No, no, yeah. So you
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: know one of those like half shell, you know those
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: like you get them from Bunnings, the plastic paddling pools? Oh,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: she put nachos in there. She's used it as a
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: huge bowl. Like a buffet. Yeah, she's poured so many
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: corn chips in there. The sauces, she was like pouring
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: them out of like huge vats of it. And is
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: this a regular thing that she does or is this
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: just for social media? I think it was just for
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: social media. But she showed this is how you can
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: feed 12 children. There were no knives and forks. Everyone
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: was just getting in there with their hands. Who eats
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: nachos with knives and forks normally? Like if you're a child,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think you have to use a knife and fork. Yeah,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: but it was just something that seemed quite– as people said,
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: unhygienic about the whole thing. She clearly bought the paddling
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: pool new. A lot of people who were defending her
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: were saying, well, what's the difference between this and a
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: very large bowl? Oh, it's just a stunt for TikTok really.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: But is it iconic or unhinged then? I think it's iconic.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: I think what a great idea. Those kids will remember
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that forever. They'll be like, mum, do you remember when
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: you got the paddling pool out and we all had nachos? Yeah,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: I've seen that where parents will put, I think it's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: like a big thing of baking paper or something down
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: the table and And they'll just pour pasta all over
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: the table with sauce and the kids are meant to just,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: you know, get in there and eat with their hands.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Have you seen that on TikTok? I find that worse.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I find that more offensive than nachos in the paddling pool.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: There was something about this blue paddling pool which just
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: looked a bit gross though. Look, I haven't seen the
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: vision so maybe it was not as aesthetically pleasing as
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: people hoped but I'm just more interested in how she
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: feeds 12 kids normally. Like what a feat that is.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: That must be so expensive. Imagine how many ooshies she gets. Guys,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: we're having lasagna in the paddling pool tonight. Do you
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: know what would be cool in a paddling pool? Oh, actually,
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would work because you'd have to
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: fit it in the fridge, but like jelly or something. Oh, yeah.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: With lots of Freddo frogs in it. Or just one
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: big hags Freddo frog. God, you'd need a lot of
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: money for that. Well, on that note, that is where
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: we're going to leave things today. I think you can
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: probably tell that we're hungry. And also Sophie's voice has
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: dropped out of this episode. It's becoming a bit of
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: a theme, but her son woke up and being mums,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: we just had to get on with it. So she
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: was there for the Molly Mae topic. We were mum
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: maxing our time by just getting on with things. Yes,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: before our children woke up. Well, that is where we're
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: going to leave things today. But if you do enjoy
• 24:43
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• 24:55
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