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Conservative men are UNDATABLE, also they're bad in bed · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Cozy Gaming stream. Conservative men are undateable, also they're bad
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  Speaker 1: in bed. We're going to be responding to a Medium
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  Speaker 1: blog entitled Top 10 Reasons I Would Never Date a Conservative. And, um... Well, I...
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  Speaker 1: I haven't read this yet, but I'm just going to
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  Speaker 1: go ahead and spoil it and say that the title
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  Speaker 1: should really read top 10 reasons why I never date
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  Speaker 1: a man. They're just like lumping in masculinity with conservatism
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  Speaker 1: so that they can easily take a giant dump on masculinity.
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  Speaker 1: But that's my guess where this is going to go.
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  Speaker 3: So, yeah, I would say so.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: At least how we've arranged our political landscape at this
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  Speaker 3: point in time, especially when it comes to the thoughts
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  Speaker 3: and ideas from the I hate men party that is
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  Speaker 3: I hesitate to give it another label but presumptively the
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  Speaker 3: taken over by the red stockings in the 70s and
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  Speaker 3: has never been the same since that's when their marriage
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  Speaker 3: rate started to tank and their fertility started to tank
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  Speaker 3: and eventually they took the conservatives with them So, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the fact that somebody from the I hate men party
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  Speaker 3: says that they won't date a man.
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  Speaker 2: Not surprising.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, right.
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  Speaker 3: So what is what is surprising to me is how
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  Speaker 3: often they in addition to saying that they will also
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  Speaker 3: say feminist men are ick. I'm not I'm predicting we
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  Speaker 3: might get a hit a whiff of this in this
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  Speaker 3: particular article, but we'll see. We'll see. But anyway, go ahead, Brian.
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  Speaker 3: What were you going to say?
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  Speaker 1: No, I was going to say, yeah, we're going to
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, here we go. Top 10 reasons why I would
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  Speaker 1: never date a conservative by Dana Dubois. She says, it's
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  Speaker 1: not about yard signs. It's about what someone's willing to
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  Speaker 1: let happen to me.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so it's.
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  Speaker 1: About me. I feel scared. Therefore, my fears are justified.
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  Speaker 3: What somebody is willing to let happen to you. Okay, Dubois,
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  Speaker 3: do you realize that conservative women are thinking exactly the
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  Speaker 3: same thing as you are? what they're willing to let
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  Speaker 3: happen to you. For example, importing a certain class of person,
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  Speaker 3: not being tough on crime or giving infinite free do-overs
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  Speaker 3: to other certain classes of people, right? And also, I mean, like,
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  Speaker 3: a lot of this stuff is controversial, but they're both
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  Speaker 3: sides are basically saying the same question.
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  Speaker 2: How do I protect the women?
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 3: And the left side... says we protect the women by
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  Speaker 3: letting them abort their kids and possibly also kill their
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  Speaker 3: kids after the age. We protect women through protecting their autonomy.
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  Speaker 3: And the side, the other side, says we protect women
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  Speaker 3: by protecting them from trans women and immigrants. And I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there's an argument to be said that maybe we should
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  Speaker 3: stop arranging our politics along the lines of of gynocentrism
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  Speaker 3: and just thinking about how to protect women all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe there's a limit to that. Maybe we should start
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  Speaker 3: thinking about how to protect children. Huh? Could we, could
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  Speaker 3: we have that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's a wild concept.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really wild. But, uh, but yeah, so I
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  Speaker 3: would just say Dubois, you know, you, your, your statement,
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  Speaker 3: your statement right out of the gate sort of misunderstands
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  Speaker 3: the other side, you know, do, do continue Bryant. All right.
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  Speaker 1: So now we're starting the article. Every so often, someone
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  Speaker 1: tells me I'm, quote, too political, end quote, to date.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm eliminating half the dating pool over just politics.
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  Speaker 1: I want to be extremely clear about something. Politics stopped
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  Speaker 1: being abstract for women a long time ago. This isn't
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  Speaker 1: a preference like loving dogs or hating cilantro. It's a filter,
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  Speaker 1: and it's a necessary one. Here are the ten reasons
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  Speaker 1: to explain why. Okay. So, at least she jumps right
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  Speaker 1: into it. Doesn't give us a whole, like, backstory or
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  Speaker 1: anything like that. So, all right.
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  Speaker 3: We're not journeying with her through Florence to discover, like,
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  Speaker 3: new Frappuccinos or some crap. We are actually getting to
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  Speaker 3: the business.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's do it.
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  Speaker 3: All right. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: All right. Reason number one. Because at his core, he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't believe my body belongs to me. This isn't about
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  Speaker 1: a policy position he could be talked out of with
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  Speaker 1: the right article. It's more foundational than that. Somewhere underneath
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  Speaker 1: the debate about... trimesters and exceptions is a belief that
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  Speaker 1: my body is a shared decision. His, the state's, a
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  Speaker 1: stranger legislator's, and never fully mine. Everything else, the voting record,
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  Speaker 1: the just asking questions, the concern trolling about my choices,
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  Speaker 1: is downstream of that one belief. You can't argue someone
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  Speaker 1: out of a belief. You can only decide not to
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  Speaker 1: live inside it. Okay, that was reason number one.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so, yes, the idea of when life begins. Now, apparently,
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  Speaker 3: we're in the stage.
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  Speaker 1: Of trying to decide whether life begins. Yeah. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: We're post birth. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Like perhaps years after.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps years after.
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  Speaker 3: Perhaps never. Perhaps a mother always has the choice to
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  Speaker 3: unalive her child without being condemned morally for having done so.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, maybe that's ultimately where we're getting to. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: cause when you're, when you're breastfeeding, it's an imposition on
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  Speaker 3: your person, right? So why shouldn't you be able to
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  Speaker 3: just let the child starve to death? I am being
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  Speaker 3: deeply sarcastic guys. Uh, But, you know, at any stage
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  Speaker 3: after birth, when a child is reliant on his mother
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  Speaker 3: for the continuation of his or her existence, perhaps that's
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  Speaker 3: acceptable to, you know, just withdraw those resources. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's continuous with pregnancy, right? And then, so, until the
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  Speaker 3: child leaves the home... the mother should have the right to,
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  Speaker 3: because the child is reliant on her and her material goods,
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  Speaker 3: to unalive that child. Isn't that not a reasonable statement?
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  Speaker 3: Because it's imposing upon her autonomy. Any expectations or responsibilities
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  Speaker 3: for the child that she has is an imposition on
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  Speaker 3: her autonomy that she should be able to withdraw at
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  Speaker 3: any time. Right? Even when it's fatal. Right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's the argument.
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  Speaker 3: And what's really interesting to me is watching the process
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  Speaker 3: of this argument play out. The fact that this side,
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  Speaker 3: and to a degree the other side as well, wants
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  Speaker 3: this vision of autonomy that has never existed throughout all
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  Speaker 3: of human history... Like, they want complete freedom from children. Period.
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  Speaker 3: The process of reproducing the human race, it seems. Right?
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  Speaker 3: And this has never been the case throughout all of
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  Speaker 3: human history. That this has been a thing. And it
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  Speaker 3: certainly isn't the case for men. They have no reproductive rights.
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  Speaker 3: Men have none. If a man is raped and she
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  Speaker 3: gets pregnant, he is on the hook for child support.
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  Speaker 3: His bodily autonomy doesn't matter. If a man kills his children,
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  Speaker 3: there are several cases. There are some that have been
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  Speaker 3: proven to be a result of psychosis or schizophrenia. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. He's going to be executed because he
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  Speaker 3: doesn't get the right to do that. He doesn't get
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  Speaker 3: the right to assert or he doesn't get the sympathy.
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  Speaker 3: of the children being such an imposition that he should
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  Speaker 3: be able to take them out nobody's going to grant
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  Speaker 3: that sympathy men certainly won't they may be horrified at
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  Speaker 3: the thought that you know thereby the grace of god
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  Speaker 3: go i you know this guy has a severe mental
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  Speaker 3: illness and in a state of psychosis took out his
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  Speaker 3: kids but at the other hand he's still like in
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  Speaker 3: the cases that i've seen these men were still executed
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  Speaker 3: they still were walked to the electric chair and killed Right?
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  Speaker 3: And this was not just, uh, oh, I think I
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  Speaker 3: had postpartum psychosis. It just, it's past, though. It's gone.
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  Speaker 3: It was just, just, just, it was just for the
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  Speaker 3: half hour. You know, just a little bit of transient
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  Speaker 3: postpartum psychosis. No, this was like forensic psychologists looked at
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  Speaker 3: this and said, yeah, these guys were out of their
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  Speaker 3: mind when they did this. Doesn't matter. The men on
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  Speaker 3: the jury said, nope, he dies. And you know why?
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  Speaker 3: Because men conceive of this custodial behavior towards children to
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  Speaker 3: be an absolute liability, like a terminal liability. And this
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  Speaker 3: is interesting to watch, the collision between how men structure
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  Speaker 3: their values and how women structure their values. Because for men,
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  Speaker 3: taking care of children or responsibility for their dependence is
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  Speaker 3: a terminal liability. So you do it unto death. So
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  Speaker 3: you see stuff like... The Road, which is like the
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  Speaker 3: classic fatherhood movie. Very depressing. But he he takes care
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  Speaker 3: of the kid until he's dead. Right. You see, like
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  Speaker 3: John Wick, I would say, is in a similar vein.
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  Speaker 3: They used a puppy rather than a child because a
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  Speaker 3: child introduces a lot of. additional complications and it creates
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  Speaker 3: a very dark story if his wife gave birth to
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  Speaker 3: their kid and the kid died and then yeah it
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  Speaker 3: just it creates a a really a much different story
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  Speaker 3: so but the a puppy given to him by his
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  Speaker 3: wife is a custodial um duty with a similar kind
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  Speaker 3: of emotional resonance to a child so that's that's also
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  Speaker 3: that kind of thing right it's this idea that you
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  Speaker 3: are responsible for the fry and Right? That's way back
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  Speaker 3: when the paternal instinct, which was the first parental instinct. Like,
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  Speaker 3: paternal instinct is the first, guys. That was the first one.
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  Speaker 3: That's the primal one. Is paternal, fatherhood, is the primal
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  Speaker 3: caretaking instinct. The primal custodial instinct. The first custodial instinct.
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  Speaker 3: So you're a male fish, and you're protecting the fry.
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  Speaker 3: And that is your purpose, and you do it unto death.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the male value system. Do it unto death.
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  Speaker 3: This is my duty to death. And I will enact
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  Speaker 3: this even if it kills me. The female value system
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  Speaker 3: is a little bit more, hmm, when it comes to children,
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  Speaker 3: it's a little bit more conditional, a little bit more provisional,
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  Speaker 3: a little more calculating. It just isn't the same. And
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  Speaker 3: it's just interesting to see the collision between these two.
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  Speaker 3: Because for men, even if a man, like again, if
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  Speaker 3: this was Leonard, and he was 100% diagnosed with some
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  Speaker 3: kind of psychosis, and he killed his kids, a 12-man
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  Speaker 3: jury would still kill him. If it was true that
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  Speaker 3: he did it in a state of psychosis, they would
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  Speaker 3: consider it mercy. because then he now has to deal
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  Speaker 3: with the fact that he's living with a fundamental failure
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  Speaker 3: of his custodial nature. So it's mercy to kill him.
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  Speaker 3: If he doesn't have that instinct, he's not a man,
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  Speaker 3: and it's necessary to kill him. In both cases, away
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  Speaker 3: to the electric chair you go. And men understand this. Now,
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  Speaker 3: they might advocate that Leonard get a due process, because
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  Speaker 3: that's like an abstract belief in justice. but the fundamental
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  Speaker 3: emotional attitude towards that man would be disgust and horror.
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  Speaker 3: And that's not what we see with women. And I
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  Speaker 3: know there's women who say, well, it's not all of
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  Speaker 3: us doing. Yeah, but women are always the ones. They're
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  Speaker 3: always the ones that are trying to get rid of
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  Speaker 3: any kind of control on their behavior, any kind of judgment,
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  Speaker 3: any kind of criminal responsibility. It's always the women. It's
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  Speaker 3: the feminists in the UK that got rid of female
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  Speaker 3: juvenile detention and they're trying to get rid of jail
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  Speaker 3: time for women right so no matter how violent you
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  Speaker 3: are as a woman in the uk you won't serve
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  Speaker 3: time that's feminists they do the same thing in the
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  Speaker 3: west too i mean in i want to say the
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  Speaker 3: west but like the u the u.s and canada it's
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  Speaker 3: it's always women's groups advocating for women not to be
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  Speaker 3: subject to external standards of behavior So this is a
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  Speaker 3: consistent thing I've been seeing time after time after time.
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  Speaker 3: And I think it's because it's just a difference in thinking.
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  Speaker 3: It's a difference in priorities. Men have that primal custodial discharge,
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  Speaker 3: like a duty that's discharged onto death. And women just don't.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't. They can live with killing their kids.
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  Speaker 3: Men are more likely to kill themselves after.
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  Speaker 1: Right?
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  Speaker 3: And women are just like, yeah, well, what can you do?
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes they're just a burden. Yeah. And what matters is
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  Speaker 3: that I feel better about myself. I feel more free.
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  Speaker 3: And men just watch that and it's like, what? You
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  Speaker 3: have no freedom. no sense of a lethal custodial burden. Like,
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  Speaker 3: not a lethal, but like a custodial burden onto death.
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  Speaker 3: And then it's not, no, they don't. They don't.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, women can.
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  Speaker 3: There's some women, like that one woman who went into
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  Speaker 3: the burning house and got her six children out. And
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  Speaker 3: even though it ended up that she had burns across
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  Speaker 3: 90% of her body. But unfortunately, there seems to be
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  Speaker 3: this other very strong undercurrent with women that they should
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  Speaker 3: not have to be responsible to anything but their own
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  Speaker 3: autonomy that includes men and that includes children and that
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  Speaker 3: includes society and I don't know what to say except
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  Speaker 3: let's read more from one of those individuals.
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  Speaker 1: Alright let's do it alright so number two Because he'll
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  Speaker 1: tell me he's not like those guys and then vote
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  Speaker 1: for those guys. I don't need a man who personally
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  Speaker 1: treats me well while pulling a lever for policies that
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  Speaker 1: treat women like property. Personal kindness doesn't offset a ballot.
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  Speaker 1: If his vote and his values point in opposite directions,
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: I trust the vote. Okay.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: So, essentially, this is about abortion.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it's always about abortion, Allison.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I think it's about whatever it has to be to
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: basically keep women in the morally superior category. So that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: could be different things depending, but abortion is an easy,
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: low-hanging version of that claim that she's staking. So... I
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: don't think she's making this for men, obviously. She's making
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: this for other women to give her likes and follows
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: and gas her up and stuff. And participate in this.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: It's like a spiral of women validating and agreeing with
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: each other and shitting on men together so they can
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: feel closer to each other. And they're doing it on
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the internet, which means they're not really growing closer to
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: each other at all. They're just spiraling into absurd amounts
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: of misandry and anger and resentment and And they don't
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: really want it fixed, right? Because it's something that they
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: get something out of when they put into it. So
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: they get to say, well, I don't know. It's like
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: they're making these posts and they're doing it specifically so
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: that other women will see them and say, girl, I
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: agree with you. Here's a like, here's a follow, here's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: a comment, here's a share. And then those women are like,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do this again. But then another woman's like,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I'm going to do that, but I'm going to do
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: it more. And so it's just like one-upmanship of them
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: trying to outdo the last one so they can get
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: more points within their social group. It has nothing to
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: do with logic. And look, the only reason why I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: say it's not really about abortion is because they're probably
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: not in a position to where they need to decide
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: whether or not to have an abortion. but they do
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: know that there are, at least in their estimation, other
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: women out in the world somewhere that do want an
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: abortion or feel they need to or whatever, and so
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: they're trying to say, I get you, here are my thoughts,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: even though, again, they're probably never going to be in
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that position, and if they were, they would have a solution.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: But this isn't about the solution, right? It's not about
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: whether or not they're going to practice safe sex, whether
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: or not their state allows abortion, whether or not they're
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: going to do it within a certain you know, early
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: enough that it doesn't matter whether or not they're pro
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: plan B, whatever it is, whatever it is, it doesn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: matter because none of that stuff helps them like grow.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like, um, grow in this, in the social,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: like in social media, like it doesn't help them get
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: closer to the sisterhood. The only thing that does is
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: basically constantly validating other women's experiences by saying, Oh yeah,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I would never let a man do this.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I would never date a man like this. But, It's
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: all sentiment. Like, at the end of the day, this
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: woman probably is married to a man that believes that stuff.
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Who knows? But she's saying this for other women. Maybe
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'll look it up. Maybe I'll find out if she's
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: married or not.
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Hold on. Yeah, I mean, okay, well, because he tells
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: you he's not like one of us, and then vote
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: for those guys. Well, why would he tell you he's
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: not like those guys, and then vote for those guys?
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: Or is this just, Because quite honestly, if he's saying,
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'm a liberal feminist man, he's probably voting
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: for Kamala Harris or whatever. Harris?
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris?
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Harris.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Yeah, this is August of this year, so
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: just like last month. Go ahead.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: The thing is that why would he... Because this is
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: actually preemptively excluding all men. You're right, Brian, it is.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: How many of these just basically are... Because at his core,
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: he doesn't believe my body belongs to me. Alright. Here's
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: the thing. You made a choice to have sex. Sex
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: results in conception. Right? That's what happens. At that point,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: you've made a choice to make something else dependent on you.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: And I'm pro-choice, but I understand where the pro-life people
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: are coming from. It's an issue of when it becomes life, right?
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: And if you have the right to withdraw resources if
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: it's going to kill somebody that you brought into this world, right?
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: I mean, you made the decision to make this creature
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: dependent on you, this entity, this living being dependent on you,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: and now you want to deport it where it's going
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: to die, right? Like, I mean... Do they understand that?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: They think that the West has absolute responsibility for the
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: rest of the world because we have stuff and they don't.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: We have resources and they don't. So we have an
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: obligation to bring them into our world because we have
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: those resources that they don't have. That's their logic. Well,
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: but it even more so applies to.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: Entity a being that your actions brought into being and
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: made dependent on you and then here's the other thing
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: like they say that men oppress women and I've gone
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: back through the feminist corpus to really try to grapple
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: with what they're actually talking about and they say that
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: men oppress women and the point of oppression is women's
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: dependency on men and So are you oppressing your fetus
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: by creating its dependency on you? In which case, just
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: like men, you are obligated to it? obligated to provide
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: welfare and social services or whatever your resources are because
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: you have created this dependency. That's the argument. That's the
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: arguments feminists make that men make women dependent. I would
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: argue that they don't. They just serve women's dependencies. But regardless,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: and by making women dependent, they make them oppressed. They
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: oppress them. Well, that's the same logic here, except you
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: have literally brought this entity into existence through your actions.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: In creating its dependency on you, are you thus oppressing it?
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: And if you are oppressing it, do you not then
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: owe it reparations? I mean, this is the logic. I'm
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: just laying out the logic that feminists make for immigration
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: and for men's oppression and men owing women a living
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: because they oppress them allegedly. Well, the same argument applies here.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: Why not? Yeah.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Anyway.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Anyway.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: All right. So did you find out? Yes, I did.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: So here's the thing. And this is what I'm saying. Okay.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: First of all, this is a middle-aged woman, probably in
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: her fifties. She says herself, she describes herself as a
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Gen X mom that lives in the Pacific Northwest. She
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: has two teenage daughters. She is divorced from her husband. Duh.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: And basically is claims to be dating a So this
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: is like a little blurb from her About Me Substack page.
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Today I write about the perils and pleasures of Gen
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: X life, parenting teenagers, dating after marriage, co-parenting, aging parents,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: beauty norms, ambition, grief, desire, and the low-grade existential hum
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: of midlife. So she's got kids. She's probably like past
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: the point of having kids because if she's Gen X,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: she's probably like 50 years old-ish. So she's not, there's
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: no kids in her future. So, and there's no husband
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: because she's divorced. So she's never going to be in
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: this position. This is what I'm saying. She's saying they
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: want to control my body. Not yours. Not yours.
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: Nope.
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody wants to control anyone, anybody's bodies, but especially not hers.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: So like, this is what I mean when I say,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: She isn't actually, she's saying this is me, but it's not.
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: She's trying to get people that are, you know, women
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: that are like maybe in their fertile years and they're like,
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: you know, maybe they're young feminists. I mean, they probably
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: are because millennial and Gen Z women are absolutely cooked.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: They're totally woke and they're not at all appealing to men.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: That's why men are having a hard time and I
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: do not envy them at all. But, um, yeah, I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: she's not even really, she's not living the thing that
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: she said. She has two, she has two daughters. She
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: has two daughters. She did it. She probably got bored
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: of the man and divorced him or something. She lives
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: in the Pacific Northwest, which screams Seattle to me, which
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: when I look here, yeah, it's Seattle. So there you go.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: It all, it's all very straightforward. She even has like
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: another blog that she participates in called pink hair and pronouns,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: which is all about like, Queering the children. that's literally
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: what it is essays for uh queer teens and tweens
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: and young adults so.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: Yuck what are you absolutely around young people but is
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: she gonna do that to her daughters probably not so
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: just think about that that's all i'm saying i i
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: Why is.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: She vulturing around young people? Okay, that's just weird.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Well, because she's a woman and she'll get away with
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: it because nobody thinks that women can be dangerous or
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: predatory to children.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Of course not. Even when they kill them.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Even when they kill them, rape them, sexually assault them.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Sorry for the R word. Whatever. Yeah, none of that
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: matters because she's on Team Woman and that's all that matters.
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: Believe me, Brian, we're completely deboosted at this point.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have been. Yeah, that's true. I don't know.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: But go ahead.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: So you know what?
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: I completely forgot what I was going to say. Let's
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: just keep going.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Well, I did get a super chat and a couple
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: super chats. I'm going to read those real quick. Okay.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: So Senior Sticks gives us $ 5 and says, As a
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: solution can't be forced as postpartum does occur. The irrational
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: mind when chemically imbalanced as in literally out of one's
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: mind for $ 5. Okay, wait, is that a question? I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: don't even know what it is. As a solution can't
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: be forced as postpartum does occur, the irrational mind when
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: chemically imbalanced as in literally out of one's mind. I
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: guess I'll just say, yeah, they're crazy. And then he
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: gives another five and says, abortion will matter until the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: public outrage ceases politically at which point point it will
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: just become something frowned upon it depends on how much
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: it gets normalized but look i'm not here to necessarily
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: talk about the abortion debate um i think that that
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: will be handled in the way that it's handled i
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: like that it's been sent to the states i like
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: that they've overturned roe v wade i have my personal
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: views but that's not really important because what this woman
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: is talking about look i'll just put it this way
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: as i've always said the issue is never the issue
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: The issue is always whatever the revolution looks like. So
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: anything that happens is an opportunity to push in that direction.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: And so the abortion thing is just what this woman
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: is doing. This article is about a month old. If
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: this article had come out yesterday, it would have been
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: a Lindsay Clancy article making the same arguments. Because it
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: would have just been, what are the women all panicking
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: about right now? Okay, I'm going to make an article
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: about that because I want to show my allegiance to
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: that side, right? Oh, and I get to shit on
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: men while I'm at it. So I'll do that. So,
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: all right.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Because, okay.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Because he'll tell me number two, because.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: He'll tell me like, yeah, I just read that one. Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Go ahead.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: Like, well, yeah, I know those guys and then vote
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: for those guys. Well, how will she know what he
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: votes for? Unless votes become public. So what, is she
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: arguing that she will not have children or marry a
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: man and have children with him, which she no longer can?
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: If men's votes aren't made public, that she can freaking vet? Like,
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: how controlling is this?
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: It's pretty controlling.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: He tells you that... Yeah, it's incredibly controlling.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: But you're right. Like, nobody cares about her body. Nobody
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: cares about controlling it. And nobody in this entire... Our
• 33:16
  Speaker 3: conversation cares about controlling women's bodies. They care about protecting
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: the unborn. I am pro-choice and I can understand the
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: pro-life argument. And I recognize it is one hell of
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: a wicked problem to try to solve.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing.
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: What is she comparing it to? Like, I brushed against
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: it briefly, but men don't have bodily autonomy. Like, they
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: literally don't.
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: No, they don't.
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: And part of the reason why is because other men
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: won't let men have bodily autonomy. Yep. Right? They're not
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: going to let that happen. Because men are expected, on
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: a fundamental level, men have that, like I said, that primal,
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: first order, first type of care instinct in ever. Like literally,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: if you want to know where the idea of caring
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: for another being came from.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: It came from fatherhood.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: It is the primal care instinct. And men have that.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: And they're not going to tolerate another man who doesn't
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: demonstrate it. Right? That's why Mr. Schizophrenia and Mr. Actually
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: Forensically Evaluated Psychosis both got the electric chair. Because it
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: is an inviolate thing in men. So what is she comparing?
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: When she says that, oh, these men, they don't care
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: about my bodily autonomy, what she means is that conservative
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: men expect women to have a bit more responsibility for
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: their choices. And if those choices result in those women
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: having to take on obligations, then they can't get out
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: of them. Those obligations are theirs. And if they don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: want to take on those obligations, they don't engage in
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: the activity that leads to them.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: Full stop.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: That's the only difference.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: And conservative men absolutely do not allow men to have
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that kind of latitude. Not even to the point where
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: women have it. Even conservative women have more what quote
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: unquote bodily autonomy after their own choices than conservative men.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: Like this is what I'm trying to say. is that
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: conservative men are not applying a double standard here. They're
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: applying a standard lighter, much lighter to women than they
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: would ever apply to other men. And she can't stand it.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Because the world isn't restructured according to her desires for
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: her autonomy. And by autonomy, I mean when she makes
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: a decision that impacts another being, that being's own needs
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: should not be considered. Like this is well beyond bodily autonomy.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Now you're making decisions for other people's bodies, ladies. And
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: it is a wicked question. But the way she's made
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: this incredibly, this wicked question incredibly simple because she always
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: lands on whatever's best for me. Moms, everyone. Okay.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Let's read the next one.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, read the next one.
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: Number three. Because I don't really follow politics is its
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: own answer. Not following politics is a luxury reserved for
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: people politics isn't currently coming for. I don't have that luxury.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: And neither does anyone else who isn't a straight white
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: man with health insurance and full bodily autonomy. Checking out
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: isn't neutral. It's a position. And it's one I don't
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: want in my bed. Well, I don't think you have
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to worry about that. Yeah, again... You're not allowed to
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: be neutral. You can't be indifferent. So go ahead.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: And the other thing is you can't argue. Like you
• 37:20
  Speaker 3: can't say, well, actually, no, men don't have bodily autonomy.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: They don't. They're expected to give their lives for their state.
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: They're expected to give their lives for their children. I
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: don't know if they're legally expected to give their– no, actually,
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: alimony– They're expected to give up of their life to
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: their wives. These are expectations placed on men. Men don't
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: have bodily autonomy. So whatever she's talking about is a
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: fiction that can never be corrected by men actually telling her, no, no,
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: we don't. We don't have bodily autonomy. And usually where
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: someone else's bodily autonomy impacts our bodily autonomy, ours is subordinate.
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: And they can't tell her that because that would, of course,
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: be if they can't correct the record. So they have
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: to sign off on not only being treated as lesser.
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: They have to sign off on saying, no, that treatment
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: is actually being treated as superior. Yes, ma'am. Again, you're right, Brian.
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: At this point in time, one is, let's see, because
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: at his core he doesn't believe his body belongs to me, right?
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: So a man, shit, she would date. Let's presume that
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: she was fertile, which she is not. And incidentally, if
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: she was in the handmaiden's tale, they might want her
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: body for some, you know, picking up trash in the
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: state parks or something. So there you go, Brian. That's
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: what they would want her for. Nothing else, though.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: But in the case that she was fertile, so she
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: has a relationship, a sexual relationship with a man. He
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: has no opinion on whether or not he gets an abortion. Right?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: None whatsoever. Because if he has an opinion, if you, guys,
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: if you want to date this woman.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's, I don't, I'm not sure that, well,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: I could be wrong.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, if you want to.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Okay, but let's just do the thought experiment.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: All right. If you feel a burning desire to date
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: this woman... then likely she won't get pregnant, but let's
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: imagine she could. Right? You have no opinion. You have
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: negative opinion on the situation. You're going through a paternal transition.
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: That doesn't freaking matter.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: You have no opinion on it. Right? You can't even
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: have a feeling on it, guys. You have to be
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: just completely neutral. You've got to be the neutral people
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: from Futurama. My wife is having an abortion.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Tell her I said hello.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: Tell her I said hello.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: I have no strong feelings on this whatsoever. But no,
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: that won't work. You can't be neutral because she just said,
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: because I don't really follow politics is its own answer.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So no, you're not allowed to not have an opinion.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: You must have her opinion because that's the only way
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: you can be seen as fully human by her.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: I can tell you that any man that's normal is
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: going to have an opinion on whether or not his
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: female partner has an abortion and a feeling about it
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: and that precludes her dating him for some reason because
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: he might have a personhood separate from her beliefs I
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: think that's what it really comes down to If you
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: have anything separate from her beliefs, if you have an
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: existence separate from whatever coordinate silhouette that she's constructed, then
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: you are part of the patriarchy and you are wrong.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: And then again, because he tells me he's not like
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: those guys, there's no way for a man to get
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: through to number two. Right? Because he could always be
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: lying about how he voted. Yeah. Right? Number three... I
• 41:16
  Speaker 3: don't really follow politics.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: So just be like, I don't care. There's no way.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: I can actually tell you in a way that you
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: would accept that I am part of your politics. And
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: then the guy's like, you know what? I can't win.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: I'm not part of any politics.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: I'm completely agnostic.
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: While you're still fucked. She's just basically cutting off.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: You can't be agnostic. You're not allowed.
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: She's basically cutting off. You're right. Just dating a man.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Did you actually read this?
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: No. No, I just know how these things always go.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I got another super chat from Dylan for Five, and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: he says, These women care a lot about bodily autonomy
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: until a man gazes at them. Then they demand control
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: over men's mind and eyes. All right, thank you for that. Yeah,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure nobody's looking at this chick anymore. What
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: I think also is happening here is this is a
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: woman whose sexual market value is almost completely gone, and...
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: she is acting like she still has it. Um, and
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: that part of that is basically the ability, like, how
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: do you express that you're still desirable without showing receipts? Like,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: you know, footage of men ogling you or commenting and
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: like saying, Ooh, you know, beautiful. Like I want your
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: phone number, whatever. Right. I'm in your DMS. Well, what
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: you do is you basically make like blogs where you're
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: talking about how much you, like turn men down or
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: how quickly you would turn them down or how much
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: you don't need them or whatever it is, right? How
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: strict you are on your standards because that way if
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: you're not with anybody and they're like, well, you don't
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: have a man, you'd be like, well, that's because I
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: haven't found anybody good enough. Have you seen all of
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: my blogs where I've basically torn them all down? And
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: she's like in her 50s with two kids. There are
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: no men chasing her. Maybe, maybe, maybe she's got a
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: couple of orbiters, but they're probably disgusting to her. because
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: they're probably parroting all of the correct talking points, and
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: they're in Seattle, Washington as well, but they're also giving
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: her the ick. So it's like, well, I'm just going
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to tell the world I have sexual market value, and
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: that is demonstrated by my ability to shit on men
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: without worrying about the consequences, of which there are none,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: because nobody's chasing me, except for guys that I really
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: don't like. So... Anyway, that's what I think.
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, there is a great incentive that once you
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: are basically off the market to start playing these dumb games,
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: to still feel like you're desirable. Because even if men
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: are basically being like, yeah, she might be able to
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: date one for a week or whatever, they're no longer interested.
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: She can get an entire group of almost vicariously control
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: the fertility of younger women. See what I'm saying, Brian? Yep.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: She can't control her... Her fertility is done, so what
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: she does is she vicariously controls... It's like Bitchhausen's by proxy.
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: She vicariously controls the fertility of younger women through these articles. Okay,
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: if you really want to be a stable, like a drone, ladies,
• 44:43
  Speaker 3: of an older woman who failed at life, be my guest.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Sounds like it's just going to encourage you to fail
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: at life, but whatever. Let's keep going.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: All right, let's keep going. Number four, because he thinks
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: woke is an insult and not a description of being aware.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Somewhere along the way, giving a damn about other people
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: became a punchline to him. I don't want to date
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: a man for whom empathy is a weakness he's been
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: trained out of. That's not toughness. That's just numbness with
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: a flag pin. Is that like an AI answer? You
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: know how AI, like, yeah, but I don't think it is.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I think those are her thoughts.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: That's not X. That's just Y.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: It's really annoying because so many people, it's not just
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: that they rely on AI for writing, which is something
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: that I do as well, at least, but they have
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: not trained it to write properly.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: Because you can train AI to just just the facts, ma'am. Right.
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: And not not gloss it with all this.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: It's not X. It's really Y crap.
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: You know, all of its particular stylings and narrative gloss
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: and stuff that it likes to do. You can train
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: it out of that. So it's not just that they
• 46:01
  Speaker 3: used AI. It's they're they're so lazy about it. Why
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: don't you give your AI a style guide based on
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: your own writing? Why don't you train it to reason properly?
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: Why don't you train it first to be very simple
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: declarative sentences that relay facts and teach it how to
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: source stuff properly?
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: You've done nothing. It's right out of the.
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: Box, right? And it all has this... Have you noticed
• 46:28
  Speaker 3: this on YouTube? All of it... Like, all of the
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: talking heads now have the same cadence to the things
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: that they say. Have you noticed that? Maybe not.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. I have. No, that's why... That's what I'm saying. Yeah,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: I have noticed that.
• 46:43
  Speaker 3: And yes, it's... Yeah, it's very annoying.
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: It's annoying, yes.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: It's annoying.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, so... To put it simply. Go ahead.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: But anyway, so she's using AI to write this, obviously.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: She thinks woke is an insult. Okay, don't want to
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: date a man for whom empathy is a weakness he's
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: been trained out of. First of all... What she means
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: by empathy is moral circle. Now, I've described the moral
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: circle multiple times. I'll do it again. I'll try to
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: do it really quickly. But it's another phenomenon that I
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: sort of picked up when we went over that, the
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: woman with the string theory, the string fingers. You remember
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: string fingers, lady? The feminist who said that we need
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: to have compassion for, I don't know, androids or something?
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: It was cyber feminism, cyber feminism.
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: So what it is, is that people who are applying
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: this or enforcing this, they want you to demonstrate empathy
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: for things that have no functional claim on you doing
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: anything for them. So, for example, have empathy for the
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Martian space rocks. Can you do anything for the Martian
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: space rocks?
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: No.
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: Do the Martian space rocks care if you do anything
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: for them?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: No.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: But you need to have empathy for them. You need
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: to feel for them. You can't operationalize that empathy in
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: any capacity whatsoever. So it doesn't have any impact on
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: your actions, doesn't require any sacrifice, no imposition at all.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: But you've got to feel, you've got to virtue signal
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: your great, massive empathy for the Martian space rocks. What
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: does that do? It actually separates people into groups. One
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: group is willing... to do the most costless form of
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: signaling empathy, and then consider that to make them more empathetic.
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: So you're signaling empathy towards something that you need to
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: do nothing for, and that means you're more empathetic than
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: a person who looks at that and says, but Empathy
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: involves actually extending yourself some kind of sacrifice. You're not
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: really showing empathy for something that can't receive it. You're
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: just virtue signaling, which isn't empathy. It's just virtue signaling.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: And then they use that to create in-group, out-group.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: It's self-serving. It's self-serving. It's self-serving.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but they also do it to say
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: that anybody who doesn't perform this empathy ritual for Martian
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: space rocks is... subhuman and deserving of hatred. So what
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: it actually is is about creating the maximal target for hatred.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: But it also has the unfortunate side effect, and it's
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: always men that seem to be in the hatred group.
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: We hate them because they don't have empathy. It also
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: tends to filter out men because, again, like I talked
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: about earlier, men have that custodial instinct, that terminal custodial instinct.
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: So for men, empathy has to involve some kind of
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: sacrifice or it really isn't. Compassion.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: It's not.
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: It's just empty virtue signaling, which is just signaling your
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: position in the relational web.
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: It's empty.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: It's not actually compassion. If there isn't an action involved
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: in it, if there isn't a sacrifice involved in it,
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: if there isn't a weight that's being born, that's not compassion.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And so that's what she's basically doing here is she's
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: selecting out men. Like you said, Brian, once again, she's
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: basically saying that men need to regard empathy as an
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: empty signal rather than a cost, like a custodial cost
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: that you bear. So, for example, you bear a cost
• 50:38
  Speaker 3: to enforce and uphold other citizens' rights. And that applies
• 50:43
  Speaker 3: regardless of the particular biological categories those citizens might be in, etc.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: That's completely confused.
• 50:51
  Speaker 3: Not a lot. So right here, she's basically selected out men.
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, I guess there are some men who will say, oh, yes,
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: virtue is not about assuming a custodial cost.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: It's about empty.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: Flattery and words. But those men are not generally good men.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: No. They're also self-serving. All right. So number five. Because
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: how he treats LGBTQ rights tells me exactly what he
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: thinks of women. Whatever he believes about gay people, trans people,
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: queer kids is never actually contained to them. It's a
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: window into a bigger worldview, one with a strict hierarchy
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: of who gets full personhood and who gets managed, corrected,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: or legislated into compliance. A man who thinks queer people
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: are a problem to be solved doesn't carve out an
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: exception for women. He just thinks the same thing about us.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Dressed up nicer. Protective instead of hostile. Tradition instead of control.
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: Same belief, better marketing. This is AI written. She's using
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: AI to write. She probably says, this is what I
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: want to say, but I want you to make the
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: argument for me. Go ahead, Alison.
• 52:01
  Speaker 3: I just, protective instead of hostile. That's a really wide...
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: thing that you're trying to make a gradient out of.
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: Do you see that?
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, tradition instead of control. I mean,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: she's really just saying that those things are synonyms, but
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: she's trying to create separate categories. But she believes men
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: being protective is actually hostility. And men that like tradition
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: because they think it works, well, they're just controlling. You know, so.
• 52:40
  Speaker 3: That is right out of the Red Stockings formulation that
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: men who protect and provide and also all the derivation
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: work that they were trying to do to prove patriarchy
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: or to establish it, which they never managed. It's right
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: out of there. They say that men protecting and providing
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: for women induces dependency, which is the source of oppression.
• 53:07
  Speaker 3: That's what they're saying. So men protecting and providing for
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: women is oppression. So yes, she can completely, without any pause,
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: say that men being protective towards women is an expression
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: of men's hostility towards women.
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: That's where we're at, guys.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: And this is, again, this is still signaling to our audience. ultimately,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: but go ahead.
• 53:35
  Speaker 3: That completely erases, that completely erases everything that men bring
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: to a relationship at that point.
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: It's gone.
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: Like you can, you can, you can protect, you can
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: support her. Probably her husband supported her for decades.
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: And that's completely erased because of course, provision is hostility.
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: Protection is hostility. Anything a man gives a woman is
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: actually an expression of his hostility towards her.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Yep. His will to dominate.
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: And I'm telling you, that is another manifestation of the
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: same kind of collision between how men see the world
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: and how women see the world. And that is also
• 54:15
  Speaker 3: being seen with the Lindsay Clancy case. Men see provision.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: They see custodial responsibility, terminal custodial responsibility. And women don't.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: They just see position. So they see when men... enact
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: their custodial responsibilities to women unto death what women see
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: oh he's putting me less than him he's seeing me
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: as lesser than him he's he's making me dependent not
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: recognizing that her dependencies are biological because that's verboten we
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: can't talk about that biology is not a thing anymore
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: right no he's making us me lesser by making me
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: dependent everything becomes a a position in the web including
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: men's provision. And that's why I say, you know, being
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: able to make what men do and men's love legible
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: to women is what societies are founded on. I was
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: actually looking at this today, like this, this entire thing.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: And when I said this before, but I think Christian
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Christianity success or a good part of it can be
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: attributed to the whole, like, um, I hate to, I
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: can't say, I cannot pronounce it, but it's the one
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: that says that Christ sacrifices for the church. Men sacrifice
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: for their wives as Christ sacrificed for the church. Right? Ephesians?
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: Is that how you pronounce it? Yeah, Ephesians, yeah. That
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: was Paul's letter to the Ephesians, yes. Yes. Right?
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: So that was a Rosetta Stone between how women see
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: the world and how men see the world. So what
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: does it mean? It means that men's love is translated
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: in terms of cost born, right?
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: You bear a cost. That's how you express love for men.
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: And women need to know that. They need to understand that.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: And feminism explicitly attacked that, explicitly attacked the translation device
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: between men and women. explicitly, that's what they went after,
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: and they inverted it. And now we are 40 years
• 56:38
  Speaker 3: or 50 years in with a plummeting birth rate, a
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: plummeting marriage rate, and this absolute mess on social media
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: between men and women. That's because they destroyed the Rosetta Stone.
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: Feminists went out with their freaking sledgehammer and said, huh,
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: that's a nice Rosetta Stone. Wouldn't it be a shame
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: if someone, whoops, I guess we broke it, ha ha ha. Like,
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: and then everything comes from that. All right, let's keep going.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: All right. Uh, number six. No, wait, is that where
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: it was?
• 57:13
  Speaker 3: Six?
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Let me just make sure. Yes. Number six, because he'll
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: debate my rights like they're a topic and not my
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: actual life. I've sat across from men who wanted to
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: just talk through abortion or trans rights or immigration. Like
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: it was a fun intellectual exercise and, A chance to
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: show off how well he can argue both sides. For me,
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: those are debate topics. They're Tuesday. I'm not interested in
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: dating a devil's advocate for my own personhood. Immigration? What
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: is that? Like, what? You're American. You're an American citizen. But,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: of course, again, she doesn't pay. This is all really
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: easy to do because it costs you nothing. To just
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: say these things. Oh, I care about the immigrants. Oh,
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: I care about the poor. Oh, I care about, you know,
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: the brown people. You're just saying that. Like, we know
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: you don't. It's just, it's completely, it's just an empty sentiment.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: It means nothing. Go ahead.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an empty sentiment. It means nothing. Also, their
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Tuesday is right out of freaking AI. That is 100%
• 58:18
  Speaker 3: an AI game. It's really freaking annoying. You'll notice this, guys.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: How many times people are now saying, like, it's Tuesday.
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: That was a Tuesday.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: They're Tuesday.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: It was Tuesday. That's right out of AI. AI, for
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, loves Tuesday. It might be a TV tropes thing. M.
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: Bison. It's M. Bison. The Street Fighter movie, M. Bison
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: does it. I think that's, and everybody joked about it
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: after that because Raul and Julia just killed it. And
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's why it shows up. And I bet
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: AI did pick up on that and basically doesn't know
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: where it came from, but just uses it. So yeah. Yeah.
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: And she says, I'm not interested in dating a devil's
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: advocate for my own personhood.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, lady, you don't need abortions.
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: You're not getting pregnant. You're not an immigrant and you're
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: probably not trans. How is any of this anything to
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: do with your personhood? She basically believes that, let me
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: translate this because it doesn't make any sense on its face.
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: Because again, none of those categories apply to her. How
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: can a man advocating for the categories that she has
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: no personal, like she has no personal relation to her
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: whatsoever be impacting her personhood? Because her personhood is her
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: position in the web.
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: Full stop.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: So if he actually threatens her position in the web,
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: which is how, she signals her position in the web
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: by beaking off about things she's never gonna do a
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: damn thing about. Virtue signaling about trans people, virtue signaling
• 59:58
  Speaker 3: about immigrants, virtue signaling about abortions she doesn't need. She
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 3: beaks off, this is her echolocating, or giving off the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 3: ping that indicates where she is in the relational web.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: And if you, as a man, you can't respect that.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: You don't respect her. Because she is literally her position
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: in the web. Nothing else but that. She only exists
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: in relation.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: To everyone else.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: And you can't threaten that. That's threatening her. That's what
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 3: it means. I'm translating this into womanese. Yep. Okay. Alright.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Um... Number seven. Going back to number six again, the
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: immigration thing is weird, but also you see how this
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: is like ever more marginalizing men's opinions on here where
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: you'll see like it starts off and it's like care
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: about my body, my choice. Then we get into, well,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: you don't like trans people. You have to agree with
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the LGBTQ stuff, the transes and all the queer theory stuff.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: And now we're getting into, now she drops in immigration.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: And the positions you have to hold go from, well,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: you know, I just want to avoid the conservatives. I
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: put that in quotes because I don't know what she
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: means by that, except people who disagree with me. And
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: then it goes to, well, you also can't be moderate
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: or indifferent. And now it's, well, you can't actually play
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: devil's advocate to the other side, even if the goal
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: is to steel man the position so you can explain
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: how best to take it down. You're not allowed to
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: do that because it's my humanity. It's my personhood that's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: under attack. You know, like, we can't look at this
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: objectively because my personhood. And again, it's not her. She's
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: not in any danger at all. She's an American citizen.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: She's not going to have kids. She's already had two.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: She's grown as hell. She's divorced. There's no man in
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: her life. So none of this applies to her. So
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: who is this for? I mean, like, it's got to
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: be for her audience. It's got to be for young
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: women that watch. She's, I mean, I can only assume
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: that she's trying to mate suppress those women. Just be like, well,
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make you a loser like me, and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: then I won't feel so bad about myself. So that's
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: all I can figure. All right, but anyway. Number seven,
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: because at his core, he doesn't believe I'm his equal.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: Not doesn't say it, doesn't believe it. He can be generous, funny,
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: even genuinely fond of me, and still carry a quiet
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: certainty that he is the more serious person in the room,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: the final word, the steadier judgment, the one whose instincts
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: get the benefit of the doubt when mine don't. He
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: will never look at anything I have seen, am, and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: still am become... Okay, let me start that one over.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: She wrote it weird. He will never look at anything
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: I have been, am, and am still becoming, and see
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: something equal to himself. And I'm not signing up to
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: spend my one life being almost seen by someone who's
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: already decided the ceiling on how far up he'll let
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: me stand.
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay. Yeah, but the thing is that all she
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: is is her position in the web, right? Yes. But
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: the other thing is that she's basically foreclosing on a man, period.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: You are absolutely right, Brian. Yeah, go ahead. Even any
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: man who does everything she says cannot actually get over
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: her standard for proof. Right. It's a category. What she's
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: saying is men are categorically in doing these things that
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: she says disqualifies men. So the category of man, right,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 3: he says that he believes she's his equal. Astounding. I
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 3: think the guy should probably get a perfect 10 for
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: mental gymnastics if he manages that.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Whatever.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: He says that she's my equal, but she knows. deep
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: inside him that he does not believe it. How does
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 3: he prove that he does? Brian, how does a man
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: get over that bar? The answer is he doesn't. Right?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: In fact, probably a conservative man would be better in
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 3: this circumstance than a liberal man. Because he just comes
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: out and says, yeah, these are my opinions. This is
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 3: what I believe. A liberal man tries to chase the monkey.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: I don't know what to call this. Like just tries
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: to chase her ever moving target and is always failing
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: because she is trying to decode the difference between what
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: he believes and what she knows men actually are. And
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: she will always default on what she thinks men actually are.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: So no matter how much these liberal men kiss her ass,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: tell her what she wants to hear, virtue signal, etc., etc., etc.,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: the fact that they are men puts them under suspicion
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: and that they can never clear. There is no standard
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 3: of proof sufficient to absolve them of being men. And
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: as soon as you accept that frame and start chasing it,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: you ruin whatever mate value you have as a man.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: That's it. Yep. If you agree with this woman, you
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 3: are fucked. You're not just fucked because of your political beliefs.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: You are fucked because you are now on the treadmill
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: of trying to prove to her the unprovable. Instead of saying, no,
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: your categorical assumptions about men are wrong, you are constantly
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: trying to prove you're not like those other men. But
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: what's the standard of proof? She needs to be able
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: to dissect your brain, sir. She needs to be able
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 3: to take it out of your skull and put it
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 3: on an autopsy's table. And use her ice pick to
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: go through every lobe and try to find the patriarchal
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: taint that she sure exists somewhere in it.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: That's the only possible way of rendering your innocence to her.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Proving your innocence to her. Allowing her to completely disassemble you.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: Or just don't play the game. Just stop it at
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: the gate. And she'll play this game with you while
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: you keep trying to tell her, no, I really do
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 3: believe you're equal. I do believe it. I believe you're
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: just as good as a woman. And she's like, no,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 3: I can't believe it. Oh, you're a man. You secretly.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Why would you? You can't win. You can only lose.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 3: This is a losing game.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: You know, and ironically, if men on the left updated
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 3: their freaking criticism of their economic criticism, like maybe start
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: to move away from the 18th century economics and start
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: to like update it and start going after the financial extractors,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: the fatberg, the fed backstop corporations and all this other crap.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 3: You know, you'd have a point. No offense to everybody else.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: But I think they would. It's just that they need
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: to update their thinking to get it into the 21st century, economic-wise. Right?
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: Because that's, I mean, if you look at the part
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: of the left that isn't the I hate men, it
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: is a bunch of men who are saying this is
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: a shit deal. And they're right.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: It is.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: It is a shit deal. But it's a shit deal
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: because of a whole bunch of economic factors. Like, it's
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: a shit deal, I hate to tell you, because Marx
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 3: killed the capitalist, and feminism killed the proletariat, and together
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: they cleared the frickin' field for the Apex Extractor, the
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: Fed backstopped Apex Extractor.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 3: That's why it's a huge shit deal. So why don't
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 3: you update your terms and your ideas to the 21st
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: century and start.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: Using that warrior energy against targets that actually exist now.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: That's what I have to say to the left, man.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: And stop playing these stupid games with these women. They
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: don't like you. They have categorically excluded you from personhood.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Stop listening to them. Letting them decide if you're a
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 3: man or not. Stop chasing their targets because all that
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: you get at the end of the day as a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: liberal man is something like a 28% less likelihood of
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 3: it being in a relationship with a woman relative to
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: a conservative and something like 17% relative to a moderate
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: is that what you want okay that's what I have
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: to say.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: All right I think.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: You're in it yes I'm trying to appeal to them.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: Yes Number eight, because a man who doesn't think I'm
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: his equal is never going to be a good lover.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: Of course, this isn't a stretch. It's just the same
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: belief showing up somewhere more private. If a man doesn't
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: see my pleasure as equal in importance to his, that's
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: not going to stay contained to policy and dinner table debates.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: It shows up in bed too. In whose finish is
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: the priority? Oh, in whose finish is the priority? Whose
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: needs get the follow-up question? Whose satisfaction is the goal
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: and whose is nice to have if there's time? A
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: man who believes women are lesser doesn't suddenly become generous
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: at the moment the lights go off. He just gets
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: more honest about it. That sounds like a personal experience, lady.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: I guess you let, you know, Pookie hit it and
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: he didn't call you back. And now you're like, it
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: must be because he's a conservative man. I'm going to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: write a whole blog about this.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: Ugh.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: I don't even.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, conservative men are... Are well known for being, you know,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: into the hookup culture.
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yes. Well into hookup culture. Exactly. Uh, this is just,
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what even just like it's incoherent.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: It's just incoherent. I'm mad. I'm going to write a
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: bunch of stuff. I'm mad. And I'm going to blame
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: men for everything. And I'm going to make a bullet
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: point list because people love listicles. I'm sorry.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm going to, this is flat out wrong. Um,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: The men's custodial nature is also something they bring to
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: their sex life. Don't ask how I know this, but
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: I'm doing a study for science. It's because feminists situated
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: the site of female oppression in heterosexuality. I'm like, okay, well,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: let's go there and see. Yeah, men are doing a
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 3: hell of a lot of work, a lot more than
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: they're women, generally, Right. So right off the bat, she's wrong.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: It's the no way.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like I'm thinking, how do you do sex equally?
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 3: Because somebody is going to be doing more work. And
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: even if it's equally between the two, at least you're.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 2: Going to have to take turns.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 3: It's how you do that. How do you how do
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: you have equal sex? By its definition, they are wolves.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: It's equality of outcome, Allison. I don't know. I think
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: she just wants to complain. I don't know what else
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: to say. She just wants to complain. Again, you're in
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: your 50s. How high energy is it, really? When the
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: opportunity comes along. Really? How intense is it? Come on. Um,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't, it's not, it's not about, it's
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: not about any of that though. It's just about like, it's,
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: it's just, again, she's just saying what she thinks these
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: young people want to hear. And I think that's who
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: it's for. And I mean, I can look at the
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: comments after and see if I'm right. If there's any
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: young people saying anything, but maybe that's her goal. I
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: don't know. But again, she's not living it. She's, she
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: was married. She let her husband left her or she
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: left him. I don't know. And I don't think I
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: could trust her to be a reliable narrator on telling
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: me the story. Um, and she has two daughters and
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: they're teenagers. And, uh, so she's done all the things
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: she's got kids. So what does she like ultimately telling
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: women to do is to like, not do what she's
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: done as most like, you know, was it Gloria Steinem
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: who passed away recently, who also had kids, I think,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: or she was definitely married. Maybe she didn't have kids.
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: Was that her prescription for women? No. So, like, what
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: is this? It's just intersexual competition.
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know. There's some things that my research has uncovered.
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: Like I said, that men bring their custodial disposition to
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 3: the bedroom, too. Conservatives are not going to be any different, right?
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know what she's thinking. And again, she's a
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: person who says that protection is hostility, right?
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Right. That protection is the synonym for hostility. Right. So
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 3: any custodial investment that a man makes into a woman,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: she will turn into some form of oppression. So, yeah.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: You remember the whole men treat women's orgasm like a
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 3: game thing? No.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: I don't remember that.
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 3: You don't? Okay. Oh, yeah.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: I know. I know what you mean. Yes, yes, yes.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Men feel like they've done their job or whatever their
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 3: duty when women orgasm, right? And they turn that into
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 3: oppression of women. Like that men feel good. So it's
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 3: really about men feeling good. So men taking responsibility for
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: their partner's pleasure is, again, guess what? Oppression of women. Right? Yep.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 3: So you just can't win. And again, she's basically foreclosing
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 3: any man being able to get through this series of
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 3: hoops ideologically. So she's not just talking about conservative men
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 3: being a bad in bed. She's basically talking about every man,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 3: any man who can't manage to somehow cerebro his way
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 3: through her crime minefield. Right. Every man who can't manage.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: That is bad in bed.
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: So I don't know. I guess that leaves her lesbians
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: and I was going to say dogs, but that's really gross.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 3: So I won't.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: Let's keep going.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: All right. I got a super chow from feminists emulating
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: brains for $ 5. And they say if feminists could analyze
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: and emulate brains to understand someone's mind, They will point
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 1: out that there was brain activity that revealed there was
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: a minor subconscious or passing thought that was not consistent
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: with their misandry. Passing thoughts are a case of the
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: patriarchy exerting control over women through telepathy. Okay.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 3: Of course.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Esoteric, but.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 3: I expect to see a whole new branch of feminist science.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: A whole new school, a new discipline. Yes.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: A new discipline.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: A hundred percent.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 3: Masculine miasma. The masculine miasma. The thought miasma.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Number nine. Because she wants a partner, but he votes
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: for a wife. There's a particular flavor of conservative man
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: who wants an equal in conversation and a subordinate in
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: the relationship. Someone smart enough to keep up at dinner
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: and compliant enough not to argue about who does the
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: second shift. I've watched women get quietly demoted from partner
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: to help me in the moment things got serious. I'm
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: not doing that again. So again, she's referring to her marriage.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Probably her husband just wanted to be like her to
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: like be at least somewhat agreeable or like not agreeable,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: but like cooperative. I don't know. I mean, my guess is,
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't think he was a look. If
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: she lived in Seattle, then he lived in Seattle. So
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: odds are he was probably pretty liberal. And she probably
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: just didn't think he was liberal enough. So, you know,
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: there you go.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: She never believed that his liberalism was genuine. Oh, yeah.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: Or she never believed that he was the right kind.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So probably what it was is that she would
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 3: grill him, try to get him to finally succeed in
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: getting through the thought crime minefield. And he would be like, please,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 3: can we just, I don't want to do this anymore.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 3: Can we just have a quiet evening? Oh, you want
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 3: me to be a helpmate. You want me to be submissive. You,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: you don't, you're saying that me yelling and, and abusing
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 3: you is if I am not allowed to do that,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 3: you're violating my bodily autonomy. And you just want to stop.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: You just want to step for wife. It's like, this
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: is where they're at.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: If a guy just wants peace from being nagged, then
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: what he really wants is to lobotomize her. He has
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: no personal boundaries that he can establish. All of these
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: things that she wants men to agree with are impositions
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: on men. You don't think this way. You think that way.
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: You think that patriarchy. You can't be a liberal man.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 3: You're really secretly a patriarch. Don't you know that any
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: expectation of me in this relationship is abuse, is controlling abuse?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 3: Like everything that she expects men to accommodate is an
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 3: accusation and an imposition on their own boundaries and their
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: own bodily autonomy. And if men draw any boundaries... No
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: matter how slight, they are part of the dread patriarchy
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: and probably secretly conservative. Okay.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: Let's just do 10. All right.
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: Number 10. 10, because trust isn't just about him. It's
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 1: about who he's, who he'd hand me over to dating
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: someone means. Yeah. Dating someone means eventually trusting the world
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: he's building alongside you. If he's building one where my
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: rights are negotiable, uh, My healthcare is a political football
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: and my daughters have fewer options than I did. I
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 1: don't care how charming he is at dinner. I'm not
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 1: signing up to live in this country. His vote is
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 1: trying to create. None of this is a liberal. Yeah,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: go ahead.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 3: Why do these liberal women have this persistent fantasy? There's
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 3: a whole bunch of like occult, like camouflaged conservative men
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: after them. Uh, Have you noticed that?
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, of course. They watch too much Handmaid's Tale.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is... No, it's just a... Look, they need
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: the newest... They need to be in a constant state
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: of existential fear so that they can write about it
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: and get money. They don't really believe... Like, I don't
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: think she really believes any of her rights are actually
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 1: in danger.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 3: Or.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: She really does, but there's absolutely no evidence for any
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 1: of it at all. But she still has to keep
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: saying there is because she's already started writing about it. So, yeah,
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: it could be sexual, but I don't know. I mean,
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: I think if it is, it's extremely irresponsible to do
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: stuff like this. Because you're making... These are the kinds
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: of allegations that get people assassinated. Even though she would say, well,
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 1: I'm against all that. It doesn't matter. You're dehumanizing half
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: the population. And you claim that you're not, but you are,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 1: because no man could meet your standards. And the ones
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: that do, you probably hate them for different reasons. And
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: you're dehumanizing them constantly. So if somebody does take the law,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: take something into their own hands, that's going to happen.
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, like, think about it. The abortion issue... is
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: one of the reasons why there are so many women
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: defending the woman who strangled her post-birth children. Because the
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: abortion issue for them just means killing your children and
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: the right to do that, regardless of whether it's inside
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: of you or outside of you. And I know that's
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: a really dark thing to consider, but I think there's
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: a lot of truth there. And I think men in
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: the home are the reason, the one thing that stops
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: that from happening to children. And so when they start
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 1: talking about abortion, it becomes a bit gray because a
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: lot of people are like, well, I think there's reasons
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: for it. They give you all of the exceptions, like
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: the outlier reasons. Oh, it could kill the mother. Oh,
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 1: the baby could have this or that problem, yada, yada.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: And then if those stop working, because nobody is against
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: any of that, even now that there's like, you know,
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: Roe v. Wade's been overturned or whatever, no one's saying
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: abortion is murder even at the earliest trimesters. That's not
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: even a conversation that's happening. If anything, it's in the
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 1: complete opposite direction. A lot of states are basically trying
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: to push for up to and including birth abortions. I
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: think it was in one of the New England states,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: a woman signed into law as something that allowed abortion
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: up to nine months. But it's not about that, because
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: that's not enough. Once you have done that, you have
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: dehumanized babies. You have basically made the unborn not human,
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 1: which they have been doing. They've called it a tumor.
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 1: They've called it a parasite. They've called it all kinds
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: of things to justify abortions. And even if you were
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: totally fine with abortion, now we're doing it after birth
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: where you, where you kill the kids. It's like, well,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: the husband did something or the it's, it's big farmer's
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: fault or whatever, but ultimately they're supporting this because it's
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: just another abortion to them. It's just later. It's so like,
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: and then you have to ask how long have women
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: been wanting to do these things? How long have they
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: been okay with this? Because yeah, it's the current moral
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: panic that, But this is not a new sentiment, I
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: don't think, because it's been normalized already enough that, you know, oh, just,
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 1: what is he, like three years old? Wow, he's really annoying.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: Why don't you just take him out? I think that
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: we have gotten to the point we're so desensitized to
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: killing babies that when it happens outside the womb, well
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: after the child's born, we just try to find reasons
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: to excuse it. We're all, well, you know, and of course, yeah,
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: it has to be the woman doing the deed in
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: order for it to count. Because if a man does it,
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 1: everyone's going to be like, yeah, let's turn this into
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: a public execution. I want this, you know, streamed to
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: YouTube and Twitch. That's not going to happen with, I mean,
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 1: they've already got a mistrial. She's probably going to walk.
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: And I think it's going to, well, I think it's
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: going to be a really radicalizing force for a lot
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: of people. But my point is, is that this woman...
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: doesn't actually care about any of the things she says
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: she cares about. She wants other people to see, especially
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: other women, she wants them to see that she cares,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: so she's saying these things, but she pays no price,
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 1: she risks nothing at all by just saying this. And
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: the reason why we have grown to accept this is
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: because we have normalized abortion to the point where it
• 1:24:33
  Speaker 1: is now. So, anyway. I got a super chow from,
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 1: is this the operative modality at work for $ 5? And
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: they say, based on Allison's research, her ex-husband is likely
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: a multimillionaire, and he was trying to get her to
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: listen to his model about the world to make sure
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 1: things work, since he likely manages his own business or
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: a significant chunk of another's business, to make sure things
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: stay operational. She was upset that he was trying to
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: mansplain so she felt, and she was, inferior. Male complacent
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: competency for the win.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Are you talking.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: About this woman? This woman who wrote this article?
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes. He's saying that somehow her husband made her
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 3: feel inferior. Yes. These women accuse other people when they
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 3: feel something. So if her husband made her feel like
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: she was recognizing that he had a competency and he
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: wasn't backing down on it. Right. And he was making
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 3: her feel inferior. Then she is going to read the
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: intent there that that was what he intended to do.
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: This is what's infuriating. That's exactly what happened with the
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: red stockings and the early feminism. Women felt resentful. Right. Right.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: And instead of asking, oh, hey, is this a reasonable
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 3: feeling in response to being given the greatest amount of
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 3: leisure and safety in all of human history? They said,
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: because men are making us feel resentful, they intend to
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 3: create resentment in us. Why would they be doing this?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 3: They must want to oppress us. They must want to
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: create these negative feelings in us. these horrible negative feelings
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: that the problem with no name. That's exactly, it's like
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 3: that argument we had with Natty months ago. And she
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: accused me of intimidate, of wanting to intimidate her.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I'm like, what, where the hell?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: I didn't even, I didn't even, at the time, I
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: didn't even dignify it with a response, but that's exactly it.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 3: I intimidated her because I'm, Okay, this is going to
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 3: sound really arrogant, but I think that there's several standard
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: deviations of intelligence between me and her. I intimidated her. Therefore,
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 3: I intended to intimidate her. When her being intimidated by
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 3: me is just an offshoot of our relative capabilities and competencies.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 3: But she insisted that I intended to intimidate her. Because
• 1:27:26
  Speaker 3: she felt intimidated by me. How do you deal with
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 3: people who think that way? This is my question. So yes,
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 3: this woman probably felt inferior to her husband and thus
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 3: concluded he intended to make her feel inferior. So guys,
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 3: don't cultivate any skills or abilities or hobbies or excellences.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 3: They might make your women feel inferior and then you
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: intend to make them feel inferior. And Gosh darn it,
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: if they don't divorce you, then they're just an abused woman.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 3: The only way that you deal with this massive amount
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: of absolute mental fuckery is to explicitly say, women submit
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 3: to men.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: That's it.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: That just gives men a chance. And I swear the
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 3: reason why Christians did this is because men... don't they
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: if men are in power they're just like yeah okay
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 3: now we can have some peace let's have a nice
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 3: evening in we'll have some tea we'll i'll read the
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 3: paper you'll read your freaking and we'll just sit in quiet, nice,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 3: companionable silence.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm using my great male superiority and power
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 3: as vested in me by God for. Because they don't want... Like,
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 3: men don't want this dominance hierarchy, generally.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: They just want peace. Peace. That's why it's safe to
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 3: give them the whole thing. Yeah, women submit to men
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: because men don't care. Generally, unless they're, like, Gorian fans. Right?
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: They just don't care. That just ends it.
• 1:29:10
  Speaker 2: It just ends the whole thing.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 3: Just ends it. Okay, submit to your husband. I submit
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 3: to you, my husband.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: What do you want?
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Just relax. Do whatever you want. Just don't make trouble.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: Don't kill your kids. Don't kill our kids. That's it.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: It's just peace.
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: It's where all the relational web posturing goes to die.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Did you intend to make me feel inferior, my husband? No,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 3: I did not. Please submit to my judgment now as
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 3: my wife. Okay. I guess I can let go of
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 3: that resentment. Okay, like that's, I think it's actually, the
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 3: more that I think about it, the more wise it
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: seems to the ways of human relationships. It was never
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: about some kind of like mustache twirling, I've got her now,
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: kind of bullshit. It was just, this is how you
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 3: keep marital harmony, right? This is how you just let
• 1:30:19
  Speaker 3: things settle. This is how you end the conflict the quickest.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 3: Whatever he says, whatever the husband says is probably correct.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 3: Submit to it. Did you intend to cheat.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 2: On me with my dreams?
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 3: No, I did not.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, you're right.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: Yep. Did you look at my friend's ass?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, but if I did, it didn't mean anything. Okay,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 3: all right.
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: It's like, that's it.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: It should be, but no. All right, so let's close
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: it out. None of this is about disagreeing over tax brackets.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: I can date someone with different opinions about infrastructure spending. Yeah,
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 1: I seriously doubt that. What I can't do is date
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 1: someone whose politics are actively hostile to my existence and
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 1: call it a difference of opinion. Some positions aren't personality quirks.
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: They're a preview. I'm not asking for a saint. I'm
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: asking for a man whose politics don't require me to
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 1: argue for my own humanity before dessert. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: That's the end of the article. I'm dying inside.
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: Literally, a man must submit to how she sees the world.
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and no one in the chat comments are disagreeing,
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: including a lot of men. A lot of men. They're like, oh, please,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: can I have another? Please, ma'am. Oh, God.
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: God, I... Leftist men, could you please just... Find your balls. Right...
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 3: At some point in history, you used to stand for something.
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: Not just self-hatred.
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 3: You used to stand for criticizing things that actually mattered.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 3: Like shit like the company script.
• 1:32:13
  Speaker 2: And other.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: Of the Pinkertons. And other shit like that. Now what
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 3: do you stand for? Bending over and getting pegged by
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 3: liberal women?
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: Anyway. Alright, shall we.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sure. Yeah, we've gone through the article. So, yeah,
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: we can do the game. So, is Jonathan going to
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: be joining us?
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: I believe so. I can double check here.
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, double check to see if he's around. I don't
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 1: see him online. I see you.
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: I just came online. Wait, wait, which.
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I see you coming online, Direhawk. Yeah. I don't
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: see Jonathan coming online, is what I'm saying.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 3: Okay, all right. Well, hello?
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 1: I'm going to stop. Yeah, I'm here. I just stopped
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: sharing my screen because we're not looking at it anymore. Okay.
• 1:33:12
  Speaker 1: Are you there? Oh, yeah, that's what this one was.
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was me.
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 1: Closing that window. That's fine. So we're going to start
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: over from level one, and.
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I'll just invite people. Let me see. Can I
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: do a new game?
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yes.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 3: Okay, why can't I get out of here? Okay, I'm just...
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 3: I'm trying... I'll locate him.
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no problem. Sorry about this. It's okay.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 2: Actually, what I'll do first is.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 3: I will change this. Um... Okay, can you hear me?
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: Yes, I can hear you.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 3: Excellent.
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: This is like a lot of stuff that I have
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine. Are you.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I'm doing it.
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 3: I'm doing it.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 3: I'm setting up sound and everything. All right. I will
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 3: try to locate my husband, too. Yeah, there's like... I'm
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: arguing with this.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: Are you arguing still?
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, with a conservative about Lindsay Clancy. Because some guy
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 3: did this tweet where he said if Patrick Clancy had
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: been able to beat Lindsay Clancy, this wouldn't have happened
• 1:34:46
  Speaker 3: or something.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 1: What? Dude, that's got to be a troll. Well, probably
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 1: it is.
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 3: But the thing is that he's basically saying if men
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 3: had the ability to do corporal punishment of their wives,
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 3: then they would be able to control this kind of behavior,
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: which is not... I would say if men had the
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 3: ability to get 50-50 custody on divorce and be believed
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: when they say that women are being abusive, specifically abusive
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: to their children, that would be... how we actually stop
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: stuff like this from happening. But my problem with this
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 3: woman is she keeps stripping out the context. Because what
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 3: he's basically saying is if there's a choice between this
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: woman killing her kids or him being able to use
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 3: corporal punishment to prevent it, well, how can you argue
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: against it? And again, it is creating a false dichotomy,
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 3: but there's a context there that she keeps stripping. And
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: now she's just getting personal. It's really... Really annoying. I
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: know it's not the best example. You're probably right. It's
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: probably a troll.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't think that anybody... I don't.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 3: Think any men agree with that.
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think men... Well, why would they want
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 1: to do that? Men are less likely to hit their kids.
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: Why would they hit their wife? This is just pushing...
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 1: It's basically just validating that myth that all domestic violence
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: is just wife-beating. That just, I'm sorry, that just doesn't
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: happen at the same, it doesn't happen the way that
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: they say. And so anybody who says, well, if you
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 1: could just beat her up, that wouldn't happen. They're either
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: joking or they're intentionally trying to like create like an artificial,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, like an artificial violent narrative. Like, oh,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: look at the people in your comment section talking about beating,
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: you know, women or whatever. Nobody wants to do that.
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: What we want is for women to fucking act like adults.
• 1:36:47
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm asking. Can we do that?
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: Is that okay? Can we do that? Okay, let's do that.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: If you can't act like adults, then, you know, we're
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: going to treat you like children. But that doesn't mean, again,
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  Speaker 1: men don't even hit children, really. So, yeah, this is all.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, it's actually men are generally the least
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  Speaker 3: likely to abuse their children.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I think the point was just a very aggressive way
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  Speaker 3: of saying that if men had the ability to have
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 3: any kind of control over their women, this wouldn't have happened. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Right? Yes.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Of course there are low– look, OIC said, I think
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  Speaker 1: there are low IQ men who think violence is a
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  Speaker 1: blanket solution. Of course those guys exist, but do you
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  Speaker 1: think they're in like a comment section on a YouTube video?
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  Speaker 3: No.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think so. So, like, that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: This person is not them. Yes, that happens. Yes. Most
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: of the time, domestic violence is bidirectional. Most of the time.
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  Speaker 1: It's just, I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's actually not bidirectional. Most of the time, it's, well,
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  Speaker 3: it's unidirectional most of the time. Well, no, it's 50-50.
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  Speaker 3: Bidirectional 50% of the time. uh, unidirectional 50% of the
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 3: time and 75% of the time it's unidirectional. It's woman
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  Speaker 3: to man.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. And it's initiated by women. Even when it's bidirectional,
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  Speaker 1: they started.
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  Speaker 3: Mostly initiated by women when it's bidirectional.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So it's, it's, it's actually, um, also interesting because I
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  Speaker 3: think it would take a lot for most men to
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: actually get aggressive towards their women in the first place. Um,
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  Speaker 3: okay i see red nova on
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  Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah he is i see him i see
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  Speaker 1: him too all right i'm gonna invite uh everybody and
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  Speaker 1: uh