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Why SpidaCrazy8 Is More Than Music · Story Scaling

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Story Scaling by PodcastVideoscom, where creators share the truth behind the content, the grind and the growth.
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  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, this is Bang and we are back with another episode of Story Scaling.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I never know which camera to look at.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just looking at everyone.
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  Speaker 1: I've been looking at all of them.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with the episode of Story Scaling.
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  Speaker 1: I got a great brother in the building today.
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  Speaker 1: It's going to be a fire episode.
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  Speaker 1: I with the episode of story scaling.
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  Speaker 1: I got a great brother in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Today it's gonna be a fire episode.
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  Speaker 1: I am with spider, crazy eight man, uh, man with many hats, you know, tell me how y'all doing, spider, I'm about to thank you for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: First and foremost, bro.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm super excited to have you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm about to read this bio.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so just don't get it wrong man, they get it wrong they.
• 0:42
  Speaker 2: They be getting it wrong a lot man that's.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm reading it to you for.
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  Speaker 1: I'm reading this to you.
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  Speaker 1: This is this is my brain thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I went to, I went online, did some research, yeah, and so if it's anything in here that needs to be changed, then you let me know.
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  Speaker 1: I got you all right.
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  Speaker 1: I got you.
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  Speaker 1: So we going spider crazy eight is a driving force behind arkansas hip-hop scene.
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  Speaker 1: Based in northwest arkansas by way of Vicksburg, mississippi, spider has carved out a reputation as an artist manager, event promoter, interviewer and trusted voice in the independent music community.
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  Speaker 1: Whether he's organizing packed-out album release shows, managing emerging entertainment or stepping on stage to emcee or interview, spider shows up with the same purpose to elevate others.
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  Speaker 1: His work spans interviews with local and national legends, curating major shows alongside djs as sponsors, and representing hip-hop voices and conversations about arkansas's growing creative economy.
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  Speaker 1: Spider doesn't just move through the scene, he moves it forward from the mic to the green room, to the planet table.
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  Speaker 1: He's built a platform that celebrates culture, community and the power of real connection that's, that's perfect.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, you said you got, you hit it on the head round.
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  Speaker 1: Of come on, we can clap that up we can clap that up midway through.
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  Speaker 2: I was like man chat, chat gbt is.
• 2:02
  Speaker 2: I said I'll say it's me and I asked both of them bro.
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  Speaker 1: Midway through I was like man ChatGPT is hey, jim, jim, jim, jim, jim, jim.
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  Speaker 1: I said it's me and I asked for AI help.
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  Speaker 1: It was both of us, bro.
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  Speaker 1: It was both of us Because I'm going to say it one way, but the AI going to put the little sauce on it.
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  Speaker 2: Look, I know you where you need to be at.
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: I liked it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: That was real good.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: Good, that's the best one I had so far.
• 2:26
  Speaker 2: I need to steal that so I can send it out.
• 2:27
  Speaker 2: I'll send it to you.
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  Speaker 2: See me, see me that that's perfect.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I I had a, a buddy of mine that I interviewed before you and he said I don't hear many people speak about me in this way because he just used to doing the work head down and he, I guess he don't go in spaces where he feels super celebrated, and so that's what I try to do.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: I try to make sure that it's like nah, this person is doing all of these things.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, when you hear a bio like that, what stands out to you?
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: Because you are an artist yourself, you do promote events, you are a connector, you do manage talent.
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  Speaker 1: It's you are.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying you do radio, the list goes on and on.
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  Speaker 1: So when you hear stuff like that, what?
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  Speaker 2: stands out to you first.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, the biggest thing that stands out to me personally is like man.
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  Speaker 2: I don't really realize what all I do and and I'm not necessarily doing it for the title or the bio, I'm doing this because this is what I really want to do.
• 3:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the biggest thing, it's like man, when, when you say like two or three lines, it's like man, I am really doing that.
• 3:22
  Speaker 2: You know, it makes me proud of myself in a different light.
• 3:26
  Speaker 2: You know, because I I hear people that give me credit.
• 3:30
  Speaker 2: You know I people who discredit me but like to hear it in in such a context, in different form and other than spot you really doing it right, you got clout or like even more, like the slang way, just to hear it in professional ways dope.
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: You know this is, you know I.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I want to hear if we in a gala and and people are just getting these speeches or they're getting tired, I want to hear somebody speak like that.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: That's not proud, that it, it's possible.
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  Speaker 2: You know what I'm talking about.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate that?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, bro.
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  Speaker 1: So let's talk about spider, let's go to the, the beginning I'm talking about from the name to the everything, the everything, the persona, the person behind the name.
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  Speaker 1: Did you start with music?
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  Speaker 1: Did you start with cunt like?
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  Speaker 2: let's talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Take us back, man.
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  Speaker 2: Um, everything started, uh, sports.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, spider wanted to be a ball player.
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  Speaker 2: Um, and spider didn't know what he wanted to be a lot of his life, even as a kid, I don't have a lot of memories of just what I wanted to be.
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  Speaker 2: I just wanted to do something and I knew that I had to work hard to do it.
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  Speaker 2: So, whatever I decided, when I decided it, I did it.
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  Speaker 2: At some points in time in my life I just wanted to be the manager of where I was at.
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  Speaker 2: So, uh, one of my first jobs was, uh, kroger's and I was.
• 4:50
  Speaker 2: I wanted to be the best.
• 4:51
  Speaker 2: Uh, buggy pushing yeah, that we that we got and bagging groceries.
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  Speaker 2: I was the best.
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  Speaker 2: I want me and the guys who just have competitions and like, I wanted my boss to know that when, if it was a rush during christmas, you can count on spider to come and do his thing.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, I wasn't necessarily Spider in my job, I was just Octavius, especially throughout school.
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  Speaker 2: Spider came really when I was looking for more like an identity in school, but really when I was looking for more like an identity in school when I was in school, which was a very long time ago it was, people were really into like cartoon characters.
• 5:32
  Speaker 2: Spongebob was really big, and so I seen everybody doing all those things.
• 5:38
  Speaker 2: It was like man, I'm going to take Spider-Man, I'm going to make Spider-Man the dope thing.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to wear Spider-Man, Nobody else is doing it.
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  Speaker 2: T backpack yeah, yeah, all that birthday parties themed around it.
• 5:50
  Speaker 2: You know, call me spider.
• 5:51
  Speaker 2: That it translated really good with playing basketball, because I was short and and I've put that same effort into playing basketball, even though I wasn't as great as I could be, I would do things smart.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like okay, how can I beat this guy who's three, four, three, three feet taller than me?
• 6:09
  Speaker 2: And so, like I, I jumped really well.
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  Speaker 2: So it's like okay, you are like a spider, you know, saying so that kind of.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: That's kind of like what was going on.
• 6:17
  Speaker 2: Um, so after school, um, I went to work and basically that's what's what I was like man, I'm not probably going to play basketball because I'm pretty short and I wasn't really good at school.
• 6:36
  Speaker 2: Like the thought process of going to school, studying and things like that wasn't really my thing, but I could comprehend very well.
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  Speaker 2: I can go to a classroom and just listen and then I can pass a test.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: So I kind of just I don't know what's taking this as serious as I should have.
• 6:55
  Speaker 2: Sorry, I dropped out and I got my gd okay and so it was like okay, what do you do now?
• 7:00
  Speaker 2: What you're like all right, you got a job at the sonic and I was working there throughout the process of getting my GED and really good people person Like people will come back at that car, hop to that car and tell that were requesting me be the guy who bring them their drinks and things like that people.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: It got a real good report.
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  Speaker 2: Manager caught on there made me a manager.
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  Speaker 2: I'm barely 18 years old and I'm managing people who are 30 w age.
• 7:31
  Speaker 2: They didn't like that and I had to handle that hostile environment.
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  Speaker 2: I had to come in there with confidence as a young guy and control that environment and still do a good enough job to make my manager look good for actually doing it Absolutely.
• 7:44
  Speaker 2: And so I think that experience earlier for me was so big.
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: Even now to this day, understanding how big that moment was for me was huge.
• 7:57
  Speaker 2: But still, I was just 18.
• 8:00
  Speaker 2: There's so many other things I wanted to do with life, so many things that I haven't experienced at all in life, and so, like I ended up saying I mean whatever to the job you know.
• 8:11
  Speaker 2: And I ended up moving to Atlanta and just to experience something different.
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: You know, I've been in Mississippi my whole life.
• 8:17
  Speaker 2: Moving to Atlanta and just to experience something different.
• 8:19
  Speaker 2: You know I've been in Mississippi my whole life and so I left, uh went out there to Atlanta just thinking like, okay, whatever you know, and uh try things in Atlanta for a little while.
• 8:26
  Speaker 2: What are you looking for in Atlanta?
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: Are you like just just living?
• 8:30
  Speaker 2: At this point I would.
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: I I wasn't really into partying and things like that.
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: It was just like experiencing literally something different than mississippi, something different, you know, uh, and that's literally it, and I still didn't know too much about life.
• 8:45
  Speaker 2: I just moved out, like with my mom and stuff, so like it wasn't about oh, they live in area.
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: It wasn't about if was it safe it.
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  Speaker 2: It literally had nothing to do with nothing.
• 8:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did it, and, and, but I do with nothing.
• 8:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I did it, and, but I was just by myself and I was just experiencing things.
• 9:01
  Speaker 2: So um went to atlanta just to live no, I didn't care about doing music at all during this time and um, and I was just like I'm about what, 19 going on, going on 20, something like that.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Right on that job.
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  Speaker 2: And moved to Atlanta, lived there for a little while, understood how life could be different.
• 9:23
  Speaker 2: And then I came back and I got my job back at Sonic and started working there again and I had a little more understanding of just life after that and how not to take advantage or certain things for granted, uh.
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: So I came back, got boots on the ground with that and worked there for a little while and then, uh, things start.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: I think around that time that's when things started getting kind of.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: You start prices of stuff start going up.
• 9:55
  Speaker 2: Things weren't the same.
• 9:56
  Speaker 2: I didn't know at that time, still being a kid, the first place I moved out to after my mom was with my dad and my dad had got a house and he allowed me and my stepbrothers to stay there.
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: Still, throughout this whole time still a kid, and I'm still not knowing how to be an adult I didn't understand how to go get my own apartment.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: I didn't know what to do, how to turn on your own lights, yeah, and but I'm doing so much grown folk stuff besides real crawlers and it's like I jumped off the porch way too early and um, so, as I was living with friends, uh, living in other situations that'll come to dead ends this whole entire time.
• 10:39
  Speaker 2: You know other people having I'm staying with my homeboy and him, his girlfriend, get into it and now it's all blown up and I'm thinking that's the way of life you know, and so it's all like a shock to me at that time.
• 10:51
  Speaker 2: But all valuable information that you wouldn't know even if you did everything the right way.
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: Right, you need to know these things absolutely, and so I learned that stuff early.
• 11:00
  Speaker 2: And then, um, it got to a point where, like, things wasn't going as well with my manager at the sonic job.
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: Are you in mississippi at this time?
• 11:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're back in mississippi.
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: Okay, back in mississippi, I moved back.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: You know things, I never really quite got it going in Atlanta.
• 11:18
  Speaker 2: Okay, never really.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: It didn't last long, yeah, but it just was an experience.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Uh, back to Mississippi, back to my old job, thinking, okay, all right, let's do it better this time.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: Still not understanding that things can go downhill based off somebody else's decision like I'm doing good, but my manager, the one that got me the position they ain't doing good, and so they come through and she gets fired and now it's like, okay, well, we don't need you to do this, no more, we're a crush.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Like, oh, man, it can end that fast, that quick.
• 11:53
  Speaker 2: But during this time I had a friend that I grew up in Mississippi with that moved to Arkansas, and he always used to call me and be like hey, you need to come up here, you need to come up here.
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, you know.
• 12:07
  Speaker 2: And like for a year I blew it off, like it's like whatever, bro, I'm living the life, I can be everywhere, I get to play ball on the streets, I get to go to work, I'm making money, like, and I'm by myself.
• 12:20
  Speaker 2: Like, why leave this when to go to something I don't know?
• 12:24
  Speaker 2: Right, just did that when I went to Atlanta.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I was deaf, scared of it, you know, but they just hit the.
• 12:30
  Speaker 2: You know, shit hit the fan.
• 12:32
  Speaker 2: Things weren't going the way that I planned and I called him.
• 12:35
  Speaker 2: I was like you know what, bro, I'm not gonna.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take you up on it why?
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: And so when I got to Arkansas and you think about all this stuff that I just did I got here and and, and I had the, the drive.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: I had learned that stuff don't last long.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: I learned how to take advantage of opportunity.
• 12:56
  Speaker 2: And so when I got here, I had got that stuff don't last long.
• 12:58
  Speaker 2: I learned how to take advantage of opportunity.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: And so when I got here, I had got a job at Walmart, like in less than two days.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: I walked to my interview and walked back home.
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: Because I knew it could change in a minute.
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: I'm here with my friend and, yeah, I could have a great time and it could be cool, but him and his girl can get into it tomorrow and, like, I don't know what I'm gonna do, I just left mississippi.
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I can't afford that.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: I gotta go get everything that I need to right now, yeah.
• 13:27
  Speaker 2: And so I started doing that.
• 13:29
  Speaker 2: And then I started meeting people.
• 13:31
  Speaker 2: I was.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: I got the one of the craziest jobs and one of the best jobs for a person like spider.
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: I got a job at the electronics when the electronics was the electronics at walmart, right you?
• 13:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all remember what that was, but it used to be where you wanted to go as a kid, absolutely just to play the game and all of that good stuff right there on the spot I got me being that guy knowing cell phones, knowing how to work electronics when they wasn't as crazy as they are now.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a perfect job for me yeah.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: I was speaking everybody's language when they came back.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: You don't know how to work a phone.
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: It was my job to teach you how to work a phone and like they love me at Walmart for that, so got to meeting people.
• 14:12
  Speaker 2: Difference between Arkansas and Mississippi, uh, was diversity.
• 14:18
  Speaker 2: I I never knew how much I needed to be around different people.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: In Mississippi I was on around a lot of black people, you know I'm saying, and like they were black people, you know, like they didn't understand other cultures that really care about it, and so I got the chance to be like more myself that I didn't know I needed to be here in Arkansas at Walmart, where everybody come.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know, but it's a difference in Walmarts depending on the cities.
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: In Springdale, where I was working at, it was a lot Hispanic, and so I got to actually not only be around just like more, more you know whites, and I got to learn what a marshall lee was.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: I got to learn like like some spanish and I never had experienced that before and like you know what's happening, oh, they'll pull you free though.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that, that, yeah, I tried to put you on the spot.
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: You're doing something.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, I bet I can't keep it over and just like even just understanding that they understand me was more big than than anything I could learn from now.
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: They understood black culture and and I was taught that they they don't care.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: So it's like, hey, hey, spider, yeah, you're just a regular guy just like we are.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: We don't look at you like you're a black person and you do black stuff, and so understanding that it's like, okay, yeah, so that was Walmart experience, same there as Sonic, so good with the customers and getting so many good reviews.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: I become a customer service manager and now I'm doing I'm, I'm barely 21.
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: At that point, I'm and I'm making sure I'm telling like people twice my age when to go on break yeah, and I haven't been there that long.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's, it's.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: And still at that time, I'm not caring.
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking that I even got like a crazy position that people in their whole lifetime would never get.
• 16:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just thinking that only this was supposed to happen, because it's already.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: This is what keeps happening.
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and so it's like all right, I'm a manager, I've been before this.
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: There's nothing, I deserve this.
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know what I'm doing and you know the things that go on in life that you, you can't expect.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: But you know, I don't know if everybody goes doing like heartbreaks um, trial and tribulations, car problems, things like that.
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: I'm experiencing all that doing this and I'm by myself no family members here, things like that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: During that time where I should have been so locked in on just being a person in a Walmart space to grow At that age I would have been crazy big as just a Walmart guy at that time.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about that until years later and so fast forward.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: I met a couple of people here I actually just was like locking in with.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: Now this is my new family, a guy named TJ Andrews, really in at the turning point of music, and so um, met him, you know, did things with them like hang out, boy stuff.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: We, we got a duplex where it was, we call it the plex, there's bachelor pad basically and um, and they were doing cool stuff that, like I never experienced in Mississippi.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: So I kind of, like I don't know, threw my job away at Walmart.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: You know, just like I said chasing female girlfriend that I wanted to be with that time, wanting to party with the guys and hang with the guys, they having fun, they're still like living like a 21-year year old is living, and I'm living like I'm 30, right, and so it's like you know, but that's the only mindset I have, the only thing I think of.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: And so I tried out a bunch of different things.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: I left walmart, um, and I went and did other things.
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: I did security for a minute.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: I also worked, um at a job called asn, and it's more like you help out people who are in in this world, who you try to make them feel as normal as possible when they have, like mental disability.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, and so, like I, I experienced that.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Uh, I say I was a security guard at tyson for a minute, but at this whole time I'm meeting.
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: At this whole time I'm meeting people, I'm working and I'm meeting people, not consciously thinking about what is really going on, but this is going on, all right.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: So fast forward to TJ.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Tj had this group called Flow Game and he was like really big basketball player at Springdale High, him, and he knew everybody.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Everybody knew TJ.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: People loved TJ and he rappeded and it was like it was things.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: I, of course, I enjoy music.
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: I love music, right.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I didn't think about doing it I and I didn't even know where to go do it, especially when doing all this time, when we're doing all the other stuff that I just talked about.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: But tj had made cds and he knew I'd do stuff and I said, all right, I'm gonna help you guys with this, I'm going to help manage your group.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: And so I was helping manage a flow game, which was the group at the time, and that's what got me into doing music.
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: What year were we talking?
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: It was a while ago, okay, I don't know exactly what year 2010, 2015?
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: , something like that.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: It could be that 2010, 2011 thing in that area.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: Right there, if I go back in my phone, because I had an iPhone and everything is documented in my phone, okay, cool, I can go back in whenever I want to.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: To figure it out.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: It's not super pertinent, I'm just saying for the sake of the story it's good to kind of keep along.
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: You know you've been on this journey for a minute, For a while yeah, yeah, so, yeah then.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: And so, tj, I was just managing the flow game and I'm like a problem solver basically and these guys was extremely talented.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: They were really good, they were doing things that I only thought that you can and this is before the internet you know like how regular people can rap a person that I know can be just as good as drake right now, yeah, and make a song that I like that is just as good as drake.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I want to sing this guy's song.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: That was blowing my mind, right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: I never knew that there was something that was even possible, because at that time, like I said, you only heard music on the radio yeah, there was no spotify and things.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Like you only heard the cds and the stuff that your mom played, yeah, or that you seen on mtv and beach yeah, the blogger era back, when it wasn't a song on every single phone and you couldn't stream.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Like it was.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: It was it and I was like I got introduced to what a local artist was and I and and and how much they can really put out music that other people like people was liking tj's stuff and things like that.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: He had a fan base and and I was like man, I just want to be a part of that.
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: Outro Music.