Latest / Moser, Lombardi and Kane / 3-10-26 Hour 1 - Nugs Lose to OKC...AGAIN/Disappointed by no Broncos moves?/AFC West teams making moves
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is Mosher, Lombardy and Kane on demand. Listen live
- 0:05Speaker 1: every weekday morning from seven to ten on Altitude Sports
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- 0:19Speaker 2: Thunder Basketball For the game winner, high right side is Alexander.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Four seconds for the jumper.
- 0:25Speaker 4: Got it.
- 0:27Speaker 2: Two point seven seconds left for Denver Nuggets need a
- 0:30Speaker 2: three pounder to tie Gordon from Deep No Good and
- 0:35Speaker 2: the Thunder sliver out of their own marina with a victory.
- 0:40Speaker 2: Final tonight from the Methodome one twenty nine to one
- 0:45Speaker 2: twenty six Thunder over the Denver Nuggets.
- 0:49Speaker 3: I didn't think that's what hurt us.
- 0:50Speaker 5: I thought it was just their runouts, their pace compared
- 0:53Speaker 5: to ours, and I think we got frustrated the fact
- 0:55Speaker 5: we missed some easy shots around the rim, and you
- 0:58Speaker 5: can't do that. You have to team to play the game.
- 1:00Speaker 5: Uh So we got to the six minute mark. We
- 1:02Speaker 5: were lucky to only be down a few because we
- 1:05Speaker 5: didn't play well enough. And in games like this, because
- 1:07Speaker 5: teams this good, you can't have lulls of six minutes.
- 1:13Speaker 6: That's it, all right, So a lot to do this
- 1:18Speaker 6: this morning. NFL free agency opens up yesterday and the
- 1:22Speaker 6: Broncos took the approach of twittle thumbs for twenty four hours,
- 1:27Speaker 6: so we'll see if that changes. But I want to
- 1:31Speaker 6: put that on the back burner for a second because
- 1:35Speaker 6: I can't do it again. I know it's close, and hey,
- 1:39Speaker 6: you're right there in the game, and you almost bet
- 1:41Speaker 6: I can't. I can't do that that again, like it's
- 1:44Speaker 6: time to win.
- 1:45Speaker 7: See, I feel like doing that though today. I don't
- 1:48Speaker 7: disagree with you, but I feel like doing that today,
- 1:52Speaker 7: and I think Vic, the only reason that.
- 1:54Speaker 4: I feel that way.
- 1:55Speaker 7: I hate the loss and Sha made I feel like
- 1:58Speaker 7: a d when Joker makes those shots. Shay made two
- 2:02Speaker 7: terrific step back threes rainbow out of the sky threes
- 2:07Speaker 7: to win that game.
- 2:08Speaker 6: Whatever you feel about Shay in his style of play,
- 2:11Speaker 6: he's a fantastic player.
- 2:12Speaker 4: No doubt.
- 2:13Speaker 7: But Vic, I saw a fight out of that team,
- 2:16Speaker 7: even if they were not connected on defense at times,
- 2:20Speaker 7: too many layups and so on. I did see fight
- 2:23Speaker 7: and I saw one two out of that squad. And
- 2:25Speaker 7: now it's time.
- 2:26Speaker 4: To clean up.
- 2:27Speaker 6: Can I tell you why I can't? And VIC will
- 2:28Speaker 6: let you go in a second, but just to set
- 2:30Speaker 6: the table before you and where I'm at it's close game.
- 2:36Speaker 6: You were down seven with a minute thirty left. That
- 2:38Speaker 6: game was a lot closer than probably should have been.
- 2:41Speaker 6: You got the four point play which tied the game.
- 2:43Speaker 6: That was a little bit silly on Okac's part. Ok
- 2:46Speaker 6: See was missing Chet Caruso, j dubb In Hartenstein. Then
- 2:52Speaker 6: they're missing four of their main players, and you still
- 2:56Speaker 6: couldn't do it. That's why I can't. I can't do
- 2:58Speaker 6: that today.
- 2:59Speaker 3: But VIC go ahead. Well, I mean.
- 3:04Speaker 8: I saw fight, I saw pride, I saw clutch play,
- 3:08Speaker 8: I saw energy, I saw physicality. I saw a lot
- 3:12Speaker 8: of great stuff. I also came to the realization that
- 3:15Speaker 8: this team isn't good enough.
- 3:17Speaker 6: Yeah, that's kind of where I am.
- 3:21Speaker 8: Championship roster when it was built, and I thought it
- 3:26Speaker 8: was the best roster in Nugget's history when it was built.
- 3:29Speaker 8: But here we are in March, and you guys have eyes.
- 3:34Speaker 8: There are some flaws in the roster. The non Jokic
- 3:38Speaker 8: minutes are still yeah, same as it ever was. Yeah,
- 3:41Speaker 8: the game was lost as soon as he went to
- 3:43Speaker 8: the bench.
- 3:43Speaker 3: Last night, Adam.
- 3:46Speaker 8: As he went to the bench and Valanchounis and company
- 3:48Speaker 8: came in, the game was lost.
- 3:50Speaker 6: Adaman said as much.
- 3:51Speaker 5: For me, it was the second quarter that losses this game.
- 3:54Speaker 4: Again.
- 3:54Speaker 5: We started the second quarter at six I think it
- 3:55Speaker 5: was six points in six minutes.
- 3:57Speaker 3: I just didn't do a good enough job.
- 3:59Speaker 5: Was not ball strong around the rim. So we have
- 4:01Speaker 5: to keep searching for the right unit they can play
- 4:03Speaker 5: together and compliment each other.
- 4:05Speaker 8: So you do everything you can in the offseason to
- 4:09Speaker 8: fix that. And we thought they did, at least I
- 4:11Speaker 8: thought they did. Yeah, early in the season it looked
- 4:14Speaker 8: like they did. But in these big games against tougher opponents,
- 4:19Speaker 8: all the fight, all the pride, all that in the
- 4:22Speaker 8: world is not going to beat you, even against a
- 4:24Speaker 8: team that is missing four key players.
- 4:28Speaker 3: As soon as I found out.
- 4:29Speaker 8: That Holme, grin Hartenstein and company were out, I told
- 4:34Speaker 8: my cohorts, you.
- 4:35Speaker 3: Got to win this game.
- 4:36Speaker 8: There's no no moral victories. That's yeah, there's no This
- 4:40Speaker 8: isn't field day. Yeah, I get it, I get it.
- 4:43Speaker 8: Sga had a great shot, he's amazing. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
- 4:49Speaker 8: You gotta win the game. And they couldn't win the game.
- 4:52Speaker 8: So listen, can pretend. We can play this pretend game
- 4:55Speaker 8: all morning.
- 4:56Speaker 3: They're just not good enough right now.
- 4:57Speaker 8: No, and if they want to be good enough, it's
- 5:00Speaker 8: up to them to prove it.
- 5:01Speaker 3: It's not up to me to say it. You know,
- 5:03Speaker 3: if you're gonna, if you want me to hear you
- 5:05Speaker 3: whisper that in your ear for three.
- 5:06Speaker 6: Hours, I can well, this is all right. Let me
- 5:10Speaker 6: make a comparison point. It's March tenth. The if they
- 5:17Speaker 6: do this, If they do that, you're this far into
- 5:20Speaker 6: the season, you are who you are. I feel the
- 5:22Speaker 6: same way about the Avs power play motion. I'm just like,
- 5:24Speaker 6: it's just it's not good. I don't think there's any
- 5:27Speaker 6: changing this. But the Avs might be good enough elsewhere
- 5:30Speaker 6: to overcome struggles in that department when the playoffs hit.
- 5:33Speaker 6: The Nuggets aren't. Because there's one thing that is an
- 5:37Speaker 6: absolute necessity. If you want to be a championship team,
- 5:42Speaker 6: you have to win close games. And can you give
- 5:46Speaker 6: me a can you give me Jamal again there, Nelly,
- 5:49Speaker 6: from what you pulled up late in the appetizer, and
- 5:51Speaker 6: just let us hear this one more time, because I'm
- 5:54Speaker 6: bothered by this now. I know it's retrospect and it's
- 5:58Speaker 6: hindsight and all that stuff, but when I hear this,
- 6:01Speaker 6: it kind of makes me mad.
- 6:02Speaker 3: You know, it's is difficult.
- 6:03Speaker 8: I feel like for ten years we've been so good,
- 6:05Speaker 8: so good, and then we this is probably our worst
- 6:08Speaker 8: year so far of just consistently being clutched and and
- 6:11Speaker 8: now we don't got no more.
- 6:12Speaker 6: So it's just how it goes.
- 6:15Speaker 3: Sometimes. We just got to prove you guys wrong.
- 6:17Speaker 6: It's after the Lakers game in which they won, where
- 6:20Speaker 6: he did that with a wink and a tongue in
- 6:21Speaker 6: cheek and all that different stuff, and I'm like, but
- 6:23Speaker 6: you aren't. And I can tell you why it's important.
- 6:29Speaker 6: Were the Broncos the most talented team on paper? Were
- 6:33Speaker 6: they one of the most talented teams in the league? Like,
- 6:35Speaker 6: probably not. They had a whole bunch of flaws and holes,
- 6:37Speaker 6: and but they won close games like that was their separator.
- 6:41Speaker 6: They did that. That's why they're on the doorstep of
- 6:44Speaker 6: the super Bowl. This team is almost like, especially against
- 6:48Speaker 6: good teams, incapable of doing that.
- 6:51Speaker 3: Listen, you can hate, Okac, and I do I despise.
- 6:56Speaker 8: Okay, See, we're at that point now where they may
- 6:59Speaker 8: have surp asked the Lakers on my loos un till
- 7:01Speaker 8: it happened last game for me. Yeah, their head coach
- 7:04Speaker 8: is a fake. He admitted what he said after game
- 7:07Speaker 8: the lou Door game, that he was wrong. Glad he
- 7:10Speaker 8: admitted that because he's a fake. What you see on
- 7:13Speaker 8: the court is what he teaches, and that's fine because
- 7:15Speaker 8: it works for them. Can't stand the team, can't stand
- 7:18Speaker 8: anything about him. But guess what, guess what they own
- 7:22Speaker 8: you right now? Yeah, and it's okay to say that.
- 7:27Speaker 8: It's okay, it is what it is? Can I And
- 7:32Speaker 8: what's more frustrating, You're gonna play them one more time
- 7:34Speaker 8: in the second the last game of the season, and
- 7:36Speaker 8: that game probably won't mean anything.
- 7:38Speaker 3: They'll probably sit everybody.
- 7:39Speaker 8: As soon as I found out they were sitting four
- 7:41Speaker 8: guys last night, I said, oh oh, because now they
- 7:45Speaker 8: have nothing to lose. Now they're going with that game.
- 7:48Speaker 8: Who cares if we lose? We're missing four guys?
- 7:50Speaker 3: Who cares? And they played like it even if they.
- 7:53Speaker 6: Had all their guys, they'd play with nothing to lose.
- 7:55Speaker 6: They really don't have anything. I mean, the Spurs are
- 7:58Speaker 6: creeping up on them and the standings or whatever. But
- 8:00Speaker 6: can I give you just a couple of different stats
- 8:02Speaker 6: from Dan Hyatt after the game yesterday? What do you
- 8:05Speaker 6: think of this motion. Tonight, Denver was up by sixteen
- 8:08Speaker 6: at one point, and they lost. It was the fifth
- 8:11Speaker 6: loss of the year when leading by sixteen or more
- 8:14Speaker 6: in a game. That's the most such losses in any
- 8:18Speaker 6: season during the Jokich era.
- 8:21Speaker 8: Yeah, okay, and a lot of that happens when the
- 8:27Speaker 8: starters go to the bench.
- 8:28Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 8:28Speaker 4: Correct.
- 8:29Speaker 6: Here's another one. The Nuggets lost to the Thunder by three.
- 8:33Speaker 6: They missed eight free throws, three in the fourth quarter.
- 8:36Speaker 6: This is the eighth game they've lost missing more free
- 8:39Speaker 6: throws than the points they've lost by. Yeah, said, you
- 8:43Speaker 6: win half those games, your third in the West, not.
- 8:46Speaker 3: Sixth make throws.
- 8:49Speaker 8: This is a therapy session, somebody on the text. I
- 8:51Speaker 8: just said, Vick, you're providing me therapy. You're providing me
- 8:54Speaker 8: therapy because I was tossing and turning all night. Most
- 8:56Speaker 8: you've had those moments, I mean, covering the where you
- 9:00Speaker 8: just know, right, you just know no, you just know sure.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's what hit me last.
- 9:06Speaker 7: Look at me, though, Vic, look at me today, look
- 9:10Speaker 7: at me being optimistic.
- 9:12Speaker 8: Yeah, but that's you could be optimistic all you want,
- 9:15Speaker 8: and that's fine. I listen for those of you who
- 9:18Speaker 8: wish to be optimistic. I have no problem. Maybe I'll
- 9:20Speaker 8: turn to be an optimist. But they have to take
- 9:23Speaker 8: me there. It's not me taking them. See there's the difference.
- 9:26Speaker 8: They have to take me there.
- 9:27Speaker 3: You have to win these games because these.
- 9:29Speaker 8: Are the games you're gonna get in the playoffs. Everybody
- 9:32Speaker 8: keeps saying, well, just wait till they're healthy.
- 9:34Speaker 3: Wait, think about this for a second, Wait till.
- 9:38Speaker 4: We get ag back.
- 9:39Speaker 3: Well he was back, and he scored nineteen to the
- 9:41Speaker 3: first twenty nine points. What more do you want? Wait
- 9:44Speaker 3: till we get so and so back. Now we're wait
- 9:47Speaker 3: till we get pe watback. At what point you stop
- 9:49Speaker 3: saying that.
- 9:50Speaker 6: It's one guy that you're missing that game? At what
- 9:52Speaker 6: point every game has that?
- 9:54Speaker 4: At what point you just play? Wait?
- 9:56Speaker 6: Go ahead, motion, tell me why you're optimistic.
- 9:58Speaker 4: I just feel like.
- 9:59Speaker 7: I saw something, excuse me, out of this team that
- 10:04Speaker 7: I don't see on every given night.
- 10:06Speaker 3: What did you see that we haven't seen before? Exactly?
- 10:09Speaker 4: What actually saw? Some fight? I saw some want to
- 10:11Speaker 4: I saw that state.
- 10:14Speaker 3: Nothing changed the last O.
- 10:17Speaker 6: Let him finish.
- 10:18Speaker 4: Hang on ahead, I'm good, God, I'm happy. I'm just so.
- 10:26Speaker 8: It was fight for them, so is there you full
- 10:30Speaker 8: blown field day now or what?
- 10:32Speaker 3: No? Well, then Fisher thought, like, I'm trying.
- 10:39Speaker 4: The fact is that I don't know.
- 10:41Speaker 7: I just vic I it was a feeling that came
- 10:43Speaker 7: over me watching that game. Now, you you can try
- 10:46Speaker 7: to get into my head, and you probably don't want to,
- 10:49Speaker 7: but you can't get into my feelings. You cannot invade
- 10:52Speaker 7: my feelings.
- 10:54Speaker 4: I sat there and I go, you know what, I
- 10:58Speaker 4: just I just had a feeling last night.
- 11:00Speaker 7: I had a thought when I'm watching these games or
- 11:02Speaker 7: these players play that game, that it's it just felt
- 11:06Speaker 7: different to me than the last five games I've watched.
- 11:09Speaker 3: That's why they get blown out and it makes you happy.
- 11:12Speaker 7: Maybe maybe that's part of it. Sure, maybe that's part
- 11:14Speaker 7: of it. No, I just feel like there's time to
- 11:17Speaker 7: still put things together. There's time to find that umph that,
- 11:23Speaker 7: you know, more of that consistent type of okay, enough
- 11:26Speaker 7: of this crap, let's go type of thing.
- 11:28Speaker 4: There's still enough time to do that now.
- 11:30Speaker 7: Now, as far as winning an NBA title, I don't
- 11:33Speaker 7: feel that optimistic, but I feel but just I feel
- 11:37Speaker 7: like they feel like we can find something here.
- 11:43Speaker 3: That's my measuring stick.
- 11:45Speaker 8: My measuring stick is an NBA championship, because that's what
- 11:47Speaker 8: this roster was built to do.
- 11:49Speaker 3: It's it was the deepest most.
- 11:51Speaker 8: Talented roster I thought in Nugget's history when it was
- 11:55Speaker 8: originally built.
- 11:56Speaker 4: So if if.
- 11:58Speaker 3: You're playing the field day, hey to compete, and that's fine.
- 12:01Speaker 3: That's one thing. I of course they are, of course
- 12:03Speaker 3: they are.
- 12:03Speaker 8: They could upset some teams, and but to take me
- 12:06Speaker 8: to where I think they should go, they've got to
- 12:09Speaker 8: do it, and they've got to upset some teams, and
- 12:11Speaker 8: they've got to prove people wrong.
- 12:13Speaker 3: Right now, they're not doing that.
- 12:15Speaker 4: I do.
- 12:16Speaker 8: You know what their record is in their last fifteen
- 12:18Speaker 8: games against winning teams?
- 12:23Speaker 3: Terrible? Their record against winning teams.
- 12:25Speaker 8: These are teams above five hundred in their last fifteen games.
- 12:29Speaker 3: Give me, give me a number, go ahead, Well, I
- 12:31Speaker 3: know six.
- 12:33Speaker 7: You're sixteen and nineteen overall. I know that to the
- 12:37Speaker 7: last fifteen games probably not good.
- 12:40Speaker 3: Three and thirteen.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Goodness gracious, that's bad.
- 12:46Speaker 6: Well, that's and that's kind of where where I'm sitting today.
- 12:49Speaker 6: Is when you're a team that is built and I
- 12:53Speaker 6: agree with Vic I thought heading into the season, and
- 12:57Speaker 6: I've kept the same thing. Anything short of an NBA
- 13:00Speaker 6: title isn't good enough for how this how good this
- 13:03Speaker 6: team is and the player that you have on it, Like,
- 13:05Speaker 6: you need to measure things differently when you have the
- 13:07Speaker 6: best player in the world and being close isn't good enough.
- 13:14Speaker 6: You know, there's there's times when if that record was
- 13:18Speaker 6: how many games against above five hundred teams in total,
- 13:21Speaker 6: sixteen and nineteen till thirty five. If their record's twenty
- 13:24Speaker 6: five and ten against teams like that or twenty three
- 13:28Speaker 6: and twelve and they dropped that game last night in
- 13:30Speaker 6: the same fashion, I'd be like, that's fine, but I
- 13:33Speaker 6: don't have the positives to lean back on when something
- 13:37Speaker 6: like that happens.
- 13:39Speaker 4: Okay, Vicky, you're you're a therapist, Okay, amateur psychologist.
- 13:46Speaker 7: What would you do to pull Cam Johnson aside and
- 13:49Speaker 7: talk to him? What would you say to him?
- 13:50Speaker 6: But it's him and Christian Brown.
- 13:52Speaker 7: It's both of them agreed, But I'm stop. I'm gonna
- 13:54Speaker 7: start with Cam. What would you What would you say
- 13:56Speaker 7: to Cam? Vick if you have a player who self
- 14:00Speaker 7: admittedly and has the past couple of weeks is in one,
- 14:04Speaker 7: what would you say?
- 14:06Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't know what to say. To him.
- 14:09Speaker 8: I don't know. I mean, it's not just him. It's
- 14:12Speaker 8: not just one player. It's not just him.
- 14:16Speaker 3: Christian Brown last night admitted after the game that he
- 14:19Speaker 3: got roasted.
- 14:21Speaker 6: Yeah, those two combining for ten points is happening far
- 14:25Speaker 6: too often for people in the starting five.
- 14:27Speaker 3: It's just it's never just one player.
- 14:30Speaker 8: I mean, I could look at the OKC lineup and
- 14:32Speaker 8: pick you know, two or three players and here and there,
- 14:35Speaker 8: but they're just not getting enough.
- 14:38Speaker 6: But what's worse than that, vic is I could accept, Like,
- 14:43Speaker 6: how's this for a name in the past. Remember Tony
- 14:46Speaker 6: Allen out of Memphis never scored. That wasn't the point.
- 14:51Speaker 6: If you score six points in a game, but you
- 14:53Speaker 6: play lockdown defense, that's good, you cancel it out, that's fine.
- 14:58Speaker 6: You're getting neither. I feel like both of them. You
- 15:01Speaker 6: aren't getting points and you aren't getting good defense. And
- 15:04Speaker 6: so then it's like, well, then what.
- 15:05Speaker 4: Do we do here?
- 15:07Speaker 6: I mean, Christian Brown, how many games has he had
- 15:11Speaker 6: where he's had you know, single digit points this year?
- 15:16Speaker 6: It's been a pretty consistent problem. You know, just in
- 15:20Speaker 6: the last two games he's got eleven total points. That's
- 15:26Speaker 6: somebody that you're paying what vic What was his number?
- 15:28Speaker 6: Thirty million dollars? What is it that he's making now,
- 15:30Speaker 6: something like that? And you did that because it looked
- 15:32Speaker 6: like his offensive game took a huge step forward last year.
- 15:35Speaker 6: I mean, he averaged over fifteen and a half points.
- 15:39Speaker 8: As much as I agreed with the decision to let
- 15:43Speaker 8: Russell Westbrook go, I did. I just thought, you know,
- 15:46Speaker 8: there was too much havoc, too much. But you tell
- 15:49Speaker 8: me who would have done more for this team?
- 15:54Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 15:55Speaker 3: I agree? Who would have done more for this team?
- 16:00Speaker 6: More that we can get to with that in just
- 16:01Speaker 6: a bit.
- 16:01Speaker 4: It is.
- 16:02Speaker 3: I mean, he brought heart and energy.
- 16:04Speaker 8: Yeah, no matter how bad he played at times, no
- 16:06Speaker 8: matter how many turnovers, no matter any of that, you
- 16:09Speaker 8: knew that he was always going to play with the
- 16:12Speaker 8: ultimate energy and physicality. And right now I see too
- 16:17Speaker 8: many zombie like plays.
- 16:20Speaker 6: I agree. When we come back. NFL free agency opens yesterday.
- 16:23Speaker 6: I was so excited, and then the Broncos just did
- 16:27Speaker 6: some tinkering with their own roster. So we'll get to
- 16:29Speaker 6: that in just a second. It is an AVS ticket Tuesday,
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- 16:40Speaker 7: I'm going to use that from no on What what
- 16:43Speaker 7: did you do last night?
- 16:44Speaker 4: I just stayed home and tinkled tinkred with my own roster.
- 16:47Speaker 3: I mean that's what they did.
- 16:49Speaker 6: I was so excited for something to happen, and it
- 16:52Speaker 6: was just like, hey, guys, Singleton's.
- 16:56Speaker 3: Back, I'm roster.
- 17:02Speaker 8: Why the opposing team is missing two centers?
- 17:07Speaker 3: You've got all your bigs.
- 17:09Speaker 8: And the Nuggets are running an offense, and I know
- 17:11Speaker 8: the offense is extraordinary. Why aren't the bigs posting up
- 17:16Speaker 8: down low? Why are the bigs hanging out at the
- 17:18Speaker 8: free throw line the entire game?
- 17:19Speaker 3: Yeah?
- 17:19Speaker 6: I don't know, and we'll get to that in just
- 17:22Speaker 6: a little bit. NFL free agency keyword coming away next.
- 17:25Speaker 3: But no, you said you before you want to stay
- 17:27Speaker 3: in Denver to hope to resign here.
- 17:29Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I'm a Bronco. Yeah, I'm a Bronco.
- 17:31Speaker 9: I'm a buck Eye and I'm a Bronco. I wasn't
- 17:33Speaker 9: drafted here, but I do firmly believe that I'm a
- 17:36Speaker 9: Bronco and love everyone here, even love you guys. And
- 17:39Speaker 9: sometimes that's hard because, as I can recall, at the
- 17:42Speaker 9: beginning of like in the summer, you guys were in
- 17:45Speaker 9: you you were predicting like seven hundred yards for me
- 17:49Speaker 9: rushing throughout the whole year.
- 17:50Speaker 4: I got that in ten weeks.
- 17:52Speaker 3: Almost eight hundred.
- 17:53Speaker 9: So it is hard to be, you know, hard to
- 17:55Speaker 9: like you guys.
- 17:56Speaker 3: But I like you guys. That's how that's how great
- 17:58Speaker 3: it is.
- 17:58Speaker 6: Here that man is back on a two year deal.
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- 18:36Speaker 6: o'clock rolls around yesterday. I'm pumped. I'm in car on
- 18:42Speaker 6: the drive home, listening to Raj and Sanford.
- 18:45Speaker 3: I'm waiting to hear.
- 18:45Speaker 6: Some news like come on, bring it to me, And
- 18:49Speaker 6: then an hour passes nothing happened. I was like, all right,
- 18:51Speaker 6: it's just a first wave of free agency. Oh what
- 18:53Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker is going to the Chiefs. That stucks. I
- 18:55Speaker 6: don't want to go to the Chiefs. But God did
- 18:57Speaker 6: suck by the way too pricey? Hi, I see Kenneth
- 19:00Speaker 6: Walker wasn't coming here. How about etn Etn still on
- 19:03Speaker 6: the board, heard they're interested? How about him? Ah, he's
- 19:06Speaker 6: going to the Saints four years, fifty two million dollars.
- 19:09Speaker 3: Okay, Uh?
- 19:11Speaker 6: Well how about Tyler Algier. He's a big bowling ball
- 19:15Speaker 6: of running back. Good like depth for you if you
- 19:18Speaker 6: need somebody, if somebody gets hurt. He leaves on six
- 19:21Speaker 6: million dollars a year to go somewhere. I forget where.
- 19:23Speaker 6: And then you just quickly realized nothing's gonna happen today,
- 19:27Speaker 6: is it? And what they ended up doing was bringing
- 19:33Speaker 6: back Alex Singleton. We saw the sternad news that he
- 19:37Speaker 6: was back. They bring back JK. Dobbins on a two year,
- 19:40Speaker 6: twenty million dollar deal with only eight million guarantees that
- 19:43Speaker 6: feels more like a one year deal with the chance
- 19:46Speaker 6: for two. And then they let go of Dre Greenlaw
- 19:51Speaker 6: and JFM was signed by the Titans. It's not that
- 19:56Speaker 6: I'm I think they did anything wrong yesterday. I kind
- 20:00Speaker 6: of think all of the moves that they made were correct.
- 20:02Speaker 6: With the exception of the Troutman contract, I think everything
- 20:07Speaker 6: they did was right. Letting Greenwalt Greenlaw walk was right.
- 20:12Speaker 6: Not paying JFM twenty one million dollars when he's a
- 20:15Speaker 6: rotational player in your defense was correct. I am highly
- 20:20Speaker 6: disappointed that they didn't do anything else. Just to be honest, Yeah,
- 20:24Speaker 6: I won an upgrade of some former fashion and I
- 20:28Speaker 6: should have known. The second free agency opens up and
- 20:32Speaker 6: Alex Pierce gets eight billion dollars, I'm like, Okay, well,
- 20:34Speaker 6: maybe it's gonna be pretty tough for somebody that was ridiculous.
- 20:37Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm not gonna lie. A center gets paid.
- 20:40Speaker 8: What did that center, Lindabaum get paid.
- 20:44Speaker 4: He got twenty seventy years.
- 20:45Speaker 7: He's the highest paid interior lineman in the history of football.
- 20:49Speaker 6: Do you know the last center that signed the richest
- 20:52Speaker 6: contract for a center in NFL history?
- 20:54Speaker 3: Who that was?
- 20:56Speaker 4: Uh?
- 20:57Speaker 3: Was this?
- 20:57Speaker 7: It?
- 20:57Speaker 3: The Broncos center, Lord Kush it was the thing, Well
- 21:01Speaker 3: was it the lord?
- 21:02Speaker 7: When he went when he went to the tight correct
- 21:04Speaker 7: I was gonna say, but well he's gone now, and
- 21:06Speaker 7: then they caught him.
- 21:06Speaker 8: Yes, hey, you guys, guys, guys, hold on, pull everybody calm.
- 21:11Speaker 8: I'm trying to be calm regarding free agency. I'll play
- 21:14Speaker 8: the moser.
- 21:14Speaker 3: Role in this segment.
- 21:15Speaker 4: Income this is me being calmed.
- 21:16Speaker 8: Five teams Eagles, Broncos, Jaguar, Seahawks, Packers, Not a single
- 21:21Speaker 8: one of them signed an X Cherrier free agent, not one,
- 21:26Speaker 8: not one of them. You call, what are those five
- 21:28Speaker 8: teams have in common?
- 21:29Speaker 4: They're all in the playoffs, They're all very cood.
- 21:32Speaker 8: It's true, when you're really good and you have everything within,
- 21:38Speaker 8: you're fine.
- 21:39Speaker 3: Now.
- 21:39Speaker 8: Do I want the Broncos to go get a playmaker
- 21:42Speaker 8: on offense? Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. Did I want them
- 21:45Speaker 8: to sign a running back yesterday?
- 21:47Speaker 4: Yes?
- 21:50Speaker 3: They did one of their own.
- 21:53Speaker 7: Hey, this is where I step in and I try
- 21:56Speaker 7: to walk a very tight tight rope because Vic's and
- 22:01Speaker 7: his feelings today a little bit, and so am I
- 22:03Speaker 7: because of the Nuggets last night. But this is where
- 22:06Speaker 7: I want to push back on Vick because Vic the
- 22:11Speaker 7: Denver Broncos themselves.
- 22:13Speaker 4: I feel call me crazy.
- 22:16Speaker 7: I feel like they walked a tight rope last season
- 22:19Speaker 7: to the number one seed.
- 22:21Speaker 4: Now that may sound crazy, that may sell were the
- 22:24Speaker 4: number one shade. I get that true though, but Sean
- 22:29Speaker 4: Payton admitted it.
- 22:29Speaker 7: He goes, look, man, we're walking a razor's edge, nonscore
- 22:34Speaker 7: wins man.
- 22:35Speaker 6: The quote was, I'm not naive enough to think that
- 22:38Speaker 6: these one score games can't flip boom.
- 22:40Speaker 8: But what if they're more aggressive in the second phase
- 22:43Speaker 8: of free agency? What if they avoided the first phase,
- 22:45Speaker 8: the ridiculous money phase for a reason. I mean, come on,
- 22:49Speaker 8: we all know Alec Pierce is a good player, but
- 22:51Speaker 8: come on, it's Alec Pierce worth what he's going to
- 22:53Speaker 8: be making?
- 22:53Speaker 7: Come on, No, but he's but he's back at his
- 22:57Speaker 7: own play fellas. Come on, you resign your own guy,
- 23:00Speaker 7: you know.
- 23:00Speaker 6: Hold on, hold on, No, this isn't about Alec Pierce.
- 23:03Speaker 6: That's not what I'm again, I'm not even upset. I'm
- 23:08Speaker 6: just I'd be lying if I said it wasn't disappointed.
- 23:10Speaker 6: I'm disappointed paying you know, a running back eleven twelve
- 23:15Speaker 6: million dollars. You gave JK. Dobbins ten? Is giving Etn
- 23:20Speaker 6: thirteen really that much?
- 23:23Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
- 23:24Speaker 6: That's what I'm talking about.
- 23:26Speaker 3: Is he tm better than JK. Dobbins.
- 23:28Speaker 6: Here's what's weird about JK Dobbins? And this is well, No,
- 23:30Speaker 6: before you go on, I'm gonna ask. I know, I'm
- 23:32Speaker 6: answering your question. I'm answering your question. Here's what's weird
- 23:35Speaker 6: about him.
- 23:36Speaker 4: I think JK.
- 23:37Speaker 6: Dobbins win healthy, is like a top six to seven
- 23:40Speaker 6: back in the league. I'm being dead serious. Do you
- 23:42Speaker 6: know how many he averages for his career? Five point
- 23:45Speaker 6: two yards per carry Barry Sanders average five Okay, five
- 23:49Speaker 6: point two is one of the best in NFL history.
- 23:53Speaker 6: I don't think he can get on that list because
- 23:54Speaker 6: he doesn't. He doesn't have the volume for it. But
- 23:56Speaker 6: when he's healthy, he's really good. But we all know
- 23:59Speaker 6: the problem.
- 24:00Speaker 8: He's not healthy, I agree, which is why you have
- 24:02Speaker 8: to add another running back. Right still, exactly, listen, I'm
- 24:06Speaker 8: not gonna go into a fetal position because you couldn't
- 24:08Speaker 8: sign Travis Etn.
- 24:10Speaker 3: And no point in my life did I say, oh
- 24:12Speaker 3: my god, the.
- 24:13Speaker 8: Broncos are one Travis Etn away from being a dominant force.
- 24:17Speaker 8: He's come on, people, we're getting to that point now
- 24:20Speaker 8: where every free agent name that comes around, that's the
- 24:24Speaker 8: missing piece.
- 24:25Speaker 3: Haven't we learned? Sometimes the missing piece is right in
- 24:27Speaker 3: front of you. Sometimes it's right. Sometimes what you think
- 24:31Speaker 3: you're gonna get is not what you're gonna get.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Sometimes it's not look at the Nuggets.
- 24:35Speaker 6: Here's my problem. I don't think Harvey's a guy. I
- 24:40Speaker 6: think if if you're bringing somebody in from college to
- 24:42Speaker 6: the pros, there's learning curves for everybody. Running back is
- 24:46Speaker 6: one of the only exceptions where it's like you get
- 24:48Speaker 6: in the league either you can play or you can't.
- 24:50Speaker 3: And RJ.
- 24:51Speaker 6: Harvey just couldn't do it last year. And maybe maybe
- 24:54Speaker 6: he's better this season or whatever. But if you're relying on, well,
- 24:57Speaker 6: we'll find another one in the draft. I don't want
- 25:00Speaker 6: this situation to occur this year. What happened last year,
- 25:04Speaker 6: which is top five running game in the league ten
- 25:07Speaker 6: games into the season, Dobbins gets hurt and it disappears
- 25:11Speaker 6: entirely vic.
- 25:11Speaker 7: They also self admitted that Dobbins when he went out
- 25:17Speaker 7: that they didn't have a whole lot of confidence at
- 25:20Speaker 7: Harvey and that he's got to adjust the way he's
- 25:22Speaker 7: running the football. And I'm sure they'll continue to work
- 25:25Speaker 7: with him and work with him. But Brett's right in
- 25:28Speaker 7: this regard. Here's the games played in Dobbin's career fifteen,
- 25:32Speaker 7: all right, rookie eight, one, thirteen, ten. Yeah, and that
- 25:41Speaker 7: inlies the issue right there. And I like JK. Dobbins
- 25:44Speaker 7: a lot, and I'm glad that he's back because I
- 25:46Speaker 7: said it yesterday. Do I get any Street credit all
- 25:48Speaker 7: for that?
- 25:49Speaker 4: I said?
- 25:50Speaker 7: When I look at all these dudes, what's to stop
- 25:53Speaker 7: them from just resigning their own guy? Other than yeah,
- 25:55Speaker 7: the injury is a situation. But I mean, none of
- 25:59Speaker 7: these guys really better than JK. Dobbins running the football
- 26:02Speaker 7: for the Denver Broncos.
- 26:03Speaker 6: But there's security problems. There's like, when he leaves the lineup,
- 26:09Speaker 6: do you have somebody else that you trust?
- 26:11Speaker 4: So you're saying no, Street gred, well.
- 26:14Speaker 6: No, I said all along, they should bring him back.
- 26:16Speaker 6: He's good. You should bring back good players, but you
- 26:19Speaker 6: need insurance.
- 26:20Speaker 8: They need another running back, and that running back cannot
- 26:22Speaker 8: come from in house either. I know they signed Beday
- 26:25Speaker 8: and did they did they end up resigning Julia McLoughlin
- 26:28Speaker 8: as well.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Are they bringing a whole gang?
- 26:30Speaker 4: I didn't see that.
- 26:31Speaker 8: Okay, but Bedet's coming back. I you know, I think RJ.
- 26:35Speaker 8: Harvey a year removed will be better.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Now.
- 26:37Speaker 8: How much better, I don't know. But you can't go
- 26:40Speaker 8: into camp. I need one more. I need somebody.
- 26:43Speaker 6: And that's where my disappointment falls with yesterday. He's not
- 26:45Speaker 6: Ali Pierce. It's again if they signed Algier. I don't
- 26:50Speaker 6: think Algiers this amazing running back, but he's a good
- 26:53Speaker 6: insurance option if you have to have one. And the
- 26:58Speaker 6: the unknown of guys in the draft is what scares me.
- 27:01Speaker 6: If that's the route they want to take of like, hey,
- 27:04Speaker 6: we'll find another one in the draft. I'm like, well,
- 27:05Speaker 6: you just spent the sixty four overall pick on a
- 27:08Speaker 6: running back last year that you didn't trust at the
- 27:10Speaker 6: end of the season when you needed running game the most,
- 27:13Speaker 6: Like it's a snow globe. We're down three and you
- 27:17Speaker 6: couldn't run the football. And that's why you weren't in
- 27:20Speaker 6: the super Bowl, even with a backup quarterback. If they
- 27:22Speaker 6: had a running game, I bet they would have gotten there. Still,
- 27:26Speaker 6: So that's where the disappointment lies. It's I'm not freaking
- 27:28Speaker 6: out or anything. They still have Look, they could have
- 27:31Speaker 6: a trade lined up for some guy today. They could
- 27:35Speaker 6: change it in a hurry. But I'd be lying if
- 27:37Speaker 6: I said I wasn't a little disappointed.
- 27:39Speaker 8: I understand your frustration most because if you took this
- 27:42Speaker 8: entire roster that finished one step away from the super Bowl,
- 27:45Speaker 8: and you could argue they should have been in the
- 27:47Speaker 8: super Bowl if not for freak injury. If you took
- 27:49Speaker 8: this entire roster, said play it back, they may win
- 27:53Speaker 8: nine games with the same roster.
- 27:55Speaker 3: You never know, things could go the other way.
- 27:57Speaker 4: You know. I've been talking a lot to national.
- 28:01Speaker 7: Hockey people right Internet International if you want to go
- 28:04Speaker 7: to Canada, We're talking a lot of hockey people like, oh,
- 28:06Speaker 7: haves a looking pretty good.
- 28:07Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, I.
- 28:09Speaker 7: Said, but you just never know, man, You just never
- 28:12Speaker 7: know if you're gonna get back there. It just never
- 28:16Speaker 7: I mean, things happen. The sports is weird. You just
- 28:20Speaker 7: never know. We can run it back. Sure, and there
- 28:23Speaker 7: are many players in the Broncos. I like many, But
- 28:27Speaker 7: is the defense gonna be that good again?
- 28:29Speaker 4: Could be? Could not be?
- 28:31Speaker 7: I mean I just think that they they had some
- 28:34Speaker 7: things fall their way that I don't think, statistically speaking,
- 28:40Speaker 7: are necessarily gonna fall their way again. They're gonna have
- 28:43Speaker 7: to play their way back into the number one seed.
- 28:46Speaker 7: Kansas City obviously got better. They were six and eleven.
- 28:49Speaker 7: They were crap, But you think they're gonna be crap forever.
- 28:52Speaker 7: They just signed Walker to a humongous deal. But he's
- 28:55Speaker 7: a pretty damn good running back.
- 28:57Speaker 8: But you don't here's the deal though. You don't make
- 29:00Speaker 8: change just for the sake of change. I get why
- 29:03Speaker 8: Bronco fans were disappointed yesterday. Yesterday was Christmas and you
- 29:07Speaker 8: didn't get a present. You're gonna be disappointed. That's what
- 29:12Speaker 8: yesterday was. Ye brothers and sisters. Everybody got to open
- 29:15Speaker 8: a present and you sat there. You know why, because
- 29:18Speaker 8: you opened yours two weeks earlier, like we used to do,
- 29:22Speaker 8: And now you got to sit there and watch them
- 29:24Speaker 8: enjoy all that splendor of opening that gift.
- 29:26Speaker 3: And you got your.
- 29:27Speaker 8: Present two weeks ago because you were too damned selfish
- 29:30Speaker 8: to wait.
- 29:30Speaker 4: No, Mom went into the garage, found your soccer ball
- 29:35Speaker 4: and wrap that up. Yeah, he gave it to you.
- 29:37Speaker 3: They gave your older brother's clothes.
- 29:39Speaker 7: But hey, here's Steve's jeans.
- 29:43Speaker 8: Listen, listen, they still have a ton of salary cap money.
- 29:47Speaker 3: Correct.
- 29:49Speaker 8: Has this franchise ever given you the impression that it's cheap? No,
- 29:55Speaker 8: has this franchise ever given you. With this new ownership
- 29:58Speaker 8: group and this new executive team, get give you the
- 30:00Speaker 8: impression that they're gonna take the easy way out on earth?
- 30:03Speaker 8: They give me So what makes you think just because
- 30:06Speaker 8: they didn't go get Alec Pierce for one hundred thousand million,
- 30:10Speaker 8: that they're suddenly going easy. They've got that they you
- 30:15Speaker 8: know what, they have my trust because they earned it.
- 30:18Speaker 3: They earned it. You earn my trust, George Peyton, Sean Payton, everybody,
- 30:23Speaker 3: You earned it because you did something this year I
- 30:25Speaker 3: never expected.
- 30:26Speaker 4: You to do.
- 30:27Speaker 3: So you could say what you want. I'm gonna let
- 30:30Speaker 3: them make their decisions.
- 30:31Speaker 6: I totally trust them. Okay, they have my complete and
- 30:36Speaker 6: whole trust. There's one area that they have not gone to,
- 30:43Speaker 6: and it's exactly what we're talking about. And that's the
- 30:47Speaker 6: part that makes me just a little bit like hmm.
- 30:51Speaker 6: They have invested, and they have spent money, and they
- 30:53Speaker 6: will continue to do so where they see fit. It's
- 30:57Speaker 6: always felt to me since Sean Payton got here. Sean
- 31:01Speaker 6: Payton does not care so much about getting high end
- 31:04Speaker 6: skill position guys because he thinks his system is the
- 31:07Speaker 6: high end skill. They've spent money literally everywhere else. Offensive
- 31:13Speaker 6: line yep, defensive line, yeah, secondary quarterback. They've invested the
- 31:20Speaker 6: first round pick.
- 31:20Speaker 4: In they will be spending money.
- 31:22Speaker 6: They spent money to get rid of one. They have
- 31:25Speaker 6: never spent money or invested in wide receiver or running back.
- 31:30Speaker 4: Not big time brad anyway.
- 31:32Speaker 6: And I think that a lot of that stems from
- 31:35Speaker 6: Sean being like, if you just run my system the
- 31:39Speaker 6: way it has to be run, then we don't need
- 31:42Speaker 6: to spend thirty million on a wide receiver. I'm like, well,
- 31:44Speaker 6: sometimes it's nice to have a guy who's worth thirty
- 31:47Speaker 6: million dollars at wide receiver.
- 31:49Speaker 3: Yeah, sometimes talent Trump's scheme.
- 31:51Speaker 6: Yeah right, I think your system's great, Sean. It would
- 31:54Speaker 6: be really great if I had one of those Justin
- 31:56Speaker 6: Jefferson's in there, justin for.
- 32:00Speaker 7: Since don't grow on trees, bro, I mean, those those
- 32:02Speaker 7: guys are hard to find.
- 32:07Speaker 8: Round two, right, this is the secondary market. Yesterday was
- 32:11Speaker 8: the first one that was the one the big bucks Deebo,
- 32:13Speaker 8: Samuel Juan Jennings, Romeo Dobbs. Those are three receivers still available.
- 32:19Speaker 8: Dallas Goddard still available. Yeah, I mean the guys there,
- 32:24Speaker 8: I'm just giving you names.
- 32:26Speaker 6: I just I saw what they did yesterday. They're like
- 32:29Speaker 6: Troutman's back, and so is Atkins, and so is Michael Burton,
- 32:33Speaker 6: and so is everybody else that plays that sort of role.
- 32:35Speaker 3: Whatever.
- 32:36Speaker 4: Vic. There's also one thing. I trust. You trust the
- 32:40Speaker 4: Denver Broncos. I trust the Denver Broncos, Brett. You trust them.
- 32:44Speaker 4: I trust them. They'll spend the money they want to win.
- 32:47Speaker 4: I love it.
- 32:47Speaker 3: What do you think they're going to keep that money?
- 32:48Speaker 4: And no, no, no, no. But here's what else I trust.
- 32:52Speaker 7: I trust that the Broncos are going to be playing
- 32:55Speaker 7: a first place schedule this year.
- 32:57Speaker 4: And I trust that the rest of the National.
- 33:00Speaker 7: Football League is going to approach the Denver Broncos in
- 33:03Speaker 7: a much different way this year. They are going to
- 33:06Speaker 7: be looking at the Broncos as yeah, the number one seed,
- 33:10Speaker 7: a whisper away from the Super Bowl, and they are
- 33:14Speaker 7: going to act accordingly. It's gonna be tough, man, That's
- 33:17Speaker 7: all I'm saying is it's gonna be tough and You're right.
- 33:20Speaker 7: They could be a nine win team. They could be
- 33:22Speaker 7: another fourteen win team again. But it's gonna be it's
- 33:26Speaker 7: going to be tough. They're going to face adversity again
- 33:30Speaker 7: and maybe even more significantly. I don't know, we'll see,
- 33:34Speaker 7: but it's going to be difficult.
- 33:36Speaker 6: Texter says Drew Brees only had one Pro Bowl receiver
- 33:39Speaker 6: during his time with the Saints. Well, then I hope
- 33:42Speaker 6: bo Nix is Drew Brees. Sometimes you need help.
- 33:50Speaker 3: You guys are treating yesterday like it was a game.
- 33:52Speaker 3: That's the issue.
- 33:53Speaker 8: I mean, I've done this free agency thing every year
- 33:57Speaker 8: and every fan base does the same thing. You're keeping
- 34:00Speaker 8: scores if it's a game, and if you don't win
- 34:04Speaker 8: the game, suddenly you're a loser. It's not a game,
- 34:06Speaker 8: it's a process. It's a stage in building a team,
- 34:09Speaker 8: and if you look at it that way, it's a
- 34:12Speaker 8: different outlook. Because you didn't win free agency doesn't mean
- 34:16Speaker 8: that you're done. It doesn't mean it's just one of
- 34:19Speaker 8: the stages. Calm down, Day one, free agency, Calm down.
- 34:26Speaker 6: Hang on, hang on. I think you're you're not quite
- 34:29Speaker 6: getting the true feeling on this side of the table.
- 34:34Speaker 6: I'm not freaking out. The Broncos are a good football team.
- 34:38Speaker 6: We all kind of knew it. The Broncos admitted as much.
- 34:41Speaker 6: Lakewold said running back is a must for this team
- 34:44Speaker 6: this offseason. And maybe there must was JK. Dobbins getting
- 34:47Speaker 6: him back. I don't know. But all I'm saying is
- 34:50Speaker 6: when I see a report from Chris thomasin yesterday, Hey,
- 34:52Speaker 6: the Broncos are interested in Kendrick Bourne, I'm not. That
- 34:56Speaker 6: does nothing for me. Okay, Kendrick Bourne's not moving the
- 34:59Speaker 6: needle with So let me.
- 35:00Speaker 8: Get this straight, because you speak like every other football
- 35:03Speaker 8: fan that feels besmirched.
- 35:05Speaker 3: Today because they didn't get the players you want. You
- 35:09Speaker 3: feel like you lost.
- 35:11Speaker 6: No, what do you mean? I lost?
- 35:13Speaker 8: Well because they didn't get players you wanted in free agency.
- 35:18Speaker 8: I didn't even have specific players I would have loved
- 35:21Speaker 8: to have gotten Kenneth Walker. I thought Kenneth Walker was man.
- 35:25Speaker 8: That would have been great.
- 35:26Speaker 3: He went to the Chiefs.
- 35:28Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 35:30Speaker 8: Does that mean automatically that the Chiefs are better than
- 35:32Speaker 8: the Broncos because they won the Kenneth Walker.
- 35:34Speaker 6: Der No, it means the Chiefs got better, though. They
- 35:36Speaker 6: definitely got better. And that's all I'm saying, Vic, like
- 35:41Speaker 6: the Chiefs got better yesterday. I don't even know if
- 35:43Speaker 6: the Broncos necessarily got better if you look at what
- 35:46Speaker 6: they brought back compared to what they lost. Jeffmser, I guess.
- 35:48Speaker 8: What I'm telling you is get better is you got
- 35:51Speaker 8: to prove to me that you're better with these moves.
- 35:53Speaker 8: You got better on paper. I've seen teams get better
- 35:57Speaker 8: on paper and not better.
- 35:58Speaker 6: I don't know if you're arguing with me, like I
- 36:00Speaker 6: get it that party understand. I think to say, Vic,
- 36:05Speaker 6: I'm disappointed by yesterday is not a huge stretch, that's all.
- 36:10Speaker 6: That's all.
- 36:10Speaker 8: Disappointed because they didn't open any presents. That's why you're disappointed.
- 36:15Speaker 8: You did, you didn't get to open any There.
- 36:17Speaker 6: Were names of running backs that I thought could have
- 36:19Speaker 6: made them better, and they didn't get any of them.
- 36:22Speaker 4: That's all.
- 36:22Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
- 36:24Speaker 6: I mean, it's not like they suck now or I
- 36:26Speaker 6: don't think.
- 36:27Speaker 8: I'm here to tell you if they decide not to
- 36:30Speaker 8: add another running back to the party before camp, I'll
- 36:34Speaker 8: be there right there with you, saying, what what are
- 36:35Speaker 8: you doing? But they've got how many months before training camp?
- 36:40Speaker 4: See April May.
- 36:42Speaker 8: June July fourth, So they still free agents available, they
- 36:46Speaker 8: have trades available, they have a draft in front of them.
- 36:49Speaker 3: They have plenty of time to add other running.
- 36:52Speaker 8: Backs to the party because they didn't do it on
- 36:55Speaker 8: day freaking won a free agency all hell.
- 37:00Speaker 6: One, It's that the guys that are now gone after
- 37:03Speaker 6: Day one, I don't see anybody left.
- 37:05Speaker 4: Everybody else, everybody else's three guys that meet your mark. Yeah,
- 37:09Speaker 4: everybody else is just kind of a guy.
- 37:11Speaker 3: Like, so, you mean to tell me that there are
- 37:13Speaker 3: only three running backs then game?
- 37:15Speaker 6: There's actually like four, Okay, it's like four.
- 37:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 37:21Speaker 7: Yeah, that's kind of what I'm saying too, is that
- 37:24Speaker 7: everybody else is just the guy I.
- 37:25Speaker 8: Wanted to bring all because the season, before the season,
- 37:29Speaker 8: everybody earmarked Kenneth Walker as the MVP of the Super Bowl.
- 37:33Speaker 3: Watched this guy.
- 37:34Speaker 8: What are you arguing Kenneth Walker was a good back
- 37:36Speaker 8: before the start?
- 37:38Speaker 3: How do you know you can't go get another Kenneth Walker?
- 37:40Speaker 3: I mean the.
- 37:40Speaker 4: Exist they could.
- 37:41Speaker 3: No.
- 37:41Speaker 6: No, I'm still holding out hope that maybe they got
- 37:43Speaker 6: a trade or something lined up. Again, this isn't me
- 37:45Speaker 6: saying this is over.
- 37:46Speaker 3: These guys suck.
- 37:47Speaker 6: I don't know what what you're perceiving from what I'm saying.
- 37:50Speaker 6: All I said was a little disappointed from yesterday. I
- 37:52Speaker 6: wish they would have got a running back.
- 37:54Speaker 3: That's all I said.
- 37:55Speaker 8: But in all I'm saying is you're disappointed because you
- 37:57Speaker 8: didn't get to open any presents.
- 37:59Speaker 3: That's the true disapoint.
- 38:00Speaker 4: Well, then stop looking in the closet.
- 38:01Speaker 6: Two weeks beforehand, reminder, the key word for this hour
- 38:05Speaker 6: is dink. So text that in your first and last
- 38:07Speaker 6: name to three oh three five four nine two five
- 38:09Speaker 6: back after this. All right, can't get it out of
- 38:14Speaker 6: my head, but we have a parlay for you.
- 38:18Speaker 4: Who is.
- 38:20Speaker 3: I mean like that?
- 38:23Speaker 6: Yeah, I didn't like it.
- 38:24Speaker 3: I didn't like it.
- 38:25Speaker 4: I whoever that is?
- 38:27Speaker 3: We do have some obnoxious people doing those ads.
- 38:32Speaker 6: Oh, I'll tell you my favorite guy. It's not who
- 38:35Speaker 6: you think it is. It's not I got a for you.
- 38:39Speaker 6: It's not him.
- 38:40Speaker 8: But can I guess, Yeah, I guess it's if you
- 38:43Speaker 8: gotta get out of a term.
- 38:45Speaker 6: Yes, Timeshare guy is my favorite guy. Hey, you got
- 38:50Speaker 6: a tom Share, you call me. I'll beat the hell
- 38:52Speaker 6: out of anybody tries to sell you another one. That
- 38:54Speaker 6: guy rules. You know what I'm talking about. Mos Timeshare
- 38:58Speaker 6: guy is cool. I want to out with Timeshare guy.
- 39:01Speaker 7: I've heard time Sure guy two hundred and fifty seven
- 39:03Speaker 7: thousand times in my life.
- 39:05Speaker 4: I probably know his whole life story by now. What
- 39:10Speaker 4: you know?
- 39:11Speaker 6: You know somebody else life story too. Before you did
- 39:14Speaker 6: your Anastasia Bell read yesterday.
- 39:19Speaker 3: Hey, we need to make that up. By the way,
- 39:20Speaker 3: you over like two or three.
- 39:22Speaker 4: Nelliett comes up at eight.
- 39:25Speaker 3: You get me laughing.
- 39:26Speaker 4: Don't do this, both of you. Eight thirty eight stop
- 39:29Speaker 4: stop it right, they get through it.
- 39:32Speaker 6: I pray to God the same thing happens. Get off
- 39:37Speaker 6: the bench, join the hall.
- 39:40Speaker 3: You Helly's dad. Hey, there's no way that's a real voice.
- 39:45Speaker 4: That's not possible. That's a dude. Yeah, that's a dude.
- 39:48Speaker 6: Let me ask you something. Sure, the Raiders go out
- 39:53Speaker 6: and they just spent two hundred and eighty three million dollars.
- 39:56Speaker 4: I know what is what is up with that? Look?
- 40:00Speaker 6: That's what bad teams do. The vix point the teams
- 40:03Speaker 6: that didn't spend money yesterday are good teams, and usually
- 40:05Speaker 6: that indicates this, You've spent a bunch of money retaining
- 40:08Speaker 6: your own guys because you're good and you have to
- 40:11Speaker 6: pay your good players. You know, part of the reason
- 40:13Speaker 6: why JFM is leaving, and I don't think the Broncos
- 40:15Speaker 6: wanted him to. John Franklin Myers is a very good player,
- 40:19Speaker 6: but he's a rotational piece on this team. He's being
- 40:21Speaker 6: paid twenty one million dollars a year in Tennessee to
- 40:24Speaker 6: be the guy on that defensive line.
- 40:26Speaker 4: Of course, but we've seen this.
- 40:29Speaker 6: You could have called this in June of last year.
- 40:32Speaker 6: Look around that defensive line and why John Franklin Myers
- 40:35Speaker 6: kept sending tweets out about like it wasn't so much anger,
- 40:40Speaker 6: but he was talking about, Hey, I don't get a
- 40:41Speaker 6: contract still, but why why they love me? He looked
- 40:45Speaker 6: to his left and he goes, Zach Allen got paid.
- 40:48Speaker 6: So did Jonathan Cooper. And he looked at it right
- 40:50Speaker 6: and he's like, Malcolm Roach got paid, and so did
- 40:52Speaker 6: Nick Bonito, and so did everybody else. I'm the only one.
- 40:55Speaker 6: It's like, you could tell. Then they're like, we don't
- 40:57Speaker 6: have the cash for you, buddy, Sorry, go get it.
- 40:59Speaker 8: So he could feel decision. They made their decision. They
- 41:02Speaker 8: invested in other players. I'm not going to be as
- 41:06Speaker 8: bent out of shape on what they did in free agency.
- 41:08Speaker 8: I'm just not going to be there. We have so
- 41:10Speaker 8: much to talk about.
- 41:11Speaker 4: We do.
- 41:11Speaker 7: We hold on one second, though, Vic, I've got to
- 41:13Speaker 7: ask you, I wouldn't have paid Jalen Naylor three years
- 41:19Speaker 7: and thirty five million dollars twenty three guarantee you have
- 41:22Speaker 7: paid Alex Peers thirty million dollars agreed, Agreed, Although, I
- 41:26Speaker 7: mean he works well with Daniel Jones and he's a
- 41:28Speaker 7: homegrown guy there.
- 41:29Speaker 4: That being said, the Raiders isn't Jerry Rice.
- 41:33Speaker 3: What is this?
- 41:35Speaker 7: The Raiders are gonna draft Mendoza. Yeah, they signed Naylor
- 41:39Speaker 7: away from Minnesota, although I mean.
- 41:41Speaker 6: He was good but not great there yet Linderbaum to
- 41:43Speaker 6: have him have at a veteran.
- 41:46Speaker 4: Center, who's going to protect the gut all the time.
- 41:50Speaker 7: They signed Quitty pay, they signed Dean, they signed Walker.
- 41:55Speaker 7: They they really bolstered their defensive side knowing they're going
- 41:59Speaker 7: to get the number one and picking the draft and
- 42:00Speaker 7: a quarterback and signed.
- 42:03Speaker 4: A wide receiver. I don't know, Listen, it.
- 42:06Speaker 7: May not work out at all and they probably overpaid
- 42:08Speaker 7: for every single guy, or at least maybe a little bit,
- 42:12Speaker 7: but damn it not standing Pat, I mean the ego
- 42:18Speaker 7: Fernando Kansas City got better. Chargers didn't really do Jack Squad.
- 42:22Speaker 7: But I don't know, man, it's this. Do you VIC
- 42:27Speaker 7: worry about the rest of the division at all? Do
- 42:28Speaker 7: you pay attention to what anybody else is doing at all?
- 42:31Speaker 6: I'm not too worried about the Raiders, but I mean
- 42:35Speaker 6: Chiefs got better yesterday.
- 42:36Speaker 3: They did.
- 42:38Speaker 6: Kenneth Walker is a big signing for them. I just
- 42:40Speaker 6: saw a graphic. Do you know who the Chiefs leading
- 42:42Speaker 6: rusher is since twenty eighteen?
- 42:45Speaker 4: It's Mahomes.
- 42:46Speaker 6: He's ran for more yards than any other running back
- 42:49Speaker 6: in Kansas City.
- 42:50Speaker 8: Well, they've brought in running backs. They just can't see
- 42:52Speaker 8: m a stick. But it was right back after running
- 42:55Speaker 8: back after running back, and.
- 42:56Speaker 4: They drafted them. They brought them in. They've done a
- 42:58Speaker 4: lot of different things.
- 42:59Speaker 8: It's not like they have no They have tried. But
- 43:01Speaker 8: that's how do we know Kenneth Walker is gonna stick
- 43:04Speaker 8: this again? I go back to the beginning of the season.
- 43:07Speaker 8: Kenneth Walker couldn't even keep his job in his own
- 43:10Speaker 8: on his own team.
- 43:11Speaker 6: He was still their number one back VIC he was he.
- 43:13Speaker 3: Was it was a dual operation there. He wasn't their
- 43:15Speaker 3: number one back. Operation you know you're rewriting history. No
- 43:18Speaker 3: he wasn't. Yes he was. No, he wasn't.
- 43:21Speaker 8: Vic It was a dual operation in Seattle all season long.
- 43:24Speaker 6: It was a two back system. He was their number one.
- 43:27Speaker 6: He was he has been.
- 43:29Speaker 3: Okay, I wanted Kenneth Walker. Two things can be true.
- 43:34Speaker 8: I love his game, I love the way he runs.
- 43:36Speaker 8: I do, but to make him sound like the second
- 43:40Speaker 8: coming of you name the great running back Barry Sanders,
- 43:45Speaker 8: I mean, let's calm down a little bit.
- 43:47Speaker 6: I don't know who's doing that. I don't know who's
- 43:49Speaker 6: saying that. I'm not, Oh I am, I'm just I
- 43:53Speaker 6: mean most I think you're with me on this. All
- 43:55Speaker 6: I wanted was somebody that's a little bit of insurance
- 43:57Speaker 6: for JK. Dobbins. I wanted JK. Dobbins back. They did that, sure,
- 44:01Speaker 6: and that's why I thought, like a guy like Algier
- 44:04Speaker 6: got six million dollars a year, but nothing that's a
- 44:06Speaker 6: drop in the buck.
- 44:07Speaker 7: Agree, But let me go back, let me go back
- 44:09Speaker 7: to what Vick was saying, and let me prop pick
- 44:11Speaker 7: up here a little bit. The trust earned by this
- 44:15Speaker 7: front office in this franchise is big. It's a lot,
- 44:20Speaker 7: and I think that we should hang our hats on
- 44:22Speaker 7: that until they.
- 44:24Speaker 4: Prove us otherwise.
- 44:25Speaker 7: Now, if we get into the week nine of the
- 44:27Speaker 7: regular season and they're sitting there at four and five
- 44:30Speaker 7: and you're going, crap this offensive stage, he get any
- 44:35Speaker 7: skill players at all for this offense?
- 44:37Speaker 4: Look at them, they're jumped.
- 44:38Speaker 7: Now, if we do that, fine, but I think they've
- 44:43Speaker 7: earned our trust to that point. Clearly, Davis Webb is
- 44:46Speaker 7: a guy that they feel is gonna call a good game.
- 44:49Speaker 7: They've given him that duty. Maybe it'll be more dynamic
- 44:53Speaker 7: than it was before with the guys you got. I
- 44:55Speaker 7: guess I'm electing to be optimistic about this a little bit.
- 44:59Speaker 7: You should be, though, I'm with you. I would like
- 45:01Speaker 7: to have more skill guys in there this. These guys
- 45:06Speaker 7: have earned it.
- 45:06Speaker 4: They really have.
- 45:09Speaker 6: Three oh three five four O nine two five still
- 45:11Speaker 6: plenty to talk about with this. Do you want to
- 45:13Speaker 6: get back to the Nuggets and question is this Are
- 45:19Speaker 6: the Nuggets still in your mind capable of competing for
- 45:24Speaker 6: a championship. We'll get to it next