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The One Where Lala Gets Real About Childbirth and Pregnancy · Untraditionally Lala

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  Speaker 1: Hey, babes, it is Lala Kent with my writer Die
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  Speaker 1: Jessica again.
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  Speaker 2: Hi everyone, it's me again.
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  Speaker 1: Yay, welcome to the Give Them Lala Podcast. Last night's episode,
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  Speaker 1: let's just get into it, you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I haven't seen it yet, so Lala, I need to
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  Speaker 2: know what to.
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  Speaker 1: Expect, what to expect. There's a party for Charlie. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: they are trying to get her food issues to go away, which,
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  Speaker 1: let me be very very clear on this. We'll obviously
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  Speaker 1: discuss this at the reunion. But when I learned about
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  Speaker 1: Charlie's food issues, there was no context behind them. It
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  Speaker 1: was just kind of you know what she said last
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  Speaker 1: year or two years ago, I don't eat pasta because
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  Speaker 1: I have a theory that it makes you gain weight. Right,
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  Speaker 1: that was all I knew about it. I was like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that seems strange. Don't get it then, is you? You know,
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  Speaker 1: as we've heard her talk about, you know, her childhood trauma,
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  Speaker 1: it all makes so much sense, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And I wasn't invited to that party where everyone else was,
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  Speaker 1: and they all brought different food for her to try.
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  Speaker 2: Wait, you weren't invited?
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  Speaker 3: Why?
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  Speaker 1: No? I was like an outsider. Oh you know, this
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  Speaker 1: season was so strange for me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just because I was a brand new mom. You know,
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  Speaker 1: I work really hard in my program. And that's not
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  Speaker 1: to say that I don't have these like issues that
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  Speaker 1: I still need to work on, because I definitely do.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, AA is not just to stop drinking.
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  Speaker 1: It's to really get down to the root of all
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  Speaker 1: of your issues and really just become a better human being. Granted,
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  Speaker 1: when you become sober, you don't become Jesus and start
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  Speaker 1: walking on water and turning the other cheek and becoming
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  Speaker 1: this like, oh my gosh, incredible person. We're human beings.
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  Speaker 1: We make mistakes, and the problem is is I this
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  Speaker 1: season was having to pay for mistakes that I felt
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  Speaker 1: I had already paid for. Yeah, if that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: that does.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And perceptions are real, bitch, because the way I see
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  Speaker 1: things is not going to be the same as Sina
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  Speaker 1: seeing things, or Ariana or sand of all. So it's
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  Speaker 1: really the root of how things go badly.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And when you watch this season so far and
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  Speaker 2: watched last night's episode and saw the party happening with
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  Speaker 2: you not invited, do you feel a different way now
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  Speaker 2: than you did when it was happening, or do you
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  Speaker 2: feel how do you feel about it.
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  Speaker 1: When it was happening. I was really trying to like
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  Speaker 1: put it to the side because I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: bring that energy home to ocean. Yeah, but at this
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  Speaker 1: point in my life watching a bag, I have much
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  Speaker 1: bigger fish to fry, right, you know, right, Yes, I
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  Speaker 1: take it one minute at a time, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: a seven month old can't sit around and wait for
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  Speaker 1: you to get over shit.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you better keep your fucking head up and do
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  Speaker 1: your thing. Yeah, So that's what I do.
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  Speaker 2: And that's sort of what I was talking about when
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  Speaker 2: I said last week, like the most inspiring soldiering through,
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  Speaker 2: let's keep going with the day. It's incredible. And I
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  Speaker 2: know you're dealing with a lot, but you also have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of us who support you and love you
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  Speaker 2: and ride or die for you. And I think you
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  Speaker 2: have moments where you feel that and I love to
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  Speaker 2: see those moments.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. I just never thought that my life would
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  Speaker 1: be where it is right now, you know, And that's okay, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's totally fine. And there's moments where I have pits
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  Speaker 1: in my stomach and I'm like, I need God to
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  Speaker 1: take over right now because it's too much, and he does.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, this is a new chapter. It's like I've
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  Speaker 2: heard you say it multiple times before with your last book,
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  Speaker 2: give them La La. You're like, I feel like I've
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  Speaker 2: lived a thousand lifetimes since that book came out, and
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  Speaker 2: look at this. It's almost like I'm witnessing you literally
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  Speaker 2: step into a new chapter.
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  Speaker 1: It's crazy because I look back on that book and
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  Speaker 1: you know, I was digging into stories from the time
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  Speaker 1: I was like a child too, when my dad died,
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  Speaker 1: through my drinking and what led me to get sober,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, this feels like I don't recognize the
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  Speaker 1: person that I'm writing about. Yeah, isn't that strange?
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  Speaker 2: That's so strange. But it's so do you look at
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  Speaker 2: your life because I do as sort of chapters like
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  Speaker 2: to me, you saying that you look back on that
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  Speaker 2: book and you're like, whoa, what was that life like?
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  Speaker 2: To me, it was like a completely different literal chapter.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I just always look at life as like chapters and like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my god, chapter six was wild. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like I don't.
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  Speaker 1: Know, I look at it that way. Yeah, I for
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  Speaker 1: sure look at it as chapters and you have to
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  Speaker 1: be grateful for every experience because you know what I've
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  Speaker 1: been through in my life, which people have been through
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  Speaker 1: much crazier and traumatic things than I have been through.
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  Speaker 1: Those people inspire me, who deal with things with grace
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  Speaker 1: and they they come out on top even with the
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  Speaker 1: hand they were dealt for me. I look at it
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, I would never have ocean, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like this independence that I have wouldn't be here. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just feels amazing, Like, yes, I have moments, but
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  Speaker 1: I will say I feel so hopeful and happy.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. That's amazing. That's I mean, I see
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  Speaker 2: it like it's it's incredible, hopeful, happy and how great
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  Speaker 2: it is to say. Not everyone can say this wala.
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  Speaker 2: Not everyone can say wow. I look back at that
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  Speaker 2: chapter of my life or look back at the book
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  Speaker 2: and I don't even really recognize that person. That means
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  Speaker 2: you're growing, you're growing, you're changing. It's like it's all
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  Speaker 2: you know, it's all over the place. I see memes
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  Speaker 2: about you know, you've changed. Well, thank god I have.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not supposed to be the same person. That means
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  Speaker 2: you're listening you're learning, you're educating yourself, you're allowing yourself
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  Speaker 2: to grow, which some people never do.
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  Speaker 1: Some people never do.
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  Speaker 2: And they're stuck in their same ways and they can
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  Speaker 2: look back at something they did ten years ago and
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  Speaker 2: be like, yep, that was me. I'm the same God. No, Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's just not you.
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  Speaker 1: That's true. And I feel like if anyone doesn't want
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  Speaker 1: if anyone doesn't fit into your evolution, and if your
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  Speaker 1: evolution involves you being happy or healthy, and there are
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  Speaker 1: a lot of pluses to the changes you've made, and
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  Speaker 1: people don't fit into that anymore, not my issue. I'm
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  Speaker 1: burning the bridge.
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  Speaker 2: I love that burn the bridge, and.
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  Speaker 1: I don't care if I end up with three people
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  Speaker 1: around me, because you know they're real. If you're a
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  Speaker 1: quality person, that to me trumps the quantity.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't need a million friends. I need my mom,
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  Speaker 1: I need you. Oh yay, you know my family obviously
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  Speaker 1: those are a given. Yeah, and my husband's.
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  Speaker 2: Love the husbands. Yeah, shout out load.
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  Speaker 1: I love you. Well.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's incredible. And I think just like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: even from the person that I met what is it now,
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  Speaker 2: six months ago? Yeah, you have like like I watch
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  Speaker 2: you and I'm like, oh my god, this is amazing.
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  Speaker 2: I am learning at so many things right before my eyes,
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  Speaker 2: and it's really it's really inspiring.
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  Speaker 1: You're the best, jess I always like I I've told
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  Speaker 1: you this before. At night, Jessica and her boyfriend Kyle
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  Speaker 1: have been added to my prayers. And I don't pray
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  Speaker 1: for many, you know, I tell God just like, be
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  Speaker 1: with those who need you. Whatever you take from that,
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  Speaker 1: God is what you take from it. But it's like,
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  Speaker 1: right now, that's the only thing I can lean on,
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  Speaker 1: is like a higher power.
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  Speaker 2: Higher power and prayer and Ocean and Laala are in
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  Speaker 2: my prayers every night. And my mom and dad now
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  Speaker 2: pray for Ocean, Laala and Lisa.
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  Speaker 1: Love Mama and Papa Walter. That's I'm sure love them.
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  Speaker 3: Just shout out Amy and Jake.
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  Speaker 1: So with all of that being said, I'm excited for
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  Speaker 1: today's podcast because last week it was a Mommy podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Britt was on Yeah, and after the podcast my writer died.
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  Speaker 1: Jessica was like, I have so many questions about childbirth,
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  Speaker 1: you guys.
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  Speaker 2: I have so many questions. And here's the thing. I
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of friends and family who have had babies,
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  Speaker 2: but they seem to only talk about the beautiful part.
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  Speaker 2: And let's be honest, we know having a baby is miraculous.
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  Speaker 2: It's beautiful, but there are some gnarly aspects.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So, so Jessica is going to ask us all
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  Speaker 1: of the fun and yummy questions about childbirth. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: also going to have my mom weigh in because her
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  Speaker 1: birthing experience with me was not great. It was actually
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  Speaker 1: very traumatic. So when we come back, Jessica's going to
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  Speaker 1: ask us questions, my Mom's going to weigh in. I'm
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  Speaker 1: so excited. We'll be right back. We are back and
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  Speaker 1: we are talking about all things yummy with childbirth. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: can I tell you something just yeah, my mom will
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  Speaker 1: say the same thing. After I gave birth to Ocean.
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  Speaker 1: Like during my labor, which I had a very easy labor,
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  Speaker 1: there were I have a low pain tolerance, so there
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  Speaker 1: were moments where I was like, this is hard. Why
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  Speaker 1: did no one warn me? And then after I gave birth,
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  Speaker 1: I was like, this is why no one warns you?
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  Speaker 1: Because you literally forget, yeah, about anything that was traumatic
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  Speaker 1: or hard. It just kind of like leaves your memory.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I figured, And like I said, I know
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  Speaker 2: childbirth is beautiful, but what I think happens is like,
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  Speaker 2: here's the thing. I won't talk to my pregnant friends
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  Speaker 2: about these things because I've tried before and I can
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  Speaker 2: see it filling their head with thoughts and anxiety. But
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  Speaker 2: then once they have the baby, it's like I ask
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  Speaker 2: these questions and it's almost like no pain ever existed,
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  Speaker 2: no gross things ever exist, because like, you have a
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  Speaker 2: human now, so all of that just goes away, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I've got question.
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  Speaker 1: All right, ask away. Let's get it pop in.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I have a list, ladies and gentlemen, Lisa, please
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  Speaker 2: say hi to everyone.
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  Speaker 3: Hello, everyone, good morning.
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  Speaker 2: I love Lisa. Lisa's iconic. She's gigie.
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  Speaker 1: We know. She see your face and she said good morning.
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  Speaker 1: She looked like, what if people listen and it's not morning. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, mama. They got it, they get it.
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  Speaker 2: So here's the thing. I'm going to ask all the questions, Lisa.
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  Speaker 2: If you don't feel comfortable answering some, then you don't
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  Speaker 2: have to. But you know what you guys, Lisa is
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  Speaker 2: an open book like her daughter Laala, So I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we won't have that problem.
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  Speaker 3: I was just gonna say that I'm a totally open book.
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  Speaker 3: So here we go, Here we go.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, we're going to start with an easy one. This
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  Speaker 2: is a very easy one, but I'm curious about it. Sickness. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so some I want to know about morning sick night sickness.
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  Speaker 2: I have this fear of throwing up. I hate throwing up.
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  Speaker 2: So the thought of becoming pregnant, Like, what happens. You
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  Speaker 2: become pregnant, and then weeks in you get sick in
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  Speaker 2: the morning, you get sick at night. Does it only
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  Speaker 2: last for a couple of weeks? What's the deal?
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  Speaker 4: So with my experience, I was sick from the get
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  Speaker 4: go with Lauren. I got sick in the morning and
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  Speaker 4: at night. And I literally this is so gross, But
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  Speaker 4: I was driving to work one morning literally threw up
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  Speaker 4: in my lap. Yes, yes, very gnarly.
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  Speaker 1: How long did it last?
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  Speaker 3: Mom? About three months? Three months? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So it wasn't you just being nauseated, You like actually
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  Speaker 1: tossed your cookies often, often.
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  Speaker 3: At work, in the car at home.
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  Speaker 1: Great, did you go to work with vomit all over yourself?
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  Speaker 4: Well, on that particular day, I had obviously to turn
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  Speaker 4: around and go home and change, But yeah, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was something you mean that people didn't want you
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  Speaker 1: to perform, to work with vomit in your lap on
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  Speaker 1: them or in my teeth, yummy, if you asked for it,
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  Speaker 1: Jess with Ocean, I was nauseated and I couldn't stomach
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  Speaker 1: a lot of things. But I actually only threw up twice,
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  Speaker 1: like actually, but the nausea I felt was like all
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  Speaker 1: day long. Really yeah, it really was.
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  Speaker 3: And you know what else got me? Smells?
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  Speaker 4: Oh, the smellmells were horrific, you know it just anything
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  Speaker 4: would trigger me, Like I went. I remember going to
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  Speaker 4: subway one day and I walked in the door and
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  Speaker 4: I immediately had to leave because I just the combination
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  Speaker 4: of the smells got to me.
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  Speaker 1: Which is so strange because I walk into a subway
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like, ooh, I can smell all sorts of things.
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  Speaker 1: What do I order?
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  Speaker 3: And now me and meatball subs are best friends.
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  Speaker 1: Best friends. We've had one about every day this week.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you Subway. Same smells God to me too. But again,
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  Speaker 1: it only lasted three months and then and then it
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  Speaker 1: goes away. It just one day you wake up and
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  Speaker 1: you're not sick anymore. Britney was sick, morning, noon, and
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  Speaker 1: night until she gave birth.
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  Speaker 2: Really yeah, like throwing up.
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  Speaker 1: Sick, vomiting all night long and all day. Like we
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  Speaker 1: could never get together. It was okay because granted we
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  Speaker 1: were in COVID, so we shouldn't have been getting together anyway.
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  Speaker 1: Like that was it was like, okay, I'm okay with
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  Speaker 1: this because we can't get together anyway. Yeah, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: she had a really tough pregnancy. But after three months
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  Speaker 1: I was digging it really. Oh my gosh. Okay.
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  Speaker 2: So then this leads me to cravings again. And not
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  Speaker 2: the most exciting question you guys, but I need to
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  Speaker 2: know this because I crave sweets all the time. Like
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  Speaker 2: do your cravings stay the same but they just elevate
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  Speaker 2: or are they completely different?
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  Speaker 1: I like this question, Mom, what did you crave? Do
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  Speaker 1: you remember?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know?
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  Speaker 4: I don't remember craving anything. I think it was more
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  Speaker 4: trying to find something that sounded.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, we're so on the same page. I was so
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  Speaker 1: excited when I got pregnant because whether people want to
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  Speaker 1: believe this or not, I have a huge appetite, Like
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  Speaker 1: I am a snacker. I love food. But then I
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  Speaker 1: got pregnant and I was so excited. I'm like, I
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  Speaker 1: can eat whatever I want. I don't even care. And
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  Speaker 1: nothing sounded good except sushi and chocolate cake. And when
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  Speaker 1: you're pregnant, your doctor will tell you, like, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: have sushi, so I didn't. Yeah, but like nothing even
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  Speaker 1: perrier didn't sound good. Shocker, shocked and shook to my
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  Speaker 1: core about that. Wow, I know nothing sounded good really,
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  Speaker 1: And even like you hear about people wanting pickles and
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  Speaker 1: things like that, yeah, I don't want to pickle.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, never wanted to pickle. That was never never anything
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  Speaker 4: I thought about.
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  Speaker 1: Lisa wanted a different kind of pickle.
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  Speaker 2: And on that note, these are this is one of
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  Speaker 2: the questions you guys, I'm just gonna be jumping around
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  Speaker 2: so horniness. I have heard that that some pregnant women
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  Speaker 2: are completely disgusted by sex the entire time. And I'm
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  Speaker 2: saying I've heard that from friends. Okay, other women it's
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  Speaker 2: the horniest they've ever been, they can't stop, and other
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  Speaker 2: women it comes and goes in phases. So do you
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  Speaker 2: care to speak on that, either one of you?
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  Speaker 4: So mine was just do I want to hear that
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  Speaker 4: day on? So I was just never never got hornier
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  Speaker 4: or didn't want it. It was just even kill for me.
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  Speaker 4: So I wasn't affected either way.
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't it was even killed. I just needed it
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  Speaker 1: twice a day like I always do, and I'm good,
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  Speaker 1: look at her, noddy her hand.
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  Speaker 3: You know what you're gonna die.
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  Speaker 4: But when I started showing, like five six months, my
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  Speaker 4: husband was kind of like, not really.
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  Speaker 3: I think he felt like it was kind.
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  Speaker 1: Of like his peepee was going to hit your kids
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  Speaker 1: in the face. Yes, yes, I've Yeah, that's really common
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  Speaker 1: because like when I went into my obie, he would
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  Speaker 1: stick his fingers up there and be like, I feel
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  Speaker 1: the head and I'm like, oh, no, wonder you know
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  Speaker 1: men are like, I don't want to put my peepe
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  Speaker 1: up there. If you don't want your child's first thing
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  Speaker 1: to touch them be that.
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  Speaker 2: Wait stop really the fingers thing? So yes, zenus penises
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  Speaker 2: could touch Oh my god, Well, depending on who you are,
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  Speaker 2: could touch the baby. Yeah, did you speak on your horniness?
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  Speaker 1: Were you at five months? I would look at the
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  Speaker 1: corner of a couch and be like that put it
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  Speaker 1: underneath me. I need to sit on it. I need
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  Speaker 1: to maneuver on it. That is turning me on. I
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  Speaker 1: was beyond torny it five months. Really, it's all I
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  Speaker 1: thought about.
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  Speaker 2: Interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody's so different.
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know had my little handy dandy fingers.
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  Speaker 1: We love the job done.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to ask this to Lisa. Lisa, how many
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: times did you have sex per week, per month when
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: you were pregnant?
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, you're asking a woman that delivered thirty
• 18:05
  Speaker 4: one years ago.
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: Let me think about this.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: You're a freak. Tell us we.
• 18:11
  Speaker 4: Were probably on the norm two to three times a week.
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: Oh my god on the north.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Oh is that norm? Kyle? You hear that.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: We gotta step it up a little.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Bit, Okabe?
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I know you, Lisa love it.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: Okay, So then you guys, like I said, I'm gonna
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: jump all over the place. I need to know about
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: nipples because let me tell you something right now. A
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: few weeks ago, Laala just casually mentioned that nipples change
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: when you get pregnant, and I audibly gasped, because what
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: do you mean? What do you mean? Well?
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I may or may not have shown Jessica, because I
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: was like, you have to see, this had to have
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: been a little bit ago. It was like you had
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: just been hired, But my nipples got so big and
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: so dark, and like the areola part, like not the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: actual nipple that stayed the same, but the areola was
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: like a giant melted Hershey's kiss me.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: On the other hand, not so much.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lisa has the tiniest nipples you'll ever see, Nile
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: so Jesse. You guys know, we have like this makeshift
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: setup for the podcast and Lisa and Jessica to share
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: a mic, So if you hear one of them in
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: the distance, just know we're gonna pull our shit together
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: at some point. But a lot of things are changing,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: so just roll with it for a minute.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Sorry.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: So there's that on nipples. But I love darker nipples. Yeah.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: So I when my nipples got dark, I was like, oh,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: they're so cute.
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: Are they little dark?
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: No, they're back to normal. But it's a real thing. Yeah,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: when women say like, my baby sucked the life out
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: of my boobs, it's a real thing.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Really.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I look at my boobs and I'm like,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: they used to be so cute and perky and like fake,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: and now they're like sad balloons.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: Well, you know that's another thing talking about nursing, Like
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: I tried to nurse Lauren for I wanted to do
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: it at least six months, but I didn't have the
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: milk supply and Lauren, on the other hand, was just producing, producing,
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: producing machine. I had to supplement with bottles, but I.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: Didn't because of my mom telling me like it was
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: difficult for her to nurse. I and I've said this before,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: was not married to the idea of nursing. I always
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: thought like, nursing is a privilege. Even if you want
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: to do it, you may not be able to. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: that's why it always bothers me when people would ask me,
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: are you going to It's like, well, I hope, but
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that's sometimes not an option. You don't know how much
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: milk you'll produce. You don't know if your baby will latch.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: And I wanted to be no, like, your baby lived
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: inside of you for nine months. Whether it's on the
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: boob or on a bottle, you're bonded. It doesn't matter exactly.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: That's a great yeah, my mom. I know my mom
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: tried to nurse. There's five of us siblings. My mom
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: tried to nurse most of us, but I think two
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: of us didn't take And you know.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: It's definitely cheaper if you're able to nurse, if you're
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: oh really, oh yeah, you don't have to pay for that.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: It just comes through the boobies.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, Lauren had she was very colicky, so I
• 21:29
  Speaker 4: had to when I supplemented her, I had to buy
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: a formula and it was fifteen dollars a can. And
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: this is thirty one years ago, like fifteen dollars. I
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: don't even know what it is now.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: It was called.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I thought it was new New trimmin or something like that.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was something like that.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I saw it the other day. It
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: does still exist. And you know, when you're nursing, you
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: also have to be careful about what you eat. Because
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: I ate cauliflower one day and Ocean had. She screamed
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: morning until night until it was out of her system.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: It was horrific.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: That is crazy. So because she had like gas or something, yeah.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Her gap, it was gases. You know, because at that time,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure out how to push things
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: out of their system. They don't know you have a
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: tummy ache, and you're like, what do I do? When
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: you're a grown asked woman, You're like, gotta go to
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: the bathroom, lay on my belly, push it out, you know,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: but she's just a little infant, Like, what is this feeling?
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the videos? I this is off topic,
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's not one of my questions. But nowadays of the
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: women who I literally just saw this first video a
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: couple months ago, the women or men who take their
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: baby's feet and like push the gas out.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: I had to do that a lot with Ocean.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, and it just comes out.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's actually very satisfying.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: And you know what else I had to do with
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: my babies is they would get constipated, so I'd have
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to give them suppositories.
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I mean, like there's a lot that stuff that goes
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: into caring for these little guys.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I mean totally no, you're absolutely right. Because when Ocean
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: was born, if they don't poop within twenty four hours,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that's a sign of jaundice. And the nurse had to
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: come in and put a little vacoline on like the
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: tip of this thermometer and like massage inside so that
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: she would have a poop.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: She couldn't go home right until she had that first.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Pis she she couldn't go home until they cleared her
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: for and then literally I was I gave birth on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a Monday, I got to go home on a Tuesday,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: and literally on Thursday, I was taking her to the doctor.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They had already been in communication, my pediatrician and cedar
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: Cyan I, so he knew what he was looking for.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Wow, my pediatrician, Yeah that is wow. See I didn't
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: know any of that. Okay. So then with breast milk,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: that was another question.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: By the way, what breast milk is not just for
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: feeding your baby if your baby gets little acne or
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: anything like that, Like the other day, Ocean got a
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: little mosquito bite. Yeah, I put the breast milk on
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: it and it literally went down the next day.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: That's how amazing is that something your body produces as
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: like a miracle milk?
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: And I wish I had known that back in the
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: day because at five weeks Lauren got these little those
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: little pimplest baby.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: It's really common.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: And some breast milk would have totally cleared it up.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: And I was putting all this other stuff on it
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: because nobody told me.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's a lot when you have a baby
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: and you're just expected there the hospital's like here, you
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: go take it home and you're like, what do I
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: do with it?
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: I have to keep this alive. Well, that's breast milk sells,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: probably illegally, I don't know, but for a pretty penny
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: online to like bodybuilders.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: I know I've heard that. Yeah, there's like a market,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: a huge market market.
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: Well, speaking of breast milk, so obviously this is different
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: then from what you said. Women produce breast milk differently.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But one of my questions is, obviously your boobs start
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: getting so then when do you know that you have breastmlke?
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Do they randomly start leaking one day?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: No? I So in January I had wet spots on
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: my pj's and I was like, what is this. I
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: ran to my mom and I was like, what is this?
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: And she's like, that's claws strum it's coming in because
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: it was like this orange, not orange, but like yellow,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: like a yellow. Ye. No, it's basically the fat that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: comes like this, the fatty part that comes in before,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: and it's very rich. It comes in first, and your baby,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: if you're able to breastfeed, will take that first because
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: it's got a lot of nutrients in it. And then
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: your milk comes in, right, But my tits were so big, Jess,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: they were awesome. I was like, these are the funnest bags.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: Ever, you know.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: And it's interesting too, because a lot of women will say, oh,
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: I felt my milk come in are or they'd be
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: so in gorge that they'd have to get in the
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: shower to relieve it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I never had that ever, ever.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: No, I had to actually see. I pumped a lot
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: as well because I had a lot of milk, and
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: when I was doing Watch What Happens Live in September,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: I didn't take my pump because I'm like, I'm breastfeeding
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: her just in the morning, afternoon, night, right, Yeah, her
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: teeth are coming in. By the way, there's nothing more
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: painful than feeling a little baby tooth rip your nipple.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: It is excruciating. But I was like, I won't need
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: to I can't imagine that that much milk would come in,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: and it did. I was literally sitting in the shower
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: warming my boobs up and just pushing on them and
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: it was just like squirming everywhere.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: I need to know, then, did you ever get curious
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: and turn it towards your mouth and try a little.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: Well, breast milk is like liquid gold. So if there
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: was a bottle that Ocean took and she didn't finish it, yeah,
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: I would drink it because I didn't want it to
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: go to waste. And you know it's only good for
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a certain amount of time. Yeah, so I would drink it. Yeah.
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: But I was producing so much that I froze so much.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: You know.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: And I think going into this, I think I attribute
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: some of my not being able to breastfeed, not Milt
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: not coming in.
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: I had postpartum depression.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love that you mentioned that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: What was though?
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I remember you telling me, Mom that your best friend
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Sid whose daughter is my best friend, we both have
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: babies that are six months apart. We started to give
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: them Lalla baby together. And you told me because you
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: had your first baby when she was having her last,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: which is Olivia, and it was her fourth, and she
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: would come into your house and open the drapes you
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: to the mall totally.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: I would be in my pajamas all day, the drape strawn,
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: the TV wasn't on.
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: She'd come over and.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: She'd say, well, of course you're depressed, and she'd rip
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: open the rapes, turn on the TV, get me dressed,
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: make me go to the mall or do something. But
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: you know what was so freaky is I would be
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: doing something at that moment. Like I remember we were
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: at the mall and I was worried about what I
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: was going to be doing the next day or the
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: next week.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It was. It was not a good mind space for me.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: That's depression, where you're concerned about where your headspace is
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: going to be when you have to go home.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a really common thing. And it's a huge
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: reason your experience mom was a huge reason why I
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: used Mommy made, which they encapsulate your placenta and you
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: have to remember your body forms an organ that it
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: then just gets rid of.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: That is so amazing.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think you guys are so lucky
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: in this day and age because mental health is spoken about.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: Back it was spoken about, but I didn't talk about it. Yeah,
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you know, but it was like taboo.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: And then I remember I would go in for be
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: twelve shots and they wanted to put me on an
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: antidepressant and I was too afraid that I would be
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: locked in and to what's the word I want to say,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: dependent dependent on it? Yeah, you thought you'd be dependent
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: on the ansid, right.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Which is nothing wrong with taking an antidepressant.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: But now in the day, it was just a different
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: day and age it was, and now everything is spoken about.
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: There's so many outlets for you to call and understand
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: what it is that you're feeling. We talk about chemical imbalances,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: what happens after you give birth, and even beyond that exactly.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: It's like, I say, you guys are so so lucky
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: that you're in this day and age.
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: And that was another question I had about the placenta.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So obviously it's an organ that comes out of your body.
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: I have heard there's different ways. First things. First, I've
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: heard the rumors that eating your placenta ingesting it after
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: you have a baby can help with postpartum depression. Yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: did you find that accurate?
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: You know, I would feel I suffered from heavy depression
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: while I would like the first few months of my pregnancy,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and I felt guilty because I'm like, how when my
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: body is creating something that is you can give me
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: all of the scientific facts in the world on how
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a baby is created and how it's born. Yeah, I
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: don't give a shit. That is nothing short of a
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: miracle period. So I would sit there and be like,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: how are you depressed? You're creating a miracle right now.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: So I got into this weird headspace. Luckily it subsided,
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: but there were times after, you know, I gave birth
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: that I'd be like, I'm a little down today. And
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: you know, Mommy Made gives you instructions when you're feeling
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: this way, take four of those capsules and face chug them.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And I did, and it absolutely helped.
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: Really, yes, and I'm so thankful that you had that.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I mean that really is truly, You're so blessed to
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: have had that.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I recommend that to everybody you can find.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I actually follow Mommy Made on Instagram, so look them
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: up on my Instagram. They are the best. They made
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: it so easy for me. Literally, I just told my obi,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: by the way, I'm gonna eat this thing in a capsule,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: and he was like perfect. I brought my little cooler.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: They picked it up and a few days later it
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: was like, here's your pills.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: So that's what you do. You bring they give you
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: a cooler to bring yep, and then you give birth
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: and does the obgyn immediately put it in the cooler.
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: How does that work?
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they do whatever they do with the plus for
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: the placenta, and then they put it in the cooler
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: and your indirect contact with someone from Mommy Made. They say,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: we'll be there in whatever timeframe they pick it up,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: and you can actually look on their instagram on how
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: the process is done. It's crazy. And they even sent
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: oceans on bilical cord that was made into a heart
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: and painted, so I have that too.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: That's so sweet. And how many days after you're home
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: from the hospital or after you give birth do you
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: get the pills?
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: It was pretty immediate, really, yeah, like it was a
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: couple of days maybe, yeah, really it was fast.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: And it's just a free I'm assuming, like freeze dried placenta.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. And they're all colorful. You can
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: pick a flavor.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Isn't that the jar that you have on your counter?
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: That's that pretty? Like fisha ping?
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Yep, that's exactly what it is.
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: And so okay, okay, so well, like Lalla said, they
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: have it on their instagram how it's done, so check
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it out.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Just Mommy made?
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Mommy made encapsulation okay, yeah, and literally like my saving grace.
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: On that note, we're going to take a short break.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: We will be right back with all things birth. Okay,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: we're back. We've spoken about placentas. Are you gonna get
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: into nitty gritty because, by the way, you're gonna get
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: nitty gritty.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I've got the questions.
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, because by the way, what like, we haven't even
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: gotten into the part where they're like, time to put
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: the catheter in.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: See, now, this is the stuff I need to hear.
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: So and the enema.
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, I didn't have an enema. I had no.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: Wow, breaking news, Lisa had an enema when she was
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: giving birth to Laala. Everyone.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Wow, I didn't know that.
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: See how things have changed.
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: Maybe, Yeah, I was dilated to a five when I
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: got to the hospital and they immediately gave me an
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: enema and then they put the catheter.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh wow, okay, really quick on dilation. This
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: is the dumbest question ever, But I need to know
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: because it's it's mind blowing. So when they say dilated
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: to a five or dilated to let's say a nine, right, Oh,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: your baby's coming, Does that mean though that you they
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: go Laala's dilated to a seven? If you laid down
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: and spread your legs. Would I see a seven centimeter
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: hole right there? How does that?
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Is that?
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: How it goes?
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: So, you know, I'm not quite sure. All I know
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: is when you're at a ten, you are given birth.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Baby.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: But you you had your water break with me, right,
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: You weren't induced?
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: No, I was two weeks overdue with you. Okay. They
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: were telling me that they were.
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Gonna induce me on a Monday Sunday. I remember speaking
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: to Sid and all of a sudden, I'd have these
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: pains and then i'd have another pain, and she's like,
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: we're gonna time them.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, she's like, you're in labor.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: So I labored throughout the night at home, Okay, got
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: up at seven o'clock. Of course I didn't get up.
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: I was already at but Dad got up at seven
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: o'clock in the morning. We headed to the hospital and
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: I was dilated to a five and like I said,
• 34:47
  Speaker 4: and then at one twenty three, I had a baby girl.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it was not that new. Like tell I
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: fast forwarded much.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Now you a traumatic experience, very.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: Traumatic, Like I got in there and your heart rate dropped.
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: They had to put oxygen on me.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: And then the doctor came in and was looking at
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: the heartbeat papers. Back in the day, I don't know
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: what they do now, and he said, we have to
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: get this baby out.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: I had a nurse laying on my stomach. He was
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: inside me trying to flip the baby around. He got
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: four sets that were snapping, and I thought they were
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: pulling my baby's hat off. My poor mother did not
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: want to be in the delivery room. She was with me,
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: but once I was going to give birth, she wanted to,
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: you know, be out. She poor thing was pinned against
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: the wall and my best friend said was there, and
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: obviously my husband And all of a sudden, I'm pushing
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: there laying on my stomach and this purple this is
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: what Sid and Kent tell me, this purple like cone
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: starts appearing and they look at each other like, oh
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: my gosh, like what is wrong with this baby? Like
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: then she they got her out and they whist her
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: away to the nic U unit. For five hours, I
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: didn't even get to see her. I mean, mine was
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: a very traumatic berth, very traumatic.
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So what was the purple cone?
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Was that her head?
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: She was in the birth canal and though so that
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: was part of and the trauma of trying to get
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: her out.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Look at her now, no conehead, Miles.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Well, who knows that never shaved my head. I could
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: still be there, still be there.
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: Let's get in. I need to know the obvious. Okay,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: poop key and did the space I'm not going to
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: use medical terms. Did the space between your vagina and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: your butthole rip? So while you're pushing, did you poop?
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Did you pee? And did that space rip? I know
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: there's a medical term.
• 36:48
  Speaker 3: I didn't poop.
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: And as far as they they snipped me, Oh yeah,
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: they snipped me.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, wow eezyotomy you go, Glenn Coco, you know all
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: the medical No, they didn't snip me. I did not poop,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and there was no pee because I had a catheter
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: and had a cat by the way, it was awesome.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: Wait tell us about the catheter, because that makes me scared.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: Don't let it make you scared. The most traumatic part
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: of my birthing experience was the most basic, which is
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: when you go in and they put the ivy in
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: your arm. Really, oh yeah, I passed out twice. They
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: thought I was seizing but I wasn't seizing because Ocean's
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: heart rate didn't drop. Okay, but I was fully out
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: cold twice. I'm a freak when it comes to needles.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear them talking about I can't
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: find the vein. I'm like, I'm gonna pass out. That
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: is enough to make me black out and I'm just done. No.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: So once we got through that, and they did the epidural,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: which was no issue for me, like, just don't tell
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: me about it.
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: The epidural is the big thing up your spine.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, that numbs you, That numbs you.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: And everybody wanted to tell me their horror stories about
• 38:02
  Speaker 4: their epidural.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: So that was another fun fact.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Did you I learned? Was it fine?
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: It was a piece of cake.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Piece of cake for me too. They shoved it in
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: whatever I was. I was having anxiety about the fact
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: that I was so numb. I felt like humpty dumpty.
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: Really I felt like a rolling egg. I was like,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: this is I'm gonna freak out, like I can't feel
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: my legs, you know, and the reason you just know,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: you just know, your body just knows. Yeah, And I
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: kept asking them, am I doing it? And they're like
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you're doing fantastic, Like she's right, I'm looking at her.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: It was crazy.
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: So let's go back to the catheter. How do they
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: put that in?
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: They shove it little thing in your tea hole, in
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: your peep hole. Yeah, but you can't feel it because
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: you've already had your epidural. Okay, yeah, And then they
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: come in and empty the bag every so often. You're
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: straight chilling.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: So the bag is where can you see it filling up?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't see the bag. I couldn't see the bag.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: It was hung on the side of the bed.
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Yummy, who's horny? No, I didn't see the bag of
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: pea at all. In fact, they would come in to
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: check to see if I was dilated anymore, and it
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: was time to break my water, and I was so comfortable.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: After they broke my water, they were like, we're gonna
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: change the sheets because it's very wet, and I was like,
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: I can't feel anything, so just leave it.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Really yeah, yes, I remember that.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: I got the best sleep of my life.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: Really yes, Okay, then here's my question. We're going we're
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: moving on to pain because I have heard the comparison
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: use that I've heard multiple times is it's like a
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: football coming through your nostril. That doesn't seem accurate. But
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: like maybe if you don't have an epidural, did you
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: feel pain?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: You know, I was in pain up until I went
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: to the hospital, and that's right epidural. But I've also
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: been told I have that very high pain tolerance. I've
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: passed kidney stones twice on my own, so doctor.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Sad me that.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: So I don't know.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: De Savage, that's amazing.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: She would have done well in like the stone ages.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh do.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: You think I would?
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I would have died at the end of the world
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: comes she's on our team.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Because my apidural kind of wore off,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: like the button wasn't working. Yeah, and it like wasn't
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: that bad, but for me, it was excruciating. I was like,
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: this needs to be fixed with media.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: It was so you could feel the baby coming out ocean.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: It more is like cramping, like have you ever had
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: period cramps? Yes, of course, so intensify that by like
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: a hundred.
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, see that doesn't feel like it's that much pain
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: to me, though.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Well that's because you're a bad app by one hundred though, yeah, maybe,
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: But if someone out there like that doesn't sound that bad.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's horrific.
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: My thing is if I feel the hole at the
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: bottom of me like ripping.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: No, don't get that out of your head. You don't
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: even know you have a hole down there. Really, you're
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: so numb you don't know.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: Shit.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Okay, you forget you forget that you even have a
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: bottom half of your body. Really, yes, And when they're
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: telling you to push, yeah, you feel pressure, but it's
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: not painful. Now after it wears off and you go home,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: you feel like someone's taking a sledgehammer from the inside
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: of your vagina.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: Oh no, oh see now this lots of questions on this.
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: What did you have a donut? I don't remember. Did
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: you sit on the donut?
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Me too, bed though, what.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Do we mean by donut?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: We need to know.
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: It's like an inflatable inner tube that you sit on, sit.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: On when when you're in a city, at the table
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: or wherever you so that there's not direct pressure on
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: your huh. Okay, ok And I did rip a little bit.
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: I had like two stitches, and it was every time
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: you'd go to the bathroom, which, by the way, you can't.
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: Wipe you can't wipe, do they The stitches just dissolve.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Yes, they dissolve. But you they give you like this
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: little douchey thing. Yeah that you you pee, then you
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: spray it, then witch hazel pads for you to pat it, okay,
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: and then you let it air dry your vagina. Your vagina,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: you're pretty little.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Set air dry.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: Let it air dry. You're not supposed to rub it
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: at all, just gently pat okay.
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: And I liked the ice pads by Freda. There's like
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a giant pad you like, just snap it a little
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: bit and it releases the little things that make it cold. Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: those were a lifesaver. They also gave me spray to
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: numb it. But when you have a baby, yeah, go
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: and get either Depends or Secret diaper, you know diapers
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: by Secret, the little liner companies. Okay, so full sized diapers,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: full sized diapers. You're gonna live in them, and it's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: just so much easier to take them off and throw
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: them away for how long depending on how long you're bleeding.
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: I mean I was probably in mind for a good
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: three weeks.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: And you're bleeding just from your body is just bleeding.
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, you just had a baby there.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's so it's kind of the lining
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: sluffing off. Everything's kind of sluffing off.
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: And also if you ripped like I did, there's gonna
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: be a little bit of blood from that. It's just
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like your body just pushed out a living human being.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, nitty gritty, did you take a mirror and
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: look at your vagina? How different did it look like?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: What did it look like stretched? And how long until
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: it snaps back?
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: My cookie looked cuter after childbirth. Really, she snapped back
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: like a rubber band. Sure it did.
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: I don't remember looking at it. No, I don't know.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Really, it's interesting.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: Oh I remember laying in my closet spread eagle, being like,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you're a badass bitch.
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: Really and it snaps back because and I don't think
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: my mom would care about saying this, but my mom
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: did have five kids. So, like, I remember jumping on
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: the trampoline and she would come jump on the trampoline
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: with us and then be like, oh my god, I
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: have to get off the trempline because she was literally
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: peeing her pants.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Was it p though or juice? Because I juice way
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: more now that I've had ocean really.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so it's just like discharge.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: It's just whatever yumminess that is, like a slip and slide.
• 44:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, speaking of slip and slide, we're back to birth.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: Mucus plug. What in the world is a mucus plug?
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: And when does it come out? Lisa help?
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, so I heard about this. Do you know anything
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: about it? No?
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: I never even experienced that. But they had to break
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: my water.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So I had to break mine too. So I've heard
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: about the mucus plug. Yeah, but I didn't experience it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Okay, So my boyfriend Kyle knows a lot about childbirth
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: for some reason, and he said the mucus plug was
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: something that comes out before your water breaks, like the mucus.
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: It's like mucus in there.
• 44:52
  Speaker 3: I know this too because of Sid's daughter.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they were really into like what about her mucus plug?
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what that is.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But again, I was induced, so I was laying in
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: a hospital bed and they were just dealing with whatever
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: was happening down there.
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Okay, if anyone knows the exact thing of what a
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: mucus plug is, we're not going to google this comment
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: and lawless.
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: Photos on Instagram.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, or call in to the podcast. Yes, a call in, yes,
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: and tell us what a mucus plug is? Eight six
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: six La La pod because I want to know.
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: We all want to know. Okay, so we're back. You
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: had to wear a diaper?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: How long until you can have sex again? And is
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: it painful when you do?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: It? Was six weeks they recommend.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to have a six week check up
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: to clear before you can do anything.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, any sort of exercise, sex, finger banging yourself, all
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: of it.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Were you fine after six weeks, either of you? Or
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: did you have to wait? No?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: I was totally clear.
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: Good to know, good to know. What about douching, then,
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: is that just like a thing you have to do regularly?
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: You just like hold the douche.
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: Oh, you don't out, you don't know.
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Do You don't put any anything in there, and that's
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: just to clean it from the outside.
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: Because you don't get your affection right and you can
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: get an infection with putting things in there after you
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: have a baby.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, because it's all toe up in there. Oh, so
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you do it from the outside. You squirt it down,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: No soap, just warm water. Okay. And it's funny because
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: I remember you asking me about the smell.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it does it smell.
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: It doesn't smell bad. Okay, there's for me, it smelled
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: like medical and I actually I was obsessed with everything
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that was happening to my body after I gave birth.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: See, and that's what. And you just loved it. Because
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: you loved it, you have your miracle, like you have
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: a miracle in front of you.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: I just felt like I am a woman.
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: Hear me, roar.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I just gave like I have. I've never felt so
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: much like a strong, beautiful woman.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: And you were and looked like a strong beautiful woman
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and you are.
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you. But yeah, after childbirth, there's something that for me.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: I know that a lot of my friends struggled after
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: they gave birth with their body because your body is
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: not yours anymore. Yeah, your boobs are not just these
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: sexy things that are for Kyle to play with. Yes,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: those belong to the baby. They're feeding her. Your body
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: isn't yours anymore. Yeah. I was okay with that. I
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: loved it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you just felt like mama and you just have
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean that is I mean, hello,
• 47:25
  Speaker 2: that's beautiful, She's like.
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: And you know, I think both Lauren and I were
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: super lucky too, because at my six week checkup, I
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: was back to my pre pregnancy weight and I think
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: Lauren was too, which you know is we have to
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: be very grateful for that.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. And people ask me like, what did
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: you do? And I have to just say it was genetics.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because you didn't do anything spec and you didn't
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: even seem I mean, I started working for you three
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: months after Ocean was born, but you didn't seem you
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: were just like, I'm just it's not like you were
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: a woman who was like I need to get back
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: to this body. You were just like you seemed thankful
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: for your body and just like it's going to do
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: what it's going to do right now. Yeah.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: And I think when I express how I felt about
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: my body, there have been commons where it's like, well,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: of course you would think about your body that way,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, look at it, but mentally you don't think
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: that way after you give birth, right, you don't think,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, my bounce back is amazing. Like I
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: acknowledge as an outsider how people would say that, Yeah,
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: but mentally I still gave birth like everybody else. Yes,
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: I'm very lucky that my bounce back was very quick. Yeah,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: but I still felt like things are sitting different.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: That was another question. Oh, for sure, you know, is
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: your body forever change? Because I have a friend who
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: was like, who actually was happy about it, but she
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: was like, I never had hips. Look at these hips now. Yeah,
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: like I heard your hips sort of you blow out or.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really fit into any of my genes.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: I remember telling my mom, I need to go Jean
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: shopping so that I can and throw these out. And
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: she was like, no, no, no, you gotta wait because
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: now I fit right back into them.
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: So your body doesn't permanently change, or it does in
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: some ways.
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: I think it depends on who you are.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: I think it depends on who you are too.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I think some people get you know, curvier and more volumptuous,
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: and others, you know, go back to what they were before.
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: It just I think it's an individual thing for sure.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I felt like my body was. I loved
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: my body after I gave birth because I've always loved
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I've always loved women with me on them who are
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: curvy and volumptuous, like I've always wanted in the fall. Yeah,
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: like I've always loved that. I've always said, like, give
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  Speaker 1: me Ashley Graham on a silver platter and I will
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: be the happiest girl in the entire world. I am
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: grateful for my genetics. But I've always, even when I
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: was a young kid, wanted to be curvy. Yeah, like
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: big boobs, the hips, the big but I always wanted
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: that really yeah, and I've tried to get it in
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: the gym and it just doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's funny that we all want what we don't have.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, don't you feel that way?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, hello, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But my dream woman is curvy and sexy, and like,
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  Speaker 1: just give me all of the curves, all the curves.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, we love curbs. I love curves. Okay, this is
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: gonna be one of the last ones. But I do
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: want to know, because it's not clear to me. Can
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: you just breastfeed forever? Obviously, people, a lot of people,
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  Speaker 2: I mean most people wouldn't choose to do that. Can
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: you just some women just choose however long I want
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: to pump, you just have milk in there.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: You want to know what's so crazy is I was
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: watching Old school Housewives of Orange County and I remember
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Shannon Badore. She like mentioned that if she hears a
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: baby cry like she'll start lactating. And Andy Cohen asked
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: her about it on the Union and she was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I could still produce milk. So that's an interesting question.
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  Speaker 1: I've heard breast milk is supply and demand, like now
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: that ocean. It's funny because with her teeth coming in,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: depending on the day, if it's morning time, she'll sucky sucky,
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: no biting, nighttime sucky sucky, no biting. Mid day. It's
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: a chew toy, feed and bite. So for me, it's
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  Speaker 1: like supply and demand. If I used to feed her
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: every single meal from the boobe. Yeah, my boobs were huge,
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: just filled with milk. Now it's kind of lessened, but
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  Speaker 1: I think it is supply and demand if you choose
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: to feed your kid, even if it's once a day
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: from the boobe. I have heard of kids that are
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: like five still sucking on the baby.
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  Speaker 3: I actually have.
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  Speaker 4: A friend and she nursed her baby till I think
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: she was almost four.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: What I kid you not?
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  Speaker 2: That is incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It is because if you think about it, if the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: world comes to an and there's no food, you want
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  Speaker 1: to be with a mom who's nursing because we're all
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: going to need to take a turn.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, well, it goes back to I don't know the
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: actual like hardcore facts on the tribal days, but it
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: was like women would always that's why periods sync up,
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: you guys. And again we can fact check this with
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: an expert, but that's why periods sync up because it
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: was always easiest for women and tribes to be on
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: the same cycle, to give birth at the same to
• 52:27
  Speaker 2: breastfeed at the same because women would just breastfeed all
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: the babies, right.
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  Speaker 3: I think that is so cool.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing women. It is a miracle. No, I've always
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: loved women. So let's talk about all the things that
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: women can do.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: Well, congratulations to everyone who's given birth, because what a
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: ride it is.
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: It is.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: It's very intense, but like I said, you forget about
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: all of the things that are not great because you
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: have like this perfect little human who's you.
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just thinking. Amen to moms area.
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  Speaker 1: They're superheroes.
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  Speaker 2: Celebrate moms.
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  Speaker 1: They really are.
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  Speaker 4: So whether you have a surrogate, whether you adopted, whether
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: you gave birth.
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: Doesn't I always say that, stars. I love that you
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: said that, Mom, because I say that all the time.
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it doesn't matter how your kid got here.
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  Speaker 1: There's something that happens when you know your baby is
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: on the way that you are just you just become
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: like this like incredible force. You become like a mama bear. Yeah,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: you'll die for your kid and you'll take someone out
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: for them, so be prepared.
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: And that's amazing. And yes, no, you're so right, Lisa.
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  Speaker 2: That goes to all of the women. So many women
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: can't have babies, and so many women choose to not
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: be mothers, and whatever path you choose, I think it's incredible.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Women are incredible in general. But I think celebrating it
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: all is beautiful.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: What an amazing podcast today. Thank you Mama for joining us.
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: Love being with you girls.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: You guys are my tribe, a home full of girls,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: even the dogs.
• 53:57
  Speaker 3: What's up.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you Jessica for my co host again. We make
• 54:02
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• 54:04
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