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S1E29 - 'The Trial' · Dished at Birth

• 0:00
  Kara: Hi
• 0:00
  Dani: Tell me about the footage.
• 0:01
  Hello.
• 0:02
  Kara: Hello.
• 0:03
  I only have a few on my phone.
• 0:04
  There's a lot.
• 0:05
  I think there's seven DVDs, but-
• 0:07
  Dani: Well, sure, you're the first baby.
• 0:09
  Kara: I am the first baby.
• 0:10
  Dani: Firstborn privilege.
• 0:11
  Kara: Yes.
• 0:12
  It's really interesting 'cause my… The first DVD I looked at, it starts
• 0:17
  on my first birthday, and then it goes until I'm about to turn two.
• 0:21
  Dani: Mm-hmm.
• 0:22
  Kara: And my babbles are really interesting because, and I Googled this,
• 0:25
  I didn't know about this beforehand, but my babbles don't have any inflection in
• 0:29
  them or any turn-taking, and I'm also not responding to my parents at all.
• 0:34
  I was not yet diagnosed.
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  Dani: This was when you were two.
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  How old are you at this point?
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  Kara: I am a year and three months in this video.[
• 0:48
  KARA BABBLES IN VIDEO]
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  I think I want the camera.
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  Dani: Oh.
• 0:53
  Kara's Dad: Wanna stand up again?
• 0:54
  Kara: Is this for five minutes?
• 0:55
  Kara's Dad: No, stand up.
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  Stand up.
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  Kara: I'm not standing up.
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  Dani: No.
• 0:59
  I like that you paused to let him talk, though.
• 1:01
  You're like, you understand the flow of the conversation.
• 1:04
  You're just like, "I'm not interested."
• 1:05
  Kara: I have so much to say.
• 1:07
  Dani: Yeah.
• 1:08
  Kara: It's just me walking back and forth.
• 1:09
  Dani: To be fair, I don't think I would know based off of those babbles.
• 1:13
  To me, they seem normal.
• 1:14
  Kara: Right.
• 1:28
  Kara's Dad: Look at daddy.
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  Dani: No.
• 1:28
  Kara: No.
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  But then I do.
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  Dani: Yeah, but you do it on your own.
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  I do.
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  Like, you turn your head and you see him there out of the corner
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  of your eye, and then you keep-
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  Kara: But he's probably like, "Oh, she heard me."
• 1:31
  Dani: She, yeah, she's just, like, processing.
• 1:33
  Kara: Yeah.
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  But then there's another vi- I'm gonna show you one more,
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  'cause it's really interesting.
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  This is me after being diagnosed, and you can see my parents
• 1:40
  turn into speech therapy mode.
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  There's captions on this.
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  Dani: Okay.
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  How old are you?
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  You're three?
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  Kara: I'm about to turn two.
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  Dani: Oh, okay.
• 1:49
  I mean- Your hair.
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  Do you have, uh, hearing aids in?
• 1:52
  Kara: Yeah.
• 1:53
  Kara's Mom: Is that a shoe?
• 1:55
  Kara, what's this?
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  Kara: They were apparently told to talk to me constantly so I can like figure
• 2:02
  out what sounds I'm hearing, 'cause-
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  Dani: Do you remember how much hearing you had with the hearing aids?
• 2:06
  Kara: No, I don't remember.
• 2:08
  Dani: Huh.
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  Kara: It's fascinating though, 'cause you're… I'm not-
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  Kara's Mom: Kara…
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  Kara: I'm not getting it.
• 2:15
  I'm playing in my mom's closet.
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  Dani: Do you think this was because you couldn't hear them at all or do you
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  think at this point you had established like, "I don't actually have to listen
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  to them, so this doesn't matter"?
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  Kara: I don't think I heard.
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  But then I do look.
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  And I don't know what she showed me.
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  Dani: I love your mom.
• 2:30
  Kara's Mom: Shoe?
• 2:37
  Dani: You said, "Bye."
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  Kara: At this age-
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  Dani: The vest that you're wearing-
• 2:39
  Kara: Yeah
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  … Dani: is that connected to the hearing aids?
• 2:41
  Kara: Yeah, it's called a transistor, I think.
• 2:43
  Dani: Okay.
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  Kara: It was like an old-fashioned way of, like, being able to adjust the volume-
• 2:47
  Dani: Mm
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  … Kara: and whatnot, 'cause I couldn't verbalize if it was
• 2:50
  too loud or uncomfortable.
• 2:52
  Dani: Oh, so you could do it yourself?
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  Kara: Or my parents could or the teachers at school.
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  At this point, typical babies will have, like, 50 to 100 words in
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  their vocabulary, and as you can see, I'm not really saying much.
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  Dani: You might not have had that many words as a baby, but
• 3:06
  you have a lot of words now.
• 3:08
  Should we get right to it?
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  Kara: I do have a lot of words right now.
• 3:25
  Dani: Also, guys, ASMR moment, we both have Diet Cokes right now.
• 3:29
  Kara: From McDonald's.
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  Dani: So.
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  Sorry if you're hearing that in the background.
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  But not that sorry.
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  Kara: Season 1, Episode 29, The Trial, which aired October 15, 2012.
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  Dani: I am gonna admit, I kind of forgot that whole trial thing was going on.
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  There was just so much else happening.
• 3:48
  Kara: Yeah, like pedophilia.
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  Dani: Yeah, and just, like, we were at court for other reasons.
• 3:53
  Kara: Yes.
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  Dani: Angelo's immigration stuff.
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  I just kinda, like, forgot.
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  So when I was like, "The trial" ran a blank for me.
• 4:00
  Kara: Yeah.
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  It is a real painting.
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  It's by Sidney Nolan, and I think it was painted in '78.
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  It depicts a famous outlaw named Ned Kelly on trial, but it's
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  called that because we're on trial.
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: Yeah.
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  Nothing more.
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  Dani: It's not much to read into there.
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  Kara: No.
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  Dani: To be honest.
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  Well, Bay is kind of on trial.
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  Kara: She's the outlaw.
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  Dani: And Daphne is having a crime committed onto her.
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  Kara: That is true.
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  Dani: So lots of court stuff
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  Kara: We start off with Bay at the car wash.
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  She gets a call from Zarra, who still doesn't have the money.
• 4:33
  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: That sucks.
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  Dani: And Bay is like, "Don't worry about it. I'll figure something out."
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  Don't tell her to not worry about it.
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  Kara: She should worry about it.
• 4:43
  Dani: She should be worried about it.
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  Kara: Yeah, Zarra should be worried.
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  Dani: Because her saying that, I was like, girl, now she's not even
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  gonna try to get you anything back.
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  Kara: At the end, she gets $78.
• 4:52
  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: Is she volunteering at the library?
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  I'm confused.
• 4:55
  Dani: I'm confused as well.
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  Kara: She's not paying rent.
• 4:57
  Dani: The- Right.
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  Library jobs are good jobs.
• 5:00
  Kara: Yeah.
• 5:01
  Dani: Anyway, Bay is also not being very comforting to Travis
• 5:04
  in this moment when she sees him.
• 5:06
  Kara: I know.
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  Does he whip out some of his own money, or is that the money he's adding up?
• 5:11
  Dani: It's money he's adding up.
• 5:13
  Kara: Okay.
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  Dani: Thankfully.
• 5:14
  Yeah, he's not trying to-
• 5:16
  Kara: That's true, he's not getting involved.
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  He's just like, "Please fill up the safe again."
• 5:20
  Dani: Yeah.
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  Bay shows up, and she's like, "Here's $270."
• 5:25
  Kara: Yeah, she got some from Toby, and the rest is hers.
• 5:28
  Dani: The rest is a 20 that she found in her pants.
• 5:32
  Kara: Oh my God, yeah.
• 5:33
  Dani: So she got 250 from Toby, and then $20 of her own money, and
• 5:37
  Travis is like, "What the fuck?" And she's like, "No, it's gonna be fine.
• 5:40
  Don't worry."
• 5:41
  Kara: But John is making the bank deposit tomorrow.
• 5:43
  Dani: Yeah, so.
• 5:45
  Kara: We need this by tomorrow-
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  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: Or else I will be losing my job.
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  He will be firing me.
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  Dani: Yeah, Travis is really stressed, and Bay's just kinda like,
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  "Yeah, yeah, got it," and leaves.
• 5:54
  Kara: We're at the guest house.
• 5:55
  Melody and Regina are having girl talk about Chef Jeff.
• 5:58
  Dani: I would assume about their mutual breakups, 'cause Regina
• 6:01
  has just been dumped as well.
• 6:02
  Kara: Right, by Patrick.
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  Dani: Who we don't see in this episode, so maybe you were right last episode
• 6:07
  to say that was the end of him.
• 6:08
  Kara: Yeah.
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  Dani: Hopefully you're right.
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  Kara: Also, SimCom alert, because Regina is speaking out loud to a Deaf person, and
• 6:17
  there's just the two of them in the room.
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  I know I say this every episode, but it baffles me.
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  Dani: She can't this time.
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  Her wrist.
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  Kara: I know, she- her wrist.
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  Dani: Her wrist.
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  Kara: She has another hand.
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  It's fine.
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  Dani: I think that, I don't know if she's said this already or if they
• 6:30
  say it later, that, like, she's not allowed to use that one in case the
• 6:34
  carpal tunnel starts in that hand.
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  Something a little bit confusing is that she's still working.
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  Kara: As a hair stylist.
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  Dani: As a hair stylist.
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  I obviously, again, caveat that this is Constance Marie's
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  actual problem in real life.
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  Kara: Mm-hmm.
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  Dani: But if I were Regina, I would rather find a new line of work to give my hands a
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  rest that way, and keep the language that I use to communicate with my daughter in.
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  I don't know, just my opinion.
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  Kara: Hot take.
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  Dani: Anyway, they're chatting, and Melody's talking about Chef Jeff and
• 7:06
  the fact that they're broken up, and she's like, "Obviously, I didn't expect
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  it to turn into a relationship." Then she's like, "And it's so embarrassing,
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  I left my sunglasses there and he told me he would drop them off in the
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  mailbox, which is, like, humiliating."
• 7:20
  Timeline check.
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  Later on in this episode, Melody's gonna say that her and Jeff were
• 7:25
  sleeping together for almost a month.
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  Kara: Okay.
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  Dani: So it was not just a one-night stand.
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  It just gets ickier and ickier.
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  Like, not that it wasn't already icky that they slept together once, but
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  they were actively sleeping together.
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  Kara: When he-
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  Dani: Multiple times.
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  They'd both been to each other's places.
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  Kara: Right.
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  Dani: When the thing with Daphne started up.
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  Kara: Ugh.
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  Dani: Because he did not end things with Melody until after he
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  and Daphne kissed in the kitchen.
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  Kara: Yes.
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  Dani: Even though we saw him take, like, a step back at the fundraiser.
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  Kara: It seems like this wa- happened yesterday.
• 7:54
  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: It's-
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  Dani: The way that Melody's reacting makes me think that there was,
• 7:59
  like, true… It wasn't just sex.
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  Like, they were, like, hanging out at each other's places and stuff.
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  Kara: Yeah, and Regina says, "That sucks, but at least now you're not
• 8:07
  dating a guy that Daphne has a crush on."
• 8:09
  Dani: Yeah.
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  Kara: And this is news to Melody.
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  Dani: Yes.
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  And Melody's like, "Oh my God," and Regina's like, "Ah, I
• 8:14
  shouldn't have even said anything.
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  It doesn't matter." And Melody's freaked out.
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  Kara: She's like, "Well, now I feel 80."
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  Dani: So then cut to Chef Jeff and Daphne are out on their food truck date.
• 8:25
  Kara: Chef Jeff has ordered chapulines, which are fried grasshoppers.
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  Dani: And Daphne is giving him crap about it, and he's like…
• 8:33
  They're having, like, a flirty back and forth, where he's like,
• 8:35
  "Come on, try one." First time I've agreed with Chef Jeff-
• 8:38
  Kara: Me too.
• 8:38
  Dani: Outright, him saying shrimps are the bugs of the ocean.
• 8:42
  Kara: Oh, I was going to agree about, like, they're a great source
• 8:44
  of protein, and your mind is closed because you're not used to eating that.
• 8:48
  Dani: True, and I'm gonna keep my mind closed.
• 8:51
  Kara: Yeah.
• 8:51
  Dani: Cause my mind isn't even open to shrimp.
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  Shrimp are the roaches of the ocean.
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  And I wouldn't-
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  Kara: And the Jews agree.
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  Dani: And I wouldn't eat roaches either.
• 8:59
  I personally wouldn't eat either, just 'cause their spindly
• 9:01
  long legs really freak me out.
• 9:03
  I think I have, like, a phobia, 'cause it…
• 9:05
  That's my problem with spiders too.
• 9:07
  Kara: Yeah.
• 9:07
  Dani: Like, any bug with, like, really long, skinny legs,
• 9:09
  like, just makes my skin crawl.
• 9:11
  Kara: You must hate daddy long legs.
• 9:12
  Dani: I try to leave spiders alone.
• 9:14
  Kara: I know.
• 9:15
  Me too.
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  Dani: But I am so scared of them, so it's, like, a real sacrifice on my part.
• 9:19
  But I don't even try to take them outside, 'cause you know, if
• 9:21
  you take them outside, they die.
• 9:22
  Kara: Really?
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  Dani: Spiders can't regulate their body temperature.
• 9:26
  Kara: Oh.
• 9:26
  Dani: That fast, so if you… I, what I will do when I'm at my parents' place,
• 9:30
  'cause they have, like, a guest garage space, I will take them from the main
• 9:34
  house, put them in the guest garage space, where my father sleeps, 'cause
• 9:38
  he doesn't care about the spiders.
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  But I will no longer just, like, put a spider outside, because
• 9:44
  that's sentencing it to death.
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  Kara: Oh, the more you know.
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  Anyway, Daphne is disgusted by the grasshoppers at first, but then
• 9:52
  she tries it and she likes it.
• 9:54
  Dani: She's like, "I'm an open-minded woman." And Chef Jeff says, "Just one
• 9:59
  of the many things I love about you."
• 10:01
  Ugh.
• 10:02
  Kara: We're gonna have to add another content warning to this episode, for sure.
• 10:05
  Dani: Yeah, for sure.
• 10:06
  Along with a note saying please do not scrape this podcast for AI
• 10:10
  training because we are pretty sure our podcast maybe ended up on some
• 10:14
  nefarious sites offering up our audio for podcast training, unless
• 10:20
  we suddenly have a new fan base.
• 10:24
  Kara: In Iraq?
• 10:25
  Yeah.
• 10:25
  Dani: Yeah.
• 10:25
  Kara: Then that'd be great.
• 10:26
  Dani: And in that case, shout out to you guys, and welcome.
• 10:29
  We're happy you're here.
• 10:30
  But I don't know that this show aired there.
• 10:34
  Kara: Who's to say?
• 10:35
  Dani: Who's to say, really?
• 10:36
  So yeah, please don't use this for AI, please and thank you.
• 10:39
  Kara: Yeah.
• 10:40
  Dani: Okay, Angelo's back.
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  Kara: He's home.
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  He arrives at the guest house.
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  Regina tells him she and Patrick broke up.
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  Dani: And his eyes light up.
• 10:50
  Kara: Yes.
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  Also, he got fired.
• 10:52
  Dani: He quit, but he got, yeah.
• 10:54
  Kara: And-
• 10:55
  Dani: Shocker.
• 10:56
  Kara: Regina's makes it sound like this is very typical.
• 10:59
  Dani: I'm not surprised.
• 11:00
  Kara: Me neither.
• 11:01
  It's just some, like, stupid argument between the couple
• 11:04
  he was working for, and-
• 11:05
  Dani: Yeah, they wanted two different types of wood for the cabinets.
• 11:08
  Kara: Yeah.
• 11:09
  Dani: And Angelo listened to the woman, and then the husband got mad.
• 11:13
  Do we think that maybe he was actually mad 'cause Angelo and the
• 11:17
  woman had- I bet he was flirt- … a little flirtation going on?
• 11:20
  Kara: I bet he was flirting with her.
• 11:22
  Dani: I agree.
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  Yeah.
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  Especially 'cause he was like, "I can't remember the husband's name."
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  Remember in the last episode?
• 11:26
  Kara: Yes.
• 11:27
  Dani: Anyway, yeah.
• 11:28
  He's back, and he's like, "Will you come support me at the trial?" And
• 11:32
  Regina's like, "No." But then does.
• 11:34
  But then, like, maybe.
• 11:35
  Kara: Yeah.
• 11:35
  Dani: Yeah.
• 11:35
  But then, spoiler alert, guys, she comes and supports him.
• 11:39
  Now we're in the church basement hangout jam space.
• 11:44
  New set unlocked, kind of.
• 11:46
  Kara: Yeah, it has a stage and also a ping pong table.
• 11:48
  Dani: Yeah.
• 11:49
  Kara: I went to church growing up.
• 11:50
  It looks like a church basement.
• 11:51
  Dani: Okay.
• 11:52
  And Emmett's there, 'cause he and Emmett and Nikki are all gonna
• 11:56
  be in a band together, so they're practicing for the first time.
• 12:00
  And Emmett looks so cute when he signs to Toby, "Are all the
• 12:03
  songs gonna be about Jesus?"
• 12:05
  Kara: And Toby's like, "Just play." Nikki, at first, though, is like,
• 12:07
  "How can a deaf guy play drums?"
• 12:10
  Dani: I think important to include that.
• 12:11
  I was like, oh, brother, this again.
• 12:14
  But I think it's like-
• 12:15
  Kara: Yeah.
• 12:15
  Dani: It's nice to acknowledge any new person brought into that scenario
• 12:18
  is gonna be a little bit ignorant.
• 12:20
  Kara: Even Jesusy people.
• 12:21
  Dani: Yeah, even Jesusy people.
• 12:23
  Kara: Yeah.
• 12:23
  Dani: And she's very nice about it, and then she's immediately like, "Oh, I was
• 12:27
  wrong." And she seems to like Emmett, so.
• 12:29
  Kara: Yeah.
• 12:29
  And the three of them take an official band selfie, and she
• 12:32
  goes, "Awesome sauce. Thank you."
• 12:34
  Dani: You know why she keeps saying that, right?
• 12:36
  ' Kara: Cause that's gonna be the band name.
• 12:37
  Dani: Yeah.
• 12:38
  It's so bad.
• 12:39
  Kara: And also 'cause it's 2012.
• 12:40
  Dani: It's so painful.
• 12:41
  Also, there definitely was already a band named Awesome Sauce in 2012.
• 12:45
  Back on this date, Chef Jeff and Daphne are walking, and Daphne's, like, trying
• 12:52
  to convince him to be more fun at work.
• 12:55
  Kara: By playing music.
• 12:57
  Dani: Right.
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  I think this is, like, a bad-
• 12:59
  Kara: I didn't even-
• 12:59
  Dani: Road for her to go down.
• 13:01
  But then he's like, "Should we go back to my place for some gelato?" And she's like,
• 13:06
  "I don't know." And he's like, "What?
• 13:08
  Don't wanna have fun?" Ugh.
• 13:10
  And I was like, wow, good for Daphne that she's like… I was thinking
• 13:15
  her hesitation was that she was feeling kind of weird about it.
• 13:20
  Kara: Yeah.
• 13:21
  Dani: But I think it's just that her stomach hurts from the grasshoppers.
• 13:24
  Kara: Yes.
• 13:24
  Dani: Because then they go inside.
• 13:26
  Kara: But before they go inside, the camera pans to Daphne's car,
• 13:30
  which has a Carlton sticker on it.
• 13:31
  Dani: Right.
• 13:32
  Kara: Important for us to see.
• 13:33
  Dani: So they go inside.
• 13:35
  Kara: Yeah.
• 13:36
  Dani: And-
• 13:37
  Kara: It's gelato time.
• 13:38
  Dani: Fig and goat cheese is the gelato flavor.
• 13:41
  Kara: Of course it is.
• 13:42
  Dani: That he has prepared, with two spoons, and he brings it over,
• 13:45
  and she says, "Oof, I'm not over those crickets or grasshoppers yet.
• 13:49
  I can't." And he's like, "Totally fair." And then she's looking at a photo of
• 13:53
  him with his apprentice, or with his mentor when he was an apprentice.
• 13:58
  Kara: Yes.
• 13:59
  Dani: And she's like, "That's my dream, to apprentice in France."
• 14:02
  And he's like, "I would put in a good word for you." And she's like, "What?
• 14:05
  He'd hate me." And then, ugh, Jeff grabs her arms and, like, pulls her in
• 14:13
  and is like, "Not everyone's gonna be an idiot like I was." And then he goes
• 14:17
  and they start to kiss, and it's gross and it made me very uncomfortable.
• 14:21
  Kara: Mm-hmm.
• 14:21
  Dani: And then I was like, Daphne looks really uncomfortable.
• 14:24
  Maybe she's finally realizing this is weird.
• 14:27
  And then no, she pulls away and she's gonna be sick, not because
• 14:30
  she's kissing a middle-aged man and she's in high school, but because
• 14:34
  the grasshoppers hurt her stomach.
• 14:36
  So she runs to the bathroom to throw up, and Jeff is trying to
• 14:41
  talk to her through the wall, and then is like, "She can't hear me."
• 14:45
  And then the doorbell rings.
• 14:47
  Kara: Yes.
• 14:48
  Melody stops by to retrieve her non-accidentally forgotten sunglasses,
• 14:54
  and Chef Jeff is like, "Oh, shit. Actually, come on in, because
• 14:59
  you can't hear the vomiting." What if Daphne came out the door?
• 15:01
  Dani: I know.
• 15:02
  This is a crazy plan.
• 15:03
  And then Melody pokes her head in, sees that he's got ice cream with two
• 15:08
  spoons, and is like, "Oh, shit, he's on a date, I bet," runs to flee to leave.
• 15:14
  Kara: Runs out.
• 15:14
  She sees Daphne's car, and yet she doesn't run right back in-
• 15:18
  Dani: No.
• 15:19
  Kara: To punch him in the face.
• 15:20
  Dani: That's crazy.
• 15:21
  Kara: Or call Regina.
• 15:22
  Dani: My hot take is later on in the episode, Daphne comes by to pick
• 15:27
  up some of her schoolwork because she's missing some school days
• 15:30
  so that she can attend the trial.
• 15:32
  Kara: Yes.
• 15:32
  Dani: And Melody has a talk with her and is like, "How are you doing?"
• 15:36
  And Daphne's like, "I'm fine." And Melody's like, "Let's talk about
• 15:40
  how you were mad at me about Chef Jeff." And Daphne's like, "Whatever.
• 15:42
  I don't wanna talk about it.
• 15:43
  I wanna go." Melody's like, "Stay here with me.
• 15:47
  Let me tell you about when I dated my college professor."
• 15:50
  Kara: Yes.
• 15:51
  Dani: "He was 15 years older than me, and it was really fun at first, and
• 15:54
  then I, as we got further into things, my friends didn't get along with him.
• 16:00
  I couldn't get along with his friends.
• 16:02
  Our worlds couldn't mix, and it got more and more uncomfortable.
• 16:05
  Those things matter in a relationship." I think- For Melody's role in
• 16:10
  Daphne's life, this was the best thing she could have done for Daphne.
• 16:14
  I also think Melody should have immediately driven to Regina and said,
• 16:18
  "Oh my God, go get your daughter."
• 16:19
  Kara: Yeah.
• 16:20
  Dani: But I do not think in that moment it was… I think if Melody had been, like,
• 16:24
  more, I don't know, like, more imposing with her feelings- It wouldn't have worked
• 16:29
  … it would push Daphne further away.
• 16:31
  Kara: Right.
• 16:32
  Dani: But I feel like even though Daphne's like, "Whatever, I've, I gotta go," I feel
• 16:37
  like something's getting through to Daphne a little because Melody's like, "Listen."
• 16:42
  Daphne says, "It's not my fault that he chose me," in response to Melody
• 16:46
  being like, "I dated my college professor." Again, not the same thing.
• 16:49
  Melody was in college.
• 16:51
  Kara: Right.
• 16:51
  Dani: Still icky.
• 16:52
  That's kinda crazy.
• 16:53
  I feel like-
• 16:54
  Kara: Still weird and bad, but she's at least-
• 16:55
  Dani: Still weird and bad.
• 16:56
  Kara: Over 18.
• 16:57
  Dani: Yeah.
• 16:57
  Melody's like, "Daphne, don't be stupid. I am basically your mother."
• 17:02
  Kara: Yes.
• 17:02
  Dani: "Who do you think I care about in this scenario? It's not him."
• 17:07
  Kara: I like that she said that.
• 17:08
  Dani: Yeah.
• 17:08
  I think Melody's doing the best thing that she can do, is, like, planting a seed
• 17:14
  of, like, hey, I've done this, and I'm not gonna, like, turn you in to anyone.
• 17:18
  I think on the low she still should have turned her in.
• 17:21
  Kara: Me too.
• 17:21
  Dani: But if it's already happening, I think this is, like, a good
• 17:24
  way to try to build up some protection for Daphne, I would hope.
• 17:28
  Kara: Mm-hmm.
• 17:28
  Dani: I don't know.
• 17:29
  I'm not-
• 17:29
  Kara: But then it doesn't work.
• 17:30
  Dani: No, it doesn't work.
• 17:31
  I know.
• 17:31
  And then the next day, Bay and Daphne have a little chat in the morning, a
• 17:36
  little sisterly chat, where Daphne's like, "I almost slept with Jeff last
• 17:42
  night, but then I was vomiting."
• 17:43
  Bay is like, "Oh yeah, I get it. Everyone's probably
• 17:46
  nervous their first time."
• 17:47
  Kara: Nervous enough that you're vomiting?
• 17:49
  Dani: That you're vom- if you're vo- hey, if you're vomiting-
• 17:51
  Kara: PSA.
• 17:52
  Dani: Before your first time, not even ever, just first
• 17:55
  time having sex with someone-
• 17:56
  Kara: You're not ready.
• 17:57
  Dani: You probab- your body probably does not wanna have sex with that
• 18:00
  person, genuinely, unless you have, like, a condition that makes you
• 18:04
  vomit, or I guess food poisoning.
• 18:07
  But hey, if you're vomiting, let's not.
• 18:09
  Let's just skip the sex.
• 18:10
  It's fine.
• 18:11
  Kara: Yeah.
• 18:11
  Vomit is not sexy, guys.
• 18:13
  Dani: No, for anyone involved, it'll… And if you have food
• 18:15
  poisoning, also don't have sex.
• 18:17
  Kara: Yeah.
• 18:18
  But then Daphne goes, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm not a virgin."
• 18:21
  Dani: Yeah, which I thought we'd already kind of established between them then.
• 18:23
  Kara: I feel like we had this conversation already.
• 18:25
  Dani: Yeah, but they're about to have it again.
• 18:27
  I know.
• 18:27
  And then Bay is like, "Well, I'm a virgin." And Daphne's like, Daphne's
• 18:32
  like, "You and Emmett never?" Bay's like, "No," and Daphne goes, "Wow.
• 18:36
  Wow."
• 18:36
  Kara: Wow.
• 18:38
  Dani: Wow.
• 18:38
  Kara: Wow.
• 18:39
  And Bay's like, "That's enough."
• 18:40
  Dani: Bay is so offended.
• 18:41
  Kara: But Daphne goes, "Did I ruin everything with me and Chef Jeff?" and
• 18:44
  Bay goes, "No, I think you're good."
• 18:46
  Dani: But earlier on in the conversation was like, "I cannot
• 18:49
  believe you're gonna sleep with that old man. That's crazy." Again, I
• 18:53
  also think Bay is doing what she can.
• 18:55
  Like, I don't think Bay being like, "Hey, don't do that," is gonna do anything.
• 18:58
  Kara: No, it's not gonna help.
• 18:59
  Dani: So at least she can be a support system for- I just- … when Daphne
• 19:02
  inevitably crashes out from this trauma.
• 19:04
  Kara: I just need someone to go to Regina.
• 19:06
  Dani: Yeah.
• 19:07
  Kara: Anyone.
• 19:08
  Dani: Anyone.
• 19:09
  Kara: We're getting ready for the trial, because-
• 19:11
  Dani: Yeah.
• 19:11
  Kara: John and Kathryn are sitting in the living room with Craig
• 19:14
  Tebbe, and then Angelo's lawyer.
• 19:16
  Yeah.
• 19:16
  I think that's who that is.
• 19:17
  Dani: But Angelo is not there.
• 19:19
  Kara: Yes.
• 19:20
  It's suspicious that he's not there.
• 19:22
  Dani: He's, it is kind of suspicious.
• 19:24
  I chalked it up to he's just, like, flaky as hell, because they're like,
• 19:29
  "Well, Angelo will be here tomorrow when he's back from his trip." And
• 19:32
  Kathryn's like, "He's back from his trip.
• 19:34
  He came in this morning."
• 19:35
  Kara: And the lawyer's like, "Oh, yeah."
• 19:37
  Dani: The lawyer's like, "Right. Right."
• 19:38
  Kara: And he's popping Tums.
• 19:40
  Dani: Yeah.
• 19:40
  So-
• 19:41
  Kara: He's stressed.
• 19:42
  Dani: He's stressed.
• 19:43
  Kara: Bay is trying to get money for the safe by going up to Buckner students
• 19:49
  and lying that she's throwing a party.
• 19:51
  Dani: This is kind of a good idea, actually.
• 19:52
  Kara: Yeah.
• 19:53
  But no one's biting.
• 19:54
  Dani: To be like, "Pitch in for this massive party I'm doing."
• 19:58
  Kara: Yeah, it's a Halloween … She said Halloween party, so I'm assuming it's-
• 20:01
  Dani: What time of year are we in?
• 20:03
  I don't-
• 20:03
  Kara: Well, they just started school again.
• 20:05
  That was like- So it's gotta be October.
• 20:06
  Dani: That was, like, three episodes ago, which could mean
• 20:09
  any period of time in this show.
• 20:11
  That could be two weeks ago.
• 20:12
  That could be two months ago.
• 20:14
  Anyway.
• 20:14
  Time, hopefully.
• 20:14
  I guess Halloween's close enough that it makes sense.
• 20:17
  And Simone comes over and is like, "So you hate Halloween, and I know that,
• 20:21
  so clearly something's going on. What do you need the money for? I'll just
• 20:24
  give it to you." I am fine with this.
• 20:27
  Kara: I'm fine with taking your money.
• 20:28
  Dani: I'm fine with Simone paying reparations.
• 20:30
  I think that's okay.
• 20:32
  Kara: Yeah.
• 20:32
  Bay at first is like, "I would never take money from you." And then she gets
• 20:35
  a text from Travis saying like, "I need the money now." And Bay's like, "Okay,
• 20:40
  actually, I will take the money from you."
• 20:42
  Dani: Simone's like, "I literally have my checkbook on me."
• 20:45
  Okay.
• 20:45
  Kara: Who brings a checkbook to school?
• 20:47
  Rich people?
• 20:48
  Dani: I think Simone's got some other stuff going on-
• 20:51
  Kara: Yeah, you're right
• 20:52
  … Dani: at this point.
• 20:53
  Kara: Daphne goes to the car wash to find Travis, because
• 20:57
  he's been avoiding her at school.
• 21:00
  Dani: Yeah, 'cause she-
• 21:00
  Kara: And she's like, "Hey".
• 21:01
  Dani: Blew him off at the open house.
• 21:02
  Kara: Yeah.
• 21:03
  Fair enough.
• 21:03
  Dani: After feeding him.
• 21:05
  Kara: A taco.
• 21:06
  Dani: A taco out of her hand.
• 21:07
  Kara: And then go-
• 21:08
  Dani: Hand feeding him a taco.
• 21:10
  Kara: And then abandoning him at this open house to be with Chef Jeff.
• 21:15
  Dani: Yeah.
• 21:16
  So and he's like-
• 21:17
  Kara: She apologizes.
• 21:18
  Dani: Yeah, and he's like, "Whatever. I don't really care
• 21:20
  about that anymore. I have bigger problems." And then he tells her.
• 21:23
  Kara: Yeah, he's like, "I'm so scared I'll lose my job because
• 21:26
  Bay took money from the safe."
• 21:27
  Dani: I'm glad he told Daphne.
• 21:29
  I think that was the right thing to do.
• 21:30
  Kara: Me too.
• 21:31
  Toby shows up to Nikki's place of work.
• 21:34
  She works at a froyo shop.
• 21:36
  That sounds really good.
• 21:37
  Dani: And- I'd be pissed if someone did this.
• 21:39
  He do- he shows up to her place of work multiple times this episode-
• 21:42
  Kara: He does.
• 21:43
  Dani: To chat.
• 21:43
  She's busy.
• 21:44
  She's cleaning down those froyo tables.
• 21:47
  Kara: I know.
• 21:47
  It gets messy.
• 21:48
  Dani: Froyo's messy.
• 21:48
  Kara: It gets very messy.
• 21:50
  He says, "Hey, I have a CD of songs I wrote that we can maybe use for
• 21:53
  the band." And she goes, "Oof.
• 21:55
  Actually, we can't play together anymore because my boyfriend, Jed, is jealous."
• 22:00
  Dani: Oh.
• 22:01
  Kara: Yeah.
• 22:01
  Can we wrap this plot up?
• 22:03
  Dani: Yeah.
• 22:04
  Kara: Toby later tells Emmett the band is over, and Emmett goes,
• 22:08
  "'Cause Jed is envious? Isn't that like one of the seven deadly sins?"
• 22:11
  Dani: Very funny.
• 22:12
  Kara: That was funny.
• 22:13
  Emmett was funny this episode.
• 22:15
  Dani: Yeah.
• 22:15
  Emmett's back in our good graces.
• 22:17
  Kara: Yeah.
• 22:17
  Dani: I don't know that he deserves to be there, but he is.
• 22:20
  Kara: Yeah.
• 22:20
  But Emmett seemed to really like the jam session they had earlier, so he's
• 22:24
  like, "Wait, no. I'm so excited to play again. Like, we can't quit."
• 22:27
  Dani: He goes on the, he has this great monologue about like all
• 22:31
  the things that have happened to bands that they've been through.
• 22:34
  Like- Like bands' lead singers have died in plane crashes and-
• 22:38
  Kara: Def Leppard's drummer lost an arm, but he still played, and-
• 22:41
  Dani: Yeah.
• 22:42
  Kara: Someone drowned in their own vomit, and someone did this.
• 22:45
  Dani: Yeah.
• 22:45
  And Toby's like, "I think I understood part of that.
• 22:48
  I guess you're saying never give up?" And Emmett's like, "Yeah, never give up."
• 22:52
  And so then Toby goes back to Nikki's place of work and is like, "I actually
• 22:57
  don't think your boyfriend should get to decide who you're in a band with."
• 23:01
  Kara: Also, I know what it's like to be cheated on, and I don't
• 23:04
  wanna do that to anyone else.
• 23:05
  I just wanna jam.
• 23:06
  Dani: Yeah.
• 23:07
  So and Nikki's like, "Okay. When's rehearsal?" This, their
• 23:13
  dynamic pisses me off so much.
• 23:15
  I don't know if you're watching Off Campus, and if you aren't,
• 23:18
  you don't need to start.
• 23:19
  It's so bad.
• 23:21
  Sorry, guys.
• 23:21
  Kara: My mom's watching it.
• 23:22
  Dani: That's tough.
• 23:23
  It's so bad, and the thing that pisses me off the most is that the
• 23:28
  main characters', like, main way of communicating that they have chemistry is,
• 23:32
  like, staring at each other and laughing.
• 23:34
  Oh.
• 23:35
  But they're laughing at nothing.
• 23:37
  So it feels like I'm watching, like, a, a increasingly insane SNL skit where they're
• 23:42
  just, like, uh, throwing their heads back and laughing at absolutely nothing, and
• 23:46
  that feels similar to what's going on-
• 23:49
  Kara: Wow, okay.
• 23:50
  Dani: Here with Toby and Nikki.
• 23:51
  That, like, the two actors don't really have a chemistry,
• 23:54
  so instead they're just…
• 23:55
  She goes, like, "What time's rehearsal?" And then it cuts to Toby, and he's
• 23:59
  just, like, smiling and laughing at her.
• 24:01
  Kara: And then ge goes, "Awesome sauce." Ugh.
• 24:04
  Dani: Gross.
• 24:05
  Kara: That's the end of that plot.
• 24:06
  Dani: That's good.
• 24:06
  That's the end of that plot.
• 24:07
  I, I don't really care about this band.
• 24:09
  I'm sorry, Toby.
• 24:10
  I want them to give you something of substance that I'm interested in.
• 24:14
  I guess I'm excited for Emmett's redemption arc. I think they're using
• 24:18
  Toby to redeem Emmett in the fans' eyes.
• 24:21
  Kara: That makes sense to me.
• 24:22
  I'll allow it.
• 24:23
  Dani: The plotline's all about Jesus, and he was, like, really
• 24:25
  into forgiveness, famously.
• 24:27
  Kara: True.
• 24:27
  Dani: So I guess that's what they're trying to do.
• 24:30
  Kara: Yeah.
• 24:30
  Bay has deposited that check immediately that Simone has written, because
• 24:35
  she is running back to the car wash, ready to put this money back in the
• 24:38
  safe, and they do, like, just in the nick of time before John comes in.
• 24:42
  Dani: Yeah.
• 24:43
  He, she has to, like, run out-
• 24:45
  Kara: And distract him.
• 24:45
  Dani: While Travis is doing it, and be like, "Hey, what should
• 24:48
  I wear to court?" And then they have a really sweet exchange.
• 24:51
  It, like, hurts that John is being so nice.
• 24:53
  He's like, "And sweetie, I really appreciate you standing by us
• 24:57
  during all of this." I feel bad.
• 24:59
  Kara: And so does Bay.
• 25:00
  Dani: Yeah, Bay feels bad as well.
• 25:02
  Later on, John is like, "Something's wrong with the money," and, and
• 25:06
  immediately does assume it's Travis.
• 25:08
  I do like that he asks Daphne, "Does Travis have anything going on at home that
• 25:13
  would be making him act up or whatever?" And Daphne's like, "No, he's great.
• 25:18
  He's fine," lying, because she thinks that's, like, better.
• 25:21
  But I do like the implication that John is more concerned about Travis
• 25:25
  than about the money situation.
• 25:28
  But what happens with the money that tips him off?
• 25:31
  Kara: He said the money was in hundreds before, but now it's mainly in 20s.
• 25:36
  Dani: Oh, okay.
• 25:37
  That's what it is.
• 25:38
  Kara: And he's worrying that Travis has borrowed money from the safe.
• 25:42
  Dani: Right.
• 25:42
  Kara: That's where him, his mind immediately goes, 'cause Travis
• 25:45
  knows the combination to the safe.
• 25:47
  Right.
• 25:47
  Yeah.
• 25:48
  Dani: Okay.
• 25:48
  That makes sense.
• 25:49
  Kara: Yeah.
• 25:50
  It's trial time.
• 25:51
  Dani: It's trial time.
• 25:52
  Kara: Colleen Vandernoot, the lactation nurse who believes in the Antichrist.
• 25:57
  Dani: Yeah.
• 25:58
  Kara: Is testifying, and at the same time, Bay and Daphne are sitting and arguing.
• 26:05
  Dani: This scene was so good.
• 26:07
  Kara: Daphne signs to Bay, like, "John knows, by the way."
• 26:10
  Dani: Well, first she whispers it, and then they get shushed-
• 26:14
  Kara: And then they-
• 26:14
  Dani: by the court people, and it's like, yeah, duh.
• 26:17
  Kara: Sign.
• 26:17
  Dani: Sign.
• 26:18
  So thankfully they do.
• 26:20
  Kara: Daphne says, "John knows something's up with the safe, and he
• 26:23
  thinks Travis took it, and if he gets fired, it's gonna be all your fault."
• 26:27
  And Bay goes, "Well, look who's talking." And then Daphne goes,
• 26:30
  "You tell John or I will."
• 26:31
  Dani: And then Bay says out loud something about, like, "At least
• 26:34
  I'm not sleeping with my 85-year-old boyfriend." Out loud in the court.
• 26:39
  I mean, she says it quiet, but still.
• 26:41
  Anyway, meanwhile in the background, Colleen Vandernoot
• 26:44
  starts out giving a good testimony.
• 26:47
  Kara: Yes.
• 26:48
  Dani: And then-
• 26:48
  Kara: They go to recess.
• 26:49
  Dani: They go to recess.
• 26:51
  Kara: And during recess, Bay is like, "Shit, I feel guilty." She
• 26:55
  goes up to Kathryn to tell her.
• 26:57
  Dani: She doesn't feel guilty.
• 26:58
  She's like, "Daphne's gonna tell them if I don't tell them."
• 27:01
  Kara: Right.
• 27:01
  Dani: She's being forced to confess.
• 27:03
  Kara: Kathryn immediately goes, "I wanna know what you see in Zarra, why you felt
• 27:06
  like you had to get her out of jail."
• 27:09
  And Bay says, "Well, if I wasn't switched, she's who I would've been.
• 27:13
  Like, she's part Latina. She's an artist."
• 27:15
  Dani: This is so bad.
• 27:16
  Kara: "She's from East Riverside." And Kathryn says, "If that's true, I
• 27:19
  don't like who you would've been, and I don't like who you're becoming."
• 27:23
  Dani: That's very harsh and a bit fucked up of Kathryn, I think.
• 27:27
  Kara: Yeah.
• 27:27
  Dani: But Bay is so, like, weirdly delusional about who she would have been.
• 27:34
  Like, you wouldn't have been Zarra.
• 27:36
  Kara: No.
• 27:36
  It's odd.
• 27:37
  I don't, I don't know.
• 27:38
  Dani: Anyway.
• 27:39
  Kara: Cross-examination time.
• 27:41
  The recess is over.
• 27:42
  They go back to cross-examining Colleen, and the attorney asks her
• 27:47
  about the barcodes on the hospital bracelets to destroy her credibility.
• 27:51
  That's the main purpose.
• 27:52
  Dani: Yeah.
• 27:53
  Kara: And she confesses that she believes that the barcodes are being
• 27:56
  used as a mark of the Antichrist.
• 27:58
  Dani: They bring up this blog that she writes for that talks about the mark of
• 28:02
  the beast, and then they show her one of the barcode bracelets, and she's,
• 28:06
  like, visibly distressed to see it.
• 28:08
  I was so saddened thinking about by today's standards of what
• 28:13
  we hear spouted from literal government officials these days.
• 28:17
  She doesn't even sound insane to me.
• 28:20
  Like, this isn't even the craziest conspiracy theory I've ever heard.
• 28:23
  Kara: I know.
• 28:24
  Dani: There are literal people in our government being like, "Yeah,
• 28:27
  the Antichrist is very real."
• 28:28
  Kara: Mm-hmm.
• 28:29
  Dani: So spooky stuff.
• 28:31
  But in her outburst, she says, "Those poor Tiffanys were switched."
• 28:36
  Kara: And she points to Bay and Daphne, and everyone is like, "What?"
• 28:39
  Dani: And everyone's like, "This girl's crazy."
• 28:42
  Kara: Yeah.
• 28:43
  So credibility destroyed.
• 28:45
  Dani: Mm-hmm.
• 28:45
  Kara: That's unfortunate.
• 28:46
  Not good for Craig Tebbe and the other lawyer.
• 28:49
  Dani: We're back at the Kennish house, and Kathryn and Bay are
• 28:53
  both in the kitchen late at night.
• 28:55
  Kara: She's giving Bay the cold shoulder.
• 28:56
  Dani: Yeah.
• 28:57
  I-
• 28:58
  Kara: I hate when parents do this.
• 28:59
  Dani: I hate when parents do this.
• 29:01
  She's like, obviously she should be mad at Bay, but Bay is, like, trying
• 29:04
  to be like, "Do you wanna split a pudding?" And she's, like, passive
• 29:08
  aggressively being mad at her instead of just being like, "No, I'm mad at you."
• 29:12
  And then finally she's like- "I'm mad at you" and here's what's
• 29:15
  gonna happen," which is the mature adult way to handle it.
• 29:18
  Do not give your child the semi-silent treatment.
• 29:21
  You're not a child yourself.
• 29:22
  Kara: I know.
• 29:23
  She goes, "Here's what's gonna happen. I'm gonna tell John not to fire
• 29:26
  Travis, and you will be working off the money that you took from the safe."
• 29:30
  Dani: Fair.
• 29:31
  I think that's good.
• 29:32
  Kara: Yeah.
• 29:33
  Great plan.
• 29:34
  Now we go to Maize, the restaurant.
• 29:37
  Dani: Yeah.
• 29:37
  Kara: Daphne.
• 29:38
  Dani: Jeff is being, like, flirty with Daphne about cutting up some kind of
• 29:43
  bug, I don't know, in the kitchen.
• 29:46
  Is he being open about dating Daphne in the kitchen?
• 29:49
  It seems like yes.
• 29:51
  Kara: It's so odd.
• 29:52
  Dani: By the way he's acting around her.
• 29:53
  Kara: Everyone else in the kitchen is deaf.
• 29:55
  But Daphne's like, "Can we chat?" They go in the freezer to talk,
• 29:59
  and she's like, "Melody knows.
• 30:01
  Melody knows about us." And Chef Jeff is like, "Hmm.
• 30:04
  That makes sense, 'cause she did stop at my place to get sunglasses
• 30:08
  while you were throwing up." And Daphne goes, "Well, shit.
• 30:11
  Melody's gonna tell my mom."
• 30:12
  Dani: The temperature in that freezer drops even further, 'cause
• 30:17
  she's, like, freaked about Melody, and he's freaked about Melody.
• 30:20
  And then Daphne goes, "I'm just scared 'cause she's gonna tell my
• 30:22
  mom." And the second he hears that, he's like right, this is a child.
• 30:27
  And then she sees that in his face and is like, "No, no, no.
• 30:30
  It's fine.
• 30:31
  I can handle my mom." And he's like, "What we're doing is stupid,
• 30:34
  and we both know that, and it's easy for me to forget your age when
• 30:39
  it's just the two of us together."
• 30:40
  Kara: I'm throwing up right now.
• 30:42
  Dani: Ugh.
• 30:43
  I hate that they're trying to be like, no, no, no, for him
• 30:45
  the age isn't part of it, guys.
• 30:47
  Like, for him, he's dating her despite the fact that she's 16, actually.
• 30:51
  So it's fine.
• 30:52
  So Daphne's, like, frantic and desperate, and he's, like, very, "No, we need
• 30:57
  to stop, because now I'm thinking about how I could get in trouble."
• 31:00
  Kara: And Daphne's eyes well up.
• 31:02
  Dani: Yeah, she's very upset.
• 31:03
  Kara: And they're touching hands, and then he drops his hands.
• 31:07
  Dani: Yeah.
• 31:07
  Kara: And walks away.
• 31:09
  Dani: And then we're at the Kennish house, and John and Kathryn are having a nice
• 31:12
  little moment where Kathryn basically says, "Even if we lose this lawsuit or
• 31:18
  we get, like, a shitty settlement offer, I'm glad that we stuck to our guns."
• 31:21
  Kara: Mm-hmm.
• 31:22
  Dani: And they're comforting each other.
• 31:24
  And then-
• 31:25
  Kara: Ding-dong!
• 31:25
  Dani: Ding-dong.
• 31:26
  Craig Tebbe's at the door, and he walks in and he says, "Remember how that crazy
• 31:31
  lady was talking about the Tiffany's? Well, turns out three months before Bay
• 31:35
  and Daphne were switched, two other babies named Tiffany were born on the same day
• 31:39
  at that hospital, and they were switched."
• 31:42
  Kara: I cannot believe no one found out.
• 31:45
  Dani: Right?
• 31:46
  I'm confused that there was no lawsuit back then.
• 31:48
  I- if this happened to me, I would be shouting it from the rooftops.
• 31:51
  Kara: Do not give birth in this hospital.
• 31:53
  Dani: I would be standing out in front of the entrance of the hospital, like-
• 31:56
  Kara: Right.
• 31:56
  Dani: Don't go here.
• 31:58
  Kara: Yeah.
• 31:58
  But he's like, "Great news. The mother of one of the Tiffany
• 32:02
  babies will testify tomorrow."
• 32:04
  Dani: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Kara: "So you're in luck." And then at the courthouse the next day, Craig
• 32:07
  Tebbe comes over with one of the moms.
• 32:09
  Dani: Yes.
• 32:10
  And Kathryn pulls her aside to talk beforehand, and they have
• 32:15
  an insanely insensitive exchange.
• 32:17
  I was- This, this mother does…
• 32:19
  First of all, is like, "I didn't even ever hear about this." You don't
• 32:22
  think if your babies were switched and then there was a big switched at
• 32:25
  birth story in that same town years later, you wouldn't be like, "Huh.
• 32:29
  Wonder what happened there."
• 32:30
  Kara: Or you wouldn't contact them and be like, "That also happened to me."
• 32:33
  Dani: Right.
• 32:34
  You wouldn't be tuned in at all?
• 32:35
  Kathryn asks how she knew, and she says, "Something just felt off." It's crazy.
• 32:40
  Can you believe I had this other baby and I didn't even, like, fully know?
• 32:44
  Isn't that wild?
• 32:45
  We were holding her and we didn't even know she wasn't ours.
• 32:47
  Anyway, they were only switched for nine days, and then we never saw that other
• 32:51
  child again, 'cause she wasn't ours."
• 32:53
  Kara: Yeah.
• 32:54
  And she's like, "For nine days.
• 32:56
  Can you believe it?
• 32:56
  Nine whole days I wasn't with my baby.
• 32:59
  For nine days."
• 33:00
  Dani: And Kathryn is gobsmacked and crestfallen and-
• 33:04
  Kara: I know.
• 33:04
  Dani: Very hurt.
• 33:05
  Kara: Does she not realize what trial she's at?
• 33:08
  Dani: No, I don't- yeah, it just seems like this lady just walked in and was
• 33:11
  like, "Whatever, I'll talk about it." Doesn't know anything about the situation.
• 33:15
  Kara: Yeah.
• 33:16
  We don't see her testify, but we do see Angelo testifying
• 33:19
  about the whole situation.
• 33:20
  Dani: Yes.
• 33:21
  Kara: And Jack Jason is interpreting for Daphne at this trial.
• 33:25
  Dani: Who is that?
• 33:26
  Kara: He's Melody's interpreter.
• 33:28
  Dani: Yes.
• 33:29
  Kara: In real life, and he was also the ASL coach for Switched
• 33:32
  at Birth that I know of.
• 33:34
  Dani: At least from Season 2 on, Lizzy Weiss has said he
• 33:36
  was the sign language master.
• 33:38
  Kara: He plays the interpreter for Daphne in the trial.
• 33:41
  Jack Jason.
• 33:42
  Dani: I did not clock that.
• 33:43
  Kara: Yeah.
• 33:43
  Dani: Good catch.
• 33:44
  Right as Angelo's speaking, Regina walks in and comes and sits with Daphne.
• 33:48
  Something so frustrating about this is I guess maybe Daphne didn't need
• 33:52
  her there, but, like, Regina didn't wanna go to support her daughter?
• 33:57
  The girls are both there in the box every day.
• 33:59
  Kara: They were both switched!
• 34:00
  Her daughter was switched.
• 34:02
  Dani: She, she wouldn't wanna be there as moral support for them, but she slides
• 34:05
  in as moral support f- she slides in, sits next to Daphne to support Angelo.
• 34:10
  Kara: I'm confused.
• 34:11
  I don't know.
• 34:12
  Dani: Her priorities are so fucked up.
• 34:14
  Kara: Yeah, Angelo just basically shares the whole story from start to finish.
• 34:18
  Dani: He gives a very compelling testimony.
• 34:20
  Kara: The jury is in love with him.
• 34:22
  Dani: Angelo is a charmer, and he frames it so well.
• 34:25
  He's like, "I was a wounded man.
• 34:27
  I thought the love of my life had betrayed me.
• 34:30
  It ruined my whole life.
• 34:31
  Now I'm back trying to make amends, but I'll never get back those 17 years."
• 34:36
  Kara: Yeah.
• 34:36
  Dani: And he's right, and he says, "I'm a stranger to Bay and Daphne now, and
• 34:40
  I'm a stranger to Regina functionally." I do wonder, I feel like he should
• 34:44
  be a little bit more careful, or, like, why… I- if I were the other
• 34:48
  lawyer, I would bring up the fact that he and Regina just got married.
• 34:51
  Kara: Yeah.
• 34:51
  Again- I'm confused.
• 34:52
  Can I call Immigration?
• 34:54
  Dani: Yeah.
• 34:55
  But anyway, yeah, it seems like it's going really well.
• 34:58
  Kara: It's going well for him, and John and Kathryn look at
• 35:00
  each other like, "Hmm, okay."
• 35:02
  Dani: Hmm.
• 35:02
  Kara: "This took a turn."
• 35:02
  Dani: And then after Angelo's done, the court is like, "Okay, we're gonna
• 35:08
  adjourn for the day, but we'd like to add one more witness to our list.
• 35:11
  The opposition-
• 35:13
  Kara: Mm-hmm.
• 35:13
  Dani: The hospital would like to call Kathryn to testify."
• 35:17
  Kara: And Kathryn's like, "Moi?"
• 35:19
  Dani: Yeah.
• 35:20
  I- my theory about this is they're gonna try to rip her apart and be
• 35:23
  like, "How, how did you not know? Isn't that crazy? 'Cause Regina knew."
• 35:26
  Kara: The point is, guys, you switched them at birth in the first place.
• 35:29
  Dani: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Babies all kind of fucking look the same.
• 35:32
  Kara: And it's-
• 35:33
  Dani: Unless you were Kara, and then you're, you look exactly like yourself.
• 35:36
  It's crazy.
• 35:37
  Kara: I know.
• 35:37
  I do.
• 35:39
  Dani: It's so cute.
• 35:40
  Kara: But Kathryn's gonna testify on Monday, 'cause it's Friday
• 35:43
  afternoon and they're done.
• 35:45
  So we'll see what happens with that.
• 35:47
  Dani: Yeah, that'll be next episode.
• 35:48
  Kara: Which is the finale.
• 35:49
  Dani: Which is the finale, and it's important for us to note, guys,
• 35:53
  that after we finish this season, we're going on break for the summer.
• 35:57
  Kara: We are.
• 35:58
  Dani: So we will see you back in the fall, but after the next
• 36:01
  episode we're going on summer break.
• 36:04
  Kara: But we'll be active on email and social media and whatever.
• 36:06
  Dani: Yeah.
• 36:06
  We'll still be around promoting the whole first season of Dished at Birth.
• 36:11
  Daphne goes straight from court, it seems, in her court clothes-
• 36:16
  Kara: Yes.
• 36:16
  Dani: To seduce Chef Jeff.
• 36:18
  She shows up at his house.
• 36:20
  Kara: He opens the door, and she goes, "I know you wanna be smart, but I don't
• 36:24
  want us to miss out on something good just because the two of us were scared."
• 36:28
  And then this works.
• 36:30
  He goes, "Come on in."
• 36:31
  Dani: Come on in, and they kiss.
• 36:33
  Daphne is wearing, I think, one of the first ever colors I've seen her
• 36:37
  in that she looks really good in.
• 36:38
  She's wearing, like, an orangy yellow cardigan, which is not sexy, but
• 36:44
  just the color makes her hair really pop so she looks really pretty.
• 36:47
  And then, like, a random floral dress, but it's, like, kind of short.
• 36:50
  Honestly, I feel like she's dressed less conservative for court than she is for
• 36:55
  just, like, a random Tuesday at school.
• 36:57
  So that's confusing.
• 36:58
  Like, it's an above-the-knee dress, but she looks nice enough in it.
• 37:03
  They have been exclusively putting Chef Jeff in dark gray
• 37:07
  or maroon slight V-neck T-shirts.
• 37:10
  I think they genuinely just have two different shirts for him, and that's it.
• 37:13
  Kara: Probably.
• 37:14
  Dani: And then his, like, chef outfit, his little chef costume.
• 37:18
  Kara: Do you think they had sex?
• 37:19
  Dani: Yes.
• 37:20
  I think that that's… I mean, so they kiss, and then she shuts the door.
• 37:24
  Kara: Yeah, the front door closes, and it's implied that.
• 37:26
  Dani: Something's going down.
• 37:27
  Kara: Something hap-
• 37:28
  Dani: I don't really wanna think about it too much, if I'm being honest.
• 37:31
  And hopefully we don't have to dwell on it in the next episode,
• 37:33
  but I have a feeling we will.
• 37:36
  Kara: At Buckner, Bay returns the money to Simone, 'cause I think what
• 37:40
  happens is Kathryn is going to pay and then Bay's just gonna work it off.
• 37:45
  So she returns the money to Simone, and they have, like, this weird exchange
• 37:48
  where Simone is trying to figure out why she needed the money in the
• 37:52
  first place, and she's like, "Come on, just talk to me. Just tell me."
• 37:55
  Dani: "Yeah, I'm not gonna judge you." It's like maybe she just
• 37:57
  doesn't wanna fucking talk to you-
• 37:59
  Kara: But then-
• 38:00
  Dani: 'cause you suck.
• 38:00
  Kara: But then Bay does say, like, "No, I made a mistake, and now my
• 38:04
  parents are really mad at me, and I have to beg for forgiveness, so I guess
• 38:07
  now I understand what that's like."
• 38:09
  Dani: Their situations are not similar enough-
• 38:11
  Kara: No.
• 38:11
  Dani: For her to be drawing comparisons, but whatever.
• 38:15
  Bay goes home, and her parents are waiting to ambush her in the kitchen.
• 38:20
  John tries to be like, "Anything you wanna tell me?" And Bay's like, "Well,
• 38:24
  I'm guessing Mom already told you."
• 38:25
  Kara: This scared the shit out of me.
• 38:26
  Dani: This… I know.
• 38:27
  I was sweating for her.
• 38:29
  Kara: I know.
• 38:29
  Dani: This would've been a great chance, Bay, for you to explain what
• 38:33
  happened to your dad in your own words from your own perspective,
• 38:37
  instead of just being like, "Well, Mom already told you that I messed up."
• 38:39
  Like, he is trying to give you a chance to be, like, an adult about it.
• 38:43
  Kara: And instead she is not.
• 38:45
  Dani: No.
• 38:46
  And they yell at her, and she tries to be like, "Well, you were nicer to Toby when
• 38:52
  he was in thousands of dollars of gambling debt, and that's probably 'cause he's your
• 38:55
  flesh and blood son, but with me…" And they're like, "No, no, don't pull that."
• 38:59
  And I think they're right.
• 39:01
  It is different for Toby to be like, "I have a gambling addiction,
• 39:04
  and I'm gonna be…" Like, he was never stealing money from them.
• 39:07
  He was-
• 39:07
  Kara: He stole the test.
• 39:08
  Dani: He stole the test, and that was not good, but that wasn't from his parents.
• 39:12
  Kara: Yeah.
• 39:12
  Dani: So it feels a little bit different.
• 39:14
  And he was in the debt, but, and he, but he would ask his parents
• 39:19
  for the money to bail him out.
• 39:20
  And again, that was a de- like, a gambling addiction that he was suffering from.
• 39:25
  Kara: Yes.
• 39:25
  Dani: Not the same as, like… It'd be more like if he stole that test
• 39:29
  to cover Wilke's gambling addiction.
• 39:31
  Kara: Right.
• 39:31
  Dani: And then his parents would be like, "Why would you be helping this person who
• 39:34
  is not a good friend influence on you?"
• 39:36
  Kara: That makes sense.
• 39:37
  Dani: Like, the betrayal is twofold.
• 39:38
  It's that she stole from them, and also that she's hanging out with this person
• 39:42
  that they don't like, that they've advised her against hanging out with.
• 39:46
  Kara: Right.
• 39:46
  Dani: Who's the person who got her into this mess to begin with.
• 39:49
  So Bay is completely in the wrong, and she's kinda being a brat about it.
• 39:52
  She's really being like- Well, I'm going through trauma, and they're like,
• 39:56
  "We've all been going through trauma," and like, you were like this before.
• 39:59
  Kara: Yeah.
• 39:59
  It's enough.
• 40:00
  Enough is enough.
• 40:01
  Dani: And then she kind of storms out?
• 40:03
  Kara: Yeah.
• 40:03
  She's just like, "Screw you, Mom and Dad," and then she storms
• 40:06
  out, and where does she go?
• 40:08
  Dani: She… I don't know how they weren't like, "We're taking your car
• 40:11
  keys," but they don't, and so she-
• 40:13
  Kara: Great point.
• 40:14
  Dani: Yeah.
• 40:14
  So she drives over to Zarra's abandoned trailer lot and says,
• 40:21
  "Can I crash with you for a while?" Bay, I… It's very reasonable
• 40:26
  that her parents are freaked out.
• 40:28
  Also, let's not forget, an episode and a half ago, you revealed to them that
• 40:32
  you've been doing illegal street art.
• 40:33
  Kara: Yes.
• 40:34
  Dani: For years.
• 40:35
  So, like, maybe just take the L. Maybe just say, "You know what? I fucked
• 40:39
  up. Let me work at the car wash a couple months, keep a low profile."
• 40:43
  Kara: I know.
• 40:44
  That's what Daphne did.
• 40:45
  Dani: Yeah.
• 40:45
  Kara: When she lied about the hearing aids.
• 40:47
  Dani: So true.
• 40:48
  Kara: I was like, "All right."
• 40:49
  Dani: The episode ends with Bay showing up.
• 40:51
  Kara: And Zarra says, "Yeah, come in," and the camera pans out on
• 40:54
  this abandoned trailer park lot.
• 40:57
  Dani: I think so much shit is gonna hit the fan in the finale.
• 41:00
  Kara: I'm excited, though.
• 41:01
  Dani: Me too.
• 41:03
  Kara: Wow.
• 41:03
  Can you believe we've done.
• 41:05
  Dani: 30 episodes.
• 41:06
  It'll be 30 next week.
• 41:07
  Kara: It will be 30 episodes of just one season, guys.
• 41:11
  Dani: Just one.
• 41:11
  TV used to be different.
• 41:13
  Kara: I think I like having 10 episodes a season.
• 41:16
  Dani: No, that's insane.
• 41:18
  Kara: It depends on the show.
• 41:19
  Dani: All right.
• 41:20
  See you guys next week.
• 41:22
  Kara: See you next week.
• 41:22
  Bye.
• 41:23
  Dani: Bye.