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INTERVIEW: Cenk Uygur Talks ‘Rebellion PAC’ Populist Takeover Of The Dems., Trump Tariffs, 2028 Primary + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, it's the world mos Dangerous morning show to Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: Charlamagne the God, DJ Envy and Jess Hilarius had to
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  Speaker 2: step out, but Lauren lerosay his heir and I got
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  Speaker 2: my guy, the CEO and found of the Young Turks Network,
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  Speaker 2: sink it was weger right, Jank.
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  Speaker 3: Uger, Jank Youuger?
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  Speaker 1: I know, I know it's a giant paint of ass.
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  Speaker 1: This ass like a jay what and youger? How are
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  Speaker 1: you even gonna say? That's not even the Turkish way
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  Speaker 1: of saying. But we're just trying to get along, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's my guid though. Uh you know, I can't pronounce nothing.
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  Speaker 1: But how are you, sir? I'm good, I'm good brother.
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  Speaker 1: How you doing?
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  Speaker 3: I am blessed, black and highly favored. Man.
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  Speaker 2: You got this initiative that you have that you're launching,
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  Speaker 2: that you're trying to recruit democrats who lean into left
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  Speaker 2: wing populism.
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  Speaker 1: You got that right?
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  Speaker 3: What does that look like?
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  Speaker 1: So that looks like some of what Trump promised. Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna delivered for the average guy and I hate
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  Speaker 1: the establishment, et cetera. But of course he was full
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  Speaker 1: of crap, and he didn't mean it. And so we
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  Speaker 1: said on the Young Church his brother, all he's going
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  Speaker 1: to do is do tax us for the rich, right,
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  Speaker 1: So that's what he did, and that's what he wants
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  Speaker 1: find naturally, dollars and tax cuts for corporations, et cetera.
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  Speaker 1: So what we're saying is, how about we actually delivered
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  Speaker 1: for the average guy. Higher wages, okay, lower drug prices,
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  Speaker 1: paid family leave so you can get a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of time off when you have a kid, money out
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  Speaker 1: of politics and the wars, and lower housing prices. So
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  Speaker 1: but in order to do that, you've got to take
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  Speaker 1: on big drug companies. You have to take on private
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  Speaker 1: equity that's buying our residential homes and driving up the prices.
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  Speaker 1: And so the reason that the Democrats haven't done in
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  Speaker 1: the past is because they're too wedded to the donor class.
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  Speaker 1: And so we're saying, let's bring the Democratic Party back
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  Speaker 1: to what it was. So what it was was serving
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  Speaker 1: the average guy, solid security, Medicare, Medicaid, all these, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, super popular programs. So let's go back to
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  Speaker 1: passing bills, delivering for people, and let's get the Democratic
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  Speaker 1: Party back in kick Trump's ass.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I was gonna say, what ald you talk
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  Speaker 4: about his economic populism?
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  Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah?
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  Speaker 4: But is that because people always say this stuff and
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  Speaker 4: then even when they get in a position, it's there's
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  Speaker 4: so much you got to fight through so many different
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  Speaker 4: tiers of like the House, and you know the people
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  Speaker 4: that don't agree. So how realistic is it? And what
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  Speaker 4: does that time that look like? Because when you were
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  Speaker 4: saying it, I'm not gonna say it in my time here,
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  Speaker 4: it's gonna be generation generations.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Lauren, I love that question. Okay, because you're right,
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  Speaker 1: that's exactly the question everybody should ask. Okay, because Democrats
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  Speaker 1: get in and then they never do it right, and
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  Speaker 1: so I get super frustrated. First thing they took out
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  Speaker 1: of the bill, the COVID relief bill under Biden was
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  Speaker 1: fifteen dollars minum wage. Now, if you do fifteen dollars
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  Speaker 1: minute wage, you not only raise people's wages to the
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  Speaker 1: tune of about ninety two billion dollars, right, that goes
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  Speaker 1: from the richest people in the country, the people who
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  Speaker 1: need it the most, who are working, right, but you
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  Speaker 1: also raise the wages above that. And then whenever you
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  Speaker 1: go to do that. They go, oh, no, you can't
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  Speaker 1: do that because that'll drive up inflation. No, inflation is
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  Speaker 1: already here. I need my wages to go up to
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  Speaker 1: keep up with it, right, So why don't we ever
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  Speaker 1: pass any of those things because of the donor class.
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  Speaker 1: So so look, you know, if you're a Democrat, I
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  Speaker 1: hate to break it to you, right. So if you're
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  Speaker 1: a Republican, I got terrible news for you, okay, But
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  Speaker 1: if you're a Democrat, I got bad news, which is
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  Speaker 1: that Biden and all those guys they never meant it.
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  Speaker 1: They never That's why they took fifteen dollar minu wage
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  Speaker 1: right out of the bill. So why are we different
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  Speaker 1: a no corporate donors. No candidate is allowed to take
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  Speaker 1: corporate pac money if they're with rebellion pack. And so
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  Speaker 1: so far we got Rocanna, the first guy who said
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  Speaker 1: no corporate pac money at all, and he's awesome, and
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  Speaker 1: he's the one that worked with Bernie to get fifteen
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  Speaker 1: dollar minum wage at Amazon. And when they first started that,
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you're not gonna be able to pressure Amazon.
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  Speaker 1: You don't have any power. What are you guys gonna do?
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  Speaker 1: You Progressive, you know, you're always rabble rousing, and guess
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  Speaker 1: what they got fifty dollarmenum wage at Amazon. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: Roseman delivering throughout. Now we got Richard O. Jetta running
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  Speaker 1: in North Carolina. Nine That brother almost beat somebody in
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia when he was down fifty when that's a
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  Speaker 1: R plus fifty four. So what But when we get
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  Speaker 1: in Lauren, if we don't deliver like here, I'll put
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  Speaker 1: the first one up on the board. Paid family leave,
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  Speaker 1: so that's twelve weeks off from moms after they have
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  Speaker 1: a baby. Use that.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I have a baby, but my mom was sick,
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  Speaker 4: so I had to use pay family leave.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And but you know that eighty five percent of
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  Speaker 1: Americans don't have paid family leave. Yeah, I mean that's
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  Speaker 1: crazy not to have. You got to go back to
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  Speaker 1: work the next day, or you got to burn all
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  Speaker 1: your vacation time, all your sick time. It's so unfair.
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  Speaker 1: So that pulls at eighty four percent. What that means
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  Speaker 1: is the Democrats and Republicans are full of crap. If
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  Speaker 1: you can't pass something that said eighty four percent, you're
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  Speaker 1: not trying, Okay. So what we're gonna do if we win,
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  Speaker 1: is we're gonna try, and we're gonna try like hell,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna kick out whoever is in our path,
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  Speaker 1: whether they're Republicans or Democrats. So if they want to
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  Speaker 1: come cry about it, no problem. We're populous. We're ready
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  Speaker 1: to kick their ass. So it's not like, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like the old days, I'll go We'll be so kind
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  Speaker 1: to our colleagues. Our colleagues are so precious. No, your
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  Speaker 1: colleagues aren't that precious. They're the ones who killed all
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  Speaker 1: these bills. So I demand accountability for our candidates. I'll
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  Speaker 1: do the accountability. If they throw any of these bills
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  Speaker 1: under the bus, then we're gonna kick him out of
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  Speaker 1: the group. But they're not going to because they're great guys.
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  Speaker 1: And we got another guy coming on May first too.
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  Speaker 2: I think everything that's just saying is great. I just
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  Speaker 2: I feel like it's four years too late. And what
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  Speaker 2: I mean by that is we're talking as if we're
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  Speaker 2: in normal times, as if the midterms are just gonna
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  Speaker 2: come and we're just gonna go vote, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: put the people in a twenty twenty eight is just
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  Speaker 2: gonna come and we're just gonna go vote.
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  Speaker 3: They're already telling us.
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  Speaker 2: What they're planning to do. They want Trump to run
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  Speaker 2: for a third term. I just don't think. I don't
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  Speaker 2: think these normal ways of doing things are gonna be
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  Speaker 2: able to combat what is currently in the White House.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think we understand that yet because it's
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  Speaker 2: just talk. Yeah, when they actually do the things that
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  Speaker 2: they stated, they're knowing definite, everybody's gonna lize like, oh wait,
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  Speaker 2: so we.
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  Speaker 3: Don't have frean fair elections no more.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Sean me a couple of layers said right, So,
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  Speaker 1: first off, we're the only ones as far as I
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  Speaker 1: can see, that's actually got a plan, right, So, like,
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  Speaker 1: and I encourage everybody else, like, if you don't like
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  Speaker 1: our plan, great, if you're a Democrat, come up with
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  Speaker 1: a different plan, right, and then plant your flag like
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  Speaker 1: we're doing, and say hey, you know, I'm for this
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  Speaker 1: or I'm for that. We're saying we're for economic possibles
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna win Congress. So step one in beating
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  Speaker 1: Trump and also taking over the Democratic parties. You gotta
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  Speaker 1: win these elections.
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  Speaker 3: If they're free and fair.
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  Speaker 1: Lie right, So now, Charlote Maane to the point you're making.
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  Speaker 1: So at some point, so why were you and I
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  Speaker 1: opposed to Trump. We were posting him because we were
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  Speaker 1: worried that he was gonna do authoritarian crap like this.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you and I worry about Joe Biden? Not
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  Speaker 1: because we hate Joe Biden, but because we were worried
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  Speaker 1: he was gonna lose to Trump. That's right, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: And unfortunately we were right about all of that. Right,
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  Speaker 1: So okay, now what's the next step. So I've gone
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  Speaker 1: on every kind of show. So I'm here on Breakfast slow,
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  Speaker 1: but I've gone on you know, Patrick, but David and
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  Speaker 1: Tim Poole and David pac Man and Brian Tyler Coche,
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  Speaker 1: so every left, right, everything in between, right breaking points,
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  Speaker 1: et cetera. Right, So what I see from the right
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  Speaker 1: in that is some of them are hardcore maga guys,
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  Speaker 1: and if Trump says and the Constitution, they are lighted
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  Speaker 1: on fire, right, But half of them are just bros,
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  Speaker 1: And they're like, wait, why are we burning the constitution?
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  Speaker 1: I thought we were in favor of the constitution. So
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  Speaker 1: you're beginning to see that. When I first said that,
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  Speaker 1: people are like, oh, get at here. There's no way
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  Speaker 1: every Trump voters racist, fascist, et cetera. But and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Trump burns up the stock market,
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  Speaker 1: and Dave Portnoy, who supported Trump, is out there going,
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  Speaker 1: what the hell I just lost twenty million dollars. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I don't like this. I don't like this, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't blame him, you know I don't. I don't have
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  Speaker 1: the twenty million to lose, but I know i'd be mad. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So that's financial. You go to Rogan, and Rogan's like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
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  Speaker 1: what are we getting ready to do process for? Why
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  Speaker 1: are we locking people up without even bringing them to
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  Speaker 1: a court. What part of that is America? And it
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  Speaker 1: is in America? Right.
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  Speaker 2: You got candas always talking about them taking away freedom speech.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so and look you're seeing on behalf of
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  Speaker 1: Israel they're snatching up people off the streets, and so
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  Speaker 1: that's I mean, it doesn't get any more. Cancel culture,
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  Speaker 1: then I'm gonna arrest you with massive men, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: deport you. I mean, that's canceling your life, right, And
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  Speaker 1: so they cancel their diplomas, et cetera. So I see
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  Speaker 1: all that. But my point to you, Charlemagne, is that
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  Speaker 1: you'd be surprised at how many other people see that.
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  Speaker 1: So he came in at around fifty percent, which is
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  Speaker 1: as high as he's ever been. Boom last poll out
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  Speaker 1: he's down to forty opposes fifty nine percent. He's already
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  Speaker 1: in a nineteen point hole and he's going south. So
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  Speaker 1: if he goes to cancel elections for examples, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: put anything past them, right, But at that point, it's
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  Speaker 1: not just going to be us on the left, and
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  Speaker 1: it's not just going to be minorities. It's going to
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  Speaker 1: be people like Rogan and others who go, no, no, no, no.
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  Speaker 1: We signed up for lower prices, we signed up for
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  Speaker 1: closing the border, We signed up for some of the
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  Speaker 1: things you or I might agree with or disagree with,
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  Speaker 1: but we didn't sign up for this.
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  Speaker 3: But then what happens when he starts locking up the media.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so look here's your bell weather. Okay, he locks
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  Speaker 1: me up. We're in a lot of trouble. Okay, But
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  Speaker 1: here I am on the front lines. I oppose him
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  Speaker 1: one hundred percent. I'm doing a democratic movement to make
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  Speaker 1: sure he loses in Congress. I'm Muslim, I'm a huge
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  Speaker 1: critic of Israel, and I'm a naturalized citizen. Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: if anyone's on the front line, I'm at the very
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  Speaker 1: very front of that line, and I'm saying, come get me. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm don't say that. Don't give me a reason.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. My point is, though, guys, if we
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  Speaker 1: all panic, we're not gonna get anything done. I agree
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  Speaker 1: with that. Okay, So let's all stay calm, let's come up,
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  Speaker 1: let's do a plan. I go here. I am with
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  Speaker 1: a plan to actually take power away from him in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. If you got a better plan, I'm
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  Speaker 1: all ears right. But what I can't have is no plan.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I which I don't want to be pessimistic. I
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  Speaker 2: just wonder if if we're all too late, Yeah, I thought,
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  Speaker 2: that's literally what I want.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So well, get into the audience if you know,
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of months, I'm gone to Charlotte Magne's gun. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: you better act, you better do something right, because then
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  Speaker 1: we're at the precipice of almost too late, and that's
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  Speaker 1: when we're gonna see who what everybody's all about? Who
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  Speaker 1: is Joe Rogan right? Who are all these bros? Right?
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  Speaker 1: Did they actually mean it when they said freedom? Because
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  Speaker 1: they can they talk about freedom twenty four to seven.
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  Speaker 1: Right when they were in the minority, they're like freedom, freedom, freedom,
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  Speaker 1: freedom of speech, freedom of this, freedom of that. They
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  Speaker 1: in the controlled they're like, no arrest everybody who cares
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  Speaker 1: about due processes, et cetera. So, okay, hard core maga
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  Speaker 1: is gonna believe that. But all other Trump voters, who
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  Speaker 1: are you? Do you believe in America or don't you
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  Speaker 1: believe in America? Because if you get rid of due process,
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  Speaker 1: that's Western civilization, that is a cornerstone. That means you
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  Speaker 1: hate Western civilization. You want to go backwards to kings
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  Speaker 1: and dictators, et cetera. So if that's who you are,
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  Speaker 1: just raise your hand, raise your hand. But if you're
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  Speaker 1: a Trump voter like dude, I just wanted lower prices, right,
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  Speaker 1: I just I thought crime is a little out of control.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't ask for this crap. And by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's what fifty nine percent of the country is saying. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we didn't ask for this crap. So let's go. Let's go,
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  Speaker 1: let's get animated. Go to rebellionpac dot com. Get in
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  Speaker 1: the game. We're asking for candidates. You want to run
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  Speaker 1: against these guys. Let's go right, you volunteers, donations, whatever
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  Speaker 1: you need. But let's go. So go help Richard O.
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  Speaker 1: Jetta in North Carolina. He's in an R plus that. Look,
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  Speaker 1: let me give you a scenario. So Rocana is an
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  Speaker 1: incumbenty and he's already great. He's co chair of Bernie's campaign.
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  Speaker 1: We all know and love row right. So and then
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  Speaker 1: by the way, our populist plank side, and by of
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  Speaker 1: course Nina Turner yep, car East Memorye Newman, and by
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  Speaker 1: the way, Dan Osborne, who's an independent who ran Nebraska,
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  Speaker 1: signed the populace playing those six things that I talked
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  Speaker 1: to you about, because everybody loves it. Right. So now
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  Speaker 1: we're saying, now, look at Ojetta. Ojetta is in an
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  Speaker 1: R plus ten district and that is super hard to
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  Speaker 1: win that as a Republican. It's not even a purple district.
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  Speaker 1: It's a red district. It's got Fort Braggett. But he's
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  Speaker 1: a retired Army major. He served in Fort Bragg for
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  Speaker 1: sixteen years and he's an absolute ass kicker. He almost
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  Speaker 1: won in West Virginia once in an R plus fifty four.
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  Speaker 1: He almost overcame fifty four points. Why because his ads
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  Speaker 1: were like after drug companies. Okay, f all these corporations
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  Speaker 1: who are screwing you and taking money out of your pocket.
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  Speaker 1: And people are like, yeah, I like that, right, so
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  Speaker 1: we can win those independents back. They just wanted populism.
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  Speaker 1: They didn't know that Trump was full of crap. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: for us, we think, how could they not know? How
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: could they not know? But remember how sick they are
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  Speaker 1: of the system. That's right, right, and the system super corrupt.
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  Speaker 1: So Trump was lucky and smart. He was the first
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  Speaker 1: guy to raise his hand and go, this is all corrupt.
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  Speaker 1: I you know you hate this. I hate this. Now
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  Speaker 1: he's even more corrupt. But people didn't know that. They
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  Speaker 1: thought they were signing up for anti corruption. So my point, Charlemagne,
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  Speaker 1: is why don't we actually give an anti corruption get
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  Speaker 1: money out of politics. These donors run the whole place,
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  Speaker 1: and we know it. So if you're a Democrat, don't
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  Speaker 1: tell me the donors that don't run the place. Come on.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's ridiculous even when they try to say things.
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  Speaker 2: You know, all these conversations about oligarchy, oligarchy, oligarchy. Now
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  Speaker 2: Bernie and AOC they can go out there and say
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  Speaker 2: fight to oligarchy, Yes, came Jefferies. You can't say that, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I cut it out. We know that you've taken so
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  Speaker 2: much money from corporate donors. So it's just weird to
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  Speaker 2: see them, you know, push back against oligarchy now and say,
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  Speaker 2: look at the billionaires controlling Trump.
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  Speaker 1: It's like really, yeah, you really really.
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  Speaker 4: But don't you need don't you don't you have to
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  Speaker 4: lean into like the donors at some point, like you
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  Speaker 4: need money big corporations to move at some point though, Right,
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  Speaker 4: So how does that work with what your plan is?
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  Speaker 4: Because they're not gonna want to lean in and help
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  Speaker 4: you if you're opposing everything that they're trying to control
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  Speaker 4: you to do. So where does the money? Where does
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  Speaker 4: the power come from?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? So another great question. So last time I co
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  Speaker 1: founded Just Democrats and so that's AOC et cetera. And
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  Speaker 1: so we got the same questions, especially back then because
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  Speaker 1: we hadn't pulled off the miraculous AOC victory yet, right,
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  Speaker 1: So people are like, AOC, she's a bartender, el Hana omark, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: to lead, she's the girl. Yeah, And so we said
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  Speaker 1: watch okay, and especially my co founders, they were so
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  Speaker 1: gung ho on AOC. They went all in on her
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  Speaker 1: and they said, you want what we're gonna do, and
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  Speaker 1: we did it, and we won that election and made
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  Speaker 1: a big difference. Right, So this time around, So are
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  Speaker 1: the corporations going to opposse us?
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  Speaker 3: Hell?
• 13:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do we want them to oppose us? Yes? I
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: don't want their help. I don't need their help. Their
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: help is toxic because their help comes with a price tag.
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: Charlomne is one hundred percent right. You know what Keeme
• 13:57
  Speaker 1: Jeffres was just doing. We just reported on the young Turks.
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: He just collected one point two million dollars went over
• 14:02
  Speaker 1: to the bankers, Like one of them had to pay
• 14:04
  Speaker 1: six million dollar fine for ripping people off. Another one
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: had to pay like some gigantic like sixty or six
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: hundred million dollars fine because he ripped people off. And
• 14:12
  Speaker 1: he's like, no, no, it's all good. I got money
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: from corporations. No, it's not all good. I don't want
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: that money. That money's toxic. So but at the end
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: of the day, Lauren, if we don't get the money
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: out of the system completely, then we're at a big disadvantage.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: So our job is to get inside the gates open
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: the doors for real, populous, real people Americans to come
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: into Congress, but most importantly, capture the Democratic Party at
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: the top, which I'll get to in a second, and
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: then just take the donor money out because you can't
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: do it unless you're at the top. But if you're
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: at the top, you give me a populis president and
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: I promise you wouldn't take that money out. So how right?
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: Because because Democrats were used to in our lifetime, they
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: get in and they go, oh, there's nothing I could do.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: But hold on, dude, you just got there. You got there.
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: What do you mean you didn't even try yet? Here
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: in day two you're telling me you don't there's nothing
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: you could do. Like Joe Biden on day two is like,
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: oh fifteen dollar minu Wags's nothing I could do. I'm
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: gonna take it out. Wow, Well, what do you mean
• 15:05
  Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: And you didn't even you didn't even.
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: Get a vote on it. You know why? Because the
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: corporations don't want higher wages, they want lower wages. Right,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: why don't we have paid family leave this corporations Like, oh,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: that's gonna cost me a couple of nickels, right, And
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't care about moms. I want them
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: back on the assembly line. Right. So all these guys
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: on the Democratic side, this says, oh, I'm gonna work
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: with corporations and eventually twenty years from now, two hundred
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: years from now, they're gonna be patriotic and they're gonna
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: be on our side. No, they're not. You just got
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: to get their money out because there we live under
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: corporate rule. Like they're squeezing us and squeezing us they
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: like I keep telling people, look, man, don't fight left
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: or right, fight up right, like if you're looking to
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: follow the money. Yeah, And why do they do these
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: wedge issues where they drive us apart right, like, go
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: they go find the super obscure transsports professional this that
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the other thing, because they're trying to find a way
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: to divide us because if we're fighting left and right,
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: we're never going to be able to get united enough
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: to fight the folks who actually have power up top.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: So and you can do a constitucial amendment. So this
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: is an super important part of the plant because if
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: you win in these red and purple districts in twenty
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: twenty six, then we get the credibility to say, hey, listen,
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: the establishment told you that they know what they're doing
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: and that they were definitely going to win, and then
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: you got Hillary Clinton, and then you got Kamala Harris. Sorry,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: but you didn't know. You said you knew, but you
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: didn't know. We said, we do know. We think we
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: can get miraculous victories like AOC and we did know.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: We were right right. And now I'm telling you again,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: We're gonna get miraculous victories in purple and red districts.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: And when we do that, don't tell me we don't know.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: We know right. So then you take that credibility and
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: you go, Now you want to run the same old
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: corporate stooge on the Democratic side, or do you want
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: to run a strong progressive populist who's going to say,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: let's go get this thing done. Let's bring this back
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: to the party of FDR past important bills that change
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: people's lives. Because guys, if we haven't passed the bills, Lauren,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: to your original point, then we didn't do anything. Like
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: if I get a Jetta in and the next guy
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: coming in May and Row and we get them all
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: in and they don't pass any bills, then we didn't
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: get anything done. That's just ego gratification.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: What do you think about what David Hodge is doing?
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: I like it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah. So they're all crying. And I saw a
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: headline just this morning right before I came in about oh,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: they're you know, they're gonna give him an ultimatum at
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: the DNC. Of course they are, because they're they're a
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: corruption protection racket, right, So they're like, oh, yeah, how
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: you can't primary in comments? Why why can't I can't you? Yeah?
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And then in mainstream media they do this every time,
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, oh, you know, you're just going against Democrats. Yeah,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: with other Democrats, with cleaner Democrats and Democrats more likely
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: to win, more.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Likely to beat Republicans, and Democrats willing to fight exactly.
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: So, and then DNC goes, how dare you fight, David Hogg?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: You you better not fight, You better know your role.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: So I love that he doesn't know. Now I don't
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: know whose candidates are, but God bless him. I don't
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: really care like And by the way, I keep saying,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: if you say, hey, Jenke, I don't like your economic populism.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I just want to focus on culture wars or this
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: or that the other thing, and or I think corporations
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: aren't that. But great, brother, plant your flag, run your candidates.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: We'll see you all in the primaries. Right. And so
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: in the beginning, like for a lot of our candidates,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: there isn't going to be any primary because there's so
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: tough races that the Democrats are like, oh there's a candidate.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: There's a good candidate, thank god. Right, But for in
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty eight, we'll see you all in the primary.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: If you think your guys better, put up your gavinnosom
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: of his slick hair, put up your Pete bootages making
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: excuses out for all the donors, and we'll bring our
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: strong populace and let's game on. Let's do this.
• 18:46
  Speaker 3: I do like Pete. I like Pete.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: And the reason I like Pee because I remember having
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a conversation with Pete here on Breakfast Club.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: This is a while ago, like this was years ago actually,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: and I.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Would like, we're talking about having this conversation about taking
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: corporate money, and I'm like, can you trust a power
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: politician who takes corporate money? And he goes well, when
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: you take corporate money, he said, you can take corporate money,
• 19:05
  Speaker 2: but you just can't tell these corporations can't tell you
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: what to do.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I don't think that's possible, you.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Know what I mean, Like, I don't think it's possible
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: to take the corporate money and not be beholden to
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the corporate donors. Now, if you are a politician that
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: can do that, great for you. I just don't know
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: if it can happen.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. So look, here's the deal with Buddhagic.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: So Buddhachic is really smart and he makes a good
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: case for Democrats. So when he goes on Fox News
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: and he makes democratic case, God bless you brother. No problem.
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Everybody say, I'm happy to have everybody on our team, right,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: But he takes a lot of corporate money, and so
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I'm worried about it. I'm super worried about it. And
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but I'm not going to cross my fingers
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: and hope for the best, like we've done that too
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: many times. But I'm not trying to rule anybody out right,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just saying, hey, listen, you run your race,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: we'll run our race, and let's all get on the
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: same team. Let's beat Trump in twenty twenty six. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: this is the most important. Pick the strongest candidate in
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: twenty eight because the Democratic Party always tells you to
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: pick the weakest candidate, the most corporate candidate, the most
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: establishment candidate. Stop listening to them. They don't know what
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: they're talking about. They're the same guys who told you
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: that Joe Biden was young and dynamic, right, they're lying
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: to you.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: We've had this conversation.
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: There's only one person I think could come in because
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: I don't think that the Democrats need to be rehabilitated.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: I think it needs to be destroyed and rebuilt period.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: Who could come in and do that?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: John Stewart? Yeah, okay, the only one that makes it.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Now, if I had to pick an elected official, it's
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: gonna have to be a governor, right because you can
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: just look at the work they did in this state.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: For me, that would be Governor jos Shapiro. Other than that,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: John Stewart.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: So I backed John Shapiro for VP. I love Tim
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Wallas though. That was a great pick, So no harm
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: done in my opinion on that. But Shapiro is a
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: great governor and could he win an election. Yeah, he
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: could win an election. So and he's even done some
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: little bit of anti corruption work in Pennsylvania. I'll take it.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: I'll take it. That's a good start, right again, not
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: hating on anyone, God bless Okay, and Shapiro is I
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: think among the best of them. So, but look on
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: our side, we got ro Conna, we got Nina Turner,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: we got AOC, we got a lot of strong people.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Now outside of politics, we got John Stewart. Right. You know,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: Steven A. Smith keeps running his mouth about wanting to run,
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: all right, God bless whatever. He's conservative, but yeah, he's
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: too conservative for my taste. Blah blah blah.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: But I just don't think he would. I don't think
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: he'd be really taking serious in the general election. I
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: actually think that it's conservatives that are pushing that messaging
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: more than anybody because they want Democrats to run somebody
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: like Navan A. Smith because they know they'd win in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: a landslide, and that Steve is my guy. But that's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: just how I feel about it.
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: I agree completely like that how we feel about Stephen
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: as a person and a sports anchor is different than
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: as a candidate. Right. But the reason I brought him
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: up is because it's not wrong to look at entertainment.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, Ronald Reagan was an actor. Donald Trump
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: was a reality show host. He's not even a businessman.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: He went bankrupt six times. He was known as the
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: King of Debt. So and here he is again piling
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: up debt on top of our heads. Right, So, John Stewart, Charlemagne,
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: how's that for a ting? No?
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Hell no, but John stewartt definitely because John Stewart actually
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: knows what he's talking about. And John Stewart has actually
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: gotten legislation path. We've seen John Stewart on the hill
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: fighting for these firefighters here in New York City, and.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: He has a plan Like I love the Weekly Show.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: That's one of my favorite podcasts I listen to when
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: I listened to my news, I'm on Young Turks.
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: I'm listening to the Weekly Show every week.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Right, and he the conversations he's having with Democrats, libertarians,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: conservatives are the best conversations to be right now.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, let me make another case for John. Look, so,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: first off, I've never seen him be wrong. Okay, and
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: that's a hell of a thing. He's been around for
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: a long, long time. Right. Yeah, I haven't seen him
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: be wrong. Factually, I haven't seen him be wrong on
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: policy in terms of fighting for the average guy. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: that is super hard, even just opinion, even just like,
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know that I've ever seen a single thing
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: with Stuart said where I was like, oh, whoa, he
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: lost me there. Right, So incredible record on the issues
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and actually caring. And then you're right, all these politicians
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: always say, oh, there's nothing we could do. Oh no,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we're so powerless. John got a bill passed from outside
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: of Congress. He got more done outside of Congress, and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: people inside Congress there's five hundred and thirty five people
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: in there and they couldn't do what John Stewart did
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: from the outside. Right, So he has a record of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: proving actually getting bill's passes, affecting people's lives. He's right
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: on the policies. We know he's honest. Right, So you
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: can message, Yeah, if they're picking reality show hosts and
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: they're picking I mean, look, they'll pick Kim Kardashian next,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: so I'll take John Stewart, right, So let's go. And
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: but the problem with John is that I like, I
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: don't know if he wants to do it.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: He doesn't want to.
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: But you know, it's interesting when I watched The Daily
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Show and I'm like, I love the Daily Show, you know,
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: I make regular appearances on it. But I'm like, you
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: can look at John and tell he should be doing
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: something bigger and it has nothing to do with entertainment.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: I really think he should be running.
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: For some type of office and it should be President
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: of United No.
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he shouldn't mess around with Congress or city council. No,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: He's gonna run for president. So look, last thing on
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: John is that I kind of feel like Marcus Aureli
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: is Ingladiator where you know where Maximus says me, no,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: it can't be me, And that's what John is saying,
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: basically me, it can't be me, and Marcus really says
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: to him, brother, that's why it's gotta be you.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: That makes all the sense in the world, all the
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: sense in the world. Why do you like Rocanna so much?
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: Real cool?
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: I like ro but why do you like some So
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: a couple.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: Of reasons why he's always leading? Right, So, while other
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: congressmen are trying to figure out, oh my god, what's
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: the angle? Where should I go? Rose like, all right,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: now let's go let's go, let's go get this done. Okay,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: let's rebuild manufacturing, let's pass these bills here it is, right,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: So that's number one. You lead by leading, and I
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: haven't seen anyone lead like Rocanna, So that's awesome. Okay.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Number two is he gets it. He's talking about economic
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: populas and bringing people jobs, being people, bringing higher wages, healthcare,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the stuff that people care about. Right. Number three, when
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: push comes to shove, you know Young c super hard
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: interview a lot of times, right, so we you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: we were super tough on Toulci gabbartt when we sniffed
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: out that she wasn't really progressive and she was actually
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: a Republican. I did two incredibly tough interviews with her,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: on and on and on, and everybody's seen our tough interview.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: Ro Kana comes on, we disagree on something in the
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: middle of the Biden administration, and me and Ann are
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: yelling at him, and he's like, I hear you, guys,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: but here's why I thought of what I did. And
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: then he comes back the next day. Other politicians never
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: come back. Do you see what I'm saying? Like when
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: you have a disagreement. The guy has strength that he
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: could say this is what I think, and I don't
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: mind that you think that, and we should exchange these ideas.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to come back tomorrow, and I'm going
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: to come back the next day, and I'm going to
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: push for what I think is right. I mean, how
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: many politicians you see like that? That's true.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: So if all goes well and everybody that you want
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: and gets in y'all, but to start moving and doing
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: all these things, there's going to be timeshere y'all gonna
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: have disappoint people because everything can't happen the way they
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: need to. How do they handle that? Because I think
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: that's another thing that happens with Democrats. They make it
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: seem like they're never going to disappoint, and then they do,
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: and then they don't know how to come back from it.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: You said that right now. Trump is his message and
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: everything was good, but he is doing horrible when it
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: comes to the tariffs. He's blowing it. Is what you said.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he is sticking.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: To his ground on like this is what we need
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: to do. We might lose some people in the midst
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: of it, but it'll make for better According to him later,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: y'all might have to do that too. Then what happens
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: because people will say, you guys are blowing it at
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: that point.
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So, first off, Trump isn't really sticking to what
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: he said. He said global tariffs for everyone or at
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: ridiculous comical levels, and we're like, what the I don't
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: mind tariffs? Like you could protect certain industries with tariffs,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: right and rebuild manufacturing, So it's not crazy to do
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: some tariffs, right. But when he announced, oh, I'm going
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: to do like these unbelievable, heard of before tariffs all
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: across the world, We're all like, what are you doing?
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: That's crazy? Right? So then he took that back, and
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: then he had one hundred and forty five percent tariffs
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: on China, and we're like, you know what iPhones are
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: gonna cost if you do that? Then he took that back, right,
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: So now he's down to still stupid tariffs on China
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: because they're so gigantic that they're not productive, right, so
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: et cetera. So now you now flip it back on us, yea, right,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: So what happens Number one? If we do something wrong?
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Just like ro Kana, He's like, hey, listen, we we do.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: We fight for what's right. If it turns out we
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: weren't right, then you bring it back right. So there's
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: no shame in saying, hey, we tried our best, we
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: tried this, and you guys said you didn't love it,
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: so then we're going to next. So why do we
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: pick like those six bills right, anti war, money out
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: of politics, et cetera. Because those are super popular, They're
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: all above two thirds. So if our guys getting into
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: Congress in twenty twenty six, what we're gonna say is
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: not just Republicans, but Democrats too, why are you all
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: preventing a bill that said eighty four percent? Why are
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you all such radicals that you're in the sixteen percent?
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: So because mainstream media will say, oh, paid family leave,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: that is a radical progressive idea. Oh no, nobody can
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: pass out the filibuster the parliamentarian right. Yeah, And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Sixteen percent is radical. Eighty four percent is not radical.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: This whole country wants is seventy four percent of Republicans
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: want it, over ninety percent of Democrats wanted, over eighty
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: percent of independence wanted. Now, if we can't pass something
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: we're at an impass. Why because the corporate donors are
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: going to come in. They're gonna buy the manches and
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: the cinemas. Even if they're out, there's gonna be new
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: mansions in cinemas, et cetera. What are we gonna do.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: We're gonna start calling people out. So that's what you've
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: never seen in.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Politics, right best in the democratic fact, No Trump did it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, helping out.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: And that's kind of what I mean by not like
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: he's doing what he said he was going to do,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: because he does what he wants. I just mean that
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: like when some if he says he wants something and
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: it doesn't go his way, he calls people out. He does,
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: he sends a flairs, scare tactic, lose in the midst
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: of it. That's what I meant by Oh, and nemocats
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: don't do that at all, Like they played this like
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: pr You can't scare, you can't ruffle a feather. God
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: is good, Everything is love. That's how we handle issues.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I tried to get the VP to call out Cinema.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I tried to get her a call out mansion. I
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: tried to get all the Democrats do it. They just
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: would not do it for whatever reason.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: So I know the reason. And Lauren, that's such again
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: a great question, right, because if we don't call people out,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: you can't get it done. So it's like Trump is
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: terrible on policy, but on strategy, I get it right. So,
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like the Democrats say, oh, you can't just intimidate people
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: into voting your right, What do you mean? I just
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: saw Trump do it. I just saw Trump do it
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: like twelve times. I've seen Trump do it now, time
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and time again. What do you mean you can't do it? No,
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: it's not that you can't do it's that you don't
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: want to do it, right, And so and Lauren, they
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: take that like God is good, all that attitude as
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: a cover story. Oh we're so nice, we're so nice
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: that we can't call out our colleagues. That would be mean.
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: But in reality, they're both taking the same donor money.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: And there's a saying called revolving door of bad guys. Right,
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So so what if now that mansion and cinema are gone,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you'll see that there. If the Democrats regain the Senate,
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: there'll be two new bad guys, right, or eight new
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: bad guys.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: Now, it's Chris Coons and Carperate from Delaware. Yeah, well
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: not the best Democrat, but anyway, they'll be the new
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: bad guys, right, but in reality there's forty eight Democrats
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: behind them. And then, so what we're gonna do, which
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: is different, especially you get Ojetta in there, you won't
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: be able to stop Ojetta. Okay, like that guy, I mean,
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: you're gonna love Ojetta. If you two, you and Charlotte,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Charlotte meere, you and Ojeda would get along so great. Anyways,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: what we're gonna say is no, sorry, paid family leave.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: You took this much money from that industry. You took
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: this much money from that industry, and that's why you're
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: voting now. So let's say that we're back into when
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: it was cinema and mansion and they're blocking all these things.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: O Jetta and all the new guys would come in
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: and go, Cinema's wrong, mansion is wrong. You know, after
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: they killed paid family leave and those two voted no,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry on minimum wage, they voted no. Right afterwards,
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: they went to the National Restaurant Association and started collecting
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: checks from them. Because the National Restaurant Association was the
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: number one lobby against the higher minimum wage. They're so corrupt,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: and we're rubbing it in people's face, and mainstream media
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: covers for them twenty four to seven. Did you tell
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: everybody how corrupt mansion a cinema are. Did you tell
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: them that they literally went to go pick up bribes,
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: like legalized bribes the day after the vote. I think
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: one of them was on the day of the vote.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: So they come in their fancy outfit and they shimmer
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: and then they vote, yeah, and with their pins and
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: they vote, know, they go collect their bribes. Right, Mainstream
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: media never calls them out, and Democrats never called them out.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: We're calling them out. We're calling them I you hear
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: me saying it about cinema mansion. You hear me and
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Charlotte talking about it, Hakeem Jefferies, Chuck Schumer talking about
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: billionaire buddies. He's like doing talking points like, oh Republicans
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: and they're billionaire buddies. Hey, brother, come on, come on, man,
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: how many billionaire budies do you have? Exactly right, So
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: if you don't call them out, you're never gonna get
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: anything done. That's the one thing Trump is right about.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: So let's get our guy in. But that, unlike Trump,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: isn't just for himself, but if for once, for once,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: actually looks out for all of us. So that's why
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: honesty is more important than anything else. That's why I
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: talk about John Stewart. That's why I talk about Rocanna
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: because I think that, And I talked about Nina Turner
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and those folks because they're honest. Here's the three things
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: that they share. Honesty, smart, and strongly. Those are the
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: three things you need. Without all three, it's not the
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: right guy.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: To your point about h you know Trump, like and
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: Trump came in as the outside, I'm gonna come in
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: and I'm gonna drain the swamp. Is the Democratic brand
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: so toxic that regardless of how good the candidates are,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: the brand of Democrat will hurt them.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: No, not at all. So, like, is it toxic for
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: the moment being in places like you know, Kansas, Nebraska,
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: et cetera, well even there, Yes, and no, like car Eastman,
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: who's the executive director of Rebellion Impact that's running this
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you know Rebellion. Now, Kara nearly won in the middle
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: of Nebraska by and so she lost by appointent aut
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: to Don Bacon. Why because the corrupt Democrat that she
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: beat in a primary ran an add against her saying, hey,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: if you're a demorat vote against her. So like she
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: had it. My point is, and then James Thompson, Brent
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Welder almost won in the middle of Kansas and then
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Tracy then the person who was against Welder, wound up
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: winning that seat. So we can win anywhere. And remember
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Kentucky West Virginia used to be deeply Democratic states. Why
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: because they were populist. Kentucky and West Virginia are not conservative,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: They're populous. There's a difference, right like if we run
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: to if we if rebellion is successful enough that we
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: help in picking the Democratic candidate and we're involved in
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: that twenty twenty eight race, I would argue our headquarters
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: should be in Kentucky, Okay, because to say to people,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: we are not doing this just for blue states. We
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: are not doing this or the elites. We're doing this
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: and we're bringing the Democratic Party back to its populous
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: roots where they dominated in Kentucky and West Virginia, so
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: that we do it everywhere. We win everywhere, and so
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: then you rescue the brand is because it's not like
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the brand wasn't great under FDR. I mean, the brother
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: won four terms, right, and the country loved them. They
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: still love them. The brand was strong under JFK. So
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: the brand can be rescued and there is no option anyway.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: What are you gonna do? Go Republican? You can't go republican?
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Right, So you've got a create a third party, a bible,
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I think, a viable third party.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: That's what you guys have anywhere?
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, So the reason they'll never let a
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: third party win? Yeah, well, it's not just that the
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: third party. Unfortunately, the way that the system is structured.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: It's not like I didn't look into it. We looked
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: into it a lot. Right, So you need to be
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: almost a billionaire to run as a third party candidate
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: because just getting it on the ballot costs so much money.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Asking about the donors and the money, I'm like, it
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: sounds like y'all are another third party trying to come together.
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: Y'all need the money because if not, y'all don't have
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: the platform and like the glitz and the glamour that
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: you need to become those two main candidates.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: But so here's the thing, Lauren. So okay, they say
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: third party. That's so difficult, et cetera. Taking over the
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Democratic Party. It's really difficult. But wait is it? Because
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Trump took over the Republican Party with no problems, right,
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: so what do you do? He came in and he
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: ran as the Republican, right, so he ran as a
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: Republican first of all. Actually, did you guys know he
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: originally ran in two thousand as an independent absolutely and
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: got smoked because independent third party is near impossible. Right,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: But he's like, oh wait, I got a better idea.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Why don't I just go inside the Republican tent and
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: just take it? Right? And I remember I called that
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: he was gonna win in like October or November of
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, before they even started voting in the primaries
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: in twenty sixty. You know why. I saw the debate
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: where he said I gave money to everybody else on
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: this stage. They took it and they did whatever I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: told him. I'm like, that said he's gonna win. Okay,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: so you get somebody like that but actually means well
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: and actually represents the average American and people can sense it. Right,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: put them on a democratic stage. Why don't we just
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: take the Democratic Party? So like people are always talking about, hey,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: maybe we should rebuild a new car, and you know,
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: HONDEI or whatever. There's a Bentley right over there. Why
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: don't we go take that one? And besides which, the
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: guy driving the Bentley is a sleep of the wheel. Like, oh,
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be really hard to take it from Chuck Schumer.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Is it? No?
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: John Stewart, I love this idea. I love what you're doing.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: I love what David Hodge is doing. I think it's fantastic.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I just.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Tell them how to support all right, So, first of all,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: rebellionpac dot com. Since we're not taking corporate money, we
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: need a lot of grassroots stoners. Last time, for just Democrats,
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: the Young Turk's audience raised two and a half million dollars. Wow,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: this time, let's double it. Right, Let's get these guys
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: some real juice, and we're gonna get them on all
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: the shows and all the podcasts, get their voice out there.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: They're not afraid, they're not afraid. They love their message.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: They want to tell their message. Okay, so rebellionpac dot com.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: But also volunteer, right, and also if you can, if
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: you want to and we've already I announced it yesterday,
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: already a bunch of people going through the candidate process.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So that's how we found AOC. By the way, when
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: we did just Democrats, her brother nominated her. Wow.
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: So it was like an application of It.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Was like an application. We have an application on Rebellion
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: pac dot com.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: You gotta tell me what you saw. What did you
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: see on that application?
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So I was a co founder. I mainly did the
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: media part. I named the group, et cetera. But Shoycott
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: who's now running against the Nancy Pelosi and Corbyn Trent Iszac.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Actually those guys were the co founders who were handling
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: that stuff. And what they saw was here's someone who
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: cares about the community, who's busting her ass trying to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: make a difference and doing it and getting things done
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: when she's just a bartender, right, so she meaning like
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: she's working her ass off at a regular job and
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: she's having trouble paying the bills. Yet she's out there
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: helping the community and she's getting it done, and the
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: community is telling us same thing with Jamal Bowman, this
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: amazing teacher in New York. You guys got to meet
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: this guy. Okay, Cory Bush, this amazing nurse and she's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: on the front line all the time in Ferguson and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Saint Louis, et cetera. So that's how we find folks.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: But we can't run everybody. You know, you got to
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: be judicious and you got to find the best people.
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: So I don't want to give people false soap. You
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: got to come correct and you got to be great. Right.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: But if you're doing that and you're an honest person,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: rebellionpac dot com, we're gonna at least consider you are
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: as the Democratic Party wouldn't, right, So Okay, then the
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: other way is just keep up with young turks, Like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: we're on on YouTube six o'clock every night, six eight o'clock,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: me and Anna, right, and so we're gonna give news
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: about all the updates and stuff, and then we're gonna,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: I'm sure, have amazing people join our advisory board to
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: help us win, like maybe Charlotte Mayne.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: No, I would do that.
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, Okay, Yeah, let's let's talk about it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I would love that, right, And we got some other
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: folks that are, you know, interested in joining the advisory
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: board that I think would be amazing. Let's get a
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: wide variety right everywhere everyone. Charlotte made from you to
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: like I want Harvard law professor Larry Lessigan, he's a
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: godfather of money in politics. Get money out of politics.
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: And so let's get smart, passionate people to actually overcome
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the system that we have here. And so look, if
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: you give up, they win. If you stay on your couch,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: they win. Right. But if you get up and try, look, protests,
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: I love it. It needs a step two and this
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: is step two, right. Step two is we actually go
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: win and take back Congress. Step three is we go
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: take over the Democratic Party and win the country over
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: and actually pass the bills. Right. But step one's great.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: Get in the game somehow, right, make some noise, volunteer
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: for a rebellion pack, go to protests, and or you
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: you hurt. Somebody's got a better idea, do that idea, right,
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: But get in the game. Because the minute you sit
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: down and lose hope is the minute they win. Because
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: their number one enemy is hope. If we all have
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: hope in our hearts, then we're all gonna keep rising
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: up and rising up and rising up, and they're not
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: going to be able to stop us. But the minute
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: we lose hope is the minute that they've won. So
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: that's why a lot of the doom and gloom these
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: days is super understandable because Trump is really run a
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: rough shot over the Constitution. On the other hand, I
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: don't want people to get depressed, Like, depression doesn't help
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: us at all, right, I want you to get activated.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: And by the way, the other thing is emotional release.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Like you can. You could hate Trump and as you
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: can tell for me, like not a fan of Trump, right,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: but we're not about hating Trump. We're about beating Trump. Right.
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: Because if what I'm worried about is you hate him,
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: hate him, hate theim and you get so angry and
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: depressed and you stay home and you and you lose
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: hope and you lose faith, right, don't do that because
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that helps Trump. Your depression helps Trump. He wants you depressed.
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: Don't let him do it. Get up and fight back,
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: and you can yell like at his voters, but that's
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: not gonna help. Remember, we want the independence back on
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: our side. Remember that he's at fifty nine percent disapproval.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That means we're winning, he's losing. That means those independence
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: are movable. Just because they voted for Trump doesn't mean
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: they're gonna stay with Trump. Let's go win those guys back.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: And the way that you win him back but is
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: by offering a positive solution, like we're doing. We're gonna
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: actually improve your lives. We're actually gonna make things better
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: for you. We're actually gonna be honest, we're actually gonna
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: deliver for you. That's how you get people back up
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: in the streets with hope, fighting back in a productive way,
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: get the independence back and let's win these elections and
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: let's pass these bills.
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: Tell them where to find you.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: May so Young Turks on YouTube six eight o'clock. You
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: could of course find it on tyt dot com as
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: well and rebellionpac dot com.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: To help this movement, Rebellion packed down your Instagrams and
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: all of that.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: So at Jank Huger and at the Young Turks and
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: you'll be able to find us on all the platforms.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: Man Chank, thank you for joining us, brother.
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Charley Man. I appreciate it. Thank you Lauren
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: great questions. Really appreciated it.
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: It's the breakfast club, Wake that ass up in the morning.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Breakfast Club