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Scientology's Enforcer Breaks Down On Camera | Louis Theroux's My Scientology Movie · Under the Docs

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Speaker 5: And let's get into scientology today, Like literally, let's all
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Speaker 5: join scientology and find out for ourselves if it's true
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Speaker 5: or not. That's not exactly what Louis the Road does here,
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Speaker 5: But he's got this documentary that's called My Scientology Movie
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Speaker 5: from twenty fifteen that's probably one of the better expose
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Speaker 5: as before it became a thing. Like he's kind of
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Speaker 5: like the Scientology documentary hipster.
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Speaker 2: And It was interesting because it kind of threw back
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Speaker 2: to one of our earlier episodes that we did, the Nathan.
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Speaker 2: It kind of had that feel of the pilot the
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Speaker 2: rehearsal too right, like where it's just I don't know
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Speaker 2: what it was, And maybe it's because we watched that first.
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Speaker 1: Obviously this came out first, but it.
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Speaker 2: Had that same feel of like running through people and
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Speaker 2: like putting them actors into the right place.
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Speaker 5: Well, this because Scientology is notoriously litigious, like they will
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Speaker 5: bring people to court and they will like one of
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Speaker 5: the examples that we're going to get into this documentary
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Speaker 5: that the guy in charge of essentially enforcing rules within
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Speaker 5: Scientology hired a private investigator to tail somebody for twenty
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Speaker 5: years like that they have a certain grudge. So, just
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Speaker 5: for the record, we're pro Scientology. This episode sponsored by Scientology,
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Speaker 5: like we have no ill will towards Scientologists.
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Speaker 6: Keep the money flowing.
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Speaker 5: Plot in the course, you already mentioned that you gave
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Speaker 5: this one sort of like a Nathan for you vibes
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Speaker 5: the way that they rehearse all this. So here's the
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Speaker 5: reason is that if you're in Scientology, you're probably not
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Speaker 5: allowed to be in this.
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Speaker 6: It would be like any other religion.
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Speaker 5: If you're a Catholic, you might not be in a
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Speaker 5: documentary criticizing the Roman Church, or if you're LDS, you
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Speaker 5: might not be in a documentary talk about about Joseph
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Speaker 5: Smith because you'd immediately be excommunicated. And in Scientology, I
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Speaker 5: guess as much as or even more so than other religions.
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Speaker 5: As Luie the Roe is trying to point it out here,
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Speaker 5: is that if you leave Scientology, you're leaving behind your
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Speaker 5: entire life, like your friends, your family, everything, to the
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Speaker 5: point where you literally get excommunicated and your family members
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Speaker 5: and previous friends are not allowed to even talk to
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Speaker 5: you if you're deemed a suppressive person in AKA and SP.
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Speaker 5: So if you get deemed an SP, you'd literally get
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Speaker 5: pushed out of your tribe, and it probably taps into
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Speaker 5: something way deeper, right, like actually being pushed out of
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Speaker 5: a tribe. It's making every part of your body that's
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Speaker 5: thinking like fight or flight, like oh, I'm about to
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Speaker 5: starve to death now.
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Speaker 2: I think when you look at this documentary on the surface, right,
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Speaker 2: they follow Martin the formal the former like tough guy,
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Speaker 2: like the enforcer of Scientology, the guy that's like coming
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Speaker 2: after you.
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Speaker 1: The guy that's orchestrating this stuff.
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Speaker 6: The bad guy, like like this big Bond villain. They've
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Speaker 6: got it.
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Speaker 2: He's the architect of like the pain. Like he's like, oh,
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Speaker 2: you're leaving scientology. Oh you're exposing us. Here's the psychological warfare.
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Speaker 1: That we're gonna go.
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Speaker 2: Let's stay on the legal grounds, right, They're they're they're
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Speaker 2: constantly trying to find a way to stay legal in
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Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff. And at first when you're
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Speaker 2: watching it, I'm like seeing them talk to Martin and
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Speaker 2: he's like, you know, obviously another scorned like yeah, former scientologist,
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Speaker 2: and obviously something happened. I'm sure if he was still
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Speaker 2: the enforcer, he'd be doing the same things. And he
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Speaker 2: still kind of has I will say I like Louis,
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Speaker 2: Like Louis was pretty balanced. I know we saw him
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Speaker 2: in some other stuff, that red Pill stuff, but in
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Speaker 2: this particular thing, I felt like he was pretty balance
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Speaker 2: and fair in my perspective, where he's like, I could
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Speaker 2: see where you're coming from. But then he's like, also, Martin,
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Speaker 2: it seems like he still has a lot of the
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Speaker 2: beliefs of the scientologist.
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Speaker 1: It's more that he's scorned, and he highlights that very early.
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Speaker 5: So Louis Thereau's his stick is basically being this overly
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Speaker 5: neutral straight guy. Like any gag there's like the straight guy, right,
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Speaker 5: meaning that the one that's normal, and then something ridiculous
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Speaker 5: is happening around him, so the comedy becomes like, how's
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Speaker 5: a normal person react in this crazy situation? So he
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Speaker 5: posits himself as this like perfect straight man that comes
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Speaker 5: in that's just like, oh, I don't understand why you're
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Speaker 5: acting in these weird ways. So you kind of know
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Speaker 5: that if Louis Thereaux is doing a documentary on you,
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Speaker 5: that you're probably gonna be seen as some like weird
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Speaker 5: buffoon or some extremist in some way, because you're gonna
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Speaker 5: be counter to this totally neutral, almost like no emotional
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Speaker 5: response to even someone screaming at him or saying something nonsensical,
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Speaker 5: Like his whole thing is to not necessarily have a
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Speaker 5: reaction and then to just follow up with a question like,
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Speaker 5: so tell me more about this crazy thing you just said,
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Speaker 5: Like he wouldn't say in those terms, he'd repeat what
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Speaker 5: you said. But that's his whole stick. So there's a
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Speaker 5: whole generation of people that are only going to know
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Speaker 5: about Louis Threaux because he did a Manisphere documentary where
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Speaker 5: he's like exposing the Manisphere. So here's him exposing Scientology.
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Speaker 5: And he had a series where he came to the
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Speaker 5: US and he just talks to a bunch of like
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Speaker 5: little cult members like all over the country and stuff,
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Speaker 5: and again it's just like exposing how crazy these people
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Speaker 5: are and how nonsensical these people are. So here is
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Speaker 5: that exact same energy that he brings to the Scientology aspect.
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Speaker 5: And the reason of the Nathan for you like reenactments
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Speaker 5: is because they can't get anyone on camera, so they
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Speaker 5: go out and they hire people to act like David Misscavage,
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Speaker 5: the guy that is suppose to be running Scientology. They
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Speaker 5: get someone to act that kind of looks like Tom Cruise,
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Speaker 5: so they can have like a Tom Cruise, you know,
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Speaker 5: scene and everything. And then they're also pushing the edge
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Speaker 5: the entire time where Scientology is like we own this
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Speaker 5: road and we own this building, and so they'll go
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Speaker 5: and actually find the records and be like, well technically
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Speaker 5: it only goes up to here, so they'll just like
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Speaker 5: take a step back from the exact line. So they're
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Speaker 5: technically always doing everything legal. So he's like he's an
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Speaker 5: ultimate troll, I guess, is what I'm saying. Like he
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Speaker 5: can figure out exactly how far to push you and
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Speaker 5: then look like he's being neutral.
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Speaker 2: He's in classic troll right, this is before just the
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Speaker 2: Internet of throwing shit at the wall.
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Speaker 1: Like he's like, gonna find your little holes in your plan.
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Speaker 2: And it was fun to see throughout the film a
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Speaker 2: lot of the like playing the cat and mouse game,
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Speaker 2: and he's like being the aggressor and the antagonizer towards
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Speaker 2: them when they are trying to be the antagonizer towards him.
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Speaker 2: But the heat doesn't have any skin in the game,
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Speaker 2: so he's like, I don't care, Like you can show
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Speaker 2: a camera in your face. I could shove a camera
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Speaker 2: in your face and it kind of neutralizes it compared
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Speaker 2: to like obviously like if you have a connection. Then
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Speaker 2: they kind of go through a little bit what scientology is,
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Speaker 2: which it still doesn't fully tell you, like I am
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Speaker 2: not an expert on scientology, Like.
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Speaker 1: It is something that's always confusing to me.
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Speaker 2: I kind of understand the basis of it, but like
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Speaker 2: how he goes in through it, like as they're getting
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Speaker 2: these actors.
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Speaker 1: Now, He's like, and this is what scientology is.
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Speaker 2: They don't believe in God, but they believe in levels
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Speaker 2: and humans and reencar like.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm like like.
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Speaker 2: Little astrological dramatriy for you, Like right, it's almost like
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Speaker 2: they brought the Christianity the astrology and dramatria stuff and
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Speaker 2: they just smash it together and they're like and aliens
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Speaker 2: and then boom, you got a scientolg.
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Speaker 1: That's my breakdown of it.
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Speaker 5: They don't do a great job in this documentary to
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Speaker 5: explain what scientology actually is. That this documentary is far
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Speaker 5: more about who are the people behind scientificlogy, what are
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Speaker 5: the tactics of recruiting? And then ultimately the reason scientology,
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Speaker 5: I think started getting some bad associations was that there
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Speaker 5: were internet groups in the late nineties where people that
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Speaker 5: claim to be in their sea org or that were
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Speaker 5: going through some sort of like reprimand or like rehabilitation
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Speaker 5: within scientology, or complaining about being held.
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Speaker 6: Against their will and being abused. And they don't get
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Speaker 6: into any of that either.
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Speaker 5: This is just Louis going and provoking and getting a
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Speaker 5: first hand account of all the rumors that you kind
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Speaker 5: of hear, but we don't get a backstory of like
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Speaker 5: where this rumor started. I think the most they do
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Speaker 5: in this is they do explain very superficially that it's
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Speaker 5: a religion created by a sci fi writer and then
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Speaker 5: headed by an unapproachable leader. That's kind of the way
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Speaker 5: that they describe it, describing l Ron Hubbard was that
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Speaker 5: sci fi writer, and the unapproachable leader is supposed to
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Speaker 5: be David and this Gabbage. And then they also make
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Speaker 5: this equation of the disciples are top Hollywood actors, which also,
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Speaker 5: I mean, all of that is more or less accurate,
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Speaker 5: but you're only getting like eight words to describe an
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Speaker 5: entire religion, their entire infrastructure, and their entire background. It
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Speaker 5: is way deeper than that, but we're not here to
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Speaker 5: talk about. You can go and watch some of our
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Speaker 5: other episodes on Scientology.
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Speaker 2: And they kind of focus more on like like you said,
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Speaker 2: and that's where you have to narrow it down, and
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Speaker 2: you have to see what the filmmaker is trying to
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Speaker 2: tell you. And through this he's talking with Martin and they're,
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Speaker 2: like you said, they're kind of exposing the infrastructure of
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Speaker 2: how people escape, like how they're harassed afterwards and kind
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Speaker 2: of the mindset of what would.
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Speaker 1: Get you there.
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Speaker 2: They talk to former members and they're kind of in
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Speaker 2: this sphere of like, well, why would you because that's
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Speaker 2: what everybody wants to know.
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Speaker 1: Why the hell would you not just leave? Why the
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Speaker 1: hell did you join?
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Speaker 2: And they kind of give you find more light onto
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Speaker 2: why someone would join something like scientology.
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Speaker 6: One of the obvious ones.
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Speaker 5: I guess that makes more sense for the Hollywood Center,
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Speaker 5: which is where they're kind of focusing on in this
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Speaker 5: documentary too, because I think the other hub is in Clearwater, Florida,
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Speaker 5: but that one is it doesn't have the same vibe
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Speaker 5: because in Hollywood, there's almost like an unspoken reason is
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Speaker 5: because because I want to have some gigs. The idiot like,
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Speaker 5: I'm an actor. I'm trying to break into this industry.
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Speaker 5: And I heard from a friend of a friend that
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Speaker 5: if I join this thing and get high up enough
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Speaker 5: in it, then I can at least meet other people.
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Speaker 5: So even if I'm not popping off in five or
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Speaker 5: ten years, if they are, there's almost like you've bought in.
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Speaker 5: It's like in job insurance homos, like you're paying towards
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Speaker 5: maybe having a job offer come your way. That's I
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Speaker 5: think ultimately that's part of it for the Hollywood Center
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Speaker 5: aspect and the reason and they do a decent job
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Speaker 5: of talking about Okay, So, like l Ron Hubbard is
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Speaker 5: this sci fi writer and he comes up with this
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Speaker 5: concept in nineteen fifties where he writes a book called
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Speaker 5: Dionetics and Dianetics. They don't explain totally, but it's essentially
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Speaker 5: that we we all have these like eternal souls, like
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Speaker 5: thetans that kind of live inside of our bodies, and
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Speaker 5: that even when the body goes away, the thetans that
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Speaker 5: it's like if you know the premise of a soul.
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Speaker 5: It's not the exact thing, but it's close enough to
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Speaker 5: be like, all right, they've they got these thetans that
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Speaker 5: are souls. But then there's other body, thetans that are
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Speaker 5: like kind of like these parasitic things that hang on.
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Speaker 5: And that scientology teaches you how to rig yourself of
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Speaker 5: these other parasitic body, thetans, through things called auditing and
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Speaker 5: through basically like psychological torture. Uh that if you can
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Speaker 5: put up with all kinds of weird situations called like
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Speaker 5: squirreling or squirrel busting or bull baiting, and there's a
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Speaker 5: long list of them, but a lot of it amounts
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Speaker 5: to in the early stages, if you can suppress your emotion,
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Speaker 5: if you can force yourself to never act based on
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Speaker 5: emotion and only with logic, then you're through the process
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Speaker 5: ridding yourself of all these other like all that negative
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Speaker 5: emotion and the envy and the thing that makes you
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Speaker 5: want to like punch somebody because they made you angry.
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Speaker 6: That's not really you.
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Speaker 5: That's this body, Thetan that's attached to your body, and
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Speaker 5: if you can ignore it long enough, you'll starve it
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Speaker 5: and it'll leave you. I'm oversimplifying that, but I think
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Speaker 5: that's the general concept, and they think they have these
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Speaker 5: concepts of like going clear, and going clear it means
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Speaker 5: you've rid yourself of all these parasites essentially, and they've
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Speaker 5: got levels that you would get all the way up to.
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Speaker 5: So they mentioned that tom cruise is an OT seven,
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Speaker 5: and OT means operating Thetan, meaning that you're in control
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Speaker 5: of your own Thetan soul and you realize that this
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Speaker 5: is just a meat suit and you're getting rid of
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Speaker 5: all these parasites, and that the highest you can go
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Speaker 5: is OT eight.
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Speaker 6: So it's and I like.
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Speaker 5: How Louis Thureaux here's his method where like he asks
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Speaker 5: this obvious question. It's like, oh so like once he's
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Speaker 5: a OT eight, like you can't get any higher. Like
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Speaker 5: he's the like he's a perfect human being at that point. No,
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Speaker 5: no problems, no emotional responses to anything. And so that,
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Speaker 5: I mean that's the general premise. And then the other
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Speaker 5: really good thing that they do in this documentary that
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Speaker 5: usually doesn't come out in other ones is that el
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Speaker 5: Ron Hubbard puts together. He treats early scientology like it's
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Speaker 5: the military, or like it's the CIA. And he has
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Speaker 5: this thing called Project Celebrity in nineteen fifty five where
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Speaker 5: he actively promotes Hollywood actors. He goes after James Stewart,
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Speaker 5: Greta Garbo, and Danny Kay and he's like, if I
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Speaker 5: can get these high profile actors on board with my religion,
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Speaker 5: then more people want to get on board. So it's
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Speaker 5: not a coincidence that people would go into the Hollywood
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Speaker 5: Center and think, if I join this, I'll get a job.
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Speaker 2: I also want to mention to get rid of the
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Speaker 2: parasites in your body, it's a good way to go
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Speaker 2: onemockingbirds dot com, and like and subscribe to show the
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Speaker 2: more you share, the more parasites leave.
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Speaker 1: The more viewers we get, the more parasites that leave
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Speaker 1: your body.
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Speaker 5: Just fooverthought, we go to OT ten here, like we
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Speaker 5: don't stop at ota, We'll go all the way to
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Speaker 5: ten for even cheaper. And and by the way, that's
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Speaker 5: the other thing is that they're talking to somebody that
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Speaker 5: I think I don't think they've made it all the
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Speaker 5: way up to OT eight, but they made it too clear.
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Speaker 6: And they're asking them, well, how much money does it cost?
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Speaker 5: You know, all in all the training and the books
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Speaker 5: you have to provide, and you have to go to
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Speaker 5: these retreats, and a lot of this just sounds like
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Speaker 5: self empowerment management courses that people get sucked into. But
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Speaker 5: if you turn that into a religion, there's like an
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Speaker 5: aspect of that. And he tells them that he's currently
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Speaker 5: at like fifty grand end, so the ticket to get
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Speaker 5: all the way there and this is a normal Joe Schmo, right,
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Speaker 5: this is not somebody because I as so even in churches,
15:43
Speaker 5: a lot of that, like as you're tithing is like
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Speaker 5: a percentage.
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Speaker 6: So if you're making bank, you're expected to give banks.
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Speaker 6: So there's probably.
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Speaker 5: People that are and I think one of the numbers
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Speaker 5: is upwards of three million dollars in order to get
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Speaker 5: all the way up to the level like Tom Cruise
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Speaker 5: would be at that.
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Speaker 2: That's what the insanity of it is is where you're like,
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Speaker 2: not only you're psychologically getting beat down and maybe physically
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Speaker 2: beaten down, right as they mentioned a little bit in
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Speaker 2: this film, but also your wallet is being just ransacked.
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Speaker 6: Man.
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Speaker 1: Like they got like the best of it.
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Speaker 2: It's like I said, they saw what the Christian world did,
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Speaker 2: and the Catholics they saw a little bit of what
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Speaker 2: the Freemasons did. They saw the astrologers or like, let's
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Speaker 2: just mix all this together and make our own group
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Speaker 2: and we'll make tax free money. Like that's what I
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Speaker 2: kept seeing throughout this thing. And I'm like, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's kind of genius.
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Speaker 1: It's not.
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Speaker 2: I get it's diabolical, but I'm like, you kind of
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Speaker 2: respect the gangster where you're like.
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Speaker 1: Oh, dang, man, Like I mean you figured it out, bro,
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Speaker 1: Like what can you do?
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Speaker 2: Like cause they even go through like how people want
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Speaker 2: to leave and that if you try to leave, you know,
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Speaker 2: you're in trouble. They even have a scene where they're
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Speaker 2: talking about someone was trying to get the FBI to
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Speaker 2: raid them. They went to the end, the FBI goes,
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Speaker 2: you know, we were thinking about raiding them, and well,
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Speaker 2: we'll find out what's going on and will liberate these people.
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Speaker 1: And there they just kind of laugh at them.
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Speaker 2: One of the former survivors tells with Guy Martin, the
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Speaker 2: head of the security, he was like, yeah, we just
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Speaker 2: laughed at them because there's nothing you're gonna do. You're
17:05
Speaker 2: gonna go in there and they'll be like, no, we
17:06
Speaker 2: wanted this to be We wanted to get punched in
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Speaker 2: the face. I wanted to be in this sleep deprived position.
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Speaker 2: Like so, there's nothing you could do. And then even
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Speaker 2: Louis does his research and they even have like a
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Speaker 2: little blurb about it where it's just like, yeah, the
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Speaker 2: FBI did try to go and they were like, oh,
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Speaker 2: not worth it.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing we can do. They they're all consenting adults.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not like they show up and they're liberating
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Speaker 5: a bunch of kidnapped victims. They're like, no, I'm paying
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Speaker 5: fifty thousand dollars to be here right now. There's no
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Speaker 5: way you're dragging me out of here. I'm not losing
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Speaker 5: all that money, you know, and the time and money invested.
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Speaker 5: So it gets challenging in that regard because it's not
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Speaker 5: just a typical dynamic for that.
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Speaker 6: And then they're also explaining the Sea Org.
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Speaker 5: So once you get high up enough, if you want
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Speaker 5: to become like an officer, because again l Ron Hubbard
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Speaker 5: treated this like it was a navy, so everything follows that,
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Speaker 5: and their clergy is this Sea Org and that you
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Speaker 5: have to sign a billion year contract and then you
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Speaker 5: get to dress up like a navy officer and you
18:08
Speaker 5: go out on like the ships, and that's where some
18:10
Speaker 5: of the create In the terms of this documentary, it's
18:13
Speaker 5: like that's where the crazy ones come from. They all
18:15
Speaker 5: come from this Sea Org place. So they don't get
18:19
Speaker 5: into how el Ron Hubbard came up with all this
18:21
Speaker 5: to begin with. And it was funny that you're like, oh,
18:24
Speaker 5: you know, he's taking a little bit of like freemasonry,
18:26
Speaker 5: he's taking a little bit of this. Well, that's because
18:28
Speaker 5: l Ron Hubbard was a disciple of Alistair Crowley, and
18:31
Speaker 5: Alistair Crowley literally did that. He literally went and sampled
18:34
Speaker 5: all these different organizations and religious groups and was like,
18:38
Speaker 5: I'm gonna make a fun one that's kind of like
18:40
Speaker 5: takes the best of all, you know, blackjack and hookers,
18:42
Speaker 5: and that becomes his religion of Thalma. And I believe
18:46
Speaker 5: that there was a rift between l Ron Hubbard and
18:50
Speaker 5: Alistair Crowley and l Ron Hubbard at a certain point,
18:53
Speaker 5: I'm oversimplifying, was just like, I'm gonna make my own
18:56
Speaker 5: Thilema with even more you know, crazy stuff going on,
19:00
Speaker 5: and it becomes way more scientific and like secular. Like
19:04
Speaker 5: even the name right scientology. It sounds like it's a
19:09
Speaker 5: religion based on science. And that's exactly how it was
19:12
Speaker 5: kind of crafted, even to the point where they show, Okay,
19:16
Speaker 5: here's the technology, here's the process of going clear, and
19:19
Speaker 5: they explain the e meters, and they don't tell you
19:22
Speaker 5: how they work. They just say it's a rudimentary version
19:25
Speaker 5: of a lie detector test. And they have Louis sitting
19:28
Speaker 5: there and they're asking them. You know, they would ask
19:29
Speaker 5: you all kinds of offensive questions and get some kind of
19:32
Speaker 5: rise out of you. And if the needle goes up,
19:34
Speaker 5: then it means that you're having some kind of an
19:37
Speaker 5: emotional response. So the way that you would get audited
19:41
Speaker 5: and to prove that you're learning and that you're growing
19:43
Speaker 5: inside scientology is that someone can ask you invasive questions
19:48
Speaker 5: or scream at you, or do whatever to try and
19:50
Speaker 5: evoke a response. And if this E meter shows that
19:53
Speaker 5: you're not having an emotional response, then that means that
19:57
Speaker 5: you are like ready for the next test or ready
19:59
Speaker 5: for the next step. And what they do is every
20:02
Speaker 5: experience that you've ever had in your life that would
20:05
Speaker 5: evoke any kind of response from you is called an
20:08
Speaker 5: en gram, And an n gram's almost like a little
20:10
Speaker 5: stored memory somewhere.
20:11
Speaker 6: But you can see that.
20:13
Speaker 5: Instead of calling it a soul, they call it a thetan,
20:15
Speaker 5: and instead of calling it a memory, they call it
20:17
Speaker 5: an enngram. And there's all of these specific names for
20:21
Speaker 5: already familiar concepts, and you just kind of dress all
20:24
Speaker 5: that up as and here's a religion that if you
20:27
Speaker 5: give me three million dollars, I'll make it make more
20:29
Speaker 5: sense to you.
20:30
Speaker 2: But I wonder what Louie was thinking, right, because he
20:33
Speaker 2: was like, I'm thinking back to when I was eleven
20:35
Speaker 2: years old, and then it goes and I'm like, what
20:36
Speaker 2: we're you thinking, Louis, come on, man, you're putting everybody
20:38
Speaker 2: else's dirt out there.
20:39
Speaker 1: I want to know what happened to you when you
20:41
Speaker 1: were eleven.
20:41
Speaker 2: But I do like how Louis does insert himself in
20:44
Speaker 2: these things because it does make it feel like you
20:48
Speaker 2: can really understand how functions and the function of it.
20:50
Speaker 2: I won't get too much into it. I think some
20:52
Speaker 2: of this is in the hidden treasure portion of what
20:55
Speaker 2: I feel, But I like this aspect and I do
20:57
Speaker 2: like Louis as far as this film it make me
21:00
Speaker 2: like Louis and respect him a lot more.
21:02
Speaker 5: I will say I felt like we needed to watch
21:05
Speaker 5: this one just so that there's at least a well
21:08
Speaker 5: rounded idea of the kind of stuff that Louis does.
21:11
Speaker 5: Because the Manisphere one, it definitely has a certain feel
21:16
Speaker 5: to it, like it's it's one of the more biased
21:18
Speaker 5: ones I think he came out with on this one.
21:20
Speaker 5: Although if you're a current scientologist and you're watching this one,
21:23
Speaker 5: you're like, this guy you know and is biased, and yeah,
21:27
Speaker 5: he doesn't really put himself on display of like what
21:30
Speaker 5: his crazy beliefs and thoughts are. Another person that I
21:34
Speaker 5: think is similar to this is John Ronson, the guy
21:37
Speaker 5: that's snuck into Bohemian and grow with Alex Jones. He
21:39
Speaker 5: kind of has a very similar vibe to him, where
21:42
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm just gonna be this objective outsider that's
21:45
Speaker 5: like why why do you think this crazy thought? You know,
21:49
Speaker 5: and that's like that's kind of this this English comedy
21:52
Speaker 5: stick where you know, it's like this awkward comedy where
21:56
Speaker 5: they're the only straight man in the room. So the
21:58
Speaker 5: the other really interesting part of this one is they
22:01
Speaker 5: show a tiny little clip of the Tom Cruise recruitment video.
22:06
Speaker 5: And this is a Scientology recruitment video that got leaked.
22:09
Speaker 5: It wasn't supposed to be seen by the public. It
22:11
Speaker 5: was if he went to join Scientology, it's like, all right,
22:15
Speaker 5: come and sit in this room after you pay the
22:16
Speaker 5: initiation fee, and it's to like get your hyped up.
22:20
Speaker 5: And here's another part where it shows that Elron Hubbard
22:24
Speaker 5: was using Hollywood where he bought his own movie production studio.
22:29
Speaker 5: They had their own graphics department and they're showing these graphics.
22:32
Speaker 5: I mean, it looks like you're about to watch a
22:34
Speaker 5: blockbuster movie that just costs like three hundred million for
22:38
Speaker 5: WB to put together. Right, like the animatics and the
22:42
Speaker 5: audio like everything, like they're nailing it because these are
22:45
Speaker 5: literally the same people making those animatics in Hollywood for
22:49
Speaker 5: real Hollywood movies. They just happened to be scientologist on
22:53
Speaker 5: the side and working through this. So l Ron Hubbard
22:57
Speaker 5: has his own production movie studio. He's got like everything
23:00
Speaker 5: to gear specifically towards this, and they kill it. And
23:03
Speaker 5: one of these videos is Tom Cruise hyping you up
23:07
Speaker 5: like here's what scientology is gonna do and here's how.
23:09
Speaker 6: It works for me.
23:10
Speaker 5: And the most famous one that people make fun of
23:13
Speaker 5: that they kind of premise on this one is that
23:15
Speaker 5: they're like, have you ever met an sp And then
23:18
Speaker 5: he like starts laughing. He's like, can you imagine He's
23:20
Speaker 5: like laughing, And it's so absurd because if you don't
23:23
Speaker 5: know what all these weird acronyms he keeps dropping, it's like, oh,
23:26
Speaker 5: you got you got a KDS, you know every day
23:28
Speaker 5: a KDS or whatever, or a KSL. You got a KSL.
23:32
Speaker 5: If you're not KSL one, then you're not even living.
23:34
Speaker 5: So you're watching this thinking what the hell are these acronyms? Well,
23:37
Speaker 5: the SP, again, is a suppressive person. This is someone
23:41
Speaker 5: that criticizes Scientology that was in it and left, or
23:45
Speaker 5: just anyone seen as like a threat the Scientology would
23:48
Speaker 5: be an SP. And he's laughing because everyone is an
23:52
Speaker 5: SP to him, Like every single person that's not a
23:55
Speaker 5: Scientologist or I would assume that it's like a lower
23:58
Speaker 5: OT level than you is technically a suppressive person because
24:03
Speaker 5: they're not as clear and they might infect you with
24:05
Speaker 5: their body Thetan's and their their dirty ingrams or something.
24:09
Speaker 5: This is where I don't know the exact math between
24:12
Speaker 5: all the different relationships between like this these Scientology terms,
24:15
Speaker 5: but I feel like that's a general understanding of what
24:19
Speaker 5: this documentary puts out.
24:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it kind of gives you the feel of
24:22
Speaker 1: elitism right of where he's.
24:24
Speaker 2: Like, I am not going with those dirty sps, bro,
24:27
Speaker 2: They're gonna infect.
24:27
Speaker 6: You with their parasites.
24:30
Speaker 7: Uh.
24:30
Speaker 5: And they also mentioned that there's documentation within Scientology's paperwork
24:38
Speaker 5: and it tells you what to do with an SP
24:40
Speaker 5: if you come across a suppressive person.
24:42
Speaker 6: And the quote from l Ron Hubbard is ruin him.
24:46
Speaker 5: Utterly, So there's there's no mincing words here that if
24:49
Speaker 5: there's an SP in your life and you've got the resources,
24:52
Speaker 5: you're supposed to destroy their lives.
24:55
Speaker 6: Like that, that's the premise of it.
24:57
Speaker 5: So to hear Tom Cruise, a man with with seeming
25:00
Speaker 5: the infinite resources, laughing about wanting to take down sps
25:04
Speaker 5: the way that they frame it, I think they do
25:06
Speaker 5: a decent job. And then so they're hiring these Tom
25:11
Speaker 5: Cruise actors, and they're hiring people to look like David Misscavage,
25:15
Speaker 5: and Louie's going around and asking people for interviews, and
25:20
Speaker 5: obviously he's kind of stirring some stuff up, right, He's
25:23
Speaker 5: like kind of poking the hornet's nest. So halfway into
25:26
Speaker 5: this documentary, he notices a white Tacoma starts to follow
25:30
Speaker 5: him all over the place, and they pull over and
25:33
Speaker 5: a lady gets out and like a guy pops out
25:36
Speaker 5: with a huge like Hollywood style camera, Like the camera
25:38
Speaker 5: is probably a million dollars on the sky's shoulder, and
25:41
Speaker 5: she starts yelling at him like we own everything. We
25:44
Speaker 5: own these houses, we own the road, we own that building.
25:47
Speaker 5: You need to get out of here. The cops are coming.
25:49
Speaker 5: She calls the cops like total intimidation tactics. And you
25:52
Speaker 5: can even see the people with Louie are like, man,
25:55
Speaker 5: she's really angry, like maybe we should just leave. And Louie,
25:59
Speaker 5: I think, like to his most credit, he's got this
26:01
Speaker 5: like First Amendment auditor balls of steel where it's like, whatever,
26:05
Speaker 5: let the cops come. The cops want to come arrest us,
26:07
Speaker 5: get it on camera, like, keep keep the camera rolling,
26:10
Speaker 5: and he keeps doing that. The cops do come. The
26:13
Speaker 5: cops show up, and uh. And then it's funny that
26:17
Speaker 5: I can't tell if Louis was doing this to be
26:19
Speaker 5: intentionally like hypocritical, but he's talking to the cop and
26:24
Speaker 5: Louise cameraman's recording it, and then there's the scientology guy
26:27
Speaker 5: in the background and Louis saying to the cop like,
26:30
Speaker 5: are you concerned that he's recording us? And then the
26:32
Speaker 5: cops like you're recording us too, and he's like, okay,
26:35
Speaker 5: fair point. Like I don't know if he actually got
26:37
Speaker 5: lost in the moment and was trying to make a
26:39
Speaker 5: point or if he was doing that intentionally.
26:42
Speaker 6: I don't know. I don't know if you even picked
26:44
Speaker 6: up on that.
26:45
Speaker 2: No I did, And because the cops says specifically, he goes,
26:48
Speaker 2: I don't mind you, he's do you remind them recording you,
26:51
Speaker 2: and he's like, I don't mind you recording us either,
26:53
Speaker 2: And he's like, I think he got calmed the moment
26:55
Speaker 2: because he's like, oh.
26:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right.
26:57
Speaker 5: We are.
26:57
Speaker 1: Also have a big a guy with a hue came.
27:00
Speaker 2: I think he got lost because he was also using
27:02
Speaker 2: his phone or some kind of smaller camera. So I
27:05
Speaker 2: think he like somehow forgot like just being in the
27:08
Speaker 2: moment that that I'm like, dude, you also have a
27:10
Speaker 2: guy with the giant camera on his shoulder. It's like
27:14
Speaker 2: camera for camera, and I felt genuinely he got lost
27:17
Speaker 2: in the moment.
27:18
Speaker 5: So okay, I think I agree with you, and I
27:20
Speaker 5: think that part of the the feel that you get
27:24
Speaker 5: from louis which you also see a manisphere, But it's
27:27
Speaker 5: like this righteous indignation of like I'm funded by the BBC,
27:31
Speaker 5: Like I'm not a stupid, idiot, dumb American bumpkin like
27:35
Speaker 5: you are, and I'm funded by one of the greatest
27:38
Speaker 5: news organizations to ever grace this planet, you know, and
27:42
Speaker 5: elevate human consciousness. So like, you're not allowed to record.
27:46
Speaker 5: I'm allowed to record because I'm from BBC, but you're
27:48
Speaker 5: not allowed to record. I feel that he doesn't say that,
27:51
Speaker 5: and he doesn't necessarily exude that, but it feels like
27:54
Speaker 5: part of the DNA that allows him to be like, whatever,
27:57
Speaker 5: call the cops. I'm with the BBC. You know, PBC
28:00
Speaker 5: can outweigh the cups in this situation, and maybe they can,
28:03
Speaker 5: I don't know, but he makes it work for him.
28:07
Speaker 5: And then the other thing they do after he's getting tailed,
28:09
Speaker 5: it's like, all right, that becomes a recurring thing where
28:12
Speaker 5: this lady will like keep popping up in public. Then
28:15
Speaker 5: they get Marty, the guy that again was in charge
28:19
Speaker 5: of torturing people and harassing them and hiring pis Well.
28:24
Speaker 5: It turns out that he has some internal you know,
28:27
Speaker 5: scuffle with David Misscabbage, and instead of him saying I'm
28:32
Speaker 5: anti Scientology, now he's more like, I got my own
28:35
Speaker 5: version of Scientology. It's better than what Scientology is doing,
28:40
Speaker 5: so you should come and join my thing. So that's
28:42
Speaker 5: his bone to pick, is that he's not happy with
28:46
Speaker 5: Scientology administration, but he doesn't dislike everything that they do,
28:51
Speaker 5: like it isn't He almost seems like he enjoys some
28:55
Speaker 5: of like the quote unquote training and the abuse that
28:58
Speaker 5: he's showing other people doing. He kind of lights up.
29:00
Speaker 5: It's like what he gives him his energy. So they
29:03
Speaker 5: go do this thing called trs, which are training routines,
29:07
Speaker 5: and they also call them drills because of course you
29:09
Speaker 5: got to have like that the military terminology to make
29:12
Speaker 5: everyone feel that they're in the military now. And there's
29:16
Speaker 5: so many of the And this one's actually interesting because
29:18
Speaker 5: when I was at Disney, one of the animators I
29:20
Speaker 5: worked with he went through this audit process like this exact,
29:24
Speaker 5: and he told me about it way before this documentary
29:26
Speaker 5: had come out. And what they show in this one
29:29
Speaker 5: training drill, it's called the silent and no twitching, no moving.
29:35
Speaker 5: It's a student and a coach sit together, close up
29:38
Speaker 5: with their eyes closed and you just kind of sit
29:40
Speaker 5: there in silence, and he tells them, if you feel
29:43
Speaker 5: like you've accomplished something, raise your hand, which is like
29:46
Speaker 5: a total mind meld right where it's like I'm just
29:50
Speaker 5: sitting here, not saying anything, and I'm just supposed to
29:52
Speaker 5: have an epiphany. So you see a guy like raise
29:55
Speaker 5: his hand, so that is like, okay, now we're going
29:58
Speaker 5: to focus on you and show you how wrong you are,
30:01
Speaker 5: like you didn't learn anything, and how dare you first
30:04
Speaker 5: you know, standing out.
30:05
Speaker 6: This is like the nail that stands out and gets
30:06
Speaker 6: hammered down.
30:07
Speaker 5: So the guy does this, and now it shows that
30:11
Speaker 5: they're going to try and provoke an emotional response from
30:14
Speaker 5: this guy. So he's like, you are one ugly mf
30:17
Speaker 5: you know that, and he like throws his hands at him.
30:19
Speaker 5: He's like, gotcha. And if you flinch or it's like
30:22
Speaker 5: you're getting bullied in middle school, and if you have
30:25
Speaker 5: any reaction to the middle school bully.
30:27
Speaker 6: Then you fail to test. Like that's that's the whole
30:29
Speaker 6: entire drill.
30:31
Speaker 2: So if you watch a Christmas story and may train
30:33
Speaker 2: you to master's scientology.
30:38
Speaker 5: And you know what part of me and this is
30:39
Speaker 5: just me kind of like uh wondering. But if scientology
30:45
Speaker 5: focused on just getting kids that were picked on in school,
30:48
Speaker 5: it's almost like you're all you come in already at
30:51
Speaker 5: like a like an E four rank, Like you don't
30:53
Speaker 5: have to go through the first few ranks because you've
30:55
Speaker 5: already been through this. You sit down a chair and
30:58
Speaker 5: someone's like you freaking nerve, you know, flinch, flinch, and
31:02
Speaker 5: you're just like, dude, I've been through this for at
31:04
Speaker 5: least four or five years. In grade school, you're not
31:06
Speaker 5: gonna phase me, like, oh this, get this guy a
31:08
Speaker 5: management position, like that's kind of what it feels like.
31:12
Speaker 1: He's ready for it.
31:14
Speaker 5: And then so the guy that raises his hand, he
31:18
Speaker 5: kind of becomes the example. And that's the premise. It's
31:21
Speaker 5: very similar to the Louis thing, except when Louis was
31:24
Speaker 5: taking the E meter, he was just like, you know,
31:28
Speaker 5: you know, have you considered your wife might be cheating
31:30
Speaker 5: on you right now? Maybe your wife is like bagging
31:31
Speaker 5: someone else right now at this moment, or just saying
31:35
Speaker 5: sort of offensive, controversial things to just see if you
31:38
Speaker 5: get any reaction. And he doesn't because that's his profession.
31:42
Speaker 5: But this kid that raised his hand, that becomes the example. Yeah,
31:45
Speaker 5: Like when he starts like throwing his hands in his face,
31:48
Speaker 5: of course you're gonna flinch, You're gonna blink a little bit.
31:50
Speaker 5: It's hard to override. And that's where it becomes weird
31:54
Speaker 5: for me to watch because it's it's not like you're
31:57
Speaker 5: becoming emotionless. You're you're having the over ride, Like, let
32:01
Speaker 5: me prevent this guy from like accidentally hitting me in
32:04
Speaker 5: the eye and like scratching my corny it right now, right,
32:07
Speaker 5: So like if you can override self preservation, that's what
32:10
Speaker 5: they're looking for. And that's where it starts to get
32:12
Speaker 5: a little bit creepy for me. It's like, oh, you
32:14
Speaker 5: have to train yourself to like accept abuse and not
32:19
Speaker 5: even protect yourself.
32:21
Speaker 1: Like what happens to that?
32:22
Speaker 2: I just think, like the guy that they're doing that too,
32:25
Speaker 2: and then his reactions punch him in the face right like, oh,
32:29
Speaker 2: like I'm guessing, like I don't know where you land
32:31
Speaker 2: on that, Like do you get rewarded for hitting me
32:34
Speaker 2: or now alread you punished for hitting me?
32:37
Speaker 5: Well, So the guy that I worked with at Disney
32:41
Speaker 5: that went through one of these training scenarios, his one
32:45
Speaker 5: was not because because Louis is showing you probably the
32:48
Speaker 5: more controversial versions of the very visceral ones. So there's
32:52
Speaker 5: a there's probably a countless variations of these auditing processes.
32:57
Speaker 5: So one of them was that you'd have to sit
32:59
Speaker 5: in room and stare at the other the auditor just
33:03
Speaker 5: stare at them in the eyes and like you can blink,
33:06
Speaker 5: but you're not supposed to blink and you're not supposed
33:08
Speaker 5: to have any reaction whatsoever. And there's actually this is
33:12
Speaker 5: based on a scientific study that someone did at some
33:14
Speaker 5: point in some CIA funded Rockefeller College. But that for
33:19
Speaker 5: the most part, if you get two people to stare
33:21
Speaker 5: in each other's eyes for a period of time, one
33:23
Speaker 5: of them will like break down crying, Like they'll become emotional.
33:26
Speaker 5: You don't have to say anything, you don't have to
33:28
Speaker 5: make any kind of like motions. They'll just have an
33:31
Speaker 5: emotional response at a certain point. So the whole basis
33:34
Speaker 5: of this was to not have an emotional response and
33:37
Speaker 5: see how long you could last. The problem was that
33:42
Speaker 5: he was like the coolest, jolliest person you'd ever meet
33:46
Speaker 5: in your entire life. Like it's such a genuine good person,
33:49
Speaker 5: and if you put him in this situation where there's
33:52
Speaker 5: like an awkward silence, he would just start to be
33:54
Speaker 5: like start like laughing and giggling. So here he is
33:59
Speaker 5: like a brand new bumpkin training like right off the street. Essentially,
34:02
Speaker 5: he hasn't paid the fifty thousand yet he's like an
34:05
Speaker 5: early entry level guy. Like so it's like, all right,
34:08
Speaker 5: show me what you guys got. I hear you guys
34:10
Speaker 5: are teaching technology and science and it helps.
34:12
Speaker 6: You improve your life. Let's do this.
34:13
Speaker 5: Okay, they're auditing him, and they put the first trainer
34:16
Speaker 5: in front, and within ten seconds he starts like laughing
34:19
Speaker 5: and giggling, and then they start laughing and giggling. But
34:22
Speaker 5: it's like, well, wait a minute, if you're the teacher
34:25
Speaker 5: teaching me how to not have an emotional response, well
34:29
Speaker 5: then like clearly you're not a very good teacher because
34:32
Speaker 5: you can't even help yourself from laughing when this guy
34:35
Speaker 5: that just came off the street, he starts giggling and stuff.
34:38
Speaker 5: So they basically replace the trainer with like a higher
34:42
Speaker 5: level trainer, same exact thing. Within ten seconds, the guys
34:45
Speaker 5: like lying, like you know, are like laughing, crying and everything,
34:49
Speaker 5: because like you can't help yourself from.
34:51
Speaker 6: Laughing when Robbie starts laughing.
34:54
Speaker 5: So then they keep like replacing higher and higher management
34:59
Speaker 5: and no one can keep a straight face, you know,
35:02
Speaker 5: by just like this jolly old man. So eventually they're like,
35:05
Speaker 5: we're gonna have to ask you to leave, sir, Like
35:07
Speaker 5: this is not the right, you know thing for you.
35:10
Speaker 6: I don't think we're gonna work.
35:12
Speaker 5: And it was just like he found this cheek coude,
35:14
Speaker 5: but like he was proving that they couldn't find an
35:17
Speaker 5: ot high enough that's like I can completely suppress my
35:20
Speaker 5: emotions all never, and then like they would just start
35:22
Speaker 5: laughing in front of them, So it was necessarily like
35:25
Speaker 5: you know, oh, you're gonna flinch if I try and
35:27
Speaker 5: punch you. And it's not yelling at you or being means.
35:30
Speaker 5: Some of it is just can you suppress even laughter?
35:33
Speaker 5: Can you suppress crying? Can you suppress emotions in general?
35:37
Speaker 1: So he conquered scientology with laughter, well.
35:42
Speaker 6: He would I don't know if he would say conquer.
35:44
Speaker 5: Yeah, yes, he conquered it with laughter. But it was
35:46
Speaker 5: more like like he was the ultimate virus. They see
35:50
Speaker 5: this guy and they're like, uh oh, this guy can
35:52
Speaker 5: basically erode everything that we stand for just through him
35:57
Speaker 5: kind of being a jolly like, you know, liking to like,
36:00
Speaker 5: all right, let's get into the hidden treasures and overboard moments.
36:10
Speaker 5: Just because this documentary has a lot of scenes or
36:14
Speaker 5: like events that happen. More so than you get a
36:17
Speaker 5: full understanding of exactly what scientology is or how it
36:21
Speaker 5: works or how it's organized. We get the background on
36:24
Speaker 5: l Ron Hubbard, and then you basically just see Louis's
36:27
Speaker 5: personal experience and then some of these crazy reenactments. So
36:31
Speaker 5: the reenactments are probably the hidden treasures.
36:34
Speaker 6: I'll let you lead on them.
36:36
Speaker 2: My hidden treasure is the auditing and e meter and
36:39
Speaker 2: the egrams that resonated with me because it kind of
36:45
Speaker 2: puts it into perspective of how you can manipulate people,
36:48
Speaker 2: not just into cults or to scientology, but two political parties.
36:52
Speaker 2: And they use something that everybody uses to get you
36:56
Speaker 2: on board, whether it be a cult or quote a
37:00
Speaker 2: religious place or a political party, is they use emotions.
37:04
Speaker 2: And they have that meter, so they're like, let's make
37:07
Speaker 2: them emotional, which gives them this impulse, like to feed
37:11
Speaker 2: this meter which goes and now we're gonna take that down.
37:15
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk through it until the emotion leaves. And
37:18
Speaker 2: now I've proven to you that I that you need
37:21
Speaker 2: me because I'm controlling your emotions and really they're not right.
37:25
Speaker 2: You're you can get your own tools to like control
37:28
Speaker 2: your emotions. But the reason I thought it was such
37:31
Speaker 2: a hidden treasure for me is it highlights all these agencies,
37:36
Speaker 2: all these different things we go through, from MK Ultra
37:38
Speaker 2: to Operation mocking Bird to big media in general, or religious.
37:44
Speaker 1: Groups or anything.
37:45
Speaker 2: Is they use emotions to drive where they want you
37:49
Speaker 2: to go, and that's how they sway. And I'm like,
37:52
Speaker 2: this was just a great illustration. Now that's their version
37:55
Speaker 2: of it. I get it that not everybody's putting you
37:57
Speaker 2: onto an E meter, but I just was fascin to
38:00
Speaker 2: see louis doing and he's thinking of an emotional experience
38:03
Speaker 2: and you see it go up and then they talk
38:06
Speaker 2: with it through so now he feels better about the
38:08
Speaker 2: emotional experience and the meter goes down and somebody could go,
38:12
Speaker 2: oh wow, I need this in my life.
38:14
Speaker 5: And this is they don't really get into this aspect
38:18
Speaker 5: of it, but I feel that a lot of the
38:20
Speaker 5: tools that they're talking about and using the E meter
38:23
Speaker 5: and talking about the theatons and the nngrams, this is
38:26
Speaker 5: just ways of disassociating yourself from like these emotional responses.
38:31
Speaker 5: So the techniques are real and the science behind them
38:36
Speaker 5: is real. But then to be like, and you have
38:39
Speaker 5: to join this religion in order for this to work,
38:41
Speaker 5: or it's like it's the religion part that makes this.
38:44
Speaker 5: That's where it gets kind of weird and dicey. So
38:46
Speaker 5: they're rather and there's a very similar process with NLP
38:51
Speaker 5: and like neuro linguistic programming where it's supposed to be
38:54
Speaker 5: this objective science, but you only really know it if
38:57
Speaker 5: you pay to go to a class and get a certificate.
39:00
Speaker 5: And then once you get the certificate, you might as well,
39:03
Speaker 5: you know, charge other people to get trained by you,
39:06
Speaker 5: and now you're making money off it, and you can
39:07
Speaker 5: get an even bigger certificate that says I've trained one
39:09
Speaker 5: hundred people and I'm a master trainer, and now that
39:12
Speaker 5: means you've got these extra like that one is just
39:15
Speaker 5: another version of these pyramid schemes where you sign up
39:18
Speaker 5: ultimately to sign other people up, to sign other people up.
39:21
Speaker 5: I guess it would also be considered evangelism. So it's
39:24
Speaker 5: nothing new, right, It's like the exact same thing over
39:27
Speaker 5: and over again. The more people you get to sign
39:29
Speaker 5: up under you. And I think that they don't necessarily
39:33
Speaker 5: show how well that dynamic is at play here. They
39:36
Speaker 5: just kind of poke at like the outsides of it.
39:39
Speaker 5: The biggest hidden treasure here, which is impossible to understate,
39:43
Speaker 5: is just a fact that they get Marty Rothburn as
39:48
Speaker 5: like the co host of this documentary. Essentially he is
39:51
Speaker 5: their number one consultant. He's the guy that's actually training.
39:55
Speaker 5: When they hire the Tom Cruise look alike and they
39:58
Speaker 5: hire the David Misscavage, he's the one that's giving.
40:00
Speaker 6: All the direction notes everything.
40:02
Speaker 5: He shows them where to drive, here's where that building's at.
40:06
Speaker 5: Let me connect you with this other guy. Like without
40:08
Speaker 5: Mark Rathburn, there's no My Scientology movie here whatsoever. And
40:13
Speaker 5: it's such a it's such an interesting dynamic that he's
40:17
Speaker 5: not necessarily anti Scientology. He is just anti David Misscavage
40:21
Speaker 5: because of a personal beef that he has got developed
40:24
Speaker 5: and that he's showing Louis Thereaux, But the way that
40:27
Speaker 5: he's doing it, it's it is so like master of disconnecting,
40:33
Speaker 5: I guess your emotions, where it's like, yeah, can you
40:35
Speaker 5: believe what scientology is doing to these people? And then
40:39
Speaker 5: Louie's like, but you're the one that wrote this manual
40:42
Speaker 5: and you were doing this to these people too. He's like, oh,
40:45
Speaker 5: this isn't what this documentary is about. You're why are
40:47
Speaker 5: you talking about me? And Louie's just like yeah, but
40:49
Speaker 5: you're like, you're literally the one that created this formula
40:53
Speaker 5: and you're just pointing out how horrible the formula is.
40:56
Speaker 5: Anyone do it. But like you're the one that did it.
40:58
Speaker 5: You made this, and you're the one that was forcing
41:01
Speaker 5: people to go through this. And the way that that
41:04
Speaker 5: Marty gets angry, like now all of a sudden, he
41:06
Speaker 5: can't controls emotions. He's getting angry, he wants to punch people.
41:10
Speaker 5: He's like storming off constantly. It's such a wild car,
41:14
Speaker 5: like you never know what this mark, if this Marty
41:16
Speaker 5: guy is gonna have a problem with a scene or not.
41:19
Speaker 2: And they really comes to a bottleneck and exposes it
41:22
Speaker 2: at the end when they come and harass him and
41:26
Speaker 2: throw cameras in his face and they're like how's the
41:28
Speaker 2: foster care getting you paid? And this other like they're
41:32
Speaker 2: like are you making enough money off this? And he's
41:34
Speaker 2: so offended and in that moment where he's like I
41:37
Speaker 2: can't believe they'd bring my wife and my kid in it,
41:40
Speaker 2: And then Louis goes again and he's like, yeah, but
41:43
Speaker 2: wouldn't you have done something like this, Like wouldn't you
41:46
Speaker 2: And he's like so offended, like I can't believe you
41:49
Speaker 2: would even this is cool, like and he's just like
41:51
Speaker 2: cussing him out, like he's so pissed, and he's like,
41:54
Speaker 2: you need to apologize to me, like, and it's because
41:57
Speaker 2: I think he brought in the truth, but he's so
41:59
Speaker 2: easily to disconnect, like I would never do that, Like
42:02
Speaker 2: he was like, there's never a time I would bring
42:05
Speaker 2: or involve someone's kid and their wife, and I just
42:08
Speaker 2: and when he said that, you're just like he's lying
42:11
Speaker 2: to himself, but like he believes it, Like you know
42:14
Speaker 2: that he was like, yeah, your wife's back over there
42:17
Speaker 2: at scientology. I guess you're just gonna miss your wife
42:19
Speaker 2: and kid you don't care about. I'm sure they've viewsed
42:21
Speaker 2: a lot of that mental gymnastics on people, but it
42:24
Speaker 2: was just really cool to see him so angry that
42:28
Speaker 2: this is happening to him. And then someone went to like, yeah,
42:31
Speaker 2: but didn't you do that?
42:32
Speaker 5: Like well, and they're showing like those questions where they
42:37
Speaker 5: he gets swarmed at the airport and they're like are
42:39
Speaker 5: you making enough off you know, your childcare whatever, Like
42:42
Speaker 5: those aren't real questions. Those questions are the auditing process
42:46
Speaker 5: done out in public. They're they're literally there just to
42:49
Speaker 5: get an emotional reaction out of you. And the fact
42:52
Speaker 5: that he even though he's the master trainer that created
42:56
Speaker 5: this method to begin with and taught people how to
42:59
Speaker 5: do this method being used on him, and he can't
43:02
Speaker 5: even get over it. It is just so fascinating to
43:04
Speaker 5: see that whole life cycle happening. And this is the
43:08
Speaker 5: thing called it's called bull baiting, and it's called squirrel busting.
43:12
Speaker 5: And that's the premise is that you just if you
43:14
Speaker 5: ever go on YouTube, there's a rabbit hole of like
43:17
Speaker 5: scientology bull baiting videos.
43:19
Speaker 6: And there's like a common phrase where you're.
43:21
Speaker 5: Walking around and someone just comes up to you like, hey, Sean,
43:25
Speaker 5: still beating your wife, still beating your kids? Well, crimes?
43:27
Speaker 5: What crimes have you committed today? You criminal? Tell everybody?
43:30
Speaker 5: Are you afraid you're gonna go to jail for everyone
43:32
Speaker 5: finds out about all your crimes. Like to just keep
43:35
Speaker 5: constantly insinuating the worst things about you, and the second
43:39
Speaker 5: that you get emotional or like a reaction out of it.
43:41
Speaker 5: You know who else did this was the Westboro Baptist
43:44
Speaker 5: Church where they'd like show up at a soldier's funeral
43:49
Speaker 5: and they would like protest the funeral and like your
43:51
Speaker 5: son deserved to die, God hates your son or whatever
43:54
Speaker 5: because he's standing up for whatever.
43:56
Speaker 6: And it would be a way to get someone to
43:59
Speaker 6: throw a punch, and a lot.
44:00
Speaker 5: Of people don't know the Westboro Baptist, Like there's a
44:02
Speaker 5: lot of lawyers in that family. So you throw that
44:05
Speaker 5: punch and it's like everyone's getting like fed for the
44:07
Speaker 5: next three months, and now we got to figure out
44:09
Speaker 5: how to get the next punch thrown at us. So
44:11
Speaker 5: like to show how that is working through this bull
44:15
Speaker 5: baiting and this squirrel bust thing being used against the
44:19
Speaker 5: guy that wrote the handbook, I don't know if you're
44:22
Speaker 5: ever gonna find any documentary on the planet that shows
44:25
Speaker 5: that exact thing happening. So, like that's the biggest hidden
44:28
Speaker 5: shut I cannot overstate it, you know what I mean,
44:31
Speaker 5: It is like impossible to So they also have an
44:35
Speaker 5: interview with a guy named Jeff Hawkins who claims he
44:38
Speaker 5: was personally beat up by David miss Gavage at least
44:42
Speaker 5: five times, and they reenact him getting his ass beat
44:46
Speaker 5: by David mis Cabbage and anything in this documentary where
44:51
Speaker 5: they have these I think pulling like five or six
44:54
Speaker 5: guys to play the part of David's miss Cabbage and
44:57
Speaker 5: there's one dude, They're like, you nailed it, Like you
45:00
Speaker 5: just channeled the actual like, how do you do that?
45:03
Speaker 5: And he's like, I channel anger pretty easily, so apparently
45:07
Speaker 5: like he's just a very angry person. And they have
45:10
Speaker 5: a reenactment where it's called the Hole, and apparently it's
45:14
Speaker 5: like when you get high enough in the Administration of Scientology.
45:18
Speaker 5: I can't tell if you get sent here as a
45:20
Speaker 5: punishment or if it's part of training, or if it's
45:22
Speaker 5: a little bit of both. But he shows what happens
45:25
Speaker 5: is like sixty people get into like a big conference
45:28
Speaker 5: room and then David's miscalviage just runs in there and
45:31
Speaker 5: he's like, you get on the ground, crawl, look the carpet.
45:35
Speaker 5: He's like getting in people's faces, smashing glasses, smashing things
45:39
Speaker 5: by breaking things and I can't tell again, and he
45:43
Speaker 5: was like he'll point at one person and he's like,
45:45
Speaker 5: if anybody listens to what this idiot ever says again,
45:49
Speaker 5: you'll be labeled in sp and we're going to excommunicate you.
45:52
Speaker 5: And he walks out of the room and it's like, damn,
45:54
Speaker 5: is it true. But the guy that was like crawling
45:57
Speaker 5: like keeps crawling, keeps licking the carpet like everyone he's
46:01
Speaker 5: doing this stuff. And the guy Marty he's in the corner,
46:05
Speaker 5: He's like that was perfect. That was a commanding performance cut.
46:10
Speaker 5: Everyone can like shut off the cameras and go home
46:12
Speaker 5: like that is exactly how these training sessions go. And
46:16
Speaker 5: I mean, I believe him, even though he could be
46:19
Speaker 5: lying and he'd be hyper berlic I one hundred percent
46:21
Speaker 5: believe that that really was an example of a real
46:25
Speaker 5: thing that happened. And Marty even says like he's the
46:28
Speaker 5: one that wrote the script for that exact moment based
46:30
Speaker 5: on reality.
46:32
Speaker 2: Well I believe him too, because in the when they're
46:34
Speaker 2: going through the actors, he's visibly frustrated, like they don't
46:38
Speaker 2: get it, you can't be like this, And when they
46:41
Speaker 2: find the guy, he's like, oh wow, Like he he
46:43
Speaker 2: even seems at a point where he's like this is
46:45
Speaker 2: not gonna work right, You're not going to find someone
46:47
Speaker 2: that's able to do this. And so the one actor
46:49
Speaker 2: comes in, he's like you could tell he's.
46:51
Speaker 1: Like oh wow, like oh. He even gets a Marty
46:54
Speaker 1: at one point and shoves him up a wall like.
46:58
Speaker 5: He's strangling and he pushed them against the wall. He's
47:00
Speaker 5: like grabbing him by the neck, and Marty is like,
47:03
Speaker 5: you're nailing this This is perfect, But I will.
47:08
Speaker 2: Say like an overboard moment for me, but I would
47:10
Speaker 2: say more underwhelming. I won't say it's an overboard because
47:13
Speaker 2: they didn't really mention much about it, but they don't
47:15
Speaker 2: miss mention about uh David, miss Kavin's missing wife, right like.
47:20
Speaker 6: But or Shelley.
47:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that that could be a little played more.
47:25
Speaker 2: But again I think it's like looking at what the
47:28
Speaker 2: filmmaker is trying to convey, like you would think that
47:32
Speaker 2: could be mentioned, but maybe it doesn't fit in the
47:34
Speaker 2: film as what he's trying to tell the story of.
47:36
Speaker 5: I feel that the real message of this documentary is again,
47:39
Speaker 5: it's got nothing to do with here's what it's about,
47:42
Speaker 5: and you know, here's missing Shelley and all that. They
47:45
Speaker 5: don't get any of the conspiracy. It's more about, hey,
47:49
Speaker 5: I've heard that if you poke this wasp's nest, a
47:52
Speaker 5: whole bunch of wasps come out and they try and
47:54
Speaker 5: sting you. And that's kind of what Louis does in
47:57
Speaker 5: this and a lot of his other documentaries, where it's like, hey,
48:00
Speaker 5: watch me poke this wasp nest. You're not gonna learn
48:02
Speaker 5: about like how the wasps you know, came to that area,
48:06
Speaker 5: or like what their mating habits are. Any of that
48:09
Speaker 5: stuff is just like watch this idiot with a stick
48:12
Speaker 5: poke a wasp nest and get stung and he gets
48:15
Speaker 5: it on camera and he's like, you know, hey, wasps,
48:17
Speaker 5: why are you stinging me right now?
48:18
Speaker 6: That's kind of like the stick of it.
48:20
Speaker 5: So the underwhelming part is kind of they don't really
48:24
Speaker 5: give you if it's called my Scientology movie, you don't
48:27
Speaker 5: really learn anything from it. And in fact, there's a
48:30
Speaker 5: scene that's like highly cited for the worst reasons. Here
48:34
Speaker 5: at the very beginning of the documentary, he's going to
48:37
Speaker 5: record in some dude's like apartment about scientology and some
48:43
Speaker 5: girl like walks by and sees their filming. She sees
48:46
Speaker 5: a big, you know, expensive camera and a camera crew
48:48
Speaker 5: and they're in la so she's probably like, oh, I
48:51
Speaker 5: need to get on camera that I need to make
48:52
Speaker 5: this about me. So she's like banging on the window
48:55
Speaker 5: and they finally like let her in, and then their
48:58
Speaker 5: first things like you can't record me.
49:00
Speaker 6: It was just like why did you stop and knock
49:03
Speaker 6: on the window?
49:03
Speaker 5: And what ends up being a actress Paz de la Huerta,
49:08
Speaker 5: who was in Boardwalk Empire. She was in Enter the Void,
49:11
Speaker 5: which is actually a like generally good movie that she
49:14
Speaker 5: was good in, But she also is a little bit
49:17
Speaker 5: crazy maybe, as evidenced by this documentary. She was one
49:22
Speaker 5: of the first me too's against Harvey Weinstein. She also
49:25
Speaker 5: recently claimed that her parents put her into a Satanic
49:29
Speaker 5: abuse cult, like one of those SRA things. So like
49:32
Speaker 5: she is prime for the type of stuff that we
49:35
Speaker 5: get into here. But Louis is like, do you think
49:38
Speaker 5: Scientology sent her? And the guy's like nah, bro, like
49:41
Speaker 5: you're in la She wanted to be on camera, but
49:43
Speaker 5: it was funny how they decided to include that whole sequence,
49:47
Speaker 5: which wasn't just like a quick little blip. It was
49:49
Speaker 5: like a five to ten minute sequence just them including that,
49:53
Speaker 5: but not including any of the interesting stuff about how
49:56
Speaker 5: el Ron Hubbard and Alistair Crowley and Jack Parsons and
49:59
Speaker 5: like that is a huge weakness in this because if
50:01
Speaker 5: it's called my Scientology movie, it's not called like watch
50:05
Speaker 5: me poke a bear and get swung at, which is
50:07
Speaker 5: kind of.
50:08
Speaker 6: What this is about.
50:09
Speaker 5: And then one final hidden treasure I think is they
50:13
Speaker 5: show something called the tone forty commands, and this is
50:17
Speaker 5: something that I don't even remember seeing this originally, but
50:21
Speaker 5: it's like this new age superhuman, like here's how you
50:24
Speaker 5: can actually construct reality. And I feel that this is
50:27
Speaker 5: probably higher OT level stuff. But they are showing Louie
50:33
Speaker 5: how to make a ashtray levitate in the air. And
50:37
Speaker 5: the way that you start is that first you yell.
50:41
Speaker 5: He's got these four segments. So the reason they call
50:44
Speaker 5: it tone forty. And I don't know all this because
50:46
Speaker 5: they don't get into the descriptions of it, but like
50:48
Speaker 5: forty is almost like a volume level. So if I
50:50
Speaker 5: tell you to do tone forty, that means scream as
50:53
Speaker 5: loud as you're capable of screaming at the top of
50:55
Speaker 5: your lungs. And you're supposed to first command an object.
50:59
Speaker 5: So I got a glass here, but he's got an ashtray.
51:02
Speaker 5: So you scream at it stand up, and then you
51:05
Speaker 5: lift it up in the air as if it's standing now,
51:08
Speaker 5: and then you scream thank you, and then you scream
51:11
Speaker 5: sit down in that chair, and you put it back down,
51:13
Speaker 5: and then you go thank you, and you just keep
51:16
Speaker 5: doing that over and over again, and I guess you're
51:18
Speaker 5: training yourself to believe that you are telling reality to
51:22
Speaker 5: change around you, and if you do it long enough,
51:24
Speaker 5: reality will actually change around you. And it just felt
51:27
Speaker 5: like you get this weird like inside scoop training from
51:32
Speaker 5: the guy that has been through all this. And again,
51:34
Speaker 5: I don't think that Marty's lying that this is one
51:36
Speaker 5: of these training routines sink or swim My Scientology movie,
51:44
Speaker 5: Luis Threaux.
51:46
Speaker 2: This film does explore something different where it does show
51:49
Speaker 2: you like the attacks of the sps, and it gives
51:54
Speaker 2: you some lingo. It's like a beginner's I think, like
51:57
Speaker 2: guy to Scientology, like it kind of nudges you in
52:00
Speaker 2: there instead of just like throwing everything. There's a lot
52:03
Speaker 2: of stuff I would like to be discussed more, but
52:06
Speaker 2: maybe this is entry level, so I'm gonna give it
52:08
Speaker 2: a float.
52:09
Speaker 1: I think it's a good movie. I think people should
52:11
Speaker 1: check it out.
52:12
Speaker 2: It's not didn't give me everything I wanted, but I
52:15
Speaker 2: will say just the e meters and like the auditing
52:18
Speaker 2: that portion really sucked me in in some of the
52:20
Speaker 2: like how do you ascend and how the interactions, but
52:24
Speaker 2: I think that I wanted more, so maybe I'm being
52:27
Speaker 2: more critical, but I do think.
52:28
Speaker 1: People should watch it, so I give it a float.
52:30
Speaker 6: I don't think you're being critical. I will give it
52:32
Speaker 6: a saying.
52:32
Speaker 5: Actually, just because the name it pulls you in, like, oh,
52:36
Speaker 5: I'm going to learn about scientology here, And all you
52:40
Speaker 5: really do is you learn about these crazy tactics made
52:43
Speaker 5: by the guy that made those tactics, or at least
52:47
Speaker 5: enforce them and refine them for decades.
52:50
Speaker 6: And it's kind of.
52:51
Speaker 5: More about Marty, Like this is like my Marty documentary
52:55
Speaker 5: more so than my Scientology movie. So for that reason,
52:59
Speaker 5: you don't really learn earn anything about scientology other than
53:02
Speaker 5: some of these weird tactics, some of these insider tone
53:05
Speaker 5: forty commands of commanding reality. I think that it's worth watching.
53:10
Speaker 5: If you're even slightly interested in scientology. You will see
53:13
Speaker 5: things presented in this documentary that you will not see
53:16
Speaker 5: in any other documentary, even the best one where you
53:19
Speaker 5: get all the background info. They don't show you tone
53:22
Speaker 5: forty command training, and they don't show you Marty the
53:25
Speaker 5: guy breaking down when confronted with his hypocrisy. So it's
53:29
Speaker 5: one hundred percent worth watching. If you're into scientology, you're
53:32
Speaker 5: learning about it. But overall, I think that we will
53:35
Speaker 5: probably come across a much better scientology documentary in the future.
53:39
Speaker 6: So sync on this one.
53:42
Speaker 2: And you know, speaking of Crowley and Herbert put it?
53:47
Speaker 6: Oh, I mean man, what name l Ron Hubbard?
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