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Yeah, not cool, man, not cool. Anywho, today we're gonna be
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doing our Week 14 Buy Low Sell High Trade Targets episode.
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Let's start with Joshua's Bi Lo. I think do you want to go with
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this buy low since I'm right after with mine and I feel like
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he feel like he shopped him to you a little bit so maybe you
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have some relevant information or or opinions.
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Yes, I'll do it. OK, so his by low is a Roman
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Yosi who has been brutal since coming back from injury,
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averaging only 0.44 points over the past month.
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He should be around a point per game.
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That's what has been in historically for his career.
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His shots and blocks have been decent though. 2 point 92.9
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shots on 1.4 blocks which is decently promising.
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Players coming back from injury can take some time before they
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get back into their groove, and Yoshi has three points in the
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last three games, so the window to Bylo could be closing.
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The power play has been decent. Yoshi hasn't been showing up on
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the scoresheet because it keeps getting being like the third
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assist guy. So that would be helpful for
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plus minus, but irrelevant for other leagues because plus minus
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sucks anyway. But yeah, so this won't keep up.
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We expect them to be more on the assist than the third assist,
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which don't count for anything, of course.
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But yeah, so we expected him to turn things around and go back
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to the player he's been his whole career.
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Some good one for one trade targets.
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You got most cider, Shea, Theodore or Jacob chicken.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, I know Josh has been a frustrating
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Yoshi owner and and when Josh is frustrated, everybody knows it.
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So that's one thing everybody knows about to know about Josh.
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His wife knows that the most. I feel really bad for Eva
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because she she deals with a lot of stuff from from Josh's mental
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health that's tied to his fantasy fantasy hockey team.
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But yeah, Yoshi was probably a second round making most of your
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leagues. He's top three fantasy
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defenseman on a yearly basis. I mean, the only guys that
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you're consistently taking ahead of him are probably Makar.
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And then it's like a Quinn Hughes.
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I mean, this year Zach Werenski has been nuts, but usually it's
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right there, right? So I really love this pic by
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Josh. I mean his points could double
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realistically. I'm going for rest of season.
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The targets that Josh put I like a lot.
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I think I'd much rather give Shadow and Jacob chicken.
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I think both of those guys would be a crazy flip.
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I'd even do it in a package if you're able to get Yoshi Cider.
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I like cider a lot for his back categories, but the points
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upside with the OC is just insane.
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So I really like what Josh said here and completely agree.
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Yeah, another name I think you could honestly add there is
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maybe like a Neal Pionk. I mean, flip that piano is one
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of those guys that has a way like quote UN quote better
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production than his name value. I think with the name value is
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it would be I'd be shocked if anybody would be willing to take
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PNG for Roman Yosi. But also Yoshi has one of the
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best players schedules with Nashville.
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So you have to start looking at that as well when you're making
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these trades. If you can also give like a look
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Adam Fox for Yoshi in a package that I'd like a lot because
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you're flipping a bad Rangers playoff schedule for a better
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one with Nashville and you'll see.
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And I just like you'll see straight up better than Adam Fox
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as well. So just those were a couple of
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names to keep in mind, But I would be trying to buy Roman
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Georgia on the low right now and I'd be willing to flip a lot of
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those middling defensemen that maybe overperforming.
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Would you offer Lane Hudson for Roman Yosi?
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I don't think the owner
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does that. But listen, if he's a Habs fan,
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maybe. But Lynn Hudson, a package for
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Yoshi at this point, I would. Hudson has been nuts.
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He's been crazy. But I mean, Yoshi is just
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different level. He's a world star.
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He's in the Dulene, you know, not Quinn Hughes, I guess, but
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like Dolly and Bouchard conversation, I mean.
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It's just I mean rest of season for me right now it only take I
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take Macar Quinn Hughes accuracy and then it's Roman Yosi with
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Dolly in the same tier in my opinion anyways.
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Yeah, agreed. Yeah, it's a great buy low Josh.
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Let's move on to your as Kevin. All right, my body low is a
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player on the Ottawa Senators. It is Tim Stutzel.
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I mean Stutzel, listen, he's usually a point per game player,
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but over the last month he's only at .058 points per game.
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Over the last two weeks if you're looking, it's .04 points
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per game. So clearly really low compared
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to what is usual standard is in bangers league specifically,
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he's a great asset because he's the type of player that hovers
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around a double double. He'll get you like 2.5 shots,
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1.5 its ish, which is really valuable in a bangers league
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when you're contributing at this level of points.
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What's important to note with Stutzel is yeah, he's only at
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0.4 points per game over the last two weeks, 0.6 over the
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last month, but the power play production has still been really
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high. That's the only reason why he
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hasn't gone pointless in over the last two weeks.
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So that just goes to show that his 5V5 production is really
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tremendously regressed and he's due for the positive regression.
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His linemates are still close. You and Drake Batherson, which
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is some of the most talented players on the Ottawa Senators.
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He's poised to start heating up, especially with the timing of
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the schedule. Auto plays some of the most
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games in January completely and they have one of the best
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playoff schedules as well. So right now I'd be looking to
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buy low and also you can think of it as a great long term
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investment as well because Ottawa has a great playoff
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schedule. So it's really like a win win
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right now. I feel like the Stutzel owner,
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depending on your league, might be unwilling to part ways or
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really buy into the dip. But I think clearly, I mean,
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listen, if you look at the production over the last month
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and you're offering guy has been significantly better.
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It would be a no brainer to try and pull that off.
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Some names that I'm looking at, I would try to flip for if you
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have Clayton Keller, if you have White Johnston, even Mark Stone.
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I mean, these guys have all been crazy hot.
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So it can be really scary to try to offer A1 for one for Tim
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Suttle, who's been significantly less.
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But we have to look at it the rest of the season and you gotta
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make your call at this point. You have to have the conviction
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in your takes. Tim Switzer has a pointer game
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player. He's on one of the best power
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plays that's been clicking the whole season, one of the best
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playoff schedules. These are all things I'm looking
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at when trying to buy a player. You could even potentially flip
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Keller plus something for something.
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And you're getting the better end of the deal with Stutzel and
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maybe gonna upgrade somewhere else because the person views
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Keller better than usual right now.
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Same thing goes with White Johnson and Mark Stone.
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It was really just replaying the name game and trying to take
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advantage of a slumping player right now because I like subtle
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lot. It's a great buy low I think
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though if you wanted to offer even a little bit of a lower
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tier for targets you would maybe pull it off like.
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Obviously you want to go as low as possible, but I feel like
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still has the pedigree that you can't just give a guy that's
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been hot off waivers to try to pull that off.
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You gotta give someone that also has some weight to them.
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For sure, for sure. I was thinking like, I'm just
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trying to think, would I rather these guys that you mentioned or
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Marsha so? I was going to say Marsha was
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another name. Where yeah, we put Marshall so
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in there for Stutzel. Exactly.
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I've tried to get that deal done and in my specific Liga hasn't
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worked out. But maybe your your league is
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different and that's a very strong possibility.
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Other names I think you can consider.
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Matt Boldy would be a good name. I mean, we've spoken as boldly
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as a target for a long time and he's a great player.
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But I think Sutil is just overall a bit more complete, a
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little bit more reliable and has a little bit more of a of a
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ceiling. But yeah, I think boldly, I
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think Dylan, Gunther, I think Matt.
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Barzal, Vilardi. Vilardi.
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If you could do that, that I wasn't even considering that as
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an option, but those are the type of guys that if you're able
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to flip those for Tim Stutzel, I'd be all over that.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm definitely, I'm
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saying I'd rather Stitzel over all these guys for sure.
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I just think that it's been pathetic recently unfortunately.
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And I think you could even lower for Sizzle.
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But you're just going to keep in mind that when you're doing this
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by low and sell highs, you're not going to win in the
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immediate future, right? Like studio is in a slum.
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When you buy him, he might not turn it around the game.
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You get him on your team, right? And you're selling.
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You're selling a player that's going to be better, but what
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you're doing is you're you're preparing your team for rest of
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season and in the coming weeks and that's really when it's
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gonna pay dividends. Yeah, well said.
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So we're going to move on to my buy low and I have to tell
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everybody that I am such a good friend for putting this as my
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bylaw. I appreciate you my man.
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Yeah, I want everybody to know this because Kevin owns this
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goaltender. In our main league, it is Elias
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Sorokin. Yeah, it's been a rough go if
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you're a Sorokin owner, however nonetheless Kevin is in second
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place in our main league, so you know he is somehow prevailed
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the. Good stuff for the praise.
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But yeah, basically Trogans a goodbye low because he's a
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talent that is, you know, as a talent, he's one of the best
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players in the league. I haven't been high on the
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Islanders all year, and I don't think they're gonna make the
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playoffs, but I do think that they're going to keep giving him
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so much playing time that you know he's going to get the
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saves. Also, there's really nowhere for
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him to go but up this year. It's been so bad.
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So yeah, it can't get worse. And I think that you can buy
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them at a pretty reasonable price.
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And even though the winds may be hard to come by, I suspect the
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same percentage is going to positively regress, at least
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modestly. So yeah, there are some guys
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that have been on a hot streak and I think you consider you
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could consider flipping forced like them for Sorokin.
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I think it could reasonably get a deal done if you offer guys
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like Jordan Bennington, Elia Samsonov, perhaps Sam Montalbo.
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We mentioned on a previous episode that we think Jacob
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Dobes may get some more starts moving forward.
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So if that's the case, that's of course going to eat into Monty's
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playing time. And yeah, I mean, at that point,
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I I'd rather Sorokin over Montalbo.
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And yeah, maybe Joey Decor 2. He's been pretty good all year,
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you know, more consistent than, let's say, Samson, Alber
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Bennington has been. But overall, it's still rather
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Sorokin moving forward than all these four guys.
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Yeah, I mean, listen, I have a lot of thoughts as a Sorokin
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owner. I like some of the names you
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mentioned a lot. I think some of the other ones
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would be harder to to to pull off.
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But my main thing is the Islanders are one of the worst
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teams in the league, unfortunately.
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They should not be this bad, but they are.
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It's just the winds are hard to come by in four fantasy.
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That's like a huge part of of why of fantasy goalie,
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successful or not. I, I do think the Islanders have
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to get better, right, because they can't get worse.
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And Sorokin is, is your prototypical like every year
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he's putting up a 907908 type of thing, right?
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And right now he's hovering right in the eight 90s.
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So he's due for some positive regression.
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And also if you're watching the games, he is insane.
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He's a great goalie. It's just his team is really
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letting him down. And that's why when it's not his
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issue, it's the team's issue. You know, the teams get to
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figure it out at some point and then that's going to help his
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production get back to where it is.
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And he's been getting literally all the starts, which in fantasy
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is all a skill in itself, right? Being able to play that many
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quantity of games or Llama has been an IR for weeks and they
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don't trust the backup unless it's a back-to-back.
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So Soroka is literally playing every game right now, which is
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valuable for your fantasy team. Just the wins are tough, but
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you're getting so much volume. You may volume your weight into
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some wins, but rest of season, I think he's a good buy low if
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you're if you're a goalie needy team and just need some
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reliability there. But you have to know that
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there's gonna be some growing pains in the near future, But
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this is one of those things that maybe it pays off eight season
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or in the coming the coming weeks when the owners maybe
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fired their coach or or turn it around a little bit.
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I like the targets you mentioned a lot.
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I think Benintendi Decord would get it done potentially
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depending on your league, depending on your league
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settings, while your league values for goalies.
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Mountable would be tough because I feel like he's just in the
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same boat as Sorokin just made slightly less starts.
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Now Samsonov is a tricky because that to me is a different type
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of archetype of goalie where Samsung was not playing three
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games a week like Sorokin, but he's playing one game a week and
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he's winning it with a great save percentage.
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So it could suit certain teams if you're in category leagues
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specifically. So yeah, you have different
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targets depending on your league.
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They're great options. Yeah, and I've gotten many
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questions. Well, you know, we've gotten
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many questions about Sorokin, you know, should we drop in
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whatever. And and I've answered the same
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thing that he's a below. So I think it was worth worth
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mentioning because. Absolutely.
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Like, and because he's a bi lo and if you're listening to this
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podcast, that doesn't mean that you should conversely sell him
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low. I would hold him.
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You cancel him right now because he's his value is basically at
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its lowest. I mean, it's been lower.
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He's gained some value recently, but it's tough to sell right now
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because he's getting outperformed by a lot of waiver
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wire options. But he has a name value and the
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pedigree of being somebody that's really good for fantasy.
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So I wouldn't really not drop, but it's it's maybe I'd consider
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benching if that's the case. Yeah, exactly.
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Like if you have a like a busy Saturday night, for instance,
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and you know it's between him and another goalie, I'd probably
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start the other goalie for now, but keep him on your roster.
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Don't drop him or anything like that.
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He's just too talented. This on a good team.
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This is one of the best goalies in the league.
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So it'll turn around at least slightly.
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So just be patient with it and that's all you can do.
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Let's move on to Josh's cell high.
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Should I go for it? Alright, Josh is very passionate
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about this player. If you listen to our new episode
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this week, the the ad drop hold, you'll maybe know who Josh is
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passionate about. But his cell hide this week is
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none other than Devon Taves. If you feel like there's a pit
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in my stomach when I'm speaking, there is because I'm playing
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against the Vantages this week where he magically has like 80%
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of his goals on the year in the last four games against my
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fantasy team, which is lovely. But yeah, he's on a hot streak
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with seven points in his last four games.
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I mean, these last four games make his average look pretty
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solid over the last or the last month with 0.92 points per game.
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Hovering over a point per game player over the last month just
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because of four games is nuts. First of all, he's 80% owned in
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Yahoo and has a lot of name value.
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So you might be able to have some people in your league think
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that this is not a fluke and may actually put some stock into
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Taves quote UN quote finally waking up.
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But let's be clear, Tapes is not worth rostering in almost any
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league while he's on a hot streak like this.
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He definitely is. So you want to hold him, but the
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second the streak ends, he's going to lose all his value,
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which could be in the next game or two, right?
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So it's the time to sell right now before the window closes.
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He's a classic example of a great in real life defenseman,
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but terrible for fantasy. You really should have been
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holding this long, but if you if you did, you're given a window
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right now where you can sell at a maybe all time high value this
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season. And those were all of Josh's
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words verbatim. So if you're upset, take it up
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with him. But once again, I agree because
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I'm not a Devon Teams fan for fantasy Jake.
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What do you think? Oh wait, before I hand it off to
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Jakey, Josh did offer some good sell high, some good I guess
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trade targets for selling Devon tapes high.
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He says you can target players like Vince Dunn, Jake Sanderson,
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and even maybe Charlie McAvoy who's been a little bit better
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as of late. I like all the names Josh
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mentioned. I take all of them easy ahead of
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Devonte's rest of season. I mean, those guys are just a
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way better situations with way better deployment, way better
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category coverage. So I think it's a no brainer and
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it's a time to strike right now. Now, Jake, what do you think?
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Yeah. So like Devante is essentially
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is essentially the personification of that Michael
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Jordan meme. Like I took that personally so.
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The one literally, I'm so upset because I said some bad things
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about him last week and he came back with a vengeance because
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clearly I played against him this week in fantasy and he's
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ruined me. So yeah, that's what I get.
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Yeah, You know, I was going to say that the really the only
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good thing to come out of this is that at least we know that
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Devante is listening to this podcast because you clearly.
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There's no other reason or that we have magical powers and
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anybody that we speak negatively on is gonna take it personally
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when we play against them in fantasy.
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So. No, it's usually the opposite.
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I honestly, we have a great record in our in our streamers
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episode and usually our our bylaws and up turning things
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around and our sell highs end up being horrible.
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But yeah, unfortunately with the the drop, I mean right after he
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was like, Nah, guys, let me show you.
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What do volunteers has really made of?
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But yeah, it's not going to last.
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I'd certainly rather all these three guys that were mentioned.
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It's like we've spent so much time talking about how bad
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Davantes is that it almost feels like on like impossible to to
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get, you know, these guys for him.
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But based on performance overall in the season and how they've
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been performing lately, it's, it's not that unrealistic.
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So I would definitely send a trade offer, perhaps a package
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of of sorts, but. Yeah, I think, I think for
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McAvoy, maybe in a packet, but for Vince Dunn or Sanderson, I
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think maybe even A1 for one. Like he's on an 80% of leagues.
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Like clearly he has something of value to him.
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I think you can easily trade him.
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He might be in waivers on some of your more serious leagues
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because he doesn't really offer much for fantasy besides these
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last like five games of extreme production.
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But yeah. Yeah, and like, you know, a bit
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of a spoiler alert, you know, for, you know, what's to come.
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But, you know, Devonte is is not like some, you know, elite,
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elite talent. He had like one really solid
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year, but you know, whatever. And at this point, you know,
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cross position. But how does it make sense that
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Devante is rostered in 82% of leagues and Patrick Haines
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rostered in 54? I just like that.
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Just like the defenseman position, but.
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Still, it doesn't make sense to me.
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But anyway, whatever, whatever. Anyway, move on to yours and
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we'll we'll maybe get to the Patrick Kane later.
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Well, spoiler alert OHT well OK, alright well my cell hide this
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week is Macklin celebrity of the SJO San Jose Sharks.
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I mean over the last month he's averaging one point per game and
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his shots have been nuts. They've been over three shots a
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game. He's starting to come back down
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to earth if you look at the last like 2 weeks ish.
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So I think now is a really good window where you can maybe sell
21:29
him on the production that the crazy production that you had
21:31
earlier in the month. I mean, listen, he was arguably
21:35
the most exciting hockey player to watch in the NHL for a
21:40
stretch of like two to three weeks where it felt like every
21:42
day you had a new highlight and 1st overall pick, right?
21:46
So he has a huge name value, crazy pedigree.
21:50
So I think a lot of people are really enticed and excited by
21:52
this. They want on their team.
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Ju felt used to come to this where you were willing to trade
21:57
Larkin for him. But I think right now is the
22:01
time to cash in on the name and and level up to a different
22:05
level of player. But like I said, these last two
22:08
weeks is starting to come back down to earth.
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So your window is closing. So I'll give you some options
22:12
for players that maybe you can sell them on the higher name
22:15
value. But if the window closed and you
22:17
can't really get that level, I still take a tear up and I'll
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offer some other names. So on the high end, if you can
22:23
get Sebastian Aho, Jake Guentzel, Roman Yosi, I think
22:26
Romanoski maybe is right now the most attainable because he's
22:29
he's a defenseman That's also on our bylaw.
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But yeah, those two other guys insane value for able to get
22:35
them. I mean, I know I'm shooting
22:37
high, it might be difficult, but if you can pull that off in a
22:40
negotiation, maybe a 2 for two package.
22:42
Crazy if we're aiming a little bit lower, I think these guys
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are a Tier 2 below but Tage Thompson, Elias Pettersson is
22:51
currently hurt, which would be a great opportunity to buy or Mark
22:54
Shifley. I think all of those three guys
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I would take the rest of the season over.
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Maclin, Celebri if you're if you're playoffs start in week.
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I think it's 22. The San Jose Sharks also have a
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2 game week, so I would try to flip them for a team that has a
23:10
better playoff schedule. Yeah, there's a lot of things to
23:13
take into account. His shots are great, his points
23:15
are great, he's a great fantasy asset, but he's not as good as
23:18
his production was and on the San Jose Sharks are gonna have
23:21
some consistency built in. I would look to flip if you can
23:25
for one of those things I listed.
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Yeah, so I I actually mentioned celebrity on the Week 9 Cell
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High episode for Robert Thomas, Philip Forsberg or Vincent
23:35
Trocheck and. I'd be happy with all of those
23:38
right now. What, you'd be happy with most
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of those right now? Yeah, exactly.
23:42
And I would still like I'm saying though that yours right
23:45
now, like you could now aim higher for celebrity than them.
23:48
So like if you had taken my advice, you know, 5 weeks ago,
23:52
done the Thomas Forsberg or Trocheck swap, you'd still be
23:55
happy with them over celebrity. But celebrity just kept
23:58
performing. And at this stage of the game,
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you can aim even higher, such as, you know, Aho Gensel, Yoshi.
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I do think, I mean, you know, Tage Tage could work.
24:09
Honestly, all these guys could work.
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So I'm saying you can aim higher.
24:12
So as Kevin mentioned, the windows closing, why don't you
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just try and offer for these guys, the ones that Kevin
24:18
mentioned and then negotiated down for the ones that were
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mentioned in week 9. And at that stage, I mean, you
24:25
know, sooner you offer it, the better because the playoff
24:28
schedule is super important. That's what we need to think
24:30
about now. There's no participation trophy.
24:32
You, you win the league if you win the, well, the playoffs in
24:35
most cases. And yeah, this the at this
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point, what I think is, um, he's been so good.
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The Sharks have been good. Well, good.
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No, they've been inconsistent, but they're exciting to watch
24:46
mainly because of him. But we say it all the time,
24:49
rookies equals inconsistency. That's what you're gonna get for
24:52
celebrating rest of season. You could get a well known, you
24:57
know, name like all the ones that Kevin mentioned.
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And you should definitely aim for that at this point because
25:02
the window isn't going to stay around forever.
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Yep, exactly. I guess we'll wrap it up with
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your spoiled pick already knows what it is and probably are
25:11
tuning out right now because. Of it.
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So my cell high is Alexander Ovechkin not Yeah, it's what
25:24
it's Patrick Kane. I just had to mention that early
25:27
because like it just doesn't make sense that Davantes is
25:30
higher is roster so much higher than Patrick Kane and like
25:33
Jonathan Huberdeau, two former like I mean superstars.
25:36
But I mean, it's different. But yeah, there's no reason why
25:40
tape should be that high. In 82% compared to like who does
25:44
40 and and Jane's 50. Like what the heck, like these
25:47
are these are like some of the league's best players.
25:49
And Huberdeau was myself high last year last year last week.
25:53
Patrick Kane is myself high this week.
25:55
And the reason is because since McClelland has been appointed
25:58
head coach of the Red Wings, the whole team has been on fire five
26:01
wins in their last six games since he took over.
26:04
I saw something on Instagram actually which was a picture of
26:07
McClellan yelling at the team saying play if the six stars
26:12
hockey. So like F ****6 times hockey.
26:17
So I cleverly commented, Oh nice, he's encouraging the Red
26:21
Wings to play fantasy hockey. Which low?
26:26
Key. If he that would be such a good
26:31
burn. Like wow you guys suck so much.
26:33
Go play fantasy hockey instead of real hockey.
26:35
Like, you might as well listen to Banger Manager while you're
26:37
at it. Honestly.
26:39
But anyway, he did not meet fantasy.
26:41
He meant the F word, which we can't say.
26:43
But all this to say, Kane, the idea of it is that, you know,
26:50
when there's a new coach, there's always a bump in
26:52
productivity. And of course, this translates
26:55
well for like the skilled players like Patrick Kane.
26:58
I also don't think he's washed per se, but I do think that the
27:02
that this is just like a hot streak and it's going to come to
27:05
an end. Over the past two weeks, he's
27:07
averaged 1.33 points per game, 2.8 three shots, and a
27:12
completely unsustainable 0.83 power play points per game.
27:17
That's nuts. Since the 2122 campaign, Kane
27:22
has failed to be a point per game player.
27:24
And I think that while, you know, the little streak may have
27:27
helped your team for fantasy, I would certainly, certainly
27:31
consider pivoting away from him. He has the name value, the, you
27:35
know, the name pedigree, the clear offensive history of being
27:39
an elite but like an elite talent.
27:41
But I suspect that once teams figure out the way that the
27:45
Wings system operates under McClellan and particularly how
27:49
to shut Kane and Debrincat down, you're gonna wish you sold him
27:53
before it was too late. So I think that these are
27:56
really, really reasonable trade targets.
27:58
I would trade Patrick Kane away for Ryan Nugent, Hopkins, Matt
28:03
Barzel a little. You're aiming a little low here,
28:07
but possibly Michael Grandland, who's been horrible as of late.
28:11
So what do you think? I mean, I like a lot of the
28:17
names you listed. I think Patrick Kane is a is a
28:19
really good sell high right now just given the fact that Detroit
28:23
is we, like we mentioned previously, one of the hottest
28:27
power plays at the moment. Yeah, I think there's a lot of
28:31
players that I would take Patrick Kane, that I would take
28:33
ahead of Patrick Kane the rest of season.
28:35
The names that you listed are great targets.
28:39
Yeah, I completely agree. I would prefer out of this, this
28:42
group, Barzal and Ryan Hopkins the most.
28:44
Barzelay is a little bit of a hot streak, might be a little
28:47
bit harder to attain, but I'd still try maybe in a package as
28:52
well. Like I think Patrick Kane used
28:54
to be looked at as a throw in at this point, but now he's way
28:57
more than just throwing. He's like his own individual
28:59
fantasy asset. If you can get like a I mean let
29:04
me know. Like if you can flip them for
29:08
Dmitri Voronkov. What do you think rest of season
29:11
if Rankov keeps that line? 1P1 he's been extremely hot.
29:15
Right now he's arguably a Sahin himself, but the rest of the
29:17
season, like who do you trust more?
29:20
I'd actually probably rather Voronkov, but as you said,
29:24
they've both been so hot so that's why I'm not sure if it's
29:26
like a. Good.
29:27
You're aiming for like a middle for like a middle level guy.
29:30
Like I think I would take Buchnevich.
29:33
I would maybe take Will Cooley for in a bangers league.
29:36
Um, I think Logan Cooley, you're looking at cross position.
29:42
Like he's at that level of kind of player where he's not the
29:44
best player in fantasy team, but you're getting a season long
29:47
hold where Patrick Kane might fall out of form and not give
29:51
you that season long hold type of production anymore.
29:53
Yeah, I completely agree. I think you know, like Timo
29:59
Myers, I mean, it's Paul. Maybe I was gonna say Matthew
30:02
Nars, but after this like 5 game performance, you know, it's it's
30:05
tough but but the. Chris Kreider I think would be a
30:07
great name. Yes, that would be a great name.
30:09
Chris Carter is a great idea. Idea behind this cell is that
30:15
Patrick Kane was like a first round fantasy pick for years.
30:20
This is like an elite, elite talent who's going to go into
30:23
the Hall of Fame for sure. It's just that he's clearly past
30:27
his prime. He's already 36 years old.
30:30
And I don't really think that the Wings are going to be like
30:34
this. It's not that they won't be an
30:36
OK team moving forward. I think they're way better than
30:38
like the Islanders, for instance.
30:40
It's just that offensively I, I don't really see them like as
30:45
like a, an offensively amazing team and that's what Kane has
30:50
been good at throughout his career.
30:51
I just don't think that this is like the turning point for them.
30:55
I think it's gonna slow down immensely.
30:57
And at that point, you're holding the bag.
30:59
So if you could flip them, flip them now.
31:01
It's a classic new Coach Bum. Time to capitalize on it.
31:04
That's pretty much it. Well said.
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Wow, that was that. Felt really sad.
31:35
I kind of felt like it was like woo period, you know?
31:38
Yeah, there. There was no ambiguity in the
31:40
woo. Geez.