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Ep. 822: Rut Fresh Radio - Late September Whitetail Grind · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Wired to Hunt's rut Fresh Radio, bringing you
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  Speaker 1: the latest reports from the Whitetail Woods, presented by First Light,
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  Speaker 1: First Light Go farther, stay longer, and now your hosts
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  Speaker 1: Case Smith and Tyler Jones.
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  Speaker 2: The acorns are falling around the country. Food sources seem
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  Speaker 2: to be the key in mid to late September. But
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  Speaker 2: are you on the right one. This is rut Fresh.
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  Speaker 3: Let's go.
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  Speaker 4: What's going on? Everyone? This is ret Fresh Radio, brought
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  Speaker 4: to you by First Light Year. I'm ca C. Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Tyler Jones is here with me as well. And it's fall, y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Some of y'all know. I might not know that, but
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  Speaker 2: it's a pretty common terminology used around here because sept
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  Speaker 2: Turn twenty second officially sent us into.
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  Speaker 4: The fall season. If do with that, I didn't know that, yep.
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  Speaker 2: And so fall you all for those open north, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so fall you all would be How you deconjunct?
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  Speaker 4: That thing?
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  Speaker 1: Is that what it is?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not a conjunction. What's the call when you
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  Speaker 2: put a comment something sounds conjunction?
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  Speaker 3: Is it?
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  Speaker 4: I thought conjunctions were ambu or or I'm just wondering
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  Speaker 4: what their function is.
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  Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on in the deer woods
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  Speaker 2: right now, and one of the big things is that
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  Speaker 2: deer seasons are opening up in a lot of places.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's there's quite a few spots around this
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  Speaker 2: country that it just has around the first of October
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  Speaker 2: that's the opening day of archery season, and that's a
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  Speaker 2: lot of fun for us, and that's where we live too.
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  Speaker 4: But there's more and more seasons open up around the country,
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  Speaker 4: and you go from.
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  Speaker 2: Having to travel eight to ten hours to find an
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  Speaker 2: open season to being able to travel three to four.
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  Speaker 2: So it puts a lot of deer hunting in a
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  Speaker 2: lot of grasp for a lot of people, which makes
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  Speaker 2: it even more intriguing to figure out what's going on
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  Speaker 2: around the count tree. And I can tell you this
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  Speaker 2: food seems to be the thing. A lot of people
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  Speaker 2: this week remarked about food sources and how they're hunting
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  Speaker 2: around that. You know, I think people want to focus
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  Speaker 2: on sign a lot, and sometimes sign is hard to
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  Speaker 2: interpret early season, it's hard to even find it, huh, Tyler.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, it is one thing de you're not
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  Speaker 5: traveling that far to get to food sources, usually when
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  Speaker 5: it's hot and early, so they're not laying down a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of sign on trails, they're not passing by a
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  Speaker 5: bunch of trees to rub on. They don't really care
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  Speaker 5: to rub a whole lot because they're testosterone is still
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  Speaker 5: pretty low. They will hit licking branches here and there,
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  Speaker 5: but you won't be able to see the scrapes still
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  Speaker 5: in a lot of cases because they don't actually do
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  Speaker 5: the palling and peeing part of that whole deal a
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  Speaker 5: lot of times. And in fact, a few years ago
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  Speaker 5: case found on some public in Illinois found a you know,
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  Speaker 5: annually used you know, perennial scrape and it was the
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  Speaker 5: it was still open underneath because it had been hit
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  Speaker 5: so hard the year before, but it wasn't really being
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  Speaker 5: used underneath. It was just being licked on. And we
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  Speaker 5: put a truck camera on it and got some video
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  Speaker 5: of deer and nothing really scraped until October. So there's
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  Speaker 5: just they're just not laying down much sign right now.
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  Speaker 2: So so finding food is a big deal, and it
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  Speaker 2: is the fall And I don't know if it's why
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  Speaker 2: it's called that or not, but things start falling from
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  Speaker 2: the trees, both leaves and more importantly for us deer hunters,
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  Speaker 2: acorns or acorns or is there another way that people
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  Speaker 2: say it too auckrons or something.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, but I hope not on onions. That's a
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  Speaker 4: big thing for a lot of popes that right now.
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  Speaker 2: And I know around here we were eyes out doing
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  Speaker 2: a little TSI on my property yesterday and.
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  Speaker 5: Is there like, uh, it's not crime scene investigation, but
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  Speaker 5: it's like.
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  Speaker 4: Timber scene investigation. Okay, So.
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  Speaker 2: There was already some red oak acorns falling. Now they're
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  Speaker 2: the wormy acrens, so it's like a false fall, but
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  Speaker 2: it's still potentially a food source if the deer are
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  Speaker 2: in rough shape. Thankfully, around here we've had just enough
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  Speaker 2: rain to increase a little a little bit of some
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  Speaker 2: of herbaceous growth. In fact, Greg was with me and
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  Speaker 2: he found a beauty berry that had a lot of
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  Speaker 2: brows on it. Really uh huh, you know you like
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  Speaker 2: to hate on your beauty bearry.
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  Speaker 5: I hate they eat they're such they're actually really pretty
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  Speaker 5: this time of year they are, and they feed the
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  Speaker 5: birds well, so they've got uses. But as far as
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  Speaker 5: deer deer go, I just don't. I don't see them
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  Speaker 5: coming into use a whole lot.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my dear, the uh but my deer a weird,
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  Speaker 2: so you guess some weird Yeah, but I think that's
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  Speaker 2: kind of the big thing if especially if you're hunting
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  Speaker 2: public land, because often times, even if you're map scouting
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  Speaker 2: and looking at a large piece of public and you're
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  Speaker 2: looking at like a bed to feed this time of year,
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people can look at the same map
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  Speaker 2: and figure out, Okay, that's a nag field. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: set up near that and try to kill those deer
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  Speaker 2: if you can go in and interpret.
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  Speaker 4: Sign if you can find it.
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  Speaker 2: But even more so where food is in the trees,
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  Speaker 2: in the thickets, then you have a chance to actually
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  Speaker 2: see a deer in daylight, which is hard this time
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  Speaker 2: of year, right, Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, daylight deer, they can be hard this time of year. Wow,
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  Speaker 4: what a nice rhyme. I'm a little Limerick today, man.
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  Speaker 5: I got the rhymes, I got the alliteration and all
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  Speaker 5: the stuff going on. Yeah, they can be tough, man.
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  Speaker 5: I don't really particularly love this time of year. If
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  Speaker 5: the weather's kind of stagnant, but coming up in the
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  Speaker 5: next week or so, things will change. But I know,
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  Speaker 5: you know a lot of times too, depends on where
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  Speaker 5: you're at in the country. Because for us here where
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  Speaker 5: we're at, it's still like we got a cold front
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  Speaker 5: and I walked outside a second ago and it's still
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  Speaker 5: just hot.
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  Speaker 4: So it is, man.
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  Speaker 2: There is some some weather systems we've around the country,
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  Speaker 2: So we're gonna ask a few folks about that, depending
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  Speaker 2: on you know, what's going on out there. We have
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  Speaker 2: a hurricane that's brewing in the Gulf that might kind
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  Speaker 2: of effect.
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  Speaker 4: How dear moving around what better?
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  Speaker 2: Uh, But we're all still looking forward to better days.
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  Speaker 2: So I would say just as a general thought, I
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  Speaker 2: wasn't get too excited and burn PTO just yet, right, Tyler.
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  Speaker 4: That's right, man, Yeah, that's right. Well, who we got
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  Speaker 4: this week?
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  Speaker 2: We've got Jeff Danker in Kansas of Buck Ventures. We've
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  Speaker 2: got Jeff Altoff in Wisconsin. He killed a giant buck there.
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  Speaker 2: He's of Love the Grind TV, Michael Pitt's Real Tree
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  Speaker 2: down there in Georgia hunting them Georgia bucks. And then
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  Speaker 2: Rob Mendoza of Tethered he's been hunting in Missouri. So
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  Speaker 2: let's see what they got to say, all.
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  Speaker 5: Right, I've got Jeff Danker from Buck Ventures on the
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  Speaker 5: phone right now. Jeff has had some success out in Kansas. Jeff,
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  Speaker 5: how's it going, Man.
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  Speaker 4: Oh man, it's good.
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  Speaker 3: It's good.
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  Speaker 4: We're out here right now.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, idea is, we've been waiting on this
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  Speaker 6: part of the year, this season, all year, and it's
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  Speaker 6: finally here, and you know, it's like you're already behind.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I hear that, dude. We got a rain down
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  Speaker 5: here in Texas today that we didn't know was coming.
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  Speaker 5: Otherwise I ought to have had some seed on the ground,
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  Speaker 5: but it surprised us, and here we go, we're behind.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I mean, I know exactly.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, we were praying for rain and literally, guys, we
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  Speaker 6: got two and a half inches yesterday and we hadn't
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  Speaker 6: really had rain since early July out here. So we
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  Speaker 6: did get seed in the ground for our fault plots,
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  Speaker 6: which you know, we usually try to have them in
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  Speaker 6: Labor Day, but this year just closer to October than
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  Speaker 6: that night September first.
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  Speaker 4: Yep, yep, I hear you on that.
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  Speaker 5: Well, so you shot a door recently and you it
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  Speaker 5: is pretty unique experience for you talk about that real week.
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  Speaker 6: Well, if you when you see the footage, you'll see
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  Speaker 6: that I got more excited than a lot of big
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  Speaker 6: bucks I've shot. As the first dough I ever shot
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  Speaker 6: and filmed myself, and being fifty two, having to wear
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  Speaker 6: reader glasses and that kind of stuff, it was pretty
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  Speaker 6: I felt pretty proud of myself.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet man, that's cool. That's cool. Well, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 5: What was she doing when when you shore it? Was
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  Speaker 5: she coming to fool?
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  Speaker 6: Well, kind of what we're setting up on some of
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  Speaker 6: her farms is just to manage a lot of get
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  Speaker 6: some doze off property. And in yea, we were. She
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  Speaker 6: was actually on a cut head feed field. It's kind
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  Speaker 6: of how I designed this deal, where you come in
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  Speaker 6: and just you design it and then cut the head
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  Speaker 6: feed and leave some of it put a blind in.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, I was just eating on grain and coming
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  Speaker 6: in and just a big mature or dough and that's
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  Speaker 6: what I was looking for.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, that's cool, man.
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  Speaker 2: So is that going to be kind of the strategy
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  Speaker 2: that you employ until the rut gets here?
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  Speaker 4: Or does think do things kind of shift once you
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  Speaker 4: start getting those frosts? Well, I mean I ain't.
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  Speaker 6: I'm the guy that I'm just steadily moving cameras looking
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  Speaker 6: for deer, observing this and that, and I do like
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  Speaker 6: going ahead and getting some dose done right now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's really become more of my targeting.
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  Speaker 6: Actually, one farm this year in particular, called the Wooly
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  Speaker 6: Grass just to get you know, I want to shoot
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  Speaker 6: twenty five dose off of it. I can shoot five
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  Speaker 6: and then I'm going to have some buddies do it
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  Speaker 6: as well. But you know, I just think that is
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  Speaker 6: a strategy that we're really trying to play and keep
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  Speaker 6: that buck to dough ratio at least around two and
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  Speaker 6: a half three to one.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you mentioned the drought earlier, and it sounds
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  Speaker 2: like you're really working on your herd dynamics. Is the
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  Speaker 2: herd pretty healthy out there? Are there any disease is
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  Speaker 2: shoes that you're dealing with?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it actually is, man, I'm not dealt with a lot.
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  Speaker 7: I hear a lot about it.
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  Speaker 6: We all do the HD blue tongue whatever. And we
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  Speaker 6: found a deer dead here recently at water we've called
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  Speaker 6: the Wildlife Department that's had a deformed hoof, watching a
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  Speaker 6: couple of other deer that are really sick on camera
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  Speaker 6: or the Wildlife Department knows about them, and basically what
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  Speaker 6: they try to do is just give the deer every
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  Speaker 6: chance it can because you know, at times, I'm like,
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  Speaker 6: you know, talking wildlife farms, like, look, do we need
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  Speaker 6: to go on and shoot this deer suffering? And they said, well,
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  Speaker 6: there's a chance these deer pull out of it. So
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  Speaker 6: that's what we're trying to give these deer a fighting chance,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, and just hoping that it isn't wide widespread.
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  Speaker 6: I just don't know how severe it is, but it
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  Speaker 6: definitely is something that keeps me not sleeping good right now.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I bet man, Well that's unfortunate. I know, with
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  Speaker 5: that in your mind, it's tough to look forward a
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  Speaker 5: little bit sometimes. But you know, in the next week
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  Speaker 5: or so, do you you kind of foresee any changing
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  Speaker 5: conditions or anything that might bring some new deer around
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  Speaker 5: or give more increased deer movement during daylight.
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  Speaker 6: Well, so I'm a big I.
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  Speaker 4: Believe in change.
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  Speaker 6: I like, I don't you know, people say I just
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  Speaker 6: want cold weather. Well I don't think this cold weather
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  Speaker 6: does it. We've had a little dropping temperature and we
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  Speaker 6: are getting new bucks. But I like it up and
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  Speaker 6: down and so that's what I've been looking for, guys,
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  Speaker 6: and I ain't getting it.
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  Speaker 4: We got the change right now, and we got a
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  Speaker 4: cooler temperature.
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  Speaker 6: But if you really watch a barmeter right now, it's
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  Speaker 6: not doing a lot. It's just holding when you get
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  Speaker 6: past thirty. And so my prediction is if it will
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  Speaker 6: get here. I mean, I'm looking ahead the October first,
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  Speaker 6: and looks like we're gonna Bromer's gonna get up a
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  Speaker 6: little bit and a little more higher pressure, and again
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  Speaker 6: we will start to see new bucks.
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  Speaker 3: More and more.
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  Speaker 6: But I am so trying to look, you know, every day,
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  Speaker 6: just hitting that fifteen day forecast and trying to see
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  Speaker 6: if that barometer is gonna move, and it just as
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  Speaker 6: a guys, it's going to be you know, it's like
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  Speaker 6: twenty nine point seven eight and just holding right there.
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  Speaker 3: I hear you.
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  Speaker 5: Well, if you had to put a number on buck
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  Speaker 5: movement in the next week, we'll scale of one to ten.
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  Speaker 5: What would you say, You.
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  Speaker 4: Know, that's a loaded question. I'll say this.
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  Speaker 6: You know a farm that someone's out there, guys, that
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  Speaker 6: isn't putting pressure on it, and you know it's in
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  Speaker 6: a sense just not being messed with I think you're
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  Speaker 6: gonna have some decent buck movement. But just because we
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  Speaker 6: do have this change, and you know, it was a
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  Speaker 6: hundred and something degrees five six days ago. You know
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  Speaker 6: today is a high of sixty six, and it's gonna
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  Speaker 6: get back in the eighties. So I do predict that
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  Speaker 6: there will be some good buck movement now again, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you get on that farm that's been messed with too
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  Speaker 6: much and it's just gonna be like anything, and you
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  Speaker 6: won't have that buck movement. But I think if someone's
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  Speaker 6: doing it right out there, they can look forward to
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  Speaker 6: the next week and have some pretty good hunt.
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  Speaker 4: All right. So scale of one to ten, what do
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  Speaker 4: you think.
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  Speaker 6: Scale of one to ten, I'm gonna probably still be
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  Speaker 6: in the six and a half to seven something like
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  Speaker 6: that on buck movements.
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  Speaker 4: I like it. I like it cool.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 5: Well, I hope that the Lord's blessing is with you
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  Speaker 5: this year, man, and I appreciate you coming on and
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  Speaker 5: giving us support.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff, I appreciate you guys as always. This is Jeff
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  Speaker 4: Altough with Love the Grind TV.
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  Speaker 2: Jeff, you've been hunting in Wisconsin, You're headed at Kansas.
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  Speaker 4: Life is good into your season, man, how are you.
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  Speaker 8: I'm good, I mean, and I tell you what, it's
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  Speaker 8: a little bit, you know, still.
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  Speaker 7: Riding the high from my Wisconsin hunting has been celebrating
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  Speaker 7: for quite a few.
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  Speaker 8: Days and then a big Kansas buck decided to show up.
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  Speaker 8: So I'm riding that high from the upper Midwest down
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  Speaker 8: to the plains Midwest right now and hopes of trying
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  Speaker 8: to do it again.
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  Speaker 4: That's cool.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, you killed a hammer there in Wisconsin, so
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  Speaker 2: congratulations on that. And it sounds like to me, at
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  Speaker 2: least just from what you just said, that that trail
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  Speaker 2: cameras can and probably are a big part of your
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  Speaker 2: strategy on that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Huh.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're a big part of our strategy, you know,
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  Speaker 8: just as much when to hunt, but also you know
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  Speaker 8: when not to hunt as well. We you know, we
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  Speaker 8: don't have a ton of really big pieces that we
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  Speaker 8: have or hunt, so staying out as you know, just
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  Speaker 8: as as much, just as important as you.
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  Speaker 7: Know when to go in.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know it's from the pictures of that
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  Speaker 2: big dear that it looked like there were some food
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  Speaker 2: plot stuff incorporated. Have you all been working hard with
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  Speaker 2: you know, adding food to properties and is that a
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  Speaker 2: big part of your strategy.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's kind of our m O, right as the
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  Speaker 8: preparation that leads into the hunt.
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  Speaker 7: That way, when an opportunity.
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  Speaker 8: Like this last week presents itself, you know, we're in
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  Speaker 8: a better position to capitalize that specific plot before we
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  Speaker 8: get into the actual hunt details and how that came about.
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  Speaker 8: You know, just about a half acre you know, big
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  Speaker 8: sexy greens brassica plot and then we've got about an
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  Speaker 8: acre of corn that we actually use as a screen
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  Speaker 8: to be able to get in and out. Obviously it's
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  Speaker 8: a food source too, but you know we plant it
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  Speaker 8: as really an ability to just get in from where
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  Speaker 8: we have.
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  Speaker 7: To part you know.
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  Speaker 5: Sure, so and that buck came into that to that plot,
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  Speaker 5: I guess, and you were able to shoot him there
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  Speaker 5: or were you hunting off the plot.
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  Speaker 7: Some Well, so it's interesting.
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  Speaker 8: So that specific day, uh, my camera guy Connor uh
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  Speaker 8: and myself we had we had plans to hunt our
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  Speaker 8: Minnesota ground that evening and about six thirty in the
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  Speaker 8: in the morning, our cameras got tripped and I got
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  Speaker 8: pictures of this book exiting the plot on one of
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  Speaker 8: our kind of perimeter cameras, and I'm like, well, that's
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  Speaker 8: kind of interesting. You know, I know the farm and
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  Speaker 8: deer tendancies, and you know, I definitely know that deer.
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  Speaker 8: And I'm like, that's interesting the way he's walking at
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  Speaker 8: that time, and I just kind of sparked my curiosity.
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  Speaker 7: I was, I was a little bit slow to the.
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  Speaker 8: Trigger, but a few minutes went by, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 8: I'm gonna pull up my you know on X maps.
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  Speaker 8: So I pull them up and I'm like, well, sure
• 15:59
  Speaker 8: as be. This deer is headed into just like a
• 16:02
  Speaker 8: tiny little ditch or a drainage, and you know, he's
• 16:07
  Speaker 8: edit he's heading into the tip of it. And if
• 16:10
  Speaker 8: you think about like a finger for example, he's heading
• 16:14
  Speaker 8: into like the fingernail where if you were to go
• 16:17
  Speaker 8: any further north, it'd be an open, wide, open egg field.
• 16:22
  Speaker 8: And if you would have headed any further west off
• 16:24
  Speaker 8: the finger, it would have been a road. And I'm like,
• 16:28
  Speaker 8: that time of the morning and that caliber deer and
• 16:32
  Speaker 8: how mature he is, I'm like, I think there's a
• 16:35
  Speaker 8: pretty good chance that he vetted up in that drainage ditch,
• 16:38
  Speaker 8: which isn't very big, and especially where he exited that plot,
• 16:42
  Speaker 8: there's not a lot of real estate there. So I
• 16:46
  Speaker 8: actually called, if you know, I did what any other
• 16:48
  Speaker 8: deer hunter does and calls a few buddies in their
• 16:50
  Speaker 8: circle to turn to chat game plans and get opinions.
• 16:54
  Speaker 8: And you know, we came to the conclusion that, hey,
• 16:58
  Speaker 8: there's a pretty good chance this deer just exited this
• 17:01
  Speaker 8: food plot.
• 17:02
  Speaker 7: Now keep in mind, this camera is faced to get.
• 17:05
  Speaker 8: Deer feeding, you know, head on into the food plot.
• 17:09
  Speaker 8: So to get a deer exiting the food plot on
• 17:11
  Speaker 8: this camera, that's not why that camera was set up.
• 17:13
  Speaker 8: Does that kind of makes sense? So to get the
• 17:17
  Speaker 8: deer exiting the food plot was kind of ironic.
• 17:19
  Speaker 7: But you know, we came to the conclusion.
• 17:22
  Speaker 8: That, hey, this deer is probably betted in this tiny
• 17:25
  Speaker 8: little drainage less than one hundred yards from where.
• 17:28
  Speaker 7: He exited the plot.
• 17:30
  Speaker 8: We've got storms rolling in that afternoon, and chances are
• 17:34
  Speaker 8: if he gets up on his feet, he's going to
• 17:37
  Speaker 8: walk exactly, he's going to go into.
• 17:39
  Speaker 7: That plot exactly how he exited it.
• 17:42
  Speaker 8: And we happened to have a ground blind up in
• 17:45
  Speaker 8: the corn ground level about twenty five yard where he
• 17:49
  Speaker 8: exited that plot. The only issue was we couldn't walk
• 17:52
  Speaker 8: into the plot like we normally do because where we
• 17:55
  Speaker 8: park and the road is right there. I mean, he
• 17:57
  Speaker 8: betted he would have seen us coming in long before
• 18:01
  Speaker 8: we would have ever got to the blind right, and
• 18:03
  Speaker 8: just maturity rear, they know where to bet, how to bed,
• 18:05
  Speaker 8: how to position themselves with the wind.
• 18:08
  Speaker 7: All of the things would have went wrong.
• 18:09
  Speaker 8: So just having that one picture and looking at the
• 18:12
  Speaker 8: maps allowed us to kind of formulate a secondary access plan.
• 18:17
  Speaker 8: So again looked at our maps and we went, oh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 8: I don't know, about a mile plus all the way
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: around in a wide open eggfield and came around the
• 18:30
  Speaker 8: other side just to be able to try to get
• 18:34
  Speaker 8: into that blind without that year knowing. So we did that,
• 18:38
  Speaker 8: got in clean, and yeh, thunderstorms started rolling in pretty heavy,
• 18:44
  Speaker 8: and we almost actually left because we've seen some lightning and.
• 18:48
  Speaker 7: It was rumblin pretty good.
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: But managed to stick it out and at about six o'clock.
• 18:55
  Speaker 7: Now keep in mind.
• 18:55
  Speaker 8: Dark there is probably about seven twenty ishes eagles shooting
• 19:00
  Speaker 8: or you know, end a camera laid so plenty in time.
• 19:03
  Speaker 7: About six o'clock I happened to peek out the.
• 19:06
  Speaker 8: Blind kind of down in that corner, and I've seen
• 19:09
  Speaker 8: him staring right at us.
• 19:10
  Speaker 7: Turns out he was just staring at the blind, not
• 19:12
  Speaker 7: at us.
• 19:12
  Speaker 8: But I actually thought we were busted because I happened
• 19:15
  Speaker 8: to peek my head out the blind at the wrong time,
• 19:18
  Speaker 8: you know, and so it's kind of freeze, and I
• 19:21
  Speaker 8: whispered Connor, and I'm like, oh shoot, I think we're busted,
• 19:24
  Speaker 8: like total amateur mood, picking my head out the blind,
• 19:27
  Speaker 8: like put in all this work, all this game plan,
• 19:30
  Speaker 8: and it's over. Well, miraculously, he puts his head down
• 19:34
  Speaker 8: and starts feeding, and I'm like, okay, we're in the chips. Well,
• 19:38
  Speaker 8: I get my ball, get everything situated.
• 19:40
  Speaker 7: He's at that time.
• 19:41
  Speaker 8: Twenty five yards away, ends up feeding twenty five yards
• 19:46
  Speaker 8: from us, quartering to us for fifteen minutes, just crushing
• 19:51
  Speaker 8: Brassica's putting on a show.
• 19:55
  Speaker 7: Super cool.
• 19:55
  Speaker 8: And this is all on film, by the way, we
• 19:57
  Speaker 8: got multiple camera angles. He's right there and just just
• 20:01
  Speaker 8: putting on an absolute clinic and it was fun to watch.
• 20:05
  Speaker 8: And I'm like, hey, whether or not I even get
• 20:07
  Speaker 8: a shot off at this deer because I thought he
• 20:09
  Speaker 8: was gonna feed right into the blind. I'm like, whether
• 20:11
  Speaker 8: or not I get a shot off at this deer?
• 20:13
  Speaker 7: This is cool? This is a win.
• 20:14
  Speaker 8: This is a successful hunting itself. Right, Well, he turns
• 20:19
  Speaker 8: broadside for a split second. I what I thought, capitalized
• 20:24
  Speaker 8: on that drew without him knowing.
• 20:27
  Speaker 7: But the second I drew, he faced quartering.
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: Back to me, and I'm like, I can't take this shot,
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: not at any deer, let alone a deer that caliber.
• 20:36
  Speaker 8: I was at full draw for a little over three
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: minutes and I'm pulling eighty five pounds, so it was
• 20:44
  Speaker 8: not very comfortable.
• 20:46
  Speaker 7: I think I maybe said a few swear.
• 20:48
  Speaker 8: Words to the camera, like I can't hold it anymore,
• 20:50
  Speaker 8: you know, expletive expletive.
• 20:53
  Speaker 7: Actually ended up letting.
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: My boat down and having to redraw and hold it again.
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: And finally he turned just enough where I had about
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: a six inch gap behind his shoulder where I could
• 21:07
  Speaker 8: sneak it into his lungs, and he's twenty five yards
• 21:09
  Speaker 8: away ground level feeding, and I felt really comfortable taking
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: that shot. So I took that shot, and he probably
• 21:18
  Speaker 8: went all seventy or eighty yards and ironically enough, ended
• 21:22
  Speaker 8: up dying in what I feel is the bet that
• 21:25
  Speaker 8: he was in.
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: Really, man, how about that? That's incredible, dude. Do you
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: think in the next week, do you think that if
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you were to hunt in Wisconsin there again, that those
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: Brasicas would still be the thing to do, or would
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: things change in the next week or so.
• 21:40
  Speaker 8: Honestly, we've been doing this so we run all sorts
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: of plots. We run our you know, Ryan Old's plots,
• 21:47
  Speaker 8: we run brassicas, we run radishes, we run our.
• 21:50
  Speaker 7: Corn or soybeans.
• 21:51
  Speaker 8: And what I'll tell you is it's based on the weather,
• 21:54
  Speaker 8: what's around, what you know, farm fields have to offer.
• 21:58
  Speaker 8: That particular spot, soybeans in the area had already yellowed,
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: so they had kind of transitioned to a green food
• 22:08
  Speaker 8: source because it's either you know, natural brows, acorns, et cetera,
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: or it's you know, finding something green or a hayfield.
• 22:16
  Speaker 7: Right, it's pretty warm out that day.
• 22:18
  Speaker 8: So that particular spot, I think that they're gonna be
• 22:21
  Speaker 8: on Brassica's for a little bit longer, until it gets
• 22:25
  Speaker 8: even colder, and then they're not gonna leave Brasca's, but
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: they're gonna have their choice between you know, soybean pods
• 22:31
  Speaker 8: and Brassica's.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: So with the the concept of maybe a waning moon
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: involved with that, and in still you know, the beans
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: being yellow over the next week, do you do you
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: feel like buck movement is going to be good?
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: And then how would you rate it on a scale
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: of one to ten.
• 22:53
  Speaker 7: So, honestly, buck movement.
• 22:57
  Speaker 8: You know, we've got access to quite a few properties,
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: We're on a lot of cameras, We've planned a lot
• 23:01
  Speaker 8: of plots, so we've got a pretty good sample size.
• 23:04
  Speaker 7: And I would say overall deer movement.
• 23:08
  Speaker 8: Was really strong in the days leading up in the
• 23:11
  Speaker 8: days following my hunt, overall mature buck movement, I would
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: say I didn't I didn't notice a material difference.
• 23:19
  Speaker 7: I think the.
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: Hand that we were delts was just how lucky we
• 23:25
  Speaker 8: were to be able to see where he betted.
• 23:28
  Speaker 7: You know, take a look.
• 23:29
  Speaker 8: At our topography maps, no dear's tendencies know that, hey,
• 23:34
  Speaker 8: that's a mature buck. He's probably not going to go
• 23:35
  Speaker 8: another half mile at first light in the morning in September.
• 23:39
  Speaker 8: So I think I think where he chose to bed
• 23:44
  Speaker 8: is kind of what gave us the advantage of that hunt.
• 23:49
  Speaker 8: But you know, I don't have a lot of other
• 23:52
  Speaker 8: mature bucks, especially that caliber, that are just daylighting right
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: now we're leading up to the hunt, or we're following
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: the hunt, I think I think we got to get
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: to that first true October cold front or you know,
• 24:06
  Speaker 8: get a little closer to win bucks are really really
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: hitting scrapes to see those five and six year old bucks,
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: you know, consistently daylighting, right.
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: So on a scale of one to team, what do
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: you think the next week.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Will be, I'm gonna put that at about a five
• 24:23
  Speaker 8: or a six for the next week.
• 24:24
  Speaker 7: And that's all things considered.
• 24:26
  Speaker 8: That's that's weather, that's moon phase, that's you know, overall
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: deer inventory for what I'm looking at, how they're operating,
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: what's happening in egg fields around us, stuff like that.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's still pretty good hunting, especially for
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: septimber Man. So I think that that's that sounds like
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: a great report dude, to really appreciate it, and I
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: hope you find some success out there in Kansas as well.
• 24:51
  Speaker 7: Thank your fingers across.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: And if I happen to get an arrow in the
• 24:55
  Speaker 8: deer that I'm hunting tonight, I have a feeling We're
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: going to be doing this again.
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: Awesome, dude.
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I've got Michael Pitts. He's been doing some hunting in
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Georgia with the Real Tree Crew. How you doing, man?
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Doing good? How about y'all?
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: We're doing awesome.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: It's cool off a little bit around here, which makes
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: us all think about deer hunting.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Now. I know you're a kind of.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: More east of where we're at there in Georgia, But
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: have y'all been experiencing some of this cool front?
• 25:36
  Speaker 9: Yeah, we've got a cool front actually opening We came
• 25:40
  Speaker 9: in on the fourteenth and opening week was pretty cool,
• 25:44
  Speaker 9: but we've heated back up again and then we got
• 25:48
  Speaker 9: a hurricane coming through. Should be here really towards the
• 25:52
  Speaker 9: end of the Thursday, and temperatures are dropping with it.
• 25:54
  Speaker 9: It looks like temperatures are going to kind of stay
• 25:58
  Speaker 9: low from then to own. Hopefully we'll be out of
• 26:00
  Speaker 9: these heat waves. But it was like ninety three ninety
• 26:04
  Speaker 9: four yesterdays, ninety one today of a high, So we're
• 26:08
  Speaker 9: back in that heat spell. But hopefully it's not gonna
• 26:11
  Speaker 9: last much longer. We'll get that cool weather in here.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: I bet you you know, at least throughout your life,
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: you've had some years where hurricanes definitely kind of affect
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: deer season.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: How do deer react after them? Big storm events like that.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: You know, I've never paid a whole lot of attention
• 26:27
  Speaker 9: to it because they are kind of few and far between.
• 26:30
  Speaker 9: But you know, typically in bed bad weather, a lot
• 26:34
  Speaker 9: of these deer will kind of hunk her down and
• 26:35
  Speaker 9: ride it out. But on the front side and back
• 26:39
  Speaker 9: side of it, it's almost like the deer can sense,
• 26:42
  Speaker 9: you know, bad weather or whatever, and they get on
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: their feet. So lots of times before storm can be
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: some really good good hunting because it's almost like they
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: try to stock up to weather the storm outs.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: So on the front side can be pretty good pits
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: of the acorns falling.
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: Yet they're starting right now and that's starting to create
• 27:04
  Speaker 9: a transition. You know, around us it's legal debate, so
• 27:11
  Speaker 9: you know a lot of people run corn piles or
• 27:13
  Speaker 9: protein feed or whatnot around us. And what you'll see
• 27:18
  Speaker 9: during this transition phases, they'll start pullingto these oak bottoms
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: and these acrens and all and actually leaving the other
• 27:25
  Speaker 9: food sources. So we're getting a lot of them starting
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: to drop right now. Squirrels are cutting them down pretty good,
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: and they're starting to drop on their own a little
• 27:34
  Speaker 9: bit right now. So we're about to see a transition
• 27:38
  Speaker 9: for sure as far as the deer movement goes, because
• 27:40
  Speaker 9: they'll be pulling to those acres. That's one of their
• 27:44
  Speaker 9: favorite food sources.
• 27:45
  Speaker 7: In my opinion.
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: Sure, do you prefer white oaks or red oaks?
• 27:52
  Speaker 9: White around us tends to be the ticket. It's like
• 27:57
  Speaker 9: a dessert to them. So I'm always looking for for sure.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: Are the bucks split up from their bachelor groups or
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: are they still running together.
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: They're still running together a little bit right now. Of course,
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: about three weeks ago we still had deer and velvet,
• 28:14
  Speaker 9: so you know they're still bachelorred up and not seeing
• 28:19
  Speaker 9: a whole I'm seeing some scrapes, but I think they're
• 28:24
  Speaker 9: more it's not a rut activity scrape. It's more of
• 28:29
  Speaker 9: a communication scrape, I believe. And you're seeing some trees
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: rubbed just from getting the velvet off. There's really no
• 28:36
  Speaker 9: sign of rut activity right now because we're kind of
• 28:39
  Speaker 9: on that pattern with the Midwest where it's the first
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: week in Novemberville, so everything's kind of still bachelorred up
• 28:48
  Speaker 9: and just mainly hammer and seed right now.
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: That is, how are you just in your hunts? According
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: those acrens and stuff.
• 28:54
  Speaker 9: You're definitely gonna have to pull to the hardwoods to
• 28:57
  Speaker 9: get into them.
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: And it's a good isn't a bad thing.
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: If you've got a lot of acrons on the ground,
• 29:03
  Speaker 9: it can work against you a little bit because they
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: just kind of get out there and meander and those
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: oak bottoms and they don't follow a really consistent trail.
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: And I've always said in the past, you know, the
• 29:16
  Speaker 9: first two weeks the season are crucial because after those
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: first two weeks, if you don't have a buck on
• 29:21
  Speaker 9: the ground, lots of times just the rut before you
• 29:24
  Speaker 9: see them again, because once they figure out deer seasons
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: in they'll start, you know, going a little bit more nocturnal.
• 29:33
  Speaker 9: We call it the October lull around us based on
• 29:37
  Speaker 9: you know, when our rut is and all. So if
• 29:40
  Speaker 9: you don't get them there in those first two weeks,
• 29:42
  Speaker 9: lots of times it's late October first week in November
• 29:44
  Speaker 9: before you see those mature bucks back out there in daylight.
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: So based off the weather and they can just start
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: to drop and that transition that's happening. What do you
• 29:54
  Speaker 5: think buck movement will be like in the next week
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: or two. On a scale of one to ten.
• 29:59
  Speaker 9: I'm say buck movement next week is gonna be on
• 30:03
  Speaker 9: the scale of about a six, okay, just because they
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: know seasons in and they're gonna go nocturnal for a
• 30:11
  Speaker 9: little while. They'll be feeding a lot in these oak bottoms,
• 30:15
  Speaker 9: but a lot of it's gonna be done at night,
• 30:17
  Speaker 9: and they kind of go into that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 30:21
  Speaker 9: I know we're not in October yet, but that October
• 30:25
  Speaker 9: lowl will start in late September.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: Let's just say that I got you. I got you.
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: Amazing, man.
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: The hunters hit the woods and them there definitely low
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: it up, don't they.
• 30:35
  Speaker 9: They figure it out real quick what's going on, and
• 30:38
  Speaker 9: they'll start first pushing more nocturnal.
• 30:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 4: Cool. So you appreciate the report, man.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: It sounds like you're you're honed in on them, and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I know that you'll find a couple of biggings for
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: seasons over.
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: So thanks so much.
• 30:50
  Speaker 7: Man.
• 30:50
  Speaker 9: Well, I've already got one in the bag.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that or did you kill that, dear?
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I killed it in Harris County, George. How about that? Man?
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Look at you? Yep.
• 30:59
  Speaker 9: So I've only got one more tag left in here
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: here in Georgia, so probably gonna save it towards the rut.
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I hear you, fellow.
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: This is Rob Mendoza with Tethered. He's been hunting down
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: in Missouri. Rob, what's up, bro?
• 31:16
  Speaker 7: Not much?
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: What's going on?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: Hey, dude?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Just you know, actually having fomo because I haven't hunted
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: white tail deer yet this year and all these people
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: are getting to go to all these cool states like
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Missouri and go hunting deer and I'm just living vicariously.
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: Man. How's Missouri?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 31:32
  Speaker 11: Missouri is always a good time.
• 31:34
  Speaker 10: Deer in the truck or no deer this time unfortunately
• 31:37
  Speaker 10: no deer, but for my first six for the season.
• 31:40
  Speaker 11: It was just nice to be out in those woods.
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah. So tell me, are you hunting a lot of
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: agriculture right now?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Or is the acron's already falling? Or kind of what's
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: what's the play?
• 31:52
  Speaker 10: So the spot that I was hunting in Missouri is
• 31:54
  Speaker 10: a farm, but it's not an ag farm. It's got
• 31:57
  Speaker 10: some hayfields. But for the most part this time year,
• 32:00
  Speaker 10: what I'm really keyed in on is the acorns dropping.
• 32:03
  Speaker 10: And it was nice because a lot of them dropped
• 32:05
  Speaker 10: last year, so they were really isolated this year.
• 32:09
  Speaker 5: What kind of acorns are you key on on this
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: farm in particular, are white oaks this time of year
• 32:16
  Speaker 5: and then later in the year.
• 32:17
  Speaker 10: You know, and they're looking for that late season food
• 32:20
  Speaker 10: source and just kind of picking clean the red.
• 32:21
  Speaker 11: Oaks, but this year mostly just focused on white.
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Do those hayfields attract dear? They have stuff in there
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: that deer will feed in they.
• 32:30
  Speaker 10: I mean, the deer will go out there and feed,
• 32:32
  Speaker 10: but it's not typically you're not going to get a
• 32:34
  Speaker 10: mature butt going out into the hayfields, not in the
• 32:37
  Speaker 10: area I'm hunting around that time, because there's a lot
• 32:39
  Speaker 10: of pressure from neighboring farms.
• 32:41
  Speaker 11: So they typically like the stage up in the woods.
• 32:44
  Speaker 11: And definitely had a little bit different activity.
• 32:47
  Speaker 10: Going on last week than I have had in years past.
• 32:50
  Speaker 5: So what how do you how do you pick the
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: right oak tree? We get this question a lot.
• 32:57
  Speaker 10: Well, I went out there early season to kind of
• 32:59
  Speaker 10: see which trees were going to be dropping. You can
• 33:03
  Speaker 10: kind of tell by how the leaves are sitting, and
• 33:06
  Speaker 10: they just look the limbs look a bit weighted, more
• 33:09
  Speaker 10: weighted down. And then I just go out early morning
• 33:12
  Speaker 10: and I listen. I had a nice breeze kicking off
• 33:15
  Speaker 10: the first day I was there, so I just took
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: a little walk around the property towards areas. Listen, and
• 33:20
  Speaker 10: if I heard stuff dropping, I knew that was gonna
• 33:22
  Speaker 10: be a spot I was going to key on, key
• 33:24
  Speaker 10: in on later in the week.
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  Speaker 4: That's pretty cool.
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  Speaker 2: I've never heard anybody say that, but it makes a
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: lot of sense, and it might be one of the
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: hottest tips we've had on here so far.
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: So way to go.
• 33:34
  Speaker 11: Yeah, call me hot tip Mendoza.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Really, that's cool.
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: So it sounds like you have some history on this property.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: How much does like historical data play into your moves
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: early season?
• 33:48
  Speaker 10: So for early season, I don't have much historical data
• 33:51
  Speaker 10: going on in that area, and I only just started
• 33:54
  Speaker 10: running cameras last year. Before I was always kind of
• 33:57
  Speaker 10: just mobile hunting on public land and maybe throw a
• 34:00
  Speaker 10: camera off while I was in that area for that hunt.
• 34:04
  Speaker 11: But this year I came into this.
• 34:06
  Speaker 10: Property and I set up a handful of cameras early on,
• 34:11
  Speaker 10: and my tactic was a.
• 34:12
  Speaker 11: Lot different than I thought. I thought I was just going.
• 34:14
  Speaker 10: To go for the evening hunts for the most part,
• 34:16
  Speaker 10: but what I noticed is there was a lot more
• 34:19
  Speaker 10: midday activity, even on days when it was ninety degrees out,
• 34:23
  Speaker 10: So that's when I put the majority of my focus
• 34:26
  Speaker 10: was being out there just after when I thought they were.
• 34:30
  Speaker 11: Going to bed, avoiding those betting.
• 34:32
  Speaker 10: Areas, but then getting in between the feed tree and
• 34:35
  Speaker 10: where their betting areas were as long as the wind
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: was right. And it didn't work out every single day
• 34:40
  Speaker 10: as far as see and deer. You know, you can't
• 34:42
  Speaker 10: control the wind, unfortunately, but I was consistently getting bucks
• 34:46
  Speaker 10: hitting this one particular spot anywhere from noon until three
• 34:51
  Speaker 10: o'clock in the afternoon, and also focusing on wind shifts.
• 34:56
  Speaker 10: I had a handful of days where the wind shift
• 34:59
  Speaker 10: in midday, so setting up on that off wind and
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: just hoping to catch them in transition. I did see
• 35:07
  Speaker 10: some immature box, some two three year olds, but not
• 35:10
  Speaker 10: the one that I was.
• 35:11
  Speaker 11: Really key on getting after.
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: So, Robot, you call yourself a morning person.
• 35:17
  Speaker 11: As far as hunting goes, just in life, hmmm, yeah,
• 35:22
  Speaker 11: I got two kids under three years old.
• 35:24
  Speaker 10: Man, I'm awake every minute of the day kind of person.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: Good, Okay. So I've heard some people in the past
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: emphasize arriving later in the morning, and sometimes that correlates
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: with people who like to sleep late. And I wanted
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: to just test your honesty a little bit on the
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: later morning thing. But it's sincere, so you'd be up.
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: But it's it's there is really a an emphasis on
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: being there for the midday movement, which is cool, and
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I've seen the same thing sometimes, especially it seems like
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: this time of year the deer are very much on
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: that like five feed and bed instances throughout the day,
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you know, so you see that like the two or
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: three daylight movements. And I don't know, man, I don't
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: hardly ever try to capitalize on that midday thing too much,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: but I think it's interesting that you saw like Bucks
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: doing that while you were there.
• 36:18
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I was pretty surprised by it too, And I
• 36:21
  Speaker 10: don't know if it was just something that was out
• 36:24
  Speaker 10: of the ordinary for this time of year, or if
• 36:27
  Speaker 10: that says how they behaved because I've never ran cameras before,
• 36:30
  Speaker 10: so I was never really up to date on what
• 36:32
  Speaker 10: those Bucks were doing midday on that property. So I'd
• 36:36
  Speaker 10: be interested to test that theory out over here in
• 36:38
  Speaker 10: New York a little bit this season.
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: Would you change the way that you hunted if you
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: were back in Missouri this week.
• 36:47
  Speaker 11: Yes, I would. I would one hope that I had
• 36:53
  Speaker 11: a different wind.
• 36:54
  Speaker 10: The wind was definitely working against me this season or
• 36:57
  Speaker 10: this season, this early season, but I think that I
• 37:01
  Speaker 10: would focus a little bit more on the midday hunt.
• 37:05
  Speaker 11: Then I gave it credit for this year.
• 37:07
  Speaker 10: I saw that there was something to it, but I
• 37:10
  Speaker 10: wasn't sure if it was just an anomaly. But even
• 37:13
  Speaker 10: since then, my cameras have still been going off midday.
• 37:16
  Speaker 10: I might try to pick a different feed tree.
• 37:19
  Speaker 11: I got a little bit.
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: Married to the spot that I was at, So I've
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: been told that happens when you're running cameras.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can for sure I got you.
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: So in the next week, if you had to rate
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: book movement on a scale of one to ten, what
• 37:33
  Speaker 5: would you think.
• 37:35
  Speaker 11: Oh, I put it in a solid six to seven.
• 37:38
  Speaker 10: At my spot in southern Missouri, at least if anybody's
• 37:42
  Speaker 10: in that area. The heat honestly doesn't seem to be
• 37:46
  Speaker 10: messing with them all too much.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: It's like almost the South, you know what I mean.
• 37:52
  Speaker 11: It's almost the South. I think that's what they call
• 37:54
  Speaker 11: it in the in the books.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: Anyway. Yeah, that's right.
• 37:57
  Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate the report, man, and I hope that
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: you get them next time. You get down there in Missouri,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: me too.
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: Good luck everybody, man.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: We actually have some fairly optimistic hunters on our hands
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: around here. Yeah, I think that the scoring system is
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: always skewed, if I can be honest, the Midwest six,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: it is Midwest sixty, but it's almost like country wide
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: six at this point in time.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: Country must be country wide, you know what I'm saying.
• 38:20
  Speaker 4: Come on, So no cover route intended.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: I just don't feel as if it's a six compared
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: to a November six. Maybe it's a six for the
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: last week of September, you know what I mean. We
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: should be more clarified on our our scale system. But yeah,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: that might be true, might be a little bit more
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: explanatory with exactly what we're defining here. But if even
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: if it is just for the week of September, a
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: six is pretty good for last week of September, you know. So, uh,
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: you should be optimistic. Don't take time off. But if
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: you already got it, or you already got a deer,
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you got patterns. Get after him this week. Speaking of
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: getting after it, Tyler Jones is an adventurous sort, and
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: he went up to North Dakota Chase Bucks around up there,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: spend a little time in the.
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: Mud and the kayak, and.
• 39:16
  Speaker 5: The more you in the tree and what not to do,
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: the better you get it something.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you got you were on the bucks either way,
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: I guess.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: So if you want to go watch that adventure, it's
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: on the Element YouTube channel. We'll put a link below,
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: as well as a link to Tony Peterson's most recent article.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: It's about blood trailing deer, and I'll get you the
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: title here. Three blood trailing mistakes that could cost you
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: a buck. You don't want to lose a buck, so
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: go read Tony's article about that. He knows a thing
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: or two about tracking deer. Guys, I appreciate you all listening.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: We're getting towards the best part of the year. It's
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: coming soon.
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: Be ready.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: Listen to these reports, make some good decisions, and remember
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: this has been rough.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: Fresh, keep it fresh.
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