Latest / The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast / Breaking News: Matt and Rachel
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- 0:00Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
- 0:03Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
- 0:06Speaker 2: It's a special headlines episode for the Almost Famous Podcast.
- 0:09Speaker 2: Today we are here to talk about something that's not
- 0:11Speaker 2: that fun to talk about, but it is a headline
- 0:14Speaker 2: and I'm sure viewers and listeners want to know what
- 0:19Speaker 2: we know about the Matt and Rachel situation. Now here
- 0:22Speaker 2: is what we know so far. We were kind of
- 0:27Speaker 2: brought onto this because of a post on Instagram that
- 0:30Speaker 2: Matt did announcing their breakup. This was a sweet post,
- 0:34Speaker 2: but it didn't go into any detail and it really
- 0:37Speaker 2: didn't hardly say they broke up, other than one line
- 0:40Speaker 2: where he said something about helping them get through this
- 0:44Speaker 2: time as they have separated. That's all we know. However,
- 0:50Speaker 2: through some investigation this morning from our team, we do
- 0:52Speaker 2: have some sources that are close to Matt and Rachel
- 0:55Speaker 2: that Ashley is going to speak about, and then we're
- 0:57Speaker 2: going to get into some speculation and also some recent
- 1:00Speaker 2: updates what we've been seeing from Matt and Rachel over
- 1:03Speaker 2: the last few weeks that led up to this moment.
- 1:06Speaker 3: All right, so they have been posting NonStop on their
- 1:09Speaker 3: trip from London. Some people are saying that the trip
- 1:12Speaker 3: from London wrapped about a week ago, but they were
- 1:16Speaker 3: very happy seeming during this trip. He has been posting
- 1:20Speaker 3: pictures and videos of the trip. As of last yesterday evening,
- 1:26Speaker 3: it was like seventeen hours ago that he posted a
- 1:29Speaker 3: reel as of the time that I got on this computer.
- 1:33Speaker 3: If we want to go this dark deep Reddit. People
- 1:38Speaker 3: are saying on Reddit that Matt was leaving comments on
- 1:41Speaker 3: TikTok about Rings getting engaged, and some people were saying
- 1:46Speaker 3: that she was probably getting sick of him doing that
- 1:49Speaker 3: without actually proposing. Another rumor thought from Reddit is that
- 1:57Speaker 3: this is the type of sh and the trip to
- 2:00Speaker 3: Europe with no Ring during this season when everybody's getting
- 2:03Speaker 3: engaged was probably the final straw for her. Guaranteed she
- 2:07Speaker 3: was expecting some sort of proposal in London, and when
- 2:09Speaker 3: she didn't get it, she decided this was it all right?
- 2:14Speaker 3: Two valid thoughts. I think the things that they've been
- 2:18Speaker 3: posting seemingly are I want to say that it's mostly
- 2:23Speaker 3: been him posting this week of the two of them,
- 2:28Speaker 3: and it doesn't seem to be sponsored content because in
- 2:31Speaker 3: some relationships, especially in Bachelor Nation. I'm thinking about Chris
- 2:35Speaker 3: and Crystal, they had to do some sponsored posts before
- 2:39Speaker 3: announcing their breakup, because you know, you want to get
- 2:42Speaker 3: the money for what you've done and being together. We
- 2:46Speaker 3: get it, But this is sue. This is just really
- 2:50Speaker 3: out of the blue for us. Because one of the
- 2:52Speaker 3: last headlines that we read about them was that he
- 2:55Speaker 3: was planning a proposal. It seemed like it was just
- 2:58Speaker 3: around the bend. They have together for four years. That
- 3:02Speaker 3: is a long time to date without a proposal. Before
- 3:06Speaker 3: we move on, let me read the caption. This was
- 3:08Speaker 3: posted at six am Eastern time. People are like, maybe
- 3:13Speaker 3: Matt was on a run and he decided to post
- 3:15Speaker 3: it then, because people were speculating about how weird it
- 3:18Speaker 3: was that it was early, so early. Here's the caption. Father, God,
- 3:23Speaker 3: give Rachel and I strength to mend our broken hearts.
- 3:26Speaker 3: Give us a piece about this decision to end our
- 3:29Speaker 3: relationship that transcends worldly understanding. Shower our friends and family
- 3:36Speaker 3: with kindness and love to comfort us and remind us
- 3:42Speaker 3: that joy comes from you, Lord, heartbroken emoji. Now. My
- 3:48Speaker 3: initial thought was, oh, man, I want this to be
- 3:53Speaker 3: some prank on us, because I was reading so many
- 3:57Speaker 3: comments under the headline you saw.
- 3:59Speaker 2: That this morning in a text, It's like, what kind
- 4:01Speaker 2: of prank is a no, exactly, Like that would make
- 4:05Speaker 2: me more mad than than breaking up.
- 4:10Speaker 3: A prank to the public, I believe, But there was
- 4:12Speaker 3: a lot of this. There's a lot of chatter. It
- 4:17Speaker 3: was like every fourth comment was saying, could this be
- 4:19Speaker 3: a prank on us? But as much as I would
- 4:23Speaker 3: love to believe that, because I really really was rooting
- 4:27Speaker 3: for them, they got they went through so much together,
- 4:31Speaker 3: I can't imagine that he would use a prayer as
- 4:35Speaker 3: a prank. Like, he's not going to do a fake prayer, right,
- 4:39Speaker 3: no way. He started his season with the prayer with
- 4:43Speaker 3: the girls.
- 4:44Speaker 2: I respect a man of faith. I think this caption
- 4:49Speaker 2: is saying enough for us to know it's over now.
- 4:52Speaker 2: The speculation from Reddit, I don't think is completely unfair.
- 4:56Speaker 2: So I do want to ign knowledge that this was
- 5:01Speaker 2: a very tough time for them, and also respect the
- 5:03Speaker 2: fact that they broke up and that we don't really
- 5:05Speaker 2: we're not really owed too much information. Yeah, However, some
- 5:10Speaker 2: weird things that stood out to me Ashley that I
- 5:12Speaker 2: think are standing out to most people. They have done
- 5:15Speaker 2: a tremendous job at separating themselves from the show completely.
- 5:20Speaker 2: I mean they right away were you know, Matt especially
- 5:23Speaker 2: was like, I'm done, I'm moved on. This thing is
- 5:26Speaker 2: what it was. We mes together and the show is
- 5:29Speaker 2: going to have no association with my life. And that
- 5:32Speaker 2: is a okay, that is a very fine strategy. However,
- 5:38Speaker 2: the breakup post is a picture of them at the
- 5:42Speaker 2: Bachelor mansion, which is odd to me.
- 5:45Speaker 3: Yes, it's also the moment that they met. They're holding hands.
- 5:50Speaker 3: Maybe there's some symbolism to that.
- 5:52Speaker 2: It just feels okay. I guess personally, it feels like
- 5:56Speaker 2: an interesting choice, I should say, for this picture to
- 6:01Speaker 2: announce a breakup when they have honestly done so much better.
- 6:04Speaker 2: Since then, they have been posting or he has been
- 6:07Speaker 2: posting on social media that seems like nothing is going on.
- 6:11Speaker 2: And then, as you mentioned from the sources that we
- 6:13Speaker 2: have that are very close to Matt and Rachel, when
- 6:16Speaker 2: they woke up this morning and saw this post, they
- 6:19Speaker 2: expected it to be a proposal post so.
- 6:21Speaker 3: People can engagement announcement.
- 6:23Speaker 2: Yeah, an engagement announcement. So people close to them had
- 6:26Speaker 2: no idea that things were happening. So with all that
- 6:29Speaker 2: being said, I, as Reddit does, I don't think they're
- 6:33Speaker 2: far off with there had to be some frustration with
- 6:37Speaker 2: the desire to get engagement and the jokes continuing about
- 6:42Speaker 2: the rings and a potential engagement and it never happening,
- 6:45Speaker 2: even with all these trips going on and all these
- 6:47Speaker 2: times together. I would imagine at some point that would
- 6:50Speaker 2: get frustrating, especially for the one that's like, are we
- 6:53Speaker 2: ever going to do this thing?
- 6:54Speaker 1: Like?
- 6:55Speaker 2: What am I doing? I'm getting older, We've dated for
- 6:58Speaker 2: a long time, are going to actually make this thing?
- 7:01Speaker 2: You know, the real deal? That would be my assumption,
- 7:05Speaker 2: my speculation, based on the clues that we have. I
- 7:09Speaker 2: have no context of that outside of the fact that
- 7:11Speaker 2: most people that knew them thought at some point here
- 7:14Speaker 2: soon they were going to get engaged.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Ironically, that was also the reason that he left the
- 7:21Speaker 3: show not engaged, because he just wasn't ready, and so
- 7:24Speaker 3: he was like, let's date in real life. Well, they
- 7:26Speaker 3: have been dating in real life for four years now.
- 7:29Speaker 2: I will say this, this might be advisor and be
- 7:34Speaker 2: listening if you've been dating somebody in your later twenties, thirties, forties, fifties, sixties, seventies, eighties,
- 7:44Speaker 2: as the Golden Show.
- 7:45Speaker 3: Does, basically as you're saying, if you're not in high
- 7:47Speaker 3: school or college for.
- 7:49Speaker 2: Four years, and the two of you are on a
- 7:52Speaker 2: different page when it comes to the future, it's probably
- 7:56Speaker 2: time to step away.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Now, if you two are on the same page, you're
- 7:59Speaker 2: like not going to ever get engaged. We're not into
- 8:02Speaker 2: this marriage thing or you know, whatever that may be.
- 8:05Speaker 2: We're saving up money and we both know that the
- 8:07Speaker 2: timing will be once we get enough money together, all
- 8:10Speaker 2: that stuff. But if you're on different if you're on
- 8:13Speaker 2: different pages there after four years and this conversation has
- 8:17Speaker 2: not seemed to ever come together in a compromise or
- 8:20Speaker 2: into an excitement about what the future could hold, it's
- 8:23Speaker 2: probably time to move on.
- 8:25Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Any thoughts as to the fact that she hasn't posted
- 8:39Speaker 3: This is six hours now after he posted.
- 8:42Speaker 2: From my experience, I would typically say the person most
- 8:46Speaker 2: hurt and most confused is the one that is hesitant
- 8:52Speaker 2: to share with the public. I mean, if you're confident
- 8:56Speaker 2: in this decision, you're sharing with the public. If you're
- 8:59Speaker 2: still in a place of mourning, healing, being a little angry,
- 9:04Speaker 2: you're not sharing this with the public because you probably
- 9:06Speaker 2: don't have nice Like you don't have this, it's probably
- 9:10Speaker 2: really hard for you to type out a caption that
- 9:14Speaker 2: says what you want to say and doesn't slam the person. Now, again,
- 9:21Speaker 2: this is speculation, that's my guess. If you're asking me why,
- 9:23Speaker 2: I think that's been my experience.
- 9:27Speaker 3: Has that been your experience with Lauren?
- 9:30Speaker 2: I can't remember. Actually, honestly that was.
- 9:32Speaker 3: You were so tied to the show still at that point. Yeah,
- 9:35Speaker 3: I must have been. You must have had aid good point,
- 9:40Speaker 3: you had pr around you.
- 9:43Speaker 2: Okay.
- 9:43Speaker 3: I just also want to mention that this eighteen hours
- 9:45Speaker 3: ago real that they posted, or that he posted, She's
- 9:49Speaker 3: not a collaborator on it. It was everything we ordered
- 9:52Speaker 3: at at CRISP Pizza. So I'm wondering if it was
- 9:57Speaker 3: sort of a collaboration with the restaurant.
- 10:01Speaker 2: For free pizza.
- 10:02Speaker 3: Well, I mean that's I don't know. They are food
- 10:05Speaker 3: bloggers really, so I don't know if they have to
- 10:08Speaker 3: disclose whether it's an ad or not. I'm sure a
- 10:10Speaker 3: lot of these places are paying them to eat there. Yeah,
- 10:14Speaker 3: I think it'd be super duper weird of him just
- 10:17Speaker 3: to post a funsie reeal with her eighteen twelve hours before.
- 10:23Speaker 3: If you're going if you need to post this real,
- 10:27Speaker 3: so you needed to post this reel last night he
- 10:29Speaker 3: posts it, why would he decide I'm just going to
- 10:31Speaker 3: announce the breakup tomorrow, wait a week.
- 10:34Speaker 2: It's very confusing, honestly. Also, I can't imagine a restaurant's
- 10:38Speaker 2: paying enough for you to say, hey, by the way,
- 10:40Speaker 2: we're going to hold this deal, like I'll just give
- 10:42Speaker 2: you the money back and pay for the pizza and
- 10:44Speaker 2: we're not going to post this because it feels inappropriate
- 10:48Speaker 2: at this time, like there's no way one restaurant is
- 10:50Speaker 2: paying enough to make it worth sharing, and then the
- 10:55Speaker 2: next day being like, oh, by the way, after that
- 10:56Speaker 2: piece of pizza, we broke up last night. But this
- 11:02Speaker 2: is not in live time supposedly, Well that's what it
- 11:04Speaker 2: feels like to the public, though.
- 11:06Speaker 3: I know I know that the public is going to
- 11:08Speaker 3: assume that like, oh, you poosted a restaurant, this is
- 11:10Speaker 3: probably where you ate last night. No, but even if
- 11:12Speaker 3: it was a week ago, that where they ate did
- 11:15Speaker 3: they ate there a week ago? It's still like, holy crap, Yeah,
- 11:18Speaker 3: like that is a fast turnaround for the breakup. But also,
- 11:22Speaker 3: if you have to post for the restaurant and you're
- 11:25Speaker 3: broken up, at least hold off the breakup announcement for
- 11:28Speaker 3: a week.
- 11:29Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Uh, it's not a good look on the restaurant. Maybe
- 11:32Speaker 2: the pizza wasn't good.
- 11:33Speaker 3: The pizza looks freaking incredible. I'm so I'm thinking about
- 11:37Speaker 3: what I'm going to eat after this podcast after looking
- 11:39Speaker 3: at their Instagram. And you know how you mentioned earlier
- 11:44Speaker 3: that they're so like not necessarily they're not necessarily tied
- 11:47Speaker 3: to the show so much anymore. My nanny walked in
- 11:50Speaker 3: today and she was like, did you hear about Matt
- 11:51Speaker 3: and Rachel. She goes, I never watched them on the show,
- 11:54Speaker 3: but like, I love their food blogging. That's what how
- 11:58Speaker 3: she knew them.
- 11:59Speaker 2: Hmm, that's sweet. I'm it's stink. I mean, it's too
- 12:03Speaker 2: bad because they did have a long, a good thing
- 12:06Speaker 2: going and they had dated for a long time. They
- 12:08Speaker 2: obviously have a really rough start, not because of the
- 12:11Speaker 2: two of them, but just because of the timing and
- 12:14Speaker 2: what was going on the show. Obviously that was during
- 12:17Speaker 2: the time of Chris Harrison's departure from the show. You
- 12:20Speaker 2: kind I mean, I remember a conversation you and I
- 12:23Speaker 2: had on this podcast where we said, if you can
- 12:25Speaker 2: make it through these moments, it feels like you have
- 12:27Speaker 2: the strength to really do this thing long term. And
- 12:31Speaker 2: I never expected them to break up because four years in,
- 12:36Speaker 2: you're thinking they've both agreed that this is just a
- 12:39Speaker 2: path they're taking. Yeah, this was a shock this morning,
- 12:42Speaker 2: this morning to so many. Hey, that's all we have
- 12:45Speaker 2: for you. That's a special Headlines episode. We'll continue to
- 12:48Speaker 2: share any information we have as we go. Obviously, breakups
- 12:51Speaker 2: aren't the most fun thing to talk about, but they
- 12:53Speaker 2: are a big part of the headlines within Bachelor Nations.
- 12:56Speaker 2: So until next time, I've been Been, I've Been Ashley.
- 12:58Speaker 4: See you.
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