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Jrue Holiday to the Utah Jazz via Trade? Rudy Gobert shines in playoffs, Skubal & Acuna injuries, Dalton Rushing making Waves · DnA Sports Recap

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  SPEAKER_00: Should the Jazz pursue Drew Holiday?
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, before that, let's go ahead and talk a little bit about uh the news that kind of broke over the week here uh for Utah Jazz.
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  SPEAKER_00: And let's go ahead and get started with it, man.
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  SPEAKER_00: The trade rumors are starting.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so this one, the most recent rumor, AJ, uh, this one is coming from uh gosh, it was about Drew Holiday and the the jazz potential interest on him.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh the rumors are linking Utah Jazz to Drew Holiday, uh, and still more mostly it's speculative, uh, but uh has popped up popped up a lot over last week.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um so yeah, here's basically what we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to the who has been mentioning this, multiple NBA insiders, um, Jake Fisher uh from the Stein line has reported that Portland uh is looking to basically field trade interest when it comes to uh holiday this offseason.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh Utah Jazz have emerged as one of the theoretical fits for uh holiday's services, uh just simply because we know we're now moving out of the rebuilding stays and more into the try and compete phase of our of our uh timeline here.
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  SPEAKER_00: And uh, you know, basically because of that, we these obvious moves are indicating that like the trade for Jaron Jackson Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: at the trade deadline last year.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um analysis believes that with holiday's kind of versatile defensive play, playoff experience, ball handling, uh he would be addressing uh major weakness for the Utah jazz.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, no, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and he would be.
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  SPEAKER_01: I mean, holiday is a 17-year NBA vet um who's played in a thousand ninety career games.
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  SPEAKER_01: He has he's averaged 32 minutes per game while shooting 46% from the field and 37% from three in those games.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um his best season from three came in 23 and 24, where he shot 42.9 percent from three.
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  SPEAKER_01: So for his career, he's averaged 15.9 points, 6.2 assists, 4.2 rebounds, and 1.4 steals per game, which is very impressive.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, he's pretty widely known as probably the best, one of I mean one of the best defensive guards in the NBA, even to this day.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, he's a six-time NBA all-defensive team selection.
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  SPEAKER_01: He's a two-time NBA champion.
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  SPEAKER_01: He won a championship with the Bucs in 21 and the Celtics in 23.
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  SPEAKER_01: So, how does he help the Jazz?
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  SPEAKER_01: That's pretty simple.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, all he's got to do is be out on the floor with one of the best young cores in the NBA.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, he's he's got great leadership.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, he takes pride on the defense on the defensive side of the floor, which is just contagious, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: You you have a guy out there like him that you know paired up with Walker Kessler, Jaron Jackson Jr.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, that's contagious.
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  SPEAKER_01: That energy um to play good, tough defense, that could immediately turn this into one of the premier defensive teams in the NBA.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, then you throw in that he's a lockdown three-point shooter uh that makes good decisions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, that he he could absolutely make this team a lot better.
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  SPEAKER_01: No, I mean, no doubt about it.
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  SPEAKER_01: Should the Jazz pursue him is is the question that I think we're trying to answer here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um and I just don't know, I don't think so.
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, let's start first with the biggest obstacle I think that jumps out to me, yeah, which is gonna be the salary.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, oh, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so holiday is roughly making about 35 million a year over the next two seasons.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, so we already have two of those guys on our roster already.
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  SPEAKER_00: We have Jaron Jackson Jr.
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  SPEAKER_00: who's making over 30 million, and we have and we have uh Laurie Market who's making over 30 million as well.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
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  SPEAKER_00: Not to mention you also got to pay Walker Kessler.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like if you want to bring him back, he's gonna be in around 20 million.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_00: You want to extend Keonta this offseason uh to his, you know, to buy him out of his, you know, uh restricted free agent year.
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  SPEAKER_01: You almost said arbitration.
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  SPEAKER_00: I almost did say arbitration.
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  SPEAKER_00: I did.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, you want to pull him out of that before he gets into that unrestricted free agent season.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so you're looking at, well, gosh, how many millions, how many tens of millions did I just mention?
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  SPEAKER_00: 80, 70, 80, 90.
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  SPEAKER_00: 90 million and on four players.
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  SPEAKER_00: On four players, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so now you want to absorb a 335 million dollar contract for the next two years.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't think you really want to do that now because you don't even know who you have on the court right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and also it's also been reported that you know Holiday wants to stay in Portland.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: He went back to Portland on his own.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he doesn't he was traded, but that was his selection of teams to go back to.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he doesn't want to come to Utah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He blocked a trade to Utah last time and decided to go to Portland instead.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_00: Like we we already had him, we already were gonna trade for him um outside of um before he went to Portland and then ended up in Boston.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: We had a trade coming in for him and he blocked it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he was like, yeah, nah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what makes you think this is gonna be any different?
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  SPEAKER_00: So that's the other problem.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, Portland's motivation is obviously there.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, they're trying to clear up some long-term salaries, open up some backcourt meds for some younger players, um, and also preserving flexibility and trying to pursue, and this is what I love.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is coming from SLC Dunk, uh, trying to pursue flexibility so they can go after Giannis Ante DeCumpo or another star level move.
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  SPEAKER_00: Why the other star level move I agree with, there's no way Giannis is going to Portland.
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  SPEAKER_01: That is correct.
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  SPEAKER_00: We actually had somebody comment on one of our videos that the Jazz should push the chips in the middle and try and trade for Giannis.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, and while I I appreciate that go for it kind of attitude, uh Giannis has made it very clear he's not going any further west than he already is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he wants to be close to Greece.
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  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's why he it used to be New York.
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  SPEAKER_00: That was the only team he wanted to go to.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think maybe he's open to maybe Brooklyn or possibly Miami.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, he's not going any further west than where he is.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't care about the contract.
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  SPEAKER_00: He wants to stay close to Greece.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know, man.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, obviously, there's many Utah media outlets and podcasts that have discussed this as a perfect fit for Utah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Um, again, the stylistic is obviously there.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's a great fit for what we're talking about here, is for what the Giants need.
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  SPEAKER_00: Uh, most of the coverage, though, still has it as a logical landing spot uh versus actually confirmed talks.
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  SPEAKER_00: We don't actually know in the short term if there's anything that has actually linked Utah to Portland in these trade talks at all.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Also, why I think it's a good rumor and I think it's a good fit historically, it hasn't happened, and we don't have any evidence that it actually is happening now.
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  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
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  SPEAKER_00: I think this one's kind of I don't I don't put a lot of stock in it as well.
• 8:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think it's just all theoretical, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, in this theoretical conversation, my biggest concern would be what do you have to give up to get Drew Holiday?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know what I mean?
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, is it Bryce Sensibaugh and future first rounds?
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  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, this is this is a crazy package to match salaries for a guy that makes$35 million a year.
• 8:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_01: It it's too much, really.
• 8:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, buy Bryce Sensibaugh right there, man.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Sensiba's for sure gone.
• 8:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um I I mean Isaiah Collier pretty much has to go.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Isaiah Collier, Bryce Sensibaugh.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe one of those two can stay, but I I think you're right there.
• 9:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 9:04
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because Keontae, where you put Keontae, does Zace then go to the bench?
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_01: You're I mean, uh, that's the thing is if you're if you're Portland, are you are you accepting a trade that doesn't include Keontae, George?
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: Or one that doesn't include uh Ace Bailey.
• 9:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, exactly.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know, either one of those guys.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_01: And and as a jazz fan, you're like, no, we can't lose either one of those guys.
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe they would go after Cody Williams.
• 9:24
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 9:25
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't seem like it's gonna, whatever we won't give up is not gonna be what Portland wants.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_00: I think.
• 9:30
  SPEAKER_00: And so we want to hear from you folks.
• 9:31
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we got uh we got some comments here from Greg Hawkins.
• 9:36
  SPEAKER_00: Go jazz, appreciate it, man.
• 9:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, we also got three more outs to go in this game, gents.
• 9:41
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I guess you're talking about the Cubs game, man.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'll have to see.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: We need to get that pulled up.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and then we also have Triple J, sorry, Jij Jazz Force.
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go with that from now on, whenever he logs in.
• 9:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna go Jij Jazz Force.
• 9:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's Forge.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Forge?
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Jazz Forge, yes.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: Gonna go with that.
• 9:57
  SPEAKER_00: Jij Jazz Forge.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's probably the way to go about it.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_00: We got a comment from him.
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe Delta can launch a direct SLC to Athens flight for Giannis.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, private charter Concorde, right?
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do that.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Let's bring back the Concorde.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_02: Hell yeah.
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_00: Who gives who cares about FAA regulations?
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_00: Let's have that supersonic jet fly from here to Greece.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_00: Let's do that.
• 10:15
  SPEAKER_00: I'm good with it.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: I'm all right with it too.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: Doesn't bother me at all.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_00: You start the uh you start the uh campaign there.
• 10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the GoFundMe.
• 10:21
  SPEAKER_00: And we'll and we'll be there.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: We'll be there.
• 10:23
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 10:24
  SPEAKER_00: Um, yeah, so that's kind of interesting, man.
• 10:27
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, more rumors to come.
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_00: We'll talk about it as we go uh throughout and uh kind of cover those in greater detail as they come through.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but let's kind of go ahead and shift over and talk a little bit about more something that's more current.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um that's actually happening in the NBA, which is the Minnesota Timberwolves and NBA playoffs.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the biggest stories in past years, right?
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: There's always been this like speculation um over the years, including his years with the Utah Jazz, um that you can't win the playoffs with Mr.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Rudy Gobert.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um he's he's too one-dimensional.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, even though he's great defensively, uh his inefficiency on the offensive side of the ball, it it can just it can be isolated and exploited.
• 11:11
  SPEAKER_01: And in playoff games, those are the two things that you can't have.
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_01: You can't isolate any one player because if you can exploit one, you you can you can break a whole team down.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: We watched it with the jazz, right?
• 11:22
  SPEAKER_01: We watched it happen in real time as jazz fans four or five years ago.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but the Timberwolves just took down the the Denver Nuggets, who were NBA champions just two years ago.
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um, they're they're looking good in the series so far against the Spurs, and a lot of that was very much due to Rudy Gobert.
• 11:42
  SPEAKER_01: So, my question for you, my good friend, is is it time to give Rudy Gobert some credit for all the things he's done in this series and the things he has gotten so much grief over over the years?
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, see, that's where I want to start about the grief over the years.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's a great place to start where we lead into it.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_00: So the narrative has been definitely shifting from what his time was when he was here with Utah, right?
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um I remember when Rudy, the the rumor was the the saying was Rudy got exposed in the pro season, right?
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Uh teams, especially the 2021 Clippers, uh, would neutralize him by running smaller lineups, pulling him out of the paint, forcing him um in in to guard in space, right?
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_00: The 21 2021 Crippler series became like the defining example of how you know Utah would repeatedly, you know, would repeatedly allow dribble, and then Rudy Gobert would rotate to protect the rim, and the click click clippers would just kick it out to a wide open corner three, right?
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: Social media and TV commentaries simplified that into Rudy Gobert cannot guard the perimeter.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_00: And even though many analysts later argued that Utah's perimeter defense was collapsing before Rudy ever had a chance, uh, I think a lot of the narrative was that, oh, Rudy just can't for somebody who's got a three-time defensive player of the year award, this guy can't defend in the playoffs when it matters.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Now, okay, so let's take that and let's see who he's playing with now, right?
• 13:05
  SPEAKER_00: So now he's not carrying the defense alone.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Gobert is now playing with Jaden McDaniels, uh, Anthony Edwards, Nas Reed, and other long physical type defenders.
• 13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Minnesota knows how to pressure the ball, Minnesota knows how to switch on action more on pick and roll, and they also know how to recover out on shooters, which allows Rudy to stay closer to his strengths.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: And this never stood out more than it did against, like you mentioned, that series against the Denver Nuggets with Nikola uh with Nikola Jokic.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: Um Gobert wasn't isolated, um, basically wasn't isolated in the way that he was often with Utah.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: Utah uh was again, everything went through Rudy, right?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh the Wolves defense is more connected of a unit, and Rudy was able to basically be the final layer of the defense versus the only layer of defense when he came to Utah.
• 13:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: Queen Snyder's thing was like, you know, drive him to the baseline, push him in towards Rudy, and let him let him handle it, right?
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that was literally the defensive scheme.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and which obviously didn't work.
• 14:05
  SPEAKER_00: Uh now Minnesota has won their series uh that you mentioned uh with Denver, four to two, largely due to because of the you know Denver's entire offensive structure just got knocked down by Minnesota's defense, right?
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Gobert was the anchor of this one.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: Uh against Gobert, uh Jokic uh had you know statistically some of the most efficient playoff basketball he's ever had in his career.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: In game three, Jokic shot just seven for 26 from the field while Gobert controlled the paint.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, through many games of the series, analytics uh basically uh noted that basically joke, you know, Jokic was a jump shooter, you know, and he was looking uncomfortable in rush because Gobert stayed disciplined and kept his feet on the ground and did not bite any of his fakes.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: And and he does it a lot too.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Jokic is known for faking five times to get you off your feet, and then I mean that's what he does.
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: That's why he goes to the line 20 times a game.
• 14:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and again, one of the stats that are circulating heavily was showing that Jokic was 12 for 41 when directly guarded by Rudy Gobert in the first three games of the series, shooting 29%.
• 15:09
  SPEAKER_00: It also doesn't help that he was not his his three-point percentage was terrible during this postseason, which again, you have a seven foot two Rudy right in front of your face.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot harder to shoot threes.
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a lot harder to shoot threes over.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_00: In that scenario, absolutely versus shooting over some of these smaller guards.
• 15:25
  SPEAKER_00: So Rudy uh Gober is uh, you know, definitely outplayed um on the defensive end, and some of those, and and you know, he never had to gamble for blocks like he had to do with the Utah because he had help on defense.
• 15:37
  SPEAKER_00: He was able to stay vertical, cut off easy passing angles, which actually forced him to be more uh more with like fadeaways and floaters and kind of try and settle for a deep three, right?
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah um, and again, the Minnesota perimeter defenders you know helped kept get you know kept get Denver's uh smaller players uh in check.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_00: So when it comes to that, AJ, there's one other person on the on you know that's mentioned this that I can't take credit for because it came from David Locke first.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: When Rudy O'Bear is at his prime, he's a top 10 player in the league.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: So because of his ability to change a team's defensive structure, you know, you take Rudy O'Bear, you put him on, you take him off the Timberwolves, they're a bottom 10 defensive team.
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_01: Easily.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: You put him on, they're one of the best defensive teams in the NBA.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: The problem was with Utah, they say the narrative was oh, Rudy Gobert can't defend.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: The rest of the Jazz had zero help for defense.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_00: It was all on Rudy.
• 16:35
  SPEAKER_00: All their guards were undersized, they didn't have length, they didn't have height, and they just simply didn't guard anybody.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_00: They just they were turnstiles.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I would say, aside from like Royce O'Neill, Royce O'Neal was a good defensive player.
• 16:47
  SPEAKER_01: He's more than a wing than a guard, though.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely more during his time, he played the 2-3 role a lot more.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: You know, more of a 3nd D kind of guy.
• 16:55
  SPEAKER_00: But I mean, he was the one.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: He he was guarding the team's best offensive player that if they weren't a center.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: You know, yeah.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: So, and in that case, like I said, it's all fell on him or a role player to come in there.
• 17:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that's really the narrative.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think necessarily Rudy did anything different this postseason.
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that the Minnesota Timberwolves did a better job of utilizing Rudy to his maximum potential and the rest of the roster.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I totally agree.
• 17:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the Timberwolves have done a really good job um filling out that roster with defensive talent, which it's it was always going to help Rudy, right?
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's always going to put him in a situation where he can be more successful because he can play his position.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he they ended up with a great matchup.
• 17:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, as scary as that sounds to have the Denver Nuggets in the first round, um, that's a really good basketball team.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_01: And Nicola Jokic is a three-time MVP for a reason because he can do it all.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_01: But that's a great matchup for Rudy.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: For sure.
• 17:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, especially when he's down to the paint, Rudy can guard him there.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_01: Uh Minnesota's long enough and fast enough that they can guard him out on you know at the three-point line, and Rudy can stay home because there's nobody else down there that even remotely threatens Rudy.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: So uh but but I think they have the same type of matchup with the Spurs and Wenbinyama coming forward.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 18:13
  SPEAKER_01: So because Wenbinyama is a very similar player to Jokic, just bigger and a better blocker.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um I agree.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think this is another advantage that that definitely favors Rudy.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: Um Rudy is bigger and stronger than Victor Wenbinama's gonna be.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I yeah, uh I think advantage Rudy again.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: So they're both uh French teammates, too.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're I mean they're good friends, yeah, for sure.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_00: They know each other pretty well.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, when it comes to that, man, and yeah, uh, we want to hear from you folks.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know where your thoughts are in the comments down below when it comes to Rudy.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, do you think it's really time to uh put to bed that narrative that he was a postseason defensive liability versus you know, really was just the rest of the jazz not being able to defend um when it comes to that in the postseason?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you in the comments down below.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Uh hey there, AJ.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: So we're on the outside of the playoffs looking in, right?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Again.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_00: Again.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: Hopefully for the last year or a while.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_01: Not hopefully, for the last year.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: That's right, because they're winning 50 games this year next season.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, that's on the internet.
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's out there.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: AJ, put it out there.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: That's our that's our that's our benchmarker.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's our marker.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so since our team is out, AJ.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, who's your favorite team to watch the rest of the way, and why should the rest of Jazz Nation follow suit?
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: I gotta go Timberwolves, dude.
• 19:30
  SPEAKER_01: I just gotta.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: All right, ready line.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the the big thing is, is like I was a huge Rudy Gobert fan when he was here in Utah, right?
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: He was he was a part of the community, he was super involved when he first got here.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um he was he was always out doing stuff.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: You could find Rudy, um, you know, and just being a person, you know, taking pictures up on the mountains and he is a person, you know.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: He but I mean being a person, right?
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like being involved in the community, oh absolutely out, like just out and about in the malls, like um so so Rudy's one of the one of my favorite players in the league.
• 20:07
  SPEAKER_01: Um the fact that he's on the Timberwolves just happens to be uh a fun fact, but um how cool would it be to see Joe Ingalls get a ring.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_00: Oh dude, that'd be great.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, especially, you know, check out our video from last week.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_01: We talked about Joe Ingalls last year.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: He's he's pretty much officially announced he's looking to get an NBL contract and back, you know, to head back to Australia.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um and then Mike Conley's on the Timberwolves.
• 20:30
  SPEAKER_01: Love Mountain Mike, you know, he came here and played a lot of really good, really good basketball for Utah.
• 20:35
  SPEAKER_00: His only all-star uh season was with Utah.
• 20:37
  SPEAKER_01: Just just a stand-up dude, though.
• 20:39
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, for sure.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Mike Conley's been one of the best teammates of the year.
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's won that award multiple times.
• 20:45
  SPEAKER_01: Like, just a great guy.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you'd love to see him and Rudy and Joe Ingalls.
• 20:50
  SPEAKER_01: Hell, I'm even all I'm all for Kyle Anderson, right?
• 20:52
  SPEAKER_01: He was with the jazz for half a year.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Half a cup of coffee.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_01: Still, still half a jazz man um for as long as you want to call it for.
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so there's enough jazz, you know, ex-jazz players on the Timberwolves.
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you you gotta love Anthony Edwards.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know how you're you feel about him, but kid's a hell of a young player, man.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like, does he run his mouth a little bit?
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but hell of a young player.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_00: Not in a way that really that, you know.
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't think he's super like disagreeable.
• 21:19
  SPEAKER_01: No, I don't think so.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_01: I I think he's a young kid that talks to the media and says what he thinks and yeah, which which is refreshing.
• 21:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, but he's also not you know but he's not just your typical NBA robot answers, and he's also not just a typical NBA player.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_00: He, you know, you can you can accept somebody speaking out of out of turn, not necessarily out of turn, but basically out of out of step with what the rest of players do when they're when they're good, you know.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: So I I don't know.
• 21:46
  SPEAKER_00: I find what he says refreshing.
• 21:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, I I you know I don't want these players to be a robot, dude.
• 21:51
  SPEAKER_00: You shove a mic in their face, you expect them to ask answer a question, you're hoping to get it sound by you can't get mad at him when they give you one, you know.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so absolutely, yeah.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_00: But no, I'm I I agree with you.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: Man.
• 22:00
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's really interesting.
• 22:01
  SPEAKER_00: Lots of good storylines when it comes to the postseason for uh former Utah Jazz players uh in this one.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, Rudy in Minnesota with Mountain Mike, and you know, obviously Joe Ingalls with that team.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_00: But we also have JC in New York uh playing for the Knicks, who have a series lead against Philly, at least at the time of recording, anyway.
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh they had a 1-0 series lead there, and I believe they're playing right now.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Um, one of the most interesting, though, in my opinion, AJ, it's got to be back east.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_00: And this is gonna be uh Donovan Mitchell in Cleveland.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_00: Spider has not led a team to a conference final in his career.
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: And at the time of recording, they're currently down 1-0 to the Pistons.
• 22:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think they're playing right now, though.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, again, you know, everything like this ages like milk when we do these weekly shows.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, when it comes to that, dude, I don't know if you remember the conversation, um, the post-game conversation when the Jazz won a playoff game and Shaq said, Hey, you're a believable player, you're an unbelievable player.
• 22:55
  SPEAKER_00: I think you're super talented, but I don't think you got what it takes to take your team to the next level, and I want you to hear that from me.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: And he went, I remember that?
• 23:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and there was a bunch of I t-shirts and I stuff, and you know, like that with the Utah Jazz logo.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_01: I do remember that, yeah.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, dude, I hate to say it.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe, maybe Shaq might have been right, dude.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: I as I'm sitting right now, man, this is really kind of your last chance to do so.
• 23:17
  SPEAKER_00: The Cleveland Cavaliers are A, gonna either get LeBron back next year or B goes back to Miami.
• 23:23
  SPEAKER_00: You know, LeBron, you know, this is really kind of gonna be the last time where it's a Donovan Mitchell-led team.
• 23:29
  SPEAKER_00: And if he doesn't do it this year, the chances of him doing it when he's another year older and getting his team, a team that he leads to the conference finals, it's looking harder and harder for him to do, man.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_00: Do I think he won't make it to the conference finals?
• 23:42
  SPEAKER_00: Do I not think he's gonna make it to the finals?
• 23:44
  SPEAKER_00: Do I think he's not ever gonna win a ring?
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_00: No, I'm not saying that.
• 23:46
  SPEAKER_00: What I'm saying is when he is the primary option on a team offensively, he has not been able to get into a conference final.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_00: And if he doesn't do it this year, I don't think it's gonna happen.
• 23:57
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's definitely a big concern for Donovan, right?
• 24:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think and I think that could maybe maybe I'll get into his head, but um you know, he he went to Cleveland with the hopes that that that was that was their final goal.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like you've you've got to get us to the championship.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: You're the guy.
• 24:14
  SPEAKER_01: He's played some good games in this playoff series so far.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um you know, he didn't get uh quite as many calls.
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see all the comments about flopping after game one?
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, jeez.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, I did.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he's just saying I don't flop, I play legit basketball.
• 24:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even LeBron says he doesn't flop, you know.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_01: But the thing was is Donovan didn't get calls, he only went to the line six times.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: True.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: I just think they call it a lot tighter in the in the playoffs than they do during the regular season.
• 24:39
  SPEAKER_01: I think they do, but I think that Donovan and look, I'm a Donovan Mitchell fan, but uh I think he plays a straight up game, though.
• 24:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 24:48
  SPEAKER_01: He he's always trying to finish a play, he's not trying to get foul calls.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: No, he's not gonna be called.
• 24:53
  SPEAKER_00: He's trying to score.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's the same reason why James Harden always failed on the playoffs.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're but if you're fouled, you're fouled, and referees have to call that.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, man.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_00: I think they call it a lot tighter.
• 25:02
  SPEAKER_01: They they do, absolutely.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think they allow a lot more physical contact.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: But then you look at the Oklahoma City game, and you know, SGA gets 22 foul calls and goes to the line all these times.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_00: He's an MVP.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_00: But on a on a championship team.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Is it tight or is it not?
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_00: It's tight, but it's you can't argue like I can, you know, I love this, dude.
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love this debate because I can I can talk this all like all day long.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Until we have some type of robo officials or some type of contact sensors, yeah, you have to deal with favoritism in the league.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: MVPs and champions will always get favored calls when people like Donovan Mitchell, who's simply just an all-star, never won a never been an MVP, never won a title, he's not gonna get the same calls as SGA.
• 25:44
  SPEAKER_00: He's not gonna get the same calls as you know Jokic.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: Jokic or anybody.
• 25:49
  SPEAKER_01: LeBron.
• 25:50
  SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I don't know.
• 25:52
  SPEAKER_00: I think the NBA is kind of tired of his flopping, so who knows?
• 25:55
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to that man, I honestly think that um, yeah, that's something that you that if that's the narrative that they're pushing, that you like he's not getting the calls.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: You know, well, I don't think it's them pushing it.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: This was my opinion.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Donovan didn't push.
• 26:09
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he made the comment saying that he didn't, you know, he didn't get a few calls, but I don't I don't think it was super hard narrative or anything like that.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's fine.
• 26:16
  SPEAKER_01: It was just a very it was a very casual comment in a cup in a conversation.
• 26:20
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, that's probably fine then, because yeah, he's never been that type of player to complain about the game.
• 26:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no, and he wasn't.
• 26:24
  SPEAKER_00: That would be like way out of character.
• 26:25
  SPEAKER_01: To be clear, yeah, he was not.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: That was my opinion.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_01: That he and and and and in my notes, I literally have he has to find a way to get to the line, right?
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: To be that guy, you can't score just 20 points in this game.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: You need to score 30 points in this game.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: You've got to take your team to the next level, which involves like getting to the line five more times for 10 more points, or playing defense on three more runs down, or finishing the game out, right?
• 26:52
  SPEAKER_01: But that's I mean, that's the whole thing, right?
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_01: Is like this this team needs the next step from Donovan, and if he can do that and get them to the conference finals, I have faith that he could go to the next level and take them all the way to the finals.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_01: Because if he can if he can dig deep enough to find that extra gear, once you have it, you have it.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: But he hasn't had it yet.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: I would have to agree with you.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: If they get past this series, I think they're they should be, yeah, they're gonna be in the title.
• 27:20
  SPEAKER_00: Title if they get past this series.
• 27:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but that's a big if.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_00: That's asking Donovan Mitchell to do something he hasn't done before.
• 27:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm I'm and keep in mind, just like you said, we are Donovan supporters on this channel.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: I sorry, I was doing the Donovan, bro.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I gotcha.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: I oh I thought you said I, and then you were gonna like pause for uh dramatic.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_01: I was just saying I.
• 27:44
  SPEAKER_00: Uh but yeah, no, so when it comes to that man, like we are Donovan supporters on this channel.
• 27:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh he gave us his best years of basketball.
• 27:50
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, not his best years, but he gave us a lot of great years of basketball.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_01: Great years of basketball.
• 27:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think his best year was actually in Cleveland, though.
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_00: But uh, like he's given us a lot of great years in Utah, and he really kind of helped us out a big time when Gordon Hayward made the decision uh that he made that he thought was a bigger deal than it actually was.
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like if it wasn't for Donovan Mitchell, man, jazz fans would have been in a depression mode world of hurt for a long time, yeah, a long time.
• 28:14
  SPEAKER_00: And he pulled us out of that really quick.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: And so the next season.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we were literally in love with the dude right for the get-go.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, you know, Gordon Hayward, who?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, who cares?
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_00: So, and you know, it's all due to him.
• 28:25
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that Gordon Hayward plays four minutes and breaks his shin bone in half.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Was it even four minutes?
• 28:31
  SPEAKER_01: It might not even have been that long.
• 28:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and you know, I you know, good, you know, good for him that he was able to come back from that and still sign another max contract somehow um with Charlotte.
• 28:40
  SPEAKER_00: So good for him, man.
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_00: Good for him.
• 28:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, um, but yeah, I just I don't know, man.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_00: I really think that there's a lot of stories to come in out of this one and that one with Spider Mitch is gonna be the most interesting one to me.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, is Gordon Hayward retired now?
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, he retired last year.
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, he did, okay.
• 28:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: That's the last season.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_00: We want to hear from you folks.
• 28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Let us know what your thoughts are in the comments down below.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_00: Um, as a reminder, folks, we did launch a channel specifically for you, Utah Jazz called Utah Jazz DNA.
• 29:05
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I don't need to say that because we actually put that on the end.
• 29:07
  SPEAKER_00: So we're good to go there.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's hit a few of these comments here.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we have this comment from Jazz Forge.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, and New York is now up 2-0.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: Clarkson off the bench, eight points, five rebounds, two dreadlocks.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, dude.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: I love it.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_00: Love it.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: Love Jordan Clarkson, though.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: JC's the man.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: I I do hope the Knicks can get.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: I hope I would love to see Jordan Clarkson, you know, take it into the next series.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: I would love to see Jordan Clarkson versus Donovan Mitchell.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: Versus Donovan Mitchell in the end.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_00: Who actually plays defense in that game?
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: Nobody.
• 29:39
  SPEAKER_00: I think JC does.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think JC does.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: JC plays more defense than Donovan.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: I think he will play.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: I think he will body up a player for sure.
• 29:46
  SPEAKER_01: You know he is too.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome, man.
• 29:48
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 29:49
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate the comment.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's go ahead and pivot on over and talk some baseball, man.
• 29:53
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• 30:03
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• 30:08
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• 30:15
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• 30:18
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• 30:19
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, let's go ahead and talk some baseball here.
• 30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Let's get over here and get this over so we can actually see what we're doing over here.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Well, don't you put it on that screen?
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_00: We totally should have put it on this screen.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean that screen's like way bigger.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's way bigger.
• 30:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's completely blank.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, one of these times we should show you behind the scenes and kind of how this set looks on the other side.
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_00: It's pretty funny, actually.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's great how we do this.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: You wouldn't guess that this is what that it looks like what it does.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_00: A lot of people still think that's a green screen behind us.
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_01: It is not.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: That is a real wall.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is Darren's actual office.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 30:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_00: Um, anyway, so folks, uh when it comes to Major League Baseball, the honeymoon period is over for this season, AJ.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we're starting to see injury bug uh start to bite players left and right.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_00: And uh one of the most vulnerable ones from last week uh was Tarek Skuball.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's a rough one, man.
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:14
  SPEAKER_00: Terek Skubal uh showed some signs of discomfort.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_00: Uh this was actually back on May 1st against the Atlanta Braves.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_00: So, which is really funny, AJ, because this is what uh cameras caught him like rubbing his elbow and his forearm after um after the pitch, right?
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: And he actually called out the trainers.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: So usually, I mean, I watched the Dodgers do this in 2024, like six times during the season where the pitcher started rubbing his arm, they called the trainer out, and that guy's gone from Tommy John.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like that happened like six times in 2024 for the Dodgers.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_00: So when I saw that, I'm like, oh crap, he's done.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, calls the trainers out, starts rubbing his elbow, he's like, Yeah, something's not right.
• 31:52
  SPEAKER_00: Something's not right, you know?
• 31:54
  SPEAKER_00: And then he's like, let me throw a pitch.
• 31:56
  SPEAKER_00: He throws a pitch, goes, Yeah, I'm fine, guys.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_00: Go back to the dugout.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_00: Sends him back to the dugout, and he continues to pitch.
• 32:02
  SPEAKER_00: Right, striking out the side.
• 32:05
  SPEAKER_00: Unlikely it was the Braves.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: So this was the Braves on May 1st.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_00: Normally, man, they're straight to the they're straight to the training room and being like, let's get some scans done.
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_00: Despite all that, yeah, no matter what, you need to go get this checked.
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, finishes striking out the side after calling out the trainers, which never happens.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, a few days later, uh, during a throwing session, the discomfort level returned.
• 32:28
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, imaging revealed loose bodies in the elbow.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_00: When have we seen that before?
• 32:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it was Edwin Diaz for the doctor.
• 32:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 32:36
  SPEAKER_00: Edwin Diaz.
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_00: Loose bodies.
• 32:38
  SPEAKER_00: Loose bodies in the elbow, which is never a good sign, AJ.
• 32:41
  SPEAKER_00: There's not supposed to be loose bodies in your elbow.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, and it's either bones or cartilage.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: Either one or bad.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: Either one or bad.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it could, you know, so the Detroit Tigers decided uh it was surgery was necessary.
• 32:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, again, like we said, very similar to Edwin Diaz, expected to miss two to three months, assuming there's no ligament damage, dude.
• 32:59
  SPEAKER_00: Contract year, dude.
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_00: Contract year.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_00: Guy was on place for a$400 million contract.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_00: Now, I don't if he comes back and he actually pitches out the rest of the year, you know, and does well, I don't think this impacts him too much.
• 33:11
  SPEAKER_00: But, you know, you already had one Tommy John and now you have a bunch of loose bodies in your elbow, potentially from that surgery.
• 33:17
  SPEAKER_01: You'd think they'd clean that shit out when he was getting his Tommy John surgery.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Well, I think it's just scar tissue after you like get back up to what it starts to like.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_00: I was just kidding.
• 33:25
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, all right.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
• 33:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, clean that stuff up when you're in there.
• 33:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, is there any loose bodies floating around there while you're doing Tommy John?
• 33:31
  SPEAKER_01: Can you get those out too?
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is supposed to be a uh minimally evasive surgery.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um it says, and like the recovery time actually says a minimum of two months, but realistically, like you'll have to get built up again, yeah.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: And and yeah, so that's the thing is like you're not gonna be throwing for two months.
• 33:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then you've got to get out there and get back into game shape, and you know it it happens pretty quickly.
• 33:55
  SPEAKER_01: So nice.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: Um I mean the the rough news for this is the tigers team, period.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I mean, Rhys Olson, Justin Verlander, Jackson Joby, Troy Melton, Craig Mys, those guys are all on the injured list right now, which is Craig Mys.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that what it is?
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Casey.
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have Casey.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_01: I might have auto-corrected it.
• 34:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: First.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's my bad.
• 34:14
  SPEAKER_00: First at Dylan Creese, now Craig Mise.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_00: Did I say Craig?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_00: You say Craig Mise.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's all great.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_00: His name's Casey is Casey Myes.
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I have Casey Mice.
• 34:23
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, I just said the wrong thing, man.
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Casey Mys.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: So um, yeah, those guys are all, I mean, though that's a huge part of their rotation.
• 34:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that those guys were counting on getting quality innings from.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if her launder, you kind of expected him to be hurt.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, he's 462 years old.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: Of course he's gonna be hurt.
• 34:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 34:40
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like the dude's barely alive, let alone healthy.
• 34:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm just I'm not surprised there.
• 34:45
  SPEAKER_00: Casey Mice, that's that's a blow, man, for sure.
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and we'll get into why that's even worse coming down uh down the line when we talk a little bit later.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, man, absolutely.
• 34:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is not good for uh a team that was actually trying to push in the middle to win uh in the last year that they were gonna have Turk Skuball on the roster.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, you know, so yeah, it hurts a lot, man.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_00: But hey, he's not the only one we got to talk about.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_00: Let's talk about uh the MVP on the best player on the best team in baseball.
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_00: First of all, SB equals MVP.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: That's right.
• 35:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 35:16
  SPEAKER_01: Uh my boy Ronald Acuna Jr.
• 35:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um last week was diagnosed with a grade one hamstring strain.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was confirmed by MRI, and uh it was it was serious enough that it wasn't just gonna be a couple of days to get him better, so they had to put him on the 10-day IL.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, he it this is really tough for the Braves, right?
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like this has been a really good team, um, arguably the best team in Major League Baseball.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: And Akuna and Akuna was having a great year health-wise.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: He'd started every single game um up to that point where he had that injury.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: So um, you know, you take him out of right field, the Braves are going to be forced to put Mike Kristremsky out there.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_01: Um, Michael Harris Jr., or Michael Harris the the second was also battling a hamstring injury.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_01: So they've had they've had him moved over into left field, they've got Mauricio Dubon playing center, they've got a bunch of changes that they've got going on, um, you know, subbing guys in and out.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_01: So really tough to lose Akuni out and right.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_01: Um you just hope that he can get back in and stay healthy the rest of the year.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you know, Acuna was that or uh Harris was, you know, when he was battling his hamstring strain, he was actually still DHing.
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: So it wasn't so bad, like he wasn't playing the outfield, but still hitting, actually had two or three game-winning hits um that pulled games around for us.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: So uh you just you just hope that when Akuni comes back, uh he's not battling this one for the rest of the year.
• 36:36
  SPEAKER_01: So me as a Braves fan, I I would much rather him just not do anything for 10 days and come back and uh be healthy and play the rest of the season.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um because as soon as that thing starts going longer, you know how hamstring injuries are, they just linger.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_00: I'm honestly surprised that uh that this is a surprise to anybody.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't have the greatest injury and he played in the WBC, right?
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: In a year that it was notorious for anybody with injury history, they did not let them play, but they let Ronald Lacuna Jr.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: play for some weird reason.
• 37:08
  SPEAKER_01: Some weird reason.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_01: The Braves are like, oh, you're the the highest paid player on the team.
• 37:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you you go.
• 37:14
  SPEAKER_00: You go ahead.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you go ahead, you know, which is fine, but the fact that you know this is probably the best dude you could get given the situation.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_00: If you actually thought Ronald Acunia Jr.
• 37:25
  SPEAKER_00: was gonna make it through this year without getting hurt, right?
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_00: You you're gonna you're like, I don't know what baseball you're watching, but that dude get hurt is and the thing is I think you expect, you know what I mean?
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like this Braves, this Braves lineup's been relatively healthy for these first 35 games.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and on top of that, he isn't exactly the the force of your offense as it's been so far this year.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: No, Maddelson's been playing out of his mind, you know, all these other players are stepping up, and you really Ronald Acunio Jr.
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_00: hasn't really been the guy on that team, right?
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: Recently.
• 37:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't really know.
• 37:53
  SPEAKER_00: This is a great time for this to happen.
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, don't give it 10 days, give it a month, man.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: Let him rest up.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_00: Get healthy, do whatever you can.
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: Can you give you two back-to-back 10 days?
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_01: Or after a 10 day, do they have to go on to a 30-day?
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_01: Put them on both.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: I was just wondering if you can.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: I wasn't sure of the rule.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_00: The Braves have uh not the Braves are happen are fortunate to be playing in the only division where they're the only team with the winning record.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know why you would even rush, wish, uh, or even risk bringing him back.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: They did lose their first series today.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you know.
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: Very first the first series they've lost the whole season.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, which is fine.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, yeah, a team like the Braves, you don't want them peeking now.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_00: So what you want to do is you want to allow this injury to play its roll out, let him get come back healthy, yep, set him down in the minors, let him rehab for a week or two, you know, and let him be the DH down there and just kind of like let them come back naturally.
• 38:43
  SPEAKER_00: You don't want to rush this one, man.
• 38:44
  SPEAKER_00: I just don't think it's worth it.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_01: I totally agree.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't think this really hurts the Braves at all.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_00: Um, because you know, it they're just playing well, and if you're gonna have him go down, now's the time to do it.
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 38:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, and and and as a Braves fan, we're totally good with this.
• 38:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, uh you'd you'd rather sit him for a month now than lose them to the end of the year where you're gonna need him out in the outfield and and also you're gonna need his bat.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, speaking of the Braves, you know who they play this weekend?
• 39:11
  SPEAKER_00: I do not.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_00: They play the Dodgers in LA.
• 39:14
  SPEAKER_00: Do they really?
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: This weekend?
• 39:17
  SPEAKER_00: This weekend.
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_00: Starting they have an off day tomorrow starting next day.
• 39:22
  SPEAKER_00: So Friday.
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_00: They start uh so yeah, the Braves are coming into LA to play the Dodgers.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_00: Speaking of the Dodgers, AJ.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_00: Go Braves.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh speaking of the Dodgers.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_01: You know, AJ, uh We might have to get together this weekend to watch the Braves and Dodgers game.
• 39:39
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna tell the wife.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_00: I like it.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_00: So um, as you as we do, we we are talking about the Dodgers, and we quite regularly do on this channel, AJ.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: We do.
• 39:49
  SPEAKER_00: We do talk a little bit about the Dodgers.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, when you win back-to-back World Series, you win three out of the last six years, and you do something worth talking about, we're you're gonna talk about it, right?
• 39:59
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I keep hearing about how the Dodgers are the most hated team in baseball, right?
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_00: Which is a bit weird when you think about it, AJ.
• 40:06
  SPEAKER_00: It's a little weird, right?
• 40:08
  SPEAKER_00: Because who are you gonna hate on this team?
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_00: Who are you gonna hate?
• 40:11
  SPEAKER_00: Shohei?
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: Nope.
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_00: The nicest player in baseball?
• 40:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Mookie Betts, first ballot Hall of Famers that you said right yes last week.
• 40:18
  SPEAKER_00: He's a class act.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
• 40:20
  SPEAKER_00: Freddie Freeman.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_00: I love Freddie Freeman.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_00: This guy literally tells everybody who gets on first base, hey man, nice hit.
• 40:26
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yoshi.
• 40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yoshi no.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't even speak English.
• 40:31
  SPEAKER_00: You can't be mad at him.
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Bro literally pitched the whole World Series by himself last year.
• 40:37
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna hate him?
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_00: You're gonna hate Blake Snell, the SoundCloud rapper who streams 2K and MLB the show?
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_00: Dave Roberts?
• 40:45
  SPEAKER_00: Like, is he like you gonna hate on Dave Roberts?
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 40:48
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, he was twerking uh against Ice Cube.
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_00: Remember that one in the first World Series?
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: The ultimate players, maybe it is kind of a tough team to hate.
• 40:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, if you're gonna hate the like who are you gonna hate?
• 40:57
  SPEAKER_00: Will Smith?
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, I just hate this team, the stupid Dodgers.
• 41:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Tao.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_00: Teoscar Hernandez.
• 41:04
  SPEAKER_00: No, that dude's always smiling.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_00: One, you know, always super nice to fans.
• 41:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, smiling, super nice to fans, hugging everybody else on the field out there.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, so but uh so there's like really no players to hate on this team.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_00: Until or is there?
• 41:20
  SPEAKER_01: Or is there just in the last couple of weeks, I think.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we have uh good tidings for folks out there that want to hate on the Dodgers.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there is a player for you to hate on the Dodgers, and I think Tammy Price, afraid of the channel, Tammy Price, Dalton Rushing, public enemy number one.
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_00: All right, AJ.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_00: Why don't you run it?
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_01: So after the Dodgers lost to the Rockies, um, Rushing called the Rockies' um swing decisions fishy, saying, I think it's odd that some of those hitters do what they do.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: They go up there and they're on the first pitch that was thrown.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_01: It's a little fishy, but I'll wear it.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_01: So, right there, calling out Rockies hitters for the Rockies.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: The Rockies, saying that they weren't good enough to be running with the which they won that series, didn't they?
• 42:04
  SPEAKER_01: They did.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was a push.
• 42:06
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it was a push.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, still the Rockies got two on the Dodgers.
• 42:10
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, well, a lot of people are getting on the Dodgers right now.
• 42:12
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
• 42:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, another situation.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um, after Rushing tagged out Giants outfielder Jung Hu Lee on a play at the plate, um, Lee fell to the ground, was clearly injured.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_00: Of the wind.
• 42:25
  SPEAKER_00: Coolest nickname in baseball.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: It was caught on camera, you know, just because it's obviously an MLB game and every player is recorded on camera, but rushing shrugged him off saying, F him, and continued walking to the dugout.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, so now on that one, man, like you turn around, you look, you see the guy still on the ground, and he's like shaking off, you know.
• 42:46
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, like clearly shaking up, you just want turn and walk away back to the dugout.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: Does Eddie catcher turn around and go over there and ask how he's doing?
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's just the caught on a hot mic saying something.
• 42:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, yeah, not a good look.
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, not a good look.
• 42:59
  SPEAKER_00: But what happened like in that the next game?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have that?
• 43:02
  SPEAKER_00: What happened in the next game?
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, in the next game, he gets hit by a pitch, right?
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Logan Webb.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for that.
• 43:07
  SPEAKER_01: So so because of that, Logan Webb's like, yeah, nah.
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: Bam, beans him, send him to first.
• 43:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then I'm pretty sure there was a ground ball hit on the next play.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: The next hitter hits a ground ball.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_01: And instead of going to the bag, he chooses to go directly at Giants shortstop Willie Adames.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_01: Adams.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_01: Adams?
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_01: Adamas.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Adamus.
• 43:27
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, that was close, man.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's how it's spelled.
• 43:29
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard it both ways.
• 43:30
  SPEAKER_01: I've heard it both ways.
• 43:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's a that's a prime.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_01: Anyways, um, on a double play ball, he goes directly at him in no way, shape, or form to the bag um to try to take him out, which the giants weren't super fond of.
• 43:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, definitely not.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_00: Definitely not.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_00: So I gotta ask you a question on this one, though.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_00: So he gets bean, right?
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_00: Does he chirp back at the pitcher?
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_00: Does he get in the catcher's face?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: No, not at all.
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_00: No, he knew exactly why they threw at him.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he knew.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was fully aware.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, Okay, I I guess I serve it.
• 43:59
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_00: He goes to first base, he's like, Watch this.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:02
  SPEAKER_00: You know?
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, hold my beer.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta love that, dude.
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_00: You gotta love that.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 44:08
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, but you know, Dalton Rushing uh for Dodgers fans is a bit of breath of fresh air.
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_00: Was that the last example you had, or do you have any?
• 44:16
  SPEAKER_00: I I got one more.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: There was a lip read.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_01: There was a lip reading against the Cubs.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, still watching.
• 44:23
  SPEAKER_01: Greg is great.
• 44:25
  SPEAKER_01: Where uh Miguel Amaya is he there's a ball thrown into the dirt and it bounces in front of him.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_01: Amaya takes off to second, he throws the ball up, he's safe, and he's again seen mouthing fat F after he stole second on a ball.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: So just one more reason.
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's really funny because his uh the batter, I think it was Ian Hap that was in the batter's box.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_00: You could see him going like, What did you just say?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and like in an interview he goes, Oh, yeah, he did say that.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_01: He definitely said that, yeah.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_00: I wish I would have like stood up for my my teammate a little bit better there.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'll just so take aback by know what to say.
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but honestly, in that one, man, like he was more upset of at himself than he was at the player.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_00: He's like, How did that fat you know what steal a base on me?
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's what he was saying.
• 45:12
  SPEAKER_00: He wasn't, you know, and I don't think he really is that fat, to be honest with you.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_01: No, he was definitely not.
• 45:16
  SPEAKER_00: I saw the replay, yeah.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: But just a standard-sized person like playing baseball.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like, there's there's fatter pitchers that go out there than that guy.
• 45:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I just thought that was pretty funny.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_00: But when it comes to as a Dodgers fan, though, let me tell you this from a Dodgers perspective, right?
• 45:28
  SPEAKER_00: Dodgers fan perspective.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Um, in case you didn't notice, you know.
• 45:32
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, wait, we're kind of blocking that.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: Hey, you don't even have any Dodgers fan gear behind you.
• 45:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, I have to do that.
• 45:38
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, it's probably because we're still on Utah Jazz DNA.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_00: Oh my goodness.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 45:42
  SPEAKER_00: Wow, we've been slacking there, AJ.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: Rookies.
• 45:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody said anything either.
• 45:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, thanks for the chat, guys.
• 45:49
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 45:50
  SPEAKER_01: You guys gotta help us hook up our backgrounds or our overlays.
• 45:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, hey, there we go.
• 45:56
  SPEAKER_01: Major League DNA.
• 45:57
  SPEAKER_01: Where's McKinley to meet him?
• 45:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, welcome to Major League DNA.
• 46:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember when McKinley used to comment on, hey guys, you gotta change the background?
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: You didn't change the color, yeah.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
• 46:06
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so as a Dodgers fan man, um he's a breath of fashion, right?
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_00: This is a team full of Boy Scouts, and it's been a while since we've had uh since we've had a guy who can get underneath the other team's skin uh like this, the way this guy does.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_00: I love that when he got plunked, he immediately slid into the second baseman when he was trying to take the bag to break the double play.
• 46:25
  SPEAKER_00: He didn't chirp back to the pitcher, he knew they were throwing at him, and he decided to do something about it.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_00: Every team needs an enforcer type player, and it's been a long time since the Dodgers had one.
• 46:35
  SPEAKER_00: And he's actually hitting this year.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's talking, he's running his mouth, but he's actually performing well.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_00: So is he a rookie?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_00: No, technically no.
• 46:43
  SPEAKER_00: He was brought up, well, Tammy, let me know in the chat if it's different.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_00: But I think he was brought up.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_00: I thought I saw this was his rookie year.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_00: He was brought up to be the backup catcher last year.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 46:55
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know if he started a season or if he was called up.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_00: And I can't remember if Austin Austin Bars was released in the middle of the year or before at the beginning of the season.
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_00: I think I think this isn't his rookie year.
• 47:05
  SPEAKER_00: I think this is his second year.
• 47:06
  SPEAKER_00: Tammy, correct me if in the comments if I'm wrong there.
• 47:09
  SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_00: She said no, he isn't.
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, great.
• 47:12
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Tammy.
• 47:13
  SPEAKER_00: Brandon the channel, Tammy Bryce.
• 47:15
  SPEAKER_00: And also channel legend, Cubs win, as we were just talking about the Cubs.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, man.
• 47:19
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I mean Ronald, uh, not Ronald, yeah.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_00: Um Marcel Azuna was this player for the Cubs for the Braves for a long time.
• 47:28
  SPEAKER_00: Um Chase Utley was that way for the Dodgers.
• 47:31
  SPEAKER_00: I think before that he was that way for the Phillies, just some old school baseball player that isn't mad, wasn't afraid to run his mouth and get underneath the team skin a little bit.
• 47:39
  SPEAKER_00: Kind of the Joe Ingalls of the Dodgers, if you would put it on the case.
• 47:41
  SPEAKER_01: Love Joe Ingalls, yeah.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 47:44
  SPEAKER_00: I just think that's kind of interesting.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_00: Um, so I think it's good for baseball because again, it gives players, uh fans of other teams a chance to, you know, actually hate.
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: Actually hate on somebody.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I think it's healthy.
• 47:57
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I love that.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yes, absolutely.
• 48:00
  SPEAKER_00: You're perfectly right here.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_00: He came up uh middle of the year and sucked.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, he did.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely, he did.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then, yes, you're right, Tammy, right on the channel.
• 48:08
  SPEAKER_00: How do I forget Joe Ingalls?
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Kelly, not Joe Ingalls.
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, not Joe Ingalls, Joe Kelly, Joe Kelly too, though.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: Joe Kelly, too.
• 48:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Joe Ingalls, Joe Kelly, yeah.
• 48:18
  SPEAKER_00: Mariachi Joe himself, uh sticking up his pouty lip and throwing directly at the Houston Astros, like literally at them, uh, which was hilarious.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, we also have a comment here from Greg Hawkins.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Otani is still a lot of people who think that he's guilty of gambling.
• 48:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well, I would like I would really like to see any evidence supporting that whatsoever.
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: But my big thing is is you think the uh you think the FBI didn't investigate it.
• 48:50
  SPEAKER_00: This the FBI, if they had a chance to take down you see what they're doing with Chauncey Billups, you see what they're doing with, you know, all of these guys that are involved in sports betting.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 48:59
  SPEAKER_00: You think they wouldn't have a chance to take down, you know, a foreign player who's the biggest name in baseball, that would do wonders for the FBI to have that kind of collar.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if there was any evidence to support that he was one gambling, you don't think they would wouldn't have gone all over it.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's kind of it's kind of mean it's it's it's it's a lot like the moon landing thing.
• 49:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like people who say the moon landing was faked.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_00: You know, if that was true, you think the Russians would have let us get away with that at all?
• 49:27
  SPEAKER_01: We had this conversation.
• 49:30
  SPEAKER_00: Like honestly, if you were gonna do it, do you think the Russians would have let us get away with it?
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not, right?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: They're like they literally have or uh satellites in orbit over the moon.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: Um, if they were like, oh yeah, there's no landing site down there.
• 49:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hmm, should we say anything?
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_00: Nah, we're good.
• 49:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's just like yeah, I don't know, man.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_00: As far as it goes, man, I think you know, Show Tani, you know, honestly, he's just too busy, man.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_00: All of the bets happened uh when he was either A, like pitching, or B, like in the dugout when he wasn't near his phone, but his interpreter was.
• 50:01
  SPEAKER_00: So was he saying, hey, uh, go ahead and do a parlay on this and this and this while he's game planning for the next inning?
• 50:06
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it doesn't make any sense.
• 50:07
  SPEAKER_01: He was saying it in Japanese, so no one knew what he was saying.
• 50:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and he never betted on baseball.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_00: So even if it was him, it technically wasn't illegal.
• 50:13
  SPEAKER_00: He wouldn't be banned from baseball because he did technically, because his interpreter never bet on baseball.
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_00: So it technically doesn't break any rules.
• 50:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so even if it even if he was, right?
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 50:26
  SPEAKER_00: I just have a hard time with that one.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_00: Um, it says my personal opinion is that if Otani was on their team, they'd be defending him.
• 50:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, true, true.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_00: That might be part of it while I'm defending the heck out of him, too.
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but I don't know, man.
• 50:39
  SPEAKER_01: I just I have a hard time seeing like maybe maybe the FBI, uh maybe the FBI people that were investigating were huge Dodgers fans are like, nah, yeah, exactly.
• 50:47
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's gonna be fine.
• 50:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean happen to be an LA field office, they're massive Dodgers fans.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but if you think about it, like um with the NBA, right?
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_00: Chauncey Bills, all these other players, you can see it, right?
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:00
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Pete Rose, you can see it.
• 51:03
  SPEAKER_00: You can see how that guy was a gambler, right?
• 51:05
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you can see when you see these guys and you see like kind of like the way they are off the field, you can kind of see where they kind of get it.
• 51:12
  SPEAKER_00: Show you Otani, really?
• 51:14
  SPEAKER_00: Like this guy?
• 51:16
  SPEAKER_00: Like I see where when is he gambling?
• 51:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know, like that just doesn't it just doesn't seem like an Otani thing, in my opinion.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_00: I really have a hard time with saying that with that one.
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but anyway, there's a few crazy things I want to talk about when it comes to Major League Baseball that happened over the week, AJ.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 51:30
  SPEAKER_00: Uh first one is gonna be Did you know that every team over last weekend in the NL West was on a four-game losing streak?
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_00: Every team in the NL West, that's a division that has the Dodgers and the Padres in it.
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_00: They clearly weren't playing each other.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_00: No, they clearly weren't.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, which we'll get into that a little bit later.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: But uh so it's you know, that division, four-game losing streak, which is insane.
• 51:59
  SPEAKER_00: I I I thought I saw that.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, there's no way.
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: And I looked it up, sure enough, yeah, absolutely.
• 52:04
  SPEAKER_00: For every team and then pull up the division, and every team's got L4.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: L4 at the minimum.
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: L4, L5, L6.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:10
  SPEAKER_00: Another shocking thing is that the Colorado Rockies are not the last place team in the division.
• 52:14
  SPEAKER_01: No, yeah.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, Jack.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_00: The Rockies don't look as bad as I thought they would.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, they really don't.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_00: They really, really don't.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_00: Um, and here's another crazy thing, AJ.
• 52:24
  SPEAKER_00: There is no team in the NL Central that is below 500.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_01: I would love to know when the last time this happened was.
• 52:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this one's this one's weird.
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_00: This this far into the season, too.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: And how about how about Greg?
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: How about the Cubs leading the way at what 24-12?
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_01: I guess they just lost 24-13, maybe.
• 52:42
  SPEAKER_01: No, he just said the Cubs win.
• 52:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they did win, yeah.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_01: So 25 and 25.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: 25 and 12.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 52:47
  SPEAKER_00: That's awesome.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 52:48
  SPEAKER_00: Cubs leading the way.
• 52:49
  SPEAKER_00: You know what's really funny about that?
• 52:51
  SPEAKER_00: Is that if the the Pirates at 19 and 7 would be in first place of two to the three AL divisions.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_01: Correct.
• 53:00
  SPEAKER_01: That's insane.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: The last place.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: The last place team in the division.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: And here's another crazy thing.
• 53:06
  SPEAKER_00: In the AL Central, there's not a single team above 500.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: Are you serious?
• 53:12
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody in the AL Central Central.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Cleveland.
• 53:16
  SPEAKER_00: Horrible.
• 53:17
  SPEAKER_00: Um the White Sox.
• 53:20
  SPEAKER_00: Double horrible.
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think it gets any better than that from there.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, they're just bad teams.
• 53:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so there's no good teams in the like the I think the Royals are in there too.
• 53:34
  SPEAKER_00: Kansas City Royals.
• 53:35
  SPEAKER_00: That's a little bit surprising.
• 53:36
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, they're not, they weren't supposed to be a horrible team.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_00: No, but yeah, there's not a single team with a winning record in the AL Um Central.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_00: And there is only one team in the NL East that is above 500.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yankees?
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: I said NL.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, they're AL.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'm still working on divisions in baseball.
• 54:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's the Braves.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, NL East.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_00: Every other team has a losing record.
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah, that's that's good.
• 54:11
  SPEAKER_00: That helps you get to 25 wins.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_01: Sure does.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, but if you yeah, well, yeah.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_01: So if you go in that NL.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: They swept the Phillies.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: Phillies are in there.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: They haven't played the Mets yet.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_00: Mets are terrible.
• 54:26
  SPEAKER_01: The LOL Mets.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, exactly.
• 54:29
  SPEAKER_01: I can't remember who else is in that division, but.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's great.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's great.
• 54:33
  SPEAKER_00: Just a lot of crazy things going on in baseball, man, when it comes to that.
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_00: I just thought that was very interesting.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_00: Got a comment from Greg Hawkins.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_00: Say the Cubs just need to bulk up uh some pitching at the deadline, and I think that they'll be a World Series quality team.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_00: Hey, they're running away with their division right now, I think.
• 54:48
  SPEAKER_00: Man, you've got to love it though.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody's winning in that division, too.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody penciled in the Brewers was having that one.
• 54:53
  SPEAKER_00: I wasn't so sure.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_00: I thought eventually they would fall off, and I think that's exactly what's happening.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_00: Braves are great too.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: Great Greg Hawkins.
• 55:00
  SPEAKER_00: You know your audience there on that side of the game.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_00: Thanks, buddy.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Appreciate it.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_00: Go, Braves.
• 55:03
  SPEAKER_00: Cubs are 18 and 3 in their last 21.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_00: That's really, really good.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: That's really, really good.
• 55:10
  SPEAKER_00: Have you noticed that's a baseball thing?
• 55:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like you will go back to when you didn't lose like two in a row.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like out of the last like 21 games or the last out of, you know, like that's very much a baseball thing that we do.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_01: We'll take that stat.
• 55:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I absolutely love it though.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_00: But it's 100% true.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's you can't argue with that stat.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: 18 and 3.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_00: That's insane.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_00: That is insane.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you got anything crazy for us, AJ?
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: I do.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: Did you see the Framber Valdez suspension?
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_00: Do you remember us talking about this guy last year?
• 55:37
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 55:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 55:40
  SPEAKER_00: You want to run this?
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, absolutely.
• 55:41
  SPEAKER_01: So he um Framber Valdez was suspended five games after hitting Trevor Story.
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: Um, it was a game against Boston, and uh Valdez had just given up back-to-back home runs.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: The game was already 7-0 at the time.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_01: And and the Red Sox had just jacked the lead up to 10-2 after those two home runs.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_01: So they were way up, and this is the top of the fourth inning, right?
• 56:03
  SPEAKER_01: So, I mean, it's already a pretty good ass whipping at this point.
• 56:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and he does he throws a high and tight pitch to Trevor Story that goes off of his hand or something.
• 56:15
  SPEAKER_01: Um benches were cleared.
• 56:17
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, the bullpen's come in.
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: Of course, the bullpins come in, right?
• 56:20
  SPEAKER_01: We still we still love this, right?
• 56:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's absolutely useless.
• 56:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like the whole fight's over by the time the bullpins get there.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_01: But I love it.
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you know something cool's happening when you know there's a bunch of pitchers and catchers running down there at half speed.
• 56:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um so uh Valdez didn't up, you know, he kind of defended himself through his translator in a in a post-game interview saying that um it wasn't intentional and that he was just trying to throw strikes after giving up consecutive home runs, and uh went on to say that the ball just came out of his hand funny.
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know.
• 56:52
  SPEAKER_01: What are your thoughts?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, this is for for the Tigers, this is terrible news after just losing Tarek Skubal and and everybody else you mentioned at the beginning of the game.
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody else that I mentioned.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this guy was the guy.
• 57:03
  SPEAKER_00: Keep in mind, you did not want to extend Tarek Skubal on a contract offer, but you're willing to pay this guy the same price that you were arguing Tarek Scuball, the two time Cyango winner, didn't deserve.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but you paid this guy that money, yeah, which is insane to me.
• 57:18
  SPEAKER_00: But no, dude, honestly, if you want to ask me, I just think before the fourth inning even started, he wanted out of the game.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_00: And he knew that if you know, hey, if I plunk a guy, if I just go for this, he's like, I don't want to, he's like, I'm done.
• 57:33
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to, I don't, I'm done.
• 57:34
  SPEAKER_00: Obviously, don't have it.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not pitching well.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's kind of a crybaby.
• 57:38
  SPEAKER_00: We talked about how he threw out his own catcher last year.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yep.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_00: You know, the guy's kind of just a you know what.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, I think he at the time going out there, he's like, dude, I'm already Mike, this is terrible.
• 57:48
  SPEAKER_00: I'm I'm I don't have my stuff, I'm not playing well.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: And after the back-to-back home runs, he's like, dude, I need to add of this game.
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_00: He looked over to the duck, looked over at the thing, looked back at the bullpen, realized no one's coming.
• 57:57
  SPEAKER_00: So he's like, you know what?
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: F it.
• 57:59
  SPEAKER_00: Watch this.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: And he throws so what's crazy though is a five-game suspension of major league baseball for a pitcher.
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: That's like he loses one start.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: You you you you delay one start, one game.
• 58:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he loses one start.
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's it though.
• 58:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't even I think they'll just skip his turn in rotation, honestly.
• 58:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, but I mean, because of losing scuba, they're already throwing bullpen games.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, two, three innings a pitcher.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's okay.
• 58:23
  SPEAKER_01: He can win the World Series doing that.
• 58:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying he can't, I'm just saying when you're when you're down five starting pitchers and then you lose your one quote unquote ace that you still have on the roster for five more games.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_00: Framel Valdez is never an ace, though.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_00: But I'm saying he's the He's the best pitcher you have, the best pitcher they have available.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:43
  SPEAKER_00: Baseball fans out there gotta be careful.
• 58:45
  SPEAKER_00: Too loose with the term ace.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, too loose with a term ace.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: Fair enough.
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: Just like NBA fans are too loose with the term superstar.
• 58:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_00: You know, you have to be like an all-star starter to have that status.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_00: In baseball, you don't have an ace.
• 58:57
  SPEAKER_00: There's only really true like five aces in MLB.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_00: The top five qualifying for the a for the Cy Young, I think, would be considered an ace.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: Okay.
• 59:06
  SPEAKER_00: And whoever your team who is starting opening day on your roster is your team's ace.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_00: Technically, it's not, you know.
• 59:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know, aces come from like the fighter pilots, the flying aces.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Chris Sale's an ace.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: Ace.
• 59:22
  SPEAKER_01: Do we need to argue this?
• 59:24
  SPEAKER_01: That that can be a topic for next week.
• 59:25
  SPEAKER_01: Is Chris Sayle in the top running for an NL Cy Young?
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: The answer is yes.
• 59:30
  SPEAKER_00: He already is a Cy Young winner.
• 59:32
  SPEAKER_01: I I know he's won a Cy Young, but I'm saying this year does he compete for a Cy Young?
• 59:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah, yeah, as he stays healthy, yeah.
• 59:38
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_00: So I I wouldn't put him as your ace though.
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I guess since Strider's coming back.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: He is.
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_00: But if if you had the choice between Chris L and Strider, both healthy, who are you going with?
• 59:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going Strider all day long.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_00: Quadzilla.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, Strider just started in his first one back from his rehab assignment.
• 1:00:00
  SPEAKER_01: Didn't look great.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to, man.
• 1:00:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know, but I mean he looked super dominant in triple A for the Gwinnett Stripers.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I mean like eight strikeouts.
• 1:00:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, you struck handled those triple A players.
• 1:00:13
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely love it.
• 1:00:14
  SPEAKER_00: Jazz Forge uh says in here rhymes with pitch.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: Nice.
• 1:00:18
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about Framel Valdez, absolutely, as a you know what for sure.
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what I really love is that AJ Hinch went on record saying uh he didn't really feel good about supporting his player when he went out there and tried to defend him after what he did.
• 1:00:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, come on, dude.
• 1:00:33
  SPEAKER_00: Do you know who AJ Hinch is?
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:00:35
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, you know what okay, what team did um Fremel Valdez pitch before he was with the Tigers?
• 1:00:42
  SPEAKER_00: The Houston Astros.
• 1:00:43
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, was he really?
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:00:44
  SPEAKER_00: Guess who was the manager of the Houston Astros during the trash can banging scenario?
• 1:00:49
  SPEAKER_00: AJ Hinch.
• 1:00:51
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no way.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_00: So you were willing to manage a team that was doing that for years, cheating and using foreign technology and stuff like not foreign technology, but you know, outside influence, the technology to cheat for two, arguably three years, and you're like, Oh, I broke a TV.
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_00: I I made my point clear.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_00: I broke a TV.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: You were the manager of that team, and you didn't have a problem with it when you were winning World Series and division titles and everything.
• 1:01:14
  SPEAKER_00: But Framel Veldez throws that at somebody because he's being a little, you know what.
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and uh I think it rhymes with pitch.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: And now you have an issue with it.
• 1:01:24
  SPEAKER_00: I just have a problem with AJ Hinch, and anybody who from that team coming out and saying that, that's just rich coming from somebody like that.
• 1:01:30
  SPEAKER_02: I don't know.
• 1:01:31
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• 1:01:47
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• 1:01:49
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• 1:01:53
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• 1:01:55
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• 1:01:56
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