Latest / Bucco Territory: A Pittsburgh Pirates Podcast / Jones and O'Hearn shine, but struggles continue
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- 0:09Speaker 1: What's up, everybody.
- 0:10Speaker 2: Welcome back to another episode of Bucco Territory, presented to
- 0:13Speaker 2: you by the Foul Territory Network. I'm Noahile's joining me
- 0:16Speaker 2: as always is my good palent co host Platinum Ke
- 0:19Speaker 2: aka Mark. Josh will join the show later for his
- 0:22Speaker 2: weekly segment, Jay Hey, Now, he's doing a little traveling
- 0:25Speaker 2: for his birthday, so we already wish them happy birthday,
- 0:30Speaker 2: Happy related birthday. Again, mister Harrison, we.
- 0:33Speaker 1: Got a good show for you today. We're gonna talk
- 0:34Speaker 1: about Jared Jones. Should they have pulled him? Should they
- 0:37Speaker 1: not have pulled him? Who knows? We're gonna talk about it.
- 0:39Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about Carmen Machinski as well. He's good.
- 0:42Speaker 2: Some guys in the starting rotation aren't good. Should they
- 0:45Speaker 2: flip spots or should they maybe just use him like
- 0:47Speaker 2: a really good relief picture should be used. And then
- 0:50Speaker 2: we will round out the show, as I said, with
- 0:52Speaker 2: Josh Harrison's weekly segment, Jay Hey Now, but.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Mark, I'll we got to start off with probably.
- 0:59Speaker 2: I mean, there was a lot of interesting stuff that
- 1:02Speaker 2: took place, so much a historic effort by Ryan O'Hearn,
- 1:06Speaker 2: which we'll talk about later.
- 1:07Speaker 1: In the show, Paul Skeen snapped a losing streak. That
- 1:11Speaker 1: was big.
- 1:13Speaker 2: Mitch Keller continues to struggle Carmen Macginski probably not being
- 1:17Speaker 2: used correctly.
- 1:19Speaker 1: Jake Meyham hit a home run. I mean, everything was
- 1:21Speaker 1: going on, but yeah, yeah, probably the most interesting thing
- 1:26Speaker 1: that happened, aside from maybe O'Hearn. That was pretty crazy.
- 1:29Speaker 2: Jared Jones became the first pitcher in Major League Baseball
- 1:32Speaker 2: to throw six perfect innings, leave a game and not
- 1:36Speaker 2: be the winning pitcher.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Uh what?
- 1:38Speaker 2: Eighteen up eighteen ninety, struck out eight batters. His velocity was,
- 1:43Speaker 2: as he likes to say, fn electric.
- 1:45Speaker 1: He tried his best.
- 1:46Speaker 2: To avoid Don Kelly to get that you know that
- 1:49Speaker 2: that yank from the game, but it happened. Mark, you're
- 1:54Speaker 2: a fan, you know you're you're you're watching this with
- 1:57Speaker 2: your heart on your sleeve. What were you thinking when
- 2:00Speaker 2: that decision was made?
- 2:01Speaker 3: Yeah, initial reaction was, what the hell are we doing?
- 2:05Speaker 3: Why are we pulling this guy with a perfect game.
- 2:07Speaker 3: It's like we just said, the only twenty sometimes that
- 2:11Speaker 3: perfect games have been thrown. You gotta give the guy
- 2:14Speaker 3: a shot, right, And then I took a minute, you know,
- 2:18Speaker 3: cooled down a little bit and realized that, oh, yeah,
- 2:21Speaker 3: this is a guy who is just coming back from
- 2:24Speaker 3: elbow surgery not been stretched out to the length that
- 2:29Speaker 3: it would have required to finish that game. He was
- 2:32Speaker 3: at seventy seven pitches through six, which, yeah, that's really
- 2:34Speaker 3: really good. But for Jared Jones Sanders, that's right at
- 2:39Speaker 3: the upper limit. I could see the argument, maybe send
- 2:43Speaker 3: him back out for one more inning, But at the
- 2:46Speaker 3: same time, is it worth the risk if you know
- 2:49Speaker 3: already that he's not going to go nine? I think
- 2:53Speaker 3: it would have been interesting to see if this was
- 2:55Speaker 3: someone else in the rotation that was perfect through six,
- 3:01Speaker 3: to see how like obviously I think that wouldn't have Yeah,
- 3:03Speaker 3: they would have pulled him, right, So yeah, yeah, it's
- 3:07Speaker 3: just because it's scared. You don't want to hurt him.
- 3:10Speaker 3: I didn't have any issue with it, but it was frustrating,
- 3:13Speaker 3: especially when the very next batter comes up to the
- 3:16Speaker 3: plate and picks up a hit off of Mason Montgomery.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Just the icing on the cake there for that. What
- 3:23Speaker 3: do you think was that the right call there?
- 3:25Speaker 2: By? Don Kelly, it's the boring call. Yeah, it's not
- 3:30Speaker 2: the fun call. But sometimes when you're in charge, you
- 3:33Speaker 2: have to make tough decisions. I think the big takeaway
- 3:37Speaker 2: I have on this decision was was he going to
- 3:40Speaker 2: be going nine innings?
- 3:42Speaker 4: Like?
- 3:42Speaker 1: And he just wasn't. So what they did was getting
- 3:48Speaker 1: ahead of something.
- 3:48Speaker 2: Because if you let him go back out for the
- 3:50Speaker 2: seventh and he throws fifteen more pitches but still has
- 3:54Speaker 2: a perfect game, then it becomes an even bigger thing.
- 3:58Speaker 2: And and if you just knew, like and no scenario
- 4:03Speaker 2: is Jared Jones gonna throw a hundred pitches like he
- 4:07Speaker 2: just he was going to hit one hundred pitches if
- 4:09Speaker 2: you let him throw three more innings. So if that's
- 4:13Speaker 2: the plan, you stick to the plan. You live and
- 4:15Speaker 2: die by the plan. And I hate it. I hate it,
- 4:18Speaker 2: like it's boring. I want to see a perfect game.
- 4:21Speaker 2: Jared Jones deserves that opportunity. But that's the type of
- 4:24Speaker 2: baseball that's being played today, and especially with Jones.
- 4:28Speaker 1: Two things can be true.
- 4:29Speaker 2: It can be the right decision, and it also can
- 4:31Speaker 2: be the frustrating and boring and you know, not old school,
- 4:37Speaker 2: and like, I get why everyone's frustrated by it. And
- 4:39Speaker 2: it's even more frustrating that their bullpen lost than that game, right,
- 4:43Speaker 2: They also didn't score a run, so it couldn't matter,
- 4:46Speaker 2: you know, And it is what it is, like Jared
- 4:50Speaker 2: Jones knows going into pretty much every game how far
- 4:53Speaker 2: of a leash he has, and he probably exceeded that leash.
- 4:56Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 4:56Speaker 3: He mentioned post game he was only supposed to go
- 4:58Speaker 3: five and they let him go sick, so they'd already
- 5:01Speaker 3: let him go one inning more than expected. And I
- 5:04Speaker 3: really liked what Don Kelly said in the post game
- 5:07Speaker 3: after about talking about justifying the decision. He said, our
- 5:11Speaker 3: priority is health, winning and player accomplishments like personal accomplishments,
- 5:16Speaker 3: in that order. And I think that's the right way
- 5:20Speaker 3: to do it, especially because, I mean, we just saw
- 5:23Speaker 3: Andy Rodriguez get hurt. We've seen Connor Griffin get hurt,
- 5:26Speaker 3: we have Spencer Horwitz out, we have on Neil Cruz out.
- 5:29Speaker 3: Injuries are very, very frustrating, a lot more frustrating than
- 5:32Speaker 3: a missed opportunity at a perfect game. I would be
- 5:36Speaker 3: livid if Jerry went out there and then his shoulder, yeah, yeah, something,
- 5:41Speaker 3: I mean, way more so. And you just can't risk
- 5:45Speaker 3: that with how valuable Jared Jones is to this team
- 5:48Speaker 3: right now, especially with as we're going to get into
- 5:50Speaker 3: here soon Mitch Keller's struggles continuing, So I go ahead.
- 5:56Speaker 2: No, I was just gonna say, like again, it sucks.
- 6:00Speaker 2: It sucks that it happened to Jared. It sucks that
- 6:02Speaker 2: the way the game ended. I get it, but that's
- 6:06Speaker 2: just the way it goes. Like yeah, and you know,
- 6:09Speaker 2: odds are I mean odds are he wasn't a gonna
- 6:13Speaker 2: finish the perfect game because just he deserves an opportunity, right,
- 6:17Speaker 2: but there's only been like twenty seven of them ever,
- 6:20Speaker 2: so who knows. But he deserved the opportunity. But at
- 6:23Speaker 2: the end of the day, that extra workload could come
- 6:29Speaker 2: back to bite him, like and everyone will say, oh,
- 6:32Speaker 2: one another twenty pitches who knows?
- 6:35Speaker 1: Who knows? And it could have been fine, It could have.
- 6:38Speaker 2: But I'm a fan of when you have a plan,
- 6:43Speaker 2: especially when you're dealing with an asset like Jared Jones,
- 6:45Speaker 2: which could be so valuable.
- 6:47Speaker 1: He's already dealt with injuries. Just stick to the plan.
- 6:51Speaker 1: Stick to the plan.
- 6:52Speaker 2: If you deviate from this plan, what other plans are
- 6:54Speaker 2: you going to deviate from? And again, I don't expect
- 6:56Speaker 2: a lot of the people listening to this to agree
- 6:58Speaker 2: with me.
- 6:59Speaker 1: It's not it's not fun.
- 7:01Speaker 2: It's not fun, and it resulted in a loss. But
- 7:05Speaker 2: the longer that went on and less and less, there
- 7:08Speaker 2: was something in that plan that said, if he's under
- 7:12Speaker 2: this amount of pitches, he can go the whole game.
- 7:16Speaker 2: If that was a part of the plan, then scratch
- 7:18Speaker 2: everything I've said.
- 7:20Speaker 1: But I don't. I mean, they said he was only
- 7:22Speaker 1: supposed to go five. They let him go further what
- 7:24Speaker 1: he was supposed.
- 7:25Speaker 2: To And so unless you're gonna let him keep going
- 7:28Speaker 2: all the way through, regardless of pitch count or if
- 7:30Speaker 2: it stays under one hundred, whatever, then none of this matters.
- 7:35Speaker 2: You're just you're just pushing it back and making the
- 7:38Speaker 2: moment more frustrating or awkward. And I guess, you know,
- 7:41Speaker 2: maybe if he if he goes out there in the
- 7:43Speaker 2: seventh and allows a single and then you go pull him,
- 7:45Speaker 2: I think a lot of people would have understand or understood.
- 7:48Speaker 2: But it is what it is. It's not why they lost.
- 7:53Speaker 2: And I mean it's at the end of the day,
- 7:56Speaker 2: it's the best Jared Jones.
- 7:57Speaker 3: I was just about to say it. Yeah, it completely
- 8:02Speaker 3: eclipsed how good Jared Jones looked, how efficient he was
- 8:07Speaker 3: pitching the contact when he wanted to, but also getting
- 8:09Speaker 3: a ton of whiffs to get those strikeouts. It just
- 8:13Speaker 3: it looks like early twenty twenty four Jery Jones all
- 8:16Speaker 3: over again. That dominance. That just he felt so in
- 8:20Speaker 3: control of every battery that stepped in the plate. It
- 8:23Speaker 3: felt like he had an advantage before even threw a pitch.
- 8:25Speaker 3: So I love that. I want to see more of it,
- 8:28Speaker 3: and I believe we will, so looking forward to that.
- 8:32Speaker 1: All right, we're gonna take a quick break when we
- 8:33Speaker 1: come back.
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- 9:43Speaker 1: All right. Mark.
- 9:44Speaker 2: Mitch Keller pitched again on Thursday. He lost again on Thursday.
- 9:49Speaker 2: He couldn't get to the fourth inning. It was bad,
- 9:54Speaker 2: high pitch count. He's just not been effective. That's issue
- 9:57Speaker 2: number one. Issue number two is they have a better
- 10:01Speaker 2: starting pitcher right now than Mitch Keller. He's also their
- 10:03Speaker 2: best reliever and then really not using him in either
- 10:06Speaker 2: of those roles. A lot of people are frustrated with
- 10:10Speaker 2: how Krmen Macjinski's season is gone, despite his numbers being
- 10:14Speaker 2: pretty good. He's been one of the more effective relievers
- 10:16Speaker 2: in baseball since they moved him to the bullpen. He
- 10:19Speaker 2: was one of their better starting pitchers while he was
- 10:21Speaker 2: in the starting rotation, but he's not being used in
- 10:24Speaker 2: high leverage.
- 10:27Speaker 1: Let's start there.
- 10:28Speaker 2: Yep. What are your thoughts on how they've used him?
- 10:31Speaker 2: I mean, do you get what they're doing? Do you
- 10:34Speaker 2: have a problem with it? Let me hear what you
- 10:36Speaker 2: have to say.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Yeah, I was perplexed, to put it lightly or nicely,
- 10:41Speaker 3: by bringing Keller in when you're up ten to two.
- 10:45Speaker 3: I didn't understand that, because, yeah, you want to eat
- 10:48Speaker 3: some innings up there, But we have other relievers in
- 10:51Speaker 3: the bullpen that you can burn there that start for
- 10:55Speaker 3: them and go to them instead. And we saw it
- 10:57Speaker 3: like if we could have gone to Karmen Maginsky maybe
- 11:01Speaker 3: instead of Mason Montgomery or something, would Wednesday's game have
- 11:06Speaker 3: gone any differently. And but the fact that Karmen's just
- 11:09Speaker 3: not available for those kind of appearances as like your
- 11:14Speaker 3: normal reliever, it's just it feels like it's hamstringing this
- 11:17Speaker 3: bullpen even more, where you have a guy who's great,
- 11:21Speaker 3: but you can only use him in certain spots or something.
- 11:23Speaker 3: I don't. It's just very very confusing. I didn't agree
- 11:27Speaker 3: with bringing him in on for the skiing start, but yeah,
- 11:32Speaker 3: I mean it's bullpen management's tough. But that was a
- 11:37Speaker 3: weird one for me. What do you think?
- 11:40Speaker 2: I mean, it makes me wonder if they're like intentionally
- 11:42Speaker 2: doing this so he stays stretched out, like they're not
- 11:45Speaker 2: pitching them on back to back days like they don't,
- 11:48Speaker 2: like if there's just an agreement, like hey, and I'm
- 11:51Speaker 2: not insinuating that this is the case. I'm not reporting anything.
- 11:55Speaker 2: It's just more like, you know, we all know he
- 11:57Speaker 2: wants to be a starter. It seems like they're doing
- 12:00Speaker 2: everything they can to keep him in starter shape, either
- 12:04Speaker 2: for when they need a rotation spot to be filled
- 12:08Speaker 2: or if you know, maybe they said they were gonna
- 12:11Speaker 2: move him again, not reporting that, not suggesting that's reality,
- 12:15Speaker 2: just kind of floating that out there, like maybe maybe
- 12:17Speaker 2: that's how this got resolved and they got him to
- 12:19Speaker 2: do his job. Was like it will trade you. It's
- 12:21Speaker 2: just we got to get it done, and so they're
- 12:24Speaker 2: trying to stretch him out, like but other than that,
- 12:26Speaker 2: I don't I don't know the logic behind how they're
- 12:28Speaker 2: using him. Especially like the Skis thing that if you
- 12:32Speaker 2: wanted to get him out there just to get some
- 12:34Speaker 2: run for him, like have him throw one inning, that's fine,
- 12:37Speaker 2: but there's there's just no reason why you're not using
- 12:42Speaker 2: him as a high leverage arm. He's your best right
- 12:44Speaker 2: hander in the bullpen and it's not particularly close.
- 12:47Speaker 1: So and if.
- 12:49Speaker 2: You don't want to use him as a high leverage arm,
- 12:53Speaker 2: then he should be in the bullpen, or he should
- 12:55Speaker 2: be in the rotation, and Mitch Keller should be moved
- 12:58Speaker 2: back to the bullpen.
- 12:59Speaker 1: We're at that point where Carmon Majinsky is just.
- 13:02Speaker 2: Too valuable, valuable of a player to be used in
- 13:06Speaker 2: the way they're using him right now.
- 13:08Speaker 1: It doesn't make a lot of sense.
- 13:09Speaker 2: And maybe they're just waiting till the All Star break
- 13:11Speaker 2: to kind of reshuffle the pieces here.
- 13:14Speaker 1: I would hope that that's.
- 13:15Speaker 2: The case, because again, he's one of the more valuable
- 13:19Speaker 2: pitchers on this staff and this reduced role.
- 13:22Speaker 1: I mean, sometimes when you pitch him in Balk it makes.
- 13:24Speaker 2: Sense like if he would have had him follow Jones,
- 13:27Speaker 2: maybe they could have just thrown a hole exactly.
- 13:30Speaker 3: Yeah, we've seen that before.
- 13:31Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I don't know, it just feels
- 13:36Speaker 2: like they have not really maximized what he can provide
- 13:41Speaker 2: in the bullpen, and so if you're not going to
- 13:44Speaker 2: use him the right way, just make him a starter
- 13:49Speaker 2: because he's better than some of the guys in their rotation.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Yeah. Look at Mitch Keller's last seven starts. He has
- 13:56Speaker 3: a six point six y nine ear a, a one
- 13:59Speaker 3: point sixty three whip and that's in thirty five innings pitch.
- 14:02Speaker 3: He's allowed forty two hits in that stretch along with
- 14:06Speaker 3: fifteen walks. It's just been tough to watch. And I
- 14:12Speaker 3: think I had the exact same thought, where it's like
- 14:14Speaker 3: the All Star break is coming at the perfect time,
- 14:16Speaker 3: not just to get Mitch Keller right, maybe to switch
- 14:19Speaker 3: up these roles and flip flop him and Carmen. I
- 14:23Speaker 3: think it would benefit the team quite a bit. And
- 14:26Speaker 3: I think Mitch is the kind of person and leader
- 14:29Speaker 3: that he'll do whatever is best for this team willingly.
- 14:32Speaker 3: I don't anticipate that being an issue. Keller just puts
- 14:37Speaker 3: his head down and goes to work, So I don't
- 14:40Speaker 3: think that he's gonna have a drama with like going
- 14:42Speaker 3: to the B word or anything that we've seen in
- 14:44Speaker 3: the past, So I mean, maybe he is. That would
- 14:48Speaker 3: be quite digressing.
- 14:49Speaker 1: You just got to tell someone to do it. Yeah,
- 14:51Speaker 1: you know, no one wants.
- 14:53Speaker 2: To be in the bullpen, but at some point you
- 14:56Speaker 2: just got to do it. So I hear everything else
- 14:59Speaker 2: you're saying.
- 14:59Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't mean interrupt.
- 15:01Speaker 2: No, no, no, No one wants to go to the bullpen.
- 15:04Speaker 1: We get it. Someone's got to do it, yep, because
- 15:07Speaker 1: right now you just you don't have your best people in.
- 15:12Speaker 3: And Mitch Keller has a contract. He's not, you know,
- 15:14Speaker 3: in arbitration. He's not having that whole concern hanging over
- 15:19Speaker 3: as cloud where it's like are you a stargut pitcher
- 15:21Speaker 3: or your a leief pitcher. That's probably I think money
- 15:23Speaker 3: is probably the biggest reason why Carmen's so apprehensive about it. Yeah,
- 15:28Speaker 3: so that's not a concern for Keller. But we'll see
- 15:31Speaker 3: after the All Star Game. I don't think anything's going
- 15:33Speaker 3: to really change before then.
- 15:35Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 15:36Speaker 2: So all right, we're gonna take another quick break when
- 15:38Speaker 2: we come back. Jay Hay now our weekly segment with
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- 17:06Speaker 2: Alright?
- 17:06Speaker 7: We're back with our weekly j hay Now segment. This
- 17:09Speaker 7: y this week's segment is gonna actually highlight two players,
- 17:13Speaker 7: and more specifically Ryan O'Hearn and Paul Skeins.
- 17:17Speaker 5: Uh.
- 17:17Speaker 7: First things first, Ryan O'Hearn, big ups to you. Record
- 17:22Speaker 7: for RBIs in the game that was big time, three homers.
- 17:25Speaker 7: One was a grand slam. Kind of hard to not
- 17:28Speaker 7: highlight him with the hay Now segment. And all of
- 17:30Speaker 7: that also came on Paul Skeen's start day, which the
- 17:34Speaker 7: other day Noah said was important to win his two
- 17:36Speaker 7: stars before the All Star break. So that first win
- 17:39Speaker 7: is notched under the belt behind you know, a nice
- 17:42Speaker 7: effort behind, but between Paul and uh Ryan O'Hearn himself.
- 17:47Speaker 7: So uh, my weekly Jay hay Now segment highlights those
- 17:50Speaker 7: two guys. And to finish that off last thing would
- 17:54Speaker 7: be Sunday, Paul wanning a second start against the Brewers.
- 17:58Speaker 7: You got a good chance of finishing home stand three
- 18:00Speaker 7: and three according to know if we go when his
- 18:03Speaker 7: two starts. So we got one under the belt thanks
- 18:05Speaker 7: to Ron o'dhearn, thanks to Paul Skeins. So this week's
- 18:09Speaker 7: Jay hay Now segment, big ups to Paul Skins and
- 18:11Speaker 7: big ups to Ryan O'Hearn and the rest of the
- 18:14Speaker 7: offense that also chipped in throughout this series and this weekend.
- 18:19Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with what he said.
- 18:22Speaker 2: Just to build off of two things though, hearn thing,
- 18:25Speaker 2: I just want to make a quick point that we
- 18:26Speaker 2: could talk more about skins.
- 18:28Speaker 1: O'Hearn's been such a slam dun signing.
- 18:30Speaker 2: And while yes, the value there is obviously what Ryan
- 18:34Speaker 2: O'Hearn's providing at the plate, you know, overall in the clubhouse,
- 18:40Speaker 2: I think another big win for the Pirates is that
- 18:43Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn's success in Pittsburgh shows other free agents, hey,
- 18:48Speaker 2: you can come here and play well, because we hadn't
- 18:50Speaker 2: seen that from a lot of free agents.
- 18:53Speaker 1: Most of the people who came here, they signed here
- 18:55Speaker 1: and they got.
- 18:56Speaker 3: Worse starting picture. That's like a veteran Yeah, yes.
- 19:01Speaker 1: So that could be a big win.
- 19:04Speaker 2: I mean, they still have to pay quality talent. They
- 19:06Speaker 2: have to They made obviously a really big effort to
- 19:08Speaker 2: get O'Hearn, But.
- 19:11Speaker 1: That's such a win. And even in.
- 19:13Speaker 3: The fact that he's going to be in the fact
- 19:15Speaker 3: that he's going to be on this roster as well
- 19:17Speaker 3: next year, I mean that's further encouragement to free agents saying, hey,
- 19:20Speaker 3: you have protection in this lineup. Now you can succeed here.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know they're still not going to be
- 19:26Speaker 2: able to go out and get the one Soto's and
- 19:28Speaker 2: the Choo Tawny's. But players of Ryan O'Hearn's caliber are
- 19:35Speaker 2: proven now to be a in the Pirates price range,
- 19:38Speaker 2: and b makes sense to come here now. So that
- 19:42Speaker 2: should be the the ale of the grocery shore or
- 19:45Speaker 2: store where the Pirates are shopping from here on out.
- 19:49Speaker 2: The last thing that he mentioned though, with schemes, solid
- 19:53Speaker 2: effort from him, got to see it again Sunday.
- 19:57Speaker 1: Like I said the last time, biggest start of.
- 19:58Speaker 2: The year, he'd going keep going go to and oh
- 20:02Speaker 2: head into the All Star Break with so momentum be
- 20:04Speaker 2: eight and eight on the season, have.
- 20:05Speaker 1: An ERA a little lower. Just just beat the Brewers, man, Yeah.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Even if that's the only game they win in this
- 20:14Speaker 2: weekend series. If you end the first half with a
- 20:18Speaker 2: Paul Skeins gem against the Milwaukee Brewers heading into the
- 20:22Speaker 2: All Star Break, people are still gonna believe in this.
- 20:24Speaker 7: Oh yeah.
- 20:25Speaker 2: If people see Paul Skens looking like Paul Skins again,
- 20:28Speaker 2: trending to beat Paul Skins again, even if they're a
- 20:31Speaker 2: game under five hundred, there's still a reason to believe
- 20:35Speaker 2: that they've got a shot if that guy is still
- 20:37Speaker 2: that guy. So that's all I have to say, Mark
- 20:40Speaker 2: anything to add.
- 20:41Speaker 3: Yeah, just whyt to reiterate how awesome of a signing
- 20:45Speaker 3: Ryan or Hernez, and just also mention that nice to
- 20:52Speaker 3: see good old Paul Skins back to the dominant self
- 20:56Speaker 3: that we've seen. I just I really really desperately want
- 21:01Speaker 3: him to just dominate the Brewers. Make Jacob Mazerowski look
- 21:06Speaker 3: like basically what you did last year, you know, like,
- 21:10Speaker 3: why is this kid in the All Star game? Even
- 21:13Speaker 3: and with the bats lining up it was nice last
- 21:16Speaker 3: screen start we had, you know, the ten runs from
- 21:19Speaker 3: O'Hearn obviously, but just please please offense if Skeens does
- 21:25Speaker 3: throw a gem, like, I need to see some runs
- 21:28Speaker 3: because that Jerry Jones perfect Game into no run support
- 21:32Speaker 3: was extremely frustrating, So capitalize on it. And yeah, it's
- 21:37Speaker 3: a massive, massive series.
- 21:40Speaker 1: Absolutely.
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