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Bama Bob recaps College Football, Bill Seals talks Cyclones & Mr. Monday Night presented by Circa Sports · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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Power #2 Millery Condon, welcome back, Iowa Sports Radio Network
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still to come toward the bottom of the hour, we will get Bill
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boys circus. No, no surprise, just packed
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over unbelievable watching some of the crowds, some of the
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on the weekend. Let's recap the weekend in
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college football. Our guy, Bama Bob joins us just
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twice weekly, Friday to preview, for Monday to recap.
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Good to talk to you, Bama. You know where I want to start
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with you gentlemen. Say it, Trent.
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Please no. Please no.
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I want to start. With a with a queue that you
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posed in our little group chat late on Thursday night pointing
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out just what a big weekend potentially it could be for the
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Big 12. And obviously they had a couple
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of wins, but not enough maybe. Your thoughts?
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Well, it's still dependent on what happens.
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Look, if we get 11 and one Utah against 11 and one Iowa State in
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the conference championship game, I feel like they're
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probably in good shape, but potentially depending on what
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else is happening. Or if Mississippi State wins the
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SEC. Or Mississippi State even has a
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nice year in Arizona State's involved.
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You know, if Mississippi State's a bowl team, though, and Arizona
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State's involved attended, it won't look at the same level.
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But if Mississippi State's bad and if West Virginia's like a
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bowl team and yet they lost to Ohio, there's a lot of different
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ways they could go. It wasn't an awful, It wasn't a
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tremendous weekend, positive or negative, But there are a couple
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merits there that could hurt them down there.
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Kansas coughing it up with. A that would have.
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Been what, a huge win. I guess you can say that Blake
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Chapin cut his teeth in the Big 12 Mississippi State's
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quarterbacks, right? So there's that.
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Bama. What did you think of the Big 12
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overall, Bama? Yeah, I thought, I think you're
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right. I think Kansas was the one that
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kind of really, you know, maybe had a chance to make a
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statement. Arizona State loss looks bad
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just because it's Mississippi State and I think Mississippi
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State is better. They're not going to, you know,
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championship game or the playoff, but I think they're
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better. And you're right.
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I mean, Chapin was, he was good and that, you know, Arizona had
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a Arizona State had a bust at the end.
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They came back and took the lead and and then gave it up.
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So that Thompson kid, you know? Yeah, yeah, receiver.
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He's got some wheels, yeah. He does.
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He's like they called him the fastest player in the in the in
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the country. I don't know if that's true or
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not, but really Scoot, that's for sure.
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Yeah, that's what the the broadcasters.
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Yeah, the monitoring system that they have to get miles an hour.
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He was the fastest guy in the country.
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I'll be damned, yeah. Yeah, that's what I thought.
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And so, you know, you don't. It's funny because, you know, I
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watched just the end of that game a little bit and it was the
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classic, you know, they instead of going, they they were playing
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prevent, prevent defense and they were kind of moving on him
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and and they went and, you know, blitzed and played man, and they
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burned them. So everybody who gets
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frustrated, you know, by well, why don't we play prevent, let
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them go all the way down the field?
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Well, maybe that's why right there.
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But it was just a total bust and confusion.
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So I thought that game was entertaining.
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I thought West Virginia, West Virginia really hurt themselves
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not only for losing the game, but I don't know if you heard
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Herb St. on the Michigan, Oklahoma game.
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It cost them a game day spot. That's right, they were going
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to. The Pit, they were going to
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Morgantown for the back of the brawl and now with that loss
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going to Knoxville. So it's, you know, that that was
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a, that was a really big loss, but you know, good win for Ohio.
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So I think it, I think you're right.
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I think it's mixed results. I think Iowa State really kind
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of had to win that game, you know, in order to kind of keep,
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like you said, I think it's Iowa State and Utah pretty much, you
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know, for, for getting 2 spots and two of the three, Arizona
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State, Iowa State and Utah kind of have to run the table or go
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with maybe, maybe meet with one loss in the championship game
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and then maybe the two of them get in.
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But, and it's just really going to depend obviously on what else
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other teams do around the country.
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Is it how many is the ACC going to get in?
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Is Notre Dame going to get in all that type of thing.
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But you know, the other thing about the Big 12 is how, just
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how God awful is Oklahoma State? I mean that that was and it was
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it was. Right from the jump. 69 to 3 and
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it wasn't as close as it looked. No, he.
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Called off the dogs. He did, he did.
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And it was it was. I don't know, Gundy's got real
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problems and there's just nothing happening.
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They're the UCLA of the of the Midwest.
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So mixed bag results. I agree.
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For the big, I like Baylor's win.
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Double overtime. Got to give Soy.
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Robinson some absolutely very nice and that could wind up kind
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of hurting the ACC down the line, although obviously, you
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know, whoever wins that conference is going to get in.
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But that's the kind of thing, you know, SMU got in undefeated
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last year year other than the conference championship game.
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Well, that's not going to happen this year.
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What do you think? Yeah.
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So I don't know that they're going to be in that large team.
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So. But yeah, nice, very nice win
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for Baylor. Absolutely.
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Good point out to you. K State getting beat by Army.
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I'll throw 2 mother two more Big 12 teams in there that I think
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are factors and we don't know yet because I'm playing anybody.
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Texas Tech Yep, and I'd like BYU you like?
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Bareback. Meyer, he's not brutal, not
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brutal. I want to see more in BYU.
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They play Stanford. Oh, Stanford got beat by Hawaii
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in week 1 or week Was that week 0 Big Zero?
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Yeah. Yeah, it was week zero.
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Yeah. Anyways, all right, let's go to
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the let's go to the big 10 kind of jumping all around here in
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non conference games. But Trent, you're you're big 10.
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What was your who's your team of the of the weekend in the big
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10? If there is.
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One I, I think it has to be Illinois and though Duke, I mean
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talk about giving a game away, three first half turnovers, you
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get the ball back. No, you got 2 punt returners or
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two guys on the punt return team wearing the same number.
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You can't do that ball. Ball back to Illinois that was
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eye opening and though it was a close game they pulled away in
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the fourth quarter. Maybe my favorite part about it
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though, big fat Burt on the sideline as he's just trolling
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Manny Diaz. Well, all right, you're going to
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substitute. I'm going to substitute my whole
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defensive line and those big guys are going to come chugging
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in and you're not going to have any time to get a snap off.
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Manny Diaz is pretty even keel guy.
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It felt like he wanted to spit. Neil's the other way over at
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there at Bielema. Look with the shame, Bielema
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snapped. Last year, another nice.
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Guy, another seemingly nice guy Bielema could bring out the
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worst in opposing coaches, no doubt about that That was
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something So what about this is is Boston College good or
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because that was Michigan's that was that was 2 overtimes too yes
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it. Was.
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On NBC any did. You see any of that?
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I did, yeah. I had that one on for that upper
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left TV if my memory services were that one, and it was
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entertaining. I, I really enjoyed that one a
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lot back and forth, not a whole lot of defense.
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I told you guys I think on Friday, I just like O'Brien.
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He's just a good solid, certainly at the collegiate
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level, good coach. How did child's play?
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Inconsistent. Was he?
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But when he's good, he's really good.
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But there were also some awful, awful throws.
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That's that's what you get with Childs.
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You get good Childs, he can beat anybody.
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You get bad, you can lose to anybody.
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Big 10 Bama, obviously Illinois Duke for you as well, right?
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Oh yeah. And I gosh, we tried to tell
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somebody didn't we can on Friday.
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Who's going to win that game? You know, I know and I know
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Coulda, Woulda showed up, you know, 3 turnovers and all that.
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I think that was a really good win for Illinois.
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I think a win they kind of had, you know, had to have if you
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want to, if they're going to be looking at anything down the
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road. They've got, you know, they go
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to, they got Western Michigan, they go to Indiana, they get USC
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at home, Ohio State still on the schedule at home.
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So that's that's a team. I think we talked about it and
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can make some noise. So that was kind of a thought I
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had to have it for them. You know, you mentioned Michigan
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State and and Boston College. That was an entertaining game.
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And I think that was just one of those.
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It's kind of a weird match up, if you will.
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But I think those are both teams that kind of their opponents
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that kind of, you know, mirror each other and are kind of
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playing to their level, if you will.
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You know, they're not, they're not, you know, BC is not going
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to Ohio State and Michigan State's not, you know, going to
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Clemson or anything like that. I think that's a really nice
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game for both of those programs. It was entertaining double
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overtime, as you mentioned. I think that's a really good win
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for Jonathan Smith. I still don't know that they're
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a bowl team this year because they've, you know, they've got a
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lot in front of them. But you know, two of those the
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best you can be. They've got Youngstown State and
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they go to USC that's going to and then Nebraska.
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So those those are, you know, probably going to come back to
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reality type games. But, yeah, I mean, other than
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that, you know, Ohio State, Penn State, Penn State taken a little
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heat, I guess, because it wasn't really a dominating win over
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FIU. But you know, Michigan,
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obviously, you know, the big game of the week losing and then
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Iowa losing to Iowa Stadium. I'm sure you guys have dissected
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that one. But you know, Underwood, he's
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taking some heat, too. And I think a lot of it is, you
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know, what he, what he's reportedly getting paid, what he
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said about himself and. Then getting into his running
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backs face. Yeah, and I didn't like that.
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You know, listen, if if you're, I understand you're the quote UN
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quote leader, but you know, are you?
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You're kind of the anointed leader, if you will.
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I don't know that he's really earned that right yet.
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And listen, I again, you know, I want to sound like Ryan Clark.
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You know, I didn't play the game, so I don't know what I'm
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talking about, but you know, whatever.
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But it's just I don't I don't necessarily like that look.
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And Justice Haynes in Alabama, you know, transfer.
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So, you know, it is what it is. I think there's better ways to
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go at it. You know, you kind of calm down,
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go to the, you know, go to the bench and you talk about it.
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You can disagree fine, but I didn't like that in your face.
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But, you know, Underwood's taking some heat and I think
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it's maybe deserved. He didn't play terrible.
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He didn't have a lot of rounding, but he got out play by
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material. There's no question.
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I think right now, and I was going to save this for once we
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get to the SEC, but I guess it's kind of go just real quick.
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UCLA brutal, I mean. Just came.
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Back. Had had the ball late with the
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chance to tie it, but yeah, that's so bad.
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They better beat New Mexico this week, right?
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Right. Well, then they get Northwest
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Mexico. Yeah, I was.
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Wondering that schedule, Ken and I wouldn't talk about it, but
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how many people do you think are going to be in a Rose Bowl for a
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7:00 PM local kick on a Friday night in LA against New Mexico
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That's. When that game is.
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Yes, it is a Friday night Big 10 network 7:00 PM local.
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Kick all the traffic. You know how many people you are
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going to bother showing up in LA on a Friday night for that?
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Well, I'll tell you where I'm going to be.
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I'm going to be watching that. There's two Big 12 tilts going
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on. Real conference games too.
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Well, one of them is. I don't think the K state game
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is, is it? I think I.
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Think you might be right. I think, but it's 2 conference
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2. Yeah, 2 conference teams, yes,
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yeah. The other one of course is is
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Colorado and Houston. So that'll that'll be good.
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I didn't. Yeah, I'm looking at right now
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New Mexico at at UCLA. Good God.
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All right, so let's go. To the let's go.
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To the SCC. I'll, I'll start with you,
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Trent. Yeah, I think John Matier, is he
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the Heisman favorite this morning?
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Oh, probably the place to put him.
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Still a. Lot of work to be done, Sure,
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yes. But with what he's done,
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reclamating the offense after the issues that they saw as he's
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a good kid, yeah. I mean, he's like, he's one of
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those quarterback like, hey, he's king.
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Could he survive? And he's got a hideous throwing
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motion. I mean, it looks like Bernie
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Kozar with the side on crap, but it's effective, no doubt about
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it. I, I think that's a good
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question. My other take away that I had
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down from the SEC was something I just want to go with Bama.
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All right, 73 nothing for Bama. That's not going to cure.
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Anything. That's not going to cure
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anything. Perfect for Ty Simpson as he
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doesn't have an incompletion of the game.
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But all right, you get a week to dissect, to look back, and now
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you look forward. What is the temperature down
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there in Alabama? I don't think anybody is
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necessarily impressed with that. They're they're trying to some
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people are trying to spin it, you know, the 17 for 17, you
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know, the hey, Nick David never scored 73 points in his tenure
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here. You know, he could have.
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He just chose not to on several occasions.
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You know, there's there's the parallel because you remember
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Louisiana Monroe is the team that came in and Saban's first
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year came into Bryant Denny as he was kind of, you know,
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working through the trash that Mike Jewell left and won the
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game. So there's but listen, nobody
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here is really impressed and I don't think anybody's going to
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be terribly impressed if they, you know, handle Wisconsin this
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week, which I think they should. Everybody, everybody knows
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they've got Wisconsin this week. Better opponent, not as good as
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Florida State, better than a lot of Monroe.
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Then they got to buy a week and then, oh goodness, looky there
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they go to Athens. Now they're hoping to get, you
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know, GM Miller back and Keenan and some some really important
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pieces that they could have used.
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I think the overall impression, the effort was better, the focus
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was better. Obviously the execution was
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better than against Florida State.
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But I don't think anybody's really buying in to this based
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off the score he did. It's interesting because he did
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play all three quarterbacks in this game and he played a couple
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of them early. He says that was communicated to
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Simpson during the week. So you know that regardless of
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the score, he was going to play all three early.
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And he did. But yeah, it's I don't think
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anybody's really if if anybody is really making a bunch out of
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this, then I think I think they're foolish.
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And I think most Alabama fans know where the meat of this
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schedule really is. And that's when they get into
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conference play. And right now they're not going
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to be favored at Georgia. And I'll look out well.
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Both of Georgia's starting cornerbacks are out, though.
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That's why the numbers got in half this week.
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Tennessee opened at 7 and sound to 3 1/2.
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Yeah, and Tennessee is another team that, you know, with
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Aguilar, who's, you know, they now, you know, they beat
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Syracuse in Week 1 and then, you know, was it East?
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East Tennessee. Yeah.
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So I mean that's, you know, not. Snuck by him 72 to 17.
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Yeah, I mean, look, you'd rather you'd rather beat Josh Heiple
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than Billy Napier today. I think this is for sure but and
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that. Hey, South.
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Florida is good, give golds credit.
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Well, I was just saying, I mean, I put in a little text thing.
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Is the AAC more relevant than the I think, I think this
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conference is relevant guys, because South Florida, right,
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They've already beaten Boise. Here's what I hope doesn't
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happen. I think Florida is about to
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spiral, OK, because you look at this schedule, they go to my,
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they go to LSU, they go to Miami, they got an open day.
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They host Texas, they go to A&M, they host Mississippi State.
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That doesn't look easy. All of a sudden they've got
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Georgia, they go to Ole Miss, they have Tennessee and Florida
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State. That is as bad as it gets.
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That is a four win schedule right there.
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So what what I hope doesn't happen to South Florida.
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I hope they don't all of a sudden at the end of the year,
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they're like, well, that winner wasn't anything.
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Look how bad Florida. I hope that doesn't happen.
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But they go to Miami this week and if they could somehow make
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some noise down there. They are front and center in my
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opinion, in the in in the group of five conversation.
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And but right there is Tulane goes Tulane goes to Duke.
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This our host Duke this week. I'm sorry.
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They get Duke at home and then they go to Ole Miss.
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They don't play each other. These two teams don't play each
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other in regular season. So but both play Memphis.
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So I think the AAC has got some juice this year and I think it's
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those three teams. So.
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But you know, South Florida is really good.
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They're a lot better than people think.
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I think we should have learned that from the Boise game.
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Anybody who, you know, took Florida to cover 17 1/2 this
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week needs their head examined. But that was that was a good win
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down there. And you know, Florida again,
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though, some penalties, if you look at that, that last drive,
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you know, they had a chance to run some clock.
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He threw, he threw 2 passes and a run play.
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You know, there's another spitting penalty that you know
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that that got you know what is up with this?
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I mean, just stupid. I mean, come on, you know, that
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gave them 15 yards and you know, South Florida basically ran the
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last four minutes off the clock and kicked a chip shot.
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You'll go to win it in the swamp so.
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You mentioned pressure, you mentioned the ACC I mean,
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Clemson was night and day to beat.
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Troy had to come back. 16 Three. Unbelievable.
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Looked like they were going to be beat.
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Nader's are restless there. So it's just real quick,
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Virginia Tech or Vanderbilt, I guess we can finish our SCC.
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What? What?
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What is this more telling that Virginia Tech is really bad and
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the seat might be getting hot there.
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Or Diego Pava's done it again. The one you want that one.
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I'll take, I'll take probably I think this, listen, we saw it
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last year. Why do we think it's going to
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change this year, right? You know, they beat Alabama.
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They gave Texas all they wanted in Nashville.
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And this isn't what your Vanderbilt, OK?
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This is, I don't care how good or bad Virgin Tech wins.
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This is an ACC win on the road for them.
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OK, So however you want to spend that, you know, you talk about
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Virginia Tech, but we're talking again about Vanderbilt.
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That's a good win for them. I'm telling you guys, they're
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going to they're going to beat somebody.
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I think again this year, you always worry with them about
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death, right? You know, if they get obviously
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if the quarterback gets hurt, I think they've got no shot at
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some of these games. But if they go to South Carolina
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this week, that's I like, I really like South Carolina, but
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I think that's going to be a better game than people think.
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They got to go to Alabama, they got to go to Texas, they got to
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go to Tennessee. So, you know, the schedule's not
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doing them any favors this year. All those home games they got
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last year flipping. But I really, I like, I love
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Clark Lee or their coach. I've just and I love the
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quarterback. They might be South Carolina
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this week. I think it'll, yeah.
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I don't know what the spread is, but I would be.
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I'm tempted to take the points maybe.
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Yeah, I'm with you. All right.
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The last thing for both of you? Best team in college football.
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Trent is oh boy. Best team in college football is
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Ohio State I guess. OK best team in college football
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Bama is. Man, you just pulling these from
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nowhere here. I would, I wouldn't lean Ohio
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State, but I I might throw Oregon in there too.
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Oregon was I know that Oklahoma State is terrible, I get it
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right. But but they're they're really,
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really good in my opinion. I think A-Team like, you know,
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LSU, we've still got to see, right?
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Yeah. I.
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Think they're in the I think they're in the conversation.
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I agree and I'm interested to see what they do with Florida
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this week because that's. You know that's prime time,
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right? Yeah, it is.
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Yes, I believe that is correct. So is you Mass in Iowa, by the
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way. Good.
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Oh, good for you. Yeah.
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Get another TV teddy. DVR right there baby.
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That's that's a Sunday morning special, isn't?
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It. But yeah, I I know though it's,
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it's hard to tell, but it's, it's really hard to go against
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Ohio State. That's just they're just that
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good. Oregon impressed me.
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Oregon impressed me. Yeah.
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Moore's good. We'll see.
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Bam. We got to run, brother.
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We'll talk to you on Friday. Thank you buddy.
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Take care guys, good to. Talk to you, Bama.
19:27
Bob Trent and I are recapping the week in college.
19:30
Football a Week 3 proves to be much better.
19:33
Yeah, except for the Big 10. And short of that Alabama,
19:35
Wisconsin game, take a look at the rest of the Big 10 slate in
19:38
front of me here. Well, you mentioned Indiana,
19:40
Indiana State, that Friday night affair with UCLA against New
19:44
Mexico, IOU Mass Marilyn Townsend, We got a conference
19:49
game. Who the Ducks go to?
19:52
Northwestern. And you know what?
19:53
You know who's there? You know where they Big Noon
19:55
kickoff? Is that Northwestern?
19:57
Makes sense. Big Noon Kickoff Nebraska
20:00
welcomes in Houston, Christian Oh God Michigan, Central
20:04
Michigan, Ohio State, Ohio. Rutgers, Norfolk State.
20:09
Good God. Penn State Villanova but
20:12
basketball matchup Another conference matchup USC goes to
20:16
Purdue Michigan State Youngstown, Illinois Western
20:20
Michigan There's gotta be 1 Minnesota at.
20:23
Cal, there you go with the quarterback with a long name,
20:26
the hyphenated name. What?
20:27
How do you Is he a freshman? Yes.
20:30
Yes, that's a good game trip. What time is that?
20:33
One that is late night. You will not see the end of
20:35
that. You'll see the start.
20:37
You'll see the start. Yeah.
20:38
I'll let you know how it goes. What's the kid's name?
20:41
Good God, he's got three names and it's a long, long name.
20:43
His first? Name type is around his number.
20:45
It does. Jeron something.
20:46
Jeron, Kuwait. Segapoliti nailed it.
20:53
Yeah, a lot of points. Scrabble points right there.
20:55
Bill Seals next on Cyhawk, Miller and Condon on the Iowa
20:58
Sports Radio Network. Hi, Mory Condon, welcome back
21:08
Iowa Sports Radio Network. We're with you until the top of
21:12
the hour. Trans plays of the day.
21:14
Mr. Monday night still to come. Let's get the Bill Seals.
21:17
He was in the press box. Jack Tri Stadium for Psy Hawk.
21:21
We've got document stick. Let's get Bill Seals as he joins
21:25
us. Bill Trenton Kent, thank you for
21:27
coming on. Good to talk to you.
21:28
Bill, how are you? I'm doing great guys.
21:30
How are you doing this lovely Monday afternoon?
21:33
Absolutely couldn't be better, no doubt about it.
21:36
Well, let's get into what we saw this past weekend, Bill.
21:39
Here's my concern when it comes to Iowa State.
21:43
And it's the running game and they're going to need a running
21:46
game. I think Sam and Hanson, both
21:48
nice players. I love Hanson's toughness.
21:51
Sam has got the breakaway speed. I'm concerned about their
21:54
ability to run the ball. Bill, is that being unfair?
21:59
Well, I think that some, some folks would agree with you on
22:03
that. The offensive line, they've
22:06
graded out relatively well. I think in the pass block
22:10
category. They didn't give up a sack
22:12
against Iowa on Saturday. I thought that was a a good sign
22:17
for that group. However, I mean, as you, you
22:20
mentioned, Kenny, it has been a, a struggle for this group to run
22:23
the ball from time to time. They, you know, they didn't
22:26
really get that going on a consistent, they started off
22:30
really well and then I I think that maybe once Iowa got a
22:34
little read on that and they adjusted, they took that away.
22:38
So yeah, that is going to be a concern I think going forward.
22:42
And and maybe a Trevor Borer, once he comes back, maybe he
22:46
bolsters that unit a little bit, but still no sign on on when
22:50
we'll see him. No doubt that the defense came
22:53
to play once again. And we know about Dom Orange,
22:56
we've talked a ton about him. Marcus Deal continues to turn
22:59
heads. You mentioned PFF, he was the
23:01
top rated guy on that defense. He was outstanding in so many
23:05
different ways. Not just what he does coming up
23:07
and supporting, you know, against the run game, but good
23:10
in coverage. He just does a little bit of
23:12
everything. Take us back to the story of
23:14
Marcus Neal, kind of how he got to Iowa State and and just what
23:17
an incredible find he was. Well, that is a that is a pretty
23:21
awesome story, Trent. I think we're going to dig into
23:24
that probably a little bit with Campbell tomorrow as Neil will
23:28
be one of the players that we get during tomorrow's media
23:32
availability. And I did cover his recruitment
23:35
from the very start. And it, it's a very interesting
23:38
story because a lot of his tape, his first like 3 years of high
23:44
school were at wide receiver. Now Iowa State, I don't think
23:48
was totally sold on him playing that position.
23:51
They got a little bit that things kind of slowed down.
23:54
Maybe six months or so. He had taken all the visits like
23:57
his junior year, things slowed down a little bit.
24:00
You thought maybe he, well, he had an offer, but you thought
24:03
maybe he wasn't going to be a tape in the long run.
24:06
But Iowa State staff got some tape on him playing defense
24:11
early on in his senior year and and I think what they saw on
24:15
tape was the potential and we've seen him deliver on that very
24:19
early in his career. So guess as they say, the rest
24:22
is history. They got that senior year tape,
24:25
offered him a reoffered him I think to play on the defensive
24:28
side and there you go. Tamatoa McDonough was noticeable
24:34
to say the very least, getting into the backfield.
24:36
Getting to Gronowski, I thought by far his best game.
24:39
He hasn't only played only three, but McDonough sure picked
24:43
a a good time for him to play his best game as a Cyclone.
24:47
And obviously Haycock and company want to see him to
24:50
continue to make steps, but he certainly took some big ones
24:53
this past weekend. Yeah, he got a lot of attention
24:56
that that last drive of Iowa's, rightfully so.
24:59
He had two sacks and two straight plays.
25:01
But even before that, he had a couple of tackles for lost.
25:05
He was a force in the run game, I think even before that final
25:10
possession, also registered a quarterback hurry, had five
25:14
tackles on the day, one of the leaders there.
25:17
And you know, in that 335 defense, you don't see those 3
25:20
lineman leading them in tackles very often.
25:23
But I think that gives an idea the impact he had on that game
25:27
Saturday. And Campbell talked a little bit
25:29
about that in the post game as well, about how when you you go
25:33
to an Ivy League school, it was the same thing they encountered
25:36
with Jalen Travis as well. You got to go that full last
25:40
season there to get your degree to graduate.
25:43
So that entailed going a spring semester to Yale, wasn't able to
25:48
join the Iowa State program really until the summer and then
25:51
really ramp things up. And I think he's one that moving
25:54
forward, forward, you're going to see him make even bigger
25:58
splash plays and important games the the Cyclones are going to
26:01
play in conference. You know, coming into the year,
26:03
Bill, we talked a lot during the offseason with all these
26:06
linebackers, all these guys with experience and kind of how
26:09
you're going to figure out the rotation.
26:11
It feels like it's going to be Caleb, Bacon, Cooper, Evil and
26:14
then kind of filling in the gaps have have Bacon and Evil
26:17
separated themselves from the rest of the pack.
26:21
Yeah, I think so. You know, Brazina, I think it is
26:24
going to be a factor in there as well.
26:27
They're still kind of unsettled, though, I think at that Sam
26:30
linebacker position that remains in flux.
26:34
I believe Will McDonald only played like 8 or 9 snaps in that
26:39
game against Iowa, if my memory serves me correctly.
26:42
I would have figured he would have had a bigger role.
26:45
You know, the, you know, the other outside backer, Bo, good
26:51
one, had that pass an interference penalty earlier in
26:54
the game. Didn't grade out particularly
26:57
well. But he, I believe he played
26:58
about twice the amount of snaps as McDonald did.
27:02
So it'll be interesting to see. You probably won't see.
27:04
You'll see a number of guys, I would imagine play against
27:07
Arkansas State this week. They'll get into the bye week
27:10
and then I think as they face Arizona that last Saturday and
27:14
in September, you might kind of see these rotations become a
27:18
little more established and kind of what they want to do moving
27:21
forward. You guys mentioned grading out.
27:23
That's Pro Football Focus is that we're getting these things.
27:26
How did Trey Bell do? Because every time I watch Iowa
27:29
State play, Trey Bell makes a play seemingly.
27:31
How did he grade out? Because he made a couple.
27:33
Of this last week. You know, he did really, he was
27:37
he was an encouraging player in in that game.
27:41
And as as we've seen Iowa State, the way they want to play with
27:44
those cornerbacks, they're not it's not just going to be two
27:48
guys on the field. And last year they had three or
27:50
four. This year has the makings of
27:53
three, maybe 4 if if Quentin Taylor makes a bigger impact
27:58
moving forward. But yet Trey Bell played 22
28:01
snaps in that game. They played 65 as a team.
28:04
So about 1/3 of the plays he was in there.
28:09
I think one thing really encouraging about him is his
28:12
tackling ability as well. They asked those DBS to come up
28:17
and tackle in space and you have to to play in that 335 and that
28:21
was where Bell graded out the best was in tackling a 73.5 SA.
28:28
Good sign there that he's tackling in space.
28:30
And I think the coverage as he learns the defense and gets more
28:34
reps on Saturdays, that's going to get even better as well.
28:37
Got to see Chase Soul his first extended playing time play 26
28:41
snaps in the game. I had a tough catch show over on
28:43
the side that a defensive back broke up, but is this going to
28:47
be kind of part of the plan now? I know he missed some time
28:49
during camp, but it feels like he's going to be a piece of this
28:52
offense going forward. Or are the training wheels
28:54
coming off for the East Carolina transfer?
28:57
Yeah, I think so as you as you mentioned kind of was the
29:02
development there stalled a little bit just with the injury
29:05
that they that the injuries or not real clear what those have
29:08
been. They don't cover those as much.
29:11
But yeah, since the spring and then even into a fall camp, I
29:14
think limited a little bit with that.
29:16
But really you you look at Jayden Higgins as well.
29:19
This is the comparison that the coaches have made, too.
29:21
He kind of faced similar growing pains early in his first season
29:26
at Iowa State. And then, you know, we all know
29:29
what he amounted to by the time things were over.
29:31
And I think the potential is always there for so well, he's
29:35
he's trending in the right direction as well with those 26
29:40
snaps against a very good defense in Iowa.
29:43
I think he's getting gaining the trust of that coaching staff to
29:47
put him out there even more. And it's going to be a very
29:50
competitive situation though, too, because I don't see S
29:53
Gilson going anywhere overby. It's kind of been up and down
29:57
with him. He had the big first game,
29:59
disappeared in Game 2, played about the same and number of
30:03
snaps so well and in the the third game.
30:07
So it's going to be a very competitive situation moving
30:10
forward with those outside wide receivers.
30:12
Is there anybody in that, that position that's that's hurt that
30:16
hasn't been able to see the field yet?
30:17
Bill, because I'm with you on Overby's inconsistency.
30:20
Who drives you nuts? Townsend and Sohel look like
30:23
they're going to be, you know, is they more experienced?
30:26
They'll get better. I'm with you on Eskelsen.
30:28
Is there any wide receiver that maybe he might be waiting for
30:32
his opportunity that is yet to? Come well.
30:35
We've been waiting on Eli Green for a few years now.
30:38
He did get in for 18 snaps against Iowa, just has not
30:43
really established himself just yet.
30:46
But I think inside with Xavier Townsend, that's a good that's a
30:50
pretty good situation I think for the the staff with two
30:54
established slot guys. Green had played that put most
30:58
of his production has come at the FCS, but he's getting some
31:02
opportunities, 18 snaps. Carson Brown didn't play against
31:07
Iowa as well. So not sure if that was coach's
31:10
decision type of thing or if there's an injury going on with
31:14
him. But yeah, I mean that that seems
31:16
to be the guys that we've mentioned.
31:19
I think that's going to be the group here this season.
31:22
Bill, you've watched a lot of quarterbacks play and, and
31:25
Rocco, boy, he's just so cool under pressure.
31:27
And it's something that a little bit different than the guy, the
31:30
couple, couple quarterbacks before him, Brock Purdy, what
31:33
sometimes he would fall into that pressure.
31:35
Doesn't feel like you can never rattle Rocco back, that he's
31:37
just so locked in. What is it about him, you know,
31:40
is it his background, who his dad is, that kind of thing?
31:42
But he just seems unflappable out there.
31:45
Yeah, I think you're on to something there with just the
31:48
way he grew up with his dad being a high level player in the
31:52
NFL. And yeah, I mean that that just
31:55
from the very start it seems like he's been he's been poised
32:00
out there on on the field and he got some opportunities early in
32:04
his career to play a little bit. I think that served him well
32:08
once he got out there as a full time starter, was kind of thrust
32:11
into it and, and and handled it handled it pretty well though.
32:15
So I, I thought, and yeah, two years in now, 2 full years in
32:20
now over 3000 yards passing. And gosh, from what we've seen
32:24
so far, the numbers weren't great against Iowa, but I think
32:29
again, you look at the intangibles and how many of
32:32
those what was it about 62,000 ish at Jack Trice Stadium on
32:38
Saturday when Iowa State got the ball with what 6 1/2 minutes
32:43
left to go and the the game, what it was a score, what it was
32:47
and how many of those were confident in what Rocco and that
32:51
offense we're about to do. And now I'm sure enough they did
32:54
it. He engineered a little bit of
32:56
that, got him in in position for that can already turned out to
33:00
be game-winning field goal. It was as he knocks it in for
33:04
the second straight year from 54 yards away.
33:07
Iowa State now sits at 3 and O. And here's one more tricky spot
33:11
before the bye week. You go to Arkansas State.
33:14
Now they're blown out by the Razorbacks over the weekend, but
33:16
still weird road trip. We remember the weird road trip
33:20
a couple years back that didn't go very well as they went out to
33:22
Ohio. What do you know about the Red
33:25
Wolves and what Iowa State's going to see coming up on
33:27
Saturday afternoon about it? A lot on on the this segment is
33:33
mobile or mobile quarterbacks has kind of hurt this defense a
33:37
little bit in the past. We saw it a little bit a little
33:40
bit from Gronowski in that in that game, he was able to to
33:44
turn some of those losses into gains with his feet.
33:49
They that the Cyclones did do a pretty good job, though, I felt
33:52
against Avery Johnson in that Week 0 game.
33:54
I think he only had about 21. But in the past, I think just a
33:58
byproduct of that 335 defenses every now and then if you've got
34:02
mobile quarterbacks, they can make make something out of
34:05
nothing. Jalen Rayner the the QB one for
34:09
the red Wolf see that happens to be the Hyatt well, by a good
34:12
margin, the highest graded player according to PFF for the
34:16
the red wolves just over 78 grade on offense.
34:20
So he's pretty close to elite. And for that level, I think
34:24
that's moving forward in the in the conference they're in, he's
34:28
going to be a player that gets a lot of headlines at that level.
34:32
So he's going to be someone to contend with.
34:35
They've got also got a couple of offensive lineman, I think
34:38
pretty decent couple wide receivers.
34:41
Jalen Benelli, I think he was a transfer portal edition Hunter
34:45
Summers. So yeah, the skill players
34:48
there, I think that that's those are guys that the the defensive
34:52
staff's going to be honed in on. Then you look to the defensive
34:56
side of the ball, a couple of those interior defensive lineman
35:00
also graded out pretty well. So again, that could that could
35:03
pose some problems to this run game.
35:05
I think the Cyclones in contest like this, they're going to try
35:09
and get that established, but the Red Wolves pretty good up
35:12
the middle. Also, Terry Kirksey, the inside
35:15
linebacker, he is making plays all over the field over a 90
35:20
grade and run defense. So again, this is a game where
35:24
Iowa State going to be tested on that offensive line to open up
35:28
holes rushing the ball. Bill Seals.
35:31
You can see it all at cyclonereport.com, part of the
35:34
Rivals Network. Bill, out of time for today.
35:36
Appreciate it as always and we will talk to you again next
35:40
week. Looking forward to it.
35:42
Have a good week guys. Yep.
35:43
Thanks, Bill. Bill joining us here as he does
35:45
each and every Monday with a look back at Iowa State and what
35:48
we saw over the weekend. Final time out.
35:51
We come back Mr. Monday Night ready to go.
35:54
First play of the season for Mr. Monday Night and it is important
35:58
one Vikings, bears and a chance to chase the top spot with the
36:03
Packers already off to A1 and O start my pick.
36:06
When we come back, it's Miller and Condon on the Iowa Sports
36:08
Radio Network. There it is.
36:11
The music is Monday Night Football is back.
36:16
Bears, Vikings, a battle in the NFC North, a battle at the
36:22
Condon household. Hillary kind of back with you
36:25
one final time. Kenny had to duck out a little
36:27
bit earlier as he's heading over to Prairie Meadows.
36:30
A race call in happening for him here this afternoon.
36:33
So it's me for the final minute of the show and Mr. Monday
36:37
night, brought to you by Circus Sports.
36:38
Give me the Vikings. Gross.
36:44
I love the Bears in this spot all offseason long, but once it
36:47
gets to it, I just can't believe the most inept organization.
36:50
Well, the most one of the most inept organizations out there.
36:54
I'm going to take the Vikings, lay the 1 1/2, play the under in
36:57
this game and also couple of fun props.
36:59
I'm playing any time. Touchdown score.
37:02
How about Adam Thielen back in the purple?
37:06
We're going to grab him half unit on that 1 + 390.
37:09
Same with Courtland Loveland. I just have a little bit of fun
37:12
on that one. Reds and Cubs in baseball for
37:14
me. A six pack a place for you, Mr.
37:17
Monday night. Hope he's wrong.
37:20
That'll do it for today. Coming up next, it's off the
37:22
bench. Sean and Lucas got you covered.
37:24
Take you up till 5. This is Miller and Condon talk
37:26
to you tomorrow.