Latest / The Bull Brotherhood / S02Ep23 - Black Cucks are here to Stay
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- 0:00I'll pay like a companion for those type of like
- 0:05interactions and dynamics. Or I have, you know,
- 0:10watched female friends of mine, you know, have
- 0:17sex with their partners. And, you know, like
- 0:24I've definitely tasted. you know like a cream
- 0:27pie but not like absolutely why the bull is in
- 0:31the room you know it was uh once my female friend
- 0:35got back and you know we just played around and
- 0:38you know she showed me the videos and you know
- 0:43we have some fun with it This podcast contains
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- 2:35Let's go. Good evening, ladies and gentlemen,
- 2:51and welcome to another exciting episode of the
- 2:54Bull Brotherhood Podcast. I'm Brian Morgan, one
- 2:57third of your podcast team, also known as the
- 3:00Sigma Male, the Long Wolf himself. Coming at
- 3:03you again with another invigorating podcast tonight
- 3:06with the family, the lovely Siren. How you doing?
- 3:10I'm doing good, Brian. How are you? I'm doing
- 3:14great. I'm great. Ladies and gentlemen, she represents
- 3:17the Cyber and Freedom podcast. And of course,
- 3:19the brother from another mother, my nephew, Socrates.
- 3:23What's good? What's good, y 'all? What's good?
- 3:31Always sounding good. Ladies and gentlemen, we
- 3:34have a gentleman with us tonight. He is representing
- 3:38the cuckold world. And for me, It is one of the
- 3:43first times that I can honestly say that I am
- 3:46going to be able to talk to and interview an
- 3:51African American male who is in the cuckold world.
- 3:57I've dealt with some stags in my 30 plus years
- 4:01of doing this, but really never have gotten a
- 4:03chance to really speak to a cuckold. He goes
- 4:07by the name of The Cook Next Door. But for tonight,
- 4:11we're going to call him CND for short. Where
- 4:15you hail from, CND? What's home? Thank you. Thank
- 4:19you for having me on this podcast, everyone.
- 4:23Nice to meet you. And I'm from New Jersey, so
- 4:27East Coast. Born and raised. Okay. 42. 42 years
- 4:34old? Yeah. yeah all right all right then how
- 4:38long you been in this wonderful world of ours
- 4:40have you lived in this lifestyle um i'd say maybe
- 4:46it's 2026 now so maybe around 2016 15 i kind
- 5:00of like started really uh you know taking it
- 5:04a lot more serious and identifying with it and
- 5:07you know really leaning into that uh identity
- 5:11you know now did you did you first start off
- 5:17as a bull and then went over to the cook of the
- 5:21world or you were just you just knew that you
- 5:23identified as a cook immediately well you know
- 5:28it's just um You know, for me, I think it was
- 5:32just always kind of like being into the interracial
- 5:37dynamic. And I feel like, you know, you watch
- 5:44enough porn or whatever. I feel like, you know,
- 5:49you eventually go down that rabbit hole and you
- 5:52get into like cuckolding, you know. You know,
- 5:56if you watch enough videos. you know as you know
- 6:00as you're younger or whatever you know you just
- 6:03you just stumble upon it and then uh you know
- 6:07fast forward i met this uh girl on x and uh it
- 6:13was twitter back then and like we were like real
- 6:16cool you know um and it was like kind of it was
- 6:20just virtual and we were friends for a long time
- 6:24and then like eventually like one day i just
- 6:28was like hey you know like i want to be your
- 6:31cuck or whatever you know and um she was just
- 6:36super into it you know we never we never got
- 6:40to meet in person but It got really deep. She
- 6:47would allow me to listen to her have sex over
- 6:50the phone, some racial humiliation type of play,
- 6:57kind of like sending her gifts, just the whole
- 7:03adoration of a woman, like spoiling her, all
- 7:07that type of stuff. you know we would get like
- 7:11really into it she was sending videos like i
- 7:13said um and we would just like play around and
- 7:18then uh after that you know i started seeing
- 7:23companions and you know um you know escorts campaign
- 7:28um and you know we would kind of like role play
- 7:33different like cuckold situations you know in
- 7:38with a sex worker you could really you know you
- 7:41could kind of like really explore you know um
- 7:45and like push boundaries a little bit in a respectful
- 7:49you know consensual way of course and um you
- 7:55know i just always love you know growing up thinking
- 7:59about it you know talking to women i would just
- 8:02love hearing their like sexual stories you know
- 8:05i would ask about you know just like they're
- 8:08just just being inquisitive you know not like
- 8:11you know trying to scold them in any type of
- 8:15way you know just like being like really curious
- 8:19and being really intrigued about you know a woman's
- 8:23sexuality and um yeah so that's kind of like
- 8:29you know my my journey into cocoa then but you
- 8:34know i also really enjoy like fucking too i'm
- 8:38not like a cuck that's wants to not like have
- 8:41sex or whatever you know like i enjoy the tea
- 8:46i enjoy the teas in denial absolutely you know
- 8:50but I eventually want to get in that pussy and
- 8:55tear it up as well. No, I'm just being honest.
- 9:00You know what I mean? And I feel like as a black
- 9:05cuck, I feel like I'm unique in that way. I feel
- 9:09like black cucks are fun to play with in that
- 9:14type of dynamic. You have your sissy cucks. There's
- 9:18all different types of cucks. But, you know,
- 9:23I definitely really love worship in that, that
- 9:28woman's like that, that power, that femininity
- 9:31power, you know, I just like get a rush from
- 9:35it, you know, just like the size queens, the
- 9:40queen of spades, you know. just just how how
- 9:44a woman's confidence builds and spills not just
- 9:48in the bedroom but outside of the lifestyle so
- 9:51you know like when she's you know at work or
- 9:55you know just in her friend's circle you know
- 9:58she just becomes like i don't know how to explain
- 10:02it you know it's just a glow like she's you know
- 10:05she just radiates you know that that energy just
- 10:09expounds and um you know, it's just a, it's a
- 10:14beautiful sight to see, um, that female power,
- 10:19you know, in that type of dynamic, you know,
- 10:21in the, in the cuckolding dynamic, you know,
- 10:23the woman has like so much power, which is like
- 10:28really fun, fun to me, you know, which I get
- 10:32a kick out of. Socrates, I know you're dying
- 10:38to ask a question. I know you fucking dying to
- 10:43ask a question. I can see your ass through the
- 10:46phone. Go ahead. I know you want to talk. Well,
- 10:51let's do this first before I ask a question.
- 10:55Siren, as a cuck sitter, how would you feel cuck
- 11:03sitting a black cuck considering your love for
- 11:07the chocolate kings of the world? you know what
- 11:10does that is that a different feeling and nothing
- 11:13against or for my brother right here i'm just
- 11:16wondering like how do you what's the feelings
- 11:19you get when you're like okay if a wife asked
- 11:23me to cuck sit or he asked me to cuck sit and
- 11:26he's black how would you feel about that well
- 11:29i've already dominated black men so but not in
- 11:32the cuck sitting room and so i just want to make
- 11:35sure that that's you know Because it is definitely
- 11:39a switch for me to dominate a black man. I just
- 11:43make sure, okay, this is what you really want.
- 11:46You really want me to kick you in the balls while
- 11:47you fuck my friend. All right. I got you. So
- 11:51as long as I know that they're deriving pleasure
- 11:53from it, I don't care what color they are. If
- 11:55they ask me to do something, I'll do it. As long
- 11:58as I know that they're deriving pleasure from
- 12:00it. Like, I love borrowing the wife's power.
- 12:02So I don't care about the race. It would probably
- 12:04make it even... more fun for me because you know
- 12:08i just love interacting with black men period
- 12:10the the most so whatever role they choosing as
- 12:13long as they're choosing it and they're giving
- 12:16me consent i'm right there mr six nine when he
- 12:20gets back to town he wants me to dominate him
- 12:22so and that's somebody i never thought would
- 12:24ask me so you just never know you never know
- 12:28what people are wanting yeah yeah so um thanks
- 12:31thanks for that uh cnd let me do that but my
- 12:35first uh question i have several so if you want
- 12:38to jump in between them but my first question
- 12:40is uh are you do you when you're in scene are
- 12:44you caged um i've never experienced chastity
- 12:49okay um i wouldn't mind it though i wouldn't
- 12:52mind it it seems like a fun you know challenge
- 12:55to explore you know from the cooks who i've talked
- 12:59to um you know, it seems like a fun mental, you
- 13:05know, challenge. But, you know, you know, some
- 13:11cucks are locked up, you know, for a very long
- 13:15time, you know, like an extended period of time.
- 13:18Yeah, you know, I wouldn't, I don't think I would
- 13:21enjoy that. But, you know, maybe like a couple
- 13:24weeks or something like that, it seems like it'd
- 13:26be fun to go through that challenge. you know
- 13:32and be reminded you know uh of just that feeling
- 13:36of being locked you know a woman tapping on your
- 13:39uh tapping on your cage with her freshly nails
- 13:42done you know that clicking sound you know um
- 13:46it does definitely you know really seem like
- 13:52fun to uh go down that dynamic but i haven't
- 13:55experienced it though let me know i volunteer
- 13:58as tribute to put you in a cage and have my freshly
- 14:01done nails to tap on that cage i had definitely
- 14:04enjoyed flicking a cage or two with the wife's
- 14:06permission just when we're out and about like
- 14:09i was a cuck was driving me and michael c somewhere
- 14:13and he was missing his turns on purpose because
- 14:18he knew it irritated me and i would punish him
- 14:22then so i told his wife and then i kept flicking
- 14:25his cage when no one was looking in in public
- 14:28so there's definitely fun aspects to the caging
- 14:32for everyone and i like how you know some ladies
- 14:37they'll be bent over you know when they're cuck
- 14:41their cucks balls are resting on their ass while
- 14:44it's caged up you know So you definitely thought
- 14:49about all the scenarios, huh? Yeah, for sure.
- 14:53You know, I'm really big on the visuals. Are
- 14:59you in a relationship at this point? No, I'm
- 15:06single. Okay. How do those interactions operate?
- 15:11Do you do like single women? who are looking
- 15:17for cucks find you and then say hey my you know
- 15:20i'm gonna do this with the bull or you seek them
- 15:22out how does that process work um yeah so usually
- 15:27you know i just kind of like i'll pay like a
- 15:30companion for those type of like interactions
- 15:35and in dynamics or i i have you know um watch
- 15:41female friends of mine you know um have sex with
- 15:47their partners. And, you know, like I've definitely
- 15:53tasted, you know, like a cream pie, but not like
- 15:57actually why the bull is in the room. You know,
- 16:01it was once my female friend got back and, you
- 16:05know, we just played around and, you know, she
- 16:08showed me the videos and, you know, we have some
- 16:13fun with it, you know. So. Okay. Okay. And so
- 16:23go ahead. No, I was just going to say, so you
- 16:28have really, you have really, you really dove
- 16:32into the waters. Like I'm going to say deep,
- 16:35you know, I'm listening to yourself and I can
- 16:39tell that like. This is not, I mean, you're not
- 16:42just, you're not just talking. This is what you
- 16:44live. This is what you live. You know what I
- 16:47mean? You are a true cuck. You are a true cuckold.
- 16:51Pussy getting a knife. You are a damn cuckold
- 16:54first and foremost. I mean, you know, you are,
- 17:00you are. What else? What else? I mean, what else
- 17:05have you done? I'm like, like how far? Oh, okay.
- 17:07So like, like, like I've, I've, um, i've done
- 17:10pegging i think that's real fun um you know i
- 17:18did like a little bit of like public humiliation
- 17:20at uh like at this art fair um in new york uh
- 17:26actually like uh was in uh in march no may last
- 17:31may yup last may that passed um a woman she hadn't
- 17:36collared in the you know walked around this art
- 17:39show she wanted to have the she wanted to have
- 17:42the leash too but I wasn't willing to go that
- 17:45far but you know she definitely we were walking
- 17:47around with the collarbone and you know just
- 17:51having a that was my first time even doing something
- 17:53like that but you know it was just something
- 17:55to you know kind of experience you know and just
- 17:59people like looking at you you know in a weird
- 18:02kind of way you know Well, maybe they weren't,
- 18:06but it kind of seemed like it was, you know.
- 18:09But it was really fun, you know. What else? What
- 18:16else? What else? Yeah, I'm really into pegging
- 18:19now. Pegging is fun. Giving or receiving? A woman
- 18:27pegging me. You know, I like a woman, like, pissing
- 18:30on me. That's fun. So what would you say if someone
- 18:36was to want to put together an entire weekend
- 18:40for you and make all of your cuck fantasies come
- 18:46true? Oh, you know, I'd definitely be down, you
- 18:54know, but for me, it's kind of like I'm not really
- 18:58into like interactions like the bull. you know
- 19:03um it's just more about like the female like
- 19:10power dynamic and how she just like takes sexuality
- 19:14into her like own hands you know it kind of makes
- 19:18you like want to worship but then it also makes
- 19:22you just want to like you know hit them you know
- 19:25go crazy inside the pussy as well too you know
- 19:29like especially in the hot wife you know Oh,
- 19:33I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh, no. So would like, you
- 19:35know, I just kind of wanted to paint a picture.
- 19:37So it's like some hot wife were to fly into town,
- 19:42usurp her power over you for the day. In all
- 19:46kinds of different ways that you would enjoy.
- 19:49And then later on, you would get to tear up the
- 19:53pussy. Is that kind of your ideal scenario? Is
- 19:57that what I'm hearing? Yeah, for sure. I think,
- 20:02I think we might know some people. Brian, do
- 20:08you know, Brian, do you know anyone that might
- 20:11want to do that? Okay, go ahead. Um, CND, what,
- 20:19what, what type of like physically, what, what
- 20:22do you look for in your women? Um, No, um, let
- 20:31me see, like, uh, I like petite women, fit women,
- 20:37you know, the slim fix, um, you know, maybe like
- 20:42a small BBW, um, you know, kind of in that, more
- 20:48in that realm, you know, kind of like, like I
- 20:50said, small BBW, slim fix, you know, fit, athletic.
- 20:56you know, milk type bodies, you know. So you
- 21:01got about three different types right there.
- 21:03You got about three different types. So let's
- 21:08just say we could hook up one fit body, one thicker,
- 21:14but still, you know, what you like. And you said
- 21:20a smaller version or a shorter version in statue
- 21:24of a BBW? um you know like when i say bb like
- 21:29a small bbw let me think of us um let me think
- 21:33who would be like a small bbw uh i can't even
- 21:42think right now but yeah yeah it definitely sounds
- 21:46good what you just described here definitely
- 21:49sound like something okay so three so three different
- 21:52body types three different body types and probably
- 21:55each one of them brings something specialized
- 21:59to the table something that they specialize into
- 22:02the table maybe one likes to like is a you know
- 22:06she loves the pig the other one she knows how
- 22:08to do the humiliation if you cage and then etc
- 22:13you know what i'm talking about so i'm not like
- 22:17i'm not like huge on like cbt You know, like
- 22:22maybe like real light, like, you know, like maybe
- 22:27like a light tap on the balls or something like
- 22:29that. Okay. Nothing too crazy. Okay. I'm not
- 22:34big in like BDSM. Okay, cool. I'm not big into
- 22:38like BDSM. Yeah, the BDSM world. Okay. Not a
- 22:41problem. Yeah, I'm more like, you know, oral
- 22:44worship, you know. having a woman piss on my
- 22:48face you know or in my mouth um you know pegging
- 22:54uh this one this one when we got played she had
- 22:59a i think it's called a magic wand something
- 23:02like that you know you know we were playing around
- 23:06with that um so yeah i just like to have i just
- 23:11like to have fun with it you know good dude You
- 23:15do. Sounds like you're well -versed. Sounds like
- 23:21you're well -versed in the world. Definitely.
- 23:26Oh, yeah. I had more questions, of course. You
- 23:32know, I've been to like some lifestyle events.
- 23:36I'm not like really a big like, you know, club
- 23:40person. so you know like i'm on this uh website
- 23:45called sls yeah swing life swing lifestyle yeah
- 23:50yeah yep so i've attended a few events you know
- 23:53through there um here on the east coast it's
- 23:57been there every single night you can find something
- 24:00to get into um so it's really uh it's really
- 24:04plentiful out here but um the the few that i
- 24:08went to you know i just didn't find the type
- 24:12of women that I was attracted to. I'm not saying
- 24:16that there weren't pretty women there, but in
- 24:20the interracial dynamic I found there, there's
- 24:24a lot more Black men than actual couples and
- 24:31single women. And the women that were there playing,
- 24:38each time it seemed like they were already in
- 24:41communication prior. You know what I mean? And
- 24:45they just met up at the party and they were like,
- 24:46you know, they were already in communication.
- 24:49They were like, we're just going to go to this
- 24:50party and get it going. You know what I mean?
- 24:53Yeah, the little cliques that I don't like. So,
- 24:56not saying that I didn't have a good time, you
- 24:59know, but, you know, they were experiences. And
- 25:05on SLS, it just seems like it's more, like, couple
- 25:09-focused. You know, couples looking for other
- 25:14couples and, like, unicorns. But, you know, I
- 25:20had my hits on there. I've definitely met up
- 25:22with people on there and had a good time. But,
- 25:26yeah, I'm sorry. Go ahead, Socrates. You said
- 25:30you had some more questions. No, brother, keep
- 25:32rolling. We're enjoying you. Yeah. So are you,
- 25:40how are you feeling about the future for yourself?
- 25:43Are you looking to be married and just like have
- 25:46that woman be your cuckoldress and y 'all, you
- 25:49know, right off to the sunset of cucktopia or
- 25:52do you, are you looking to just like, I'm just
- 25:56enjoying this. I can just really. you know spend
- 25:59some time with some awesome beautiful hot wives
- 26:01that i get to bang out afterwards and then i
- 26:03get my needs met like which what what's um what's
- 26:07your ideal future look like yeah um socrates
- 26:12you know i'll just go with the flow um like when
- 26:19i have like my like i'll see a companion maybe
- 26:21like twice a year you know and um You know, that's
- 26:26where, like, the opinion will come in. It's like
- 26:28some public humiliation and, you know, the water
- 26:32sports and the race play and all that. So, you
- 26:40know, it's not something that I feel like I need
- 26:42all the time. You know, and I've dated, you know,
- 26:49like, I've had long -term relationships. And
- 26:54most of the women I do date, you know, are pretty
- 26:56like, they come across like, you know, they're
- 27:00not like super like kinky or, you know, they're
- 27:04just more like real feminine, like girly girls,
- 27:07you know, for the most part. But, but yes, like,
- 27:15yeah, I just like go with, I just go with the
- 27:18flow. You know, if I meet somebody and If they're
- 27:23into it, then, hey, we could get it in. If they're
- 27:26not, then, it really doesn't, like, bother me,
- 27:29you know. I could definitely, like, man, it's
- 27:32not like I need to be in a cuckolding dynamic
- 27:35or it's not like I need to be pegged, you know.
- 27:37Like, I just, like, my pegging experience, like,
- 27:43I just, I wanted to experience it. Like, I didn't
- 27:45have anybody in my life that I felt. you know
- 27:50that i could ask you know like a woman you know
- 27:52that i was involved with that was like into that
- 27:55type of so i was like i'm gonna just go i'm gonna
- 27:59just go have a pegging day you know like a with
- 28:01a companion and um it was like super fun you
- 28:05know and um it wasn't just pegging like i've
- 28:09never seen just like a pro dom you know what
- 28:11i mean like because Like I said, I'm getting
- 28:14paid. That should make my dick hard. And now
- 28:16I'm ready for me to bounce on his dick, girl.
- 28:19You know what I mean? I'm ready to have some
- 28:24fun, too. And not too long ago was my last date
- 28:30in May. I felt like I kind of like blew the girl's
- 28:33mind, you know, like I was, I was, we had a,
- 28:37it was my first time trying caviar. So I was
- 28:40like doing caviar off her strap on, you know,
- 28:43just having like, just having like fun with it,
- 28:51you know. So yeah, we had a really good time,
- 28:55you know, she just put her. her dildo inside
- 28:59the glass of champagne and i'm sucking it off
- 29:01her strap on you know um yeah just having a good
- 29:06time just having a good time um but the same
- 29:11thing you know like after that i'm ready to now
- 29:15get in that girl so um it was crazy you know
- 29:22like um i've just never had like You know, I've
- 29:26just never been into that, like a situation where
- 29:29a couple like reached out and was like, hey,
- 29:32you want to join, you know, my wife and I or
- 29:35my partner and I. I know there's like Splash
- 29:40and everything like that, you know. But I don't
- 29:46know for like Splash, can single men have their
- 29:48own one? I've always heard. I've always heard,
- 29:52you know, it's like a couple guys always in a
- 29:55room. I've never heard a single man have their
- 29:58own room. You just have to pay the payable price.
- 30:01Oh, sorry, Brian, go ahead. Yeah, you have to
- 30:04pay the couple's price. But yeah, I get my own
- 30:08room every time. Oh, okay, yeah. I get my own
- 30:11room every time, yeah. Yeah, I feel more, you
- 30:14know, I'm just like a private person, you know.
- 30:17You want your privacy, dude. Yeah, you're talking
- 30:21to one right here who wants his privacy, you
- 30:24know? So when I get you in the room, we can do
- 30:27whatever the fuck you want to do. You know, I
- 30:29leave all the playrooms really for the others.
- 30:35You know, I might walk in and see what's going
- 30:37on, but, you know, if there's time today, I'll
- 30:39lay it down. I'll probably lay it down in either
- 30:42their room or mine. Yeah, yeah, that's how I
- 30:45always felt too, right? especially like i'm i'm
- 30:48like real big on hygiene too you know so and
- 30:52that's another thing like about like play parties
- 30:54too i feel like a lot of people weren't like
- 30:57that hygienic you know i came with like a book
- 30:59bag full of um like toiletries and everything
- 31:02you know some people come in in there just just
- 31:06a neck in their pants and shirt on their back
- 31:08you know yeah yeah so it's like you know And
- 31:14then when you go to the bathrooms at some of
- 31:16these hotel takeovers, after a while, you know,
- 31:18there's towels all over the place. You know,
- 31:20everybody doesn't use the fresh towels. And it
- 31:23just becomes, the bathrooms just become a mess,
- 31:27you know, like a college storm after a while.
- 31:31You know, that's a good point. That's a good
- 31:34point because Siren and I take pride in our whole
- 31:38bags. And we're like. Sometimes I'm down to the
- 31:43bare minimum, but now I just went up to a big
- 31:45go -bag, like everything. It's like towels, wipes,
- 31:48lubes, rubbers, a little hand towel to wipe myself
- 31:53down, and some Listerine to rinse out between
- 31:58partners. We take pride of it, and I didn't notice
- 32:03it until you brought it up. I'm starting to see
- 32:06the hold bags and the go bags a little small,
- 32:10you know, or some not even at all. And you're
- 32:13right. I'm not judging nobody. I'm just saying
- 32:15I did notice that. Yeah, that was, like, one
- 32:21of the main things that, like, stuck out to me,
- 32:23like, the first time I went. You know, it was
- 32:26just, like, it's not that many people, you know,
- 32:30with, like, bags, you know, besides the women,
- 32:34you know, that come in. you know they come to
- 32:36change they got a couple outfits you know such
- 32:39and such so that's understandable but i think
- 32:43yeah and let me answer this cmb um have you run
- 32:53into a lot of other african african -american
- 32:56uh uh males who are considered cuckoo or have
- 33:01the you know particular kinks that you do Um,
- 33:05you know, I have seen a lot on X, you know, um,
- 33:11I have seen a lot on X and, uh, you know, some
- 33:17of them are showing their face and doing their
- 33:20thing with, you know, black, with black women,
- 33:23you know, black hot wives and black cooks doing
- 33:26their thing. Um, you know, there's a lot of,
- 33:31uh, Yeah, I do. I do just see it. I see a lot
- 33:36of them out there. Black guys just, you know,
- 33:40they just tap into that submissive role a little
- 33:43bit more, you know. Some like her being, you
- 33:46know, 100 % pussy free and, you know, some black
- 33:52cucks are into black women with white guys. You
- 33:56know what I mean? That's a whole different type
- 33:59of dynamic, you know. I've actually played with
- 34:08a black woman who actually prefers white men
- 34:15and that's an interesting type of dynamic that
- 34:20we had. It was kind of like trying to see how
- 34:27her mind worked around. you know those type of
- 34:32racial dynamics so that was pretty fun as well
- 34:36so i kind of just like that i can't oh my back
- 34:42go ahead no go ahead brother keep going so i
- 34:48can keep like keep going um now you know i just
- 34:52like to have uh like just like to explore you
- 34:55know whatever like piques my interest or that
- 34:59i think may be fun sexually you know like i may
- 35:03just i may just like tap into it you know um
- 35:08since there's like so many different providers
- 35:10out there that can you know facilitate those
- 35:15those fantasies or you know those kinks or whatever
- 35:20so um yeah That's what's up. So there are a lot
- 35:28of brothers out there that are, you know, they
- 35:31down and they let everybody know they're down.
- 35:34Okay. Good deal. Good deal. Like I said, I'm
- 35:37learning here, man, because you really are, you
- 35:40are the first, you are the first really black
- 35:45cuckold that I've ever interviewed or, you know,
- 35:48dealt with. So I'm learning. That's why I want
- 35:51you to tell the whole story, tell your whole
- 35:54origin, you know. And Socrates, I don't know,
- 35:58I know you like to study, you know, listen to
- 36:00the podcast and all that. I kind of want to know
- 36:03how you feel about this. I kind of feel like,
- 36:05you know, kind of like the hip hop culture, you
- 36:10know, rap music is, you know, kind of makes like,
- 36:16talks like to black men as their cucks. You know
- 36:19what I mean? It's like, I'll take your girl.
- 36:24we'll go to the club and you know we'll we'll
- 36:28drink thousand dollars worth of champagne and
- 36:31i'm gonna take her to the hotel and you know
- 36:34i'm gonna do xyz and i'm gonna just send her
- 36:37back to you you know what i mean um you know
- 36:42it's been what 30 years of that type of music
- 36:44you you follow so um like just the the degradation
- 36:50you know of uh in the rap music, you know, black
- 36:56men towards, you know, other black men that way,
- 36:59you know, or in the women, you know, as well.
- 37:03It just always kind of like, you know, like stood
- 37:06out to me. I don't know, because I've heard you
- 37:09talk about the P. Diddy thing and all that, you
- 37:11know, on here. So I was just wondering if you
- 37:16had any thoughts on that or if you thought about
- 37:20that. Well, thank you for listening, brother.
- 37:24We appreciate it. And also thank you for paying
- 37:26attention. Yes, brother. I have lots of thoughts
- 37:29on that shit. As I said on there, I'm a hip hop
- 37:37child, man. I was 11, 10 years old when my man
- 37:42said, listen to this and put Run DMC on. And,
- 37:46you know, I grew up listening to Sugar Hill Gang,
- 37:51you know, so. I have been a part of the culture.
- 37:54I was 13, rapping on local TV with a rap group
- 37:59called IRS. I don't even remember what that,
- 38:01Ill Rhyme Sayers. That's what it was. Ill Rhyme
- 38:04Sayers. I've been in the nightclub business,
- 38:08all that. So to say yes, 100%. But you, brother,
- 38:11pointed out something that I never thought about,
- 38:14but God damn, you're right. Yes, because you
- 38:18know why? Me and... Brian Moore, I was going
- 38:22to talk about this earlier. I was raised by a
- 38:25long line of pimps, pushers, and dealers, brother.
- 38:29I don't think of that side. So you're right.
- 38:33I was thinking of the guy that I'm like, well,
- 38:37I don't really want to take your bitch, but I
- 38:39can. I have. I've done it for petty reasons and
- 38:42revenge and, you know, because I got bullied.
- 38:45I've done it for all kinds of reasons. And I
- 38:48never thought of the guy. as but something sad
- 38:53and pitiful and that's almost a shame i'm that's
- 38:56not the way to look at it but that's what i did
- 38:58i was like i come from a long line of pimps and
- 39:02drug dealers and and alpha men and i'm like i
- 39:07just realized i have never sat there and thought
- 39:10of the guy that is at home like i think of biggie
- 39:14smalls when he was like um he's taught uh and
- 39:23i jam not in your miss a beat she now i can't
- 39:26i can't remember the lyrics but he was just like
- 39:28you're at home driving a hyundai and i got her
- 39:30in this car and you're you're you know you're
- 39:34at home paying bills and i'm fucking the shit
- 39:36out of her and then i send them back to your
- 39:38house and that is like like you said that's been
- 39:40going on for the longest time and i had no problem
- 39:44with that because that's how every drug dealer
- 39:46and pimp talked you know like It was there in
- 39:50the 70s. It just wasn't rapped about until gangster
- 39:54rap came along. And so you're right. I didn't
- 39:57even think about that. That is 100 % the other
- 40:00guy's perspective. He's being cucked. He's being
- 40:03cucked. God dang. Go ahead, brother. No, I was
- 40:08going to say, and don't get me wrong, I love
- 40:09gangster rap. You know what I mean? I love it.
- 40:13You know what I mean? But it's just like, if
- 40:16you ever... My mind just always thinks of it
- 40:21that way as well. Rappers actually cut their
- 40:26listeners. Fuck, you ain't lying. Oh my goodness,
- 40:32I didn't realize how much it was in the genes
- 40:34because I never ever thought of their perspective.
- 40:39Gentlemen, this is very, very simple. It's the
- 40:43pimp versus the simp. All right. It's the pimp
- 40:47versus the simp. The pimp is the bad boy. He's
- 40:50usually the gangster or the drug dealer or whatever.
- 40:55In this case, we're talking about the hip hop
- 40:57community. Those guys are usually what? They're
- 41:00bad boys. That simp is what? He's that good guy.
- 41:03He goes to work every day. He brings home food
- 41:07for the family, et cetera, et cetera. He's usually
- 41:10boring as fuck. All right. The pimp versus the
- 41:13simp. What are the ladies like? Ladies always
- 41:17love the bad boys. Always. Doesn't matter if
- 41:21you're alpha male, sigma male, whatever. Ladies
- 41:24will always go for that guy that has that, here
- 41:28again, that aura about him. You know, something
- 41:31that they can't truly have, but they love it.
- 41:34The pimp versus the simp. I have a segment called
- 41:39Socrates, Philosophies and Hypotheses. And I'm
- 41:43going to do one on the power of the beta. But
- 41:46Unk is right. Like, the issue is just consciousness
- 41:50and awareness. Right? And so it's like, I was
- 41:54a simp before. I played that role. I've been
- 41:57in that situation. And I had to look in myself
- 42:01in the eye and say, hey, man, hold on. You come
- 42:03from, like, literally, I'm not joking. Like,
- 42:05you see the way my father looks at dresses now.
- 42:08And you're like, oh, everybody, okay, yeah, yeah,
- 42:09got it. Or. Like I was, you know, like that was
- 42:14my life. And I had to look myself in the mirror
- 42:18and say, look, brother, you come from a long
- 42:20line of pimps, players and pushers, man. What
- 42:22are you doing? So it's also it's a state of mind
- 42:26and it's a state of being, you know. And so in
- 42:29the cuck world, what I love about the cuckold
- 42:31community and the cuckold world, we have a safe
- 42:34and respected place for you to be celebrated.
- 42:38I'll cuck the fuck out of you, no problem. Like,
- 42:41however way it works for you and your partner,
- 42:44but at the end of the day, we might go, you know,
- 42:47and watch a game, you know, whatever your team
- 42:50is, whatever my team is, and have a beer and
- 42:52chop it up and be cool and understand that we're
- 42:55both doing our thing, and that's what's dope
- 42:58about it, you know? My second, actually, cuck
- 43:02experience was with a black cuck. And now he
- 43:06claims to be a stag. But that was my experience.
- 43:12So talking about me as a researcher, yeah. Now
- 43:16I got to go back and do a deep dive in the connection
- 43:19between the hip -hop language and culture and
- 43:24how it might be affecting a new generation of
- 43:26black cucks. I was deep into the political one
- 43:30and how, you know, normal media and... porn addiction
- 43:35is really creating a super community of cucks
- 43:40like they're predicting an explosion of cuckolds
- 43:43because all they're going is growing up watching
- 43:45black now you know so they grew up watching somebody
- 43:50else do the fucking and and and not and you know
- 43:54and covid killed the game and now you're not
- 43:57getting out you're already socially awkward you
- 43:59have no social skills And that is negative in
- 44:03any situation. You seem to be, interestingly,
- 44:06you got game, brother. You seem to, I seem to
- 44:10be, I feel like if I saw you just regular in
- 44:13a club and you just saw a girl, like you said,
- 44:15you wanted to bang out and you were spitting
- 44:17game, I wouldn't, I don't know. I don't know
- 44:19you, of course. We've never met. My question
- 44:21is, man, would I even be able to recognize him
- 44:24as a cuck or would I just see him as another
- 44:25brother spitting game to a woman? oh go ahead
- 44:33brother go ahead no no i was going to say so
- 44:37i i'd like uh i want to give you guys instagram
- 44:39page i was like you know like clicking around
- 44:42and i might have followed the page i'm not sure
- 44:45so you know i was thinking like you guys could
- 44:49see actually like what i look like you know and
- 44:51kind of be like oh this brother is you know you
- 44:55weren't even Yeah, I'm on your ex. I don't see
- 44:58any other pictures. I'm on your ex, but you're
- 45:01on... Are you following us on Insta? I'm on Insta.
- 45:05Oh, I'm going on... Let me go now. Maybe... Yeah.
- 45:10Message us or something, and then I'll go to
- 45:12it. All right. Cool. But, you know, that's something
- 45:17I'm... You know, I was just like... You know,
- 45:22I was introduced to... a guy who was very alpha
- 45:27outside of that. He was only a cuck in scene.
- 45:32He'd never do any public anything. You're never
- 45:34going to be able to, you know, I'm just talking
- 45:36to a new cuck now, and he just loves to be publicly
- 45:39humiliated at the restaurants and be called a
- 45:41cuck in front of the waiters and the crazy look,
- 45:45you know, so I've talked to people like that
- 45:48that love that. He ain't in for that. And now
- 45:51that he's a stag, he'll yell at me and argue.
- 45:54That, you know, he was never really a cuck. He
- 45:57just, you know, went through some hard times,
- 45:59whatever. The point is, he's a cool dude. I love
- 46:02him. And there's so many. And then I think I
- 46:05met one other one before. You know, nothing.
- 46:10We never interacted, but he hit me up, him and
- 46:12his girl. And it just never went anywhere. And
- 46:14he seemed to be almost on the sissified level,
- 46:19right? Let me see. I'm looking up followers.
- 46:25I'm learning Insta. I'm not even going to lie,
- 46:27y 'all. I am not the Insta expert yet. You're
- 46:32following us? I just followed you guys up. I
- 46:36just liked a few photos, too. Maybe that might
- 46:41help you out. The Bull Brotherhood Instagram?
- 46:47Is that what he's talking about? Yeah. What is
- 46:51it? It's my first initial and my last. No, no,
- 46:59no. It's my real name. Got you. I think, okay.
- 47:08Looks like you got a flag around your... A picture
- 47:13with a flag around your... A flag? No, no. It's
- 47:18like a black hoodie on. Okay. But anyway, my
- 47:30point is, the way you sound, the way you approach
- 47:33things, I wouldn't be able to, I don't know I'd
- 47:37be able to distinguish you as a cuck. Sometimes
- 47:40I feel like I have a cuck dart. You know what
- 47:42I mean? I'm not always right, but I feel like
- 47:45as a bull, I'm starting to develop cuck dart.
- 47:47You know what I mean? I feel like he's got some
- 47:49cuck energy. At this point, it's just between
- 47:52me and my wife. I don't say nothing to nobody.
- 47:54Just be theorizing between my wife. It's a theory.
- 48:00You know, I feel like the way you sound, it's
- 48:02like, hmm, that's interesting. You sound like
- 48:05a brother be standing next to me spitting game.
- 48:06And then, you know, next thing you know, he's
- 48:08in a situation I would never be in. I did start
- 48:13a text message with you guys a couple days ago.
- 48:16I just sent it to your mom. On Telegram? No,
- 48:21a text message. Oh, okay. Yeah, you got to do
- 48:25something recent. Yeah, so I just sent it. Yeah,
- 48:30I just sent it to you. Okay, there you go. Oh,
- 48:36yeah. Gotcha. Yeah, so you're looking, brother,
- 48:44in my opinion. I would not assume you a cuck
- 48:49at all. And that's what I love about this life.
- 48:52There is no look. There is no cuck look. There
- 48:55is no cuck race. There are factors in the world
- 48:59that might lean white people, white American
- 49:03men especially, and I've been talking to some
- 49:06European guys and learning more about Europe
- 49:10and Monaco and France and Germany and England,
- 49:14London and all that kind of stuff. They're everywhere.
- 49:17And the more ubiquitous this becomes, the more
- 49:20other cultures are going to say, yeah, that is
- 49:22the way I express myself. And what I love about
- 49:25it is I love kink and poly is one thing about
- 49:28monogamy is that the culture is everywhere. It
- 49:32is the matrix. Monogamy is one of the matrix
- 49:35is one of the plugs that are in the matrix. Everything
- 49:38in our media, everything in our marketing, everything
- 49:44in our literature is about monogamy and enforcing
- 49:49monogamy. But the thing is, it's the least structured.
- 49:52It's just like do this, get married, and do that.
- 49:54Don't do this. Whereas in this world, nobody
- 49:59has to follow a script. Everybody can choose
- 50:02their own way to do it. But we have fundamental
- 50:04principles and ways that you can come in that
- 50:06honors and protects and respects this community.
- 50:10And the fact that you are an African -American
- 50:12brother, I love it. And the fact that you're
- 50:16identifying with these things. And you sound
- 50:18loud and proud about it. And you're like, this
- 50:22is who I am. And, you know, that is dope as fuck
- 50:26to me. And that's the thing, you know, like you
- 50:31see in the cuck porn or whatever, there's this
- 50:33perception of the guy is, oh, I can't identify
- 50:38my wife. I'm this tiny, poor little white boy.
- 50:42Right. You know, like I've never, like. Like,
- 50:47you know, like, I've always had confidence in
- 50:52myself. You know what I mean? Like, I've never,
- 50:54like, you know, been afraid to approach a woman.
- 50:58You know, like, if she doesn't think I am attractive,
- 51:02there's X amount, X billion amount of other girls
- 51:06that might think I am. So, you know, like, that
- 51:09never, like, bothered me. It's not like I have
- 51:11a micro penis. You know what I mean? You know,
- 51:17I have a lot going for myself, you know, education.
- 51:22So, you know, like I'm confident, you know, I've,
- 51:26you know, never been bullied, you know, like
- 51:30I've always like stood up for myself, you know.
- 51:35So, you know, just all those factors, you know,
- 51:37like, I don't know, I just never. have that perception
- 51:42of me like of where i don't think i could please
- 51:45a woman or you know um just all those like quote
- 51:51-unquote you know tendencies that they that they
- 51:55kind of portray you know there's nothing weak
- 51:58about you in other words there's nothing weak
- 52:01about you I have a woman, I'm a protector in
- 52:07front of other men, you know, I'm a provider,
- 52:09you know, for my family, you know, for myself,
- 52:13for, you know, for my community, for all my loved
- 52:17ones, you know what I mean? That's what matters
- 52:18the most to me at the end of the day, you know?
- 52:22And, you know, I hear a separatist type into
- 52:25religion sometimes, and I am a God -fearing man,
- 52:28you know, and I don't have, like, that type of,
- 52:32like, religious battle. you know within myself
- 52:35i'm like oh i shouldn't be doing this because
- 52:39you know the lord you know what my religion says
- 52:42you know not to you know what i mean it's just
- 52:45i just do my own i just do my own thing you know
- 52:50and when it's time to meet my maker you know
- 52:52then hopefully he still like lets me through
- 52:57them golden um gates you know what i mean but
- 53:00um yeah i just I just respect myself. I respect
- 53:05the ladies that I, you know, I engage with, respect
- 53:08their boundaries, you know, and, you know, treat
- 53:13them well. And I just like to have them enjoy
- 53:18myself and have a good time. And I like to leave
- 53:20an impression. with them too you know like they
- 53:23probably don't see that many like type of like
- 53:25freaky black men trying to suck on a strap on
- 53:29you know what i mean so i'm trying to do it sloppily
- 53:31i'm spanking that ass while i do it you know
- 53:35and then i'm bending you over that table and
- 53:39i'm getting up in you too so um yeah so yeah
- 53:45like and how can you not like enjoy a big black
- 53:49dick busting on a woman's ass cheeks and seeing
- 53:51that come just right in between her ass you know
- 53:55what i mean like it's beautiful um the queen
- 53:59of spades you know that's that's ultimate right
- 54:03there you know that's the cream of the crop um
- 54:06those are the cream of the crop type of women
- 54:09you know so i've never uh played with one yet
- 54:14but um hopefully hopefully one day i would love
- 54:18a queen of spades like pegging no session or
- 54:21something like three three qr lessons wow i would
- 54:28love i would love to i would love to uh attend
- 54:31like a small event with with some cats like you
- 54:35brother and some ladies you know i would love
- 54:39to damn sit there like like okay These brothers
- 54:44right here are bringing something different to
- 54:46the damn food chain. I like that. I really do.
- 54:53Socrates, I'm sitting looking at the time, brother.
- 54:55Do you want to keep going or are we going? No,
- 54:59let's do, you know what, though? Call this one.
- 55:01Yeah, we'd love to have you back on. What do
- 55:04you think? I can let my assistant know. Let's,
- 55:07let's, uh, let's dig deep. I want to dig deeper
- 55:09on a few, maybe even have you as a guest on my
- 55:12segment and let's get, you know, insanely nerdy
- 55:15and scientific and research and shit like that,
- 55:17you know, but let's have you back a couple more
- 55:19if you're interested. Yeah. Cause you know, you
- 55:24said you had mentioned something, I think you
- 55:26guys mentioned something earlier about, uh, like
- 55:29more like how cuckolding is such, such a big,
- 55:32um, you know, kind of genre right now or a dynamic
- 55:36and i feel like a lot of those uh you know like
- 55:40a lot of the girls that are just like making
- 55:42content too you know it's a lot of like heavy
- 55:44bbc generated content you know they're they're
- 55:48they're wearing queen of spades panties and shit
- 55:51like that you know and you know some of you know
- 55:55some of them they might not even like they might
- 55:58not even be they might not even like date black
- 56:00guys at all but that's you know they're they're
- 56:03they're big they're big they're big money maker
- 56:05right so it's like they they lean into that more
- 56:08and let's give them the guys just like kind of
- 56:11fucking eat eat it up yeah and let's give them
- 56:14credit they're actresses now unless on their
- 56:17profile or in their claim this is real And then
- 56:22they're being inauthentic about their realness.
- 56:24Like, there's a lot of gangsters back then that
- 56:26was claiming to be real thugs and come to find
- 56:28out, no, you're just a studio thug, right? Like,
- 56:30even I was just in the episode. Like, I was a
- 56:33thug because I had to be. I was Buster. When
- 56:36it's time to get out of there shooting guns,
- 56:38I wasn't doing it. So I feel like as long as
- 56:41they are presenting themselves as mattress actresses,
- 56:44right? Like, OnlyFans are people. um giving you
- 56:48a show and then maybe there might be like if
- 56:51siren ever do it we were like we're gonna give
- 56:54you the day in the life we're not gonna give
- 56:56you the highly recorded highly edited super stuff
- 57:00we're gonna give you no this is siren is a real
- 57:03life super slut like she don't need no acting
- 57:07no ideas no nothing you know she does what they're
- 57:11talking about so yeah we love that and i love
- 57:14that I love that you recognize that. And let's
- 57:17even get into the political shit. Like, I've
- 57:21been really diving into that stuff and the connection
- 57:23between the two because there's a connection
- 57:25to BNWO. There's a connection between the political
- 57:28stuff and Cuckoo Trees and Lifestyle. So, you
- 57:31know, let's let Unk take it over. Oh, go ahead.
- 57:35Go ahead. Okay. No, I was going to say, I remember
- 57:39BNWO heavily back in, like, the Tumblr days.
- 57:42That's where I really... like found uh like bnwo
- 57:47content and those those posts used to be those
- 57:51guys were really uh they had a big imagination
- 57:55they had a huge imagination but i love it though
- 58:03you know submissive white boys being feminized
- 58:09worshiping bbc black men whatever Okay, let's
- 58:14go. Yeah, that's a whole nother, that's a whole
- 58:19nother damn topic. We won't get started on that
- 58:24tonight. But I tell you what, though, it has
- 58:27indeed been a, if Socrates and Siren don't have
- 58:30anything else on the plate, do you? No, I'm good.
- 58:34I'm complete. I'm complete because we're going
- 58:37to do a couple more. I tell you what. yeah yeah
- 58:41we're gonna definitely talk to the cook next
- 58:43door again and uh brother i want to thank you
- 58:48uh for myself and on behalf of myself and socrates
- 58:52and siren thank you for being on the bull brother
- 58:54podcast and we are so looking forward to having
- 58:57you up here again thank you guys so much thank
- 59:01you all right and again ladies and gentlemen
- 59:05another uh and informative episode of the Bull
- 59:09Brotherhood podcast with our guest tonight, the
- 59:12cook next door. And believe me, he will be back.
- 59:15So until we meet again, as always, to my Bull
- 59:20Brothers out there, wish you guys good night.
- 59:24And to all of those lovely ladies, hot wives
- 59:28out there, wishing you all good morning. This
- 59:33is the Signal Mail himself sounding off. Socrates
- 59:37and Simon are saying goodnight. I'll be to say
- 59:40cheers. Bye -bye.