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- 0:00Welcome to buck Eyes Tomorrow Morning for Thursday, February twenty ninth. I'm your
- 0:03host, Tom Moore. The Akron game is in one hundred and eighty four
- 0:06days, the game against Michigan in two hundred and seventy five days, the
- 0:10start of spring practice in five days, and we are going to be leaping
- 0:14get it because it's a Cbebruary twenty all right, Yeah, we're gonna be
- 0:17leaping right into our show today. I titled it initially five Freshmen to Watch,
- 0:22and then it was like, well, there's kind of a combination of
- 0:25guys at a few different positions, so it's like five positions with freshmen to
- 0:29watch. And I thought, well, that's not a very good title.
- 0:31And then I thought, oh, we're talking about Jeremiah Smith, so good
- 0:33news. I'll just put Jeremiah Smith in the title and everyone will be excited.
- 0:35So there we go. We're going to talk about Jeremiah Smith today.
- 0:37Spoiler alert. He is a freshman that some people at Ohio State are excited
- 0:41about. I'm guessing I do not need to tell an audience of Ohio State
- 0:43fans that I probably do not also need to tell Tony Gurdham in that he
- 0:47is followed a Higo State football somewhat closely. Over the years, Tony,
- 0:51there have been plenty of hyped freshmen coming in. You know, this is
- 0:56not a quarterback, so this is not Andy katzen Moyer. But I think
- 1:00it just feels like the level of excitement around Jeremiah Smith, not just from
- 1:04the fan base, but from people within the program who are in a position
- 1:08to kind of know, like, hey, this guy seems like he's pretty
- 1:11good. It is up there with some of the more anticipated freshman springs.
- 1:18Some of the reactions from Ohio State fans kind of reminds me of Swifties actually
- 1:23in terms of their infatuation and their love of just the idea of Jeremiah Smith.
- 1:32But I think we're all kind of interested because we've heard for a new
- 1:36and stein frankly for two or three years now about him. And you know
- 1:42what freshman sophomore in high school like this way, did you see this guy?
- 1:46This guy's coming up, he's gonna be the next one. And now
- 1:48he's here, and so let's see what he does. And I know,
- 1:53I'm almost almost tired of talking about how we see these freshmen in spring.
- 1:57Garrett Wilson Jackson Smith than Jigba. How talked many times about how blown away
- 2:02I was the first time we saw Jackson Smith and Jigba just catching everything his
- 2:06first spring practice before the world imploded in twenty twenty, how he was just
- 2:10incredible and you knew right then watching him like this guy is going to be
- 2:15a star. And he had ten catches for forty nine yards as a true
- 2:19freshman. So there are glimpses and then it takes a while before you see
- 2:25the full picture. And with Jeremiah Smith, people are talking like it's not
- 2:30going to take long and see that full picture. It's just going to be
- 2:32like first page. It's right there, all out for you. So I'm
- 2:37looking forward to it. I think it's interesting that there are two starting jobs
- 2:40available, as we talked about in the last show, that there is an
- 2:46opportunity to go win a spot, and people are already talking about how he
- 2:52is. You don't give this opportunity, You don't assume a freshman can do
- 2:57it. You don't put that kind of pressure on him. They're kind of
- 2:59doing that, and it's it's being done with Jeremiah Smith, so we will
- 3:02see you know it is you mentioned he's not a quarterback, where he's not
- 3:09Andy Katsenmore. This is very similar to the Andy Katzenmoyer thing though, where
- 3:14like he was he was, he was big time and maybe maybe like Maurice
- 3:20Clarette as well, where it's just they're they're known before they've ever done anything
- 3:30at Ohio State and then as freshmen they lived up to that. So that's
- 3:36that's a lot for Jeremiah Smith to do. And I know we've talked plenty
- 3:39of times about the thirty catch threshold for freshman receivers. We'll see if he
- 3:45can get there. Carnel Tate had a fantastic freshman year last year and had
- 3:50like what nineteen catches or something like that, So the opportunity is going to
- 3:53be there for him to do more. Yeah, there's definitely gonna be opportunity.
- 4:00Farbe it from me to tell you to pump the brakes on this,
- 4:01but you know, I think going into the spring with reasonable expectations is probably
- 4:05going to set you up for a happier spring. He is probably not going
- 4:10to catch, you know, seventeen hundred yards worth of passes this year,
- 4:13no matter how good he looks on film, no matter how good. He
- 4:15looks during the spring, but I think go back and look at the trajectory
- 4:20for like a Garrett Wilson or Chris A. Lava or Jackson Smith and Jigba
- 4:26or any other any other true freshman receiver that you've seen in the past that
- 4:30has gone on to have a really spectacular career. Harrison in that group if
- 4:33you want, and there's been a lot of they start to really show up.
- 4:39You know, sure he'll probably have do something cool in the fourth quarter
- 4:42against Akron. Absolutely, they don't generally against good opposition. They start to
- 4:46show up around mid to late October early November. Marvin Harrison really showed up
- 4:51in the Rose Bowl more than anything else. So you know, don't necessarily
- 4:57expect starting day one, but there's certainly something to be intrigued by. There
- 5:01is plenty to be intrigued by there, and there's certainly a path to the
- 5:04field there as well. So you'll get to see something this year, and
- 5:10the spring and the fall camp are really going to be about finding out how
- 5:13much are you going to get to see? Wide receiver is one of the
- 5:15places where we have seen freshmen get on the field for Ohio State. The
- 5:19next three position groups that we're going to be talking about are other places where
- 5:23we have seen freshmen get on the field before and you know, in some
- 5:27cases win starting jobs. Let's talk next about defensive end and Edwrick Houston.
- 5:31That's a spot where this is a deeper defensive end unit than I think we've
- 5:38seen in a number of years in the past. So it may be a
- 5:42little bit of a tougher path to the field for him, but there is
- 5:46certainly an opportunity there to get on the field this fall and start sort of
- 5:49making a name for himself. Yeah, I definitely think there's an opportunity,
- 5:54and obviously it starts this spring where I think he's going to get quite maybe
- 6:00more work than a lot of freshmen do, because when you have Jack Sawyer
- 6:04and J. T. Twey Molowile, you don't necessarily need to work them
- 6:08too much in the spring. So that moves everybody up, including Edrew Houston.
- 6:12And you got Kenyatta, Jackson, Kaden Curry, Mitchell Melton, josh
- 6:16A Mickens of red shirt freshman ahead of him in terms of experience. But
- 6:20with Houston, let's not forget Ryan Day on signing day, when he can
- 6:25finally talk about Edrick Houston after leaving the press conference to go talk to Edric
- 6:30Houston and then coming back and getting the signature and being able to talk about
- 6:32him, said that they think he's an impact player on day one. Now,
- 6:39what does that mean? I mean to me when you say that,
- 6:41I'm expecting to see him on the field. But then I think Ryan Day
- 6:45also said that, not necessarily knowing if everybody was going to be returning,
- 6:48you know, in terms of J. T. Twey Molowile Jack Sawyer,
- 6:51because he said this in mid December, and those two announced their returns in
- 6:55like mid January, So that maybe gets put on hold a little bit.
- 7:01But it's a long season. You're gonna be rotating a bunch of guys because
- 7:05you want, you you need all of your veterans to be as fresh as
- 7:09possible in January. Now it's no longer just November. It's November, December,
- 7:14January. It's like basically September October is the preseason and November, December,
- 7:19January is the essentially the playoffs now, and so that leaves room for
- 7:26a guy like Eddrick Houston to make an impact for Ohio State. But yeah,
- 7:31we'll get to see him this spring and get to just see when we
- 7:36get to see that, watch those one and ones, and maybe we'll get
- 7:40to see two or three practices this spring. And you chart them and you
- 7:44watch them, and you go back and you look and sometimes guys just jump
- 7:47out at you. And we've seen him before defensive ends where guys just like,
- 7:50Okay, that guy looks special. And I do remember Mark Gibler and
- 7:56Kevin Noon going down to Florida to watch Edward que or to Georgia. You
- 8:01for Georgia to watch edarck Houston, and Mark at that point said he's he
- 8:07hasn't seen any better prospect in the twenty twenty four class than edwarck Houston.
- 8:13And Kevin of course chimes in, he's like, well what about Jeremiah Smith
- 8:16in Mark SLECLD. So that's the kind of level that we're talking about with
- 8:18edwarck Houston, where you know, this was a guy that everybody wanted Ohio
- 8:24State got. So I'm looking forward to seeing him this spring as well.
- 8:28So those are two guys who I think are you know, just based on
- 8:31the high school resume alone, you would sort of think, yeah, you
- 8:33maybe have a faster than usual path of the playing field, another spot where
- 8:39you typically will see if a freshman is going to be a standout, if
- 8:43a freshman is going to earn a starting role. Running Back has been one
- 8:46of those places you have seen that over the years. JK. Dobbins obviously
- 8:50relatively recently, Trevion Henderson even more recently than that. So there is a
- 8:54path for that to happen. I don't know that there's a path for that
- 8:58to happen this year with James People's because you've got Traveon Henderson, You've got
- 9:01Quinnchawn Judkins, you've got Dallan Hayden. I mean, there's plenty of talent
- 9:05on this roster, but it's certainly a position, Tony where we have seen
- 9:09freshman get out there and make an impact immediately or make an impact relatively quickly.
- 9:16James People feels like he could be someone who, you know, I'm
- 9:20not expecting him to win the starting job, I'm not expecting him to necessarily
- 9:22be the number two running back, but he feels like someone who could get
- 9:26out there and make a bigger impact than people might expect in year one with
- 9:31as crowded as room as that it. Yeah. I mean, we still
- 9:35haven't seen Trevion and Henderson like go through a full season without missing a couple
- 9:39of games. It's maybe his freshman season. So in instances like that,
- 9:43everybody's gonna move up a spot. You know. I go back to Ezekiel
- 9:48Elliott carried the ball thirty times as a true freshman in twenty thirteen. Demario
- 9:56McCall add forty nine and twenty sixteen, and that was basically the high water
- 10:01mark. So like in blowouts, there are gonna be opportunities. But you
- 10:05know, Dylan Hayden has been very, very patient, so you would expect
- 10:09that he's going to be that third guy and there aren't a lot of carries
- 10:15for a fourth guy. But again, this is gonna be a long season.
- 10:18This also, you're not just gonna throw out Dalan Hayden. I think
- 10:22in the final eight minutes of a blowout either you're gonna want to get guys
- 10:28some playing time. But I wouldn't you know, is James Peoples to me,
- 10:31I think because of the depth at the running back position, he's a
- 10:35red shirt candidate. I do expect him to play his four games, and
- 10:39I expect him to to make a mark. But this spring it'll be interesting
- 10:45to watch in terms of how much does Travon Henderson do, how much do
- 10:48they want Quinn shown Jenkins doing because obviously you know this is a new offense,
- 10:52but he's not an inexperienced player. So and frankly, Dllan Hayden is
- 10:58all he's ever done is spring football and fall camp. Like all he's ever
- 11:01done is practice. How much time does he need? But so I think
- 11:05there's gonna be some some decent work for James People this People's this spring that
- 11:09can then springboard him into something more. But we saw last year with Dallan
- 11:15Hayden like it's it's very difficult to get a fourth guy out there, especially
- 11:20if you're trying to red shirt it, and they we may see the same
- 11:24thing happening for James People's this year. Yeah, that's kind of the sixty
- 11:28four thousand dollars question is do they try to red shirt him because then you
- 11:31potentially see eight carries against Akron or you know, ten carries against Rutgers or
- 11:39whoever. But you know, then then they don't you know, you are
- 11:41only playing those four games. The real interesting thing is the postseason stuff doesn't
- 11:48count, so then you could have as many, theoretically as many as five
- 11:50postseason games which wouldn't count, so you could play nine games and red shirt
- 11:54theoretically. That's one of about it's probably about the four hundred and thirty second
- 12:01weirdest thing about this upcoming season. But a lot to get a lot get
- 12:05used to there. So we'll see how James people starts this spring and where
- 12:09that ultimately ends up leading him to this fall. Another position where we have
- 12:15seen true freshman go out there and start. Denzel Burke went out there started
- 12:18as a true freshman day one at corner against Minnesota in twenty twenty one.
- 12:24We saw j R. Brown out there start, We saw Jeraine Matthews I
- 12:26think it a start by last year. So you know, corner is a
- 12:31position where it has happened. There is a lot of talent coming in at
- 12:37the corner position. This is kind of a three headed monster of Aaron Scott,
- 12:39Brice, West, Miles Lockhart. I mean, that's a really deep
- 12:43corner room. They would have to have either a remarkable leap forward from one
- 12:46of those guys or really really bad injury luck at the corner position. We
- 12:52have seen both of those things happen at Ohio State in the corner room over
- 12:54the last few years, so it's it's definitely not impossible. But I think
- 12:58these are three guys who I'm really intrigued to watch and just sort of see
- 13:03what maybe you know, where they are coming out of the spring. Yeah,
- 13:09because this is a cornerback room at Ohio State, like you said,
- 13:13three straight years they've had a freshman start at least one game. But Tim
- 13:16Walton, the cornerbacks coach, has also recruited that room better now to where
- 13:22it seems like it would be much more difficult for a freshman to make this
- 13:26a four year in a row thing because you do add as you said,
- 13:31Jermaine Matthews, and you got Calvin Simpson, Hunt got Lorenzo Styles out of
- 13:35the portal last year, so it's a deeper room and and so like that's
- 13:39gonna be much more difficult. I am interested to see what happens in the
- 13:43spring in terms of who is where. They recruited Myles Lockhart to be a
- 13:48slot, a nickel corner, so I'm assuming that's where he will be.
- 13:52Bryce West to me could end up just about anywhere in the secondary. He
- 13:56could he could end up outside at corner. He could. He talked to
- 13:58I talk to him a year or two ago. He said he's been He's
- 14:03mentioned the slot as well. I think he could end up as a free
- 14:07safety honestly as well. So I think they're gonna get him in there obviously,
- 14:09you see where he fits best. I just wonder how how much time
- 14:13they give him. I remember Jordan Fuller, I don't know that, I
- 14:16don't know if it was in the spring or fall camp, but he he
- 14:18was at corner for like one practice and they moved him to safety. Same
- 14:22thing with Christian Bryant from Glenville, started out as corner and lasted maybe half
- 14:33of camp before he was moved to safety. And so just be you know,
- 14:37we'll see. One of my favorite things about going to the first practice
- 14:41compared to like the tent is to see who has moved where. It's like,
- 14:45oh, now Torrence Gibson is with the wide receivers and stuff like that,
- 14:50where it's kind of newsworthy that they've moved guys around. So those three
- 14:54guys again all very talented, and Aaron Scott might be this year's version of
- 15:01Jermaine Matthews. Yeah, and If he is, that would be a real
- 15:05real shot in the arm for the Ohios date defense because you've got a really
- 15:09talented top line at that corner spot already, but you could potentially lose Denzel
- 15:16Burke and Davison Nigbunosen and Jordan Hancock next year. So that would be a
- 15:20big, big boost for the twenty twenty five Buckeyes. And the last position
- 15:24I want to talk about is really also more of a twenty twenty five positional
- 15:30battle. Potentially. We're going to read these names in alphabetical order, just
- 15:33so we don't offend anyone. Lincoln keenholes Air Nolan Julian saying three very talented
- 15:37quarterbacks at Ohio State. Coaches are very very high on a pair of true
- 15:43freshman five stars. Lincoln Keenhols came in as a high four star in the
- 15:46twenty twenty three class. He played more than you maybe would have expected in
- 15:50twenty twenty three as the third string guy, and you know, was really
- 15:56thrust into a very unfair spot in the and Bowl behind an offensive line that
- 16:00was not great, and you know, in a game he was very clearly
- 16:03not ready to play. I don't know that I'm necessarily expecting him to be
- 16:07in the twenty twenty four quarterback battle, but this feels like this spring might
- 16:11kind of be the start of what might shape up to be the twenty twenty
- 16:15five quarterback battle between these three guys. Yeah, because we're gonna be talking
- 16:21about it, We're gonna be measuring it, We're gonna be comparing them to
- 16:22each other, and like, oh, this is Lincoln Keenols is lead leading
- 16:26now and then in three days like oh, Aaron Nolan, oh Julian's saying
- 16:30on the charge. And think back to last year, where from day to
- 16:34day it was Kyle Lcord leading, it was Devin Brown leading, and now
- 16:38we've got like a two year head starter or one year head start on that
- 16:42sort of thing. And the thing with it already starting now is there's so
- 16:47much ground to gain to lose from now until whenever. And sometimes it's something
- 16:56as smaller as significant as breaking a hand like Joe Burrow that determines whether you
- 17:03are the backup or you are the starter at another conference. So just little
- 17:07things at the time they don't seem so major, that become major because Dwayne
- 17:11Haskins is the guy that goes in instead of Joe Burrow, because Burrow was
- 17:15not the backup in twenty seventeen against Michigan. So this is this spring is
- 17:22the start of that. But anything that can, anything can happen between now
- 17:26and then to disrupt it. Like it doesn't matter really to me who leads
- 17:30among them out of the out of spring you would Lincoln Keyenholtz, I'm sure
- 17:37is hoping that it's him because he's been here longer, so he should.
- 17:41And if you're caught by somebody who is a year younger than you in spring,
- 17:45that would be a concern. But again, it's not so much of
- 17:48a thing right now that you can't overcome it during the course of the season,
- 17:52during the course of next spring, and during the course of next fall.
- 17:57And these those three guys, and though Keenhols is a red shirt freshman,
- 18:00this is his first spring camp, so they you know, he has
- 18:03a little bit of a head start on th other two guys, but not
- 18:06as much as you might think with a full it's not a full year.
- 18:10It's half a year. And he did get thrown in a little bit,
- 18:11a little bit earlier than probably expected, but now has a chance to go
- 18:15through spring and there's a lot of development, a lot of growth to be
- 18:18seen there, a lot of interesting stuff as you're describing, you know,
- 18:22oh this guy's in front, now, Oh this guy's in front now.
- 18:25The word you were looking for, Tony was overreaction, But we can't wait
- 18:27to be overreacting. Less than a week from now, we'll be at at
- 18:32Ohio State watching some little spring practice and watching the Buckeyes really kind of kick
- 18:37off that twenty twenty four season prep. Winter workouts wrapping up this week,
- 18:42and then we'll be out there for springball starting next Tuesday. A lot of
- 18:47interesting stories to be to be had, a lot of interesting stuff to watch
- 18:52on this year's team, and a great place to do all of those things
- 18:53is at buckeyehuddle dot com. We're talking about this year's team, we're talking
- 18:57about the NFL Combine going on this week, Mark and Kevin in Indianapolis,
- 19:03with lots of coverage out of there. You can find that at bucke huddle
- 19:06dot com and of course Bucket YouTube dot com slash bucke Huddle as well.
- 19:10We have plenty of coverage from the combine, plenty of coverage from Ohio State
- 19:14spring football camp starting next week. There's gonna be some recruiting news I'm guessing
- 19:18coming pretty soon. There's plenty of x's and nose talk as well. There's
- 19:21a lot of exciting stuff happening, and it's all happening at bucke huddle dot
- 19:23com. We hope to see you there. That will do it for today.
- 19:26Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day. We'll
- 19:29talk to you tomorrow.