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Episode 286: Trio (SG-A 4.16) · Get Into Gate: A Stargate Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Get into Gate episode two hundred and eighty six, Stop
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  Speaker 1: and Stargate Atlantis. Mitch and Maddie. Here was up Hey
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  Speaker 1: going over there, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: This is different.
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  Speaker 1: This is different. We're out of the studio. I mean
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  Speaker 1: we've been out of the studio before, in the Quarantine
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  Speaker 1: Times where we were all promote the Dark Times. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we lost a member along the way, although he did
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  Speaker 1: miraculously return. It's like it was like Jesus. He came
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  Speaker 1: back for a for a one and done, and then
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  Speaker 1: we just seemingly await his return and again love your Reese. No,
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  Speaker 1: we are remote from the studio, but in the same location.
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  Speaker 1: And we're in my home studio aka my in law's bedroom,
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  Speaker 1: basically my spare room that belongs to my in laws
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  Speaker 1: when they.
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  Speaker 2: Started with your in laws. They're the only ones that
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  Speaker 2: have used it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean my mom does occasionally, but you know I've
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  Speaker 1: thrown it open to link.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: If he's up here and it's late and he says
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  Speaker 1: how tired he is, I'm like, bro, just stay here.
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  Speaker 1: Not once I've been in this house. Next week it'll
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  Speaker 1: be four years. Never once stayed over, Like, do we
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  Speaker 1: stink that bad? Are we? That loud? Are we that annoying?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe he just knows your in laws of Chris and
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  Speaker 2: this and he just doesn't want to.
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  Speaker 1: Deal with that's a great question whether they have.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe there's some stank going on. I feel like link
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  Speaker 2: of all people's ultra sensitive to that kind of thing.
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  Speaker 2: He knows those little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Are stag Yeah, I had not thought of that. That's
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  Speaker 1: a great that's a great thought. But I will have
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  Speaker 1: to share with my wife. You know, here, I'm going,
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  Speaker 1: can can we sneak one in while they're here? Like
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  Speaker 1: we're literally the opposite ends of the house right, Like
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  Speaker 1: we're at like the on the on the on the
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  Speaker 1: low on the ground level at the front of the
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  Speaker 1: house right now, and then my bedroom is on the
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  Speaker 1: second level at the very other end of the house.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, it's a it's a lot.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a square house. It's it's a narrow house, right,
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  Speaker 1: So we couldn't be further away from each other, but
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  Speaker 1: still in the same house. And I'm like, could we
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  Speaker 1: I never thought about the fact that maybe they were trying.
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  Speaker 2: To Yeah, does it? Does it count as swingers if
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  Speaker 2: it's you're in laws and you're not in the same room,
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  Speaker 2: but you're in the same house trying to crack on
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  Speaker 2: a session.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't bring swingers into the Why would you do that?
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  Speaker 1: Can foul? Man.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a happily single guy, so I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what still should be weird, still imagin anyway,
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  Speaker 1: So we're literally sitting on either side of the bed
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  Speaker 1: with some makeshift sort of studio equipment in between us.
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  Speaker 2: Now at the moment, later we'll just meet in the
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  Speaker 2: middle and just crack on.
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  Speaker 1: Well, at the moment, it feels like we've got, you know,
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  Speaker 1: a weird sort of you know, meet cute thing going on.
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  Speaker 1: We're only looking at each other's eyes.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that's like, say, of you, the attempt to sound proofing. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: back in the day when Brennan and I used to
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  Speaker 2: look at each other just just over the monitors. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: we just see from the nose.
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  Speaker 1: Well, he hasn't been in the studio since we've had
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  Speaker 1: all those extra computer monitors removed.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, he hasn't.
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  Speaker 1: So if he was there, you guys be able to
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  Speaker 1: see each other in full base Oh my god, full face,
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  Speaker 1: full facial Yeah, and he has to pay for that usually, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but not anymore so again another another another Christ that
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  Speaker 1: we await his return. We had talk in episode sixteen
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  Speaker 1: of season four of Atlantis, Trio, don't bring it up.
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  Speaker 2: It's two So I was just that way.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, who would we be? Okay, Trio, we're in
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  Speaker 1: this situation.
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  Speaker 2: And obviously the mackay.
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  Speaker 1: I think he would like that. Yeah, you would have
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  Speaker 1: to be Carter.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, have you been well? You right?
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  Speaker 1: Okay? I was the Carter of s in the STU
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  Speaker 1: one days you were Carter? Does that make me? Jill
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  Speaker 1: state what I might to j so cute? What what Trio?
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  Speaker 2: You and me just sitting there talk about what boys
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  Speaker 2: we think of you? That's that's very close to reality,
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  Speaker 2: trying to take our tops off.
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  Speaker 1: It's all really so real. It is. Wow.
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  Speaker 2: We should we should remake it for papers. We'll just
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  Speaker 2: remake it shot for shot for sure.
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  Speaker 1: During an off World mission, Carter, McKay and Keller become
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  Speaker 1: trapped in an underground mining chamber that's rocked by fierce
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  Speaker 1: seismic tremas. Written by Martin Guiro, directed by Martin.
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  Speaker 2: Wood was known as Martin Squared.
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  Speaker 1: Just looking at the commentary sort of like the credits
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  Speaker 1: here on the special features, and it says a commentary
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  Speaker 1: on Treo by co executive producer, thank you so much,
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  Speaker 1: slash writer Martin Guiro and then director, Oh okay, director
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  Speaker 1: slash supervising producer Martin Wood, and a man of Tapping.
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  Speaker 1: I thought it was saying that Martin Wood was the director,
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  Speaker 1: which is and then a man of Tapping was a
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  Speaker 1: supervising producer. What actually also speaking on the physical media
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  Speaker 1: on which we love and watch this beautiful show. Look
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  Speaker 1: at the back of the season four e v D.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just looking down the bottom www dot Stargate Atlantis
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  Speaker 1: DVD dot com. Fair enough. The next one underneath MySpace
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  Speaker 1: dot com forward slash TV on DVD au Wow, So
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  Speaker 1: you know, balling out.
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  Speaker 2: That's a time capsule MySpace.
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  Speaker 1: And physical media products of the two thousands. Yeah, oh
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  Speaker 1: hang on, what do you think? Yeah, weird one. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: obviously it starts and very early on you see these
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  Speaker 1: three walking together and it's like, okay, they're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: It's it's them three. And I'm remembering, oh, that's right,
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't look at what the episode was called,
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  Speaker 1: is yeap straight whack it on? And I thought, oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Maddie had said that the next episode was
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  Speaker 1: going to be about these three and that's all I knew,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm open to it. They're going to go visit somebody,
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  Speaker 1: a village that refused to leave their lands despite the
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  Speaker 1: fact there's a lot of sizemic activity. They're at threat
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  Speaker 1: possibly of you know, becoming extinct. H and our guys
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  Speaker 1: are going to go on and try to move them
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  Speaker 1: on because they need some freedom from some from some
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  Speaker 1: sarz make seismic activity if I can speak English, But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: McKay fell in a hole and then Keller and Carter
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  Speaker 1: fell in a hole, and I did not expect that
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  Speaker 1: to be the episode. It's like, well, we're stuck here
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  Speaker 1: and we're not even cutting back to anybody else who's
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  Speaker 1: expecting them or anything like that. It was just them
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  Speaker 1: in a hole having to problem solve, And like part
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  Speaker 1: of me was kind of just like, oh God, move
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  Speaker 1: on with it for a lot of it. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, I was also like, well, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: this is a science based show. We would like to
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  Speaker 1: see a lot of that. Like occasionally we dive into
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  Speaker 1: some real like just sci fi battle sort of shit,
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  Speaker 1: and then other times we have the more dare I say,
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  Speaker 1: treky sort of elements where it's about the political, the
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  Speaker 1: social culture of a particular world and how we can
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  Speaker 1: integrate with them and how we kind of step on
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  Speaker 1: some eggshells. But other times we just come barraging through
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  Speaker 1: the door and we want to help them, we want
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  Speaker 1: to let them do it themselves. And this was one
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  Speaker 1: of those episodes where it's not about you know, shooting
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  Speaker 1: shit and blowing stuff up. Obviously, we kind of got
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  Speaker 1: there towards the end using a makeshift you know, a
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  Speaker 1: rocket or whatever. But yeah, I kind of had to
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  Speaker 1: respect this episode for being something so simple. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know whether the set dressing would have, you know,
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  Speaker 1: cost a thousand dollar, hundred thousand dollars, you know, just
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  Speaker 1: for a couple of boxes and the CGI for the
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  Speaker 1: for the vast canyon out the red door or anything.
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  Speaker 1: But otherwise it seemed like a very isolated episode, and like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: we're making this because we're trying to save budget for
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  Speaker 1: other things, or because we spent it on that full
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  Speaker 1: fledged battle a couple of episodes ago with the replicators.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, I was a bit mixed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's essentially what it was supposed to be. It's
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  Speaker 2: got a very interesting backstory this episode. It is I
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  Speaker 2: feel like a fan favorite. I know Brendan spoke a
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  Speaker 2: lot about it. He really does love this episode. I'm
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  Speaker 2: fairly certain. But yeah, basically so. In the weird timey
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  Speaker 2: wimy situation of Stargate is this set is actually a
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  Speaker 2: reuse of the gimbaled set from Continuum, which the fandom
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  Speaker 2: hadn't seen yet at this point. It came out at
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  Speaker 2: the end of this season, but it's the set of
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  Speaker 2: the Achilles that actually does gimbal and tilts, So when
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  Speaker 2: all the tilting was happening, that wasn't just a camera effect.
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  Speaker 2: The whole set was tilting. It was six feet off
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  Speaker 2: the ground, fully tilting. So what it actually originally was
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  Speaker 2: is they had that gimbaled set from Continuum, and Martin
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  Speaker 2: Guiro said, Oh, don't get rid of that. I'll write
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  Speaker 2: an episode to use around that. So this was supposed
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  Speaker 2: to be a bottle show that was supposed to be
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  Speaker 2: very cheap because they had the gimbal set already, And
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  Speaker 2: then the more it got written, the more complicated it
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  Speaker 2: got because they had to factor in every single piece
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  Speaker 2: of set dressing, basically is the prop in the show
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  Speaker 2: as well, the amount of boxes that they had to
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  Speaker 2: climb on, the planks, the rope, you know, all those
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  Speaker 2: things had It was all very strategically done, and then
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  Speaker 2: they realized that the only way to get out of
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  Speaker 2: it was by going out and underneath, I think they
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  Speaker 2: were going to come up with a different way to
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  Speaker 2: do it or something like that. Yeah, and obviously then
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  Speaker 2: all the CGI budget came in and all that kind
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  Speaker 2: of stuff, so it ended up being a much more
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  Speaker 2: complicated and a much more expensive episode than it originally
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  Speaker 2: planned to be.
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  Speaker 1: Hmmm, yeah, I mean I don't hate I just I think,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like the last couple of episodes I watched
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  Speaker 1: all together and then coming into this one, it was just,
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  Speaker 1: i don't know, very different. So it just threw me
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And I don't know, I can see
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  Speaker 1: what would be a favorite, especially if you are you know,
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  Speaker 1: obviously we love how these characters interact with each other.
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  Speaker 1: I just found McKay being really like just fucking annoying,
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  Speaker 1: like borderline, like ourshole and more than it usually is
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  Speaker 1: at the start. And it's funny the way that it ended,
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  Speaker 1: because at the start, I'm like you would have McKay
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  Speaker 1: do this if he's in love with with Keller and
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to express it. He's like a
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  Speaker 1: like literally a six or seven year old boy in
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  Speaker 1: the school yard, who you know, when you're that young,
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  Speaker 1: you mean to the girl that you like because you're
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  Speaker 1: trying to pretend like you I don't like her, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to play kissy with her, and I
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  Speaker 1: don't like her. She's ugly and she smells funny or
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  Speaker 1: whatever you mean to these, to the to the girls,
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  Speaker 1: and then you grow up and you pretend like tree
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  Speaker 1: to me and keeping Keen is an actual thing. And
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  Speaker 1: here he is. That's exactly what he's doing. And I'm like,
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  Speaker 1: what are you like? Out of his way? Like everything
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  Speaker 1: she said he questioned, and he made fun of and
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  Speaker 1: mocked and condescended her, and I'm like, dude, shut the
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  Speaker 1: like I was getting, like, even outside of a character level,
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  Speaker 1: I was actually getting annoyed at Giro, So that's you.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, what are you doing? Like where is
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  Speaker 1: this going? Are you thinking that I'm laughing along with
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  Speaker 1: this because I laughed the first three, four, five, six,
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  Speaker 1: seven times he was a dick post that I'm just like,
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  Speaker 1: where's the where's the where's the punchline of this joke.
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  Speaker 1: I'm actually pissed off watching it.
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  Speaker 2: Is a little I mean to use the twenty twenty
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  Speaker 2: five ten and there's a little incel that at the
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  Speaker 2: end of this Keller finds it charming, like I mean,
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  Speaker 2: and in the same way that Katie, who he broke
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  Speaker 2: up with, you know last week the week before, found
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  Speaker 2: that that element of McKay charming, and they fact that
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  Speaker 2: Keller finds that kind of element of him charming as
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  Speaker 2: well is a little weird. It is. Yeah, I enjoy
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  Speaker 2: it because it does feel it kind of reminds me
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  Speaker 2: of Solitudes back in season one of s G one
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  Speaker 2: when Carter and O'Neil a trapped and on the quote
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  Speaker 2: unquote ice planet and they realize that it's you know, Antarctica.
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  Speaker 2: Eventually it's it's that problem solving and what are we
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  Speaker 2: going to do with what we've got? Yeah, it does
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  Speaker 2: feel like McKay's wet dream and that it's we had
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  Speaker 2: We had grace with Carter, we had grace under pressure
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  Speaker 2: with Carter and McKay, and now we've got zero grace
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  Speaker 2: and it's just McKay's wet dream where he's just stuck
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  Speaker 2: in there with with Keller and and Carter. But yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you're right, he's very off putting and very very ikey.
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  Speaker 2: And I think I might have even been in the
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  Speaker 2: audio commentary as well, or maybe in some trivia and
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  Speaker 2: it's like by modern sty No, I think it was
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  Speaker 2: in the audio commentary. Some people had some issues with
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  Speaker 2: McKay encouraging the two women to expose themselves to children,
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  Speaker 2: and it was obviously played as a joke, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: they were never going to do it, like that's totally inappropriate,
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  Speaker 2: never going to do it, but just the idea. I
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  Speaker 2: think one of the trivia pieces was like, this is
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  Speaker 2: the first time a regular Stargate member has encouraged someone
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  Speaker 2: to break the law, like make it do a crime
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  Speaker 2: or whatever. And I do remember Carter sort of also
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  Speaker 2: Mada tapping in the commentary saying something about no, it
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  Speaker 2: was just it was played as fun and I think, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Carter and Keller's reaction to it is what makes it funny,
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  Speaker 2: and is is what you can play it off as
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  Speaker 2: a joke in that they did like that McKay is
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  Speaker 2: so oblivious to think that that's I mean, yeah, ten
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  Speaker 2: year old boy, ten year o straight boys want to
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  Speaker 2: see boobs awesome. Yeah, But just the fact that, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like that he would think that two grown women would
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  Speaker 2: want to expose themselves to children to get out of
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  Speaker 2: this situation. Yeah, two scientists, like, yeah, two scientists and
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  Speaker 2: superior in theonel in the military. She's like, I think
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  Speaker 2: I can come up with better ways to solve this
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  Speaker 2: issue than you know, going full American flag on myself.
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  Speaker 1: And I was thinking as well. One thing I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to bring up, and I guess we'll just cover it briefly.
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  Speaker 1: Here is the fact that there were so many times
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  Speaker 1: during this that he would talk to what's Keller's first name,
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, let's just call it Jewel, right, And
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  Speaker 1: he says, Juli, you gotta do this because Sam I
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  Speaker 1: want you over here. Like he doesn't refer to her
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  Speaker 1: as you know, colonel Carter. He doesn't refer to her
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  Speaker 1: in any type of like hierarchy way. He refers to
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  Speaker 1: her as an equal and just straight up like a
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  Speaker 1: shortened first name. And I thought, you know what, I
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  Speaker 1: know that regardless of friendship and all that sort of stuff,
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  Speaker 1: And Craig would be able to speak to this if
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  Speaker 1: he was here for this podcast, being a former military guy.
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  Speaker 2: Jennifer Keller. Just so, Jennifer, you welcome, Holly you are
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  Speaker 2: is that.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how friendly you are with somebody if
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  Speaker 1: you are on a mission or a uniform or god
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  Speaker 1: knows what else. I don't know how far it would go.
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  Speaker 1: You refer to that person by their rank or as sir,
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  Speaker 1: or as ma'am or miss or whatever it might be.
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  Speaker 1: You do not refer to them as their first name,
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  Speaker 1: even if you used to be friends, or if you
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  Speaker 1: are still best friends. If you're not an equal playing field,
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  Speaker 1: that's not a go. But that she was cool enough
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  Speaker 1: with it, and also it was in a life or
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: death situation. It's kind of like, let's let's let's cut
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  Speaker 1: out the formalities, like let's just get on with it.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I know, we're not afraid of going, let's
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty five this, you know, and look at it
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  Speaker 1: with a modern day you know, cancible, you woke lens
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  Speaker 1: or something like that. But I didn't think about that
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  Speaker 1: for one second watching that part of the episode, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm again, we're looking at it from a writing point
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  Speaker 1: of view, from a directing point of view from a
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  Speaker 1: tone of the show point of view, and even in
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: a you know, a nostalgic you know, like throwback almost way,
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  Speaker 1: we're looking back something with modern eyes, rather than in
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  Speaker 1: story where these guys are going to die like they
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: were on an alien planet. No one knew that they
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: were going to be in any kind of trouble until
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: after they would have already been dead if they had
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: to wait out the five hours until checkout time. I'll
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  Speaker 1: check in time rather, And you know that he is
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: literally throwing out any type of suggestion, and yeah, it's
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  Speaker 1: it's your boss, it's your co worker, it's professionals, these
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  Speaker 1: are scientists, these are people to be respected on many levels.
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time, and he's like, hey, look
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  Speaker 1: these kids, like they see that we might not survive this,
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  Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, but my mom might yell at me,
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  Speaker 1: my dad gets angry, so I'm not even going to
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  Speaker 1: save your life. So the idea of him go on,
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  Speaker 1: oh show me your tits, I'm like, yeah, whatever, Like
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind that. I'm glad she obviously turned him
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  Speaker 1: down and he deserved to be turned down. But at
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  Speaker 1: the same time, like, yeah, I'm not at all bothered.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And even though that comment that you just read from
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Amanda Tapping might have been said in two thousand and
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: eight or twenty twelve or something, and we are a
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: fair bit on since then. I kind of like that
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: she said that because I kind of agree with that.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it was made as a joke almost
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: on Rodney for being so you know, basic and shallow
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the tone of it when he was
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: that was the whole point. Is it so absurd that
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: someone would suggest that? And I feel like Rodney is
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: the only person that could get away with doing that. Yeah,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: like you know, you know, can see Daniel Jackson suggest that,
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: or Tilk suggests that, or Shepherd suggests that, or you know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: bless his heart, Beckett, you know he's not gonna make
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: those kind of suggestions. I feel like Rodney is the
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: only one to do that. And on your point of
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: with the whole the sath is, it's like, yeah, Rodney
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: thinks he and Carter are much closer than they really
• 17:00
  Speaker 2: because he had his grace under pressure moment with her,
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: and he calls her Sam because they think he thinks
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: they're friends. She calls him Rodney because he's a civilian one,
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: and he's he's a subordinate, so she can get away
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: with calling him by his first name. But yeah, he's
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: you know, not one to call her. But then again
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: he's I don't know that he's ever called shepherd colonel.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: I think he's always just gone with Johl or that's
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: true like that, So he does get a pass with
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: the the whole sort of being a civilian thing. I
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: just thought, you know, you might have been upset when
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: when Carter, when Carter ruined what could have been your
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: favorite moment with found rope.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: I got a uh, you know, I got a little
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: got a little bit middrif action, you know. But I
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: just even like she was like, yeah, okay, yeah, I'll
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: take this off so that we can use that, And
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: then even McKay was like, oh, even though I suggested it,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I was kind of waiting for some kind of confirmation
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that I would have to give before I turn around
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: and saw a bit of extra skiin or something. I mean,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: I just even like the idea that like obviously rope
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: or a climbing type a not even device prop you know,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: item would exist in many cultures and many different planners.
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: But the fact that it was still tired and looking
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: like it was constructed and weaved in exactly the same
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: way that you know rope on Earth is made.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: I was like, ah, well it was denied they have
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: our guns.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That's you know, that's true. Maybe they'd never seen rope
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: before us. It's like, oh, this is good now. Speaking
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: on Amanda Tapping, she came to work in this episode.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: Here we are going. She's obviously got a you know,
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: a secondary contract where she doesn't have to be there
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: every episode. She might only be there for half of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: them or two thirds of them, and a lot of
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: those ones she's sitting behind the desk, she's walking from
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: one control room to the to the gate room, whatever
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: it might be. She's not having to do a lot
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: of physical work on location like she did for SG one. No, no, no,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: it's like there. It's almost like she's come in and said, hey,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: put me to work, Like can you just give me
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: one action role, like one action episode for the season,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: one per season, for however long this goes on. Because
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: another thing that I liked about the whole here's a
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: problem that we've got to solve. We've got three brilliant
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: minds or at least two brilliant like scientific minds, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: then someone who's brilliant in the medical space and can
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: think on things in a different level that maybe the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: other two can't. We've got to fix some problems. Is
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: that their solutions kept failing. Like it wasn't like, well,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: this worked, but it only brought another problem. It was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like no, no, no, that just didn't work, and you're running
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: out of time and you consistently brought back to the
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: to square one, you know, like I actually really like that.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: And even when they know we've figured out the know,
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the the pub test, you know, the little challenge that
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Keller gave, and then they put the planks up and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, we're getting on in the episode.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: This is going to have to work. And there might
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: still be some threat of it not working for some reason.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: That's fine. And then Nut she just fell for what
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the third time at that point, and just progressively got
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: more and more injured, so that whole thing was there
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: just so she could break her leg. And I'm like,
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: I've got to respect this episode for not just having them. Well,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: you gotta fail once, you gotta fail twice. But you know,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: in Hollywood, we like to deal in sets of threes,
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it's gonna work out really well, I don't know, Let's
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: just keep them failing. And they eventually had like the
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: answer was there the whole time, just to go out
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: the other way, and they had to find it by accident.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I kind of I kind of dig that.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you make a good point in that one. Yeah,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: it's great that it's like they it's like they saved
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: up all their card to days and it's like like
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: like when like when Richard Anderson we only had limited
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: days and stuff. I feel like this made up for,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: you know, all the episodes that are Manda Tapping missed.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you make a good point there where I
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: feel like if you compare this to the start of
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: the season, where when we're floating in space and it's
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: like we solve a problem and another problem shows up
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and we solve that problem and another problem, and whereas
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: this it was just each one failed. Yeah, that's a
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: really interesting Yeah, and given that they're you know, both
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Euro kind of episodes. Yeah, it's kind of like the
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: fact that it was just to fail and try something different, fail,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: try something different, fail, try something different. Yeah, it was
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a quite interesting way to approach it I did like,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and it's a it's a it's a very subtle blink
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: and you'll miss it kind of reference. But it's when
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: the girls are tying the rope and Keller is starting
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: to play the you know, would you rather or whatever
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: she was saying when she was comparing the guys, you
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: had to choose one. If you notice, Carter always chose
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: the older man. Oh yeah too, yeah, yeah, she was
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: always going for the slightly older, slightly more distinguished.
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: Well, I was waiting for an explanation when she said
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Brad pet or George Clooney or like, she's obviously going Clooney,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: and I wonder what she's going to say. Is it
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: going to be like, oh, silver fox, you know, I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: like an older looking guy, distinguished guy, something just to
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: allude to to O'Neill, And that didn't happen. But yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Paul Knewman and Robert reda fit. I'm like, well, one,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: that's my mum's like dream scenario between them two. But
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: then Newman, oh, without question, And I'm like, how old
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: was Paul Newman in two thousand and eight? Like he
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: might have died that year?
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Probably there was however, a deleted scene between the two
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: them might associate you in terms of what you were
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: hoping for.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: Are you seeing anyone? What?
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the base, so have you seen anyone?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I kind of had a moment, guy, but it's
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: kind of hard to read, so I guess the short
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: answer is now.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: You well on the bus, so I can't actually.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Write, of course, aiming back home, so spill it. Well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: it's complicated relationship. That isn't kine. But he's in Washington.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: I'm here, long distance relationship. Huh, it's going to retire soon,
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: So who really retire?
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Son?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Older man?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Huh, it's not that much older And see older man Washington,
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: see a senator, somebody famous.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: When I know him?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Wow yeah, wow, Like that's a that's a hell of
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: a deleted scene. Like that's a lot obviously for time
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: I can understand.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: But yeah, and I think that's why they cut it,
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: because it was just too it was too much information.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: But it's not just like throwaway dialogue, you know, like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: we don't need it. But at the same time, like
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: it's just not bold, but it's like, well, this is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: this is sort of fan Well, I mean when everyone's
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: got that little spec elation and US fans just like
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: to play around with the idea of things like I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: don't know that. That just says a lot like that
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: says again, it doesn't specify, but it's like, come on,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: how many more boxes do we need to tick? Where
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: if you're playing guests, who only was the last one
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: left there? Right?
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: And I did also telegraph the the Rodney thing at
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: the end because at the start of the scene when
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you're watching it, when Carter asks are you seeing anybody?
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: And then are you seeing anything on the base, she
• 24:27
  Speaker 2: looks over at Rodney. Now like Carter knows that Keller's
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: into Rodney at that point, yeah, right, And then Keller
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: references she almost had a moment that's referring to the
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Ronan thing from a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: don't know if that.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, of course, even i'd forgot well, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: i'd forgot about that because I still haven't watched the
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: end of that episode. Do you remember how I came
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: into the podcast and i'd seen twenty five minutes.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: That's that's going to go up there with the first one.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: I promise I'll finished watching it.
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: That'll be our reunion episode. We'll finish the pod and
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: like five years later we'll come back. Mitch finally watches
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the first ones again. I've seen it, guys, but one
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: hundred years ago.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not sure we can think. I think we
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: underneath to do that at the end of the end
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: of Atlantis is run or the end of Universe is run.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the complete podcast. Yeah, yeah for sure. Okay,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: so hey, look, you like what you like, and everyone
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: can like different people for different reasons. But within a
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks there is like, hang on, what's going
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: on here with the what is there a rona and
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: that you could that makes sense? You know, like two
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: people similarish kind of age, like you know, like good
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: looking people.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: One of them looks like Jason Momoa, one of them
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: like stage.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: You can see that they would have beautiful children, you know,
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: beautiful mix of their colors. Like it'd be so great.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: I like you saying, I will Carter sees that, this
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Carter sees it earlier. I'm like, I still like that
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: ended And she's like, yeah, you owe me a beer
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: and he's like no, I don't. I'm like, well, just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: say that you own the keg. Because that was literally
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: something that he said and that'll be it. And she's like,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'm trying you to ask you for me beer and
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: him going oh, and she said, you're really bad at this.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: And until she said that line, I was like, wait, wait,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: hang on, what what's going on here? I just thought
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: she was like almost trying to do him a favor. Yeah,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: and then she said that, and I'm like, well, you're
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: not saying that as a woman in front of it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: He's a very smart man, but he's also a dumb guy.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Like smart man, dumb guy. Right, we can absolutely be both.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: And you know, I don't know how to talk to
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: some people at the best of times. So you know,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: we're naive fools. We're hopeful when we should have no
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: hope and where you know, naive when there's something right
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: in front of us. I just I don't know. I
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: don't I don't get it. So I kind of don't like, Hey,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: if we never hear of this again, great, if they
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: get married in the next episode, whatever, But like I
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: just I don't know. I just it didn't make any I.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: Think as the two of us, Yeah, we look at it,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: we go, well, if we were in in Keller's position,
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: It's like, well, in a way, I think she was
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: being respectful. You could you could argue that she's felt
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: this way about for a long time. But the entire
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: time that Keller has been on the expedition, McKay has
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: been with Katie, you know, so almost in a way,
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: you could say Keller's second option was Ronan, you know
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, imagine that being your fallback. His
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Ronan decks. But you know, like she said, he's very
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: hard to read, you know, and maybe that's what attracts
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Keller to Rodney is he doesn't shut up. He says everything.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: He has no filter, whereas you know, she doesn't. She
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: never needs to wonder what Rodney is thinking, whereas with
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: Ronan you would. But you know, us being basic men,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: just on a on a physicality level, you and I
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: would both very easily choose Jason Momoa over Rodney McKay.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it is an interesting one to think that
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: that Jason Momo could ever be someone's fallback second choice.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: God, what a what a slack If you didn't know
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the first If you just were told, hey, do you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: know that you're going to turn down Momoa for someone better,
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: you'd be like Oh my god, who's that going to be?
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you look at mama in real life,
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: like he's been married to oh god, what's her name now?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What's her name's mom?
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Zoe Kravitz's mom, Lisa Bene right, I was thinking
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: something Rose, Yeah, Lisa Benet. And they've you know, parted ways.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: They were married for a long time or they married
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: that they weren't just parted up. I'm pretty sure they
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: were married.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: I think so really had some kind of commitments whatever
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: they were traditional, don't know it was a traditional marriage,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: but I think they had some kind of commitment ceremony.
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: Are together for a long time. He was absolutely stepdaddy
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to to Zoe Krabatz and then.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Daddy daddy almost in a way well not sorry, not
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: like that.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Yeap, and uh and then they've broken up and now
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: he's dating the potential future wonder woman in Adria Ana.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Sure.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you always fix the like the main female character
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: in and Or.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: Oh okay, she's looking to be the new wonder woman.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: Well she she keeps getting mentioned. I mean, once she's
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: got that look, she's the right mate. I broke it
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: down and over and get it a geek.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, but I absolutely listened to that.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: You absolutely would have because at some stage had to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: talk about some DC C W TV, so of course
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: she would have given that a miss. But yeah, she's
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: up there and James Gunn gave her her first film role,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: and she's just one of those picks.
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: I mean, as I'm as much as I'm not a
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: fan of and or she's got some chops. She's really
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: got acting chops. She can, she's got range, So yeah,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: that could be really interesting. Yes, I wouldn't. Yeah, I
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: think that could be cool. So you know, and wonder Woman.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: It's like he had his heart broken but his marriage
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: broke up and it's like, oh but you know, your
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: next girlfriend's sorry what God damn? So yeah, was doing it,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: even if he is Jennifer Keller's second choice. So yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: in the end, it was It was kind of a
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: weird one in the sense that, like we didn't get
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: much in the way of detail about what they were
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: going to do, other than some very basic stuff that
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: we get at the beginning every episode where we're going
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: to come into a contact with another people told on hold.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: You're not going to skip over that you are we're
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: not going to skip. I'm not giving you the opportunity. Mate.
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: They're willing to move, but they have a list of
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: demands and a half long.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: And negotiating with alien settlements is not exactly why I
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: joined the air for US.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: I wonder who they did originally have on Atlantis to
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: deal with all those kind of negotiating. They had some
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: kind of professional negotiating who was sold as, you know,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: the greatest negotiator in the world.
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, mate, okay, mate, I'm sorry. Are you happily riding
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: off McKay and keller for dead? Because if we're there
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: and Carter's not, no one's getting out of that hole. Mate.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: You think we are going to go tomb raider, You
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: think she's climbing up, then he's trying to jump out
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: of a hole or scaling down. They're dead.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: He's definitely definitely not telling where to take a top
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: off either, So they would have had lost that scene.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: And not counted out. Well, I mean, we know someone
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: quite well that could have been asking we are a
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: number of years ago to take the top off and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: it might have been something that had a chance of happening.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: So well, ah, we leave that there if you know,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you know, and you should know because it's been in
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: the previous episode of the podcast. Yeah, we've talked about
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: it a bit on No, but like we get very
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: vague details about what they're actually doing, and then in
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the end we never see them go there, like obviously
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: we're not going to get another hole with two minutes
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: to go and go okay, now let's go there. But
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: it's like, oh, it was so unimportant. We gave you
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the barest of details. It's like, was there not an
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: ulterior motive? It's not like the planet's alive and you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: know that the tremdors are happening for some sinister reason,
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: but that's almost what they were going there for. It's like, this,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: is this something that we could help with?
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Is it?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: It's like no, no, no, fair well to bad old planet. Hay,
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: tough luck for those guys, and now we're back, we're safe,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: we're out of the hole. Or do they get the
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: thing done and they move on? Like you know, it's
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: just it doesn't matter. It was just about them being
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: in the hole and getting out of the hole. And
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you said bottle episode that cost them less money.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It matters so little. I will bring it up again
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: next week on how it mattered so little. Oh, I'll
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: just tickle your little further there, buddy. Something I did
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: want to reference though, is ironically, and this is going
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: to be a Zelenka pigeon reference. But in the same
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: way McKay brought up almost a beef with Neil degrass Tyson.
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: Oh that was great.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, not the end of that, not the end of
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: that little that little thread. So that's something you've got
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: to look forward to.
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, there was a bit of that, Like, there
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was obviously a couple of names brought into it, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: I just thought, well, especially Neil de grass Tyson, like
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I don't know what he was like back in two
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: thousand and nine when this episode came out, but like wait, yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you're right.
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like holy god. Yeah. It was shown
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: in the UK, like sorry, bye, way earlier than Sci Fi.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Channel United States. Now I've had it up in front
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: of me, but it's it's it's defaulted to what I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: will get to. United States eighth of February two thousand
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: and eight, Skip on down to Australia seventeenth of December
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: two thousand and nine. Yeah, are youking high?
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Man, we got this nearly two years after it came out.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Hey, look, I'll get it. That's one for this. But
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: what the The finale of Star Trek Voyager came out
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: in May of two thousand and one. I graduated twelfth
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: grade at in November of two thousand and one, still
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: not having seen it, and watched it in two thousand
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: and two on VHS when it was finally available in Australia,
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: because it didn't even show on freeedow wear TV in Australia.
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Wow, I can't believe that, because here I was we
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: were talking about and that last like two minutes ago.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: That would have sounded like bad audio because I was
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: going to cut that out as we were recording this.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I was like, I'll just cut this out. But I
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: kind of can't now. I was going to bring it
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: up before about the date, because here I was saying
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: about Carter, going, oh, Paul Newman, I'm like, I think
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: he died around this time. And you know why I
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: know that because Cars came out in two thousand and six.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: He obviously doc Hudson in that in that as the
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: older guy, and I knew that he was an older
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: actor doing voice work and I'm pretty sure he died
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: a couple years later, two thousand and six. Let's just
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: go to two thousand and eight. I looked it up.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: He did die in two thousand and eight, around September.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: And then when I saw this came out in December,
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, okay, that's not too bad. They
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: would have already filmed it. No, it was two thousand
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and nine. I thought that's a weird thing to make
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: a year and a bit after a guy's died, saying i'dim.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I completely forgot that he was in cars.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: But it came out. This episode came out like seven
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: or eight months before he died. I cannot. I mean again,
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: it was a weird time, young people, young listeners. When
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: we had stuff delivered to us, It's like we literally
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: put it on a ship like a small boat and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: said row it to Australia and they'll put it on air.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I remember, I remember the final season of Gilmore Girls,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: me reading transcripts of those episodes online, waiting waiting for
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: the DVDs to come out, just.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: Waited. But yeah, I'm sorry, how do you I will
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: expand on that, how do you read the transcript of
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: a Gilmore Girl's dialogue between Laura I and Rory and
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: in your mind absolutely absolutely can you read I know
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: I can read fast, but how do you read that
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: fast to mimic Lauren Graham's Yeah, yeah.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Cadence, I feel like I feel like I speak pretty
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: quickly most of the time. I never could have PREDICTEDA.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: But you know that was that was a that was
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: a little blessing for me. That was in season seven. Wow.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, we're living in a better timeline at the
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: moment where we get we get shit day and date.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: A little a little chip that I want to have
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: at Martin Guerro. And I'm not a scientist, but this
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: is something I read in the trivia and I was like,
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: you know what, I think he might be right. When
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: they throw the rope and they shoot the rocket and
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff, and they're pulling in all
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: the dirt into the room that they're in that's on stilts,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: then it starts to become unstable because of all the
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: added weight. That room was already holding the weight of
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: that dirt, because that weight was just on the roof
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: the floor. Yeah, So I was like, that's a good point.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: I think you could maybe argue that it's in then
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: like a pounds.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Per square into balance.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: That dirt was now focused, that was spread out in
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: the same way that Carter was like at the further
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: the start of the episode was like spread a weight
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: at evenly so we don't fall in That dirt was
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: all kind of spread out over the top, and now
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: it was in one pile ride in the center. But yeah,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: it was a good point when I read that, going, well, yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: it's been holding up the way of that dirt for decades.
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: I just I didn't even think about it, I.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: Either, but I thought that was quite interesting. I did
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: want to this. I don't think we'll use it again,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: but I just wanted to add it to something that
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: we may need in the future.
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: About this one.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Oh red means bad.
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, can range with that logic.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: I thought that was quite nice. And this, I think,
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: for me is one of the reasons. I think, like
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: we were talking about earlier, the whole like you know,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Rodney telling the girls to get the cans out and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff. I think one of the
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: reasons you let a character like that get away with it.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: On top of the fact that you know that he's
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: you know, he's not a virtuous character. He's not really
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: someone to look up to. I think moments like this
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: are what balance it out. And for lack of a
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: better terminology, give give the women their power back.
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: Okay, well, the grappling hook didn't work because a hoop
• 37:46
  Speaker 5: wouldn't hold our weight in soil creates didn't work because
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: same was too heavy. Oh well, we all want to
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: be I mean, our wed in general. Nothing to do
• 37:56
  Speaker 5: with you, is it just? I mean, you're in the
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: very good shape. Seriously, you have like the perfect body.
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: Well not that you don't, Oh no, no, no, I realized
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: that your bodies are different and maybe that that would
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: mean that that I think that your body is imperfect.
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: But that is not the case. No, no, no, far
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: far far from it. That that is just sweet, which
• 38:20
  Speaker 5: is to say, I mean, it would be impossible for
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: me to choose which if you.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Rest assured your efforts that have to I kept quiet
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: if it would have gone on like that forever.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm sorry. What I mean is that is that
• 38:29
  Speaker 5: you have Rodney.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: It's the bag that he's ready to go back to
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: one and start again.
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was I mean, if anything, we like to
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: like take lines like that, or with the you know
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: show the show the kids you boob seen and go
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, That won't work. I would argue
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that Rodney in the last forty five seconds we just
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: listened to that is him from twenty twenty five. Yeah,
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: because we're living in that world at the moment. It's
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: like I love apples. It's like, why do you hate oranges?
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: I didn't say anything, but well you stated that you
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: love apples and therefore they're the best, and that means
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: you hate oranges. Why do you hate other fruit? What
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: do you torch?
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Which means if you hate oranges, you must hate all
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: citrus exactly.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah. How was the movie?
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: That was all?
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't like it? No? I thought it
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: was okay. What would you rate it? Three stars?
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: Shit? Is it no above?
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Mid women Leaders? Because I had people of color in
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: me in main act?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, so he was just covered all of his
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: bases and just digging holes deeper and deeper. I actually
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: didn't realize it went for that long. Just listening to it,
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: it seemed to go for so much longer than watching it,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: because at least you're able to bounce off the reactions or.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: Non reaction cutting back.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: I was just listening to that. It's like, oh god,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: please stop.
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'd love to know how much of that
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: was in the script and how much of that was
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: just him.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah. We kind of hope that it's not because the
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: pressure is like, hey, just come up with some stuff
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: on the day, and well, I don't actually want to
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: offend them in real life? Do way? Because do you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: actually know this is actually part of the characters hang on? Well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: that was me, but because I thought the character would say,
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: it'd be like, oh my god, this is actually becoming
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: real life. This is great. So now that was funny. Rotto, Well,
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: that's episode two hundred and eighty six. Oh, Stargate get
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: into Gates. I wouldn't say starget Atlantis. It's not that episode.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: It's episode sixteen to season four. It's it's it's episode
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to eighty six of the other. Now I'm sitting like
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Ronnie two hundred and six of the of the podcast.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: We're back next week to talk. Okay, you said that
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: you guys have talked about Trio or you you at
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: least you Okay, Brennan says, Trio. You know that that's something.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's anything I used to get.
• 40:33
  Speaker 2: The confused with Trinity from season row.
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: Actually, I think I remember that when Trinity came up
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and You've been like, you said something and he was like, oh,
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: you might be thinking of Trio, whatever that may.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Be, because yeah, that's the one where Rodny blows up
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: like the planet oh right, or the solo self three
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: quarters of the solo.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well this one next week Midway. I've definitely
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: heard mentioned what what I mean if.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: We're not making out at the end of this episode,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: where I'm absolutely making out of the the next week's episode.
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Why were we going to make out of the others?
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Don't answer? Is it because we're in my in law's bed.
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: We're going to christen the in law's bed. But next week,
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: next week? Mate? There is so much just sexual magnetism
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: going on in an episode. You just no one, no
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: one could.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Resist, No one is safe in Midway, all right, get
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: you diddy lube and we'll see you back next week.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Mid Midway. That's where they dock. Get into Geek, get
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: into the Gate, get into Gate Stargate.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: Send me some maass bread