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- 1:18Speaker 1: much for your support, Kevin. And now, from September seventh,
- 1:22Speaker 1: nineteen fifty, here's the Big Poison.
- 1:33Speaker 2: The story you are about to hear is true, only
- 1:36Speaker 2: the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're
- 1:48Speaker 2: a detective sergeant here assigned a homicide detail. An old
- 1:53Speaker 2: couple suddenly disappeared from one of the fashionable neighborhoods in
- 1:56Speaker 2: your city. There's no trace of them, not a clue
- 1:59Speaker 2: to their whereof foul play is suspected. Your job find them.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the
- 2:18Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, in cooperation with the Los Angeles Police Department,
- 2:22Speaker 3: you will travel step by step on the side of
- 2:24Speaker 3: the law through an actual case, from official police folence,
- 2:28Speaker 3: from beginning to end, from crime to punishment. Dragnet is
- 2:31Speaker 3: the story of your police force in action.
- 2:36Speaker 4: It was Saturday, September thirtieth, was warm in Los Angeles.
- 2:39Speaker 4: We were working the day shift out a homicide. My
- 2:42Speaker 4: partner's Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Blaine Steed. My
- 2:45Speaker 4: name is Friday. Was three forty five pm when I
- 2:48Speaker 4: got to room sixty seven to eight missing persons.
- 2:52Speaker 5: Ali, Jill, Hi, where's al next door? I'll be back
- 2:55Speaker 5: in a minute.
- 2:57Speaker 6: There's a phone message for you in the book from
- 3:00Speaker 6: what is it this time? She didn't say you have
- 3:03Speaker 6: been a bad week? Oh what's the matter?
- 3:06Speaker 5: Loose? See him? Who our cat.
- 3:10Speaker 6: Again?
- 3:11Speaker 7: Kittens? I had to let them up by the time
- 3:14Speaker 7: I left the house, he was a healthy kid. Yeah,
- 3:18Speaker 7: don't know what I'm gonna do with him. Hey, your
- 3:21Speaker 7: mother likes cats, doesn't you know? You gave us two
- 3:24Speaker 7: from the last letter. We still got him as healthy
- 3:26Speaker 7: as their mother. Yeah, never pass up a meal.
- 3:29Speaker 8: Hi, Joe Hill, Sorry to keep you away, just getting
- 3:33Speaker 8: this report straightened up.
- 3:34Speaker 7: Ego, mister and missus Walter Apperson, how long they've been missing?
- 3:39Speaker 5: Well, today's the fourth day. They're a notally couple.
- 3:43Speaker 8: One of their next door neighbors got a little worried
- 3:45Speaker 8: when he didn't see him around the house kevi in
- 3:47Speaker 8: yesterday and filed at three sixteen on him.
- 3:49Speaker 5: See Clarence Stokely.
- 3:52Speaker 6: Is that the neighbor? Yeah, this is here.
- 3:55Speaker 8: He lived next to the Apersons for twenty eight years,
- 3:58Speaker 8: never knowing whom to take off like that. Checked Abstin's
- 4:01Speaker 8: cottage out there, dirty dishes on the kitchen table, not
- 4:04Speaker 8: the way an old couple leave the house normally.
- 4:06Speaker 6: How about friends and relevants.
- 4:08Speaker 8: Miss Stokely called him. None of them seen or heard
- 4:11Speaker 8: from the abersence for a week. Checked out two of
- 4:14Speaker 8: their three living relatives, cousin of Eagle Rock, and he's
- 4:16Speaker 8: no Hamburg.
- 4:17Speaker 5: I don't know a thing.
- 4:18Speaker 6: I wonder if I could see that man? Yeah, thank you.
- 4:21Speaker 5: Well, how about the third roun out team nephew? Is
- 4:24Speaker 5: that it Joe?
- 4:24Speaker 6: Yeah?
- 4:25Speaker 4: Frank Apperson says here he goes to a private college
- 4:29Speaker 4: out near Monroevia.
- 4:30Speaker 7: I haven't been able to contact the kitties away on
- 4:31Speaker 7: a vacation. Possibly a couple might be with him.
- 4:35Speaker 8: Not, according to Stokely, says the Appersons seldom spending time
- 4:38Speaker 8: away from their home.
- 4:40Speaker 6: That's all we've got to go on. Huh, just the
- 4:42Speaker 6: neighbor's story. Yeah.
- 4:43Speaker 8: Oh, he says he checked the garage too. Of the
- 4:45Speaker 8: absence car's gone. How does that die in? And mister
- 4:48Speaker 8: Aberson hasn't driven the car for the last year and
- 4:50Speaker 8: a half. He has a nephew or some friend drive
- 4:53Speaker 8: whenever he wants to go out. One more thing, they
- 4:56Speaker 8: mean something may not?
- 4:57Speaker 6: What's that?
- 4:58Speaker 5: Missus?
- 4:58Speaker 8: Apperson's an invalid, you know, shares a lesson neighborhood in
- 5:01Speaker 8: ten years.
- 5:04Speaker 6: Four PM.
- 5:05Speaker 4: Then and I left the office and drove out to
- 5:07Speaker 4: interview the neighbor of the missing couple. After checking at
- 5:10Speaker 4: his home, we finally located him at his place of business,
- 5:12Speaker 4: A small barber shop.
- 5:13Speaker 6: At the corner of fifty fourth Street in Maxford Place
- 5:16Speaker 6: the chip.
- 5:17Speaker 4: Gold lettering on the window read Jim Dandyton Sorroyl Parlor.
- 5:21Speaker 6: Smaller lettering in.
- 5:22Speaker 4: The right hand corner of the window read the proprietor,
- 5:24Speaker 4: Clarence Stokely except for a man in a white barber's.
- 5:27Speaker 6: Smock sitting in the first chair, and the shop was empty.
- 5:34Speaker 7: Dear gentlemen, Oh yeah, you Clarence Stoven that's right, police officers,
- 5:38Speaker 7: Michter Stokey, I could talk to you about the missing
- 5:40Speaker 7: person's report you filed yesterday.
- 5:42Speaker 5: Oh yes, God to help you find out anything.
- 5:44Speaker 6: Yet you know the Apperts pretty well, do you?
- 5:46Speaker 9: Mister Stoker twenty eight years sure worried about Bailer and
- 5:50Speaker 9: Kate never known him to do anything like this.
- 5:53Speaker 5: Say, I couldn't be of service to you, could I?
- 5:55Speaker 7: Well, I just had I heard a good a few
- 5:57Speaker 7: days ago. How about you, Joe, like you could stand
- 6:00Speaker 7: a trim. We could talk it over while I cut
- 6:03Speaker 7: your hair. Don't think we'd be disturbed? Nice to look well? Yeah, okay, final, yeah,
- 6:08Speaker 7: I'll take a cat.
- 6:10Speaker 5: Thank you, Jair, the.
- 6:16Speaker 7: M mister and missus Apperson didn't mention anything about going
- 6:22Speaker 7: away on a trip, didn't.
- 6:23Speaker 5: They not a word. That's what makes it so strange.
- 6:27Speaker 5: You let me fix this around your next year.
- 6:29Speaker 9: Oh yeah, play cards with them twice a week usually,
- 6:33Speaker 9: Katie Aperson's a fine whisp player.
- 6:36Speaker 5: Want me to take some off the sides here, officer?
- 6:38Speaker 6: Yeah? Please, not not too much? Though? When did you
- 6:41Speaker 6: first notice the Apersons weren't home?
- 6:44Speaker 5: Tuesday night? We thought we might go over and play
- 6:47Speaker 5: some cards.
- 6:47Speaker 9: I see, bet enough off right here, officer, let me see.
- 6:53Speaker 6: Yeah, that's fine. I was it. You waited until yesterday
- 6:56Speaker 6: to report the Aperson's.
- 6:57Speaker 5: Missing wife and I are great friends.
- 6:59Speaker 9: Will walk kid is, but it's setting me none of
- 7:02Speaker 9: our business if they want to go off for a
- 7:03Speaker 9: few days. Besides, he thought if anything was wrong, Buzz
- 7:08Speaker 9: would have said something. It was Bud Anderson's neph Bud
- 7:11Speaker 9: name is Frank, would ever called him?
- 7:13Speaker 5: Buzz?
- 7:14Speaker 9: I thought he was away at school place out in
- 7:16Speaker 9: near MONROEVI yeah, Stanley College, private school, and then he
- 7:20Speaker 9: stays there part of the time.
- 7:22Speaker 5: It's usually home early in the week. We were under
- 7:24Speaker 5: the impression of his nephew. Buzz was on a vacation
- 7:29Speaker 5: that's so.
- 7:30Speaker 9: That's the first time I've heard Honey, Walt and Katy
- 7:34Speaker 9: would have told us.
- 7:37Speaker 5: No, I'm sorry, a little dull head, dumb.
- 7:43Speaker 4: You think the nephew might account for the air person's
- 7:46Speaker 4: car being missing? I think he might have taken it
- 7:49Speaker 4: on his vacation.
- 7:51Speaker 5: Possible, I guess, But I think what would have mentioned it?
- 7:54Speaker 5: The car was old, but he was particular about it.
- 7:58Speaker 5: Maybe sit it out on top of here a little.
- 8:00Speaker 6: All right, fine, do you know the nephew at all?
- 8:04Speaker 5: Pretty well, nice young fellow.
- 8:07Speaker 6: He got along with his aunt and uncle, all right?
- 8:09Speaker 5: Did he just indeed?
- 8:11Speaker 6: I just loved him both.
- 8:12Speaker 5: Do you have any idea where the Appersons might be,
- 8:14Speaker 5: mister Stelphan, No, I don't, he does my wife. That's
- 8:18Speaker 5: why we call you people.
- 8:20Speaker 9: You don't mean to be Badinskis, but we're worried, maybe
- 8:24Speaker 9: just a little more off the top officer.
- 8:26Speaker 6: No, it's fine, it's okay. You have no idea where
- 8:29Speaker 6: we might find the nephew, Buzz not.
- 8:31Speaker 5: If he's away on vacation. Might check with the school.
- 8:35Speaker 5: Buzz might have gone off with a couple of his friends.
- 8:38Speaker 5: There's something to dampen that down.
- 8:40Speaker 9: Yeah, fine, Yeah, that porch lighted theirs burning for three
- 8:49Speaker 9: nights in three days.
- 8:51Speaker 5: It really kicks up the old electric bill.
- 8:53Speaker 6: Maybe the Appersons may have overlooked it.
- 8:55Speaker 9: Maybe all right, sir, it's a good looking haircut, if
- 9:01Speaker 9: I say so myself.
- 9:03Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fine.
- 9:06Speaker 5: Here you go, thank you. Oh, here's our card, mister Stokely.
- 9:12Speaker 6: We'll be checking will you? Bye bye? Can I borrow
- 9:22Speaker 6: your comb? Barber never combs your hair right, that's not
- 9:25Speaker 6: gonna help you. Huh.
- 9:27Speaker 7: It's the way you cut it, the what you mean?
- 9:29Speaker 7: He put the part on the other side.
- 9:36Speaker 4: After we left Clarence Stokely's barber shop, we drove out
- 9:39Speaker 4: to the Apperson home on fifty fourth Street, just below
- 9:41Speaker 4: Seaboard Avenue. We checked the house from top to bottom.
- 9:45Speaker 4: The closets and the bedrooms were well stocked with clothes.
- 9:48Speaker 4: None of the luggage seemed to be missing. In the basement,
- 9:51Speaker 4: back on one of the covered shelves, we found a
- 9:53Speaker 4: bottle of cyanide.
- 9:53Speaker 6: It was half filled. In the kitchen we found dirty
- 9:56Speaker 6: dishes still lying on the table. We put in a
- 9:58Speaker 6: call to right Pinker at the crime and he came out.
- 10:01Speaker 4: And took sample scrapings from each of the three plates
- 10:03Speaker 4: and specimens from each of the half filled cups of
- 10:05Speaker 4: coffee on the table. He also took along the bottle
- 10:08Speaker 4: of cyanide to examine it for fingerprints.
- 10:10Speaker 6: Ben and I called the record bureau just.
- 10:11Speaker 4: As a matter of routine and asked for any making
- 10:13Speaker 4: warrants on the nephew, Frank buzz Afersen. R and I
- 10:16Speaker 4: called back with the information that Frank Apperson had been
- 10:19Speaker 4: arrested for grand theft auto six weeks before his trial
- 10:22Speaker 4: was pending. We checked back with the barber, Clarence.
- 10:25Speaker 6: Stokely, he knew nothing about the trouble. The next morning, Sunday,
- 10:29Speaker 6: with the help of school authorities at.
- 10:30Speaker 4: Stanley College near Monrovia, we got in touch with the
- 10:33Speaker 4: parents of two of buzz Aperson's friends. They told us,
- 10:36Speaker 4: as far as they knew, Apperson was on a camping
- 10:38Speaker 4: trip with their sons. They were expected back in the
- 10:40Speaker 4: next day around noontime. From one of the boarding students
- 10:44Speaker 4: at Stanley College, we got the name of buzz Averson's girlfriend,
- 10:46Speaker 4: of missus, Norma Louise Bernard.
- 10:48Speaker 6: She lived in San Marino. Sunday night, we drove out
- 10:51Speaker 6: to interview her.
- 10:53Speaker 10: I don't know what I can tell you, Sergeant Buzzy's
- 10:55Speaker 10: on a camping trip with two of the fellas from school.
- 10:57Speaker 10: That's all I know.
- 10:58Speaker 5: When did he leave? Do you know me?
- 11:00Speaker 10: Last Monday morning? They left from school, said they'd be
- 11:02Speaker 10: gone for a week. They're coming back tomorrow.
- 11:05Speaker 6: You know Buzz Afferson pretty well?
- 11:07Speaker 10: Yes, I do, as well as anyone.
- 11:08Speaker 5: I guess what?
- 11:09Speaker 10: Is he?
- 11:09Speaker 6: Just a casual date?
- 11:11Speaker 10: Old Buzzy and I've been going steady for almost a
- 11:13Speaker 10: year now.
- 11:13Speaker 5: I see how old are you?
- 11:15Speaker 10: I'm nineteen.
- 11:17Speaker 6: Have you ever met the Afersons? His aunt and his.
- 11:19Speaker 5: Uncle just once?
- 11:20Speaker 10: They're awfully sweet?
- 11:21Speaker 5: How did Buzz get along with him? Do you know?
- 11:23Speaker 6: Well?
- 11:23Speaker 10: Fine? I guess the only argument Buzz ever told me
- 11:26Speaker 10: about was a month ago he wanted more allowance and
- 11:29Speaker 10: his uncle said no.
- 11:30Speaker 6: Was Buzz ever in any trouble to your annollige, Miss Vernin.
- 11:34Speaker 10: I don't think I know what you mean? What kind
- 11:35Speaker 10: of trouble?
- 11:36Speaker 6: I mean? Was he ever in any trouble at the
- 11:38Speaker 6: college or with the law on anyway?
- 11:39Speaker 10: Oh, you mean that car Buzz took about two months ago? Yeah,
- 11:44Speaker 10: we were supposed to go to this school dance and
- 11:46Speaker 10: Buzz didn't have a car. I guess he was ashamed.
- 11:49Speaker 10: He said he knew the fella he bowed the car from.
- 11:51Speaker 10: But the day after the dance the cops came.
- 11:53Speaker 5: How did his uncle react to that? Well, there was a.
- 11:55Speaker 10: Terrible row, Buzz said, I really shouldn't be telling you.
- 11:59Speaker 10: Budd May's promise.
- 12:01Speaker 6: How were feelings between the boy and his uncle before
- 12:04Speaker 6: he left on the trip that he mentioned anything to
- 12:05Speaker 6: you about that?
- 12:06Speaker 10: Well, we had a date last Sunday night. I asked
- 12:10Speaker 10: him how things were at home. He didn't seem to
- 12:11Speaker 10: want to talk about it.
- 12:13Speaker 6: The last time you saw him was Monday morning?
- 12:15Speaker 10: All right, yes, just before he left on the camping trip.
- 12:17Speaker 6: Were you're sure he went on that trip?
- 12:19Speaker 10: Well, of course, I'm sure. How do you mean, he said, No,
- 12:22Speaker 10: matter who asked you, I went on a camping trip,
- 12:24Speaker 10: he said, a couple of times.
- 12:25Speaker 6: Do you offer any explanation?
- 12:27Speaker 11: No?
- 12:27Speaker 10: But I knew everything was all right?
- 12:29Speaker 6: Oh? Was that so? How I could tell?
- 12:31Speaker 10: Wade kissed me.
- 12:37Speaker 4: The next morning Monday? Then and I checked with missing persons.
- 12:40Speaker 4: There was no additional information on the missing couple. We
- 12:43Speaker 4: phoned the barber, Clarence Stokely. He had seen or heard
- 12:45Speaker 4: nothing further of mister and missus. Apperson went down to
- 12:48Speaker 4: the bank where the Aversens had their account. With the
- 12:51Speaker 4: help of the manager, we found that three checks had
- 12:53Speaker 4: been passed on the Aperson checking account since the previous Wednesday,
- 12:57Speaker 4: a full day after the missing couple had been last seen.
- 13:00Speaker 4: One check was for one hundred dollars and two for
- 13:02Speaker 4: fifty dollars each. All of them had been cast in
- 13:04Speaker 4: Los Angeles and all bore the signature Walter Apperson. After
- 13:08Speaker 4: examination was found each signature had been carefully forged.
- 13:12Speaker 6: Ten forty five Am went back to the office.
- 13:16Speaker 5: Are you too going somelers?
- 13:17Speaker 12: Oh?
- 13:18Speaker 5: Hi, Ray now just coming?
- 13:19Speaker 6: He finished checking it stuff as a crime man.
- 13:21Speaker 12: Yeah, I was passing over this way. I thought i'd
- 13:24Speaker 12: drop off a re portfolio. Got it right here?
- 13:26Speaker 6: How to go?
- 13:27Speaker 12: Finger Prints on that bottle of cynode letton Prince gotta make.
- 13:31Speaker 12: Here's the name on it, Frank was Aperson.
- 13:35Speaker 6: You look over those dirty dishes we found.
- 13:37Speaker 5: In the Aperson house, checked them through nothing.
- 13:40Speaker 6: How about the samples you took from those cups?
- 13:41Speaker 12: Iever drank? That cuffee is in trouble, it's loaded. Yeah enough,
- 13:45Speaker 12: sign I had to kill a horse.
- 13:57Speaker 3: You are listening to Dragnet, the case history of a
- 13:59Speaker 3: police investigation presented in the public interest.
- 14:09Speaker 6: Monday, one PM.
- 14:10Speaker 4: We obtained a specimen of Frank buzz Aferson's signature and
- 14:13Speaker 4: we had Don Myers and Handwriting check it out against
- 14:15Speaker 4: the signatures on.
- 14:16Speaker 6: The three checks.
- 14:18Speaker 4: Both styles of handwriting matched in every detail. At one
- 14:21Speaker 4: thirty PM, the parents of buzz Aferson's two friends called
- 14:25Speaker 4: to tell us that their sons were back from their
- 14:27Speaker 4: camping trip. We checked the Aperson home. The nephew wasn't there.
- 14:31Speaker 4: We drove out to see his two friends. Under questioning,
- 14:33Speaker 4: one of them finally broke and admitted that buzz Aperson
- 14:36Speaker 4: had not gone with him on the camping trip. In
- 14:38Speaker 4: the process of questioning the boys, one of them told
- 14:40Speaker 4: us that he had been with a suspect two days
- 14:42Speaker 4: before the trip when he purchased some medicine at the
- 14:44Speaker 4: campus drug store.
- 14:46Speaker 6: We went to the drug store and checked the prescription book.
- 14:48Speaker 4: It showed Frank buzz Aferson had purchased and signed for
- 14:51Speaker 4: a bottle of cyanide two days before the disappearance of his.
- 14:53Speaker 6: Aunt and uncle. Ben and I drove back to the
- 14:56Speaker 6: Aperson house. When we arrived the officers on stakeout had
- 14:59Speaker 6: the boy and co. No.
- 15:02Speaker 5: I'm sorry, officers, I wish I could help you out.
- 15:04Speaker 5: But well, maybe it's not as bad as you think.
- 15:07Speaker 5: When did you last see your aunt and uncle Monday
- 15:09Speaker 5: before I left on the camping trip. Is there in
- 15:11Speaker 5: the habit of going off like this other? Oh? Sure,
- 15:14Speaker 5: Aunt Kate and Uncle Walter have friends all over. They
- 15:16Speaker 5: go on trips all the time. That's so how do
- 15:18Speaker 5: they get there? They drive, both of them. They've been
- 15:21Speaker 5: driving for years.
- 15:22Speaker 6: We talk to your uncle's friend, mister Stokely next door.
- 15:26Speaker 6: He says, your aunt and uncle I haven't been driving
- 15:27Speaker 6: for at least a year and a half.
- 15:28Speaker 5: Stokely the barber. He's one of the neighborhood cranks. Sergeant,
- 15:32Speaker 5: Anybody around here can tell you that mind's everybody's business
- 15:35Speaker 5: but his own. You don't seem too worried about your
- 15:38Speaker 5: aunt and Klin think they're all right. Well, we'd have
- 15:41Speaker 5: heard by now if they weren't, don't you think, sir,
- 15:43Speaker 5: They probably took off on a trip that's just about
- 15:46Speaker 5: the size of it.
- 15:47Speaker 6: I think now about this trip of yours, sir, Well,
- 15:51Speaker 6: this camping trip that you just come from, Oh, a.
- 15:54Speaker 5: Couple fellas from school. We went camping up by Big
- 15:56Speaker 5: Bear for a week. Pretty good fishing for September. Ever
- 15:59Speaker 5: been up there? Yeah, of you for sure. I just
- 16:03Speaker 5: said that's why we've been camping. So I'm a little thirsty.
- 16:08Speaker 5: There's a couple of bottles of ale in the refrigerator.
- 16:10Speaker 5: Care for a bottle?
- 16:11Speaker 6: No?
- 16:12Speaker 5: Would you mind if I had one? Sure could use it.
- 16:15Speaker 6: No, you go right ahead when you talk.
- 16:16Speaker 5: In the kitchen places in kind of a mess, so
- 16:20Speaker 5: I'll have to go in and clean it up. Is
- 16:22Speaker 5: your rent usually leave in a hurry like that?
- 16:24Speaker 6: Not?
- 16:25Speaker 5: Usually? No dishes all over the place. She probably figured
- 16:28Speaker 5: she'd wait till she got back to clean up. Aunt
- 16:35Speaker 5: Kate does things like that once in a while. That's her. Yeah,
- 16:39Speaker 5: she's like that sometimes. Well happy days?
- 16:45Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, buzz. You want to tell us where are they?
- 16:54Speaker 6: Your rent and uncle? What happened?
- 16:56Speaker 5: See? I don't think I know what you're talking about.
- 16:58Speaker 5: What's the trouble?
- 16:59Speaker 7: Come on, you know what the trouble is. Let's have
- 17:01Speaker 7: a straight story. I'm gonna save a lot of time, sir.
- 17:04Speaker 7: We can draw it out as long as you lie.
- 17:07Speaker 7: It'd be a lot easier if you co operate.
- 17:09Speaker 5: Look, I don't know what you're thinking, sergeant, but whatever
- 17:12Speaker 5: it is, I don't understand you. What are you getting at.
- 17:14Speaker 6: Something's happened to your aunt and uncle. We're pretty sure
- 17:16Speaker 6: you know what it is.
- 17:16Speaker 5: Well, how could I I've been away in this camping trip.
- 17:19Speaker 6: You've been away, but not on a camping trip, sir.
- 17:21Speaker 7: We've checked you out from the day you came to
- 17:23Speaker 7: live with your aunt and uncle. Boy, you're gonna make
- 17:26Speaker 7: us spell out the whole record.
- 17:27Speaker 5: Boy, but I've been away. I just got back. I
- 17:30Speaker 5: don't know what's happened.
- 17:31Speaker 6: We found a bottle of cyanide in the basement cupboard.
- 17:33Speaker 6: Your fingerprints are all over it.
- 17:34Speaker 5: Well, sure that figures. We use it for bug poison
- 17:37Speaker 5: in the garden. I take care of the garden. I
- 17:38Speaker 5: use it all the time, use it in coffee, sir.
- 17:41Speaker 4: The police chemist checked what was left in two of
- 17:43Speaker 4: the cups that were on the table. There cyanide in
- 17:45Speaker 4: both of them. And have to kill six people. Hell, look, boy,
- 17:49Speaker 4: we've talked to your neighbors, your teachers, your girlfriend Norma,
- 17:52Speaker 4: and those two pals you were supposed to go camping with.
- 17:54Speaker 4: Now we can drag all of them out if we
- 17:56Speaker 4: have to. They're gonna make a liar out of you, Sir.
- 17:58Speaker 4: I think you got it the first time.
- 18:00Speaker 5: There couldn't be any cyanide in those cups. Why should
- 18:03Speaker 5: there be?
- 18:03Speaker 10: What you think?
- 18:04Speaker 5: You didn't tell us that, But I can't. I don't
- 18:06Speaker 5: know anything about this. I haven't any idea what you're
- 18:08Speaker 5: talking about.
- 18:09Speaker 6: It?
- 18:09Speaker 5: Is this some kind of a gag? You know better
- 18:12Speaker 5: than men?
- 18:13Speaker 4: How about those checks buzz, sir, the ones you forged
- 18:16Speaker 4: your uncle's signature on.
- 18:17Speaker 6: You need the money?
- 18:17Speaker 2: That man.
- 18:18Speaker 5: I didn't forge any checks. I was away on a
- 18:21Speaker 5: camping trip. David Willie were with me. They can tell
- 18:24Speaker 5: you he got in.
- 18:24Speaker 6: A row with your uncle, maybe about that stolen cars,
- 18:27Speaker 6: that how it happened.
- 18:28Speaker 5: He'd had nothing to do with it. I want to
- 18:30Speaker 5: see Norma. I want to talk to David Willie. They'll
- 18:32Speaker 5: tell you.
- 18:32Speaker 6: How about the man at the campus drugs, Sir, when
- 18:35Speaker 6: you bought the cyanide from? He won't talk to him too.
- 18:38Speaker 5: Look are you two fellas kidding me? This must be
- 18:41Speaker 5: some kind of a gag. Is it?
- 18:42Speaker 4: Your aunt and uncle are missing? There's evidence of foul
- 18:44Speaker 4: PLAYE dow does that sound like a joke.
- 18:46Speaker 5: How should I know where they are? I wasn't there.
- 18:49Speaker 5: I want to talk to Norma. I want to see
- 18:52Speaker 5: Davin Willie. They'll tell you. Why don't we drive over
- 18:55Speaker 5: and see him?
- 18:55Speaker 6: Now? Sorry? With us, I won't get your coat.
- 18:59Speaker 5: Sure, Alma is a girl. I'm engaged to Dadan Willie.
- 19:03Speaker 5: Are my best friends? You know everything about me? Couple
- 19:07Speaker 5: real nice guys and so sure.
- 19:12Speaker 6: That's cooling.
- 19:13Speaker 5: Yeah, Davian Willy been all through school with me, thinking about.
- 19:17Speaker 6: You for me. Yeah.
- 19:19Speaker 5: Sure you can take their word too.
- 19:21Speaker 6: We will. Five point fifty pm, we left the Avererson house,
- 19:27Speaker 6: dove across.
- 19:28Speaker 4: Town and headed over the Arroyo Seco toward the home
- 19:30Speaker 4: of the suspect's friend, Dave Killer for six thirty three pm,
- 19:34Speaker 4: which ak a right turn off the freeway, headed south
- 19:36Speaker 4: for another mile, and finally pulled up in front of
- 19:38Speaker 4: the Killer for home.
- 19:39Speaker 6: Buzz Afferson's friend Dave met us at the front door.
- 19:43Speaker 5: What's it all about anyway, Buss? What's the pitch? Well,
- 19:46Speaker 5: that's what I want to know. Look, is this some
- 19:48Speaker 5: kind of a gag you guys cooked up on me?
- 19:51Speaker 5: We were on the trip, buzz I don't know anything
- 19:53Speaker 5: about any gag. What's all this about your aunt and knuckle?
- 19:56Speaker 5: I don't know that's what these officers want to find out.
- 20:00Speaker 7: I'd like to have you tell us again. Dave, was
- 20:02Speaker 7: Buzz here with you on that gaming drip?
- 20:04Speaker 5: Sure, that's why we came over. I'll tell him about it,
- 20:07Speaker 5: you know.
- 20:09Speaker 6: All right? Let's have it, Dave? Was he with you
- 20:12Speaker 6: on that trip?
- 20:14Speaker 5: These officers aren't kidding Buzz. They want the truth. Well
- 20:16Speaker 5: tell him I was with you and Willie. We went
- 20:18Speaker 5: to Big Bear.
- 20:20Speaker 13: You're looking for your aunt and nuncle. I'm not gonna
- 20:23Speaker 13: lie now. You didn't go to Big Bear with us?
- 20:27Speaker 6: All right? Dave? Thanks?
- 20:29Speaker 5: Well, he's lying. Officers who put you up to this stunt?
- 20:33Speaker 6: Dave?
- 20:33Speaker 5: They'll throw you in the jug for a gag like this?
- 20:35Speaker 5: Who's behind it?
- 20:36Speaker 13: You're the guy who said it was a gag? He
- 20:39Speaker 13: told us to tell everybody Rubbert the Big Bear was
- 20:41Speaker 13: Willy and me? How about leveling? What's it about? He's lying?
- 20:47Speaker 13: What's it about?
- 20:48Speaker 5: You've got nothing to hide?
- 20:51Speaker 10: Have you?
- 20:51Speaker 5: He's lying? You can tell that, can't you. Let's go
- 20:56Speaker 5: talk to Willie. He'll tell you the truth. Joe, all right,
- 21:01Speaker 5: thank you, Dave. That's all all right, sergeant. Sure, there
- 21:04Speaker 5: isn't anything I can do.
- 21:05Speaker 6: Oh thanks, just the same, Good night.
- 21:07Speaker 5: Okay Knife. Anybody could tell he was lying, isn't that right? Sergeant?
- 21:15Speaker 6: Well he's your friend was Why do you say that?
- 21:18Speaker 5: Well? He was just plain lying, that's all. Couldn't you tell?
- 21:22Speaker 6: No? I couldn't. How about you?
- 21:24Speaker 5: Ben? Mean, why would he lie? Boy? He told us
- 21:28Speaker 5: he was your pail. Some kind of a stupid gag.
- 21:31Speaker 5: They're pulling a gang in the fraternity. I belong to.
- 21:34Speaker 5: Dave's one of them. They've done it before. I don't
- 21:37Speaker 5: know why they're lying, but they are.
- 21:40Speaker 6: Where's your friend? Will he live?
- 21:41Speaker 5: Sir?
- 21:42Speaker 6: You said he wanted to drive over and have us
- 21:44Speaker 6: talk to Willie?
- 21:45Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, where does he live? Look? Would you mind
- 21:49Speaker 5: very much? How's that? I got a terrible headache? Would
- 21:54Speaker 5: you mind very much? Just driving around a while, like
- 21:57Speaker 5: to clear my head a little and figure this thing out?
- 22:01Speaker 6: All right? Once you roll down the window there, buzz.
- 22:07Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, yeah it feels good. Sure it's hot out tonight. Yeah.
- 22:20Speaker 5: Uh been a pretty long summer, hasn't it?
- 22:24Speaker 6: Yeah? It has? Say?
- 22:28Speaker 5: I guess maybe we ought to forget about going over
- 22:30Speaker 5: to Willie's place. He strings along with the rest. He'd
- 22:33Speaker 5: probably lie too, he said, you wanted to want to
- 22:35Speaker 5: just have a cok with him? Yeah, but I've been
- 22:38Speaker 5: thinking about it. He'd only lie. It'd be better if
- 22:40Speaker 5: we drove over to see Norma. That's the girl I'm
- 22:42Speaker 5: engaged to.
- 22:43Speaker 6: Yeah, that's what we understand.
- 22:44Speaker 5: If anybody can give you a straight story, Norma can.
- 22:47Speaker 5: She doesn't live far straight down the road here in
- 22:49Speaker 5: the San Marino.
- 22:50Speaker 6: Yeah, we know.
- 22:51Speaker 5: Oh, sure would appreciate it if you drive over there. Okay,
- 22:56Speaker 5: Norma can straighten this thing out. Swell girl, we're going
- 22:59Speaker 5: to get married as soon as we can.
- 23:01Speaker 6: Oh.
- 23:02Speaker 5: Yeah, she saw me leave on that trip to Big Bear.
- 23:07Speaker 5: She won't lie to you. Sure. Wish my aunt and
- 23:11Speaker 5: uncle had left a note where they were going.
- 23:14Speaker 6: All this trouble, you might have finally had a couple
- 23:19Speaker 6: of things for you. Buzz.
- 23:20Speaker 4: How what do you mean when a police officer picked
- 23:23Speaker 4: somebody up, he's got a good reason for it.
- 23:25Speaker 5: Yeah, but Dave was lying, Sergeant. You know that.
- 23:27Speaker 6: It's a lot more on what Dave had to say.
- 23:30Speaker 6: You've done something wrong.
- 23:31Speaker 4: We don't know what exactly, but We've got an idea
- 23:33Speaker 4: and we're gonna find out.
- 23:34Speaker 5: You can't prove anything. I got that cyanide for the garden.
- 23:37Speaker 5: We used around the house for different things.
- 23:39Speaker 6: You don't use it in coffee cups. What happened? Boy?
- 23:42Speaker 6: Where's your aunt and uncle?
- 23:44Speaker 5: Next? Turn for normous house? Up by the signal, turn left?
- 23:47Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, buzz you know what happened. You're gonna
- 23:51Speaker 4: have to face it sooner or later. If it's not tonight,
- 23:53Speaker 4: then tomorrow morning or tomorrow night or the night after.
- 23:55Speaker 5: I don't know what happened.
- 23:56Speaker 6: The facts say you do, and they're not going to disappear. Now.
- 23:59Speaker 6: You made the problem. It's going to stick out in
- 24:00Speaker 6: front of you ill you find an answer. How about it?
- 24:03Speaker 5: Normal? No, what to do? Way till I talk to normal?
- 24:06Speaker 6: Why don't you stand up and face it? Boy? Getting
- 24:08Speaker 6: your girl mixed up? And this isn't gonna help.
- 24:10Speaker 5: She'll know what to do.
- 24:12Speaker 6: Can she finds your aunt and uncle? Can't she? How
- 24:18Speaker 6: about the three checks? How about them? Can she explain
- 24:22Speaker 6: those signatures that you forged? Maybe those fingerprints in the
- 24:26Speaker 6: cyanide bottle? Can she help you out there?
- 24:31Speaker 5: Oh?
- 24:31Speaker 4: Look, Buzz, I believe you you love the girl if
- 24:33Speaker 4: you want to mixed up in all this.
- 24:35Speaker 5: Where we are Joe.
- 24:38Speaker 6: Okay, that's the right house, isn't it.
- 24:45Speaker 5: Yeah, that's Normo's house.
- 24:48Speaker 6: All right, what's it gonna be? Do we win?
- 24:52Speaker 5: She cries?
- 24:53Speaker 14: She only cried. Norma thinks he'll love to me. Yeah,
- 24:58Speaker 14: she's a swell girl. I don't want to have to
- 25:00Speaker 14: tell her she don't cried. Yeah, I killed my half
- 25:05Speaker 14: and uncle.
- 25:10Speaker 6: Eight pm.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Buzz Avererson directed us to drive to San Pedro, to
- 25:13Speaker 4: the west basin of the Los Angeles Harbor.
- 25:16Speaker 6: We got out of the car and followed him to
- 25:17Speaker 6: the end of one of the piers. He told us
- 25:19Speaker 6: the story and we put in a call to the office.
- 25:22Speaker 4: Within half an hour, fireboat and a barge were on
- 25:25Speaker 4: the scene, and a diver was sent down into the
- 25:26Speaker 4: water a few yards from the.
- 25:28Speaker 6: Edge of the pier. We stood by and watched buzz Afferson.
- 25:31Speaker 3: Ben and I.
- 25:33Speaker 5: I put quite a bit of sign I had in
- 25:34Speaker 5: the coffee. I had to be sure I ge managed
- 25:37Speaker 5: to get both of them in the car. I waited
- 25:39Speaker 5: till way after dark, and then I dragged him out,
- 25:43Speaker 5: drove down to the end of the pier right here
- 25:45Speaker 5: put the car in low. He went over right where
- 25:50Speaker 5: the diver went down, just at this end of the barge.
- 25:54Speaker 5: All right, there was lines up there. You've got to
- 26:02Speaker 5: stand back and yeah, watch it.
- 26:08Speaker 6: Okay, so let's go.
- 26:16Speaker 5: But yeah, my aunt only one thing missing, boy, sir?
- 26:23Speaker 5: The reason why'd you do it?
- 26:26Speaker 15: I'm not sure anymore? Stolen cart, trouble. I guess my
- 26:31Speaker 15: trial was coming up. All I have of trouble. I
- 26:35Speaker 15: didn't want my aunt and uncle to go through all that.
- 26:38Speaker 6: I mean, that's why you killed him, I think so.
- 26:42Speaker 5: I didn't want him to be ashamed of me. That
- 26:45Speaker 5: must sound funny.
- 26:46Speaker 6: Nobody's gonna believe it.
- 26:48Speaker 5: I suppose I don't. Yeah, would make any difference.
- 26:58Speaker 2: The story you have just heard is true, only the
- 27:01Speaker 2: names were changed to protect the innocent.
- 27:04Speaker 3: On December fifteenth, trial was held in Superior Court, Department
- 27:07Speaker 3: ninety two, City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.
- 27:10Speaker 3: In a moment the results of that trial.
- 27:12Speaker 6: And now here is our star, Jack Webb, thank you.
- 27:16Speaker 4: To successfully prosecute a criminal suspect, the working detective gathers
- 27:19Speaker 4: all available physical evidence in the crime lab. This evidence
- 27:22Speaker 4: is carefully selected in screened to determine its worth.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Frank buzz Apperson was tried and convicted of murder in
- 27:35Speaker 3: the first degree and sentenced to life imprisonment. He is
- 27:38Speaker 3: now serving his term in the state penitentiary.
- 27:43Speaker 6: You have just heard.
- 27:43Speaker 3: Dragnet, a series of authentic cases from official files. Technical
- 27:47Speaker 3: advice for Dragnet comes from the Office of Chief of
- 27:50Speaker 3: Police W. H. Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.
- 27:53Speaker 6: Coming up, Duffies Tavern, be sure to hear theodre Gil
- 27:55Speaker 6: Sunday on NBC.
- 28:06Speaker 1: Welcome Back. This is a case where the killer has
- 28:09Speaker 1: some cleverness but thinks he is far more clever than
- 28:13Speaker 1: he really is. He left so many holes and made
- 28:16Speaker 1: so many mistakes, yet somehow he imagined he's going to
- 28:19Speaker 1: pull the wool over the police's eyes and talk his
- 28:22Speaker 1: way out of it. This episode had me wondering what
- 28:26Speaker 1: else he might have gotten away with that made him
- 28:29Speaker 1: think that he could pull this. As it became more
- 28:32Speaker 1: and more apparent that the police had him dead to rights,
- 28:36Speaker 1: it finally took Friday cutting through his nonsense to point
- 28:40Speaker 1: out that someone he actually cared about would get hurt
- 28:43Speaker 1: if he continued in this. To get the guy to
- 28:45Speaker 1: see Sam Well now we turn to listener comments and feedback,
- 28:50Speaker 1: and we have a comment on YouTube regarding the Big Chance.
- 28:54Speaker 1: It's actually posted regarding the first time we played the
- 28:58Speaker 1: Big Chance back during season six. Nevertheless, it's still applicable.
- 29:04Speaker 1: Deliah writes, one of my favorite Dragnet episodes. I love
- 29:09Speaker 1: when there's a good fight between them and the bad guys.
- 29:14Speaker 1: I can really picture the fight or what I think
- 29:17Speaker 1: it looks like. Then I realize it's radio and what
- 29:20Speaker 1: it would have looked like. Thanks for all you do well,
- 29:23Speaker 1: thanks so much, Deliah and I would agree that this
- 29:26Speaker 1: was a solid fight scene, and Dragnet fight scenes are
- 29:32Speaker 1: usually really good because they don't happen all the time.
- 29:36Speaker 1: Most of the time, they're relatively short and not over indulgent.
- 29:40Speaker 1: I think the only exception to that would be in
- 29:43Speaker 1: the nineteen fifty four movie That one went on a
- 29:46Speaker 1: good while and it ended up with Friday and Smith
- 29:51Speaker 1: both being bloody messes at the end of it, which
- 29:54Speaker 1: does happen in police work but not typically on Dragnet.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I remember being shot by Frank Smith, being in this
- 30:02Speaker 1: really bloody fight, and I was like, wait, Frank Smith.
- 30:05Speaker 1: Frank Smith wouldn't do that cuddle a polite, friendly Frank Smith.
- 30:10Speaker 1: But that is realism. The friendliest well trained police officer
- 30:15Speaker 1: you can find has to be ready at a moment's
- 30:19Speaker 1: notice to engage in hand to hand combat when called upon.
- 30:24Speaker 1: And what dragging that portrays is that ninety nine percent
- 30:27Speaker 1: of the time plus that's not something that they're going
- 30:31Speaker 1: to engage in, but when called upon to do so,
- 30:35Speaker 1: they are ready to do so. Well, now it is
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- 31:38Speaker 11: Victor Mike Wearing. Please Mike, Well, how about you, bright eye.
- 31:44Speaker 6: I'm busy, but.
- 31:45Speaker 11: I thought you might be interested in this flash. It
- 31:47Speaker 11: just came over the teletype.
- 31:49Speaker 2: I'll read it to you.
- 31:50Speaker 11: Paul McKenzie and Wayne Thompson broke out of jail tonight
- 31:53Speaker 11: at nine thirty. May be headed for New York. These
- 31:57Speaker 11: men are dangerous. Use caution and apprehending. So doesn't it
- 32:01Speaker 11: mean anything to you?
- 32:02Speaker 5: Good?
- 32:03Speaker 11: I think so. Remember the Wibber hold up a few
- 32:07Speaker 11: years back. You represented the insurance company.
- 32:10Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Attendsey was the boy.
- 32:13Speaker 6: We grabbed me.
- 32:13Speaker 11: As I recall, he was kind of peeved at you.
- 32:16Speaker 11: Didn't he make a couple of threats.
- 32:18Speaker 6: I was just blowing off steam.
- 32:19Speaker 11: Well, I'm glad you feel that way. Frankly, I don't.
- 32:23Speaker 1: I hope you'll be with us then in the meantime.
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