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8-31-26 Hour 1 - Who survived Broncos cut-down day?/Makar's MONSTER extension/Aaron Donald is BACK · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 1: This is Mosher Lombardi and Kane On Demand. Listen live
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  Speaker 1: every weekday morning from 7 to 10 on Altitude Sports
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  Speaker 2: And on the Altitude Sports Radio app. Here's Ellinger doing
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  Speaker 2: a little dance, now loads up, fires middle to field,
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  Speaker 2: wide open at the 50-yard line.
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  Speaker 3: Justin Jolie running away from everybody.
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  Speaker 2: How about 88 yards to the house?
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  Speaker 3: 88 yards with 8.08 to play in the fourth quarter,
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  Speaker 3: and it's all Broncos now.
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  Speaker 2: Jolie! Cool touchdown, did not make the roster. Here's what's funny.
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  Speaker 2: We can all admit this, right? And I'm not... We
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  Speaker 2: aren't going to talk about the game because who really
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  Speaker 2: cares about the game? But that wasn't Joe Lee making
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  Speaker 2: some amazing play. That was a safety who just forgot
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  Speaker 2: he was playing football. It was a breakdown on defense.
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  Speaker 2: He handed him off to air.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, okay, I'm going to let this guy go
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  Speaker 3: by me because Jim's got it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know where Jim is?
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  Speaker 3: Jim's on the.
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  Speaker 2: Sideline having a hot dog because he's out of the game.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, I was.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Was I supposed to do football? I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know I was doing football at that moment. Anyway... So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot to get to today between the roster
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  Speaker 2: cut down and all the news in the NFL and
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  Speaker 2: Aaron Donald coming back and Caleb McCarr signing his new contract.
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  Speaker 2: But can I say this from the top? Whether you
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  Speaker 2: think it's a mistake to let go of Red Murdoch,
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  Speaker 2: which I do too, whether you think it's a mistake
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  Speaker 2: to not hang on to Justin Jolie, whether you're mad
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  Speaker 2: about Julio McLaughlin not being on the roster anymore, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: The biggest news from yesterday, without question, is Jonathan Cooper
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  Speaker 2: going on the commissioner's exempt list. That's the biggest news.
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  Speaker 2: You just lost somebody who averages nine sacks a year
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  Speaker 2: for X amount of time that we don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I was worried about that, Brett, and this whole linebacking
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  Speaker 3: situation to me is very interesting. Now, Jonah Ellis is
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  Speaker 3: going to get time. I'm sure that Tillman's going to
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  Speaker 3: get time. Q. Q's going to get time. All these
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  Speaker 3: guys are going to have an opportunity to take those snaps,
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  Speaker 3: but they ain't Jonathan Cooper, and you take a piece
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  Speaker 3: out of there.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say he's out of there for four games. Is
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  Speaker 2: it going to be six?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how many will it be?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we don't know. Max eight? Same thing that Josh
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  Speaker 2: Jacobs is in, by the way.
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  Speaker 3: That's correct.
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  Speaker 2: And his looks like a little more serious than Hooper's does,
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  Speaker 2: the Chargers. It does.
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  Speaker 3: But then, Vic, when you get into the, okay, you're
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  Speaker 3: already missing JFM out of that defensive line, and now
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  Speaker 3: you take away this guy. Not that these other guys
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  Speaker 3: can't play because they have, and they would anyway, but
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  Speaker 3: you take away another piece for enough time, and that's
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  Speaker 3: when I start to get Nervous. You know, I just
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  Speaker 3: start to get a little spidey sense going on.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand.
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  Speaker 4: I was listening to the appetizer hour, and you were
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  Speaker 4: going off on this Red Murdoch thing. You realize that
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  Speaker 4: they can bring these guys back to the practice squad, right?
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  Speaker 2: Hang on. What do you consider going? I wasn't yelling
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  Speaker 2: and screaming. I know, but everybody, maybe not you. I'm generalizing.
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  Speaker 2: People are worried about losing Red Murdoch. You said you
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  Speaker 2: were listening to the appetizer.
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  Speaker 4: Justin Jolie and all these guys. Everybody listening, you understand that.
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  Speaker 4: Just because these guys are cut doesn't mean they're now ex-Broncos.
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  Speaker 4: The chances of these guys getting claimed by other teams
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  Speaker 4: is minimal. So they're going to be Broncos in some
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  Speaker 4: way or another.
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  Speaker 2: I don't understand. There's so much rah-rah about cutting draft picks.
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  Speaker 4: I'd look at it the other way. Your team is set.
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  Speaker 4: You got a really bonafide, tough roster.
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  Speaker 2: It's tough to make this team. Big deal. So a
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  Speaker 2: seventh rounder didn't make the team and you guys are
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  Speaker 2: crying about it? What the hell's going on? By my count,
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  Speaker 2: I think this is right. There's only five new guys? Six.
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  Speaker 2: Is there six?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I was missing somebody. Five, six new ones that are
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  Speaker 2: on the roster this year. Now, again, there's still stuff
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  Speaker 2: they have to do because right now for Brony is...
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  Speaker 2: He was not on the 53, but he's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to be because you need a long snapper. So
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  Speaker 2: maybe he's practice squad, elevate to game day guy. I
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  Speaker 2: have no idea, but there's things they have to do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they play those.
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  Speaker 3: They call it, I think, like he calls it gymnastics,
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  Speaker 3: which is what it is.
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  Speaker 2: But bottom line is, I think that by far the
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  Speaker 2: biggest thing from yesterday's news was that Jonathan Cooper, at
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  Speaker 2: least for the moment, is not going to be here. Now,
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  Speaker 2: Legwald told us on Thursday, there is likely a suspension coming.
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  Speaker 2: You just don't know how long it's going to be.
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  Speaker 2: But if you're losing somebody that has, again, averaging nine
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  Speaker 2: sacks a year for you, that's not a small loss
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  Speaker 2: from your roster. It is not. That's a big loss.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: And again, when you pair that with the loss of
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  Speaker 3: JFM in the middle. And I like all these guys.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong. I like DJ. And I know
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  Speaker 3: what Allen can do. And I know what Roach can do.
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  Speaker 3: And Wazirike and the rookie. All these different guys.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 3: But when you start to just take away your little pieces,
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  Speaker 3: and these are big pieces, but you start to take
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  Speaker 3: them away, it changes the dynamic just enough. And so
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  Speaker 3: you have to overcome that, which is what I'm hoping
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  Speaker 3: they're going to be able to do also. I watch DMACC.
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  Speaker 3: I watch his stuff after the games. Vic, do you
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  Speaker 3: watch DMACC stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes. When I have time, I do. He's not on
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  Speaker 2: a trash can anymore. Remember last year he was on
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  Speaker 2: a trash can like Oscar the Grouch? He'll be joining
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  Speaker 2: us on Altitude this year. We're going to upgrade our
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  Speaker 2: postgame show. We're going to be doing our postgame show
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  Speaker 2: live from the stadium every week. That's awesome.
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  Speaker 3: And he now has a park bench that he's set
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  Speaker 3: up on. Much nicer setup. Anyway, I watch his whole
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  Speaker 3: postgame thing. And the amount of people... who were chiming
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  Speaker 3: in about guys who were not going to make the roster.
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  Speaker 2: You know, and Jolie looked awesome.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, dude, I guess I'm kind of surprised
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  Speaker 3: they kept the other seventh-round pick tied in.
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  Speaker 2: That's so funny. You're so right about that. It's as
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  Speaker 2: if people forget how football works.
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  Speaker 4: Justin Jolie scored on a very long touchdown passing catch.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It was because the defense broke down. He literally was
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  Speaker 2: standing still when he caught the ball and then turned
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  Speaker 2: and ran and nobody caught him. I mean, do people think.
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  Speaker 4: And I hope the kid turns around and makes the
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  Speaker 4: practice squad and I'm not trying to demean or denigrate
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  Speaker 4: him by anything.
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  Speaker 2: Me either. But for someone to say, ha ha, man,
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  Speaker 2: did you see him? Did you see that? Are we
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  Speaker 2: watching the same game? Also the Cody Schrader angle. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: Cody Schrader's rad. Cody Schrader's got to be.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, it's... It's garbage time in the final preseason game, bro.
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  Speaker 3: He's not on the 53. Now, maybe he's a practice
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  Speaker 3: squad guy, and you can appreciate the way he runs,
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  Speaker 3: but we have to be real about who the Denver
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  Speaker 3: Broncos are as a team. And there's no way he
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  Speaker 3: was going to supplant the first three guys. And now,
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  Speaker 3: as Bidet has made the roster, four guys.
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  Speaker 2: Well, that one, people were surprised when Jaleel got cut.
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  Speaker 2: Special teams. I said last week, I'm like, Jaleel's off
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  Speaker 2: the roster. The second that they said Coleman's good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Jaleel is gone. That's a special teams thing. You understand that. Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Jaleel is too small to be a special teamer. Bidet
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  Speaker 2: can at least be the up back and overrule Sean
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  Speaker 2: Payton on fake punts if he wants to. That's the
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  Speaker 2: reason he's on the roster, though, is Bidet does the
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  Speaker 2: special team stuff and Jaleel just can't do it.
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  Speaker 3: He's too small.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the way I see it.
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  Speaker 4: If you have the cojones to overrule the head coach
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  Speaker 4: on a fake punt in a playoff game, by God,
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  Speaker 4: you're making the team.
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  Speaker 2: I tell you what, Vic. If Jaquan McMillan doesn't pick
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  Speaker 2: that pass off, I bet you Jaleel McLaughlin's on this
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  Speaker 2: roster and Bidet ain't. Yeah, could change things. If they
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  Speaker 2: lose that game because they don't run a fake punt
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  Speaker 2: and he's overruled by him. Hey, I do.
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  Speaker 4: Agree with you, though, regarding the three quarterback thing. And
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  Speaker 4: I have a theory.
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  Speaker 2: I have a theory on that.
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  Speaker 4: It is a make or break here, right? When I
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  Speaker 4: say make or break, you're making a run at this thing.
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  Speaker 4: You're a Super Bowl team, right? You fashion yourself as
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  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl roster. So you want to make sure
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  Speaker 4: that you've got everything taken care of. If you're stuck
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  Speaker 4: with your third string quarterback during a a lengthy course
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  Speaker 4: of the season, it's over.
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  Speaker 2: You're not making the Super Bowl. So I don't know
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  Speaker 2: why three quarterbacks is necessary, but I have a theory
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  Speaker 2: on why. Okay. Let me lay out the case first
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  Speaker 2: of what I was talking about. So this was Sam
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  Speaker 2: Ellinger after the final preseason game in the locker room
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  Speaker 2: talking to Scotty Gange of Nine News. And he was asked,
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  Speaker 2: would you rather be a three here or a two elsewhere?
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  Speaker 2: And he said... It's a good question. It depends on
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  Speaker 2: the situation. For the number two, I know that This
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  Speaker 2: is probably the best number three job in the league.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what opportunities there are. I saw that
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  Speaker 2: and I was like, I kind of cocked an eyebrow.
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  Speaker 2: I was like, man, is he really going to consider
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  Speaker 2: staying here again? And then I saw the cut down day.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of backup quarterbacks get flipped for six round
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  Speaker 2: picks or something like that. And I go, well, maybe
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  Speaker 2: that's going to be, he didn't get moved. So here's
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  Speaker 2: my entire point to this. And if there's one thing to,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about Red Murdoch specifically.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: Because I think he's a good player that I'll just
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  Speaker 2: lay it out like this. I'm not the smartest guy
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  Speaker 2: in the world. We know. We're well aware of that, Brett.
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  Speaker 2: But I know how numbers work. Jarrett Stidham played in
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  Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game last year. It's the first snap
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  Speaker 2: he took in the NFL in how many years? Two
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  Speaker 2: and a half.
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  Speaker 3: Two years, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Ellinger didn't take any snaps in the NFL for two years.
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  Speaker 3: That's also true.
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  Speaker 2: If Red Murdoch made this team on the 53, Red
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  Speaker 2: Murdoch would play. Maybe not start, but he'd play some snaps.
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  Speaker 2: He'd fill in, do an injury. He'd do special teams.
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  Speaker 2: He'd do stuff like that. You know who's not going
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  Speaker 2: to play? Sam Ellinger. So why save the roster spot? Ideally,
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  Speaker 2: he would not play. Well, Mo, if he plays, you're screwed.
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing against him, but if we're talking about going to
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  Speaker 2: a third string quarterback, you aren't winning at that point.
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  Speaker 2: So my whole thought process is Red Murdoch would be
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  Speaker 2: somebody that would play snaps this year. Maybe here and there,
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  Speaker 2: maybe some special teams, but why do you think they
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  Speaker 2: kept them? It doesn't make sense to me.
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  Speaker 4: My theory is twofold. Number one, I believe they think
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  Speaker 4: that this guy... You sound like an MIT guy.
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  Speaker 2: My theory is twofold. I would like to enumerate each
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  Speaker 2: point individually. Go ahead, I'm sorry. Go ahead, nerd.
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  Speaker 3: Friggin' nerd.
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  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I'm not busy. Trying to catch my breath
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  Speaker 4: in the morning like you are.
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  Speaker 2: God. He comes into the studio.
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  Speaker 3: Is it just me?
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  Speaker 2: Or is it the few times I come into the
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  Speaker 2: studio I notice it too? The guy spends the first
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  Speaker 2: half hour trying to catch his breath. Give me a theory.
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  Speaker 2: Would you run here? Give me a theory. God. I
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  Speaker 2: forgot it now. You said it was twofold. Twofold. Here
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  Speaker 2: it is.
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  Speaker 3: Number one.
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  Speaker 2: They like his talents. Clearly. They think he can become something.
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  Speaker 2: Number two.
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  Speaker 4: They made a deal with him in the offseason that says, listen,
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  Speaker 4: you may not be number two next year, but eventually
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  Speaker 4: you know we're going to do this thing with Bo Nix,
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  Speaker 4: and you know that Jared Stidham's contract is going to
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  Speaker 4: have to go away. You know that's happening. So we're
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  Speaker 4: going to develop you. You're a long-term guy on this team.
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  Speaker 4: We want you to ride with Bo, you and Bo, long-term.
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  Speaker 4: Stick around as long as you can.
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  Speaker 2: You will be that guy. Maybe that's the case.
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  Speaker 3: That feels like a very good theory. Not as good
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  Speaker 3: as Einstein's relativity.
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  Speaker 2: Close. But it's maybe second in line. There's the quadratic equation,
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  Speaker 2: and then there's that. Absolutely. Also... But.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Here's an idea. How about you're the number two now? Well,
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  Speaker 2: they don't think... If you like him that much.
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  Speaker 4: They don't think he's developed enough. And plus, they have
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  Speaker 4: the extra cash to spend on the number two, since
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  Speaker 4: they're not paying Bo yet. They have that money to
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  Speaker 4: spend on the number two. So they might as well
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  Speaker 4: keep the quarterback room intact. Maybe they feel Bo needs
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  Speaker 4: Jarrett Stidham's support for whatever reason. That quarterback room, there's
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  Speaker 4: a lot of ideas, a lot of energy.
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  Speaker 2: They work together. They're all young. They're all ambitious.
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  Speaker 4: They like the room. They want to keep it together.
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  Speaker 4: When it's time for Bo to get paid, that's when
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  Speaker 4: it all blows up.
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  Speaker 3: That's another part of the theory I think that's pretty
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  Speaker 3: dang good. Okay, so you're worried about the roster spot.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me what these four teams have in common.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about it. It just doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 3: Tell me what these four teams have in common. Minnesota, Philadelphia,
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  Speaker 3: and Pittsburgh.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Atlanta, Minnesota, and Pittsburgh have terrible quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 3: As we sit here right now, All of those teams,
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  Speaker 3: as we sit here this morning, have four quarterbacks on
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  Speaker 3: the active 53. Not three, like the Denver Broncos and
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  Speaker 3: you're like that spot. I mean, imagine what they're going through.
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  Speaker 3: Now they have four quarterbacks on the active, which is
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  Speaker 3: insane in today's day and age.
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  Speaker 2: But here they are. Well, outside of Philly, those teams stink. Well, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah. By the way, you know who the
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  Speaker 3: backup is to Kyler Murray in mini?
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  Speaker 2: It's McCarthy. I don't think it is. He's still on
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  Speaker 2: the roster.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's Carson Wentz.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it is. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: They blew that first rounder, didn't they?
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  Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing, though. Again, it used to be
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  Speaker 2: just common NFL practice to have three guys on your
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  Speaker 2: depth chart at quarterback. And then that changed. And I
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  Speaker 2: think it changed because we all knew when we saw
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  Speaker 2: that guy just doesn't play. He never plays. If he does...
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  Speaker 2: then your team's imploding already. And I just, I don't
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  Speaker 2: understand the point to it. That's all. You need to
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  Speaker 2: have a third quarterback on somewhere within your roster, meaning
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  Speaker 2: practice squad. Well, how bad was it for San Francisco?
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  Speaker 2: Remember when... They brought Purdy back in, and he couldn't
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  Speaker 2: throw with his throwing hand. Yeah, he was throwing left-handed.
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  Speaker 2: He's throwing the football left-handed. They're having Christian McCaffrey throw
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  Speaker 2: the ball. He literally couldn't throw the ball with his
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  Speaker 2: throwing arm, so they had to throw it left-handed with
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  Speaker 2: pitches and everything. By the way, if they had a
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  Speaker 2: third quarterback on their roster, because Josh Johnson was their backup.
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  Speaker 2: He had a concussion that game. If they had a
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  Speaker 2: third quarterback on their roster... their chances to win would
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  Speaker 2: be the exact same as Brock Purdy throwing left-handed.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, I don't know if your little computer will tell
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  Speaker 4: you this, but the Broncos have to lead the NFL
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  Speaker 4: in retention rate for their roster. Their initial 53 only
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  Speaker 4: has six new players, six guys who did not play
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  Speaker 4: for the team last season. One of them was via trade.
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  Speaker 4: One of them was a free agent. The rest of them,
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  Speaker 4: draft picks. And to me, it's got to be some
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  Speaker 4: sort of record in the NFL this year. There can't
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  Speaker 4: be any other team close to that.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll try and find that during the break.
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  Speaker 3: And what did I tell you about Drew Sanders, dude?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, he's going to play.
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  Speaker 3: If you can't get on the field, you can't make
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  Speaker 3: the roster, man.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot more to get to with this as
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  Speaker 2: we go along. I want to talk about Kale's contract
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  Speaker 2: extension because we have the numbers on it now. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll get there in just a couple of minutes. Stick around.
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  Speaker 2: Out there with Natchez and McKinnon. Landeskog wins it for McKinnon.
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  Speaker 2: Hands it off. McCarr. Far circle. McCarr. He scores! Kale
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  Speaker 2: goes in three straight games for the great number eight.
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  Speaker 2: And Colorado has the lead back at 6-5. All right,
• 15:39
  Speaker 2: so we knew the extension was happening for Kale. We'll
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: get back to the NFL and cut down day in
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: just a second. But the Kale extension was announced, what,
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: four or five days ago. We just didn't know the
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: term until late last week. Turns out it's eight years, $ 20. 4
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: million per year, which even if you thought Cale was
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: signing the highest contract in the history of the league,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: I don't think anybody had about $ 20. 5 per.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: This was all going down when we were playing golf
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: with the boss on Friday, and Kyle and Mark were
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: in the same cart, and they were nerding out over it,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: wondering how this would all fit in. And I think
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: we were all surprised by the final numbers, right?
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: The final numbers, even Moj, I know you had some guesses,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: but I don't think even you... would have predicted eight
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: years at those numbers. Those were higher than most anticipated.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but not without understanding that he was going to
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: be the highest paid guy. Now, I guess that was
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: just a matter of what. The interesting part is the
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: most he could have made, Brett, is $ 20. 8 million per year.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: You know that, right?
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Because you can only have one player having a certain
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: percentage of the salary.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: So he comes in at 20.4. You said it yourself.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: If you're Joe Sackick and you have the conversation with Cale,
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: I'll be Cale.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: Hi, Cale. Hi, Joe. You want money?
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Lots.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: How much do you want? Okay, well, I'll sign my
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: name at the bottom of this check, and then you
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: write down the number, and then we'll just go on. Okay,
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: sounds good.
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: Thanks, bud.
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: That's literally how it goes. That's your negotiation. Listen, he's
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: won two Norrises already. Mm-hmm. And you have to keep
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: in mind, guys, he's just now barely... You ever heard
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: of the Conn Smythe? He's... Was that Drunk Landy? Have
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: you guys ever heard of the Conn Smythe? You were
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: being Drunk Landy. That's a good Drunk Landy. I like that.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: Can I ask you guys a question?
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: The point is, he's just now entering the prime of
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: his career. This guy's got more Norrises down the pike.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: I agree. If he stays healthy... He's 27.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: He's going to go down as one of the greatest
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: defensemen of all time, or maybe right next to Bobby Orr,
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: which is unfathomable to a normal human being, but that's
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: really where we are.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: I don't dispute that one bit, and you'll never get
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: me to say anything bad about Kael McCarr.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: The guy's an altar boy who plays with a vengeance
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: on the ice. He's great. He's a killer, yeah.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: I'm going to ask one simple question, all right? How
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: do you think this makes Nathan McKinnon feel? Who's making 12.6.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: Like he's going to get paid when his deal is up. But,
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: you know, Nate has always been the kind of guy.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Nate signed through 2031. That was my next point. When
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: his deal is up, it'll be 2031, and he will
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: be in his 30s.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: That's correct.
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: So, I think, yeah, he's still got plenty of. I
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: bring it up because, you know, it's all when your
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: deal comes up.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: It's all relative.
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: There's no way. that one player on this team, the
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: two best players on this team, one is worth 20
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and a half and one's worth 12 and a half.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: That's just... I agree. That's just not.
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: I agree with what you're saying here, Vic, but Nate's
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: not the kind of guy that's going to freak out
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: about this kind of thing. And keep this in mind.
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: Coming off of his rookie deal, he hadn't yet exploded
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: in the league. This is 2017.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: He hadn't yet... You're talking about Nate now.
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he hadn't yet become that guy, okay? Overall, number one,
• 19:16
  Speaker 3: flashes of brilliance, but he hadn't been that guy. And again,
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: I asked him years ago, and it was late October,
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: about October of 2017, what happened? He goes, I just
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: got it. He goes, I just, it just, all of
• 19:30
  Speaker 3: a sudden.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: I got it.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: And he's never, and from that point on, dude, he
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: has poured it on the rest of the league like
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: a mother. That being said, Vic, when they signed him,
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they gave him six per, which at that time, I
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: know it sounds like a little tiny bit of money,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: even though it's big for us, But that was an
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: overpay for that contract for Nathan McKinnon with what he
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: was producing. But Joe Sackick was like, you know what?
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: I think you're going to be frigging awesome, and I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: going to watch you be awesome. You're going to get it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: Boom.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Then when the next deal comes, he doubles it to
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: 12 over 12. So, I mean, then he gets paid
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: the amount he should. It's all relative, Brett, on the
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: timing of these contracts.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: See, but Here's the thing with the Cale contract, and
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: it's going to sound silly on the surface, but I
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: want you to hear me out. There is an aspect
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: to that contract that eventually will be friendlier to the team. Yes.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: And here's what it is. There's, in three years, going
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: to be multiple people making over what Cale is making
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: because that's just caps going to go up, more money
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: to spend, guys are going to get paid. If Cale
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: wanted to get every single cent possible on his NHL career,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: he would not have signed for eight years. He would
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: have signed for four. Correct. And then he would have
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: signed for four at 24, 20.4 per year or whatever.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: And then renegotiated at 31, knowing he has still years
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: of hockey left.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Or at the age of 31, if that, let's say
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: he did that, he could be a UFA and, and
• 21:07
  Speaker 3: Wherever he wanted, you know what I mean? Although the
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: abs would give him the bread too, but I'm just
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: saying that, yeah, he could have done any of that stuff.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: But look, you get over $ 160 million over eight years.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: It's not like you're taking any discounts on anything. The
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: point of this is, and I think this is what's
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: really important now, what this has done is put, I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: feel like, a timestamp on if you want this version
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: of the abs to win a Stanley cup. Hi, it's
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: this year. Do it. Cause you got maybe this year
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: and next year. Cause after this year, what Lekanen's up
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Wedgwood's up. There's a couple of different guys, not big
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: time hitters or anything like that. Lekanen is a big
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: time hitter. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not saying like,
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: not your nature's McKinnon McCarr types. Not to mention your
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: coach is on the last year of a contract. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: there's been no update on that one either.
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: I also look at this in a different way. It's
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: a privilege when you have the highest paid player in
• 22:12
  Speaker 4: your sport on your team. That means you have the
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: best player in your sport on your team. More often
• 22:17
  Speaker 4: than not, you have the best player. And you have
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: the funds and the ownership that's.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Willing to pay him what he's worth. That's a privilege.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: How many teams have that kind of guy or guys?
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: How many?
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: The Avs essentially have two.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: How many teams are unwilling to pay that freight?
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: How many teams have that guy but don't have the
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: other guys to make it worthwhile?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: What do you mean unwilling to pay the freight? I
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: don't think anybody's letting Hall of Famers go by nickel
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and diamond. Really? The LA Angels did. I thought we
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: were talking about hockey here.
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about sports in general. Some people don't want
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: to pay the going rate for the best player. Well,
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: NFL is a little bit different because there's no cap
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: on how much a team pays.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And NFL quarterbacks, even if you're not the best in
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: the league or considered the best, if.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: It's your turn, you're getting paid.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, Brock Purdy got, I think for what, 20 seconds,
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: he was probably the highest paid guy.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying is it means that you got talent, man.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: You got talent.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: And not many teams have this kind of talent. Texture
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: says wrong. Brett, this year's team is not a cup contender.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That's why this contract sucks. It resets the window. I
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: don't know if you guys were watching the season last year.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: The Avs were the best team in hockey until a
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: bad week occurred. You know what? It's not worth arguing
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: with people like that. I also think a big reason
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: why the Avs maybe didn't have a great series against
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Vegas was because Cale was hurt.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: I'm not arguing with cynics today who all of a sudden,
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: because you lose in the Western Conference Finals the way
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: they did, and they lost horribly, that all of a
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: sudden think it's over because of that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with you today. I don't.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: I don't want to deal with you because you're lost.
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: You're letting the emotion of that series impact what you
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: think today. The team is still very much in cup contention. Now,
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: you may not feel that way. You may not want
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: to take it out that far, but they're very much
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: a cup contender.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: And if you don't think so, I don't know what
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: to do with you.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Dr.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Lombardi.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Yes. Do people give me brain damage? Do I allow
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: them to give me brain damage?
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: How does that work?
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: Well, you just have to build a force field around you.
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Because texts like that, if I do read them, Brett,
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: and you read it out loud, if I allow myself
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: to read them, it will give me brain damage. Brett,
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: I don't do the betting thing. What are the odds
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: to win the West or to win.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: The whole schlabang? Hold, please.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: By the way, Jaden Schwartz is scheduled to be in
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: your top nine, not your top six right now.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: But to have a guy like that who can be.
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: An elevator guy who scored 26 goals two years ago
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and had dealt with injury last year, I think a
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: guy like that's valuable to have.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: Hold, please. We're currently holding. What are you tallying there?
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: He wants me to look up the odds to win
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the Stanley Cup. I don't care.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I don't care. I just know this team to come contender.
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: Of course it is. I don't need odds. Of course
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: it is. The Avs are second right now, plus 750
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: behind Florida. Okay. Tied with Carolina. Let's just not be stupid.
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I mean, stupidity is all of a sudden thinking that
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: the end of the world is near because you lost
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: in the Western Conference Finals and you have no more luck. Again,
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: it was an awful way to go down. Nobody will
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: dispute that. It was awful.
• 25:41
  Speaker 4: Because you thought that was the team and that was
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: the year. It doesn't mean all of a sudden that
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: this year it's over because it went through.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that. It does not mean that. Well,
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: there's a lot of stuff regarding the abs and the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Nuggets because there's something else with the Nuggets that we'll
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: get to a little bit later in the show. Michael
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Porter Jr. God bless his podcast. He had Peyton Watson on.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: And there's one texture saying that we were covering for
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the nuggets medical staff or something. And I don't know
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: how long you've listened to the show, but whenever the
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: subject of Peyton Watson playing or not in the playoffs
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: has come up, I've said the same thing over and
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: over again, which is this. I don't think he played
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs because Peyton Watson was hurt. I don't
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: know how much more clear I can make it. I
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: don't think there was some conspiracy that rich Paul was like, uh,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: even though you're a hundred percent healthy, let's just keep
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: you out just in case. I think he was hurt.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: And that's why he didn't play. Um, Now, we'll get
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: to that audio in a little bit, but in the
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: case of the Avs, here's the thing, man. They have
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: every single chance and ability to make a Stanley Cup
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: run and win the damn thing this year. They have
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: the talent. They have everything else. You know who I
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: wouldn't say that for? I don't think the Nuggets are
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: like that. I don't think the Nuggets are in that
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: category right now.
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: They've taken a step down from last year in terms
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: of how you feel they will finish.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Yes. The Avs, I have not changed on them.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: Me neither.
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: I think the exact same way that I felt last
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: year about their roster makeup, who's on it, their talent,
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: I think they have every possibility to end the year
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: hoisting the cup.
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: Can I just get it to you real quick?
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Top line.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: McKinnon in the middle with Lekkonen and Natchez.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: You like that? Pretty good. You don't need to sell
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: us on this. You don't need.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: I don't want to listen to cynics who are still
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: butthurt over the way it went down in the Western Finals.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to do this.
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: Did anybody hear me rant about.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: Carter Hart last week? Did you hear what I said, Brett? Yeah,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: I think I pretty much lost my brain.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: What did I say? That he played as well as
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: he possibly could, and then he didn't play well after
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the Astros.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: And will he do it again ever?
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: Probably not.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: No, no.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, he will never have a week and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: a half like that ever again. Ever. I just, for.
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I will say, this contract does confuse what you can
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: do years down the line. Like, for the next few years.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: What does this likely mean, this contract? It likely means, Moj,
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: that Lekken is probably not coming back after this year. Like,
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that's the stuff that this will do, but not right now.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Doesn't affect anything right now. And that's why I think
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: that it's even more important. It puts more of sort
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: of this time stamp of, go out and win the
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: damn thing this year. Like, this is as good of
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a roster you're going to have. It's much in the
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: same way that we go back to when the Avs
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: won the Cup or when the Nuggets won the championship.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: You did that, and in doing that, you knew that
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: guys weren't going to be back the following year.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: I have a plea, because, I mean, I'm looking at
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the Twitch feed right now, and Guru, who always comes in,
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: and ever the cynic when it comes to the way
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: the Avs are put together, I have a challenge for you, Guru,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: and everybody else who thinks they didn't do enough.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Why invest in the team then? Why watch? I challenge you,
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: week one, game one, don't watch. Don't pay attention.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Why would you invest in something that you are clearly
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: believing that is not enough?
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Why would you?
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, you're an authority on this, right? You don't
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: think they're good enough, right? You think they lack in
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: certain areas, right? So why invest in it?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: What's the point? You can be critical of how you
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: think the team's doing.
• 29:26
  Speaker 4: But you don't believe that this team has enough. So
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: if you don't believe it has enough for whatever reason,
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: there's no reason to have an investment in believing it's
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: a championship team.
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: Can I take over real quick, Vic? You know who
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: thinks they have enough? Nathan McKinnon. And Cale McCarr. Gabe Landeskog.
• 29:48
  Speaker 3: Devon Taves.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: They know the kind of team they have.
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: It's incredibly disappointing, especially the way it went down. Okay?
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Four games.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: That's... Ridiculous.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: There were a confluence of circumstances that conspired, but they
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: did get swept by the Vegas Golden Knights. Also, it's
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: really friggin' hard. It's really friggin' hard to stay healthy.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: Joe Sackick will never get out there and explain what
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: was going down.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: But I know what was going down. I know these guys,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: you know, I saw it.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: 29 teams failed.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Only one team did not.
• 30:28
  Speaker 5: 31.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 31 teams failed. Only one team did that. Hey,
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: this is my league, not your league. Quit screwing around.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: We'll be up there in those numbers pretty soon.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: But it's really hard to win, and any time you
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: lose like that, it's incredibly disappointing.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: Yes. To me, it's two things. I know that they
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: were dealing with stuff, but so is every other team.
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I don't like to go to that well just because
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: there's not a hockey team that exists in the postseason
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: that isn't dealing with injuries. And they also didn't play
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: some very good hockey at times. That's the other thing.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: The reason why all of this feels weird is because
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: of the way it happened. It was literally the most
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: shocking sports thing I think I've watched in my life.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: What's that? Four-game score by Vegas. The amount of confidence
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: that I had that the Avs were the best team
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: in the league and they played like it the entire year.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Hold on a second. To lose the way that they
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: lost was maybe the most shocking thing I've seen.
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'll make an argument with you here. That was
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: not nearly as shocking as the way the Nuggets lost. No, no,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: I disagree with you wholeheartedly.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Oh, no, it wasn't. Yes, it was. Oh, no, it wasn't. Yes,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: To get swept after that team was the best team
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: in hockey and basically swept their way to that point
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. Both teams. This ain't even close. We
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: can argue this all day. Both teams had championship aspirations.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: Yes or no? Yes. Both teams had. One team lost
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: in the first round to a team that got hurt.
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: The other team made it all the way to the
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Western Finals and ravaged their way through the first two rounds.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: One team went home after six games. Yeah, but Vic.
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: We all saw the holes that was within the Nuggets roster.
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: There wasn't a hole with the Avs. There was not
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: a single indicator, not a single one, that would have
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: led you to the conclusion the Avs might get swept.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: So when the playoffs started in the NBA, you thought
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: the Nuggets were going to lose in that first round?
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Weren't we all kind of like, I don't know what
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: the Nuggets are going to do? I knew the injury.
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: 100% it was like that.
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: We were trying to avoid teams in the first round.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: With the Avs, I didn't care. I was like, bring
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: on the best team in the world. Who cares? Nelly,
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: do we still have like a backhaul archive? Do we
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: still have that? We keep stuff. Yeah, we got a
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: fossil record. What's going on?
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Someday I'm just going to sift through it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to April 13th or something,
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to. Listen to what we said on
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: those days, and I'm going to be along with Brett going, man,
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: I didn't feel super great. I thought they could beat me. No,
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I thought they would beat Minnesota. I did think they
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: would do that. I was not sure of it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: I wasn't either.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: And with the Aaron Gordon factor and the Peyton Watson factor,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, damn it.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: Do you know what I was sure of? I was
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: sure the Avs were not getting swept. I was so
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: sure of that. But in terms of success, they got
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: to the Western Finals. One team didn't even get out
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: of the first round. Well, yeah. Yes. What do you mean?
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: One team succeeded a lot more than the other.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I guess in my heart of hearts, Vic,
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: I thought the Avs had a better shot at winning
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: their side of things than the.
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: Nuggets did theirs. The Nuggets were on pace to be
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: like a sixth seed. Yeah, I think. And then they
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: won 12 games in a row at the end of
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: the year. It didn't blow my mind that they lost
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: in the first round.
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Especially after game two. I think hindsight's getting the better
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: part of you guys.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: You know what?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Get the better part of this. I swear, I'm the
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: only one on this show that remembers things. I'll give
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: you the better part of this right now. I'm the
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: only one on this show that remembers things. I don't
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: want to talk to you, Mosier. You show up to
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: play golf on Friday at your boss's club, and you're
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: wearing no shoes. Again. Oh, man, you did it again. Again.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: That's disgusting. That's gross. Hey, man, there was a five-some
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: in front of us. Yeah, that's fine.
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: If you have a five-some, then I can wear flips.
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: I mean, who does that at their boss's place? By
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: the way, a disgusting human. I got some new flips.
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: You want to see them? No, I don't want to
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: see them. So a lot more to get to here,
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: especially news around the NFL yesterday.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Next.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: So the most predictable thing in the world happened over
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: the weekend. If you were following like literally the minimum
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: amount of football that you could follow, you'd know this
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: was coming. Did you know that when camp ends most, wait,
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: did you say the most predictable thing? Yes.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: You mean USC having the home opener with half the
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: stadium empty?
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: I swear to God, Vic, I watched. But it was hot.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Hang on a second. I watched them do their little
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: walk out of the tunnel, like arm and arm thing, right?
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley leading the way. But it's hot. Vic, I
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: thought that was a video from the COVID year. I'm
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: not even kidding. Brett, it's hot. But it's hot. I
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: didn't watch that live. I was like, what's happening here? Brett,
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: it's hot in Los Angeles. It's hot. We'll get to
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: college football in a second. Here's the most predictable thing
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: I hope we do because Olmo's off to a bit
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: of a rough start.
• 35:05
  Speaker 2: Brady and his bets was 2-0, baby. 2-0, baby. I
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: remember I said, oh, I think Belichick's going to cover
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: the spread. Why? Because I don't know. Belichick's good at coaching.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Ready?
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Okay. We go to Ireland to pick some ball. Here
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: is the most predictable thing that could happen. When the
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: final preseason game ends, that means that camp is ending.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: And that means no more preseason games, which means it's
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: time for the season to start. Which means Aaron Donald
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: was ready for football again. That's what it was. Aaron
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: Donald was just like, I'm not doing your little camp games, okay?
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: I've been out of football for three years. I'll come
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: back when the games start. Call me when the games start.
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: For $ 20 million. Well, here's the thing. Can I ask
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: this question? Hey, he ain't doing it for free. Well,
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: of course. For $ 20 million. Hey, man, Aaron Donald's coming back.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: What a classy move. For $ 20 million. Well, I didn't
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: think it was classy. It was just like, he's not
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: doing your camp games. Yeah, I get it. But we're
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: painting this as if a great player returns to help
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: bolster a team to the Super Bowl. It's courageous. Yeah,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: $ 20 million. What does bolster mean? Am I allowed to
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: say this when I can also tell you Aaron Donald is,
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: in my life, the most dominant defensive player I've ever seen.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: He is by far the best defensive player I've seen
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: in my lifetime on that side of the football.
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen anything like it except in Domicon Sioux
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: at Nebraska.
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: College Sioux was crazy.
• 36:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when he was killing the interiors of offensive lines
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: and he just dominated.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: That's what Aaron Donald did. I understand. Can I also
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: ask this so much? Is it fair for me to
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: be like, how good is he going to be? He
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: hasn't played in three years. And I understand he's a
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: freak and all this different stuff, and there's plenty of
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: reason to be excited about it. But I think you're
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: allowed to question somebody three years out of the game,
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: how effective is he going to be?
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: I wonder, I mean, are you worried about his 40 speed,
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: his bench ability, his ability to plow through centers again?
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: It's just, do you have the same quickness? Do you
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: have the same power? The same punch that you had before?
• 37:13
  Speaker 3: Father time waits for nobody, but this guy is a freak.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: So I guess I would err on the side of
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: he's probably going to be at least 90% of what
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: he was, which is better than the rest of the
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: league anyway.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: He's 35, though. It's not like he's 31. Agreed. If
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: I'm placing a bet down, like, is he going to
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: be good? I'm like, yes, he's going to be very good.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: And then are they going to use him and Myles
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Garrett at the same time?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Will they sub? What do you mean? What do you mean?
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: He's in different positions. I know, but they're not... He's interior,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Myles Garrett's exterior.
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: I guess what I'm saying is that you have... When
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: one guy gets a blow, do you... They play different positions, Moshe.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: They're both not going to play every snap the entire season.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: They're not doing a Max Crosby. Just say, Moshe, this
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: is where you say, sorry, I was wrong.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: They don't play the same position, but they also don't
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: play every damn snap.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, every team has rotation on their D-line. I
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: don't know what you're getting at. Here's what I'm getting at.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: You are going to play them at the same time,
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: but they won't play every snap the entire season at
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: the same time.
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: They'll probably do it like Zach Allen and Nick Benito do.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: You know what?
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: The Rams are thinking about giving him a ramp up
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: to the season and sitting him for the.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: First like four games. There's thoughts about that, which would
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: be good from a Broncos perspective. Yeah, please sit him.
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: I guess I'm getting at this. Yeah, you tell Aaron
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: Donald that he's not going to play for four weeks.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: See what he does with that. There's no way. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: know they are our coworkers.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: I know that. At the same time, have you looked
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: at their roster just up and down on both sides
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: of the ball? I'm not really sure how they've been
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: able to do this because that is, on paper, that
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: is the best team in the NFL right now.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: There's no question. That is the.
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Best team in the National Football League as we speak.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Wait, the team that has the Defensive Player of the Year,
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: a Hall of Famer now coming back to their roster,
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: and the MVP at quarterback, and one of the best
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: wide receivers in the league, and probably the best one-two
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: punch at wide receiver, or at least the top three
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: one-two punch. Bonte Adams and Puka Nakua. And they just
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: traded for Trent McDuffie in the offseason. That team is
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, that team is pretty good. I'd say
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: it's a pretty good team.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, pretty good.
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: On the 27th of September at Mile High, the Broncos
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: will beat that.
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: Ass.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: What? Okay.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: It's just funny to hear you say it like that.
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to call it right now. Broncos win that game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Okay. Okay.
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: Did you know that the Broncos' longest losing streak against
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: any team in the NFL.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Is the Rams? You're kidding.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: The last time they, I mean, when I say longest
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: losing streak, the last time they beat the Rams, you.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: Got to go way, way back.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: How way back?
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: Way back.
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but define way back. Well, homeboy's looking it up
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: right now. I don't have the exact number.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Way back. Homeboy. It was September 8th. 2002. Yeah. That's
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: pretty far back. Here's the recent matchup. Hold on then.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Way back, I was thinking like 1989. Hang on, do
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: you guys remember the last time they played the Rams? No. Oh, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: was it Christmas?
• 40:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a Christmas game.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Christmas day when they lost 51-14. Exactly, yeah. Okay, Vic.
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: That's not what he wanted to cook. I'll be Charlie Tuna.
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: I'll jump on your hook here.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I'm telling you, if.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Both teams go into that week with the same rosters
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: they start the season with. This is, again, barring unforeseen injury.
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: The Broncos are going to be a home.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Dog to the Rams.
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: You realize that.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: For what?
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Just saying.
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: Hey, can I mention one thing? It doesn't make me happy.
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: It doesn't make me thrilled.
• 41:04
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, dude, with Aaron Donald coming back, that
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: is just unbelievable.
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: If you listen to Brady and his bets, first of all, congratulations.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: Second of all. Make some money. Well, I just thought
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the game would go under because every Dublin game goes
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: under because... Yeah, the brick coin. More like dork coin.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Because Ireland, it rains every year that there's a game there.
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: And Belichick is a really good defensive-minded coach. And that's
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: what you saw. Like, it was initially out of the gates.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: It was like 10-10 midway through the first quarter and
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: then no points the rest of the way out. I
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: think that Belichick might get something cooking there. I really do.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: You mean like really good or just... Yeah, well, look,
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: think about it this way. If you have a coach
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: of the ilk of Bill Belichick in a conference that
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: doesn't have that many great teams, it shouldn't be that
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: hard to find him near the top of that list.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: And they're spending money. Yes. Carolina spends money.
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: And so.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Well, with the amount of attention and the amount of
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: hype and the amount of everything that went on in
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: these parts... How can Colorado not be a factor in
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the top five in the Big 12?
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: Because Dion is not Bill Belichick. I understand that. I'm
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: just saying, you're right.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: You're right, he's not. But is he doing, how much
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: really hands-on coaching is he doing anyway?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Belichick? No. Prime. Belichick's calling the damn. Isn't that kind
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: of the point? Belichick's calling all.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: The damn plays.
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: No kidding. What happened? Watching that game. To get you
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: like this.
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Watching TCU and UNC and saying, okay, who plays for whom?
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Like, who are these guys?
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: Every college football fan out there is doing the same
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: thing this week.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: It is week one, right? See who's going to play
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Friday night at Georgia Tech. Was it Thursday night? Isn't
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: it Thursday? Yeah, Thursday. Oh, wow. I thought it was Friday. Thursday.
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: Even better. I can watch it now.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: Because I'm calling high school football on Friday. And I
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: thought there was a conflict. And I was worried about it.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: But now there's not. So I can watch it and
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: then call the game on Friday.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: Great. What were you going to say?
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: The Buffs open up this week. Uh-huh.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: And.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: By and large, most CU fans, most, not all, have
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: no idea who plays for the CU Buffaloes, outside of
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: the starting quarterback who.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Played last year.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: CSU opens up this weekend, and nobody knows who the
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: hell plays for CSU.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: And that is college football in 2026. Yeah, it's going
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: to take you about three weeks to learn a few names.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: You are literally just rooting for the emblem on the helmet. Sure.
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: Pretty much. Not pretty much. You are rooting now for
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: the logo and the school because nobody knows who plays
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: for whom. That is what college sports has become. Am
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: I accurate or not? That's fairly accurate.
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: I was watching games over the weekend. I don't know
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: these guys. By the way, everybody in the ACC that
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: played this weekend won. Virginia won. Florida State, North Carolina,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: and Stanford.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Did you see the... Yeah, Stanford.
• 43:59
  Speaker 3: You thought the USC crowd was bad? Did you see
• 44:02
  Speaker 3: the crowd at kickoff with Stanford and Hawaii?
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: Was that game in Hawaii or Stanford?
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: It was at Stanford.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: It was in Palo Alto. Oh, that noted football powerhouse, Stanford.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: It was an absolute joke. Yeah, but, Moj, Vic's right
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: about this. Stanford's one thing. For USC to look the
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: way that it did is... I criminal. It's so criminal.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: It's fair. Fair weather.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: It's so here's the deal. I, you know, I got
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: into it with somebody on about USC.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: Cause I hate USC being Notre Dame guy. Obviously I
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: hate you.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: I've always had, I've always thought they were fraudulent fan base,
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: great program, fraudulent fan base, front running front fan base.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: They've always been that way. Every sport in LA is
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: like that. Always been that way. Yeah. I mean, to
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: have an opener against anybody, but it's a power five opponent.
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: They're playing. Look at this. Look at this. Look at this. Oh,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: that looks like a spring game. It's hot in LA.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: That's a joke. That's an absolute joke. That's an embarrassment.
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to say this right now before anybody
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: else does this. I've always hated this argument where it's like.
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: Well, there's so many things to do in Los Angeles.
• 45:06
  Speaker 5: There's so many things to do everywhere. Everywhere you live,
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: there's always something you could be doing. It's how much
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: do you love your team? That's what it comes down to.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: If we were in SoCal, I would have gone to
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: this game.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: I would not. I bet you can get in for
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: 20 bucks and just enjoy college football. I wouldn't because
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: I don't care about USC. But you can't claim to be.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I'll go to a college football game where I don't
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: care about either of the teams. I like it. No,
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: I understand. But what I'm saying is this is strictly
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: about it has nothing to do with where they live. Okay? Oh,
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: there's Stanford. Oh, my God.
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: That's a high school game. That's embarrassing. Stanford, just give
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: up your football program.
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: Why did the ACC want Stanford and Cal?
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: There's no way that the attendance at a college football game.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: You know what this looks like, Nelly? There's no way.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: That's AI. This looks like when you're playing a video
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: game and your team's been terrible for three straight years
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: and the computer's like, well, if that happens and you
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: only have a few fans. This is AI. There's no
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: way that that is a shot, a snapshot of Stanford
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Stadium during a Division I home opener football game. That's
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: exactly what it is, Vic. Just tear it down. I agreed.
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: It's just horrible. That's good for another Stanford. First down.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: That's pathetic.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: 303-504-0925.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Back after this.