Latest / The Path Went Chilly / Geetha Angara Pt. One
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- 0:30Welcome back to the Pathway Chili. I'm Robin, I'm Jules, and I'm
- 0:35Ashley. Let's dive right into this week's case. February eighth, two thousand
- 0:41and five, Totowa, New Jersey, Forty three year old chemist Gita Angara
- 0:47shows up to worker shift at the Passaic Valley Water Commission treatment facility, which
- 0:51turns up missing. The following day, Gita's body is discovered inside one of
- 0:56the water tanks, and her cause of death is determined to be drowning.
- 1:00A number of bruises on Gita's neck and body suggests that she got into a
- 1:04violent struggle before she was placed in the tank, so her case is classified
- 1:10as a homicide. Police investigated a number of Guida's coworkers, but the killer
- 1:15is never identified and the motive for the crime remains unknown. After that,
- 1:22the path went chilly, So we've got a pretty harrowing case to cover today,
- 1:26the two thousand and five death of Ghita Anghara. The victim in this
- 1:30story is a chemist who emigrated to the United States from India in order to
- 1:34start a family and wound up getting a job at a water treatment plant.
- 1:38However, she inexplicably vanished during one of her shifts before her body was discovered
- 1:44inside one of the plant's water tanks. The evidence seemed to suggest that someone
- 1:49violently attacked Ghita and choked her to death before removing a panel from the floor
- 1:53and dumping her body inside the tank. Given that the plant was a secure
- 1:57facility which could not be acts by outsiders, it seemed obvious that Gita was
- 2:02killed by one of her co workers, but in spite of an extensive investigation,
- 2:07no one can figure out who is responsible or what their motive could have
- 2:09been, and believe it or not. There are also some people who believe
- 2:15that Gita's death might have actually been a tragic accident, which occurred when she
- 2:19failed to notice an open panel in the floor and wound up falling into the
- 2:22tank. Whatever the case, there's still no conclusive answers about what happened,
- 2:27So we're going to explore all the different theories on today's episode. So,
- 2:30like you guys said, there's really no other explanation. She's in this secured
- 2:36area where it has to be one of her coworkers or someone who has access
- 2:39to the plant, and so your pool is quite small, but with no
- 2:44evidence and no idea of what was going on. It's almost more maddening to
- 2:49know that we have a lineup of people that have to be the suspect,
- 2:53and yet there's really nothing to go on to say we can narrow it down
- 2:55to these three, or this is where we can go accusing one of these
- 3:00people of her homicide. It's quite tragic. It's not one of those cases
- 3:04where you say, what could have happened, We know what happened, and
- 3:07now it's who did it. Yeah, it's almost like a setup with an
- 3:10old school murder mystery, where you have a certain amount of people in a
- 3:15secure facility and you realize that only one of these people had to have committed
- 3:19the murder. But unlike a piece of fiction, they were not able to
- 3:22narrow it down just one suspect and solve the mystery. It was pretty much
- 3:25we have a whole bunch of people working here, and we know one of
- 3:28them had to have done this, but we can't figure out who did it
- 3:30or why, and that's why it's so frustrating. One case, this reminds
- 3:36me of what was the name of the woman, Robin she I think she
- 3:39worked for Southwest oh Sue Tarascalis, Sue Tarascoiz just because of the male dominated
- 3:46workplace, her being a woman up in a really high position. I know
- 3:50you will you'll later draw parallels to another case, but this one really reminded
- 3:55me of that, just because of all of the adversity that she faced it
- 4:00inner workplace. Yeah, that's definitely a good comparison, because, as we're
- 4:03going to talk about, it was rumored that there was a lot of animosity
- 4:08towards Geta for having such a high position in the plant. But unlike Sue
- 4:12Tarascoitz case, it doesn't sound like she faced any outward harassment or there are
- 4:15any solid suspects who really wanted to harmor so we still have no idea if
- 4:21that could have been the reason for her death. Our story begins in two
- 4:27thousand and five in Totawa, New Jersey, a borough in Passaic County which
- 4:31has a population of around ten thousand people and is located about twelve miles outside
- 4:36of Newark. Our central figure is forty three year old Gita Angara, who
- 4:42works at the treatment facility for the Passaic Valley Water Commission. The commission is
- 4:46responsible for providing drinking water to over eight hundred thousand residents, and their facility
- 4:53purifies an estimated eighty three million gallons of water every day. Gita originally from
- 5:00Chennai, India, and became the first woman to ever attend Loyola College when
- 5:04the school officially became co ed. She wound up earning both a bachelor's and
- 5:10a master's degree in chemistry and received a gold medal after graduating as the top
- 5:15student in her class. Gita also got married to her husband, Jaya Angara,
- 5:19and the couple would immigrate to the United States in nineteen eighty four.
- 5:25After attaining additional master's degrees and a doctorate in organic chemistry and New York University,
- 5:30Gita eventually started her job with the Passaic Valley Water Commission. By this
- 5:35point, she has been employed at the water treatment plant for over twelve years
- 5:40and lives with her family about forty five minutes away in Holmdel Township. Gita
- 5:45and Jaya now have two daughters, nineteen year old Pavitra and nine year old
- 5:49Priya, along with a thirteen year old son named Vivic. In two thousand
- 5:55and four, Gita would earn her plant operator's license and was promoted to the
- 6:00position of senior chemists, which meant she would be responsible for the calibration of
- 6:03one hundred and thirty five devices of the plant, including water clarity sensors.
- 6:10At this point, the facility is currently in the midst of a seventy million
- 6:14dollar project which will transition from the usage of chlorine treatments to purify the water
- 6:18to an ozone disinfection system instead. One of Gida's responsibilities is to oversee the
- 6:24new ozone generators and ensure that the plant's water quality remains within the standards of
- 6:30the Environmental Protection Agency. On the morning of February the eighth, Guida arrived
- 6:35at the water treatment facility to beginner shift, which ran from eight am until
- 6:40four pm. Shortly before ten am, Guida was chatting with some of her
- 6:44coworkers in the break room when the technicians from her lab walked in and informed
- 6:47her that the plant's filters and clarity sensors needed to be calibrated. Shortly thereafter,
- 6:54Geita returned to the lab, and sometime between ten fifteen and ten thirty
- 6:58she left the area. Will carry a clipboard, a beaker, and a
- 7:00two way radio. The instruments which needed to be calibrated were located in the
- 7:04plant's basement, which was a series of eight foot wide tunnels lined with large
- 7:10pipes. When Geeda did not return, the lab technician, who asked her
- 7:14to go down there, went into the basement to search for He noticed some
- 7:16broken glass on the floor, but could not find Gida, and when he
- 7:19returned upstairs to ask if anyone had seen her anywhere, they said they didn't
- 7:24know where she was. Well, in spite of this, several more hours
- 7:28would pass before anyone at the plant made a big deal about Geda's absence.
- 7:32That right there speaks volumes of what the culture and climate would be because this
- 7:35is a supervisor. This is someone a with her license to help run this
- 7:41whole facility. She's a mom and a wife. She's a hard worker,
- 7:46she's an immigrant who has quite a success story. And yet when you see
- 7:50signs that there's been a struggle, something dangerous has happened, you don't seem
- 7:56to raise any concern for her. To me, that shows a culture climate
- 8:00that's not healthy from the start. Well, to make another parallel to the
- 8:05Sue Tarascuoitz case which we talked about, that was one where the victim went
- 8:09missing when she went on a lunch run to get sandwiches for entire crew,
- 8:13and she never returned for the rest of her shift, and no one sounded
- 8:16the alarm. She was never even reported missing for another thirty six hours,
- 8:20and that showed a major cultural problem going on in here. And it's pretty
- 8:24much the same thing with Geta, where she can disappear or she can leave
- 8:28some broken fragments from a lab beaker behind, yet nobody really does anything.
- 8:31For several hours that evening, Guita was supposed to give one of her daughters
- 8:37a ride to a basketball game, but never showed up. She also failed
- 8:41to return home, and all calls to her cell phone went unanswered. At
- 8:46around nine pm, the plant was ready to close for the day, but
- 8:48one of the guards noticed that Gita's car was still in the parking lot.
- 8:54It turned out that Guitah's coat, purse, and cell phone were still inside
- 8:56the lab and the soundwhich she'd been planning to eat for lunch, was on
- 9:01her desk. A search was performed to the plant and an interesting discovery was
- 9:05made in the basement corridor next to the spot where the lap technician had discovered
- 9:09broken glass earlier. That day. There was a series of water tanks located
- 9:15underneath the floor, which could be accessed by opening up some four foot fifty
- 9:18pounds aluminum diamond plated panels. They were ordinarily held in place by a dozen
- 9:24screws, but it turned out that one of the panels was slightly ajar and
- 9:28many of the screws were broken or missing. When a full search failed to
- 9:33turn up any trace of Guida, the manager called the police to officially report
- 9:37her missing at eleven twenty two pm. The authorities would focus their attention on
- 9:41the loose panel in the basement, as the tank beneath it was thirty five
- 9:46feet deep and one hundred feet in diameter and held a million gallons worth of
- 9:50water. At around two am on February ninth, the police ordered the plant
- 9:56to be shut down and began the process of draining the tank. Once all
- 10:00the water was drained out, Gidah's radio and clipboard were discovered inside the empty
- 10:03tank, but there was still no sign of her. A decision was made
- 10:07to start draining the plant's other water tanks in case Geta's body had managed to
- 10:13drift into one of them. Sure Enough, at around six thirty pm,
- 10:16that evening, her body was discovered inside a tank known as the clear well,
- 10:20which is the final storage space for filtered water after it has completed the
- 10:24filtration and disinfection processes. The tank would be drained and the Passaic Valley Water
- 10:31Commission issued a precautionary boil water order, a public health advisory which is sent
- 10:37out when the community's drinking waters has been contaminated, as the order recommends that
- 10:41residents boil their water in order to purify it. See, her death becomes
- 10:46a trauma for the whole community. It's do you guys remember the what was
- 10:50the hotel documentary inside the Cecil Hotel? Yeah, same kind of thing,
- 10:56right where people are showering with the brown water and being told, well,
- 11:00it's there, old pipes, it is what it is, and it wasn't.
- 11:01It was the remains of the poor girl who had fallen into the yeah,
- 11:07on the roof. And so it does. It becomes this kind of
- 11:11trauma that's widespread across the community. In more ways, it's a physical trauma
- 11:15for many people. But then you go back to the plant and you go
- 11:18back to Gita, and I'm wondering it's in the two thousands, are there
- 11:24not security cameras and things, because this had to take some time to unscrew
- 11:28all of those screws. It had to make some noise to lift those heavy
- 11:31steel panels. How did someone get away with this? Well, as we're
- 11:37going to talk about, there were a lot of security cameras on the outside
- 11:39of the plant, but security cameras inside were I don't think there were many
- 11:43at all, and there certainly weren't any in the basement. And that was
- 11:46one of the big issues here is that it was very difficult to get inside
- 11:50the plant if it was unauthorized, but you could move around pretty freely,
- 11:54So you can understand why someone could kill Gita and put her body in that
- 11:58tank and somehow be able to do it without being noticed. An autopsy would
- 12:05reveal that Gita was still alive when she first entered the water, so her
- 12:07official cause of death was drowning. However, there were also a number of
- 12:11deep bruises on Guita's neck to suggests that someone had attempted to strangle her,
- 12:16as well as additional bruises on her waist and elbow to indicate she had been
- 12:20involved in a violent struggle. It was suspected that someone had attacked and incapacitated
- 12:24Gita in the plant's basement before removing one of the access panels, dumping her
- 12:30body into the water tank, and hastily replacing the panel. There was a
- 12:33five foot gap between the water and the panel, and since the tank was
- 12:37not equipped with a ladder or any lighting, it would have been impossible for
- 12:41Geda to climb out, even if she was still conscious. As a result
- 12:45of these findings, the Passaic County Prosecutor's office announced that the case would be
- 12:50investigated as a homicide. There was no sign of sexual assault on Gita's body,
- 12:54and investigators believed that her killer did not use a weapon to attack her
- 12:58and only strangled her with their bare hands. The temperature of the water inside
- 13:03the tanks was only thirty six degrees fahrenheit, and since Ghita was believed to
- 13:07be submerged in there for around thirty two hours, the heavy chlorine levels would
- 13:11have corroded and eliminated any potential trace evidence that the perpetrator left behind, such
- 13:18as DNA and fingerprints. Another issue is that since a number of other people
- 13:22had walked through the basement tunnels in the hours following Gita's death, the potential
- 13:26crime scene was compromised. In fact, even though the shards of broken glass
- 13:31found near the panel seemed to be consistent with the beaker Geita had been carrying,
- 13:35employees had swept them up and threw them away before the police arrived.
- 13:41Even though the tank contained a censor which was designed to set off an alert
- 13:43about changes with the water displacement, it happened to be broken at this time
- 13:48and was not set off when Gheeta's body entered the water. Like I just
- 13:52said, there were also no security cameras in the basement, and it contained
- 13:56a lot of loud machinery which likely muffled any noise which may have been caused
- 14:01by an attack on Yeta. It's almost as if the force was simply needed
- 14:05to get her subdued and get her to the water taste, because I'm assuming
- 14:09once you drop somebody down into that, there's really no way to get back
- 14:15out, because there's there's no purpose for human entry into that, And so
- 14:22I'm assuming this person attacks her violently, is strangling her so that she's not
- 14:26making as much noise, she can't scream for help, those kinds of things,
- 14:31and then possibly she passes out, and when they drop her down there,
- 14:33even if there was access out, she wouldn't be able to It's interesting,
- 14:39do you think signs of sexual assault could go away with the chemicals and
- 14:43things like that, or it was thirty two hours she was submerged there,
- 14:46would they really be able to tell those kinds of details. Wasn't that just
- 14:50clear water though, Like it was the final stage, the clear well where
- 14:54water would just stand. It wasn't being treated with chemicals at that point,
- 14:58was it? It was just chlora. So they say the chlorine could eliminate
- 15:01DNA and fingerprints belong to a third party, But I don't know if that
- 15:05would have been strong enough to get rid of any sign of sexual assault.
- 15:09I mean, if there was semen inside her body, that still would have
- 15:11shown up, right, I guess yeah, yeah, And for me,
- 15:16I don't think you would have enough time to do all of this and then
- 15:18sexual abuse as well. It seems like they needed her gone. Someone who's
- 15:22resentful of her position, someone who's resentful of someone who's an immigrant working and
- 15:26being in a supervisory position, someone who doesn't like a woman being their boss.
- 15:31Somebody had a problem with her and needed her gone, so I think
- 15:33the purpose was just to eliminate her, and the bruising would be a sign
- 15:39to subdue her and get her to a point where possibly unconscious, so they
- 15:43could drop her in and there'd be no fight back. That's what I'm thinking
- 15:46as well. And it's always been debated about whether this was a planned murder
- 15:50or just a crime of passion where just someone something escalated out of control and
- 15:54they didn't plan to kill Gita, but once they realized what they'd done,
- 15:58they knew how to dispose her body. And I have a feeling that if
- 16:00sexual assault had been the motive, they probably wouldn't have been risky enough to
- 16:03do it in the plant's basement when anyone could have walked in at any time.
- 16:08In a bizarre turn of events, just over one year before Gita's death,
- 16:14the plant had been used as a filming location for an episode of the
- 16:17TV series Law and Order Special Victims Unit. The episode, titled Brotherhood,
- 16:22featured a scene in which the body of one of the characters was found floating
- 16:26inside a water tank. In spite of this, investigators do not suspect that
- 16:32the episode inspired Geita's death, and believed that the whole situation was nothing more
- 16:37than an unfortunate coincidence. Since access to the plant was restricted, it seemed
- 16:42very likely that one of Geta's coworkers may have been responsible for her death.
- 16:48There was only one driveway to access the facility, and anyone who entered had
- 16:52to check in at a manned security post, which was monitored by a camera
- 16:56and had a ten foot high gate. Number of cameras and motion detectors surrounding
- 17:02the perimeter, and the only section of the property which was not surrounded by
- 17:06a fence was the south side of the Passaic River. While it would have
- 17:10been very difficult for an outsider to enter the plant, security inside the facility
- 17:15was not that tight, as none of the areas required access with a key
- 17:18card and the employees could walk around freely anywhere. As a result, this
- 17:23would make it difficult for investigators to track the movement for each employee and determine
- 17:29which ones might have been in the basement during the time period that Guida was
- 17:33killed. So I know that they're processing large amounts of water. This is
- 17:37a very big plant. How many people would have been working there and on
- 17:41her shift? I mean, are we talking hundreds of people. We talked
- 17:45about ten people. How big is this pool of suspects? I was just
- 17:49about to talk about that they had a total of eighty five employees, and
- 17:52fifty of them happened to be working during the time period when Nigita went missing.
- 18:00So yeah, like I said, security records showed that fifty of them
- 18:03were present and working on the day Guida died. And while all of these
- 18:07employees willingly provided DNA samples to police, this did not prove very useful since
- 18:11all potential DNA evidence had been eradicated by the chlorine. When investigator started looking
- 18:17into Geda's background, she was described as a very friendly, cheerful person who
- 18:22generally had good relationships with her coworkers and management. However, there were some
- 18:26coworkers who reportedly did not like her and were resentful of her promotion to senior
- 18:32chemist. Even though Geda always downplayed her own academic achievements, there was apparently
- 18:37some jealousy about her PhD. When this case was later featured in an article
- 18:41in People magazine, an anonymous employee alleged that there was rachel prejudice towards Geta,
- 18:48stating quote, ninety eight percent of the plant is white, and not
- 18:51all of them like seeing immigrants do well end quote. I could definitely see
- 18:56racism playing a role here. When you look at this, you you could
- 19:00see resentment and jealousy, kind of insecurity with a woman who's immigrated here to
- 19:07the United States. She is a high achieving woman with a solid family,
- 19:12She's hard working, she has her PhD. That and of itself can be
- 19:17threatening to people who just simply look at someone and they say, why her
- 19:21right, why did she get this? And they almost cast this kind of
- 19:26elitism on her, even though she's not necessarily carrying herself that way. And
- 19:30so if someone said, I've been working here for years, she hasn't.
- 19:33I've you know, been in this field for this long. How come she
- 19:37got to jump ahead? I could see that. Plus someone who has a
- 19:42anger and kind of a racist attitude, of course that's going to cause a
- 19:48bigger fuel of anger. And Geita not only had her doctorate, but she
- 19:53had like three master's degrees, isn't that right, Robin, Like she got
- 19:57one at Loyola and then also her bachelor's and then when she immigrated to the
- 20:03United States, she then got I think two more master's degrees. And her
- 20:07PhD. Exactly, yeah, so, and she got a gold medal for
- 20:12being the top student in her class at Loyola. So she already achieved really
- 20:15high in India and only did better when she immigrated to the US to get
- 20:21additional accomplishments. So she probably had better education and more accomplishments than nearly anybody
- 20:26else working at that plant. And even though she was very humble about it,
- 20:30she didn't like to brag. I could still see how there might be
- 20:33some resentment from some of the more blue collar folks. Do you know what
- 20:37percentage of the employees were women? They never actually said that. I mean,
- 20:44we just gave the statistic that ninety eight percent were white, but I
- 20:47don't have any information about how many other women worked there. But to hearken
- 20:51back to the Sue Tuasco its case, like she was one of the only
- 20:53women working at the airline at the time of her death, and there was
- 20:57just so much resentment about her getting a promotion and being a supervisor to some
- 21:03of these other men. And I could see the same thing happening with Geeta,
- 21:06where not only is she a woman, but she's also an immigrant woman.
- 21:10And I think there could have been some men there who had a problem
- 21:12with that. My stepdad, for years, he just retired recently, worked
- 21:17at a water treatment facility and it was a huge water treatment facility, state
- 21:22of the art. And I can only say, I don't want to project
- 21:25this onto this case because I don't know what the what the statistics are there,
- 21:30how many women were employed. But I do know in his workplace,
- 21:33I think the total people there that might have worked were maybe around fifty And
- 21:40I also think that of that maybe there was one woman, maybe two.
- 21:45And this is like a few years back, and maybe now there's more women
- 21:48working there. But I do know it was definitely skewed way more towards men.
- 21:53So I could say that in there was some strange politics that happened at
- 21:57that place. If there was a woman who was in the highest position,
- 22:02I would have thought, based on the way my stepdad described it, that
- 22:06there would have been certain men there who would have been resentful of her position.
- 22:11There was also tension about the plant's transition from chlorine treatments to an ozone
- 22:17disinfection system, as some employees apparently did not agree with the initiative. In
- 22:22the weeks prior to her death, a pinkish substance was found in some treated
- 22:26water while Gita was outsick. Even though the issue was resolved in her absence,
- 22:32it was not done according to the plant's protocol, so Gida would be
- 22:36a signed to retrain some of her co workers. This did not go over
- 22:40well with everyone, and some employees reportedly blamed Gida and the plant's knew ozone
- 22:45cleansing process for the appearance of the pinkish substance. Her husband, Jia,
- 22:49would state, quote, my wife told me the atmosphere was very hostile at
- 22:53the time. There was friction end quote. However, investigators suspect did that
- 23:00Gita's death was not a premeditated murder and could have been the result of a
- 23:03workplace dispute which escalated out of control. I find it a little difficult to
- 23:10say you could rule out a premeditated murder because I might have that in the
- 23:14back of my head and when we get into a fuss, I go,
- 23:15now's the time to take this woman out. So I don't know that you
- 23:18can completely rule that out. But when you look at Gita, she is
- 23:22a supervisor. She's one of the top people at this plan, and so
- 23:26right here's case in point that when there's a problem she's gone, it gets
- 23:30resolved, but when she gets back, she now has to go back and
- 23:34basically get on to everyone and reteach them, retrain them. These are people
- 23:40who feel like they are competent at their job, they do the right thing.
- 23:44They don't like this new system. They've already voiced that they're frustrated with
- 23:48it. There was a problem, and now one of the women instituting the
- 23:52new system is going to sit them down and retrain them, which could feel
- 23:56very belittling to them. They could be very resentful and upset with that.
- 24:00And so I could see where those kinds of moments where she's either disciplining someone
- 24:04or having to quote retrain people who might, in their own head think I
- 24:10know all of this stuff. I don't need her especially to be retraining me.
- 24:14I could see where that would create that kind of friction that her husband
- 24:15described. Oh yeah, we're going to talk about this more in the episode.
- 24:21But they did say that some of the employees who worked at that plant
- 24:23were described as quote unquote old school, So it sounds like they liked the
- 24:29old system, they didn't like these new changes. And if you bring in
- 24:32this woman to retrain them and kind of throw everything for a loop. I
- 24:36can see how that would create potential resentment. After spending a month interviewing all
- 24:41of the plant's employees, police narrowed down the field of potential suspects to eight,
- 24:45but after a year long investigation, it was announced that the number had
- 24:49been narrowed down to three. While none of these three potential suspects were named
- 24:53publicly, it was revealed that all of them were male and had been working
- 24:57at the plant on the day was killed. It also turned out that one
- 25:02of these suspects was a supervisor and one of the others was the lab technician
- 25:07who would ask Gheeta to go down into the basement to calibrate the filters and
- 25:11clarity sensors. But it must be noted that, according to plant records,
- 25:15these instruments did need to be calibrated that day, so his story checked out.
- 25:19According to Lieutenant James Wood, the chief homicide detective for the Passaic County
- 25:25Prosecutor's Office, none of these three men had solid alibis, and he believed
- 25:29that one of them was on the verge of confessing until he decided to lawyer
- 25:33up and stop speaking. With the police. They reach asked to take light
- 25:37detector tests, and while one of them refused to do so, one of
- 25:40the men did wind up passing, and the other man's results were inconclusive.
- 25:44There was just no conclusive evidence to implicate any of the three suspects, so
- 25:48the investigation would reach a standstill until a theory started to form that Gheta's death
- 25:53may have been an accident. Hmmm, I'm wondering about the bruises on our
- 25:57body, because if you have marks of strangulation around your neck and you have
- 26:02bruises on your waist in your arms, I don't really know how you could
- 26:07say that's an accident. Maybe there's an explanation for the bruising around her neck,
- 26:11but I'll wait to hear that when we talk about the three suspects.
- 26:15I know that one man was in the right place at possibly the wrong time,
- 26:19and it checks out with these sensors. How were the other two pulled
- 26:22in? Had they had conflicts with her? What made the other two men
- 26:26a suspect? I wish I had that information, but nothing has been released
- 26:32about them publicly. I guess this could have been done so that they didn't
- 26:34want the public figuring out their identities, so potentially falsely accusing them if they
- 26:38didn't do anything. I mean, we do know that one of them,
- 26:42this lab technician, was the same man who found the broken glass near the
- 26:47spot where Gita went into the tank, but he didn't really do anything,
- 26:49and nobody noticed she was missing for the next several hours. But it could
- 26:55be, like I said, his story did check out. He did have
- 26:56a reason to send Gieda down there, so you can't just assume that this
- 27:00was some sort of elaborate setup and he lured her down there to kill her.
- 27:04But because this investigation is so secret and we have other than knowing about
- 27:08the lab technician, we have no information whatsoever about these three potential suspects and
- 27:14what kind of motive they might have had to kill Gieda. Here's a quick
- 27:18question, Robin. Okay, so we talked about this earlier, but I
- 27:22just want to confirm. Did we say that her clipboard was found in one
- 27:27of the water tanks and she was found in another. Let me just double
- 27:33check that. I think her radio or something was found in the other tank.
- 27:37Yeah. Yeah, the radio and the clipboard were found in the tank
- 27:41beneath the panel where she had gone into, but they thought that her body
- 27:45had floated to the other tank where she was eventually found. Okay, so
- 27:48they were connected. It wasn't like I don't believe this was an accident due
- 27:52to her injuries. But hypothetically, if she had fallen in the tank,
- 27:56her clipboard could have been found in one and she could have floated to the
- 28:00other. Yes, exactly. So they think that if she had fallen in
- 28:04her items could remain behind, but she could have floated to the other place
- 28:07where she was eventually found. Detectives would consult with Derek Pounder, a forensic
- 28:14pathologist from the University of Dundee in Scotland who was considered to be an expert
- 28:18in the field of drownings. Even though the bruising on Gita's neck suggested that
- 28:23she'd been strangled, Pounder had an alternate explanation for them. He claimed there
- 28:29were a few documented cases of drowning victims being found with similar bruising, which
- 28:33had been caused by extremely cold water. According to Pounder, if Gita was
- 28:38still conscious when she entered the water tank, the cold temperatures could have caused
- 28:42her to go into shock. If her head and neck were above the water
- 28:47while this was taking place. This may have led to hemorrhaging at the neckline,
- 28:51which caused her bruises to form. During an article published in The New
- 28:55York Post, an anonymous insider from the plant came up with a potential expert
- 29:00nation for how Geda could have entered the water accidentally. According to this insider,
- 29:04on the day of Gita's death, the state ordered some testing on the
- 29:07water due to the appearance of a pinkish haze. Even though water samples could
- 29:12be collected from the tanks with some newer machinery, there was apparently one water
- 29:18quality supervisor who was described as very old school and still had a tendency to
- 29:22take water from the tank manually. This would have involved removing a panel from
- 29:26the floor of one of the basement corridors, so a potential theory is that
- 29:30someone could have done this and left the scene without putting the panel back in
- 29:34place. Since the corridors were dimly lit, it's possible that Gita unknowingly walked
- 29:41over the opening in the floor and fell into the water tank, while when
- 29:45the responsible party returned to the scene and put the panel back into position,
- 29:49they may have been unaware that Gueda was inside the tank, or if they
- 29:52did know, they decided to cover their tracks in order to avoid potential liability
- 29:57issues. Well, believe eive it or not. After the lead homicide detective
- 30:02James Wood retired, he stated during an interview that he had changed his mind
- 30:07about the case and now believe the Gidah's death was an accident caused by negligence
- 30:11rather than an intentional homicide. Question that there are not deaths where there was
- 30:18bruising due to cold water, but it sounds very odd to me. It's
- 30:22frustrating when you read this because any of these options, the option of someone
- 30:27knowing she had fallen in there and covering it on purpose to avoid liability,
- 30:33and or someone putting her there, those are both tragic situations. Someone who
- 30:37came by and put the lid back on and screwed the floor back down partially,
- 30:42that would be, you know, absolutely understandable. But the other two
- 30:47explanations are both tragic. Right, someone knew and didn't help and didn't say
- 30:51anything, let her sit there for thirty two hours, or someone murdered her.
- 30:56I'm still leaning towards somebody hurt her. There was tension, there was
- 31:00frustration with her. She had confided in her husband that there was stress at
- 31:04work. And to me, the bruising around the neck is worrisome. I
- 31:07need more information of how and why that bruising occurs with cold water. And
- 31:11what could you say about the bruising around the waist If you're going to explain
- 31:15the bruising because her neck was above water and that was like a contact point
- 31:22and it caused the bruising due to the shock, how could you explain the
- 31:26bruising at the waist? And let me ask you this too. When you
- 31:29think about when you tread water, you don't sit in one location for minutes.
- 31:34I mean, when you tread water, you're using your arms. You're
- 31:37pushing your body up and down, up and down, up and down,
- 31:38so the water is constantly moving across your neck and your shoulders, and eventually
- 31:44you would get exhausted. But at that point I almost think only your head
- 31:47would like the top of your face would be out, you know what I
- 31:49mean. So around her neck, I can't imagine just treading water to my
- 31:55neck is in the same position for long enough to bruise. It just seems
- 31:59odd and by your logic, which makes total sense to me. If it
- 32:04was going to bruise, like the University of Dundee guy said, then I
- 32:07would think a Pounder that was his name, But I would think that it
- 32:10would also be all the way up the neck, right, so you'd see
- 32:14bruising through the length of a neck, because You're right, she'd be bobbing
- 32:16up and down. So if that cold water and the shot caused bruising,
- 32:21wouldn't you see that bruising like in multiple, multiple locations, multiple layers at
- 32:27least. Yeah, like multiple layering where I could hold my body here and
- 32:30then here and then here, and I got so tired I went under like
- 32:32banded bruising. And another issue I have is that even though Pounder is considered
- 32:38to be an expert in drownings, how many other drownings has he studied under
- 32:43these exact circumstances, Because I'm guaranteeing that there's probably not too many other examples
- 32:47of someone drowning after falling in a water tank and a plant, and they
- 32:52talk about the circumstances that this was completely dark and she was something like five
- 32:55feet below the opening, so it's kind of like drowning even if he has
- 33:00found other documented cases of someone drowning with bruises on their neck. I'm willing
- 33:06to bet that those other cases aren't anything like Geeta's, and so how could
- 33:09he accurately predict what kind of bruising she's gonna get on her body when she's
- 33:14in such unusual position. However, the biggest issue was that Derek Pounder's theory
- 33:19was based on nothing more than guesswork, as he apparently did not view the
- 33:22original autopsy report. He also couldnot examine Geta's body, as her family had
- 33:28elected to cremate her in accordance with Hindu funeral customs. During the initial stages
- 33:32of the investigation, Gita's body and autopsy report have been examined by no less
- 33:37than five separate pathologists from Passaic County, and they all came to the same
- 33:43conclusion that her death was a homicide. Geedah's family also did not agree with
- 33:46the accident theory, noting that she was a very conscientious person with a reputation
- 33:52for being a perfectionist, and they found it doubtful that she would have walked
- 33:54through the basement corridor without noticing an open panel on the floor beneath her.
- 34:00Her oldest daughter Pavritha, would state quote, I think he would have to
- 34:02ignore a lot of facts to believe it was an accident end quote. For
- 34:07their part, other plant employees claimed that they had never personally witnessed an incident
- 34:12where someone removed a floor panel and left it open for an extended period of
- 34:15time after leaving the scene. In two thousand and seven, the Angara family
- 34:21would file a wrongful death lawsuit against the Passaic Valley Water Commission, alleging that
- 34:25the plant had a history of safety violations which were never remedied. The suit
- 34:30was tied up in litigation for two years before a state judge ordered the parties
- 34:34to mediate for a potential settlement. But I'd been not able to find out
- 34:37how this lawsuit ultimately turned out. In twenty fifteen, a tenth anniversary article
- 34:44was published about Gitta's death, where John Ladaka, the former Passaic County Chief
- 34:49Assistant prosecutor, confirmed that the three men considered to be potential suspects during the
- 34:53early stages of the investigation, were no longer believed to be responsible. Ladaraki
- 35:00stated quote, there were a couple of people who raised their antennas, but
- 35:04when push came to shove, we looked into the additional things that became areas
- 35:07of concern in interviewing these folks, and based on that we thought that while
- 35:12there were reasons they came across as hinky, we ultimately didn't believe the actively
- 35:16killed her end quote. At the moment, the case is described as quote
- 35:22open but inactive. So there's still no answers about what caused the death of
- 35:25Guita and Gara. So I guess you could say the path went Chiley.
- 35:30I'm praying that her family was able to get some kind of financial compensation to
- 35:36help with you know, they lost their mother and their matriarch and one of
- 35:42the major breadwinners in their family, and you know, it's difficult to go
- 35:46on as a widower and to have your little ones that you're trying to raise
- 35:50on your own, and you've lost an income. So I think the financial
- 35:53compensation that they were seeking, whether it was a murder or an accident,
- 35:58means something of the lab had gone wrong, something that that plant had gone
- 36:01wrong, and so I am praying to get financial compensation. However, we
- 36:06all know that financial compensation doesn't help with the emotional loss of their mother and
- 36:10wife, and so not having the answers. We talk about this all the
- 36:14time. You could have given them fifty million dollars And I still want to
- 36:17know what happened to her, How did this happen to her? Why weren't
- 36:22things in place that would have prevented this from happening to her, or that
- 36:24would have allowed us to have some kind of justice or understanding of how she
- 36:29died. And so my heart is just so sad. She had three children
- 36:34correct, yes, yeah, three little ones that she left behind that were
- 36:38young. They needed their mom, and their mom's not going to be there
- 36:42for any of their major life events. She worked so hard, she moved
- 36:45herself here to create a better life so she could have those babies and she
- 36:51could provide a life for them. And that's what she was doing, and
- 36:53it was taken away. So, whether an accident or a murder, things
- 36:59most likely could have been done better to help either the investigators figure out who
- 37:02it was, or to keep the people, all people, not just her
- 37:07that we're working in that plant much safer, are you guys? Just as
- 37:12frustrated by the comments from John lotteraca how vague they are, where he says
- 37:15that well, we have three potential suspects, but we don't believe they're responsible
- 37:19now. But they don't provide any specific details why. They just essentially just
- 37:22say, well, they looked suspicious at first, but we ultimately don't believe
- 37:27that they killed her. But why, I mean, how do you know
- 37:30that? Yeah, tell us, why how do you know that? And
- 37:32like I said, the bruising and saying that that was all proof of an
- 37:36accident, it's just not convincing enough for me to say, oh, okay,
- 37:39that's good, thank you for updating us, and now we can all
- 37:42go to sleep and rest easy. We don't have any information to go and
- 37:45say, okay, now I'm confident that he's right. And we know that
- 37:50people are pissed off about having to be retrained about this pinkish hued water,
- 37:53and what is Geeda doing. She's going to get water as a sample to
- 37:59test and figure out why this pink isshue is there. But as a result
- 38:02of that whole situation, she has been put in a leadership role again,
- 38:07tasked with doing this thing, which obviously a lot of the employees don't like.
- 38:13They probably don't like it because she's a racial minority and the plant was
- 38:16predominantly white, and because she's a woman, so I would think that tempers
- 38:21could be potentially running hot at this exact time. So to rule out it
- 38:27being a homicide and to say that, oh, yeah, very well,
- 38:30could be an accident, I think like you said, Robin, and I
- 38:34think was a really good point that Pounder, the probability is low that he's
- 38:37ever investigated a death in water, that is, in conditions that are similar
- 38:44to this, So it can be really difficult to say that, oh,
- 38:47well, it happened in these other cases there was bruising, and we don't
- 38:51know how many cases, and what the exact temperatures were of the water,
- 38:55what was the position of the body, was the size of the person.
- 38:59Was a woman, was it a man. There's so many different variables that
- 39:02go into this, and to just kind of dismiss it and say that it
- 39:07was an accident, it just seems so preposterous. That's why I'm hoping that
- 39:10when a lot of Roco made those statements that he wasn't ruling out the suspects.
- 39:15Based on Derek Pounder's conclusions, that he now thinks it's a homicide.
- 39:17Because you remember their methods they said, well, we narrowed it down to
- 39:21eight, and then we narrowed it down to these three. And I'm like,
- 39:23well, if you don't think these three are responsible, then you should
- 39:27start over because somebody in that plant had to kill her. So I can
- 39:30understand that our family must be frustrated that there haven't been any new developments in
- 39:36the investigation for over a decade now, So you're wondering are they reinvestigating these
- 39:40people? Like what are exactly are they doing to try to figure out who
- 39:44killed Gita? So I think this would be a good time to bring an
- 39:47end to part one. But join us next week as we present part two
- 39:51of our series about the unexplained death of Geta and Ghara. Robin, do
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