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L79 Horrifying Encounter with The Rake · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Eye Jupiter Live. This
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  Speaker 1: one was with Chester Smith. I had him on an
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  Speaker 1: episode where he was attacked by a bigfoot.
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  Speaker 2: You should actually go back and check that episode out
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  Speaker 2: in episode ninety ninety one something like that. And I
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  Speaker 2: had him back on again and he wanted to tell
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  Speaker 2: me about a possible rake encounter. But to me, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of kind of sounded like, kind of sounded like mothman.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. You know, if you guys want to write,
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, so first of all, thank you guys, all
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  Speaker 1: I just said thirty seconds ago, my very best to
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  Speaker 1: bring you the best possible interviews I can and I
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  Speaker 1: love you all very much. And yeah, I enjoyed this
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  Speaker 1: episode with Chestersmith.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, I'm back.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was only what four days later? But so,
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  Speaker 1: how's it, how's it going? How's it been?
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  Speaker 3: It's been pretty good. I mean, you know, it's been
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  Speaker 3: a little chilly here, and you know, deer season is
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  Speaker 3: kicking off. Had some neighbors move in down the road
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  Speaker 3: several months ago, and they've got a nineteen year old kid. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I used to teach archery classes traditional and compound. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm handicapped. I can't do it anymore. You know, I
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  Speaker 3: can't even string my fifty pound record anymore. So what
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  Speaker 3: I'm doing is passing that step onto him and passing
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  Speaker 3: on the knowledge, teaching him how to shoot a compound
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  Speaker 3: bow and how to hunt. And eventually I'd like to
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  Speaker 3: get the compound though. I'm giving him tune back up
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  Speaker 3: to eighty pounds because I got to drop down to
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  Speaker 3: fifty because at eighty pounds, I mean my compound bow,
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  Speaker 3: you can hit an apple one hundred yards with this thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's insanely accurate. But yeah, character people, and they don't
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  Speaker 3: know anything about hunting an archery. So I'm teaching him
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  Speaker 3: and then he can pass it up to his parents.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's cool, man. There's always something you can do
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  Speaker 1: to help out in your community. It could be something
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  Speaker 1: as simple as teaching someone how to use a bow.
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  Speaker 1: How to you know how to do the you know,
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  Speaker 1: you know, clean it, check the cams, make sure nothing's
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  Speaker 1: out of whack, and you know your silencers and your
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  Speaker 1: counterbalances and your quivers and all the things.
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  Speaker 3: That go relaxing strings, making your own bow strings. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I know how to do all that. I've got all
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  Speaker 3: kinds of boat string material.
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  Speaker 1: Isn't that called a kisser button thing that you're put
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  Speaker 1: in the corner?
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  Speaker 3: Get the button up above your d loop that you
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  Speaker 3: could pull back to the corner of your mouth right,
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  Speaker 3: and you line up your sights. But I, with my
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  Speaker 3: modified release, I keep my index finger behind the trigger.
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  Speaker 3: I come back and put my thumb in the corner
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  Speaker 3: of my mouth button and that lines me up perfect.
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  Speaker 3: And OK. Yeah, I showed bows left.
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  Speaker 1: Handed, even though you're right handed.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, even though I'm right handed, I'm left eye dominant
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  Speaker 3: and I can't see that good distance with this eye,
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  Speaker 3: so I use a single pin apex site. There's several
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars and it's got a two x magnifying glass
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  Speaker 3: in it. I mean it it is out there.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, last time I shot was back in the nineties,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm sure a lot of things are different when
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  Speaker 1: it used to be.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the shooting bows was in Actually in the eighties,
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  Speaker 3: I was shooting bows. But it was like bows that
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  Speaker 3: we made and arrows that we made, and we take
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  Speaker 3: like the pop top soda tops and pull them over
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  Speaker 3: on the end of the arrow shaft, and that was
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  Speaker 3: our broadheads. We'd sharpen it on a rock and shoot them.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So here's your channel. Is this correct that
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  Speaker 1: Hillbilly Holler found Hillbilly Holler? Is that your channel?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I did. It was about you know, home
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  Speaker 3: repairis pixes, working on small engines, you know, troubleshooting engines.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm just not capable of doing that anymore. So
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  Speaker 3: I just let the channel go. But I'll leave it
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  Speaker 3: up and then when somebody asks a question, I'll answer.
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  Speaker 1: Them, well, there's all the ways we can skin that cat. Man.
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  Speaker 1: If you need help, you talk to me about it.
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  Speaker 1: You have that, you have the ability to talk to people,
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  Speaker 1: So maybe there's something else that you can consider doing.
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  Speaker 1: Doing what I do, you know, we'll get.
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  Speaker 3: Your you might be interested in. On my channel, I
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  Speaker 3: took some angle iron and some weights and my wilder
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  Speaker 3: and I made a homemade driveway greater that you put
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  Speaker 3: your driveway. It grades it and smooths it without any
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  Speaker 1: Oh you mean like pea gravel or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: like pea gravel or our six or gravel whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, my mind, driveway you used to be. You gravel
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  Speaker 3: it and then after you run over it for like
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  Speaker 3: six months, all the gravels mashed down, and then you
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  Speaker 3: got ruts. And I would go back over it, pull
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  Speaker 3: that gravel back up and relevel it, fill in the
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  Speaker 3: rets with it in like thirty forty five minutes.
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  Speaker 1: Well yeah, because after a while, would you get those
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  Speaker 1: dips going? Didn't get worse and worse and worse. And
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  Speaker 1: I know all about that here about it? Oh trust me?
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's it's mud city here. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you uh, you came on last week, uh this week,
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  Speaker 1: actually your episode dropped on Tuesday. Got and check that out, guys,
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  Speaker 1: after this and Uh, you were you You said that
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  Speaker 1: you wanted to go chronologically. After that, we talked in
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  Speaker 1: the green room for a moment. I want to go
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  Speaker 1: on chronological and I kind of wanted to go into it.
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  Speaker 1: So go ahead and like what happened short I've had
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  Speaker 1: but then begin, my friend, let's go ahead and get
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  Speaker 1: into it so people can see.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, had a different experiences over my lifetime,
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  Speaker 3: and now I'm basically just a bigfoot researcher. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I go out in the field as much as I
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  Speaker 3: can with my wheelchair. But I've had strange things happen
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  Speaker 3: my whole life, but not like all together. And I
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  Speaker 3: think what it is is after you have your first encounter,
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  Speaker 3: you become hyper aware and you tend to notice a
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  Speaker 3: lot more things that people will overlook, Like nine to eleven.
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  Speaker 3: When nine to eleven happened, it was like it's that
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  Speaker 3: Halloween night. After nine to eleven. I had taken a
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  Speaker 3: bunch of kids trigger treating and we were on our
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  Speaker 3: way home. It was like midnight, one o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody was kind of dozing off, and we're going down
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  Speaker 3: this little two lane road. It was Highway five and
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  Speaker 3: Hartville Missouri and we were just coming down the hill
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  Speaker 3: coming into town and all of a sudden, I'm not joking.
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  Speaker 3: This was a missile or a rocket, and it was
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  Speaker 3: both flying. It had a blue flame. I had my
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  Speaker 3: window down.
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  Speaker 1: It was like.
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  Speaker 3: Going from like Fort Wood towards Springfield, Missouri that direction,
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  Speaker 3: so it was going from east to west. And of
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  Speaker 3: course there was no reports on the news about that
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  Speaker 3: at all. I mean nothing on the news, and they
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  Speaker 3: weren't even talking about like bombings or anything. But I
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  Speaker 3: know what I saw, and I mean I wasn't half
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  Speaker 3: asleep or anything, but it was so loud that the
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  Speaker 3: people were dozing off in the car. I mean they
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  Speaker 3: jumped up. They were like what was that? And I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: you saw a rocket? And I mean this thing was
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  Speaker 3: pretty big. It was nuts. But you know, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: there there was a whole lot of cover up over
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  Speaker 3: the nine to eleven thing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they don't even get me started. Bro I
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  Speaker 1: was in the military during that time and we were
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  Speaker 1: out in Fort Irwin, California, and they told us they
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  Speaker 1: woke us up because we were on the west coast there,
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  Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, if you have anybody back east,
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  Speaker 1: good to call. Of course, I'm from Baltimore, so you know.
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  Speaker 1: Then then Pentagon happened also, and I was like, you guys, okay,
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  Speaker 1: but that was a weird time, and that was like,
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  Speaker 1: that was like my beginning of what the hell is
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  Speaker 1: going on? Because there's so much more that we don't
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  Speaker 1: know about. I mean that we can do, probably you
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  Speaker 1: and I a whole podcast just about those kind of things.
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  Speaker 1: And then the Vegas situation, and then you know, mister
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  Speaker 1: Covid movid, that whole bullshit. Oh yeah, what's going on
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  Speaker 1: now is another version of it. Let me get this straight.
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  Speaker 1: You in California, you said you have to wear a mask,
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  Speaker 1: and now you say take them off? Which one is it? Fellas?
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  Speaker 1: It's insane, man, The world is crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is crazy. There's a lot of things going on,
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  Speaker 3: and the more you look into it, the more you
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  Speaker 3: realize how much everything is like trying to put the
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  Speaker 3: blinders on you. For example, I mean I've said this
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  Speaker 3: many times. There are tens and tens and tens of
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  Speaker 3: thousands of bigfoot reports, right and say one percent is true,
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  Speaker 3: we still have that one percent that actually happened. You
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  Speaker 3: can't say that, can't. I mean one hundred thousand people
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  Speaker 3: are all lying. That is just ridiculous, you know, to
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  Speaker 3: say everybody had an encounter or talks about it, they're lying. No,
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  Speaker 3: that that is just absolutely impossible. And when people come
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  Speaker 3: out and do interviews like I am, the only thing
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  Speaker 3: I have to gain from doing this. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not going to get rich. I'm not going to make
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  Speaker 3: a penny off of this. The only thing I can't
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  Speaker 3: stand to gain is ridicule. So why would I want
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  Speaker 3: to talk about something that people are gonna laugh at
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  Speaker 3: me about? It makes no sense whatsoever. Well, it's more
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  Speaker 3: credibility to the people that do do interviews, like Daryl Denton,
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  Speaker 3: my buddy Billy Howell. Billy Howell, Yeah, he's my best friend.
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to get Billy hollow in years ago. He's like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: sure we'll do that. It just never happened. I would
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  Speaker 1: love to talk to Billy. Maybe you can put a
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  Speaker 1: word in for me.
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  Speaker 3: I'll link you up, no problem.
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  Speaker 1: I would love to have Billy Hollows. He's also that's
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  Speaker 1: when they went to that dog Man. Remember that was
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  Speaker 1: with Billy Howell. No, No, the the orb that came
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  Speaker 1: across the ground to turn into a possible when Billy
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  Speaker 1: shined a light on it and it hits that Darryl
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  Speaker 1: and they both got sick.
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  Speaker 3: That was him, right, that that's the same Billy Howell. Okay,
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  Speaker 3: last time, uh, if we had Martin Andley, Darryl Danton,
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  Speaker 3: Billy Howe, Martin Groves, myself and several others were out
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  Speaker 3: there and we spent the weekend at l E L
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  Speaker 3: and Billy was actually in the tent with me when
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  Speaker 3: I had a bear that was I mean, like, fire
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  Speaker 3: pit was five feet from the flap of the tent.
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  Speaker 3: There was a mama bear in her cub. They come
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  Speaker 3: walking around sniffing the fire pit and everything and snapping
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  Speaker 3: her jaw shit, letting me know I was there. She
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  Speaker 3: was there. Billy's asleep, and I'm sitting here with my
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  Speaker 3: forty five, like, please don't come in here, please don't.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean, the bears is scary enough. But
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  Speaker 1: if you're running into what you ran into back in
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia and you in your in you're ill there,
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole completely. How did that affect you? Man?
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  Speaker 1: What did that do to you?
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  Speaker 3: Oh? Gosh, If I think about it when I'm out
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  Speaker 3: in the woods. I'm done. I'm out unless I've got
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  Speaker 3: somebody else with me to help me watch my back.
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  Speaker 3: But if I'm out in the woods and I think
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  Speaker 3: about it, it's like I'm done. I can't do this, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Or I get out there and I'll sit in a
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  Speaker 3: deer blind because I ground from a deer blind, right
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  Speaker 3: And I'm sitting out there and I hear a stick
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  Speaker 3: break and it'll make me think that and I get
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  Speaker 3: scared and I can't control it. It's like PTSD, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes it takes me, sometimes it don't. But anyway to
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  Speaker 3: get it back into the meat of it all. I
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  Speaker 3: was living in Missouri, like I said, Actually I lived
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  Speaker 3: in Grove Spring, the Theory, and we were hanging home
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  Speaker 3: when that rocket went through. We'll come that Christmas. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I had just got off work and it was getting
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  Speaker 3: into December, and there I always would go out in
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  Speaker 3: the woods and harvest my own Christmas tree. You know,
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  Speaker 3: it's kind of my tradition. I use a different thing
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  Speaker 3: every time. Sometimes I'd use a hatchet or an ax
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  Speaker 3: or a bow, so it was always something different. It
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  Speaker 3: was like a little game I played with it to
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  Speaker 3: see if what kind of things I could figure out
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  Speaker 3: to do cut a tree down with, because I didn't
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  Speaker 3: want to start up a chain, so obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 3: make all kinds of racket just for one cut. But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I'd go to work late one evening and my ex
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  Speaker 3: was like, we need to go get the tree. I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: we've got a couple of weeks. You know, I'm tired.
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  Speaker 3: I just got off work. But she kept fussing wanting
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  Speaker 3: me to go get a tree. I'm like, okay, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: I said. I got out my mag light and I
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  Speaker 3: turned it on. It was dim. You know, I could
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  Speaker 3: tell the batteries are starting to go bad, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: the flashlight's history. She goes, it'll be fine, let's go.
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  Speaker 3: So I grabbed my thirty eight pistol and like a tomahawk.
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  Speaker 3: I was gonna cut it down with the tomahawk. Fay.
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  Speaker 3: So we go out in the woods, like a couple
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  Speaker 3: hundred yards to this spruce tree that we had previously
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  Speaker 3: picked out for the Christmas tree. And when I get
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  Speaker 3: up to this spruce tree, I get it cut down.
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  Speaker 3: I get it cut the links, and I start dragging
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  Speaker 3: it back out of the woods. And then I hear
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  Speaker 3: this noise and it sounds the only way I can
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  Speaker 3: describe this sound is you know the thrilled lizard on
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  Speaker 3: the first Jurassic Park that spits acid. Yes, it kind
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  Speaker 3: of sounded like that, you know, it was twittering and
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  Speaker 3: high pitch, but not exactly like that. I'm like, what
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  Speaker 3: is that? I have never heard anything like that in
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  Speaker 3: the woods. And it was it was like behind us.
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  Speaker 3: So I turned around and my flashlight mag light, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it wouldn't shine but maybe twenty five thirty feet and
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  Speaker 3: all I could see were eyes and they were like
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  Speaker 3: five and a half six feet up in the air,
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  Speaker 3: and this thing was bobbing its head and weaving like
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  Speaker 3: a lizard wood or a chicken. And I'm like, dear,
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  Speaker 3: don't make a kind of noise. And we don't have
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  Speaker 3: anything else weird like that around here, I said, And
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  Speaker 3: then I just to think it Bigfoot, Oh, the ones
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  Speaker 3: I'm messed with years ago when I was a kid.
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  Speaker 3: They sounded nothing like that. They didn't make that noise.
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  Speaker 3: And we're sitting there watching it. Well, I reach over
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  Speaker 3: and I pulled my thirty eight out of my holes
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  Speaker 3: through and when I did, this thing was standing underneath
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  Speaker 3: the tree and it shot straight up that tree. Oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, break the top of it. And then it
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  Speaker 3: was cleared at the top of this tree. It did,
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  Speaker 3: it went straight up, heard the tree was free air,
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  Speaker 3: but I didn't hear wings.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, were the eyes red by any chids? What
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  Speaker 1: color are the eyes?
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  Speaker 3: They were like a orange is colored, not red. They
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  Speaker 3: were like an orange colored eye, which I thought that orange,
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  Speaker 3: you know, they don't reflect that orange, right.
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  Speaker 1: I just had one of the curators from the Mothman Museum.
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  Speaker 1: I can't think it was name right off the top
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  Speaker 1: of my head, but he you know that I've learned
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  Speaker 1: so much about that and that sounds eerily similar to
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  Speaker 1: what I was listening to. It's very it's it's scary
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  Speaker 1: as shit, dude.
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  Speaker 3: Well, this thing when it went up the tree, it
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  Speaker 3: went up and it went over our heads. Me and
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  Speaker 3: my ex folks heard like the woodshit air. But it
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  Speaker 3: wasn't wings, you know, they sound totally different. But it
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  Speaker 3: went about twenty five thirty yards behind us and landed
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  Speaker 3: in the top of the tree and came down that
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  Speaker 3: tree to the ground and bumped that ground when it
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  Speaker 3: hit it. And I'm like, this tree can wait until morning. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we had to circle around through the woods and we
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  Speaker 3: could hear it moving off in the distance through the leaves.
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  Speaker 3: It was breaking, snapping twigs on the ground and rustling leaves.
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  Speaker 3: We got back to the house. But here's the scary part.
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  Speaker 3: About the time that thing hit the ground on the
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  Speaker 3: other side of us. I mean we're talking twenty five
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  Speaker 3: yards forty feet up in a tree, and it goes up,
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  Speaker 3: comes over twenty five yards and then lands in a
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  Speaker 3: tree about thirty yards behind us. I mean that is
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  Speaker 3: a heck of a distance right there, right, But anyway,
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  Speaker 3: about the time it hit the ground, that is when
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  Speaker 3: my mag late died. And I'm like, just stay behind me,
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  Speaker 3: and I kept my forties or that little It was
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  Speaker 3: a it was a thirty eight short. It wasn't even eight.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was a week thirty eight. But she's
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  Speaker 3: behind me freaking out, and I'm like, just be quiet,
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  Speaker 3: be quiet, and she goes, I'm gonna run. I said,
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  Speaker 3: don't run. Don't run. If you run, you are a food.
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  Speaker 3: Don't don't run. It makes you pray and it will
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: trigger an attack response or a predatory response.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: We got in the house and the next day we
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: went back in there, and I took something a little
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: more substantial than a thirty eight short. But we got
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: that tree back out of those woods. I mean I
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: hunted those woods for probably thirteen years and never saw
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: it again. I mean, never saw work after that.
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: If you had to make a for deestimation, what do
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: you think it was? If you had to make an assumption.
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: I have thought on it off and on over the years,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: and the closest thing I can think it could have
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: been was a rake. Okay, I mean people tell me
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: it's probably a rake that I mean. I don't research
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: rakes or anything like that. I don't really look into
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: those too well or too much other than you know,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: I'm watching to interview somebody talking about an encounter with them.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: But I didn't actually physically see it. But I saw
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: its eyes and I saw its physical capabilities, and it's
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: not something I wanted to play with.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but only when I hear about rakes. I always
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: hear them kind of like crawling on the ground. They're
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: kind of gaunts, and they got the long fingers and
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: stuff like that. But I've never heard them jumping up
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a tree. I have heard of somebody else saying something
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: that jumped up a t He said, he didn't know
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: what it was. It kind of just he's seen it.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: It went across like this little pathway and he's seen
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: it and seen it and then and then shot up
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: a tree. He said, I don't know what the hell
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that was. But yeah, yeah, that's that's insane, dude, that's insane.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: But I've had people suggest it could it could have
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: been a rake, because even though they like moved slow
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: on all fours on the ground or whatever, it doesn't
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: mean to hell have the capability to stand up. And
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: you know, anything that lives in the woods is just
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: in insane shape. I mean, you want to fight on it.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: You want to fight on your hands. You died on
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five pounds dough. I mean, in
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: my twenties, we were being stupid out and drinking, sitting,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: you know, in the back of the truck round the
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: back roads, you know, looking for possums or whatever, and
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: there was a dough that started running beside the truck. Now,
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: the other guy in the back of the truck with me,
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: he was like three hundred and twenty five pounds. He
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: was a big, bariable chested guy, and he also rode horses,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: and he had a rope in the the truck with him.
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: He lasts of that dough when she snatched him out
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: of that truck and drug him down the road, he
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: had let go throat.
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: I mean they are powerful, yeah, I mean even like
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: something is like minute as like even a squirrel or
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: a freaking chipmunk or something. They're out there there is
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: so much better shape than we are, and you have
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we have no idea we live such cluschey lives.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Will mess you up. The other thing that I had
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: experienced in Missouri is I lived in a home park
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: for a while. I did the maintenance there until we
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: moved to Grove Spring. But I was living in Hartville
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: at the time, or Heartsville, and this guy named David,
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: he owned black Hawk Forge, and he was running out
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: one of the barns and one of the mobile homes
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: you know, Blacksmith and all that. Well, he had a horse,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: but he didn't have a trailer. Well, the guy I
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: was working for had several pickups and cattle trailers and
• 19:57
  Speaker 3: stuff like that. Well, David wanted to go get his
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, all right, I'll drive you. Because he
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: didn't have a driver's license, you know. Anyway, my boss
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: asked me to go out there and get it. He said,
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: make sure he pays for gas, you know, make sure
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: he puts gas in the truck. We leave, and we
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: go out and we go up north of Marshfield, Missouri,
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: and turn on this side road. And he kept saying, oh, no,
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: we'll get gas later, We'll get gas later. I didn't
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: know how much gas was in the truck. Is gas
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: They didn't work. Next thing, you know, we run out
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: of gas on the side of the road. And of
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: course this is pre cell phone, so we just got
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: to sit here and wait for somebody and flag him
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: down and hope they have a gas can. I said,
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: we're sitting there waiting, and I'm sitting in the driver's seat.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Back then, I used to smoke a cigarettes. I'll smoking
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: a cigarette. I look over in the field and I
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: got out of the truck and I'm like, David, get
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: over here. I said, what is that? What it was about?
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: It was covering about five hundred feet in the air
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: over this field, and it was shaped like a cigar,
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: and we could see the profile of it. Just it
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: was gray or silver. It wasn't really reflective but it
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: was just sitting there hovering, and I'm like, what is that?
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: And he had no idea. But we sat there and
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: watched it for a minute. And then this thing rotates
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: it like this and shot straight up in the sky
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: like fat and went up to a mile and then
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: it come to a dead stop. I'm like, okay, we
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: don't have anything that moves like that. And then it
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: rotated like this, and then those down and shot back
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: down to like that five hundred feet level on the field,
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: and that it rotated back flat, and you know, we
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: could not figure out what the heck it was. I mean,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: this was also quite a ways of way, so I
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: mean it looked small. We could tell it was fairly substantial,
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: and it hovered there for about a minute and then
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it took off. It was gone,
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, just in an instant, out of sight. And
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: I've never seen a thing when you were like that
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: before or since. But like I said, whenever you start
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: experiencing these things, you become hyper aware and you very
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: rarely will miss something out of the ordinary. You know
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: there's something the ordinary, You'll catch it out of the
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: corner of your eye, and it's.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Like but even being that there might be like, you know,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: somehow people say this is all kind of connected. You know,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I don't have as much experiences as you or others.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: But not only are you hyper aware, but I think
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: they're hyper aware of you. Oh you kind of when
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: you kind of go through that initiation, if you will,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: what happened to you back when you were a kid
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: in the hollidayre that that could be just like you know, oh,
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: like like one sees it and they all see it,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: like it's a whole different frequency. And now you've kind
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: of stepped over that line, and now it's like you
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: are now open to everything, you know what I mean.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: It's just such a weird thing that people talking about.
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: Like the whole portal thing. I've never experienced it, But
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I won't call somebody a liar about portals and cloaking
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: and things like that. I can give them my opinion
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: and what it could be, but I've never experienced it,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: and I'm not about to call somebody, you know, a liar,
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: because then it's like I'm a liar. You can't know
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: what I mean. So it's just not a good thing
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: for And I've seen this in the communities too, where
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: you'll have one researcher saying one thing and one saying
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: another and disagreeing, and then they start calling each other liars,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: and it's like that's not good. I mean, if you
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: could you can agree or just say, hey, I've never
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: experienced it, so I don't know anything about that, you know.
• 23:36
  Speaker 4: And the best way that a lot of these researchers
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: and groups need to handle that kind of thing and
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: so arguing back and forth on what it is and
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: what it can do, and I mean who knows.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, we got fish that can or like fish
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: that could change colors, you know. I mean, you know,
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: we got lizards that can go up in a tree
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: and camelf in and disappear, you know. I mean, and
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: they have amazing abilities. And you can't say that these
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: things don't have that kind of ability either, you know,
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: it's just never experienced that kind of thing.
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about like even anything like
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: human history, you can talk about the conquest of Jengis
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Khan like that is written by one person and some
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: want to have a different thing. But somehow you don't
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: know that side because they don't have the connections to
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: the you know, whatever the museums or the universities of
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: the day, so a lot of information is put to
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: the side and it becomes like this ego thing, like, well,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: I've seen it this way, therefore it is that way.
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: But it's it's always been that way. And you can
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: even see it within our country now, that whole concept
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and idea where people just simply won't talk to one another.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: We won't do it. I remember when we were kids.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: We could we can have a difference of opinion, but
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we didn't talk about it. We were just cool. We
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: were just like, who gives a shit, man, Let's watch
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: the game, unless you know, Let's have a beer, Let's
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: talk some shit. Just jump in the pool, let's play
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: some horseshoes. What the hell is the problem? But people
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: just want to pick a side instead of being on
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the side of I don't know, America. Is that weird?
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: That's such a weird thing, you know. Why can't we
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: be on the side when it comes to cryptis and
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: weirdness and paranormal and high strangers. Why can't we be
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: on the side of Like, I don't know, this is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what I've experienced. Hey, let's meet up, let's team up.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Let's see where you went. What were you doing? Oh,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: that's interesting. I was doing something similar. Oh was this
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: time of year? Wow, here's some track. Okay, and let's
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: work it up and know we have that we have to.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: We're just these uh you know, these bipedal monkeys sometimes
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: are just pounding each other on top of the head.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: It just drives me crazy.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and it just I don't know, uh. I mean,
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: I try to be a very very respectful person, and
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: you know, I will listen to what anybody has to
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: say about it. But unless I personally see it, I
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: don't know in my head that it's fact. You know,
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: I don't. I can't get my head wrapped around some
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: of this is what I'm saying that I don't think
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: they're wrong. I just it's a really hard subject to
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: get your head wrapped around. Even if you've had experiences
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: starting as young as I did. It's still to this
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: day it's like, did that really happen? They do have happened.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I know what happened, but I tried to convince myself
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: at times that it happened because it's so hard to
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: get your head wrapped around this thing when it's like
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: a normal light and then you know you, oh no,
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: there was another Bigfoot.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, it's like baking an egg's breakfast, school
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: high mom, hide out, coloring books, uh, mister Reed and NICKD.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: Knight and then Bigfoot And you're like, where do I
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: put that in.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: With all this a slot in your head or something
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: like that when you're also leading just a normal life
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and you're not out there, like, you know, researching it
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: every weekend. You know, you know, you you go out
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: to a place a couple of times a year, and
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: it just doesn't fit in the slot of norm Yeah,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: exactly what James.
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: If you guys have any questions, go ahead and fire away.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: James Hood writes, when dealing with the paranormal, anything as possible.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: I agree what you wanted precent buddy Mississippi man, my buddy,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: my buddy, James Hood. Oh yeah, it's just uh, like
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: I said, any questions, go ahead and fire him away.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: At Chester about his experiences, So we went from whatever
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: you found in the woods trying to cut down that
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: tree to this cigar, this strange char We we've heard
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: of that multiple times.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It becomes it's like every other day there's something in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the sky that people are seeing now that's so strange.
• 27:35
  Speaker 3: Well, you got more people in population than you did
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: back then, so you got more eyes out there looking
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: and and now these kind of subjects are not as
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: quite as taboo as they were thirty years ago. You
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: know it, Tony Beann, in the last eight years did
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: it's you got more a lot of people talking about
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: it and everything. And you know, that's one good thing
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: about the Internet. It's maybe in the last eight years
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: it's become more acceptable. Like the kid that moved in
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: down the road and one I'm teaching archery. They had
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: a bunch of homage out there and they were doing
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: a barn raising. Well, I'll drive a red hummer and
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: he's just fascinated with it because I got big thirty
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: five inch mud tires on it. He loves that hummer line.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: So he was up by the road and he flagged
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: me down and I stopped and we sat there and
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: talked for a little bit and he's like, just out
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: of Lewis says I have a question. And I'm like okay.
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: He said, are there bigfoot out here? I'm like yes,
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: in nineteen year old kid just fires off. I'm like,
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: what do you got going on. He said, well, I've
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: been exploring all these the whole side of mountains all over.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Nineteen year old kid, he's got all the energy in
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the world. He runs up and down the mountains all
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: the time. Well, he told me that they've been hearing
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: stick breaks and woops and hollers, and they have been
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: here in the wood knocks at night. And I'm like, yeah,
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: you'll get that out here.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: And I said, if you.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Really want to hear it, these dogs out here don't bark.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: But on the nights, these dogs are barking. Just go outside,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: sit on your porch in a chair and listen and
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: you'll hear it, and then the dogs will start barking,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and then you'll hear it and it'll go on all night.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: I said, that makes me wonder now, dude, because I've
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: had times where I'm out there and the dogs won't bark.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Whoever I am. I lived in Pennsylvania for a year myself.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: There's also and you won't hear anything, just a train
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: rolling by once in a while, whatever. And then there's
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: nights where the dogs just go off. Yeah, And now
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: that makes me want to because I hear them go
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: off here too. In Mexico. But they do just like
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to bark and anything. But at the same time, there's
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: stuff that runs around in these streets too. Yeah, I'm
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: gonna start looking.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Now, but real before and then the dogs just start
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: going off.
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: He's asking what what state are you experiences in? This
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: is a podcast coming up next, guys.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: I lived in quite a few states, but it's I've
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: had experiences in Missouri, Kenas City, West Virginia. I had
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: a lot of experiences up there, but I didn't know
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: what it was when I was a kid. And that's
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: where the previous can't think the previous podcast this week
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: was about that. And then now that I live in
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: Middle Tennessee. Part of the time, I lived in town
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: and then we moved more rural and by a house
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: and it's been going on around here at the house. Okay,
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: but see my wife, she drove truck over the road
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: and I was on the phone with her one night
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: and she was on some back road somewhere I don't remember,
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: but it was a pull off. It was TI lane
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: road and there was a truck or pull off and
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: he'd got a boggy on her. She pulled off there
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: and she started she called me because she was getting
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: scared because she kept hearing noises howling out there and
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: whooping and you know, stick's getting banged on and stuff
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: like that. I told her to put me on speaker
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: and I listened. I'm like, you got a big foot
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: out there around you. Just keep your windows up and
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: stay inside the truck. And she said, like probably one
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: o'clock in the morning, someone came up and just violently
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: shoved her truck. And then when she looked in her mirror,
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: she hopped up. It was nothing there, but it was
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: on the woods side of her truck, like something just
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: come up, put a hand to bug her window on
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the edge of the roof, and just whole truck shot violently.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: She thought I was gonna flip over. And she's in
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: a fully loaded eighteen wheeler, but she thought this thing
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: was gonna flip it over.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: Shit, dude, it's uh yeah, Magic rights that he's in
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Murphy's Borough. So he calls you, hey, neighbor. He has
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: a he has a show too that he's coming up
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: right after, right after the show, the Magical Journey podcast,
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: So check that out. Uh yeah, your wife also experienced
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: things out where you're living there. She also hearing it. Yes.
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: Uh, she's had more experiences this past summer because she
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: retired from over the Road and then went into CNA
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: classes and she's doing home healthcare part time anyway, so
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: she spends a lot more time at home, I mean
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: home every night. Well, she decided this year since I
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: had bought a bunch of seed package when COVID hit,
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: because I was planning, you know, on getting a gardener going.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: But anyway, she has actually been back in her bedroom
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: and she heard something outside. She heard like a rock
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: smack of rock. Well, we'd get a coy point out
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: there with goldfitch and coy in it, a bunch of them.
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: And she flipped on the back light and opened the
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: door and looked outside and she saw it run on
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: all fours up the mountain and disappeared. I mean, she said,
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: it was just gone. It was like it was hunched
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: over in the pond after a fish and then it
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: just jumped and took off running up the mountain. Well,
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: she told him about it next morning, and I'm like, yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: that's what I call my watcher. And she said, what
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: do you mean you're a watcher And I'm like, you
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: don't look out the windows at night because sometimes it'll
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: be looking back in. So, yeah, how.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Did she take this information?
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: She had a hard time wrapping her head around that.
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: She's like, they don't know because you know, some people
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: they see it and they just still don't believe what
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: they just saw. And she just thought time quarters up
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: through there. And she said, it wasn't no bigger. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: don't know what it was. And I explained to her,
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: and I told her about what I'd gone through in
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: West Virginia. So, I mean, I told her, I know
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: it's real. I was just hoping it wouldn't gonna be
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: out here. Well, she's planted her little garden out there,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: and she had like six beefsteak tomatoes because she only
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: put out a couple of plants. She had like twenty
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: roma tomatoes, you know, and they were green, they were
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: getting ready to ripen, you know, they were just starting
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: to get to turn orange. She went out there the
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: next morning to water her garden. Every one of her
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: tomatoes was gone. It stole all of her tomatoes. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: she was mad, I mean, she was living. She goes,
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I catch it out there in my garden. She says,
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I'm getting after that shotgun. I mean, she was so
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: mad because she had so much work in that garden. Well,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: we had a bunch more tomatoes start coming up, and
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know how to keep it out
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: of there. I set up a trail cam facing her garden.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: No more tomatoes were taking.
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: That's so interesting. That's so interesting.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: The kid up the road, he planted a huge garden,
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: put a fence around it for the deer, and it
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: got in there and stole a bunch of his tomatoes
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: and peppers. And he said it took every one of
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: his pump or not his pumpkins, his watermelons, took all
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: of them. It's just over a course of the week,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: all those veggies were gone. You want to talk about
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: getting mad? He was mad.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just so interesting, Like like I think people
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: need to document that, like you know where you're and like, okay,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: I planted this last year. Okay, it's green and green,
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: and then kind of slowly do it like a volg
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and then it's gone, and then show like whatever signs
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: if there's a bend on the fence or anything like that,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: and then go ahead and show like the aftermath, and
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: then the videotape the same now that there again nothing happening,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: because it's so we have to document this in as
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: many ways as possible. I think I don't know how
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: how we do it. Maybe audio recorders, because they seem
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: to be okay with those sometimes, but not the video ones.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Can you can you speak to anything about that?
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: I think that okay. From what I've experienced with my encounters,
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: I have never really seen one in the daytime. I
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: think they're nocturnal, and I think they are capable of
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: seeing the light spectrum on those cameras, because those cameras
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: have a light spectrum that it uses in order for
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: that being to be broken in that camera to activate,
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: and I believe they can see.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: That, right right. I thought it was maybe something along
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: the time the lines of being electronic, like they can
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: sense the change in the air or something. But if
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: they can see it, that makes more sense because that
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: would explain the difference between the video recorder and an
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: audio recorder. That's that's a great thought, man, great thought.
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: And see they whenever I was a kid, I mean,
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: this thing tracked my scent through all over those mountains.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: It would follow that every path that I took. And
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: then when I'd go up through there again. I'd see
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: its tracks right online, and I think they have a
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: very very very sensitive nose like a bloodhound to be
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: able to attrack somebody, because I mean, I've gone up
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: there when it was rainy, so there should have been
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: no scent, right and come back in the rain, and
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: that should have washed the sand away, should have washed
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: away by trail. But the next time I walked out
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: there the next morning, there's its tracks with my tracks.
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: It had to have followed my scent because there wouldn't
• 37:07
  Speaker 3: have been a physical trail to see. I mean, you
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: don't make hardly any tracks, and you know wet leaves
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: you also down.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you were also mentioning on the show like you
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: had a you had a really really fascinating idea. We
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: can kind of rehash that a little bit about before
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: one one and people relieving themselves. Could you go that was?
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: That was a great like insight from your behalf, your behalf.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Whenever whenever I was in West Virginia and going back
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: up in the mountains and everything, I would camp out
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: every weekend. I mean I'd say I'm going to stay
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: over at Brand's house and I'd go there and I'd
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: stay back in the mountains by myself, and I didn't
• 37:46
  Speaker 3: have a tent, so I would make primitive shelters. I
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: was also reading the book White Thing, and it puts
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: a lot of emphasis on how animals mark their territory.
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: You know, you go and you have a dog pe
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: a tree. He's marking that as his. If you go
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: over there and mark that, you're marking it as yours.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: You just challenged him. And that's the way it is
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: with all animals that mark their territory. Well, we pretty
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: darned sure that Bigfoot leans up tree structures as markings,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: or take the tree and step it down in the ground,
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: roots up. I mean, that's a marking that's telling you
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: this is mine. I didn't know any of this. I
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: didn't know Bigfoot existed at that time. And what I
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: did was I went up there and I took down
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: some of these structures and I built myself a lean
• 38:33
  Speaker 3: to shelter and I hung out there for a while.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: But I didn't have any food and provisions with me,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: so I went back home to go eat and you know,
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: get my provisions so I could camp out that weekend.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: I went up there that weekend intending to camp out
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: and my lean to was tore down and the sticks
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: are propped back up, and like, oh, I wonder what
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: did that? And then I'm taking maybe some piker come
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: up through here and or some kid come up through here,
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: which the kids weren't allowed to go up in that area.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: And I mean we're talking real remote, but I was
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: trying to make sense of it. Well, I built my
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: lean to back and I'm like, well, if it's an animal,
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I'm going to mark this as mine. So I went
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: around and I peed on several trees around where my
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: camp was gonna be, and I'm sitting here thinking to
• 39:23
  Speaker 3: myself and snickering, I'm going to make something mad. Well,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: then I decided I'm just gonna go home and I'll
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: come back next weekend. I went back up there the
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: following weekend, and every tree on the top of that
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: mountain was snapped off like six seven feet in the ear.
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: I mean trees this bigger round were snapped in two
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: and thrown it. I mean something on a rampage on
• 39:48
  Speaker 3: that mountaintop. It was very, very angry. But the thing
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: is when it get up there and realized what I
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: had done, I was nowhere to be seen right. It
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: couldn't just physically attack me for the disrespect I had
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: just showed it. And that's when it followed me out
• 40:09
  Speaker 3: of the mountains, and it set its little trap and
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: ambushed for me and came after me. And now that
• 40:15
  Speaker 3: I'm older, I realized, if I think one of me dead,
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: I could have been dead.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: I would have been.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: It could have easily smashed through that house and just
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: slaughtered us all. And by the time anybody called the
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: cops or whatever, it had been gone, you know, and
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: they just said, oh, it's a bear attack. But my
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: theory is a lot of these missing forward one one cases.
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: I've read several of them, and it's like we were
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: hiking up this trail and this person or such and
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: such had to use the bathroom. Well, you know, man,
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: and the guy I'm gonna go in the wounds with
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: pea on a tree. Don't ever do that. Please your
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: marking territory that's not yours as yours, and you could
• 40:56
  Speaker 3: trigger an attack like that. Yeah, I recommend everybody kick
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: leaves off the ground, get it to dirt, use the
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: bathroom there, and pick it back over, because there could
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: be a number that's dissing more one. One cases somebody
• 41:07
  Speaker 3: going out in the woods and they make it up
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: the hiking trail, but they stopped on the way to
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: use the bathroom. And then when they come back, it's
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: setting there waiting and they get snatched from the back
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: of the line and gone because they can. I mean,
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of cases. Everybody's walking down through there
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: and then they turn around and that person's gone. Well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: he was right behind me, and they never find a
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: trace of them, but they probably don't remember that person
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: stepping off trail and using the bathroom. One of them
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: stepping off trail and using the bathroom don't have to
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: be the one to get snatched, right, but like, yeah,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: he walked ahead and running around the bin and got snatched,
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: or he was right behind me and got snatched, And
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: a lot of them could.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Be that, yeah, and then being you know, if you
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: want to go through the biological aspect of it, and
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: being an upright you know, humanoid with opposable thumbs that
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: kind of look like us, but much larger and different.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: You know, that smell. If they're able to like do
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: like you're saying with the you know, when you went
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: up through there when it was raining, they had that
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: bloodhound scent. They're thinking maybe you know that you're challenging them,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and it's also really connected closer to their DNA of
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: sorts possibly maybe who knows. Uh, we're still working on that.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: And it's just it's just like, you know, to use
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: some kind of leftist type ideology, some trigger mechanism. Make
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: sure you don't use their wordings, guys, use your own wordings,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: some mechanism. Yes, you have to make it's a it's
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: a it's a battle of language too. You have to use.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Language and different kind of situation. Either you wouldn't even
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: have to mark a marked tree. All you would need
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: to mark a tree within its known territory, and you're
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: you're asking for it. No, anytime you're out in the woods,
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: don't ever use a bathroom on a treat for any
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: right structure.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So a personal question, I guess I want to ask you,
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: so what do you plan on doing with this information
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: other than disseminating? Are you planning on actually doing something
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: of your own to help people come forth or.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: To all the time, See like the neighbor kid Riggs,
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: he's exploring up your lot and he's getting like little encounters,
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: but nothing major. But he's like been up on the
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: mountain and then he's coming down. He had two big rocks,
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I mean big rocks, like they had gotten thrown and
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: they were bounced in his direction down the mountain. But
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: he's doing a lot of exploring and he's trying. He
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: wants to become a researcher too, so we might you know,
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: this year, next year, we might be having him in
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: an interview too. I mean he's having experiences with woodenknocks, whoops,
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: chickens getting stolen, his garden getting raided.
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, if you ever felt like you could can talk,
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: contact me as well, and you know that way you can.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: You know, we can just kind of because we're trying
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: to build a it sounds weird. I mean to show
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: you have to put it on YouTube as entertainment. This
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: is entertainment, guys, This isn't real. But we have to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: build these communities, man, because there's a lot of that, uh,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: you know a lot of people smashing each other's kneecaps
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: and shins what we were talking about earlier. But that's
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: not what I want to do. That's what the hell
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I want to do. I just want to get it
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: out there and hopefully people find it and didn't feel
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: like they're not alone, because there's still even with the
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: Internet as far reaching as it is, there's still people
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: who are not willing to even think about the concept
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: they're even talking to anybody else about it, and people
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: like yourself as many as other chills time. Thank you
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: for sharing. Hey, you're welcome very much. Uh, same the times. Yes, no, yes,
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: that's next weekend. Yes, that's just coming up. So I
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: had on a lady. She has a channel, dude. Her
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: name is uh I can't remember her name, but I
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: called her Northwest Native Tracker. That's an her show, and
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: she is the last of her kind to do like
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: a rite of passage, you know, ritual for her tribe
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy eight, and she and met three different
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: types of them, which was said by her elders that
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: they're out there. And I actually finally here's her channel.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: Guy.
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: She is awesome. Yes, I agree, thank you, And I
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: finally had her on and she's going to be I
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: think her episode. I'm gonna make sure I do not
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: mistake and identify that, so you guys to check that
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: out too. That is coming up. Yes, yes, it was Chester. Yeah,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: so be coming out next Tuesday to twenty first in
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: the afternoon. Don't miss that one, guys, even though you
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: don't get to see her video face because she wasn't
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: able to get all the bugs out of it trying
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: to get her on the show, like three freaking four
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: months Chester and I finally got her on and it's
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: one of those episodes that you guys don't want to miss.
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: And there's a lot of things that you're talking that
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you're talking. Yes, she is a great pem uh that
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: what you're talking on. You can even talk to her
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: to just write her and you'll find out some things
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: about maybe that you didn't think about. Where the thing
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: she was telling me, dude, she said one thing to me,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: yours was like physically scary, like that hole where it
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: grabbed you and ripped the back of your shirt and
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: then like it's looking at you through the windows in
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: your three sided windowed room and you know that all
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: that chaos. But this thing was like tricked her. Took
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: her bow because she was out there like shooting ground
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: birds for food, took her bow, put it in this
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: holler where at the end of the creek, there's like
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: this swamp area, and this what they do is they
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: like trick you. They put it there, got her in
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: the swamp. She found it, and when she goes to
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: pick it up, this thing came from out behind the
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: tree and said, well, can I help you in English?
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: And she said no and walk through the swamp and
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: another type was actually protecting her from this type. So
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: there's many types. Yeah, dude, it's one of those one
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: of those shows that is just fascinating.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Well, I've got out here. I deer hunted last year.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I didn't have any luck because I'd waited too long
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: in the season because once deer season gets here, this
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: thing is coming and it's going to get here and
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: then the hunting is going to be rap. So I
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: had nother look whatsoever. Last year anyway, I had left
• 47:30
  Speaker 3: my deer blind up there is pop up rhino blind.
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: I had a stak down really good, had my chair
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: in it, and I'm like, I'll just get it later,
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: you know, I keep feel myself I'll get it later. Well,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I'll wait for my wife to come home, because she
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: can walk up there easier than I can.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I don't.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: I don't walk very well anymore, and I don't do
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: hills very well at all. But I was just gonna
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: have her go up there and pop it down and
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: bring it down here. Well, this thing was messing with
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: her garden and all that, and whenever she walked out
• 47:57
  Speaker 3: there one night because she heard it over and we
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: got a big thicket of bamboo's. This stuff's like forty
• 48:02
  Speaker 3: feet tall and I mean it's thick. Well, there's a
• 48:05
  Speaker 3: washout gully on the other side of this bamboo. And
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: she heard that thing out there and she goes, hit, there,
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: do not be after my tomato plants. She grabbed a
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: shotgun and a spotlight went out there and like maybe
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: forty fifty feet away is where this revine is where
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: she then she's pointing the shotgun at it. She goes,
• 48:23
  Speaker 3: I am those not cheap. I don't do warning shots,
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: is what she said. And then all of a sudden,
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: she felt this thing hit her in the chest. She
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: didn't hear it, she felt it in her chest. It
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: was the infrasound that people talk about, which I've it
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: several times, and I had the screaming roar of the infrasound,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: and it's an eerie feeling to get that infrasound hitting you,
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, a voice in her
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: said head pretty much told her you're in danger, go
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: back inside. But it wasn't like she was thinking. It
• 48:55
  Speaker 3: was like a boy scout pushed into her head that
• 48:59
  Speaker 3: you're in danger side and she just slowly backed away
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: and went back in the house and put the shotgun
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: beside the bed again that she just couldn't explain it.
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: And then I said, it was like it was almost
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: like a radar signal hit you and you felt it,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: but you didn't hear it. She goes exactly what it was.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: And it was like a few nights later that she
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: heard the samurai chatter out by the pond. Yeah, she's
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: heard the samurai chatter. Never heard it, but she's heard it.
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: I mean it's I mean, we have activity out here
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: every year season. Like several years ago, pre COVID, my
• 49:38
  Speaker 3: daughter got into an argument with her husband, loaded up
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: the kids and came out here and told me when
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: she was halfway here, I'm like really, So she came
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: out and of course I haven't been around kids and years,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: and these kids tear everything up. I mean they tear
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: into everything. They climb our drawers like a ladder. Most
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: destructive kids I've ever seen. And I hate to say
• 50:05
  Speaker 3: that about it, like my own grandkids, but they are.
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: And that's a reflection on how she's raising them. But anyway,
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: for her birthday, she invited a friend down from Kentucky.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: I didn't know about it. My daughter says, I'm gonna
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: go drive around for a while, blah blah blah, loads
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: of kids. Goes to the edge of Kentucky. Brings her
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: friend back down here and I told her, I said,
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: I'm not doing friends overnight. I don't do overnight boy friends. Well,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: it was late at night and they had been drinking
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: on the way back, so she wasn't going to take
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: her back, not that night, and I just told him.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I told her, I was like, all right, you can
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: stay here. I said, but I'm going to warn you
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: ahead of time. If you get up for anything in
• 50:47
  Speaker 3: the middle of the night, don't be looking out the windows.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: You might see something you don't want to. Well, I
• 50:53
  Speaker 3: laid down on the couch. I lay down on the
• 50:56
  Speaker 3: couch and I was about half to sleep, and I
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: heard her get up use the bathroom, and then she
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: went to go in the kitchen to get her glass
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: of water. Well, behind me is where the living room, kitchen,
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: and dining room is all one big room. And then
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: this way where you can't see is a big bay window.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: It's you know, got two angle sides and a flat side.
• 51:17
  Speaker 3: It's a big bay window. And she stopped and she
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: was staring at that window, and her mouth was dropped open,
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: and then all of a sudden, she just started using
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: the bathroom on my floor. She peed all over herself.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: It scared the hell out of and she ran into
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: the bathroom and shut the door. Well, I got out
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: of them off, and I cleaned it up and everything,
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: you know, like just calm down, get yourself a shower.
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: I'll get my daughter to get you a change of clothes.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: And that's how it went. When she come back out,
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: she sat down on the couch beside me, and she goes,
• 51:51
  Speaker 3: what was that? And I explained to her what I
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: have going on out here during Deer Sea Theory year,
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: and she goes, but it's face was in that upper window.
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, Well, the next morning I walked out
• 52:05
  Speaker 3: there and she goes, well, that window can't be that
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: high off the ground. I'm six foot two. And when
• 52:10
  Speaker 3: I stepped over to that window. The window sills like
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: this to me, and its head was like way up there.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: So we're talking nine feet yeah, and.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: Anymore.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: Next morning she's like, I'm going home. Oh yeah, she said,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I'm out of here. That's my daughter. You know. Don't
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: go outside after dark unless I'm with you and I'm armed. Well, anyway,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: she's like why. And well that night I walked outside
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: and I heard it up on because behind my house
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: I call it extreme off road of mowing. It's where
• 52:55
  Speaker 3: the patio is, and it goes over and goes up
• 52:58
  Speaker 3: real steep, and then it had a flat stone area,
• 53:01
  Speaker 3: like just big rock and then it's like flat there,
• 53:04
  Speaker 3: and then it goes way up to the top of
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: the mountain behind you know, on my property. But you know,
• 53:10
  Speaker 3: whenever it's the flat spot, that's where the trees start. Anyway,
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: that next night I heard or that night I heard
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: sticks breaking up there, and I'm like her boyfriend was
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: over here too, he was getting ready to go home,
• 53:22
  Speaker 3: and I'm like, guys, come out here on the back
• 53:25
  Speaker 3: patio and they're like why. I said, I'm going to
• 53:28
  Speaker 3: show you why you don't go outside after dark unless
• 53:31
  Speaker 3: I'm armed in with you, and I tut in the
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: flashlight up there, and here's a set of eyes that
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: are like four feet off the ground. And they're like,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: what is that? I said, just wait and then are like, well,
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: those eyes are like that far apart. I'm like, just wait.
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: And then it stood up and they're like, oh crap,
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: oh crap. They were in the I mean they were
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: in that door and they shut the door. I had
• 53:53
  Speaker 3: to to get back in the house. But they learned
• 53:58
  Speaker 3: you don't stare out the night. Guy's hearing it.
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Cats Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh they're a little hellions. Man.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: So this is going to continue on. So there's gonna
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: bending seasons coming up. So you're saying they're going to
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: be coming back.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: Oh it's back now. It's back now. It's just not
• 54:19
  Speaker 3: as active as it it's not as active as it
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: gets later on in the season. It's like the later
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: in the honting season gets, the more active it gets,
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: the more it moves around out here at night and
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: runs the deer off. But it just kind of here
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: and then leaves, you know, for a few days, and
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: it's here and then at leaves for a few days
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: and then about the time about mid rifle season, it's
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: like here every night. So what I've got is some
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: solar powered center lights. Okay, I'm going to turn it out,
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: and maybe that'll discourage it from getting and staying in
• 54:58
  Speaker 3: my hunting area because they don't like to trigger those
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: uv bemes. They can see them, they avoid them, but
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: they try to avoid those. So if I put those
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: maybe in my hunting area, it'll kind of back away
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: a little while.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: That's true. That's what you're gonna tell me about that
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: when you come when you come back eventually, dude, because
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: I would love to hear all the all the updates
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: and that whatever. Uh, dude, it's been a pleasure man,
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: Like always, buddy, you're very good. You're very good at
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: what you're doing. I really appreciate you coming forth and
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: talking to me about this way.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: Hey, you're great at doing interviews too, man. I mean,
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: you know a way when somebody gets back in their
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: head and they're nervous and scared because they you got
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: to got to relive it in order to talk about it,
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: and you don't talk about it all the time, so
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: you get the goosebumps and you get nervous about talking
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: about it because you're kind of reliving it, and you
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: just have this way about you that kind of calms
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: me down whenever I start talking about it and get nervous. Well,
• 55:59
  Speaker 3: thank you know, it's not I'm nervous about telling it.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: I'm nervous about reading living it in my head.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: I can well. I try to make sure that to
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: remind people of the human side, Like I try to
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: make them feel like, Okay, you know, we're here to
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: listen to you, and I try to you know, I
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: try to be h funny. I try to make people relax,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: and I hope that does shine through, and you say
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: it does so.
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: Yeahs, and then you just kind of, you know, you'll
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: interject when you could tell I'm getting nervous and try
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: to stop. You know. It kind of helps to calm
• 56:35
  Speaker 3: the people down that are doing the interviews.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: It's uh, it's uh. I guess I've picked it up
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: through time, but it's not. It's definitely conscientious. I just
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: want people to when you have something that's supernatural that
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: happens to you, it's very important to remind people of
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: the humanity that that they feel they may have lost,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: you know, and kinda and kind of break that up
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: and just be like Hey, dude. You know, let's some
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: people are very serious. There's some people, you know, you
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: have to kind of walk them through the interview. There
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: some people that just want to talk and you just
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: let them walk. And there's people like you where it's
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: kind of fifty to fifty. You know, you talk a
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: little bit, you give me a natural pause and it's
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: just something that you pick up through time. But you're
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: a great interviewee as well. And could you stick around
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: for a second. I'd like to talk to you after
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: the show real quick, that's possible, okay, man, So all right, guys,
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: thanks for dropping by. We are the Eye, We are Aware.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: Thank you Jessin very much, and have yourself a wonderful weekend. Later,
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  Speaker 3: Sh