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9 Years Sober and Still Getting Pressure: Here's How I Stay Steady | Episode 491 · Voices for Voices®

• 0:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hi everyone, it's Justin.
• 0:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Hope everybody's having a great day.
• 0:06
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• 0:13
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• 0:23
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• 0:30
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• 2:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh we just want to thank you uh for for us to be a charity and to be where we're at with as many episodes, is truly uh humbling uh as a leader, as somebody who wants to help at least three billion people over the course of my lifetime and beyond.
• 2:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And uh again, thank you for for tuning in.
• 2:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: This is uh really brightened my day, brighten my days.
• 2:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, I look forward uh to uh to life uh a lot more now uh for many reasons.
• 2:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: One of which is this show, because I I am able to, whether it's through a guest or through me or both, we're able to just talk about human human topics, experiences, uh, without regard of politics.
• 3:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We bring up politics only when there are uh particular topics and areas where someone is uh in our favor of helping others.
• 3:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that's that's what I'm here for.
• 3:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've come to that conclusion.
• 3:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um because uh a charity uh just in general, if I think before Voices for Voices was founded, if I thought of a charity, one of the things that I probably wouldn't think uh would be true is to have nearly, and we're gonna are gonna hit 500.
• 4:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So uh to have so many episodes with so many people, so much diversity, uh taking a stand on issues, on experiences that nobody should have to go through.
• 4:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Doesn't matter what the income level where you live, we live in a gated community, uh, how many cars you have, it doesn't matter.
• 4:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What matters is we're all human.
• 4:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We put our clothes on, you know, one uh one leg uh at a time.
• 4:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, and we know that there are uh individuals who have lost a limb.
• 5:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um and we just give so much thanks and and and pray for everybody, whether you're a believer or not, because we all are sinners, we all we all have faults, we all do that number one right here.
• 5:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I have a lot of faults.
• 5:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh so as we now work our way into uh not only here in the United States, springtime finally looks like it may be holding on, uh it's taking a bit, and then we go back to our episode on the groundhog, and that you can check that out where you know we talk about you know that you see the shadow and did not, and what all that means, and uh so that that was a fun episode when we did that.
• 6:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We we had some fun with that, uh, which we try to do, uh, but we also cover very difficult topics.
• 6:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: As I learn, as I've whether somebody thinks I've matured or not uh since I was younger, as I've learned more and more and more and grown, at least in age, there are so many things that make uh make life difficult for us.
• 6:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just to add, you know, to have another birthday, another day, another hour, another minute, another second.
• 7:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh time doesn't stop.
• 7:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and that's why I feel a sense of urgency when it comes to what we share and what we talk about.
• 7:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um because there is urgency to talk about these topics, because we want people to feel safe.
• 7:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We want them to be safe.
• 7:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We want people that don't follow the laws um to be you know handed justice.
• 7:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that is a key key area, a key point.
• 7:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'll give you I'll give you an example on how uh we talk about growing or at least by age, at least by you know another birthday, is we can so let's let's actually take the clock back twenty years, twenty-five years ago in my life, as I would sit here, stand here, uh, and it would be a Friday, I would be thinking, okay, what alcohol am I gonna drink?
• 8:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: What am I gonna pre-game, you know, before going out to the bar or the club or what have you.
• 8:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh and so I was just consumed with that uh that mindset, just totally consumed.
• 9:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Now, fast forward, I want to spend with family.
• 9:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I want to uh spend it with my immediate family.
• 9:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh if anybody in my immediate family has a ball game, uh a recital, that's what I have to look forward to.
• 9:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And that makes me just as I'll say just as happy than again 25 years ago, when it was like, all right, what am I gonna drink and who's gonna be out and all these things?
• 9:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um I was on a just a bad path for the most part, and to know that I can be sober going on nine years in in November and still feel joy or something to look forward to.
• 10:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I look forward to Dodge recitals, the things that she does, the things that she is is into.
• 10:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I can always be a better person, I can always be a better father.
• 10:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We all can be better people, and so as you know, we're we're here in the United States on Eastern Time Zone, as we're filming this on Friday, that's what I look forward to.
• 11:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it again it makes me happy, makes me want to look forward in the same thing.
• 11:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like I get to see my I get to see family members, you know, play ball or have a recital, um and so many other things that uh hang out with our dog that's sitting on my back and my shoulders.
• 11:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um things like that just never really crossed my mind before.
• 11:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh well, number one, I'm dog-wise, we I didn't have a dog, so take that out of the equation.
• 11:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And obviously, there were times where I didn't have nephews because they weren't born yet.
• 12:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um but in a good good sense, it's almost the tale of two lives.
• 12:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And now I I feel heading into the weekend, I feel a sense of gratitude, number one, that I'm here another day because none of us are promised another day, another minute, another hour, another second.
• 12:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's a lot of craziness going on in the world.
• 12:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so, first and foremost, to make it another day is really a really a blessing, whether you're a believer or not, uh to make it another day at any given time, could have a heart attack, could have a stroke, could have an aneurysm, could have so many different health issues that could just in the snap of a second take everything from oh, well, we were just doing this particular thing, and now all of a sudden, maybe we get a diagnosis that we have a disease that's uncurable, life changes, the outlook changes.
• 13:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so as I sit here, as we have our have our time together, each and every listener, each and every uh viewer, each and every follower, we're so grateful to have this opportunity to talk, to share, to hopefully inspire, to have at least one person stand up for themselves to reach out for help that didn't think life was worth it.
• 14:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Like, all right, well, nobody cares about me.
• 14:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I can't make it.
• 14:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And and and so unfortunately, sometimes those are some of the last thoughts of individuals before they leave this world, this earthly world that we are living in.
• 15:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I just want to be a light for anybody, the show mental challenges.
• 15:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We talked about the autism, you know, we're still on the autism awareness month.
• 15:31
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, people poke fun and at different things.
• 15:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I know when I was very young, I wasn't the kindest person.
• 15:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I I apologize to any anybody who's on the other end of whether it's comments or actions or uh anything because I'm no better than anybody else.
• 16:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm I'm a human being.
• 16:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Put our pants on one leg at a time.
• 16:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so to have the outlook kind of shortened up to.
• 16:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: See, I I used to be a look out into the future five, ten, fifteen years.
• 16:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And while I still do that and have goals that are like that, I don't spend a majority of my time on those.
• 16:56
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I spend more time and more focus because I've lost focus a lot where I find my mind so far into the future that I overlook, you know, some of the beauty of the world.
• 17:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, just having blue skies, and maybe the sun's out.
• 17:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe somebody's walking their dog and never seen a dog that size, that that the hair a certain color, just going, oh, that was neat to see, or to see other animals uh or seeing a ball game of just sitting there and having it be not about me, it's about somebody else, and to be okay with that.
• 18:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've had a lot of those moments where it's all about me is the only thing I think about.
• 18:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean we have to think about ourselves, you know, with the food, clothing, shelter, all those things, you know, that before we can start moving up Maslow's hierarchy of needs, but to stop and just be present in the moment to simplify life as much as possible.
• 18:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's things that we can't impact that we can't control.
• 19:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I run into this myself on many occasions.
• 19:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's always easy, and I get it, it's easier said than done.
• 19:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But I know for me being a person that's at least giving it a shot, giving it a try.
• 19:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's the best I can do.
• 19:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's the best anybody can do is try.
• 19:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Try the the next time we're in a situation or an experience, we can maybe learn a little bit from previous experience and previous time.
• 19:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know.
• 19:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think I think we're all here for a reason.
• 20:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And again, you don't have to be a believer.
• 20:04
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: All you have to be is a human being and say, Well, yeah, I was born and now I'm growing up, and yeah, but think of how many people weren't born and haven't been born, won't be born.
• 20:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You can't help but think, why me?
• 20:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Why am I here?
• 20:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Why am I still here given a series of absolutely awful, bad, not nice decisions that I've made over my lifetime?
• 20:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They've gotten better on the trajectory, they've gotten better.
• 20:59
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So the trend line is starting or has, I would say, since 2017, exiting the hospital.
• 21:12
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Gotten better, getting better.
• 21:16
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um that's all we can do.
• 21:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And it's so much easier when we talk about it or journaling.
• 21:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm an introvert, which means I keep a lot of things myself.
• 21:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't I don't talk a whole lot to a whole lot of people.
• 21:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh mostly through text, email.
• 21:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I'm getting better.
• 21:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't think anybody Ever reaches a point of perfection, number one, and number two, we can either have a positive outlook, a healthier outlook, which is where going to a ball game looking forward to that, and not to the alcohol portion of well, once the ball game's over, then I'm just gonna drink.
• 22:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I gotta make sure I have whatever alcohol or what you know at at my disposal so I can do that.
• 22:54
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've repried or reprietor.
• 22:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm sure that may be a word somewhere.
• 23:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I apologize.
• 23:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I so I've repried or attized sleep, so I don't stay up as late as I I used to.
• 23:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And some of it was to film some shows, film you know, some episodes.
• 23:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But then I started thinking about my sleep hygiene.
• 23:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It was all over the place because some nights I'd be up till 11, some nights I'd be up till 2 a.m.
• 23:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: or 3 a.m.
• 23:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And a great majority of those times there wasn't well, I don't want to say all, but a great majority of those times there wasn't anything life-altering that was changing.
• 24:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: However, I will say some of the episodes in our portfolio were filmed late, late at night, early the next morning.
• 24:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so, yeah, those times brought episodes, and then we went up a number, and then up another number.
• 24:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But on the cusp of reaching five hundred, five hundred anything is it's incredible, it's remarkable.
• 24:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know how else to to talk about it.
• 25:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But like I said, looking forward to a weekend of you know healthy, healthier choices.
• 25:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I know is gonna resonate with at least one person watching, listening.
• 25:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That doesn't mean that again, I I I have to harp on this because there's some people out there who think they're sinless.
• 25:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Nobody is in this world, this earthly world.
• 25:40
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: No, and so all I know is if I'm making a healthier decision, like well, I don't need to be out till 3 a.m.
• 25:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: getting drunk for so many reasons that that would be taking me back to zero of where I started from.
• 26:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You know, and then some people will say, well, no, you can just have one or two.
• 26:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's not how my mind operates.
• 26:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm one of these you know, like all or nothing type of people, and I've recognized that.
• 26:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I am unfortunately, and people say, Oh, let's go have a drink.
• 26:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Not not now, but back in the days when I was doing that, and again, it this is not to say that you have to be like me.
• 26:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You don't have to.
• 27:00
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm just giving you my experience.
• 27:03
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm not against people, they want to drink alcohol, they want to do do things that that that that's okay.
• 27:10
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That I'm not condoning it, uh, but I'm not gonna you know tell somebody how to live their life.
• 27:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I'm just gonna share my experiences and maybe they resonate with maybe one person.
• 27:27
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But just to make a healthier decision of okay, maybe that maybe that's help me live another day.
• 27:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe it's something else completely that I don't even know.
• 27:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But if you asked me in my twenties if I would make it to age 44, I probably would have said no.
• 28:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Because I was in that, I was just in that constant loop of just making not great decisions.
• 28:19
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And even in my teens, so now that I'm here, I I mean, I think we all have kind of two decisions.
• 28:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Do we want to live or uh or do we not?
• 28:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And voices for voices has given me on top of being married and seeing my daughter born and spending time with family that I've neglected so much, so much.
• 29:08
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's just terrible that those things are what what's important now.
• 29:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I remember the first time since I went sober years ago being in a club atmosphere with an org organization.
• 29:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're on a we're at a conference, and so we had the day, and then they wanted to go to club, and I'm like, okay, Justin, this is kind of a it wasn't a do or die decision, but it was like, all right, how strong, how how mentally strong in this particular instance am I, or am I not?
• 30:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And after getting asked question after question by member and another member and another member of the organization saying, just have one, just have one.
• 30:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I I I would just get sparkling water or club soda by itself.
• 30:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I was holding something, but it wasn't.
• 30:52
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It wasn't alcohol, and it would have been very easy to I'm at the same bar that people are getting served shots and drinks and mixed drinks and all that, and so that proves something to me internally, that I could put put myself or be in a position in a situation where again I could have just been like, yeah, like what's one what's one night of you know drinking or what's one drink?
• 31:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But again, like I said, I can't do that.
• 31:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I couldn't do that.
• 31:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, I the binge drinking probably at some point, if you would have looked it up in the dictionary, would probably would have had a picture of me on it.
• 32:06
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you'd look up binge drinking, you would see Justin and Alnace.
• 32:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Cause I couldn't stop once I started until I was just in a not a great great place.
• 32:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so those are some of the the times where I think, how did I make it?
• 32:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How did I make it past those times?
• 32:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How how did I?
• 32:43
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: How did I get through them?
• 32:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And all I can think of is there's somebody at a higher power than me that is thinking and saying, Well, I have more work for Justin to do on earth.
• 33:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It's gotta be the only reason, like the otherwise, again, people and people pass away every single minute of every single day across the world.
• 33:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So, why am I still here?
• 33:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so I'll say this.
• 33:44
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think I'm still here because of voices for voices.
• 33:49
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I think I'm still here because there's still another one person that can be helped, that can feel not alone, where the stigma is decreased, where an individual can be an upstander, not a bystander, can dream again, believe that you can do something you've always wanted to do.
• 34:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If music is one of your things, go to a local music shop and play.
• 34:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Practice on the drums, practice on a guitar, practice on their bass, whatever instrument.
• 34:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Right?
• 34:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You wanna you wanna before you buy it, if music is that that outlet for you.
• 35:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I know for myself music is a place I turn to, whether it's the lyrics of the song, or more important, for me, for younger people, it would be the lyrics as well, because there would be certain you know, lyrics we would not want like a four-year-old, five-year-old to be learning and then start reciting.
• 35:38
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But for me, I prefer not to have lyrics that are you know talking about things or places where I've been and where I've been thought-wise.
• 36:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe it's something else, maybe it's dance, maybe it's ballet, maybe it's tap, maybe it's drama club, um, maybe it's being a veterinarian.
• 36:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've always wanted to be a vet.
• 36:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Maybe I can be that inspiration.
• 36:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Says, well just do start doing some research.
• 36:32
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Just do a little bit of research and then see how you feel.
• 36:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If you do that and you still have that interest, then do a little bit more.
• 36:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If it comes time that you want to apply, apply.
• 37:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Apply to go to school to get get your diploma, get your degree.
• 37:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Where there's a will, there's a way.
• 37:20
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I'm living proof.
• 37:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've had the studio taken away from me.
• 37:28
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I've had people badmouth or organization and myself uh on top of uh a whole other heap of insults and and those types of things.
• 37:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Does it bother me?
• 37:48
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Yeah, it kind of does, right?
• 37:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I mean, um I have emotions.
• 37:53
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You have emotions.
• 37:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So it it it does.
• 38:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But the key is do you stop?
• 38:09
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: When there's laws in place like the First Amendment protects free speech for United States citizens.
• 38:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And other countries, uh if you're watching and listening, there's probably similar laws in place.
• 38:36
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't know what they are, I don't know which way they uh which way they go.
• 38:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But I just know as a US citizen, I have the threat of free speech.
• 38:51
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: First amendment, right off the bat.
• 38:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Our forefathers that wrote the Constitution.
• 39:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So when people say, Oh no, you gotta take your videos down because we don't like them, and okay, I say turn to channel, put something else on.
• 39:14
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's what I do.
• 39:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: If I'm listening to music and the song's not on that I like or that I want to listen to at that very moment, guess what?
• 39:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I put a different song on.
• 39:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Same thing if I'm watching a concert on TV, and I don't like a song, I don't like an artist, I change it.
• 39:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So nobody's gonna take that that right away from us.
• 39:50
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And I hope I'm an inspiration of continuing on.
• 40:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Doesn't like I said, it doesn't mean I'm perfect.
• 40:05
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: It means that I'm protected by the First Amendment as free speech.
• 40:15
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You don't like what I have to say?
• 40:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's okay.
• 40:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Turn to channel.
• 40:21
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: You don't like what we stand for?
• 40:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Turn to channel.
• 40:30
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That that that's what you do.
• 40:33
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's what I do.
• 40:37
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's what any person would do.
• 40:41
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Except if there's a reason why why somebody or somebody's don't don't want you to have a platform, don't want you to have a show.
• 40:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That must mean that they might be doing something that might not be in line with the law here in the United States.
• 41:17
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Or maybe another country.
• 41:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That doesn't fall on me.
• 41:25
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: There's plenty of other shows out there.
• 41:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They get way more in depth, way more charged up.
• 41:35
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: They're still going.
• 41:42
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Some have 2,000 episodes.
• 41:45
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're coming up on 500, so that's only twenty five percent thereabouts.
• 41:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: But as long as I I don't know, I'll say it again, I'm a believer, so as long as God wants me on this earth, wants me to continue Voices for Voices, that's what we're gonna do.
• 42:22
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're a charity.
• 42:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: I don't get paid to do this.
• 42:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: People that get upset, they get paid to do what they do.
• 42:34
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So I've gone almost five hundred episodes without earning a real paycheck.
• 42:46
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's called dedication, that's called purpose, persistence.
• 42:58
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: That's what it's called.
• 43:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So thank you for joining us on this episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 43:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Again, if you can give us a big thumbs up, like, follow, subscribe, share, repost, be greatly appreciated.
• 43:15
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• 43:18
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, we're era, we're everywhere.
• 43:23
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Uh, if you're able to reach out to 25, 50, 100 year contacts in your phone, let them know about the voices for voices uh organization, uh, which is founded on, which I founded.
• 43:39
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So um that's also the case that we don't have leadership coming and going every year.
• 43:47
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Um, I founded it on my mental health, my mental challenges, uh, trauma recovery.
• 43:55
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And so that that's what voices for voices stands for and was built on.
• 44:01
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if you know somebody or somebody's 25, 50, 100 contacts on your phone, just let them know about the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast.
• 44:13
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we are a charity.
• 44:15
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• 44:29
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: So if you're able to uh donate any amount, you can reach out to us at lovavoices.org.
• 44:40
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• 44:46
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• 44:57
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Thank you for tuning in.
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  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We're sending love and support your way.
• 45:02
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And thank you for sending love and support our way.
• 45:07
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We hope you have a great day.
• 45:11
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: And we hope to see you again on another episode of the Voices for Voices TV show and podcast brought to you by Voices for Voices Audio.
• 45:24
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: We'll talk to you and see you soon.
• 45:26
  Justin Alan Hayes, Voices for Voices: Bye bye for now.