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- 0:00But the questions that come up for us are the ones that create the biggest pivot points.
- 0:04My question was simply was I born for this?
- 0:06It's how most most 1st generation entrepreneurs who start their own businesses, that question
- 0:11of some form came into the world, and that shifted everything.
- 0:153, 2, 4, 0, technician.
- 0:20Lift off.
- 0:22Ending small business failure.
- 0:25Welcome the small biz chat podcast with the number one small business expert, Melinda
- 0:30Emerson.
- 0:31Melinda's goal is to end small business failure, and she'll give you the you need to
- 0:36succeed and live the life you dream of.
- 0:39Now here's the small biz lady herself.
- 0:43Melinda Emerson.
- 0:46Hi, everyone.
- 0:47I'm Melinda Emerson, the small business lady, and I'm coming to you from Philadelphia.
- 0:52Mister Garrett White, he is the wake up warrior.
- 0:56Yaron, thank you so much for having joining me today.
- 0:59I'm so grateful to have you with me.
- 1:01So, Gary, tell us you have such a diverse background.
- 1:03Tell us a little bit about how you became the the wake up warrior.
- 1:08Path number 1.
- 1:09Become a PE teacher and get a degree in kickball.
- 1:13That's where it all began.
- 1:14So I was a collegiate football player.
- 1:16Ended up in PE.
- 1:17I was a strength coach.
- 1:18I'm gonna book change my life just like the book that you're offering everyone else.
- 1:22Fix your business, small business owner.
- 1:23Many are gonna pick this book up.
- 1:24It's gonna change the way you see yourself.
- 1:26I'm gonna change the way you see your business.
- 1:28And in that change, you're gonna find yourself years from now looking back and wondering what
- 1:31would happen if I hadn't changed.
- 1:33And the book that changed me was a book by Robert Kiyosaki called Rich Dad Portapp.
- 1:36And a friend gave it to me as a PET driver.
- 1:38I was divorced about a year and a half old son.
- 1:41I made almost no money and could see no possible way of living the paycheck I was doing
- 1:46as a PE teacher.
- 1:47And that led me down a path to banking, which led me down another path to mortgages, which
- 1:51led me to investments, which led me to real estate, led me to losing everything and being
- 1:56in a second marriage that was also heading and trending towards divorce.
- 2:01So I almost ended up as a second time divorce guy.
- 2:03And that was, like, the middle of my entire business experience.
- 2:07And in hell is where wake up order began.
- 2:11Alright.
- 2:12So you and I have something in common.
- 2:14You know, I reinvented my $1,000,000 business as, like, the whole world was crashing around
- 2:19me too.
- 2:19So We have that in common.
- 2:21So what I want to know is you you read this book by Robert Kiyosaki Richdad, board, and
- 2:27many of us have read that amazing I know Robert pretty well.
- 2:30Tell me how this turned things around for you.
- 2:33What what were the, like, your main takeaways that made you think Look.
- 2:37I I know there's something bigger out here for me.
- 2:39Todd, I I had a question.
- 2:41Like, I had, like, out of all of you watching right now at home, Watch with my live stream.
- 2:44You're listeners on demand.
- 2:45Maybe I maybe you're getting this through tweets.
- 2:47I don't know how you're getting it through text, but maybe getting it that way too.
- 2:49Here here's the thing that's crazy about being a small business owners that you and every
- 2:53single day, we have all these stats going through our head.
- 2:55But the questions that come up for us are the ones that create the biggest pivot points.
- 2:59My question was simply was I born for this?
- 3:02It's how most most 1st generation entrepreneurs who start their own businesses, that question
- 3:05of some form came into the world, and that shifted everything.
- 3:10And that started for me as a PE teacher.
- 3:12And then with the implosion of all my businesses in 2008, I had to look over a 100
- 3:16employees.
- 3:17It was my first round for 6 years of business owner.
- 3:19Sitting down and letting go of my mother, letting go of my family, letting go of everyone
- 3:23who worked for me, and then finding myself in this dark, dark pit, I was left with that same
- 3:27question again.
- 3:292008, is this really what I was born to do?
- 3:32Like, how the hell did I end up here?
- 3:34I went from nothing built massive and ended up with nothing again.
- 3:39So questions are what drives us.
- 3:41Questions are what drive you.
- 3:42Unfortunately, we just tend to ask the wrong questions And so we end up getting the right
- 3:46answers to the wrong questions which keep us stuck.
- 3:49So I know that, you know, we talked earlier a little bit about how sometimes men can perceive
- 3:55their worth from what's in their pocket.
- 3:58Right?
- 3:58And entrepreneurs do the same thing.
- 4:00We take our worth from what what our gross revenue is.
- 4:04Right?
- 4:04And so we sometimes get focused on the wrong thing.
- 4:07You know, I've read something the other day that somebody said happiness is the new wealth.
- 4:12Most people are not happy.
- 4:14Most people are not happy.
- 4:15Whether they're wealthy or broke, most people are not happy.
- 4:19So what how do we make that connection for people?
- 4:21Cause entrepreneurship is about freedom.
- 4:23It's about living your dream life.
- 4:25So how can we help business owners, you know, pull themselves up after a major setback.
- 4:31How do we do that?
- 4:32So here here's a chance.
- 4:33Right?
- 4:34Like, the challenge, not just being a guy, but the challenge is just being a small business
- 4:38owner in general.
- 4:39Like, across the board, I don't give a shit, like, what business you're in or how you
- 4:42operate.
- 4:42Like, here's the reality of where you're at.
- 4:44Which is this.
- 4:45You are driving after the wrong end of the stick too often.
- 4:50You're spending all your time inside the fulfillment side of your game, but we're
- 4:53saying, well, I'm my 8 I'm not an ATM machine.
- 4:55I'm not my worth is not linked up to my money, but in the game of business, profit is at the
- 4:59end of the day, the indicator of whether you're winning or losing.
- 5:03So if you're not profitable, most of the time, we're not focusing on the front end.
- 5:07You don't have leads.
- 5:08That is a desperate dark day as a business owner.
- 5:10You run out of sales, You don't have leads and you don't have sales.
- 5:14I don't care what industry you're in.
- 5:15I don't care what product you're selling.
- 5:17I don't care what service you're offering.
- 5:18I don't care what color the skin you have.
- 5:20I don't care what growth you had as a kid, whether you were in personal development or
- 5:24not.
- 5:24If you don't have leads, your business dies.
- 5:26If you don't have sales, your business dies.
- 5:29And if you cannot get yourself up and stand power every day as a business owner to get
- 5:34leads and to make sales, then it doesn't matter.
- 5:37You're gonna beg for scraps at the end of the line, and then you're gonna link your worth up
- 5:42to the misery of your destruction inside of your lack of profitability.
- 5:46Than you would being profitable, but that is a skill set game even more so at times than it is
- 5:50a mindset game.
- 5:52You you're preaching.
- 5:53I mean, I just wanna let you go.
- 5:56And do your thing.
- 5:57So your current business is really fascinating.
- 6:00Tell us a little bit about what you do.
- 6:02So I I built a I built a business consulting firm a number of years called Wake of Warrior.
- 6:06And we have over 12,000 clients in 27 countries.
- 6:09All men.
- 6:11All sparked by this book right here in the principal on the cover, which is Bea the man.
- 6:15Stop lying, start leading today.
- 6:17And this was a problem.
- 6:19I sat there in my dark hole, and my wife asked me in 2000 89, She's sitting there, New Year's
- 6:25Eve heading into New Year's day.
- 6:26My businesses are imploding all around me.
- 6:29We've been married for 7 years.
- 6:30I've been ignoring her the entire time thinking that the answer is just make more money.
- 6:34Somehow that would translate into more sex and connection and marriage that'll make more
- 6:38purpose and make my life make sense.
- 6:40It'll help this make more money.
- 6:41It was just hustle hustle hustle.
- 6:43But it was gone.
- 6:44And my wife looks at me and you literally use those 3 phrases.
- 6:47That was 3 words.
- 6:48Be the man.
- 6:50Why can't you just be the man?
- 6:52I didn't sign up for this.
- 6:53Fix it, but I didn't understand who that was.
- 6:56I didn't know how to be the man.
- 6:58I didn't even know how to be a businessman anymore.
- 7:00So I started creating this concept in my mind, which was what if I gamified my life?
- 7:05No different than the way you would have KPIs inside of a business.
- 7:08I have KPIs inside of my marketing and my sales and my accounting and my fulfillment and my
- 7:13client retention.
- 7:14All of my money side there's tracking.
- 7:17But there was no tracking for the rest of my life.
- 7:19I didn't know if I was winning in marriage, which most people would not admit it.
- 7:22You guys shared it earlier.
- 7:23You could leave the home at war with your partner.
- 7:26And then you try to go to business and be all in power.
- 7:30It's not happening.
- 7:31If I'm walking out the door with my wife saying I hate you, That has an impact on my psychology
- 7:36all morning.
- 7:37If I leave the house with a kiss and I love you, and we made love last night, and we're
- 7:41connected as a partner Well, then I go to work that day and I go to hustle and instead of the
- 7:46hate you, it's bad.
- 7:48Go get them.
- 7:49Go make it happen.
- 7:50So there's this piece inside of shifting I had to figure out of myself.
- 7:55And I started to see as I would go in and work with other business owners, particularly men,
- 7:59They were talking to me about economic and business problems, but the truth was they
- 8:02didn't have business problems.
- 8:04It was a lack of power inside of who they were.
- 8:06I'd be sitting across in front of this guy runs a $1,000,000,000 steel company.
- 8:10The guy's a £120 overweight.
- 8:12He's got his 9th cup of coffee.
- 8:14He's on his 3rd marriage now ending in divorce, and he's got a cocaine problem.
- 8:19And he's sitting here telling me that he has a management problem.
- 8:21I was like, bro, you guys are not 40% down right now.
- 8:24Because of your management problem.
- 8:26The management problem we're dealing with is the fact that 80% of your power is leaked out
- 8:30every single day in all these other issues.
- 8:33And I saw this year after year after year, and it was the same thing I've gone through.
- 8:37My personal power was declining and my profitability was followed.
- 8:43As I declined, my money followed.
- 8:45When I started to decline personally, my money followed also.
- 8:49So Wakeupori was built as a comprehensive consulting firm to guide particularly men,
- 8:54which is who we service up until this fall of 2018, for the 1st 7 years, We just coach and
- 8:59lead men to help recapture all the power in the rest of their life so they can link that up to
- 9:04being more profitable inside of the business life.
- 9:06That is amazing.
- 9:07And you really, really hit on a lot of amazing key things, but I wanna know, like, you know,
- 9:15your business that you have now, how did you promote it?
- 9:17Like, how did you build it?
- 9:18I know you you do a lot of stuff online, a lot of online training, all that stuff.
- 9:21Tell us a little bit about sort of, like, how the operational side of your of your company
- 9:26works.
- 9:27So two things.
- 9:28When when first as a as a as a small business owner, you have to begin to see yourself, not
- 9:32as a fulfiller of a products or service.
- 9:34Like, you gotta shift your mindset and it's saying, I am a marketer.
- 9:38Like, I am a marketer.
- 9:39People don't wanna look.
- 9:39It's almost small business owner.
- 9:41Well, I don't I don't really care how good of a small business owner you are if you're not a
- 9:44marketer because if you're not a marketer, that means you don't care every day waking up to go
- 9:48get leads, which means you don't care about bringing fresh water back to your business.
- 9:52So I started down this path of really saying, okay.
- 9:54I have to master marketing.
- 9:56No one's gonna give me leads.
- 9:57I can't go to a local BNI event.
- 9:59Hope and beg and plead and borrow that people are gonna give me business.
- 10:02This meant I also needed to learn how to advertise advertising and marketing psychology
- 10:08became the primary focus of what I studied.
- 10:10The second piece is I needed a tool to support me in that, which is click phones.
- 10:14Click phones is a software tool that I began to use to build strategic seduction from
- 10:19prospects, from lead to qualified prospect.
- 10:23You take me, don't care.
- 10:24Drop me in front of a 1000 small businesses, and I will tell you every single time, the
- 10:27biggest issue they face is they don't have enough leads and they don't have enough
- 10:30liquidity leads that they need.
- 10:32You solve your marketing problems.
- 10:34You're you're now qualified to handle the rest of your problems.
- 10:37You want to have an accounting problem with Don, but you're never gonna have an accounting
- 10:40problem with Don if you can't get leads.
- 10:45I believe you preaching here.
- 10:46Now tell me this because we gotta get to our speed round.
- 10:49What is the best piece of advice you can give business owners right now today?
- 10:53Stop lying.
- 10:55Stop lying to yourself.
- 10:56Stop lying about where you are.
- 10:57Stop lying to everybody about how good you're doing when you're not.
- 11:01Stop lying.
- 11:02Tell the truth to yourself.
- 11:03Look yourself in the mirror.
- 11:04Put your good boy, big boy pants, big girl panties on.
- 11:07Look yourself in the mirror and stop lying.
- 11:09Stop lying about your numbers.
- 11:10Stop lying about where you wanna go.
- 11:12Stop lying about the visions you have.
- 11:13Stop lying about how scared you are.
- 11:15Stop like just start telling the truth.
- 11:18You start from the truth.
- 11:19You have a chance.
- 11:20You keep lying.
- 11:21You keep BS and everybody around you.
- 11:24You keep BS ing yourself.
- 11:25You quit looking at the truth.
- 11:27You have no shot.
- 11:28You're gonna be a desperate small business owner, barely making ends meet for the next
- 11:32decade.
- 11:33And in that, you need to quit and go get a job.
- 11:36Alright, folks.
- 11:37Well, listen.
- 11:38We're about to straight talk express business around here.
- 11:41Like, we we give it to you straight We love you.
- 11:44We we want you to win, but here's the last thing I want you to know.
- 11:47You never lose in business.
- 11:49Either you win or you learn.
- 11:52I'm Melinda Emerson.
- 11:53I'm the small biz lady, and we are over and out.
- 11:55Thank you guys.
- 11:56See you soon.
- 12:00Thank you for listening to the Small Biz Chat podcast with Melinda Emerson.
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