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A.I. EP. 200: The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - “My Precious” · The Avid Indoorsmen

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  Dead and maiden. The sun is shining, not a cloud in the sky.
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  We wouldn't know because we're so happy inside. Some people a boat boot
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  on some skis, But we would rather sit on down and talk some movies.
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  Where the Abbot indoorsmen come listen to our show, Where the Abbot indoorsmen
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  at home or on the go, Where the avid indoors man? We hope.
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  So come on in and stay. I will do our best to make
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  you smile. Were they indoors man? What is happening? I'm Rob lunt
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  Quist my beauts, and we are the a and indoorsmen. Hey about Hey
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  buddy, how are you super duper living the dream up here? How are
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  you? I am good. If I look a little red, it's because
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  I am I by I got sunburnt today. I went golfing with our guest
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  and Chris and Cam from the Home Free crew, and we're out here in
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  Charleston, South Carolina right now. How did it go? The golfing?
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  You know, there were some good things, there were some there were some
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  things. There were some ups and downs. I got about eight feet away
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  from getting a hole in one. Oh damn, that's cool. And I
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  still managed to par it. Yeah, so didn't get a birdie a little
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  bit, but I got to take a picture and be like, whoa this
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  It looked like I knew what I was doing for one hole. But we
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  had a good time. It was a lot of fun. And it is
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  just so gorgeous out here. It is amazing. Yeah, I love it
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  in Charleston. Have you been to Charleston? I don't think so. I
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  think we've talked about this before because I did the gig in columb Yeah,
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  but not right. Yeah, yeah, I would highly recommend. Yeah,
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  meaning to check that out. Are you closer to the water in Charleston.
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  I don't know my jobraphy it's right the water. Yeah, Yeah, that'd
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  be awesome. I mean that sounds fun. Yeah. Man, have you
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  been watching any movies lately? Yeah, so I watched a movie. It
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  was on Apple TV Plus and it's been one I've been meaning to checkout because
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  I heard it's a really fun book, but I haven't read the book.
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  I watched the movie first because that's where the smart money is and it's called
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  the Greatest Beer Run ever? Have we been meaning to what? I have
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  downloaded it and not actually watched it. Okay twice. I'm here to encourage
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  you to watch it. It's pretty fun. Zac Efron is in it.
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  Russell Crowe is like listed very early on the like the the crew list.
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  What am I trying to say, the credit cast list, But he doesn't
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  have a huge part, so I think that must just be a name thing
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  for sure, really primarily a zac Efron vehicle. And it's this really wild,
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  weird, apparently at least partially true story of a dude who goes over
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  to Vietnam and brings beer to like his neighborhood buddies. And it's a it
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  like that sounds like it's going to be a goofy movie, and it is
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  that. But then there's like it's got a little more depth to it than
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  that, which I was not expecting. What was pleasantly surprised by. I
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  really think zac Efron is great, and he's funny and heartfelt and it's just
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  enjoyable. I really had a nice time watching it. It was It was
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  for sure worth a watch. It's maybe like a sliver long, but I
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  don't know. I really had a nice time, So no big complaints.
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  It's not like an Oscar Worthy movie or anything. You know what I mean,
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  but but just a fun, little, fun, little romp. I
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  feel like I watched a pretty in depth trailer. I was like, I
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  might have just seen the whole movie sort of thing, because I did see
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  a trailer afterward somehow, and I felt the same way. I was like,
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  Wow, they really they really brought you the whole way there, didn't
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  they. I was interested in it though, and if you liked it,
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  then I'll definitely check it out. It was fun. I think you'll enjoy
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  it, especially like it seems like a very nice playing movie, So yeah,
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  I think you'll like it for sure. It was cool, it was
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  a nice time and yeah, just but it's directed by Peter Fairley, which
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  is interesting. Wow. Yeah, so you know we got all those things
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  going, but super interesting story. I am intrigued to read the book now,
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  perhaps because it's it's wild and you know, they always cut stuff out,
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  so what did they cut out? Very crazy? But yeah, that's
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  what I've been watching. How about you. That's the most recent movie you'd
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  see. So when I was back home, Charlie was invited to a birthday
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  party and Lydia was not, and she was kind of bummed out. So
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  I was like, hey, there is a super Mario Brothers movie that is
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  oh nice, And so the two of us went and checked it out and
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  it was a very fun film. That's great. It gives all of us
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  who grew up playing the Mario Bros. Games a lot of Easter eggs and
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  let us feel the nostalgia. But it is definitely more tailored for kids.
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  I would say, sure and yeah, but they went and got some really
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  fun actors. Chris Pratt as Mario, which has been kind of controversial,
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  right, Charlie Days, Luigi, Anya Taylor Joys Peaches, Jack Black as
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  Bowser, Keegan Michael Key is Toad, Seth Rogan as Donkey Kong, which
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  I don't know that I was familiar with that beforehand, but they really they
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  play up that it's Seth Rogan, like with his laugh and st It is
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  really cool. But a lot of these people like put on voices different,
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  like they changed their voice, so you're like, while in the movie,
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  I was like, who is that? Yeah, that sounds familiar or whatever.
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  Keagan Michael Key, it sounds like he's got like helium going on as
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  Toad. Yeah, like maybe even distorted, I don't know, but yeah,
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  it was a really really fun film, and um, yeah, it's
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  it's worth checking out for sure, since I'm sure you played a lot of
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  Mario Brothers like I did. Yeah, I definitely want to see it.
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  I haven't yet, but I really am into it. It looks and like
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  just really colorful and fun and definitely don't you know what I mean, just
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  like nice and all that music that we love from from little games and stuff,
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  and they like do different theme they're different variations on those themes. And
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  yeah, totally it was fun. Man, Illumination is producing some really killer
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  animated films, like they're going to give Pixar run for their money. For
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  sure. They are the folks that did like trolls and stuff too. Then
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  I don't know if they did, know, I think that's DreamWorks. Oh
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  yeah they did. I think they did Minions and they Yeah, I don't
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  know what else they've done, but it's been it's been a lot recently.
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  It's been good. Yeah. Yeah, what have you been streaming? I
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  streamed another movie. I think it was HBO Max Maybe I'm not entirely sure,
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  but a movie from back in the day. I think it was oh
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  three, yeah, oh three. Mona Lisa smile. Did you ever see
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  this movie? I did and was kind of bored by it at the time.
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  Did you like it? I did like it, but I can absolutely
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  see being like I remember thinking, oh, I'm glad I didn't watch this
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  in two thousand and three because I probably show thousand and three kept up with
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  that. Yeah, I think I was a little bored with it back then.
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  But yeah, it's like it's so it's a movie about Julia Roberts is
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  a college professor and goes to this very conservative women's college in the Fresdies.
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  So it's kind of like, you know, there's some like feminist stuff obviously
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  and just like trying to get past the times and you know, all these
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  things, right, So I can totally see why that wouldn't have been your
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  thing in oh three, you know what I mean, or as much.
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  But it's also particularly fun to go and watch now because you get to do
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  the thing where because it's an ensemble thing, we get to see all these
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  actors who have been in other stuff since you know, like and they're young,
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  right, So there's just all kinds of people in there. I mean,
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  the big names are like Kirsten Dunst and Julius Stiles and Maggie Gillenhall.
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  That Jennifer is a Guinnifer. Jennifer Goodwin's Jennifer, okay, but I never
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  know. Um. But then there's other folks like the the lead gal in
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  Oh no, I'm screwing up. I think it's the the Cabin in the
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  Woods movie that we talk about so much. You know, Oh, what's
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  her name? Like, Kristen Connelly? Yes, sorry, I should throw
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  to down. I didn't. But she's just like a background character in this,
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  which is funny. Um. But yeah, it's just it's just fun
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  to see people in there hanging out and doing their thing. But yeah,
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  I liked it. I thought it was fun. It's maybe again like a
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  scush, too long and overwrought, but it's still a story worth telling,
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  and it was an enjoyable performance. I liked it. It was fun.
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  So what's the most recent thing you streamed? The most reason thing I streamed?
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  It was also over at HBO Max and we've been doing Succession season three,
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  the final season. Say I'm in on that. I'm in on that?
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  Oh man, So I am not. I have not seen the most
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  recent one, um, but I saw up to episode three and O.
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  Some crazy, crazy drama went down in episode three, and that episode will
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  probably be responsible for some folks winning awards. Good it Better. It was
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  a very gripping episode of television, and manum, I just wish they weren't
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  calling it quits after three seasons. It's just like Ted Lasso, like they're
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  yeah, you can respect them wanting to tell their story and getting out of
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  there. But selfishly I want them to go much much longer because I'm loving
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  it so much. But it's so good, dude. Yeah, yeah,
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  that episode was just like whoa, it was nuts. Whoa, it was
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  so nuts. I'm very I feel like I'm more in on like what how
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  are they gonna wrap this? More than even more than with Ted Lasso.
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  I'm just kind of like I have no idea where they're going to go with
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  that, where this, I'm like, they could go so many different directions
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  and now especially it's yeah, so uh, lots of drama, lots lots
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  of great acting. It's great. It's incredible. Yeah, I love it
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  too. It's been really fun. It's been fun. How many episodes is
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  it? Do you know? I don't I don't know that. Yeah,
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  here, I'll just google it and see what it says. Yeah, how
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  many episodes succession? Like ACE eleven? It says there's gonna be eleven?
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  Are they saying this is the fourth season? It's the fourth season. I
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  don't know. I thought it was the third. So yeah, this is
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  the fourth season and it's gonna be the last. Okay, and yeah,
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  nice eleven episodes not even halfway through yet, so yeah, lots of crazy
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  stuff can still happen. Fun for surely. Great. Yeah, it's really
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  fitting. We're gonna do our top five favorite CGI care from film. Yes,
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  and it should be fun. That was I found some fun ones.
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  I liked him. Yeah, we're a good time time. That will be
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  lovely. But we're here today to discuss the second part of the Lord of
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  the Rings trilogy, the Two Towers, which is going to be super fun
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  and we're super excited. And we had to get a man who loves high
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  you pal? He's going for it? Would actually be shocked. That would
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  be impressive. I would like that. The voice, of course you're hearing
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  is Adam Rupp, who's out here doing all kinds of fun stuff. You
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  guys can check out his my fan park page to get to chat with him
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  and do fun stuff. But it sounds like you're really leaning into curating game
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  experiences for people, now, is that right, buddy? That is correct.
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  I have really honed in on the gaming experience for people to have with
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  their friends, and I will come up with a campaign for them a little
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  usually just a one off campaign, just one time play, but it can
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  always become more than that. And yeah, it's it's going really well and
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  we can do it online or there's a possibility of trying to do like an
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  actual event in person, which is also really fun. So yeah, check
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  out my fan park and you can see more details about trying to do a
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  gaming thing. Yeah, a test, it's super super fun. Yes,
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  it has been one of my players a lot of times. It's full of
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  Yeah, it's full of it's full of adventures, full of fun, creativity
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  and it's just you know, you get to play through a little campaign,
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  level up your character, fight some bad guys, or just fight each other.
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  You know, it's up to you how you want to how you want
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  to do it's so, so, yeah, let's do this. If they
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  contact you and mentioned the indoorsmen, I will work with you to make like
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  some side character. We're all show up. We'll do some sort of a
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  movie tie in and I'll show up or something. Yeah. Yeah, I'm
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  just inviting myself now, Okay, it'll be good time. So there you
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  go. So Bus wants to play it more as what he's saying. So
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  now you know that it's actually a fun play. Yeah, it's fine.
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  Yeah we should get ropped down to play. I bet you'd have a very
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  nice time. I actually have this idea that I think Kickstarter might need to
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  happen where we actually get every home free member to play Dungeons and Dragons or
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  just super fun idea. Yeah, or just like it doesn't have to be
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  Dungeons Dragons, but an OSR game, which is basically old school Renaissance kind
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  of you know, role playing game. I think it'd be really fun to
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  to run a campaign with them and just see, you know, let's let
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  the sewhere it goes, Yeah, it happens, and just see what happens,
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  and to see what kind of story is created. And I know that
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  Adam Chance would be phenomenal at it. He's oh yeah, he's got the
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  brain for it for sure. But it'd be really fun to see the other
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  guys trying to play well. I know Rob would like it, especially if
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  it's heavy on the role plays lay on the street. It'll be fun.
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  I think you would have a really great time, especially if we did it
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  in the right spot where we like everyone felt safe and had permission to be
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  silly. I think we'd ever yea well, thank thankfully because of the movie
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  that just came out. I think it gave people the idea of, oh,
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  like people just kind of play and have fun and just you know,
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  they don't take it too seriously. It's a whole agreed, agreed, Yeah
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  for sure. Well that would be fun. So check that out. That'll
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  be a project coming soon. Check it. But we're here today to talk
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  about a super great movie, the second edition in the iteration, I guess
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  in The Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers and Rob, I think
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  you should get us started with just a rough SYNOPSI, okay, it's short
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  and sweet. Here we go. Oh. Frodo and Sam are tracking to
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  Mordor to destroy the One Ring of Power, while Gimli, Legolis and Aragorn
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  search for the Orc captured Mary and Pippen, all along nefarious wizard Sauman awaits
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  the Fellowship members in eisingard. Oh that is short and sweet, very nice?
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  Did you? I thought yourself. I did not. No no,
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  no, no, no no no. The old Google machine dare. Let's
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  go to Rotten Tomatoes and hear what they have to say. Critics have this
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  coming in at a rock solid ninety five percent. Gang, I noticed that
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  this is the highest rated from the critics. Wild to me, I mean,
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  it's great. We'll talk more about it. Audience members have it exactly
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  the same ninety five as well. So everyone likes this movie, it seems.
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  Let's hear what we think though, and let's go right into our hot
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  tage. Oh spicy, that's a hot take. I'll go first. I
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  everyone knows I love these movies, and this one is no different. This
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  one is kind of special in my heart because there was and I don't know
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  if you ever played this Adam. But there was a PlayStation two game called
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  The Two Towers Uh that actually kind of took you through like from the moment
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  the Fellowship was made all the way to the after Helm's Deep Battle, and
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  it was awesome and it was really fun. I used to love it a
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  lot, and I played through that just a ton of times and it was
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  really great. It was kind of a it was like a you built a
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  character sort of, but it was more of just like a hack and slash
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  kind of game. But it was really fun. And I went and watched
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  some you know, they have gameplay videos of every game that's ever existed now,
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  so I wouldn't watch that, and it was just nostalgia to the max.
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  It was really fun. But so this one is extra special to me.
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  I think this one we kind of in this movie we see a little
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  bit more of like the pain that's in the world, and the world expands
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  around us as we see things kind of delve deeper into anguish and shadow.
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  Yeah, and I just I love it. I think it's great. The
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  Ants are like some of my favorite mystery crazy beings in all of fans,
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  super super cool and super fun. I remember being so excited to see them
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  on screen and just like delighted that they were so fun. I never knew
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  that, uh that uh what's his name or Rhese Davies. Uh. I
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  didn't know he was the voice of tree Beard recently and I was like,
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  WHOA, that's cool. I guess I just never realized that or paid attention.
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  And I don't know. It sounds like he's doing a lot of like
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  breathing in while he's talking, which inward sinning yeah, I think as a
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  yeah. As a quick side note, the Ents and the Entwives is one
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  of the like most heart wrenching unfinished stories of the Token Universe, and I
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  really wish we had more, but I also kind of love that we don't.
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  I just think it's really incredible and he just kind of never touched on
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  it again from what I understand, which is super interesting. But anyway,
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  all of that to say, I think this is a technical masterpiece, like
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  the way that they used CGI in the way they did not only for a
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  Gollum but also for the crazy battle scenes and everything. They all they're starting
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  to, you know, look their age a tiny bit, but they still
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  look great. And back at the time, I was just incredibly enthralled by
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  all of it. I thought they did an amazing job and the scope of
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  it is just wild to me. It's truly incredible that they made this movie
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  where at points it's a very like character driven like it's Sam and Frodo,
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  you're right in their face. It's dirty, it's gritty, and then it's
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  also this huge set piece of a battle, right, and they pulled both
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  of them off super super well. So I love this a lot. My
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  hottest take, though, there is a scene. It's when the the they
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  get attacked, the people of Rohan get attacked, and there's like the scout
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  and all that, and then they have to fight and then you know,
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  Ericorn goes over the side of the cliff and all that stuff. There's been
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  one part of that scene that has never made sense to me, and it's
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  Lego Less jumps up on the horse with Gimli, and the way they chose
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  to do that was like the horse was coming this way, and he grabs
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  it, yes, and it looks like he's just gonna go on top as
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  the momentum takes him, but he swings around underneath in just the weirdest way
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  possible. It's the most fakey looking thing that they have in all of the
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  films where I've thought that since the first time I saw it, I was
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  like, why would he go that way? It doesn't make any sense.
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  Actually, on this last rewatch i rewound it, I was like, did
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  I not see that right? And like watch like three times right, Yes,
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  it looks like a mistake or they reverse or something, which is not
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  the case. You want to know, why is it just because he's super
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  light? Is that the idea? It's CGI? I mean love, it's
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  not. It's not actually a person or an actor doing the movement that is
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  like actually computer generated all of that. I mean I assumed that as well.
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  Don't get why they had him swing that way? That was such a
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  weird It's it's like, you know, hey, we're doing CGI. Now
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  look what we can do. Let's you know, toot our own. I
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  guess just let's let's we don't want to just like go up on the horse.
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  Let's show what we can do flourished of CGI. And then it really
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  kind of weird and the grand scheme. Does that matter? Absolutely not.
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  I love this movie. It's a very thing, but it just every time
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  I'm always just like, what a weird choice. Yea, I have never
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  noticed it, but I definitely noticed it on this last watch because everything looks
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  so amazing that right, right, because generally everything is like was intended to
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  just be filmed as as real as possible, and so the CGI that they
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  did do was very very methodical and very very carefully put together and done.
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  And then this is like it's almost like this was almost like a fix in
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  the moment kind of a CGI that they had to do. They didn't know
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  how to get them on the horse, so they're like, uh, what
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  do we do here? And then like, well, I guess we'll have
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  to CGI it later. It's one of those classics. I wouldn't worry about
• 24:41
  it. Yeah. Yeah, it's the one thing that they're just like,
• 24:44
  we don't have a solution for this, so we'll have the just and the
• 24:48
  thing we always joke about in videos, but we're like, we'll just do
• 24:51
  it in post. We'll just figure it. That's a really nitpicky thing,
• 25:00
  ring up therapy. But that is the worst thing about it doesn't even it
• 25:04
  doesn't even bother me that much, but I've noticed it every time, so
• 25:07
  I mean it it's such a silly thing. Clearly it's bothered you so well.
• 25:12
  I mean I've wrote a few letters about it, sure, but you
• 25:15
  know, nothing nothing too terrible. Um, but yeah, overall, uh,
• 25:21
  this has some of my favorite stuff in all of the Lord of the
• 25:23
  Rings in it and I love it. Hot take, buddy, very very
• 25:26
  hot take. Um. I saw that this is number thirteen on IMDb's Top
• 25:32
  two fifty. Okay, just a slower is nine nine, so just a
• 25:37
  scot slower. It won two Oscars for Best Sound Editing and Best Visual Effects.
• 25:42
  Um. And I remember when I saw this as just blown away like
• 25:45
  the previous one as well, and I remember the Battle of Helmsey being just
• 25:49
  so incredible, an epic epic. Yeah, but on this one, and
• 25:56
  maybe it's because I spent four hours watching the first one, this one felt
• 26:00
  a little like more work for me. These extended versions are very long,
• 26:07
  but it's still amazing visuals and story. It just felt a little longer than
• 26:12
  Fellowship for me. Those epic battle scenes, I know, we'll talk about
• 26:18
  those at length. The music again is so incredible, and yeah, I'll
• 26:22
  just I like this movie a lot. It's very very good. It's a
• 26:26
  masterpiece. Peter Jackson is a genius, but I'll let the Lord of the
• 26:30
  Rings fanatics dive a little deeper for their takes. I think love it,
• 26:34
  Yeah, I love it. Yeah, what do you got? There's so
• 26:40
  much things that I could say. I don't have a hot take. I
• 26:42
  mean, because you know abuse, you always come up with a hot take
• 26:45
  and it's like, okay, well he said that, he said that,
• 26:48
  So now what do I have to say? What else do I have to
• 26:49
  say? Now? So I like to just interject as thoughts come to mind.
• 26:53
  Yeah, totally. So my hot take will be constantly just like sizzlin
• 27:00
  in the background here, a little there, and a little like smell that
• 27:04
  whiff of the fragrance. So that's cooking in the in the back of the
• 27:08
  stove, and like bam, now it's now, it's part of this picture.
• 27:12
  Let's like it. Yeah, I think you were going to say before
• 27:18
  we started where you watch Oh yeah, well I can talk about personal experiences
• 27:22
  for sure. Yeah. When this came out, right after it, I
• 27:27
  had a trip to Norway and Sweden with the Gostavus Wind Orchestra and it was
• 27:33
  a three weeks that we were over there and toured um seventy some piece Orchestra
• 27:42
  and it was Yeah, it was called. It was amazing. Never forget
• 27:45
  the trip, especially because the first show we did, we had four people
• 27:48
  show up to watch us. Been there, brother, definitely been there.
• 27:56
  I was one of the four for at least one a round show. Abuse.
• 28:00
  You don't know this, but like during intermission of that concert, our
• 28:06
  director told us all to go out and talk to the four people that came.
• 28:08
  So there's just like four people in the pews and there's like twenty college
• 28:15
  kids surrounding each of them. Anyway, we would spend time on the bus
• 28:22
  just you know, doing Schmigel's voice because everybody was so obsessed with it and
• 28:27
  the fact that we were in the land where the inspiration for the story came
• 28:34
  from. It was really really cool because you would look out the window and
• 28:38
  you would see Norway in January and it's stunning in a beautiful and inspirational and
• 28:49
  captivating and enchanting. So all of these like feelings are going through us as
• 28:56
  we're kind of just in this land and we can't help but think of all
• 29:00
  the references, uh that Tolkien took from the culture and the the mythos of
• 29:07
  Scandinavia. So it was really really cool just to see that. Um,
• 29:11
  that's just the first thing that I was I say, cool, I love
• 29:15
  it. I love it. Nice. Well, why don't we start talking
• 29:19
  about some of these acting performances. Such a huge cast, such great performances.
• 29:25
  Why don't we pick our dude. I'm the dude, So that's what
• 29:29
  you call me, you know that? Or his dudeness or duder or you
• 29:34
  know, el dudino. If you're not into the whole brevity thing, Adam,
• 29:38
  go first on this one, buddy, Andy Serkis, I love it.
• 29:42
  I love it. How come I done done? Next question? I
• 29:48
  mean, how come it's it's and I just think it's so obvious. He's
• 29:52
  the to me, he is like the Michael Jordan of this movie. I
• 29:57
  mean he the entire movie, I think ultimately. I mean, yes,
• 30:03
  it has its other stories going on, but like the recurring like the thing
• 30:08
  that's moving the plot forward is the ring moving closer to Mortar, right,
• 30:14
  and Gollum's story is the center focus of like this whole thing. In my
• 30:18
  opinion, Yeah and so, and Andy Serkis is so unbelievably incredible as his
• 30:27
  delivery of Gollum that it's just fascinating to to not only just appreciate what he
• 30:37
  has done with the character and what he brought to life in a way because
• 30:41
  like nobody just no one had any idea and then what he did to this
• 30:45
  character and is like was so inspirational for everyone else working on the film,
• 30:51
  because I think it's like his performance like got them to use him. Yeah,
• 30:57
  you know what I mean that it was just going to be Yeah,
• 31:03
  he was just going to record the voice right exactly, and then they were
• 31:06
  like, uh, can you stay, Yeah, let a mo cap and
• 31:10
  all that too, ye, and we'll copy all of your of your face
• 31:15
  and everything to create the character when we make it cgi and so like it.
• 31:18
  It worked so so well. And yeah, I just think I don't
• 31:23
  think you can't I mean, not to stay, not to take anything away
• 31:26
  from any other actor because free. Yeah, and here's the other point that
• 31:30
  I'm just gonna make it right now, every actor in this movie, you
• 31:34
  couldn't have casted someone more perfect to play the roles that they did. In
• 31:41
  my opinion, I don't think there's any better casting for anyone in this and
• 31:45
  everyone nails the performance of what they needed to be doing for this whole thing.
• 31:51
  So yeah, I love that up. Yeah, well on that point,
• 31:56
  I'll say another amazing actor. I will say Ego Mortensen as Ericorn.
• 32:01
  Yeah, he had a lot to do in this film. We'd think he's
• 32:06
  died after he gets thrown over a cliff with an orc. He comes back
• 32:09
  to Helm's Deep and he joins the troops to fight against crazy odds. We
• 32:15
  think he's probably going to sacrifice himself. The whole time. He's dealing with
• 32:20
  is it Eowin? Is that how you say your name? Wanting him?
• 32:24
  But his heart is with Arwin Um and it's you know, he's got to
• 32:29
  deal with a lot of stuff. I thought he did a great job.
• 32:31
  Yeah, he's he gets to be very like reluctant leader, but more towards
• 32:37
  the leaders side of that. You know, he's starting to kind of accept
• 32:40
  his role, which is cool. Yeah, there's even scenes that they added
• 32:44
  in to the movie, like, for example, when when Ericorn is seeing
• 32:50
  Gandalf off, Gandolf tells him the defenses have to hold. Yeah, right,
• 32:57
  and and that was like or is either a reshot or that was like
• 33:00
  added in And it's because Peter Jackson thought, oh, there needs to be
• 33:05
  more of a reason for him to to be here. Yeah, something like
• 33:08
  that. Yeah, yeah, I can't remember exactly the high that came to
• 33:10
  be, but it was something like that. Yeah, And they did a
• 33:14
  bunch of stuff because that like clip scene is not in the in the book.
• 33:16
  Yeah, yeah, you know, so like but they wanted to show
• 33:21
  that he had this like almost like predestined light of his love that's kind of
• 33:27
  protecting him and watching over him, which I think worked. I think it
• 33:30
  was great. But yeah, and also to support Rob's for is like it
• 33:35
  when Ericorn sorry when Um names Vigo when he hits his toe against the helmet,
• 33:45
  right, that did used it for his character in his performance, Like
• 33:51
  that was fun. That made that makes that scene so much better knowing that
• 33:55
  that pain was so real at that moment, it very real. So great,
• 34:01
  well, say the trivia now, yeah, so the so the scene
• 34:07
  where they're at like the pile of orcs and they think the Hobbits are gone.
• 34:10
  Um, he kicks the helmet and he lets out that like ah,
• 34:15
  apparently really he broke two I think total off his foot when he kicked that,
• 34:21
  but just kept acting through. And I guess Peter Jackson didn't know until
• 34:24
  later and he was like, oh my god, is he okay? But
• 34:28
  he was like, wow, he really committed hard and he was like,
• 34:30
  well he actually broke and to bounce off of that trivia. A lot of
• 34:37
  people got injured in the field y of this movie. Yeah, total a
• 34:40
  lot of very physical stuff man, Yeah, super super physical. Yeah like
• 34:45
  the yeah, there's I have more about that somewhere later. I don't remember
• 34:50
  it off the top, but yeah, yeah, totally love that. I
• 34:52
  think both those are great picks. I am gonna go with mister Rupp and
• 34:57
  I'm gonna pick Andy Serkis. Uh. I think Vigo does great and honestly
• 35:02
  I might be holding out on him for a later movie. We'll see.
• 35:05
  I don't know. But yes, I Andy Serkis was incredible in this.
• 35:09
  I mean he oh, I agree, by the way, I definitely,
• 35:14
  I don't. I don't think he didn't at all. That someone is going
• 35:17
  to take him so totally totally. But yeah, he's all the things you
• 35:22
  said, Adam. He's amazing. He's perfect in that. I love also
• 35:28
  just like the I'm a sucker for that like story, like the plot device
• 35:34
  that he represents as well between him and he is, so him being able
• 35:39
  to come back from this is Frodo's hope that he isn't gonna die because of
• 35:44
  this ring and this mission he's accepted, right, Like, so every time
• 35:49
  Frodo's like, I have to believe that he can come back, is because
• 35:52
  he's saying it to himself, right, He's like, I have to believe
• 35:55
  I can come back. And I just think they do that so masterfully through
• 36:00
  this and those scenes where Gallum and Sniegel are talking to each other are frigging
• 36:07
  incredible as far as acting goes. Like the n once that he can add
• 36:13
  to that is amazing. I think it's just incredible. And you know which
• 36:15
  one is. I know he kind of switches up his voice, but it's
• 36:19
  just when you look at his face, he's like him. It looks like
• 36:21
  different clearly, right. Yeah. And so what's even crazier about that is
• 36:24
  that that's one scene, like it was it cuts like Peter Jackson did the
• 36:30
  sharp cuts between him to make us more disturbed that it's like to that that
• 36:36
  that's going on, But that's him doing that one scene. Yeah, just
• 36:40
  incredible. It's so incredible. He's wild, man, it's crazy. But
• 36:45
  yeah, so I'm gonna pick him just because why not? Why not?
• 36:50
  Why not? Yeah? Yeah, I love it. Let's talk about some
• 36:52
  of these other folks though, Let's there's a lot of other people. Let's
• 36:54
  name a tweelergy. What do you got for this one, Adam, Well,
• 37:02
  um, I I this was a really hard one. I chose three,
• 37:07
  but I'll take one that I'm gonna guess is not the one that you're
• 37:10
  gonna take because I figured someone it's going to take the other one, and
• 37:15
  if it if it's not named, then we have to talk about it.
• 37:17
  But everybody, I gave it. I gave it to Miranda Otto. I
• 37:23
  love it away right, Yes, yes, I thought really hard about who
• 37:30
  I felt really acted their role that was like just a step above the call,
• 37:38
  if you will, And the what she portrays in her character and everything
• 37:46
  that she she executes is so just like just one little notch above. I
• 37:53
  just think that stood out to me. Yeah. Yeah, So even like
• 37:59
  like when she's when she's singing the funeral, um, I don't know what
• 38:04
  you call it him a dirt or I don't know, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 38:07
  like I I even when she's doing that and watching her face and watching
• 38:13
  the emotion that she puts into that and how she delivers that was really striking
• 38:17
  to me. Yeah, I get getting to see her whole character arc throughout.
• 38:22
  Yeah, it goes into the next movie too, you know obviously,
• 38:25
  but like, yeah, but she's got a lot of things on her mind
• 38:30
  and that she's dealing with and how she's acting with others, and it's just
• 38:32
  yeah, I fing loved it. I thought it was incredible. That's a
• 38:37
  great pick. I loved her performance too, great, She's great. Um.
• 38:39
  I felt like there were a lot of like pairs in this film in
• 38:44
  particular. Um, and so my tooch is going to be two people and
• 38:50
  I'm gonna say Lego less and Gimli and I just enjoy Yeah, Like so
• 38:53
  many of my quotes, my favorite things that were said were just goofy things
• 38:58
  that those two were like a ring about. Um, I just they I
• 39:02
  had the most fun with those two in this Maybe it's not the most impressive
• 39:07
  acting, but I had the most fun with those two characters in this film.
• 39:09
  No, it almost becomes like a Buddy Cup movie for them at points,
• 39:14
  right, like just little sniffs and sniffs of that, and they they
• 39:19
  go on adventures after this whole tale ends together and I would still love to
• 39:23
  see some of those sometimes. Yeah, I don't think he ever wrote a
• 39:30
  lot more about them other than where they went and stuff, but they like
• 39:34
  outline stuff. They go explore Fangorn for us because you know, like Less
• 39:38
  is super into that because he's from the Woodland elve people. And then they
• 39:42
  go explore the minds. Um. There's a bunch of minds in Helm's Deep
• 39:47
  or that area um that go like super deep and Gimley super into them.
• 39:52
  So they they like explore with each other and fast. Oh do they probably?
• 39:58
  I mean I feel like that's a little intimate. Maybe. Well it's
• 40:02
  what's so incredible too. And spoiler alert, uh spoiler. Gimli is one
• 40:09
  of the only dwarves I think at the end of his lifetime or whatever,
• 40:13
  when or when the when Legolists and the elves are all finally leaving Middle Earth,
• 40:19
  like he's allowed to come with them to the Undying Lands, which was
• 40:22
  which is incredible, you know. Yeah, yeah, I think he's the
• 40:25
  only Dwarf that's ever Yeah, yeah, I think you're right. Which is
• 40:31
  fun. It's it's something, it's it's also just so it's a hard thing
• 40:36
  to think about because you know, this is like long after Airgorn finally dies
• 40:39
  and you know, yeah, the realm has changed. And you know,
• 40:45
  but even like humans they say in that like they all eventually join a Luvatar
• 40:50
  after the Earth completely ceases to exist. We don't have to go there.
• 40:57
  That will take way too long, way take way to I don't even go
• 41:00
  there, you guys, I'm not gonna go there. That's a great pick
• 41:06
  a ton um. So this is fun because two of mine have been picked
• 41:09
  or three, I guess, which is great. So I get to go
• 41:12
  on and talk about Bernard Hill, who is just and a half in this
• 41:16
  movie. I love him so much, theet and king Um. I think
• 41:22
  he gets to even flex a little more in the next movie again in a
• 41:25
  little bit he gets to do. But he's just awesome and it's so fun
• 41:30
  to see him go from that like shrouded character to like kind of reclaiming.
• 41:35
  But also he's old and a little like beat down, and but it's still
• 41:39
  such a king, you know, like his very essence is very kingly,
• 41:44
  which I love. Um, So yeah, I'll take I'll take him for
• 41:46
  one. And then rub did you have some? I mean I just feel
• 41:53
  like you could name every every single actor, But like, I'm also assuming
• 41:58
  that when you guys did the fellow Ship that someone chose Ian McKellen. Yeah,
• 42:04
  act I figured as much, but like it just he seems to be
• 42:09
  someone who has to have honorable mention in every totally one of these, you
• 42:15
  know, because there's such ensemble films such an I would I also wanted to
• 42:22
  give a shout out to David. It's when him I would assume his faremere.
• 42:28
  Yeah. I thought about his character and what he was able to portray
• 42:35
  in all the different arcs that he has going through this. H very fascinated
• 42:43
  about his take and his position in the whole thing and how he navigates his
• 42:50
  role and the choices that he ultimately has to make. It. I thought
• 42:53
  it was very, very, very very good. Yeah, yeah, I
• 42:57
  agree. I had him as a runner up for for sure. That Brad
• 43:01
  Dorriff guy who plays worm Tongue. Yeah, I hate him so much,
• 43:06
  and so that's got to mean that he's doing a great job, right,
• 43:08
  I mean, you know he's one of those his eyebrows for this his role,
• 43:13
  it's and they're creepy, dude. Yeah, but he has a tear
• 43:17
  go down his face at one point is one of the most Yes, that
• 43:23
  moment is so important and stunning. That wasn't in the script. He can
• 43:30
  just do that, and he offered it and they were like, yeah,
• 43:34
  yes, we want that to happen, you know, like it's so good.
• 43:37
  It has such a meaning to like what's happening in the world at that.
• 43:44
  Yeah, and he's such a big character in Yeah, the end game
• 43:47
  for the books, right right, right right, not with the Ring,
• 43:51
  but when the Hobbits go back to the Shire and all that stuff, Like
• 43:54
  he the you know, the niceness that they show him here, you know,
• 43:59
  it plays into Tolkien's love for like Mercy shows up later and pays everybody
• 44:05
  off kind of deal, you know, like said in the crudist terms,
• 44:07
  but they have Mercy on worm tongue and let him live and then eventually he
• 44:13
  kills Saramon in the books, doesn't really it doesn't happen that way in the
• 44:16
  movies. But no, no, I think I think the movie choice was
• 44:20
  better. Honestly, I understand it for sure. I don't know, I
• 44:23
  mean, for for a movie, yeah, I'm not experience. I don't
• 44:27
  know if I'm prepared to say it's better, but I do get it.
• 44:30
  Better for I'm saying better, you have to yeah, yeah, otherwise I
• 44:35
  totally get that it's already four hours, man, come on, yeah,
• 44:37
  totally, absolutely absolutely, but yeah, the tier thing really does help.
• 44:45
  Oh, it's glorious. It's gravity to the situation that someone is wicked and
• 44:49
  awful as him seeing the horror that's before him and like he was ready to
• 44:55
  betray everybody anyway, but thou actually seeing the army in person and because Scart
• 45:00
  realizing what has happened is like too much for him and which is so cool
• 45:07
  to see that. That's great anyway. Also shout out to our guy Adam
• 45:15
  Chances favorite too. Yeah, just hanging out in this. I didn't choose
• 45:21
  him because I figured a chance was going to choose him. But he had
• 45:24
  his chance, you know, and lost it, but he whatever. Carl
• 45:36
  Mary Pippen were especially great and this one. I love them so much.
• 45:39
  They're so good and just a plug for their podcast. If you haven't heard
• 45:44
  listened to The Friendship, I know I need to listen to that. I
• 45:47
  still haven't done it. I've listened to some of it with Adam and it's
• 45:51
  it's pretty it's pretty entertaining. That sounds awesome. It's fun because Billy Boyd
• 45:58
  has kept his voice really over the years. Oh nice, nice, So
• 46:01
  it sounds like it's Pippin and the podcast the whole time, and they talk
• 46:07
  about like freaking food and stuff. So you just like imagine just perfect the
• 46:10
  Hobbits talking about this stuff and it's incredible. It's really fun. But they
• 46:15
  had Stephen Colbert on as an episode, a two part episode on their podcast,
• 46:21
  Very good, amazing. Definitely listen to that because it's such a nerd.
• 46:24
  He's such a nerd, So they really Lord of the Rings. Yeah,
• 46:28
  they deep dive and it's great, it's great. Yeah, he's the
• 46:32
  next level nerd about this for sure, which is great. Nice. Yeah,
• 46:38
  I don't Oh, and also shout out to Peter Jackson, who is
• 46:42
  throwing a spear. I don't know that I had noticed ever before three watch,
• 46:49
  and he's also in the Fellowship movie as well, because he's a Hobbit.
• 46:53
  I think that that's exactly where Yeah, when we see those like ring
• 47:00
  wraiths come, Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I wonder if he's to
• 47:04
  then all three yes he is, Yeah, and that makes sense. In
• 47:07
  the third one he's one of the wicked men on the ships that shoots the
• 47:14
  arrow as they're like laughing at them, but they're totally like he gets hit
• 47:19
  the arrow and he like looks at his captain. He's like, oh,
• 47:23
  he can't wait to watch that. He did a good job. Nice.
• 47:29
  Nice. Yeah. Anybody else though, I mean, yeah, we could
• 47:34
  just say the other people too, but just just go down the cast.
• 47:37
  Yeah, Tyler and Christopher Lee, everybody, all those. Tyler was not
• 47:45
  in this movie. She technically was, but she's not, like really in
• 47:49
  this movie. Well we had flashback he things, well, even Sean bean
• 47:52
  at a flashback in this but oh, I'm sorry, you're Yeah. The
• 47:55
  reason I said that's a bunch of them. I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
• 47:59
  The reason I said that, it's because, uh, in the Yeah,
• 48:01
  in the I think in the theatrical one, she's not in it, right,
• 48:10
  but she is actually in the battle at the very end of Helm's Deep
• 48:15
  when they when the the Roherum goes down the hill. Oh really she's in
• 48:22
  there, but as her character or just because we initially she was going to
• 48:29
  be there for that moment to come back as part of as part of like
• 48:35
  sure, yeah, like the forces of good coming in at the end there
• 48:38
  there is a clip you can look at see it online where you can actually
• 48:43
  see a frame of her in the battle and then and then they took it
• 48:47
  out because it like Noah's yeah yeah right, yeah, compared to you know,
• 48:54
  yeah, yeah, that's interesting, very cool. Nice. Oh well,
• 48:59
  let's start talking about some of our favorite scenes. Let's name the da
• 49:04
  It's quite simple, really, dass, I can talk about my dinghas all.
• 49:07
  I love you got for this one buddy, favorite scene in this Adam
• 49:14
  when Gallum is talking to himself and and having that conversation. I mean,
• 49:17
  that's that's oh but that's so hard, you guys. Come on, we
• 49:22
  can talk about stuff too. Can the entire battle at Helm's Deep be a
• 49:29
  scene? Yeah, I have to, I think. I mean, yeah,
• 49:31
  that's like an hour, but yeah, we we have done that before,
• 49:37
  so I'm not sure. The second half of the movie, yeah,
• 49:40
  I mean, I love the scenes leading up to the battle when they get
• 49:44
  to Helm's Deep, and I love like the you know, even Legolis starts
• 49:50
  to Questionnaire going there and like that's really brilliant how that scene plays out,
• 49:55
  because he's like this is this is madness or whatever, like three hundred against
• 50:00
  ten thousand, you know, and he's like and then he switches to Elvish
• 50:06
  tongue when everyone's trying to hushes up because they hear that their leaders talking,
• 50:09
  and then he switches to Elfish tongue so that they can't hear what he's saying,
• 50:14
  and then he comes in. But I will die with them. Oh
• 50:16
  man, what a scene. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I love that.
• 50:24
  That's that's just But man, you can go to the almost every scene
• 50:28
  in this film and I'd be like, I love this scene. I love
• 50:30
  that scene, right, you know. Yeah, if I'm going for the
• 50:35
  Helm's Deep battle, I gotta do in GalF. Gandalf returns him down,
• 50:39
  and that's like a big hype moment, very big, very big moment.
• 50:45
  In fact, that's when my my my daughter was just like all so happy
• 50:50
  and clappy and just like she hadn't seen it yet, so that when she
• 50:54
  saw that, she was just like freaking out. It was good totally.
• 50:59
  That's a great, great for sure. Oh I love that. Um yeah,
• 51:06
  I think if we're going for Spectacle, I'm gonna pick the like when
• 51:10
  all the Orcs are there and they're faced off in times Deep, like just
• 51:15
  that whole lead up to the like an old guy. The arrow flies out
• 51:17
  and he doesn't mean to and then just pandemonium. You know, it was
• 51:22
  a great shoto, super good shot right here. The guy that had to
• 51:30
  I'm missing actually is a real guy that had I I know I'm missing.
• 51:35
  Yeah, I had read some triple that. He's like, so, I
• 51:38
  see you have an eye patch, and like asked him about it, and
• 51:42
  he showed him and then he was like, I don't want to make you
• 51:45
  uncomfortable, and also you don't have to do this, but are you interested
• 51:49
  in showing that one film? You know? And then he got that sweet
• 51:52
  shot and every Yeah. So luckily the guy was you know, felt comfortable
• 51:57
  doing that though. Yeah, that's a potentially very weird versation. Yeah for
• 52:00
  sure. But I mean he didn't look like a person anymore. It's just
• 52:04
  like, you know it, you know, totally, can we go?
• 52:09
  We can? We do have time for more dinghises? Oh for sure?
• 52:13
  Oh yeah, yeah, as many as you can handle, buddy. The
• 52:15
  very beginning of the movie, the opening scene that takes us right back to
• 52:22
  the biggest scene of the first Yes, love that. How a good way
• 52:25
  to bring indible, so good, Such a good way to bring us back,
• 52:29
  and how incredible is then to follow Gandalf down the hole. That was
• 52:32
  great, him fighting him all the way down. Yeah, yes, yeah,
• 52:38
  that was really cool. You almost forget about it because it's the beginning
• 52:44
  of a four hour movie, but yeah, yeah, it is incredible.
• 52:47
  Yeah. I really like the scene where he frees theodin. Yeah. Yeah
• 52:58
  from yeah that doctor was cinematography of him changing his age or whatever. That's
• 53:07
  really impressive. I don't know how they did that. That's it also holds
• 53:12
  up incredibly well, which is cool. Yeah, you know, like,
• 53:15
  yeah, it really does. Yeah, I mean that's that's one of the
• 53:19
  Maybe that's where where my hot take comes in is like this film was so
• 53:25
  incredibly groundbreaking because like, like the previous film came out and so like the
• 53:31
  bar was set so high and people were just like, you know, like,
• 53:36
  wow, what an amazing you know film that will that will look what
• 53:39
  they did, Look what they accomplished. And then this film comes out and
• 53:44
  people are just blown away again and they're just like, I can't believe everything
• 53:47
  I'm seeing in this film. This is unbelievable. And at the time,
• 53:52
  like they were using like you know, late nineties technology for a lot of
• 53:55
  this, like the fact that they this that it as if just from a
• 54:00
  pure cinematography standpoint, it holds up so well amongst technology that we have today.
• 54:07
  And like you just every scene when I went when recently went back and
• 54:10
  watched it again for this podcast, I just every scene, I'm like,
• 54:15
  there's nothing about this that makes me feel like it's dated, but that it's
• 54:20
  just out of touch, that it's like, you know, hard to get
• 54:22
  into. I'm still like a hundred percent appreciating the beauty that I'm finding in
• 54:29
  every shot. And yeah, I was just absolutely taken away. Yeah,
• 54:34
  I love that hot taken away. Hot taken away. Also, that dead
• 54:42
  Marsha scene is just so cool. That is a good one. Yeah,
• 54:45
  don't follow the lights and all that stuff. That's so creepy, especially knowing
• 54:52
  that, like the this comes from one of the darker times in Tolkien's life,
• 54:57
  you know, like the fields of dead people that you know, in
• 55:00
  World War One and all that, and just like that vibe is just I
• 55:06
  don't know, it just makes it even cooler to me. It's so fun.
• 55:08
  I love that whole thing. It's crazy. Oh, here you go.
• 55:13
  I just found it for you Bukes. The shot of legoli is jumping
• 55:16
  onto his horse before the war attack is one of the most iconic moments in
• 55:21
  the movie. However, Orlando Bloom never shot it. He cracked a rib
• 55:24
  from falling from a horse on an earlier day and was unable to get up
• 55:30
  onto a horse afterwards. Another tick for the injury list. We should you
• 55:37
  just add like an injury like another injury counter. Much later, when editing
• 55:44
  the film, Jackson realized he still needed a shot of Legolis mounting the horse,
• 55:49
  and with Bloom unable to do reshoots because he was making another movie,
• 55:53
  the moment was created with CGI And that's why it's it's botted you to this
• 56:00
  day, because it's not a real person doing it. Yeah, it looks
• 56:05
  it, it looks yeah. Yeah, that's fun. That's great. One
• 56:12
  thing he definitely did do was surf on that shield down the stairs. Yeah,
• 56:17
  that's pretty cool. That was pretty sweet. I liked a lot.
• 56:22
  And another thing that I loved was aergorn throwing Gimli. That was that was
• 56:28
  a lot of fun. So great, I kind of makes so great.
• 56:36
  That's like one of my favorite moments. And that yeah, sure, such
• 56:42
  a good moment. So especially now knowing that they filmed because they filmed everything
• 56:46
  at once and out of order. They filmed that before they filmed the spot
• 56:50
  where he was like never toss or whatever you like. I just think that's
• 56:55
  so fun because it really did make it even more fun. Yeah, so
• 57:00
  I loved Yeah, don't tell the health so good love all that, um
• 57:08
  pretty good, pretty good dinghis Yeah, all those I guess, I don't
• 57:13
  know sure to pick one is enough. That's a lot that helm most of
• 57:22
  other movies for sure, for sure. Yeah, well, let's go talk
• 57:27
  about some of these fun quots. It's time to show me the money show
• 57:32
  Men. To see a couple of these. Body the one that was I
• 57:42
  think I had to narrow it down, and I think the best one was
• 57:45
  when Sam wise game he is talking to Frodo, which, interestingly enough,
• 57:52
  this is actually another thing that was um added right, yeah added afterwards.
• 57:58
  Yeah, it was never failed, which is surprise. It's crazy because it's
• 58:02
  like they go to other shots and like you still hear them talking, but
• 58:05
  he says, uh, you know, what are they fighting for? And
• 58:09
  he and his answer is like that there's still some or that there's still some
• 58:14
  good in this world, mister Frodo and it's worth fighting for. Yeah,
• 58:19
  kind of love that Sam is the best. God, He's just the best
• 58:24
  at a moment. That what a moment. Yeah, that's the that's the
• 58:28
  quote of the movie for sure, that entire speech to what he talks about
• 58:31
  because he also, like it feels very like it's almost a love letter to
• 58:37
  Tolkien and other people who write these stories too, because he's just like they're
• 58:42
  talking about the great stories and what they meant to them as you know,
• 58:46
  as kids, and like what they mean to us as audio. You know,
• 58:50
  like it's one of those fun like they could be talking to so many
• 58:52
  different people. You know, it works in the story and outside of the
• 58:57
  story and all these things. I just love that stuff like that. I
• 59:00
  think it's oh absolutely yeah, Yeah, that's fun. That's a great one's
• 59:04
  Yeah, it surmises like the whole experience, the whole film. Yeah,
• 59:08
  it's incredible. Totally. Do you have any more you would like to sing?
• 59:12
  Sir? No? That was it? Okay, that's it all right?
• 59:16
  Well, I definitely have some Legois and Gimley quotes here. Legolis says
• 59:22
  final count forty two. Ghimley says forty two. Oh, that's not bad
• 59:25
  for a pointy eared Elvish princeling, I myself him sitting pretty on forty three,
• 59:32
  and then he takes he takes out an arrow, he shoots, shoots
• 59:37
  another one of those orcs, and he says forty three, and Gimley's like
• 59:39
  he was already dead. Legolis says he was twitching. Gimley says he was
• 59:44
  twitching because he's got my axe embedded in his nervous system. That's fun.
• 59:52
  I liked all that, um. And then they also had one earlier where
• 59:58
  Gimley's like Legos two all ready, or Gimley said, Legolis two already,
• 1:00:02
  Lego, since I'm on seventeen, It's like, huh oh, I have
• 1:00:07
  no point here outscoring me. And then we we hear Lego sell out nineteen
• 1:00:15
  one. It's pretty great. I thought that was funny. I assumed that
• 1:00:20
  was like a like they added that for the movie, but that's in the
• 1:00:23
  books, which I think is so yeah, like it seems like a too
• 1:00:28
  silly of a thing, almost to be a box or something. But yeah,
• 1:00:32
  when Gimile is failing to see over the wall, he says, what's
• 1:00:36
  happening out there? And Legos like, shall I describe it? To you,
• 1:00:38
  and he's like hmm. He says, or would you like me to
• 1:00:40
  find you a box? And then he starts laughing. His his laugh cracks
• 1:00:46
  me up because he does yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah
• 1:00:51
  deep laugh. There so great. At one point, Gimbley says, talking
• 1:00:55
  trees, what do trees have to talk about except the consistency of squirrel droppings?
• 1:01:00
  Yeah? There there you go, right now, you get the accent
• 1:01:02
  going. I like all those dogs. One that I say too much probably
• 1:01:12
  is legoless. What do your elf eyes see? I just love always says
• 1:01:16
  that when he's peering off into the distance. Very fun. Um, what
• 1:01:21
  about them? They are fresh? Looks like meats back on the menu?
• 1:01:25
  Boys? Good do you want to do you know who that is? Do
• 1:01:30
  you know who that is? No? Who is that Andy serkis? Oh?
• 1:01:34
  Is it really that sense? What about them that are fresh? That's
• 1:01:37
  Andy serkis doing? That makes sense because it's so good and I've always liked
• 1:01:42
  it, you know, like he gets all the like and and uh so
• 1:01:49
  it's it's the it's a weird had nothing to be but maggotty stinking bread pretty
• 1:01:57
  whatever that headline is. Yeah, that's also Andy serkus. Oh that's great.
• 1:02:02
  They were just like, just do some Why can't preh have some meat?
• 1:02:06
  Yeah, and that's any circus, it's it's amated that his Yeah,
• 1:02:08
  he did a lot of the orc horses, which is just nuts man.
• 1:02:13
  Also maybe, I mean I get like thematically. The line of the of
• 1:02:19
  the movie is the one you said, but the one that Geld said the
• 1:02:22
  most is the what's taint is precious pototoes boil them, mash them, stick
• 1:02:28
  him in a stew. Yeah. I love Sam. He's so great.
• 1:02:32
  Yeah, I mean all of the column botes, Like I guess if there's
• 1:02:36
  one I repeated more than anything else, it's everything that call him said in
• 1:02:39
  it, right, you know, right, stupred, fat harmed. YEA
• 1:02:45
  love that, uh we said already, but I kind of dropped the distance
• 1:02:50
  off. Yeah, so great, love that uh uh uh yeah we said
• 1:03:00
  that one already. Oh and so much death. What can men do against
• 1:03:06
  such reckless hate? I love that line reading that Thad and has there It's
• 1:03:10
  so good. Ye And then one of my personal favorites at the end,
• 1:03:15
  you left out one of the chief characters, Sam Lie the Brave. I
• 1:03:20
  want to hear more about Sam Frodo wouldn't have gotten very far without Sam.
• 1:03:23
  And then Sam's like, now, mister Frodo, you shouldn't make fun.
• 1:03:27
  I was being serious, so was I tender moment? Yeah, they love
• 1:03:32
  each other. You cried during that moment, didn't you? Oh, dhirt,
• 1:03:37
  Yeah, I think I think I think you have like thirty six,
• 1:03:42
  I think you cried the entire movie? Did you ever stop crying? That's
• 1:03:45
  a fair question. Don't have any other quotes? Oh my gosh awful post
• 1:03:55
  my sucker office, you know. Yeah. Also you mentioned the sun with
• 1:04:08
  Gandalf and uh Patin but when he's like, you have no power here,
• 1:04:13
  Gandlf the gray and then he's like he's like, I told you to take
• 1:04:16
  his staff and all that stuff. Oh you mean, yeah, why should
• 1:04:20
  I welcome? Yeah storm Chrome Ye like a slimy bastard. I loved it.
• 1:04:39
  Yeah. Oh yeah. The reply the be silent or whatever that passed
• 1:04:47
  through fire, death and judgment to trade words with a witless whim or something
• 1:04:51
  like that. Yeah, whatever he said it so as poison is drawn from
• 1:04:57
  a wound. He's just so great, so good dude. Also, the
• 1:05:00
  Shadow facts thing, just the Lord of all horses. Yeah, and they
• 1:05:05
  does like them. It's like crazy whistle that they put a bunch of wouldn't
• 1:05:15
  he cut you out out? Ye'll hear it? Yeah yeah, yeah yeah
• 1:05:20
  the whistling for sure. Uh yeah. Oh photo Bangkans is my name and
• 1:05:30
  this is Sam Wise Gamgi. Then fair Mere goes your bodyguard and he's just
• 1:05:33
  like he's gardener. He's gardener, so fun. Yeah, that's all I've
• 1:05:44
  got. Nice, Well, let's talk about all these crying moments. Let
• 1:05:49
  the crying game mugmou moments. Oh am, strong men also cry strong man.
• 1:06:00
  So so yeah, we kind of realized that Bugs just needs to name
• 1:06:05
  these because I can't. He has such a connection to these films. There's
• 1:06:13
  zero chance he had well over twenty in the in the first one. Yeah,
• 1:06:18
  and on this one. I didn't write them all down as well this
• 1:06:24
  time. But we'll just go through what I have here immediately again fly your
• 1:06:29
  fools again and Fronto's just so sad. I love, like you said,
• 1:06:32
  Adam bringing us back into that moment. So great. Um, they're talking
• 1:06:38
  about the salt and he's like it is special. It's a little bit of
• 1:06:40
  home. So nice up the Shire salt U. Then they go on and
• 1:06:47
  talk about nothing damp in sam spirits, which is such a nice thing.
• 1:06:53
  Um. Let's see, Oh, when a fane takes his sister. They
• 1:07:00
  when Rohan is being attacked by the mountain folk or whatever, so sad and
• 1:07:06
  great. I loved that scene a lot, you know, the mom sends
• 1:07:12
  them and I loved that they got reunited later and stuff. Yeah, I
• 1:07:15
  figured for sure you were crying on the when they were reunited. Yes,
• 1:07:18
  we can count both of those because they definitely U When Gandolf comes back and
• 1:07:24
  he's Scandalf the White, of course, that got me. Loved that so
• 1:07:28
  much. Let's see. This one got me and I was surprised. It's
• 1:07:33
  when Salmon Frodo are like gonna just go to the gate, you know,
• 1:07:38
  which is like the dumbest thing, but Gollum like stops them and convinces them
• 1:07:42
  to take another road. Like there was some really great moments there where they
• 1:07:45
  trusted him, and you know, should they I don't know, but uh,
• 1:07:50
  when Aowen has to tell theten that his son is dead after he comes
• 1:07:55
  back, and really just him coming back, I guess as well. Then
• 1:08:00
  Theadred's burial, which gets me because I don't think that was in the theatrical
• 1:08:06
  or like, yeah, the end part was, but not the whole service
• 1:08:12
  or something like something that, yeah, like they get the service or something.
• 1:08:14
  Yeah. I've watched so many of the extended ones now that I don't
• 1:08:16
  really remember. Always yeah um and then that line that no parents should have
• 1:08:23
  to bury their child. But yeah yeah marudal um so great. Uh Ergorn
• 1:08:31
  falls over the cliff of course. Uh, there's the mother rejoined with her
• 1:08:35
  children. There's that one um uh what if what if Lord Ergorn he failed
• 1:08:43
  my lady? You know, that whole moment so sad. Uh. When
• 1:08:48
  Rowen says there's a child, then there's that whole moment um and just you
• 1:08:55
  know, them having to try and figure out she's giving up immortal life,
• 1:08:58
  but also she's getting something too, which is beautiful in its own way.
• 1:09:02
  Um. Then I shall die as one of them. That moment that we
• 1:09:08
  talked about so good. Love that as I love the quiet moment between Rigorn
• 1:09:13
  and Hollis, son of Hamma, when that little kid is so scared,
• 1:09:19
  you know, and he's like this is a good this is a good sword,
• 1:09:23
  and there's always hope. And also that's the kid Hamma is the guy
• 1:09:28
  who gets killed by the scout early on. He's the one that lets them
• 1:09:31
  in to talk to Theodin King at the beginning, and that's his son and
• 1:09:38
  he has passed now and stuff. So it's like a kind of interesting.
• 1:09:41
  We get this character art for this little kid, which is you know,
• 1:09:44
  we have more depth than we thought at that time. Yeah, but his
• 1:09:47
  name is Hamma, so I think that's him anyway. That's my Interestand he
• 1:09:50
  doesn't make it though, does he. I don't think he does. The
• 1:09:55
  little kid, Yeah, I'm I can't remember. There is a kid that
• 1:10:00
  a young man that's dead, but I don't know if it's him or not.
• 1:10:01
  Yeah, I don't know. I choose to believe it's not him.
• 1:10:05
  It was some other kid. I don't care about. Um. When the
• 1:10:11
  elves come to Helm's Deep, that was such a beautiful moment. Uh,
• 1:10:15
  when Mary's like there won't be a Shire Pippin and like he's like, my
• 1:10:19
  friend needs water and he's really struggling. That's sad um. When Haldeer dies
• 1:10:26
  uh in the Helm's Deep battle, he's the elf guy that gets killed.
• 1:10:30
  We don't get to know much about him than this, but he has a
• 1:10:33
  little more history in other stuff. Well, he's played by Craig Um,
• 1:10:40
  Craig. No, I just had his name Parker. I don't know that
• 1:10:50
  guy's been another stuff. Yes, oh, I mean I believe it.
• 1:10:56
  You look that up. I'll keep reading. Yeah, I think that's him.
• 1:10:59
  Um, when Treebeard sees his friends have been cut down by Sarmon,
• 1:11:03
  that's a very very emotional moment. And then they go to ward. It's
• 1:11:06
  super cool. That was a runner up scene for me. It was just
• 1:11:11
  them decide deciding to go and he's like, the Ends are going to war.
• 1:11:15
  It probably will be their last time, and like all that is super
• 1:11:18
  cool. Yeah, but then they ended up kicking ass and then they were
• 1:11:20
  fighting underlay strength. Yeah yeah, yeah, big time, big time.
• 1:11:28
  I love this the line. But then I thought that, like, yeah
• 1:11:31
  happened. And then they end up so that might be their last time they
• 1:11:35
  fight a war because there's not that many big wars left before they met the
• 1:11:41
  other way, Yeah, extentially a little bit. Well not they're demised,
• 1:11:45
  you know, right, yeah, exactly, Um, what can men do
• 1:11:49
  against such reckless hate? And then Eric Rn convinces them to ride out that's
• 1:11:56
  fun, and then Gandolf on the hill when he's like they didn't King stands
• 1:12:00
  alone. It's like he's not alone to the king. Like that whole cool
• 1:12:03
  thing is super cool. I love that when Sam is like Frodo's like gonna
• 1:12:10
  kill Sam for that minute, like he's almost taken by the ring. He's
• 1:12:14
  like, don't you know you're Sam, and then he has his whole speech,
• 1:12:15
  which is super dope. And then Sam wise the brave moment, and
• 1:12:20
  that is all that I wrote down. I've got one more for you.
• 1:12:25
  Hit me when the burning and finally gets his fire extinguished when the water comes.
• 1:12:32
  That's a great one. But I didn't cry, Okay, I was
• 1:12:35
  just relieved. I guess. Yeah, you like us to dip his head
• 1:12:40
  in the water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, super fun. Jackson added
• 1:12:44
  that because he thought children might be upset that the tree was still burning,
• 1:12:48
  so oh that's cute stuff like that, they had him put it out.
• 1:12:51
  Yeah, let's let's let him see. Yeah he gets like, oh he's
• 1:12:57
  all better now. Yeah that's great. So how many was that bugs?
• 1:13:00
  I think twenty five? Wow, that's less than fellowship, is it less?
• 1:13:06
  Ye? I'll have to look double check. Yeah. I started getting
• 1:13:12
  embarrassed and stopped writing them down. This maximum is gonna be rough, dude.
• 1:13:17
  Well, we'll see if it'll be endgame. Still, we haven't beaten
• 1:13:21
  end game yet. Step probably Well, all right, should we go ahead
• 1:13:26
  and do some movie trivia? Yes? Okay, yeah, we've said a
• 1:13:31
  few. Let's see. So the filming of the Helm's Deep sequences were really
• 1:13:35
  grooming or grueling grooming, uh and went on for many months. Uh So
• 1:13:42
  to commemorate, Jackson gave all the extras free T shirt to commemorate the experience.
• 1:13:47
  And there were so many extras that they would often recognize each other in
• 1:13:51
  New Zealand's cities. But because they were wearing the T shirts, which is
• 1:13:57
  so fun, and the T shirts had on them. I survived Helm's Deep,
• 1:14:00
  but then they would cross out the M so it would be Hell's Deep,
• 1:14:05
  which is wow. Yeah. And there was like a couple of versions
• 1:14:10
  of many how many people were you know? I didn't want numbers, but
• 1:14:17
  it was to man, but it was shot. It was twenty hours of
• 1:14:21
  footage shot over a four month period, so yea, for four months they
• 1:14:28
  tried to well. I had read that it was three months of night shoots.
• 1:14:32
  Yeah, three brutal months of night shoots, dude, and a lot
• 1:14:39
  just getting rained on the entire time. Yeah, like glad we decided to
• 1:14:45
  make it rain guys, three months of rainy night shoots sounds horrible. Yeah,
• 1:14:51
  And there's no way like those costumes were dry by the time they got
• 1:14:55
  into them the next night, at least completely you know. Oh yeah,
• 1:14:58
  yeah, crazy. Uh, they couldn't. They needed so many people that
• 1:15:01
  they couldn't recruit enough men in the six foot height area to play the urukai,
• 1:15:08
  so they started casting five foot high people as well, and they were
• 1:15:14
  affectionately named the Uruculo. That's really fun and I liked that a lot.
• 1:15:20
  I thought best year. Let's see. Oh, I thought this was fun.
• 1:15:26
  When Frodo and Sam are in Ascilief, Sam says, by rights,
• 1:15:30
  we shouldn't even be here. And this is a nod to the deviation in
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  the freeplay because they never go there in the books. So it's just like
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  a fun like we get it, but also this works, don't worry,
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  you know. I thought that was a fun little homage to the book readers.
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  Vigo bought another horse m from this movie. I think he bought one
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  for a win or Arwin's uh, Clive Tyler's stunt double I think writers or
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  stunt right. Uh. But he was so impressed with the horse that his
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  character wrote that he purchased him from the owners, um, and then had
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  to ship him back to New Zealand for additional shots that they did later,
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  like a year later something, which is kind of funny. So it was
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  neat. Uh. We said the thing about that, there's there's sources online
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  here that are saying that they had employed twenty thousand extras too the three films.
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  That's crazy. That doesn't even seem possible. Oh. I mean,
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  probably not all at once, I suppose, but still that's crazy crazy.
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  I verify this. But that's that is Yeah, that's wild. Let's see,
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  there were two hundred to three hundred horses used in the trilogy. I
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  just thought this was interesting. Um. But because the like a lot of
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  them were used in battle scenes and they were worried about the horses being harmed,
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  they they actually like mo capped them and took different like images of the
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  horses and then made those with CGI be in like in the movie in the
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  battle scenes, so no horses were hurt at all, which I thought that
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  was just pretty cool. I thought that was neat. Let's see, we
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  said the one eyed dude. Uh, let's see. Oh. I thought
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  this was cool that, like the Urukai Battle, chance for the Helm's deep
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  sequence were provided by a stadium of twenty five thousand cricket fans. Yeah,
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  and they just threw up what they wanted them to say, like on the
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  JumboTron and had them screaming out and stuff. I just thought that was really
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  neat. That's a fun idea. They just like little insects. Huh,
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  they love them. Look at that cricket when you wish up on it.
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  Let's see. Uh. They filmed Ederis was filmed in the midst of a
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  national park, the Rohan location, and they let them. They let them
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  film there, but because they had to be there for like six months and
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  they didn't want to wreck anything, they like lifted the vegetation and the grasses
• 1:18:19
  up from like the main spots, moved them somewhere else, kept them like
• 1:18:25
  cared for them, and then moved them back after filming. Isn't that insane?
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  Lifted the turf basically moved it somewhere else, kept it alive, and
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  then relocated. I just that was really wild and fun. So Billy Boyd
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  and Dominic Monahan spent so much time up in the tree for the Treebeard scenes
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  that they spent their time between takes writing a screenplay. And it was so
• 1:18:53
  difficult to get up and down from their purchase that they were often just left
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  there. Like when the crew went to lunch and stuff, someone would just
• 1:19:00
  pass him up their lunches and then they would just chill up there. That
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  was really fun. Think how just productive you'd be. It was like before
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  smartphones. Oh yeah, they're like I guess, yeah, totally totally though.
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  That was really fun. Uh and let's see, Oh that that scene
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  where Gandolf calls Shadow acts and he comes across an entire field right to Gandolf.
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  That was a one take shot, which is crazy, Like they the
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  horse came right to him the first time and it looked perfect, and they
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  were like, great print it. We're all we're all set, you know.
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  I thought that was neat. Uh yeah, And I think that was
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  oh yeah, that was it because the last one I had was the thing
• 1:19:43
  you said at him about Sam's lines, like his longer lines that he had
• 1:19:49
  were the narration was added later, which is fun. I thought it was
• 1:19:57
  right. Sam's monologue was never filmed. Yes, they added more more stuff
• 1:20:01
  over it. They thought so they added that. But yeah, as far
• 1:20:04
  as as far as the other injury, I thought that. I saw that.
• 1:20:10
  Bernard Hill, who played Theoden, didn't he crack his stern? Him?
• 1:20:14
  Oh I missed that. Did anybody see that? No? But I
• 1:20:17
  buy it. I saw that. Like the in early on when they're chasing
• 1:20:23
  the orcs, Ghim, lay Legolis and Aragorn. Three of those dudes were
• 1:20:28
  injured at the time. Yes, they were all injured at the same time
• 1:20:31
  because it wasn't Rhees Davies, it was it was his double. Yeah.
• 1:20:35
  Actually there was two other guys really nice. Yeah, but yeah, he
• 1:20:40
  liked. All of them were injured when they fill. Someone had a knee,
• 1:20:44
  someone had a you know, back or Yeah. One thing I saw
• 1:20:48
  that was funny. John Rees Davies had lost the tip of his left middle
• 1:20:53
  finger in a farm accident when he was younger, so special prosthetic fingertips were
• 1:20:57
  made from a cast of his right middle finger. During shooting, he decided
• 1:21:00
  to pull a prank on director Sir Peter Jackson. He cut the tip off
• 1:21:04
  the prosthetic finger and filled it with fake blood. Then went up to Jackson
• 1:21:09
  said, pass, I had an accident. Oh god, that is something
• 1:21:16
  I could really get behind. As far as people up for other roles,
• 1:21:24
  I saw that, and I had seen this in the Fellowship trivia. But
• 1:21:29
  Orlando Bloom he originally auditioned for Farremere. Wow, that was what he was
• 1:21:35
  going for. And yeah, big time. And one of the reasons for
• 1:21:41
  the casting of David Wenham for Farremere was his resemblance to Sean Bean. Yea
• 1:21:46
  makes sense, and they really do look similar. It's it was good casting
• 1:21:51
  there. It looks like Kate Winslet was offered the role of Aowen. Wow.
• 1:22:00
  Yeah, that would have worked, I bet for sure. I mean,
• 1:22:03
  Titanic had already kind of happened, so way too small over roll,
• 1:22:11
  I would think, but you know, you know, but the last thing
• 1:22:15
  I saw was early in pre production. Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawk were set
• 1:22:19
  to play ao In and Faremere, and scheduling conflicts prevented it. But it
• 1:22:24
  meant that those two parts were finally cast relatively late into the production. But
• 1:22:30
  yeah, that's pretty that was all I had repped. Do you have some
• 1:22:32
  more, buddy? Sure? Do? There was only one serious accident on
• 1:22:38
  set aside from all the people getting hurt. Okay, you remember you remember
• 1:22:45
  the stuntman that gets hit with the giant or catapult like bolt that shoots up
• 1:22:51
  to the Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, there's a one shot where like
• 1:22:57
  there so the bringing up those big ladders and like those shooting man so like
• 1:23:00
  bolts up in there, and there's one scene where a guy like gets hit
• 1:23:02
  by it and gets shot back with Yeah I remember that. Yeah, he
• 1:23:09
  was pulled back against the wall by a wire but landed awkwardly and broke his
• 1:23:14
  leg very badly. It says, that's all it says. But when I
• 1:23:19
  first read that there was only one serious accident and then there's the shot of
• 1:23:23
  him actually getting hit by that big thing, well I was like, what
• 1:23:28
  he died? It looks like he died with that. Yeah, it's crazy.
• 1:23:34
  Yeah. So the final scene in the forest where Gallam is talking to
• 1:23:45
  himself again like planning out how he's going to get them was added during reshoots.
• 1:23:53
  Oh cool, um, and I think they had it was very difficult
• 1:23:59
  to do, you know, because like they're timing out against his cgi yeah
• 1:24:05
  right right, And if you look at the shot, like that's pretty crazy.
• 1:24:09
  How that how they shoot it, and it seems very natural in the
• 1:24:13
  film. Yeah, that's wild. I can't imagine not having that scene either,
• 1:24:18
  that's crazy. Um, let's see you're what else? Oh yeah,
• 1:24:27
  do you know the elves actually don't come to Helm's deep in the book?
• 1:24:30
  Yeah? I did know that. Yeah, I just saw that as a
• 1:24:39
  when I was looking at reviews that that was one thing that made Tolken purists
• 1:24:45
  really mad. Yeah, yeah, which I get. I understand. Definitely
• 1:24:50
  a decision on Peters what he thought it should the story should be. But
• 1:24:56
  yeah, um, anyway, also, Sean Bean scene in this film was
• 1:25:01
  not in the theatrical one in theaters. Yeah. Yeah, that gives a
• 1:25:09
  lot more depth to that. Well, and I'm just like, and apparently
• 1:25:14
  he didn't want to cut him out either because he had Sean alive, but
• 1:25:17
  from the UK back out to New Zealand to shoot the scene. That is
• 1:25:23
  funny cool. Yeah, yeah, that's just a lot of just yeah,
• 1:25:29
  that's fun, you know, nice crazy. Well, would you guys like
• 1:25:34
  to play a game? Yeah? I decided to do a plot tub Time
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  Machine, partly because I know Chance isn't like doing the starting five, so
• 1:25:47
  much, and he was supposed to be on here, But so I did
• 1:25:53
  a plot time time machine. What I'm gonna do. I'm going to read
• 1:25:56
  a plot synopsis to a film. Once you know what the tie is ringing
• 1:26:00
  with your name for a point, and that's it. And all of these
• 1:26:06
  ten films have something in common if you know what the theme is ring in
• 1:26:12
  at any time for a point. Are we good? Yeah, let's go
• 1:26:15
  to number one. While racing toward the town of Red Rock and Posts Civil
• 1:26:21
  War Wyoming, a bounty hunter and his fugitive prisoner encounter another bounty hunter and
• 1:26:26
  a man who claims to be a sheriff. Hoping to find shelter from a
• 1:26:29
  blizzard. The group travels to a stagecoach stop over Hateful eight. Hateful Eh,
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  Yes, beauties, you got it. News is on the board one
• 1:26:42
  second ahead of me. Yeah, we'll blame that. I like all right,
• 1:26:46
  Let's go to number two. A lovable Englishman and his group of friends
• 1:26:51
  seem to be unlucky in love. When he meets a beautiful American at a
• 1:26:55
  wedding, he thinks his luck may have changed, but after one magical night,
• 1:26:59
  she returns to the States, ending what might have been as their paths
• 1:27:02
  continue to cross over a handful of nuptials and one funeral, Big bugs,
• 1:27:08
  yea, four weddings in a funeral. Yeah, yeah, he got it.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah, I wouldn't have gotten that. Do we know what the theme
• 1:27:15
  is? Oh? Yeah, it's movies with a number in the title.
• 1:27:23
  It is yeah bugs. Now it's three points. That might make things easier,
• 1:27:27
  but we'll see it could make them harder. We'll see number three.
• 1:27:32
  Following the terrorist attacks of September eleven, two thousand and one, Issama bin
• 1:27:36
  Laden becomes one of the most wanted men on the planet. The worldwide man
• 1:27:41
  hunt for the t is um adam rum. Yeah, I know which one
• 1:27:46
  years. It's like thirty seconds dark. I know what do you got,
• 1:28:08
  Biggs? It's zero dark thirty year party. Yeah, that was pretty great.
• 1:28:15
  That was pretty great. Were there the concept? Absolutely? All right?
• 1:28:23
  Well, okay, so Biggs has four. Now let's go to number
• 1:28:27
  four. Three cowboy movie stars from the Silent era are fired when one of
• 1:28:32
  their movie bumps. Nicely done, Adams on the board, good drop,
• 1:28:40
  wait to go, buddy, Yeah, yeah, let's go to number five.
• 1:28:45
  A man runs a photo developing lab in a small mall He's a perfectionist
• 1:28:49
  about his work and generous to his regular customers, including a typical family.
• 1:28:55
  Over the years, he's seen their family grow. Yes, is it one
• 1:29:00
  hour photo? One hour photo? Yeah, yeah, that's that Robin Williams.
• 1:29:04
  One right, it is the creepy Robin Williams. One excuse me?
• 1:29:10
  All right, let's go to number six. In the twenty third century in
• 1:29:15
  New York City, Cabby finds the fate of the world in his hands when
• 1:29:18
  Lee lou fasn't Adam oh got it? Adam's got a second point, it's
• 1:29:27
  going. Number seven. A man convinces three friends three friends, you guys,
• 1:29:33
  to pool funds for a high stakes poker game. It gets a local
• 1:29:38
  crime boss. They lose, giving them a week to pay back. Five
• 1:29:42
  h yes, lock stock, and two smoking barrel. It is it is
• 1:29:46
  that? Are you keeping so good? Are you keeping track? By the
• 1:29:49
  way, Okay, what do we got going into number? I have six
• 1:29:54
  reps? Two? All right? No, no, no, I still
• 1:30:00
  haven't seen it. No I want to, though, muses one already,
• 1:30:04
  But let's keep playing the number eight. A young boy is haunted by a
• 1:30:09
  dark secret. He is frightened by visitations from those with unresolved problems who appear
• 1:30:14
  from the shadows. He's too afraid to tell anyone about his anguish except the
• 1:30:17
  child psychologist Adam sixth sense, the sixth sense he got. Yeah, nicely
• 1:30:25
  done. Just start counting numbers in your head. Alright, let's see number
• 1:30:31
  nine. This is an office satire about three women who decide to get revenge
• 1:30:36
  on their tyrannical sexist. Yeah yeah, and the last one. When a
• 1:30:46
  retiring police detective tackles a final case with the aid of a newly transferred detective,
• 1:30:50
  they discover a number of elaborate and grizzly murders. They soon realize they're
• 1:30:56
  dealing with the serial killer who's targeting people. Eat. Thanks yes, seven,
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  seven, yep, yep, you had a very good job. Bugs.
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  buddy. It was great, haven't yet? You were great? Man?
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  Who Yeah, the happiest sneaker we've ever heard. I was gonna say
• 1:31:47
  that doesn't even seem like Jimmy's so happy, very joyous. Yeah, I'm
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  doing a thing. No, I get it, No, I love it.
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  You did a great job. I think it was a good It was
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  a good I'm trying to be sneak, not just cuping. Let's go right,
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  all right, cool, okay, well this was a delight. Thanks
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  for coming on. Uh and yes, stay tuned as we were already on
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  the last movie next time, so we're six more hours of film. It's
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