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One Piece, 812 & 813 · Spoil Me! One Piece

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  Speaker 1: This is an unspoiled network podcast. This is spoil Me,
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  Speaker 1: covering one piece episodes eight twelve and eight thirteen Invading
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  Speaker 1: the Chateau, Reached the Road, Ponaglyph, and a fateful confrontation
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  Speaker 1: Loofy and Big Mom. In these episodes, Loofy just keeps
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  Speaker 1: thinking that he's dealing with somebody who has so much
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  Speaker 1: pride that the instant Lufy's like, Oh, I see you
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  Speaker 1: don't want to fight me because you scared that they're
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  Speaker 1: just gonna fight him. Big Mom has a way better
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  Speaker 1: shit to be doing, Loofy, and she is not falling
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  Speaker 1: for this, and I, for one, applaud it and I
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  Speaker 1: like her. I like her better for it. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: spoil Me, Welcome to the show everyone. I am Natasha.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you very much to Florian for commissioning this episode.
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  Speaker 1: Florian is here in the chat with cerr FM. Delighted
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  Speaker 1: to have you both. So these episodes are very I
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  Speaker 1: was a little surprised that it was only these two
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  Speaker 1: because it seems like the next episode, where Brooke is
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  Speaker 1: about to apparently just go to town, was part of
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  Speaker 1: a sort of like arc of story. But I can
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  Speaker 1: predict that probably the next three episodes go together especially well,
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  Speaker 1: and that's why it's broken down this way. Just for
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  Speaker 1: the record, guys, whenever I mentioned the way that things
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  Speaker 1: are broken down, I never wanted to come across as
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  Speaker 1: like a criticism of y'all's judgment. In breaking it down
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  Speaker 1: this way, I am just sharing the way that I
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  Speaker 1: feel in response to it at the time, because sometimes
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  Speaker 1: it will feel a little odd, and I just think
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  Speaker 1: that it's worth noting this. Okay, let's just start with
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  Speaker 1: the first one, invading the chateau reached the road Ponoglyph,
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  Speaker 1: which I sort of appreciate that we go back and
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  Speaker 1: we spend some time with Pedro and Brooke, because honestly, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: it's not that I forget they're around. It's that I
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  Speaker 1: forget what their mission is. And I completely I will
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  Speaker 1: not lie to you, I completely lost track of the
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  Speaker 1: fact that they were here to take the pony glyph.
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  Speaker 1: I just really forgot about that completely, and I felt
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  Speaker 1: for a moment like, oh, wait ah, right, it was
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  Speaker 1: that's a whole thing for me. Once I was reminded
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  Speaker 1: of this, and I couldn't help but giggle to myself
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know what I thought they were doing.
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  Speaker 1: You know, this wasn't me having established that they were
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  Speaker 1: attempting something else. It was simply me going, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're just trying to get in from another direction to
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  Speaker 1: like take big mom down. I just didn't I didn't
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  Speaker 1: even really think through what I considered them to be doing.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, I uh, the whole thing with them trying
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  Speaker 1: to steal the pony Glyph, it's like, you know, an
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  Speaker 1: assumption that you are simply not going to become King
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  Speaker 1: of the Pirates if you don't have this. And I
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  Speaker 1: am curious if it's going to be that Lufy manages
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  Speaker 1: to get it, or if the story is going to
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  Speaker 1: be Loofy doesn't get it, but he manages to become
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  Speaker 1: King of the Pirates. Anyway, you know what I'm saying, Like,
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  Speaker 1: there's a few ways that that could go. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: just the pony Clyph thing, I just really really want
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  Speaker 1: to care about more. That's where I'm at right now,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. It's not like I think
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  Speaker 1: that it's just got a little bit of that McGuff
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  Speaker 1: and energy and it feels like, Okay, well we've got
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  Speaker 1: to collect these things in order for this thing to
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  Speaker 1: be possible, and that a part of me is just like,
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  Speaker 1: do we have to collect them or else he won't
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  Speaker 1: be able to like, do we? And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: that I'm really being fair. I think that this is
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  Speaker 1: just me. Like there's always this sort of storyline whenever
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  Speaker 1: you've got a person who has this dream that they're
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  Speaker 1: attempting to fulfill, where they believe that there is an
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  Speaker 1: element outside of themselves that's going to get them to
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  Speaker 1: a place where it can happen. And a lot of
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  Speaker 1: times what the message is at the end is you
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  Speaker 1: didn't need that thing. It was inside you all along.
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  Speaker 1: And I genuinely do not know if that's what we're
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  Speaker 1: doing here or if we're if it's just exactly what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like and you really do need these things.
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  Speaker 1: And I can't even tell you which I would prefer.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind either way. If I'm really like stopping
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  Speaker 1: to think about it, I think I'd be good whichever
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  Speaker 1: they went with. But I'm just, you know, trying to
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  Speaker 1: sort of suss out what it is about the whole
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  Speaker 1: thing with the ponoglyphs that isn't really hitting for me.
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  Speaker 1: I think that also with the ponoglyphs is like the
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  Speaker 1: there's a sense of establishing something historically that has happened
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  Speaker 1: in this universe, and we have this also with that,
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  Speaker 1: like missing century. Is that what it's called, you guys.
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  Speaker 1: I've had to remind me of this a few times,
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  Speaker 1: so forgive me sorry about it, guys, but I think
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  Speaker 1: that it has been sort of you know, we're at
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  Speaker 1: episode eight hundred, the Void Century, says Saraphim. Seraphim also says, well,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of need it. The way to become King
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  Speaker 1: of the Pirates is to find the one piece and
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  Speaker 1: the roadponent glyph or the map to where it is. Well,
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  Speaker 1: this is the thing you think you need it. But
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  Speaker 1: if you're doing that other storyline, like that other sort
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  Speaker 1: of moral of the story, I guess that's always how
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  Speaker 1: it seems, that you need something to achieve a thing,
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  Speaker 1: and then it turns out like you don't. That's just
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  Speaker 1: all I'm saying. But the Void Century thing, I believe that.
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  Speaker 1: I think that sometimes the way that Oda decides to
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  Speaker 1: tell a story winds up shooting itself in the foot
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  Speaker 1: a little bit. And I don't know if like I'm
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  Speaker 1: the only one who reacts this way or if it's
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  Speaker 1: the sort of thing that if you've watched the show
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  Speaker 1: many times, it just doesn't really like you kind of
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  Speaker 1: forget the frustration of this if you know certain things already.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, the way that he decides to tell
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  Speaker 1: stories a lot is you see the end result of
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  Speaker 1: a thing, and then hundreds of episodes pass before you
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  Speaker 1: get an explanation why the thing is like that. And
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  Speaker 1: there are things where I feel like that works and
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  Speaker 1: it's fine, like with Sanji's family discovering the way his
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  Speaker 1: childhood worked and why he left and you know, all
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  Speaker 1: of that I really think is a nice surprising reveal
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  Speaker 1: that feels earned. And it feels also like maybe Oda
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  Speaker 1: didn't have every detail nailed down to begin with, but
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like a retcon, like some kinds of
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  Speaker 1: stories can not, even just with one piece. But I
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  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I just saw Seraphim say. Oda has made
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  Speaker 1: very clear this isn't going to be a the real
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  Speaker 1: treasure was the friends we made along the way type situation.
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  Speaker 1: That's good. I mean again, I don't really have a
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  Speaker 1: problem with those types of stories, but you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: nice to know. But anyway, so telling things like out
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  Speaker 1: of order and letting a lot of time pass, letting
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  Speaker 1: things simmer before you actually make your reveal. There are
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  Speaker 1: times when this works really well, and then there are
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  Speaker 1: times where it's like it was for me with Robin.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the way that Robin's story was told
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  Speaker 1: was the right way to go. I just didn't care
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  Speaker 1: about her. By the time we get the reveal of
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with her, I had just sort of
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  Speaker 1: disconnected from her as a character, and I was not
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  Speaker 1: that invested. Everything that was going on with Like rescuing her,
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  Speaker 1: I was fine with in terms of this is just
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  Speaker 1: what the straw hats do, so of course they're not
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  Speaker 1: going to give up on their friend, and I totally
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  Speaker 1: accept that, but it didn't feel like it was I
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  Speaker 1: hadn't grown to care about her the way I have
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  Speaker 1: about Sanjy, and so finding out about Sonji's family felt
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  Speaker 1: very rewarding, whereas with Robin, I was just frustrated with her,
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  Speaker 1: and I wish that we had got and all this
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  Speaker 1: info about her long before we actually did. It's there
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  Speaker 1: are times where I just think that maybe oda overestimates
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  Speaker 1: the affection of viewer is going to have for a
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  Speaker 1: certain character versus what actually happens. And again, it may
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  Speaker 1: just be me, but Robin just failed to matter to me,
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  Speaker 1: and it's gotten a little better, and some of it,
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  Speaker 1: I know, is a translation issue. I regret deeply that
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  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I connect more with Robin just
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  Speaker 1: because she's one of the only women in the show,
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  Speaker 1: you know, so I would like to like her more,
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  Speaker 1: But right now I've just pretty much gotten on me,
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  Speaker 1: and she's the one that I actually feel like has
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  Speaker 1: a personality that feels I don't know, there's just more
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  Speaker 1: to a lot of the other characters, and thus feeling
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  Speaker 1: like I'm finding out what happened with them in the
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  Speaker 1: past impacts me in a way that it just didn't
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  Speaker 1: with her. Ooh, sorry, there's so much chatter I missed.
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  Speaker 1: Florian says, I wish the live action would come out
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  Speaker 1: faster so it would be like a rewatch to you,
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  Speaker 1: but hey, season three is already in the making. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm really looking forward to the live action. The first
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  Speaker 1: season was so great, I just can't wait. Saraphim says, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and if anyone could make that sort of story work
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  Speaker 1: at Soda with this story, that is a very uncommon
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  Speaker 1: reaction to things especially Robin's backstory, says Sarah F. M.
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  Speaker 1: Florian says, I see what you mean. This really is
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  Speaker 1: Oda's writing style. I realize I like it, but your
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  Speaker 1: points are valid. Not any author is perfect, I guess, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and like this this style it works sometimes, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I just like Sonji's thing. I think also the
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  Speaker 1: reveal with Lola herself and this being her mother that
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  Speaker 1: works because it's not really something that you're like looking for.
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  Speaker 1: You sort of forget it, and then you know, this
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  Speaker 1: bomb gets dropped, and this episode you find out also
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  Speaker 1: that Big Mom does not give a fuck for Lola.
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  Speaker 1: So I think that waiting a time for reveals on
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  Speaker 1: things can be effective, but I just don't think it's
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  Speaker 1: always the right call. And for me, the whole thing
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  Speaker 1: with the Pony Glyphs and the Void Century, it's so
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  Speaker 1: vague and nothing. You know, we have this whole storyline
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  Speaker 1: with Robin's past and how they're trying to wipe out
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  Speaker 1: this information and anybody who can even like translate the information,
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  Speaker 1: and then we get exactly nothing about any of that
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  Speaker 1: for like five hundred episodes, you know, and I'm just
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  Speaker 1: I've lost interest at this point. You've got to start
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  Speaker 1: doing something with that that feels like you even remember
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  Speaker 1: it as a plot point, because for me as a viewer,
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  Speaker 1: as soon as you start to bring it back up,
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  Speaker 1: it's lost all its momentum. And so the ponyglyph aspect
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  Speaker 1: of everything in this it just feels like it's something
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  Speaker 1: put into the story to give characters a thing to
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  Speaker 1: search for. But I don't personally give a shit about it,
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  Speaker 1: even inasmuch as it's like, oh, you need this to
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  Speaker 1: be the King of the Pirates. It's like, even so,
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  Speaker 1: the I want to be King of the Pirates thing
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  Speaker 1: really doesn't matter to me that much either. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you guys a secret, because I I'm here for
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  Speaker 1: the ride. I don't care about Like, if Lufy ever
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  Speaker 1: gets to be King of the Pirates, it will be
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  Speaker 1: a very much a secondary thing for me. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: so happy for him, of course it's great, but like,
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  Speaker 1: do I want to risk tons of shit to get there?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the point, obviously, that's the story, is
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  Speaker 1: that we're risking everything so that he can become King
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  Speaker 1: of the Pirates. Yeah, sure, allegedly that's the story, but
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  Speaker 1: like it really the story is Lufy always wants to
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  Speaker 1: help people, and he always is loyal to his friends,
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  Speaker 1: and every step of this story has only incidentally made
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  Speaker 1: him closer to becoming King of the Pirates, but has
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  Speaker 1: mostly been about I'm taking down the next highest bad
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  Speaker 1: guy that I have just run into because they are
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  Speaker 1: doing something personally to me that I don't like, And
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  Speaker 1: I have zero problem with that. For the record, this
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  Speaker 1: is what I want. That's exactly what I'm here for.
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  Speaker 1: But it makes it so that when there's things like
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  Speaker 1: this that happen, I'm just sort of like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you find the plonoglyph? Whatever, can we get back to
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  Speaker 1: like Big Mom and Loofy talking on the phone, you
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  Speaker 1: know that kind of thing. Florian says, one hundred percent
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  Speaker 1: there with you about the King of the Pirates. It works,
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  Speaker 1: but this is not what my ass gets into the
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  Speaker 1: seat to watch. Yeah, Seraphim says, there's a difference between
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  Speaker 1: difference between the real ponoglyphs, the ones that have information
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  Speaker 1: about the void century and the ancient weapons and the
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  Speaker 1: road ponoglyphs, the ones that map out where to find rafttail.
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  Speaker 1: Is it Raftail? I thought it was laugh like haha,
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  Speaker 1: like Laughtail is it raftail I have been saying, I
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  Speaker 1: was saying the wrong thing this whole time, seraphim. There
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  Speaker 1: being a difference between the ponoglyphs doesn't matter. Like maybe
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  Speaker 1: it does eventually, but to me at this point, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. They're all part of like the same lore,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, And so that's the thing
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  Speaker 1: that I'm saying, like, just doesn't it doesn't feel materially
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  Speaker 1: involved with the story. So it just sort of grinds
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  Speaker 1: to a halt for me in that respect, And it
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  Speaker 1: just feels like we're giving our characters something to do.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, to a degree, that's also fine. We
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  Speaker 1: gotta give our carry you, you know, if this happens.
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  Speaker 1: But I just wish there was a little bit more
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  Speaker 1: of this sprinkled more consistently throughout things in terms of
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  Speaker 1: it being actual information that enlightens us as like the
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  Speaker 1: way it was structured and the way like clues as
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  Speaker 1: to what the Void century could have to do with
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  Speaker 1: or you know, because all we ever really get is
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  Speaker 1: the mention of them when it's something that our friends
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  Speaker 1: need to find, and we rarely do we get information
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  Speaker 1: about what the conspiracy overall, is it's just information about
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  Speaker 1: like this particular ponoglyph and what it says, or the
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  Speaker 1: ponoglyph that we need to find the island and what
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  Speaker 1: that means. It's all very immediate and very relevant to
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  Speaker 1: that situation. But I would like a bit more theorizing
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  Speaker 1: about the Void Century, even if it more cr actual
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  Speaker 1: information that we're getting. I wouldn't mind some like conversation
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  Speaker 1: between our characters about what the Void Century is, some
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  Speaker 1: theorizing Robin sharing the things that she has learned, or
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  Speaker 1: theories that the people she used to know came up
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  Speaker 1: with what she thinks they're trying to hide. There's just
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  Speaker 1: a sense of like the characters not really giving a
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  Speaker 1: fuck about it either, you know. And that's the part
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  Speaker 1: that I think is a shame, because it could be
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  Speaker 1: a really interesting conspiracy and hole in history that keeps
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  Speaker 1: coming up, and it's just so sporadic and it's it's
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  Speaker 1: it is sort of, oh, that's during the voids, you know, Grey,
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  Speaker 1: we don't know what happened, and there's no sense of like,
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  Speaker 1: how could they erase this? How could they do this? Why?
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  Speaker 1: You know? I don't there's not really like that outrage
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  Speaker 1: to go with it. So I just I want I
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  Speaker 1: like the concept of it. I just don't think he's
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  Speaker 1: doing all that much with it, and I am worried
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  Speaker 1: about eventually if it becomes more relevant, is it still
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  Speaker 1: is it gonna grab me? Or am I gonna kind
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  Speaker 1: of feel like? Ugh? I guess you know. Laurence says,
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  Speaker 1: I'm used to raftail because that's the German one as well.
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  Speaker 1: Seraphim says it's the whole Japanese r L interchangeability thing, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I like, even if it's an L laftail, I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sure that this is like correct, because sometimes subtitles they'll
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: they use AI for them a lot now, and so
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  Speaker 1: sometimes they will be spelled in a way that's not
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  Speaker 1: actually like what was intended. But one of the characters
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  Speaker 1: references laftail at one point, and it says la ug
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  Speaker 1: h space ta l e. So I've been thinking that
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  Speaker 1: it's literally the two words laughtail, But now I'm realizing,
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  Speaker 1: like that just might have been a subtitle error or something. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Note to self, I personally prefer rafttail just because it
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  Speaker 1: sounds like a name more than two random words, and
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  Speaker 1: I think that it feels more like distinctive to me.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm willing to just go with raftail from now on.
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  Speaker 1: I hope I remember to do that. Okay. So picking
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  Speaker 1: up the first of these two episodes, episode eight twelve,
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  Speaker 1: invading the Chateau, reached the road pon a glyph, and
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  Speaker 1: we have Sanjy in his room alone lighting a cigarette
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  Speaker 1: and I think he's using this like jeweled lighter. This
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  Speaker 1: thing is I can't remember if this is something that
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: he's always had or if it's just something that because
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: he now is living this life of a royal, it's
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  Speaker 1: like even my lighter is over the top, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But he is thinking through all of what he has
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  Speaker 1: gone through and his friends have gone through, and we
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: don't get the conclusion of this thought process here, but
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  Speaker 1: we do a little bit later. So I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to go through it all. He is thinking through how
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: bending to the will of his father and Big Mom
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  Speaker 1: at least is going to keep his friends from getting killed,
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  Speaker 1: and that, in the end is all he really cares about.
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  Speaker 1: He just wants to do whatever he can to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that nobody dies, and as far as he is concerned,
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  Speaker 1: if he gets that outcome, it's worth it to just
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: get married. It's fine, and we do have a kind
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: of amazing moment later on where he's thinking about pudding
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  Speaker 1: and the fact that she has kind of made a
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: vow I guess that she isn't going to make his
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: life hell as his wife. And we finally get the
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  Speaker 1: old Sanji back for a moment of him and his
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  Speaker 1: heart eyes and just falling all over himself because he
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: loves her so much. I am not going to lie
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  Speaker 1: to you all. It was so lovely. I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: how much I missed lovey dovey, soanjy until we got
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  Speaker 1: to see him again. He's just been so sad and
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  Speaker 1: so serious, you know, And the moment that he's just
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  Speaker 1: like you deserve everything, I was like, oh, he's back,
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you know. And I know that it's it's likely going
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: to come and go for a time, but I still,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: just for the record, this is what I wanted so
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: much between him and putting, just because I love them
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: as a pair and I wish all the best for them,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: and I hope this doesn't go away. So that's pretty
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: much what's going on with him, is just struggling with
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: this decision and whether it's the right thing to do.
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: And eventually he seems to really settle on that it
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: was the right thing to do, that he is being
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: responsible by choosing something difficult and sacrificing his own happiness
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: potentially for his friends, even though it's possible it's not
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: sacrificing his own happiness. It's possible that he will be
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: happy in this marriage potentially, but it's of course he's
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: sacrificing his membership with the straw Hats, so you know,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: mileage may vary there. I just I really like this
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: direction that the story is going in that what if
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the marriage weren't so bad? Actually, what if doing this
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: wasn't the awful punishment that it could have been? Had
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: to put this whole thing, He could have gone in
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a different direction, you know. And if you don't have
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: as big a problem with the actual woman that you're
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: being set up to marry, then how bad is it really?
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And who knows? Because honestly, I'm really still not sure,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: like how much to trust anything. Big Mom says, we
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: have obviously Loofy and Nami gripped up this episode, and
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the whole deal that he made with Big Mom was
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: that I will cooperate with this marriage as long as
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: you let my friends go. Well, she hasn't done that.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: They are fucking pinned to a board like a pair
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: of butterflies. She has not let them go. So I
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: am not sure if this is like, oh, this is
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: a temporary thing until she does the wedding and then
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: she's going to release them. It feels like the way
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: that she's talking about it is that she plans to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: keep them forever, but she doesn't explicitly say that. So,
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: you know, guys like I just feel like I don't
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: have a good grasp on Big Mom's attitude about stuff overall,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: and because of that, everything that every judgment I want
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: to make or guess that I want to make is
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: very salted with doubt. So anyway, Yeah, this, uh, the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: thing with Nammy and Loofy being pinned up, it's sort
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: of weird because the way that this is done, it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: like they're pinned in this book, but also they are
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: in a cell. It's like they're pinned the way they
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: would be in this book. But I'm not really clear
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: on exactly how this works. I'm gonna be honest. However,
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: I do love the idea of Big Mom like taking
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: freaks of nature, so to speak, and keeping them as
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: like live specimens. It's so creepy, you guys, it's so creepy.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: I really like this. It's just it's so unnerving. It
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: makes so much sense for like who she is, and
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: there's a there's just a vibe to it of it
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: tying in with her alleged Oh. I just want all
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: of us to be like living equally as different races together.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: That's all I've ever wanted. There's just I knew that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: there was something about that energy that felt like, really
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: and here is a kind of it's not even an
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: undermining of it, it's just it's pointing out the way
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: that she sees people who are different is still very othering,
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: you know. And there's also the weirdness of there not
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: being any giants around, which is pointed out by Judge.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And I'm really curious about that one because Judge I
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: couldn't get I couldn't tell if Judge was asking because
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: he knows the answer and he is needling her, or
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: if he genuinely doesn't realize that this is a sort
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: of sore spot. But it seemed really clear to me
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: from the way Big Mom reacts that he touched on
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: something that she doesn't want to address or talk about,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: and you know, I can't help but like be surprised
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: once he points this out. The whole thing had been
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to make people bigger with this like
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: potion that Caesar was working on. But now we're hearing
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: that there are no giants at all. So what's the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: deal exactly? You know, Like I can't I can't tell
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: what that is about. I genuinely feel like I like
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the answer is right there in front of me, Like
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: if I just stopped and really thought, I could probably
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: put it together. And the only thing I can think
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of is that naturally occurring giants don't appeal to her
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for some reason that she wants giants that are that
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: she gets to choose who is her size and who isn't.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: But why, like what even if she would like to
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: do that refusing giants' access to the island, which I
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: have to assume is what she does if there's none around,
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: why would she do that? I just don't know, you guys,
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: I didn't notice that, being there are so many people
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: in this universe who are very very tall or weirdly shaped,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: you know, there's lots of that, So there are plenty
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: of times where I don't notice there's no giants, because
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: the whole idea of giants is sort of it's nebulous
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in this universe, you know. And we've got Pound out
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: in the Seducing Woods who looked like he was a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: giant because he just had a huge head. But then
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: he like climbs up out of this hole and it
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: turns out he's just got basically an ordinary body. So,
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: you know, there's there's been a lot of weird hints
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: and references to their being giants, and I just don't
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: know what any of it means, and I'm kind of
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: racking my brains and I've got nothing. So anyway, Uh,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: I just I can't tell. I think Judge doesn't know
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: what it is he's doing the nest that he's poking
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: when he asks this question. I think that he is
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: unaware there's something specific happening here, and he's just making
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: an observation, and it's sort of like, oh, I thought
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: it was interesting that there's no giants here. What's that about?
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: But it's clear from the way that she reacts to
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: him that she has something specific going on with that.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Let's see, I'm trying to jump around here. There's a
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: bunch of chatter. Sorry, guys. Florian says, I like the
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: two episodes since we get to talk about things like this, ponent,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: glyphs and such. That's fair. Yeah. I mean like I'm
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: already half an hour in and I haven't talked about
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: the actual summary of the episodes too much, so seems
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like it was a good call to break it down
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: this way. Serfim says, Yeah, it's nice to see him
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: being himself. For all, he flirts with anything with boobs
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and a pulse. You know, he'll treat putting right if
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: they do go through with this. Yes, it's the scarecrow
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: looking guy's book book fruit. Oh right, right, right right,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: That's how it is. I keep forgetting about that guy
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: because he even says like at the beginning of that scene,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: you're here because of me, and I just I think
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: that the fact that he looks like a scarecrow just
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: keeps throwing me off, you know what I'm saying, because
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: like it doesn't feel like it goes together that he
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: can do this, but looks the way that he does.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: And this happens sometimes with one piece characters. There are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: some folks who their whole look all sort of like
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: there's a theme to it that you can see, and
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: then there are times where they have a bunch of weird,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: disconnected but very distinct. I feel like there was somebody
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: and I still remember this because I think it bothered
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: me at the time, but there was somebody who was
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: part of like the baroque pirates, and she had some ability,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: but her whole aesthetic was like frogs, and I couldn't
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: figure out the connection between her like devil fruit ability
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and frogs, and it just like didn't make sense. I
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: can't remember exactly how that went. Oh Saraphim, says per Oda.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: In order to count as a giant, someone has to
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: be at least ten meters tall, which is roughly like
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: one hundred feet or no, that's roughly thirty feet, right.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: Big Mom comes in at eight point eight eight. Okay,
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: so she's not even really a giant. Interesting is it?
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Maybe if she's smaller than most giants that she just
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: doesn't want to be outsized by people. I wonder if
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: that's like, if it's purely an ego thing that she
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: wants to be the biggest one. You know what I'm saying.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's like, I wouldn't. I wouldn't
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: think that would be an issue when she has the
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: fucking ability that she has. But some people get hung
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: up on weird stuff. So maybe she wants to be
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: able to turn other people into giants to hang out,
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: but like not as big as giant giants, or not
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: as big as even her just big enough. I don't know.
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: Florian says, miss Father's Day, the frog girl, we miss you. Yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: what was her ability, Florie? Do you remember? Because it
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: was something that like, I feel like it didn't. You know.
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: I tend to be able to remember what people's abilities
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: are based on their esthetic or like something about their
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: overall vibe. And there are occasionally characters that I'm genuinely like,
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: I can't keep track of this because none of this
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: seems to connect to each other. But yeah, so I'm
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: just gonna I'm gonna jump to this conversation that Lufy
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: has with Big Mom. I know that I'm skipping some
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: other things, and I will double back, I promise. But
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: he just really is so used to playing on the
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: egos of for lack of a better way of saying this,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: more small time pirates that simply goating them and being like, oh,
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: you're just too afraid to face me. Has worked super
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: well for him and he thinks he can do that
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: with her, And oh my god, I'm so sorry, guys,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I just got distracted. Florian says Miss Father's Day had
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: no power. She was just weird. Oh my god, that
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: is so funny. Okay. Saraphim says she didn't have a power.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Her and her partner just had that weird gun thing
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: where they shot and patterned with each other. Maybe that
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: was what it was, was that she dressed so distinctively.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I thought there should be a power, and then when
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: she didn't have, when I was fucking mystified. I bet
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: that's what it was. Okay, Well, guys, I appreciate you
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: letting me know. Anyway, getting back to Big Mom talking
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: to Louviy, Here's here's where I come down on this,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: and this this is gonna be. This is gonna be
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: one of those times where like, I become uncomfortable with
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: the fact that I am relating to a villain as
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: much as I do. But Big Mom has a fucking
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: wedding a plan. Do you know how much time that takes?
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Do you understand the fucking effort involved. If you've never
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: planned a wedding, you have no earthly idea. You can't
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: you cannot know, because there are more things than you
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: could ever conceive of if you haven't actually done it,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that pop up and go wrong and whatever. And this
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: little shit that doesn't want his friend to get married
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: and turns up and is just like, fight me. I
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: think not. I have a seven pm appointment with a florist.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: I have a tasting at five, and it's across town,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: so I don't know how I'm getting to the florist
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: on time. And Pudding brought me this hideous fucking dress
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: that she wants to wear, and I don't think so
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I picked the dress already, She's gonna wear what I
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: fucking picked. I don't want to have this argument again,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: you know, I just really get it. She's busy, she's
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: got guests already arrived on the island that she's managing,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: she's got a feed and house all these people. No, no, no, no,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: no no no. We do not have time for this
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: little rubber asshole to just drag me into a fight
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the night before the like, no, I am not gonna
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: be in fucking wedding photos with a black eye that
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: I had to use cover girl on, you know what
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: I mean. So I also like the fact that eventually
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: somebody does straight up say to Loofy, you don't have
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: any bargaining chips, bro, like you're behaving as if you
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: have something that you can offer her, or like somehow
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: strong arm her into fighting you. You don't, You're caught.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: It's over. And that was sort of what I had
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: expected it to be, more like when it was Soanjy.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: I think that the only thing because I said at
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: the time, I was sort of like, can't they just
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: make him do it? But I think that really what
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it is is Big Mom doesn't want a scene. She
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: wants things to go smoothly, and if Sonji is gonna
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: throw a fucking fit, it's just gonna make the whole
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: thing awkward and uncomfortable. And yes, I could still go
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: through with the wedding and make this happen, but it's
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: going to feel awkward and strange, and it's going to
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: be a spectacle. And I just want a fun party
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: because based on what I understand about Big Mom, she
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: really just loves a party. She likes to host people
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: and wants every buddy to just you know, enjoy themselves.
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it makes some sense that actually it's not
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: about like just forcing him to marry this girl. It's like,
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: I don't want it to be a whole thing that
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: you're up there and you let everybody know you didn't
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: want to be here or make Putting feel bad, you know.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: And we get a brief moment with Putting where she
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: there's like a woman who I sort of interpreted as
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: being like her nurse maid from when she was little,
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: and she is talking to Putting about like the dress
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: that Putting picked out that got rejected by Big Mom.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: I am dying to see this, by the way, guys,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I really want to see both the dress the big
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Mom picked and the dress that Putting picked and Putting
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: is going through with this. And you know, I got
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: very focused on the fact that she was into Sonji,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: and so the fact of whether she actually had wanted
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: to get married to begin with, it didn't even really
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: occur to me because she was so on board by
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the time our friends arrived, because she had met Soanji
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: and she liked him that I let any previous what's
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: the word I want misgivings that she might have had
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: sort of go unexamined, and I let them fall to
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: the wayside. But what we get in this episode is
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: really really interesting because it's na Me talking to Big
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Mom as well, and Big Mom assumes that Nami killed
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Lola because that's what everybody is telling her happen. And
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: it's so funny because Nami is very quick to be like, what,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: no idea because she thinks Big Mom is going to
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: be mad, But it seems in retrospect that Big Mom
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: might have rewarded her. Actually, if she had killed Lola,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: if she claimed that she had, it probably would have
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: all gone better for them than it does. And she
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: tells Big Mom about how Lola gave her a piece
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: of the Viver card because they were such friends and YadA, YadA,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: and Big Mom is disgusted and she says, I can't
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: believe that she even still considers herself part of this family.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: She refused to get married when I told her how
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: it was going to be. She dug in her heels
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: and give me all kinds of problems. And she has
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: the fucking nerve to use that Viver card and hand
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: it out as a favor to people like I owe
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: her anything. I wish she was dead. I wish she
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: was fucking dead. I'd prefer that because she disobeyed me,
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: and as far as I am concerned, that is the
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: worst thing that a child can do is disobey their parent,
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So fuck that bitch. In summary, she is livid. It's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: the first time that we've really seen big moms seriously angry.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: She's been like annoyed and pissed, but there's always been
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a certain composure to her because she has that complacency
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: that you have when you are so certain nobody is
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: going to get out of the trap you set, or
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: that you have enough power that they aren't going to
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: be able to get past your guards or whatever. She's
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: always even when things have not been going quite well
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: for her, she's been mostly composed, and this is the
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: first time that you really see her kind of lose
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: her temper a little bit and just be like, I
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: can't believe the nerve. And when we see like the
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: flashbacks with Nami, I had forgotten about how Lola is
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: asking everybody she meets to marry her, but now it
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: makes a lot more sense because she that was like
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: the focus of her decision to leave Big Mom is
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: that she wanted to determine who she married, and she says,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: as she's leaving to Pudding because apparently they were somewhat close,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: don't worry, Mama, never kill me. I'm family, which, as
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: we have seen, does not mean too Big Mom what
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: apparently she thinks it means. And I don't know if
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: she has any idea how her mother feels about her now.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: She seems to think, if I go off and I
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: if I abandon my duty so to speak, of marrying
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: who Big Mom picks out, it will be seen as
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: a sort of a rascalish thing to do. I think
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: she was under the impression that this just wouldn't be
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: that big a deal and she could come home with
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: whatever husband and it would be fine, and that she
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: doesn't understand just how betrayed Big Mom feels. I don't
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: get the impression that she had any idea, or she
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: wouldn't have given Nomi the Viver card and she wouldn't
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: have talked about Big Mom as like somebody that she
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: can still rely on. So my assumption is that Lola
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: really does know. And I feel a little bit bad
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: about that, because, like I just the idea that she's
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: so confident. I'm always like, it doesn't really matter the context.
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Whenever somebody is certain that they are going to be
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: treated a certain way or received a certain way, and
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: we know that it's not going to go the way
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: they expect, it's just really uncomfortable and sad from the
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: outside to see that, you know. So, I as much
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: as it's not like I want big Mom to like,
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say I want her to be
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: nicer to her daughter because it's just not going to happen.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: It's unreasonable, whatever, but I just hate knowing that Lila's
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: out there thinking a thing and that if she were
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: to come home, her mom might actually kill her herself.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: Like that's pretty awful, you know what I'm saying. Anyway,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: So let me go to Putting. At one point with
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: this nurse, the nurse is telling her about the dress
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: getting rejected, and we have Putting's own flashback about her
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: is it her sister? Technically? I guess who is running away?
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: And Lila says to Putting, I just want to choose
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: who I marry. One day, you'll understand. And it feels
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: like now Putting does understand, and it's just dumb luck honestly,
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: that the person Big Mom wants her to marry is
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: also the person she herself would like to marry. It
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: just fucking worked out. But she's not getting to choose
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: anything about the wedding. She doesn't even get to choose
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: the dress that she gets married in. And how just
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: so much of her personal choice has been taken away
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: in the process of all of this. Even despite that
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: it may ultimately be who she wants to marry, you know,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: there's still, like clearly a little bit of resentment in there,
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: it seems like, and we also hear Big Mom telling her,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: just think of yourself as my doll, and that's what
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: you are, because I'm going to dress you up and
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: do what you know, choose what happens, and you just
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: have to do what you're told. And it's really like,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: it seems like Putting is having more feelings about that
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: than I realized. She seemed so accepting even as she
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: was going to help Sonji escape. I was just tying
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: that up entirely in her wanting to do something good
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: for Sonjy because she cares about him. But now it's
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: looking like maybe her willingness to help him was more
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: related to remembering her sister and how having a choice
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: in who she married mattered to her sister, and that
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: she doesn't want Sanji in this position as well, you know.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I just I'm interested in this development, and
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, how much difference this is
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: going to make ultimately, because like I said, we know
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: she wants to marry Soanji. That's not really the problem.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: So I am going to be watching with interest to
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: see if there comes a point where she just decides
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: to draw aline and be like, no, I get to
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: at least choose this thing. You know, the scene isn't
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: really her responding to the nurse. It's just the nurse
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: telling her something and her walking away thinking over events
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: of the past and reflecting on what she has come
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: to accept and the way that Lola reacted and all
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: of that. So there's a lot that's like unsaid and
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: I'm still not certain about, but I'm very curious about
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: all of it. So, Okay, I'm trying to get to
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: this spot. Okay, the other thing that I need to
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: talk about, and I'm actually I'm not going to talk
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: about it for all that long, but because it's not
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: resolved within these episodes, but I'll just head down that
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: path briefly. Is what's going on with Chopper and Carrot
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: because they are luring Brulai into some kind of trap.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: They are setting up a plan, and Chopper has allowed
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: himself to get put into restraints while in a different
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: form so that he can break out of those restraints
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: really easily when the time comes. And we don't actually
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: see that happen, but the whole thing is like relay.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: It's being threatened that she's going to be put into
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: a soup because she's a rabbit and they are convinced
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: that it will be delicious. I just I couldn't help
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: but laugh a little bit at this whole thing because
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: it's part of the plan apparently that Chopper is operating with.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: And there's that alligator guy who's like a knife and
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: fork and like practically has a napkin tucked into his
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: collar as he's ready to like eat up. But there's
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: so many things that Chopper says that lead to this
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Alley being like, oh that doesn't sound so tasty. Actually,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: maybe I don't want to eat her, and like he's
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: just reflecting a lot on whether or not this you know,
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: like he kind of waffles back and forth on whether
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: he even wants this to happen. He's not super committed,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: to be honest, all things considered, But we sort of
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: leave things off with them just you know, with Chopper
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: preparing to do whatever it is he's going to do,
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: but we don't actually know what the plan is and
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: we don't see him execute the plan, and I am
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: this whole subplot it's sort of a weird combo of
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: like it feels so disconnected from everything else because everybody
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: else is in the castle at this point that I'm
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: sort of like, I just want my guys to catch
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: up with everyone else. But I also really do like Brulet,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: and she's making these weird copies the two of them
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: that are unconvincing and keep fucking up, which is funny.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: So the whole subplot with Chopper and Carrot, it's I
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: think it's just suffering from like I find Carrot kind
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: of boring. I love Chopper and I'm excited that he
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: is doing something both with his powers and also with
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: his brain because he's smart and he doesn't usually get
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: to be in charge of the plan. So I think
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: that once I find out exactly what it is he's
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: got up his sleeve. I'll be more engaged in this part.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: As of right now, I'm just sort of about it.
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: I also do low key miss the Seducing Woods as
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: a setting. We're inside the Mirror World for a lot
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: of this, and it's just less interesting. The Woods was cool,
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: we had weird homies, we have like strange things walking around,
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: and the mirror world is just it was cool at first,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: but it's become a little bit one note now. So
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: we'll just have to see how all this goes down.
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: I'm curious about it, all right, So let's talk about
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: what Chopper discovers because or not Chopper, sorry Brooke, he
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: is using that ability that he has to like disconnect
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: from his body to go into the room with all
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: of the UH commanders and spy and he sees that
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: the Pona glyphs. It's not the commander, sorry, but there
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: are some significant people. No, no, no, Smoothie is a commander, right, Okay,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Smoothie. Let's talk about Smoothie, because holy shit,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: I had been trying to theorize what Smoothie's ability could
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: be and I just wasn't coming up with very much.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: And it's like, like minor quibble, smoothies aren't juicing fruits,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: they're actually blending fruits like the whole fruit. So this
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: doesn't quite really count. If we're really really going to
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: be an asshole about it, I don't care. It's fine.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Her ability evidently is that she can pick up victims
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: and ring them like a fucking dish cloth and yank
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: all of the life force out of them and consume
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: it like a beverage. You guys, this, first of all,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: this is very similar in a way to Big Mom's power.
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: And I'm not sure if I'm reading it right that
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: she's like consuming their life force, but it seems to
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: be pretty close to what's going on. And the way
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: that she like picks these people up, it's literally with
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: her two hands, picks them up and twists them over
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: a glass, and it's pretty like it's I don't even
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: want to say that it's gruesome exactly, because what seeps
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: out of them isn't blood. It's like, uh a orange,
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: it's blood ish, but it's much more juice, like you know,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: I'm I don't think it's just blood that she's drinking.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: In other words, and I don't know if it's that
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: her power manages to sort of transform their body fluid
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: into something else as it comes out, because like it's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: leaving her body looking like a different substance than blood
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: from the start. But oh my god, that is such
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: a creepy moment, especially because we don't know what the
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: woman who got twisted up even did. There's just a
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: sense of Smoothie being excited to do this. She smiles
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: about it and seems like this is super fun for her.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: You know, it's extremely unnerving, I think in part because
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: there's no anger along with it. There's no sense of
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: like I am doing this and putting a sort of
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: face on it as if it's justice for some transgression
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: or punishment or you know, like which it may be,
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: but it's not mentioned. We just kind of walk into
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the scene midway. So Smoothie also has a really weird
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: sort of design to her, and I Am not going
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: to be able to describe it adequately because there's not
• 57:13
  Speaker 1: I know, this is gonna say, it's gonna sound like
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying there are simply no words, but like there's
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: literally not a good way to talk about the look
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: that she's got certain things are really like her hat.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: It's almost like one of those very pouchy rasta hats,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: except the pouch goes on either side of her head
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: instead of going toward the back her legs. It's like
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: she's got knee high boots, but the boots really resemble
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: goblets but are like highly decorated. She's got a giant sword.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I think that she's got like slung over her back,
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: and a tattoo on one thigh of like a rose,
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: like a real old school rose tattoo you would see
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: from like, you know, nineteen thirty. There's just a lot
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: about her look that is so excuse me, unusual in
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: terms of like shape, that I don't really know how
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: to talk about it. I don't have a good sense
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: of her personality. Really, this is the only thing I've seen,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: and it's just her basically being happy to kill somebody
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: and wring their body. So I can pretty much assume
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: that she is a real piece of work. But otherwise
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: I don't really know much about her. And Brooke is
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: poking his head in here, and by that I mean
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: his spirit watching this whole thing, and this is when
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: he hears about how Pedro actually used to be one
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: of their number and betrayed them, and that like when
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Brooke goes back to talk to Pedro, Pedro acknowledges this,
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: and Brooke is like, okay, so whatever it is we're
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: gonna do, we're gonna have to use you as bait.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: And Pedro is fully on board with this idea and
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: is like, actually, yeah, I had already thought of that,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: and that's what I was gonna say. So so we
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: have like a short scene of Pedro he has like
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: lured a couple of dudes into a hallway where they
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: discover a bunch of the pawn guards who have already
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: been taken out and like piled up, and they're making
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Pedro very much like the face of the who's broken
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: into the castle and his wreaking havoc. It seems nobody
• 59:48
  Speaker 1: is aware Brook is even here. All they know is
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: that Pedro is here, and it seems to them that
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Pedro is doing this like to get back at them
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: on a personal level. They don't know anything about what
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: his actual goal is. He and the second episode ends
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: with Brooke about to do his thing, and we get
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: a real fun like prelude to it of him being
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: like ladies and gentlemen coming at You live from Home,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: Cake Island, and I was very into it. I really
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: really liked this as like the introduction to the moment
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: that Brooke is going to be fighting. Everybody has their
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: own sort of way that they get introduced because it
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: happens usually this way, where there's a build up for
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: the whole episode, and then we have the person who's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: really going to fight standing there, and then the end
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: and the next episode will be when the fight starts.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: And usually the feeling of they're just standing there so
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: that the camera can scan over them while we wait
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: for the end, it feel a little bit like almost awkward,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: like all right, you're just standing there, you know. There's
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: a feeling of like like a strange silence that feels
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: like it needs something. But because he has this like
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: stage persona thing and he can say that while he's prepping,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: it fills that dead space and it makes it feel
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: a lot more natural that he's just sort of standing there,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: because this is what you do before you go out
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: on stage. You like take a second and you breathe
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: and you get in your headspace, you know, And so
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: I just feel like it worked a lot better for
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: Brooke than it does for a lot of characters. So yeah,
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: I'm really really looking forward to seeing what it is
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: that Brooke does, because the whole thing is they're just
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: trying to take a rubbing of the ponic life. Obviously,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: they're not going to try and steal like the whole
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: fucking thing because they can't. So it's not an impossible mission.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: It's just that there's so much security. They have to
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: find a way to get everybody to distracted and in
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: a different place. Doable, but very risky, and so how
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: does Brooke pull it off? I'm looking forward to it.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: All right, I have to wrap up, but thank you
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: guys again for hanging out. Appreciate you all and appreciate
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: you bearing with me when I forget things and reminding me.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: And I will see you soon with a new episode.
• 1:02:24
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