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Episode 16: Mclane Arballo · Random Ass Dudes Podcast

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Clicked in Yeah. There you go.
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Now we're locked in. Yeah, we're ready to go, I hear.
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Right on. We're ready to go, man.
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Very cool. So we got McLean Arbalo out
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here, right? Is am I saying the last name?
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Correctly. How do I arbaio?
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Arbaio. Arbaio 2 LS in Spanish make AY
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sound. There you go.
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So you are Hispanic? Yes, Sir.
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Like full half, half, half. Yep, Yep.
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My dad is Spanish and yeah, well, Mexican, but yeah.
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How long, how long have you guys been in Arizona?
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You're So we moved here. I was born in Albuquerque and we
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moved here. My brother is 19, so 19 years
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ago. My mom was pregnant with him
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when we moved here. Nice.
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Yeah. My dad got a job building the
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hotel right next to the Cardinal Stadium.
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I think he helped on the Cardinal Stadium, too.
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I don't know. But yeah, that's where we moved.
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That's awesome, man. Yeah, so we got in contact from
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the night we were out at Dylan's and we were watching and you
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were, you were. What event do you do in Rodeo
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now? I steer, I team rope too but I
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mainly bulldog. Yeah.
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And that was what we saw. And I think I reached out to you
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that night, yeah, through social media and we got to talking and
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chatting and we were actually supposed to do this a couple
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weeks ago. And then we have had some things
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come up as far as this place flooded during that last
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rainstorm. So I did a bunch of work out
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here. But no, it's good to finally get
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you on and kind of hear your story and what you got going on.
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So tell us a little bit about yourself.
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Oh, man, I don't know how I feel like, I don't know.
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I, we moved here, my dad bulldogged, you know, we've
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always been in the horses and rodeo and stuff.
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And yeah, we, once we moved here, I mean, we, my dad, we
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moved out to Whitman and he we got well, I mean, we always had
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horses and he knew some guys around here, the Bulldogs.
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So we kind of never really missed a beat once we got here,
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kind of hit the. Ground So how?
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How old were you when you started steer wrestling?
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I was thir. Well, I was 13 when I started
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jumping. I was probably 11 when I started
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throwing them on the ground. What does that mean by jumping?
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So, you know when you jump like you jump off the horse?
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Yeah. So you weren't just bringing
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them down, you were just jumping on them and just getting off.
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No. So I started throwing them on
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the ground. That's like shoot, dogging them,
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like just grabbing them, throwing them down when I was
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probably 10 or 11. OK.
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And then yeah, I started actually jumping them when I was
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13. So my dad wanted me to wait till
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I was 16, but my buddy had a good Black Horse and there was
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no way that I was not going to do it all.
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Yeah, and I already like before that, I've made bulldog and
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horses. We used to set up a dummy and
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just run past it when we were kids, and my dad would sell them
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for bulldog and horses. I'd be so mad at me.
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Yeah, I remember that. His name was Joe Daddy.
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Who was the first one? How cool is that?
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Yeah. So how long was it that you were
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like, learning to do it before you started actually rodeoing?
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Like pro rodeon, I got my, well, I got my permit when I was in
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college, like my freshman year in college, I actually went to
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New Mexico State on a rodeo scholarship down there.
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And then yeah, we I got my permit then I think my rookie
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year was 2020, COVID year, which sucked.
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That was the worst, no? Fans.
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No fans. And then, man, the rodeos were
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tough. They would have.
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Yeah, they'd have 200 guys entered at a normal rodeo that
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you know what I mean? And they'd have 5 steers that
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you could be fast on and the rest were whatever they could
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find. So you didn't get one of them
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fast ones. It was tough back then.
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So yeah, that was my rookie year.
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We went, we went pretty hard that year too.
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I mean, we went, I went everywhere.
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I went Sikes to Missouri, Cross at Arkansas, Montana, North
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Dakota, I mean everywhere that year.
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It was a lot of fun. And that was your rookie year,
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correct? Yeah, my rookie year, yeah, we
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lived in Texas, 'cause there's only so many places that had
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rodeos, you know, and Arizona had the first one back Cave
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Creek, and then, I mean, Texas had some Missouri places like
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that, but New Mexico didn't have any for a while.
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California, they started having them in like October that year.
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Yeah. It's like they didn't have
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Albuquerque, of course, but they had Santa Fe.
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Yeah, they got some crazy politics over there.
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I was actually, I was actually in Albuquerque when they
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announced the lockdown in New Mexico.
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I was in the airport. I was the last flight out and I
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was shit in my pants. 'Cause I was like.
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Fuck, I'm gonna get stuck here. I'm gonna rent a car to get
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home. I do not wanna be.
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Here, that's the worst possible place to be locked down.
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They say that Albuquerque has the most stabbings stabbings per
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capita in the world. I believe that's.
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Crazy. Yeah, people stab each other,
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but there's guns now. Why do you stab each other?
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You know what I mean? That's.
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Jacked up downtown Albuquerque is sketch.
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Yeah, it's not a good place. It's not fun.
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I hated covering that territory I got.
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A buddy that's a firefighter out there.
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Yeah, and like, he stays busy, I'm sure.
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Well, when I went to line school, I stopped, I stopped at
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a station and I did like a little ride along with them,
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dude. And it's like almost every
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single call we would, we would go on he, you know, we would get
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there. And he goes, oh, yeah, it's this
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guy again. Yeah.
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So they have. Like, oh, I bet.
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The same freaking guy is over. And over, yeah, that's where my
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dad was raised. My whole family still or my
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dad's side still lives over there.
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Oh, really? Yeah.
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Some are good, some are bad, you know.
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It's anywhere that's anywhere you get.
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You get further W out here and it gets bad.
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Oh, absolutely. You know, yeah.
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But that was just a territory then.
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Like, I mean, you could have, it was available I guess back then,
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you know, I don't know where you would ever find that crap.
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But yeah, you know, this shit is just bad over there.
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It's everywhere. Did you get a a scholarship for
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college? Yeah, for rodeoing.
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I did. OK.
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Yeah. To New Mexico State.
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Go Aggies, baby. There you go.
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Did you graduate? Dang right.
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Yeah. Yeah, 2021.
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What'd you get your degree in? Like Coors lattes and campus
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wildlife. No, that's honestly probably a
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better degree than I got. I got an individualized studies
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degree with a minor in business and an emphasis on agriculture.
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OK. What was your what was your plan
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on? Man called rodeo.
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Oh, that was it, Yeah. So you didn't care what you were
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going to study, You just wanted to go rodeo.
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Yeah, pretty much. Now do they like recruit you at
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a high school or something or? Yep.
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Yeah, it's the same as any other sport.
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OK, so they go to the high school rodeos and I actually
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seen the coach. Logan Corbett was his name.
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He's a good dude. A lot of people don't agree with
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that, but I think he's a good dude, you know?
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Anyways, he was the coach and he we're at the Safford High School
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rodeo and I remember he just, we kind of talked for a second and
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then I was between there and UNLV and then I decided to go
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with there. So.
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They were the actual they're the number one party school in the
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nation, but you're. Like we're going there.
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Yeah. Pretty much.
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I always thought ASU was wasn't like.
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They were top 10. They were, yeah.
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So is New Mexico State OK? Yeah, I know, Florida states a
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big one. The Gators.
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Yeah, yeah. Well, that's the Florida Gators.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Right. Well, that's kind of like a
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given, right? It's like Florida, but like New
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Mexico. That's a sleeper right there,
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man. Right by El Paso in Mexico.
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Yeah, okay. Yeah, everybody used to go to
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Juarez cuz it was 8 and parts of El Paso was 18 to drink.
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Yeah. So yeah, I never went down there
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cuz well, I mean, I'd go to El Paso all the time, but.
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Juarez is scary. Juarez is bad.
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It sounds scary. So is El Paso.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But just the name sounds scary.
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Yeah, man, if you just mind your business, everybody minds theirs
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pretty much. Yeah, but they do have one of
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the coolest minor League Baseball stadiums in the
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country. Yeah, the Chihuahuas.
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Yeah, that stadium's dope. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
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Yeah. El Paso's a cool city.
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Yeah. Juarez is not a cool city.
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No, no, there's nothing. Juarez looks like, like when
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you're going by Juarez on the, on the 10, you know, in El Paso,
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it literally looks like like third world countries.
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So yeah, it's like shacks. U tap the cars in front of U tap
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and like U tap the college or full of bullet holes.
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No, it's just. It's Crossfire and Juarez like
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I'll never forget. And it's funny, but my first
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trip down there, when I was running the sales team down
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there, my dad was like, where are you staying at?
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I'm like, I'm in downtown El Paso.
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And he's like, does your does your room face Juarez?
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And I was like, yeah, why? He goes, wait till tonight and I
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was like, what do you mean he goes watch out your window
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tonight. He goes it'll look like
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fireworks and he goes, it's literally tracer fire.
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And I swear to God, you open up your blinds and you can just see
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tracer fire going back and forth and shooting at each other.
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Yeah, they say it's because four different cartels meet up.
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And Juarez. Oh, really?
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Yeah, so it's like gang wars non-stop.
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And it's still like that to this.
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Day. Oh, yeah, yeah.
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One time we left the sail barn. We used to go.
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They had a horse sale every couple months in El Paso and we
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left the sail barn once. It was me, me, Braden Washburn
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and Wyatt Hershberger. And I think we had fourteen
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horses loaded and we blew a tire and this freaking Escalade, like
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we pulled off and this Escalade got right on our ass and stayed
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there and he pulled off with us and we're like, oh man, this
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ain't good. He's going to rob us or
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something, you know, never did anything.
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Just stayed right on our ass and we kept like crowbars and
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whatever. We, none of us had any guns and
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we changed that tire real quick. Flipped a bitch and the
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Whataburger parking lot got back on the 10.
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We got on there. He left us alone.
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I don't know what the deal was. Why?
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He was kind of watching out for. You guys or something?
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I know. Yeah.
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But he was a cartel truck, no doubt.
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Right? Like you know him down there.
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Yeah. Well I'm sure they don't want to
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fuck with just the regular people right?
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Cuz I don't know. Cuz then I feel like that'll
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bring more heat on them. I don't know you.
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Get across? No, if you're that close to the
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border, that's exactly who they want.
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Well, yeah, we had a lot of money and well, it looked like a
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lot of money. Them horses weren't worth
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nothing, but it looked like we had a lot of money in that rig,
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so. Yeah, that's you don't want to
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be, you don't want to be snatched up in Mexico.
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No, but they all went there were there was a bunch of cartel
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dudes like at the sale too. Oh, really?
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Yeah, like it was kind of cool. Well, it wasn't cool, but to me
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it was because I was like, Dang, this guy's a boss.
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But anyways, this, you could tell he was the Hefe.
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He walks in when the race horses came in.
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Nobody bidded but him. No doubt.
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Yeah. And he had dudes around like it
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looked like a movie. It was sweet.
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That's crazy. Yeah, it was really cool.
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I think, I think there's like a Netflix documentary about
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something like that. Maybe Yeah, the race horses.
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Are big on there yeah where like this like the cartels were
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buying horses and just kind of it was kind of like a money.
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Laundering. Laundering, yeah, but now
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there's big money in it. Oh yeah, it's match racing.
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Dude, I just saw just two horses.
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I just saw a reel the other day where I guess they're, they're
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cloning horses now in like, yeah.
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Does it work? Yeah, I guess, yeah, they're,
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they're literally cloning race horses and they're just using
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them and they just keep cycling them in.
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They're not like messed up, no, like in the head, no, really.
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Sometimes they work out and then sometimes they do.
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Looks like children. Yeah, that's true.
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I know. I got four of them.
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Yeah, some of them. Worked out.
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That's what my dad did. Yeah.
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He's like my sons and my daughters are good girls, are
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good chicks. My sons and I don't know about.
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Them. So how many siblings do you
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have? I have two sisters and a
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brother, so there's two of each of us.
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Where are you at in the age group?
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Second oldest. I'm the oldest boy.
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I guess it's my older sister, Me, my little brother and my
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little sister. Very cool.
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You guess. What's that you said?
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You guess, I guess. You're like I'm I'm the second
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oldest I guess. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Remember that that remember that degree I got?
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Yeah, yeah, I. Skipped a few classes.
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Yeah, I know. I told you Coors Campus wildlife
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and Coors Lattes, that's what we majored in there.
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That's awesome, yeah. How do you like how is steel
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wrestling compared to like the other rodeos that you feel like?
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The other events, the other. Events.
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What do you mean? Like is it, It obviously looks a
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little bit more physical, right? But.
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Yeah, honestly. As far as like the like, how
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hard is it compared to all the other stuff?
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I feel like we're alphas. Yeah, yeah.
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I feel like it's the like, I mean, bull riding is scary, you
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know what I mean? But it's bull riding and then
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like team roping is team roping. Yeah, yeah.
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Bulldogging is kind of, I feel like the Bulldoggers are kind of
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everybody's like Big Brother. You know there's a lot that can
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go wrong. There.
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Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, It's happened.
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Yeah, yeah. Shit's happened.
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I mean, I've torn. I've torn my PEC.
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I broke my nose three times. I blow my knee, my shoulder, my
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elbows, right, my hands. Did you watch the finals last
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night? Oh yeah, I can't believe he won
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with a broken leg. Tucker.
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No, he didn't. What's So who's the guy that's
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in? Yeah, no.
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There was one of the. Yeah, there was a dude out there
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that broke his leg or, or. One of the Bulldoggers, yeah, it
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was Jorgo. He blew his knee out.
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Oh, is that what it was? Yeah, he was lumping off.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy.
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Yeah, He won the round. Oh, the round.
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Yeah, yeah. Not the world champ, No world
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champs. Tuck.
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Yeah, Tuck earned it. That's my boy.
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Do you know him? Oh, yeah, really.
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I know all them guys. That's cool.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're all good buddies.
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That's cool, man. Yeah.
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Were. You hanging out with them last
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week in Vegas when we were there.
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Man, no, I'm not really. I'm weird in Vegas.
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Yeah, yeah. Like that.
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That stuff's like sacred ground to me.
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Like that's the finals. You know what I mean?
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You got to earn your right to be there.
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It's not. Everybody's there to party and
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stuff. Not me.
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Yeah, yeah, I'm there. I mean, like I was there for my
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girl last week, watching her, but I'm not.
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I'm not too kind of. You're there to go to work.
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Kind of, yeah. Like you wouldn't be there to
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earn your spot there, right? Yeah, I feel like I like, it's
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not my place, you know what I mean?
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Yeah. So yeah, I'm just I'm.
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Is that? Is that one of your goals?
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Is. To always is to reach that.
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I think that's everybody's but yeah, yeah, yeah.
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How close? How close are you to that?
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Man, I feel like right now I'm closer than ever.
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Really. Really.
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Yeah. I just confidence wise, it's
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taken me 10 years to learn what that means.
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People try to explain what, you know, having mentality and stuff
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means. But they'd I honestly, I mean,
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not being a jerk, but I don't think they know what that means.
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Yeah. So I think it takes a long time
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to learn it. I mean it for me.
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It did. What is it like?
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Tuck's two years younger than me, you know what I mean?
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And he learned it. He's known it forever.
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I've asked him questions about it, you know?
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Yeah. And his version of it.
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My version of it. What's your version, man?
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It's it's just a confidence thing.
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Yeah, to me, you know, you got to get that mentality is
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everybody talks about like the mental game and stuff.
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But like I said, it took me 10 years to learn to get to where
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it's like, yeah, I'm going to win that or I expect it, you
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know what I mean? So if I don't, then it's like,
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oh, shoot, what? You know, I was thinking or
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something but. There's an investment into
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figuring that out. Oh, I literally invested in
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classes. Yeah, I think.
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That's what a lot of people don't understand is it's not
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something you just wake up one day and you're like, oh, I get
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it. No, no, You know what I mean?
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Yeah. I took classes for a long time
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with a a sports psychologist. And then she was a sports
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hypnosis. Really.
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Yeah. She'd hypnotize you.
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Oh, wow. Yeah, she's Miss Tracy.
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Shout out Miss Tracy. That's cool.
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Yeah, well, I see that. So I was scrolling through your
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Instagram and one of your sponsors is a MMA gym.
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Yeah, right. So yes, Sir, you, you do a lot
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of working out and getting ready for that.
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Yeah. Your body has to be physically
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fit for this. Yeah, it's funny.
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I wasn't like my rookie year. I was 265.
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I was a big boy. I was heavy and slow and fat and
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you know what I mean? And then I found Glenn that
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Baker's MMA and man, we just started pumping some iron and
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kind of getting after a little bit and I lost 30 lbs first and
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I was like 235 and I'm like, man, but I was still slow and I
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didn't feel springy, you know what I mean?
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I didn't feel like I, it'd take me 10 years to learn it, but I
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didn't feel like I learned what body parts to try to engage, you
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know, what muscles to engage. And fighting's the closest thing
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to bulldogging for me that I could kind of use that to
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engage. So, and I was 235 and I was
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still slow. So I got down to like 180 and
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that was light for me. Like I was, I was skin and bones
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and I had no strength. So then I'm like, man, I got to
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find a happy, happy medium. So I got to 195, which is where
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I'm at now. Base Thanksgiving not that long
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ago. I'm like, I'm like 2, a little
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over 200. But we're not college degree.
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Yeah, we're not going to talk about that.
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We're not going to talk about it, but especially after next
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week Christmas, right? You know what I mean?
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We won't we won't talk about it. But anyways I started to stay
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around 200 one 95 and try to stay you know springy type
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working out so. Yeah, 'cause I was surprised the
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winner last night was like 185. Tuck.
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Yeah, on a good day. He's 185.
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He's getting bigger, though. Yeah.
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I mean, I've known him for a long time when he was younger.
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He wasn't, he wasn't his stout. He's getting Pretty Little more
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muscular. What's like the most important
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part of steer wrestling? Is it the start?
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Is it the takedown? Your head?
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Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.
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But that's all of life to me, right?
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Yeah. Honestly, it's all perspective.
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Well, besides that though, like as far as like the physicality
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of it, yeah cuz I mean like, dude, they just make it look so
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easy, right? But I know it's not easy.
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No, none of this shit's easy. But yeah, I mean, sometimes I
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just see riders, they'll like, I don't know, I don't want to,
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like, discredit anybody, right? Yeah, no, none of them events.
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Yeah, all of them got. It, but it's like, dude, I don't
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know, like is it getting off the horse?
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That's the hardest. Yeah, Like what it like, what is
18:33
it that like that like that like gets people other than like the
18:37
I. Would think that's the hardest
18:38
part to overcome is like I'm going to jump off this horse
18:41
going how it. Just on the first one.
18:43
Maybe like the timing, the timing of getting on?
18:45
Yeah, just the know how kind of I don't know.
18:48
I feel like people have advantages, you know, sort of
18:52
speak so I can't you just have to figure out what your
18:54
advantage is kind of yeah, you know, like mine.
18:58
I feel like like don't know, like your sides and your core.
19:04
Yeah, maybe your legs. I mean your legs take the most
19:06
beating for sure, but you have to know how to use them, you
19:10
know, like you don't. You have to know especially like
19:13
I'm not the biggest, but you know how to use what I got
19:16
because I'm not smallest either. Yeah, you just, I would think 1.
19:20
You got to trust your horse right To put you in the place
19:21
to. You got to get on a good one.
19:23
Yeah, yeah. And then two, you got to
19:24
understand how your body works, right?
19:25
You really got to know how your. Body works for sure.
19:28
And it's funny because the Bulldoggers back in the day, you
19:31
know, they're the beer drinker, Copenhagen chewers, you know
19:35
what I mean? Like my dad back in his day,
19:38
they, they drank Coors Light and Drew steers and ate as much as
19:42
they could and tried to get as big as they could.
19:43
And you know what I mean? But nowadays the cows are
19:45
getting smaller, so we have to know how to handle ourselves.
19:49
And them going Mach 90, you know, that's the fastest you'll
19:53
go on a horse, period. Yeah.
19:56
That's why it's the fastest event.
19:58
Yeah. But yeah, I mean, one of my
20:00
buddy's wives, he's a, well, he's an NFR bulldogger and his
20:04
wife run barrels really good, you know?
20:06
And she wanted a haze for him real bad.
20:08
And she kept asking, kept asking and and she and she was a hand,
20:11
you know, she run barrels really good.
20:13
And he's like, all right, I'll let you haze one time for me.
20:16
So he puts her in there and he's, he's like, I'm not going
20:18
to get off on this steer because she's not going to like get
20:22
there, you know? And she said she dropped her
20:24
hand and she said that she dropped her hand and she grabbed
20:27
the saddle horn and was like, Oh my God, I don't.
20:29
Want to do a rocket? Yeah, yeah.
20:31
And she said she got to the back end hand on the horse, never
20:33
asked Hayes again. She said it was so zero to 100
20:38
as fast as that horse could run that it scared the hell out of.
20:41
Her I guess I didn't even think about that.
20:43
So because I kept thinking to myself, I'm like, I keep hearing
20:45
that and there's just no way. Because you see how fast the
20:48
barrel horses come out, but they have a runway.
20:51
Yeah, they're getting heads before you go, Yeah.
20:53
But you're right, like they come, they come firing out of a
20:55
cannon when they come out of that box.
20:57
Yep, that's why I think of that. People ask like, man, why are
21:00
the bulldogging horses so crazy or something like that?
21:03
I mean, you get backed in a corner with a 200 plus pound guy
21:07
on your back that's getting ready to kick the absolute air
21:09
out of ya. Yeah, and run as fast as you
21:11
can. If you slow down, he gonna be
21:13
pissed, right? Right.
21:14
You know what I mean? Takes a special kind of horse to
21:16
do that, yeah. And they know.
21:17
That's their job. They know it.
21:18
Yeah. A bulldogging horse is just like
21:20
a bulldogger. Yeah.
21:21
They got like a like like a swag about them and you know what I
21:24
mean? Yeah, for sure.
21:26
For sure. Yeah.
21:27
They like going fast. You know what I mean?
21:29
Just like us. Yeah.
21:30
Yeah. That's cool.
21:31
You can always tell. Are they mostly like quarter
21:34
horses? Or yeah, all of them.
21:35
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't. I mean, I'm sure there's
21:37
different, you know, I'm sure people have used thoroughbreds
21:40
and stuff before, but. Not us.
21:43
Now, how important is the hazers for you guys?
21:47
Oh, everything. Everything.
21:48
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
21:50
They they're done. Yeah.
21:52
All right, I'll tell you what they say about hazers.
21:55
And this is what an old bulldogger told me.
21:58
Suck one cock. You're a cock sucker, miss.
22:00
One hazier cock sucker. That's how much pressure is on
22:03
hazing. You know what I mean?
22:04
Yeah. Like, and it's like, I'm not
22:07
going to straight up if you miss, but I'm not going to call
22:09
you that. You know what I mean?
22:11
But in your head, the guy who actually missed the haze is
22:14
going to be like, oh man, I'm such a cock sucker, you know
22:16
what I mean? Like you're just going to feel
22:17
like you're this. Bitch.
22:18
And so like, their job is to be right on the other side.
22:21
Their job, they control your run.
22:23
Like, you get a good hazer that could, that knows you.
22:26
And he doesn't have to be the best hazer in the world.
22:28
He's just got to know you. He can completely set up
22:31
everything for you. Really.
22:32
Yeah. Like if he's up there on a good
22:34
horse and you got one that runs a little bit and he gets up in
22:38
their eye and he knows the start you're taking and then you're
22:40
going to pinch them off right here, you're going to be fast on
22:43
them. You know, like I think 2 nights
22:45
ago at the finals, Justin Schafer was 3/6 on one and
22:49
that's you're supposed to run. If you watch him and tuck, they
22:52
shut that steer down. They made that whole run up, you
22:55
know what I mean? That's why they're faster.
22:57
Damn every. It's so it's so fast that you
22:59
have to, I mean, you calculate everything.
23:01
Yeah. Yeah, we're not just, I mean.
23:04
Like some guys will haze for several riders, right?
23:06
Oh yeah, when you haze, good. Yeah, you're busy.
23:08
Yeah. That's do you like split, do
23:11
they get split the money of the of the winnings and all that?
23:14
Yeah. So if it's if the hazer owns the
23:18
haze horse and the bullogging horse, it's a quarter 25%.
23:22
If it's just like the hazer and the haze horse, it's 12 1/2.
23:24
OK, OK. It's like a caddy.
23:27
Yeah, is that? Golfing A caddy, right?
23:29
Like a caddy gets paid every time a golfer plays.
23:31
Yeah, but I mean, if you see, like if you see a guy miss a
23:35
haze, I promise you he did not do it on purpose, right?
23:38
You know what I mean? That's what that's where that
23:40
saying comes from. Yeah.
23:41
It's like, man, there's so much pressure.
23:42
You want that guy to win so much.
23:44
Now, are these like hazers? Like wanting?
23:47
Are they just like young Cowboys that like I want to be a hazer
23:50
when I grow up or are they just. Kind of old steers.
23:52
They're all bulldoggers, OK? Yeah.
23:54
So they kind of know what you're going through to get.
23:57
Yeah, most of the time we haze for each other.
23:59
OK. Yeah, yeah.
24:01
Like, yeah, all the Bulldoggers hates for each other.
24:05
Bulldoggers. That's why I said they're like
24:06
everybody's older brother. Bulldoggers are like, I mean,
24:09
we're cool, you know what I mean?
24:10
We're not, we're not Dicks. We're all, we're all chilling.
24:13
We're helping each other out. Yeah, all homies with each other
24:16
and. Stuff.
24:16
Yeah, yeah, that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome, man.
24:19
So I can't even imagine like going that fast that it's.
24:21
Fun, dude. Yeah, it's awesome.
24:23
Like team roping's cool, Yeah. You know what I mean?
24:26
But like, bull logging's different.
24:27
Yeah. Yeah.
24:28
I always say, like bull logging's my wife, team roping's
24:31
my mistress, you know, like team roping I can have and whatever.
24:34
It's fun, you know? But bull logging I have to have,
24:37
right? I got, I have to sleep with that
24:38
bull logging every single night, right?
24:40
You know what I mean? It's what ticks us.
24:42
And every bull logger's the same.
24:44
If you're a real Bulldogger, that's all you think of.
24:46
Yeah. And you can ask any bulldogger's
24:49
wife they will. Yeah.
24:50
That's all Bulldogger thinks of. Yeah.
24:53
How? Often do you train?
24:55
Like practice, we're going to like, we're going to practice
24:57
that like today. Yeah.
25:00
I don't know. I used to a lot more when I was
25:02
younger. Yeah, yeah.
25:03
And then I I've been hurt a lot. So I kind of felt like, you
25:08
know, when I'm learning myself now and you know, I'm getting
25:11
older, getting to be a grown man or whatever it it, I kind of
25:15
learned that gyms and. Recovery.
25:18
Yeah, and mental. And, you know, I don't even have
25:21
my own bulldogging horse. I ride everybody else's.
25:23
So yeah, as long as they keep their horses sharp, I'll stay.
25:26
I'll keep myself sharp and I'll be all right.
25:28
Nice. Where are you practicing at
25:29
today? My dad's house and yeah, in
25:32
Whitman here, so. Now you're sponsored, you have
25:36
other sponsors, right? Yep, Cinch jeans, Weaver Leather
25:40
Synergy by Weaver and Tri Line Incorporated.
25:45
OK, very cool. Now, do they help you get to
25:47
these rodeos and entry fees? And all that, I didn't do
25:50
nothing. They no, I'm just kidding.
25:53
Yeah. Cinch.
25:53
I've had cinch forever. I've had cinch since I was, I
25:59
was in college. And I know I got it 'cause I I
26:04
was jacked. I was at my little brother's
26:06
football. I, I don't know, it's probably
26:07
2018-2019. So like 6 years.
26:11
I've had Weaver for like 7-8 years and then I've had Baker 7
26:17
made for like 5 years and then Tri line's been kind of hit or
26:20
miss. It's one of my buddies deals.
26:23
They're construction business and he's helped me a lot.
26:25
You know he, he would help me when I was going rodeoing and
26:29
stuff. Cinch and Weaver, they just kind
26:32
of, we keep, you know, all their, all their items around
26:36
and stuff like that. So just use them and everything.
26:38
Yeah, we just use them. That's all I use.
26:40
And honestly, I got, I got those two because they're the best.
26:45
Yeah, you know, I wanted those two.
26:47
Those are what I wanted. And when I first started, Cinch
26:51
wasn't allowed in the arena. Oh, really?
26:53
Yeah, they just changed that. Why three years ago?
26:56
Because Wrangler was the main sponsor of the TRCA, so it was a
27:00
conflicting sponsorship. And they paid a lot of money to
27:03
the PRCA. Yeah, Yeah.
27:05
But we had not this CEO, but the CEO before he switched that.
27:12
And everyone's like, oh, dude, the PRCA is going to go broke.
27:14
But honestly, it's just getting better.
27:16
So they're working together and just trying to give us the most
27:19
money. Yeah, it's it's just getting
27:21
better every year. I mean, Tucker won $400,000 last
27:24
year doing what he loves. That's awesome.
27:27
Yeah, that's awesome. You know what I mean?
27:28
Not including what he makes from his sponsors.
27:30
I didn't realize. I didn't even realize how much
27:32
money is in though. Big Money Man 40,000 a night
27:35
this past week. What did Trevor say is like 12
27:38
million in one? Day payouts last night.
27:40
Oh, probably. Just with all the events.
27:42
Yeah, I don't know that. I don't know the actual number,
27:44
but yeah, it wouldn't surprise me.
27:45
Vegas has so much money, though. That's all that town is, is
27:48
money. Oh yeah, yeah, that's my.
27:50
Favorite two weeks would be in Vegas.
27:52
Hell yeah. That's the only time that's
27:54
right here. Yeah.
27:55
It it's just different, you know, that's why I mean, that's
27:59
what I'm saying like earlier, everyone like last week, they're
28:03
like, oh, you're going to the back number ceremony, you're
28:04
going to the, you know, the buck presentation after.
28:07
No, there's some things, like for me personally, I would like
28:10
to experience on the other side of that.
28:12
Yeah, You know what I mean? Sacred.
28:13
Yeah, that's sacred to me. But I still am going to go there
28:17
and you know, and hang out and support my buddies and use that.
28:21
You want to see that when you're getting lost.
28:24
You love it, huh? He's peanut butter and jellis.
28:28
Never heard. That one that's.
28:34
Awesome, man, That's cool. Yeah, well, the one complaint I
28:36
would have about Vegas is their rails, man.
28:38
Like they need to. They need to tie down those
28:40
rails that they have there. On what?
28:42
Everywhere. Shit, you didn't see our Do you
28:46
follow us at all on social media?
28:48
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so we were joking around,
28:50
right? Stretching how millennials
28:52
stretch before they dance. Did you see that?
28:54
I didn't watch that. My wife and his wife, they're
28:57
stretching and stuff like that. Well, there's a railing where we
29:00
were at The MGM, right and in the bar.
29:03
So I go over and I put my leg up on it and I'm stretching.
29:06
This dumb shit goes over instead of sticking his leg up, grabs it
29:10
and goes to lean back and pulls the entire section of railing
29:13
over on himself. And it was so funny to see.
29:16
They kick you out. No, no, no.
29:18
They helped us put it back up. He was like, oh shit.
29:20
Re wasted. No, no.
29:22
So they probably knew, yeah. But what was funny?
29:25
Like what was funny, funny as you saw all the Cowboys just
29:27
come, yeah, just start fixing fence.
29:30
I was like, Oh yeah, it. Was.
29:31
It was hilarious. We all were like.
29:33
They could hear their dad yelling at him in the
29:35
background. Got right.
29:36
To it, yeah. It was just so funny because I
29:38
was like, when I grabbed it, I felt that it was loose, right?
29:42
Like I knew it wasn't well. I didn't even see you grabbing.
29:45
Got that college degree. I didn't.
29:46
Yeah, exactly she would. Yeah, he's still drinking Coors
29:50
lattes. I hear you.
29:51
That's right. Yeah.
29:52
Yeah. I slowed down.
29:53
I can't drink. I suck at drinking.
29:56
Yeah. Like I don't like that word Suck
29:58
is, but the only time I use it in my vocabulary is when I talk
30:01
about drinking because I suck at drinking.
30:03
Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, it is.
30:05
And I don't know anybody that's that good at it.
30:07
A lot of people keep trying. I just hate the next day.
30:10
Yeah, I've got a buddy, Brian. He's full of Irish.
30:14
You don't drink with that guy? No, we drank till like 3:00 one
30:17
morning and had to get up for meetings the next day.
30:19
The dude got up and went to the gym before the meeting.
30:22
Wow. I was drunk for three days.
30:23
Yeah, yeah, I couldn't do it. Like I I just can't function.
30:26
Like they're raised on it. Yeah, that's.
30:28
Crazy, crazy, but yeah. I'll throw up after 2 beers.
30:33
Are you like a whiskey guy? I'll.
30:35
I'll probably throw up after 2 whiskeys.
30:37
I'll just suck at drinking. Yeah, it's probably.
30:39
A good thing I'm not even drunk. I just.
30:41
I don't know. It doesn't suit.
30:42
It doesn't suit well with me anymore.
30:45
Yeah, it used to. Thanks for your call.
30:48
I think so. I honestly, yeah.
30:50
I try not to admit it, but I think so.
30:52
Too much Coors lattes in college.
30:53
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Well, awesome. So tell us.
32:59
So not only do you ride rodeo, you said you just sold your your
33:03
rodeo that you had, right? Oh yeah, yeah, the goat roofing
33:08
deal. Yeah, it it was fun when it
33:10
lasted. I I think I was listening to a
33:13
podcast actually about a different bulldogger and he was
33:17
like, man, I put on this goat rope and once and I made bank.
33:21
He said, I remember I left and I had like 2500 in my pocket cash
33:26
and I was like Dang at 1st and I was like 2500.
33:30
You know, looking back I'm like shit 2500, but you know what I
33:34
mean. But anyways, so once he said
33:37
that, I'm like, well, that's easy.
33:39
I could freaking do that. Yeah.
33:41
And so I, I started just doing it.
33:46
I just kind of, whenever I get to an idea, I just kind of start
33:49
doing it. But I start doing it and I'd get
33:54
all my goats from random backyard people.
33:58
Everybody in Queen Creek has a goat in their back.
34:00
Three fainting goats right there.
34:01
You know what I mean? I mean, they weren't all
34:03
fainting goats, but. And by the time I would put some
34:06
on Facebook, I was the only one doing it back then.
34:08
So by the time I would put some on Facebook, I would have.
34:12
Everybody was so tired of their goats, they'd give them to me
34:14
for free. Oh, really?
34:15
Yeah. So I mean, I honestly, I swear,
34:18
dude. So yeah, my biggest.
34:20
Other two. Yeah, yeah, they're so tired of
34:23
them. They had no, and I mean, and
34:24
they're not the the little ones, like no offense, those ones and
34:27
stuff. They're not worth anything.
34:28
No, they're, you know, they're pets.
34:30
Yeah. And so I would get, I mean, I
34:33
would have big little. I have some messed up goat
34:37
stories. I was full into it.
34:38
I mean, one time my poor dad, I had 100 goats at his house.
34:43
Yeah, well, I put on Goat Open two nights a week so I'd have a
34:46
Thursday and a Friday pen. And the one here at Dylan's was
34:49
massive. You know, like they're they're
34:51
doing all right now with theirs. But I mean, we changed the whole
34:56
ball game with that stuff, honestly.
34:57
Like, I remember when I was a kid that Luke Kraut guy was
35:01
telling you about him and his wife did it and I loved him.
35:06
And I feel like, I mean, if they had a like a world championship
35:08
for goat Open, I'd be 30 time world champion.
35:11
Yeah. I mean, I grew up, I grew up a
35:13
goat. And so I used to always enter
35:16
his goat opens and I would freaking kick their butt at him.
35:19
And I used to get in trouble in high school for going to goat
35:22
opens late and getting getting home late, you know what I mean?
35:25
And anyways, so I was like, man, I got to, I got to start doing
35:30
that goat Open. So I did the goat roping and
35:33
yeah, we give, we give all kinds of, I mean, I can show you
35:35
pictures on my phone. We'd have our biggest night we
35:38
had, I cut them off at 500 teams.
35:42
Holy shit. Out of out of goat roping, dude.
35:45
Damn. Yeah.
35:47
That's why like people are like, oh, we got like, I mean, I've
35:50
heard of a bunch of people have told me like, oh, we got like 50
35:53
teams is awesome. Or 100 teams or 200 teams.
35:55
I'm like 200 teams was a slow Thursday for me.
35:59
Wow. Yeah.
36:00
Like, I mean, I'd cut them off at 3:50, dude, every single
36:03
Thursday and Friday. Yeah, everyone.
36:06
And I mean, and I wouldn't only bring like the bars would pay me
36:09
to go. So I I wouldn't only I'm like,
36:12
man, I'm not just going to come here and put on our opens.
36:14
We're all going to make some money with this thing.
36:16
So like George Dillon's there. He's like, all right, Dill dude.
36:20
And yeah, I mean, I, I could give you big numbers of what
36:23
they made one night from one of my gutter opens.
36:25
And I mean, he didn't pay me much 'cause I didn't make my
36:27
money on the gutter opens. But yeah, we're all, I mean, I'd
36:30
bring a crowd. There'd be like at Dylan's, they
36:33
used to have I they used to put bleachers around to go rope and
36:36
there'd be people, I mean, hanging over the bleachers like
36:38
a damn rap concert and everything.
36:41
That's cool. Yeah, I was ranked.
36:42
How did you? Were you just advertising it on
36:45
Facebook or? Yeah, advertising.
36:47
Hard at it, huh? Yep, Yep.
36:49
I feel like Facebook is everybody's best friend.
36:51
If you want it to be like it's such, you have to learn to use
36:54
it. You got to learn to use it.
36:55
Like, I don't, I mean, don't get me wrong, it's a vice, you know
36:58
what I mean? And it's social media and none
37:00
of that stuff's good, but it if you use it right, it could be
37:04
such a tool. Yeah, you know, well, if you're.
37:06
Going to be in business for anything, anything you have to
37:08
be able to use social. Yeah, and it's, I mean, and I
37:11
don't have a million followers on nothing or nothing, but I
37:14
know that if I keep posting annoying crap, someone's going
37:18
to see it eventually, right. You know what I mean?
37:20
And it takes one. Yeah, yeah.
37:22
Especially now with like the real estate stuff that I only
37:25
want that one person. Yeah, yeah.
37:27
So yeah, that's how I the goats. And then dude, I mean, the first
37:32
year we'd get like this one time we had one and I learned my
37:37
lesson, but I was, I was entering them.
37:40
And like I said, I could be a world champ goat Roper.
37:43
And I, these boys from Arkansas came over and my goat roping was
37:47
called Arizona goat roping. We rope goats in Arizona, you
37:51
know what I mean? And especially around here,
37:53
every Navajo boy next to you can damn sure rope a goat, you know
37:58
what I mean? Like ain't no joke.
37:59
And me and I can't, I always roped with this one kid, his
38:06
name is Brody. And that kid, all he did was
38:08
rope goats. Like he rope goats and now he
38:10
ropes really good. But I mean he does rope goats
38:13
all day. So I always roped with him and
38:15
me and him demolished everybody if we entered, you know, and
38:18
these boys from Arkansas, they're quick.
38:20
They're like 2 on a goat or one on a goat or something.
38:24
Me and that Brody were .94 on our first one and they were
38:29
talking shit. So we were .61 on our second
38:32
one. Then boys pulled up their rigs
38:36
because I used to back my trailer into Dillon's into the
38:39
entry. I couldn't get out.
38:41
They were pissed. Oh shit, yeah, they were going
38:43
to my brother. Like my brother, I love him to
38:46
death. But they they were like, come
38:48
on, let's go outside. My brother's over the fence
38:50
going. He's like, let's go, you know
38:53
what I mean? He's like, I'm not kidding.
38:54
And yeah, I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
38:57
And I mean, they're from Arkansas, so I'm like, them boys
38:59
got stuff. And they were sitting out front
39:02
like of our truck with like freaking ARS hanging out.
39:05
I mean, yeah, they're going to shoot us over a damn goat
39:07
roping. It's.
39:08
Just because they couldn't beat you?
39:09
Yeah, Yeah. And they were like, oh, you
39:12
cheated. I'm like, bro, you could time.
39:15
Yeah. And then I would always let him
39:16
pick the goat. Yeah.
39:18
Because I knew him so good. You know that I'm like, I don't
39:21
care. So I quit entering for a long
39:23
time. And then finally, like the year
39:26
or two after that, I started entering again and then I just
39:29
got tired of the go roping, dude.
39:30
Yeah, I was like, man, it's go roping.
39:32
I feel like I got man champagne taste and that is not a
39:36
champagne dream right there. Were you?
39:38
Were you doing something other than go roping?
39:41
Oh yeah, I was. I shot horses forever and
39:44
rodeoed and man, whatever. Whatever.
39:47
Honestly, I always have done whatever I can do to go more
39:49
rodeos. Yeah, it ain't cheap.
39:52
Yeah, no doubt. Now you're doing real estate,
39:53
too. Yep, real estate.
39:55
How long you had your license doing that?
39:57
A little over a year, be two years this year I guess.
40:00
Yep. And it honestly, my rookie
40:03
everything is a competition to me so.
40:05
My rookie year in real estate was great.
40:07
Yeah. I couldn't ask for a better
40:09
rookie year. That was last year, right?
40:11
Yeah. OK, Yeah.
40:12
And then how was your sophomore year going?
40:14
Well, this coming to my sophomore is still the end of my
40:17
rookie, I guess. OK, Yeah.
40:18
So 2025 was your first years? Or first full year.
40:21
Yeah, I got, I got my license in, you know, September,
40:26
whatever. I got it in September or
40:30
whatever the year before. So yeah, my first rookie year
40:33
was awesome. That's awesome.
40:34
Yeah. And I had man, I just, I, I kind
40:36
of like I said, I when I jump into stuff, I try to jump into
40:39
it. Yeah.
40:41
How? Come How come you went into real
40:42
estate? So every I like listening a lot.
40:46
My dad told me the smartest person in the room is the guy
40:49
that's listening the most. And so I try to listen to
40:53
everybody and everybody. And I listen a lot of podcasts
40:55
and I love like documentaries and stuff and everybody anytime
40:59
they talk about wealth, they talk about real estate, some
41:02
form of real estate. Well, I ain't got no money and I
41:06
don't have anything. So what I do have is the, or I
41:10
could learn the knowledge to, you know, have some finger in
41:14
the real estate game. There's so much money in it, you
41:17
know what I mean? So that's kind of where I got
41:19
started. And then I men being bent over
41:21
shooting them horses. You'll sure think of a whole lot
41:24
more stuff, right? You know what I mean?
41:25
Which they're farriers are awesome.
41:29
I still shoot some horses, you know what I mean?
41:32
It's one of the only jobs you can have $0.00 in your bank
41:34
account at 8:00 AM and 1000 at noon.
41:37
You know what I mean? Pretty easy.
41:39
So and it's one of the only jobs you could do that every day, you
41:42
know, and you make your own hours.
41:43
So shooting horses there is awesome job.
41:46
So I it's hard. On your back.
41:48
It's hard on your whole body. It's hard on my leg, my, my hips
41:52
and stuff when they jerk, you know, and I'm like I said, I'm
41:55
not small, but I'm not big. And so they it's meant for
41:59
smaller guys like you just don't have to bend over as far.
42:02
So now you're also, what's the new venture that you're doing?
42:05
Dirt, Dirt and grading. Yeah, that's kinda we've we
42:10
kinda hit the ground running with that too.
42:12
So yeah, I, like I said, I listen to a lot of stuff and
42:17
they. Have you ever heard of the book
42:19
Rich Dad? Poor dad.
42:20
Oh yeah, I read it. That book changed my life.
42:22
Yeah. So I just feel like he talks a
42:24
lot about assets and you might like buying certain assets and
42:29
stuff like that. Well, equipment's an asset
42:31
completely, you know what I mean?
42:33
And like I said, I don't, I have, I have common sense.
42:36
I feel like, you know, and my dad's in construction and all my
42:40
buddies that have anything are all construction, so I want a
42:43
finger in that too. Yeah, there's always going to be
42:45
a need. Yeah, right.
42:46
And that's absolutely. I think that's the funny part is
42:49
like a lot of entrepreneurs look for something that's flashy
42:52
right now. Yeah, but most of it's not
42:54
sustainable. Yeah, right.
42:56
Like, so HVAC and plumbing and electrical and all those, those
43:00
are all sustainable. You're always, always going to
43:02
need that, right. Groundwork is always going to
43:04
need to. Be absolutely.
43:06
And I feel like if I have enough pennies in the game, it'll make
43:08
a dollar one day. Sure, you know what I mean?
43:11
Like I, I could be the smallest business here and smallest here,
43:14
This, this, this, this or whatever.
43:16
I always have the real estate. I always have my college degree
43:20
and I always got shooting horses no matter what.
43:22
Now I got equipment I could sell that sucker and it'd be all
43:25
right, you know what I mean? Or whatever I got to do.
43:28
So there's always stuff like that, I feel like.
43:30
So yeah, just buying assets and. Well, you also have a job that
43:36
is a little flexible, right? I mean all of them if you if you
43:38
want to go do your rodeo stuff and you have to travel.
43:41
Yeah, well, like last year I went.
43:44
I went on the California run, which I've never been before.
43:47
I never had enough money to go. So I went because real estate.
43:50
So I was able to go and I could still work out there.
43:53
Every time I was rodeoing, I was like, man, I wish I could have a
43:55
job that I could do out here. Well, real estate, I can't.
43:58
Yeah, you know what I mean? I mean, I can't show houses and
44:00
stuff, but I can mark it, right? Right.
44:03
I can take my computer and if I have stuff in escrow, I could
44:06
get it done, right? You know what I mean?
44:08
I could schedule inspections, I could do whatever I need to do.
44:11
Outside of. Showing outside, respond to
44:12
emails, that's how I mean, it's not, it's a lot easier than
44:15
shooting horses, but you know what I mean?
44:17
That's how easy it is for me. So I was able and I, I have a
44:21
little Verizon business deal that I could take Wi-Fi boxes on
44:25
the road with me. So I, yeah, we went there and it
44:28
was fun. So we we went to Red Bluff,
44:31
Clovis, Lakeside. Oh man, what is that rodeo
44:35
called? It's brand new.
44:36
It's called the Desert Rodeo. It was during Coachella.
44:41
Oh, OK. Yeah, in the.
44:42
Middle of the dunes. It was awesome.
44:43
I can't remember it was. It was Indio pretty much, but I
44:47
can't remember what they called the like the town.
44:50
It was so small of a town. I mean, and then you come around
44:53
the corner and there's like crazy cartel freaking palm trees
44:57
and you're like, there's some money.
44:58
Yeah. Yeah.
44:59
And then who that like they had Anthony Lucia announcing it and
45:02
then my buddy Casey Jones was there.
45:04
And anytime Jones is there, there's money somewhere.
45:07
He ain't no, he ain't no scrub, you know what I mean?
45:09
Like he knows in rodeo, he's the man.
45:12
Like that Casey Jones. You don't know him.
45:15
No, you know that pro fantasy rodeo.
45:18
No, the game that you could play, they give away a truck and
45:22
a trailer and like 100. Grand never heard of it.
45:24
Oh, you boys need to play it. It's 100 bucks and you pick,
45:27
they give you a cap, salary cap. I don't remember what it is, 750
45:30
or something. And every guy is worth so much
45:32
money. So it's like, it's like fantasy
45:34
football but for rodeo, but for rodeo, just for the finals.
45:38
Oh. Yeah, and they pay go rounds.
45:41
Yeah. So you're watching and say
45:42
you're bareback rider's rocker or whatever.
45:45
So you bought rocker. Well, he's 150,000.
45:48
Well, the bulldogger you're going to have to be cheap on
45:50
because you also want a bronc rider that's up here or
45:52
whatever. However you want to make the
45:54
team you can. There's so many million ways to
45:57
do it. You know what I mean?
45:59
That no two teams are really the same.
46:01
So you got to really pay attention all year.
46:03
Yeah, 'cause you can't just pick 11111.
46:07
You'd you'd. Yeah, you.
46:09
Would have to afford it. Yeah.
46:10
That was fun. Actually.
46:11
I I lived with, I've lived with Jonesy two different times.
46:14
And Jonesy's an entrepreneur. That's what his his major is
46:18
from college. He went to UW.
46:21
He's like a like a hero of mine, kind of.
46:23
He's he's been to the finals 10 times.
46:25
He didn't make the finals till he was 33.
46:27
It was the first time he made the finals, the NFR finals.
46:30
While he was at the finals. He has pro fantasy rodeo, which
46:35
makes he does very well. He drives.
46:38
He gave away a cyber truck for the American last year.
46:41
Yeah, he gave away a brand new Ram called the AG Wagon.
46:45
Elite trailer, living quarters trailer.
46:47
I mean $200,000 rig this year gives it away.
46:50
Wow. For $100 bet that's the best bet
46:52
in Vegas. Yeah.
46:54
Yeah, and you can win money. Yeah.
46:56
Yeah, I'm. I thought everybody knew about.
46:58
It yeah, I never heard of. It.
46:59
Yeah, yeah, you gotta play it. So it's called what?
47:01
Pro fantasy rodeo. OK.
47:03
Is it an app? Is that what?
47:04
It is for no so during the finals, honestly, just look now
47:08
that we're talking about it'll pop up on your Facebook, OK and
47:11
yeah for the final when the before the NFR starts next year,
47:14
like the day or two before get it bought.
47:16
OK, yeah, it's a hard buck. Yeah, that'd be fun.
47:19
Yeah, it's worth it. And I think in Arizona, I don't
47:21
know if he got it changed. I haven't played it in like, I
47:25
didn't play it this year. I might have played it last
47:27
year, but anyways, in Arizona, it used to not be able to use
47:30
your Arizona address for it. Oh really?
47:32
Yeah, 'cause there's some law with gambling.
47:35
Yeah, you can only gamble on, you know, native land or
47:39
whatever here. Oh, interesting.
47:40
Yeah, they opened it up. Yeah, it's open.
47:42
Yeah, it's open up to everything, I think.
47:44
So, so I think now you could use your Arizona address, but we
47:46
used to have to use my Nana's address in New Mexico.
47:48
You see now I could do that because it's a 10 day stretch,
47:51
right? I just can't manage fantasy
47:53
football. Oh dude that's 16 and it makes
47:55
it way more fun. Because it's by the same you.
47:57
Feel like you have a a a card some.
47:59
Skin in the game, but it's every day too every.
48:02
All 10 days, yeah. Or now.
48:04
Now he's doing like he's like I said, he's kicking ass.
48:06
So he's got day games. He's got, you know, different
48:10
things you could play. You could play 5 game, like 5
48:12
round game, all kinds of stuff. Oh, that's cool.
48:14
Yeah. So look into it.
48:15
He he has that and then he has, you know, rodeo Vegas.
48:19
Have you ever heard of that? No.
48:21
OK, so he has a booth at the Cowboy Christmas and he sells
48:25
these real high dollar jackets that he gives all the
48:29
contestants. They're rodeo Vegas jackets.
48:31
And I mean, they're like, he gave me one and I think that he
48:34
told me the price tag on it was at least like 600 bucks.
48:37
Yeah. And they're leather jackets.
48:38
I mean, they're nice jackets. They're the same jackets they
48:41
give the contestants. So he does that and then he
48:45
hasn't. What rodeo?
48:46
Vegas is like an after party for the Cowboys and for the fans to
48:51
go hang out. Is that is that at the resort?
48:54
Yeah. World at the Zoo.
48:55
Yeah. OK.
48:56
Yeah, it used to be at The Mirage before.
48:57
I don't think The Mirage is a thing anymore.
48:59
No, I think that. Yeah, it was.
49:01
It's always fun, dude. Yeah.
49:02
And last year, I mean, we felt like such freaking.
49:05
We felt like studs, me and my girl, like walk in.
49:09
I'm like, yeah, my buddy puts this on and she's like, yeah,
49:11
whatever, you know what I mean? Like you're full of shit.
49:13
And I'm like, no, really, He does.
49:15
And she's like, yeah, and T pain's coming on that night and
49:18
Tuck and Shaffer and all them guys are there and I walk in and
49:22
like I said, it's not my deal, you know what I mean?
49:24
That's a privilege to get there. And Jonesy always makes it like,
49:27
no, it's just everybody's deal. But he's like, he sees me right
49:31
away. He's like, hey, Claire, what's
49:32
up, dude? I'm like, what's up?
49:33
And he's like, hey, go in my my box.
49:36
So we go into his box. It's free drinks, 'cause I just
49:39
paid like 200 bucks for like 2 drinks, you know, up top.
49:43
So we go free drinks. T pain supposed to come on at
49:46
1:30 in the morning. He don't show till like 3 or
49:49
330. And my girl's like this bedtime,
49:52
we gotta go to bed. I'm like, we're waiting.
49:54
For T pain. Me and Tuck were out there
49:57
freaking yeah. It was so fun.
49:58
Yeah, it was cool. He's a cool dude.
50:01
Yeah, he's a cool dude. Yeah, 'cause we got invited to
50:03
the after party with El. Hey, Guy.
50:05
Oh yeah, yeah, he's cool. We just, we just got some hate
50:08
from him. Yeah, I, I told him, I said,
50:11
hey, you know, when somebody sponsored around here, time
50:13
event guy, I'm your guy. There you go.
50:16
That's cool. Yeah, we're gonna.
50:17
He's coming on, yeah. Cool.
50:19
Yeah, we'll bring him. Yeah.
50:20
Tell him I said that when he pops up, say, McClain said.
50:22
What's up? I will.
50:23
Yeah. If he says who would just be
50:26
like man, remember the guy that's asking for everything?
50:33
Dude that's such a good idea man.
50:34
Is to make a what? What your buddy did is to make
50:37
like a little draft thing for the rodeo.
50:39
Oh, dude, yeah, He's, he's an evil genius.
50:42
Yeah. He's the smartest guy.
50:43
That's where, oh, that's where this whole thing stemmed from.
50:47
I wanted to find something I could do while I rodeo that's
50:50
going to pay for me to rodeo, you know what I mean?
50:52
And that's he's the, he's the founding father of that, you
50:56
know what I mean? He's the guy who did it.
50:58
Yeah. And he's the only guy who did
50:59
it. Nobody.
51:01
Everybody else, like, I mean, they, they think I don't even
51:04
know of another guy that tries. I mean, there's different guys
51:07
that go rodeo and have a job, call the rodeo and you know, and
51:10
have a, all of it's online. But yeah, he's the guy.
51:13
But he's doing it to where his his work is doing his work.
51:16
Right. And he's making money.
51:17
Yeah. And he's got all his guys, you
51:20
know, doing it. And this dude in his office,
51:23
this guy's so awesome. One time he started to try to
51:27
make an app for rodeo. Like, I can't remember what it
51:31
was, but the app failed, It sucked, nobody downloaded it,
51:36
whatever. But what he did with that, he
51:38
learned how to build an app. So he started an app building
51:40
company that took off. This dude's a genius.
51:45
He's went to college for being an entrepreneur.
51:48
Yeah, not no Individualized studies.
51:51
You know what? I mean, yeah, well, that's why,
51:53
like they tell you, failure's inevitable.
51:55
It's about failing forward and learning from Yeah for sure your
51:58
mistakes. Yeah, and that guy's prime
52:00
example of it. And like, not making the finals
52:02
till you're 33. I'm 27 and I can only imagine
52:06
when you're 33. I mean people by now,
52:08
everybody's like, oh, you know, you gotta, you gotta think about
52:11
other stuff. I mean, your family, everybody
52:13
says stuff like that, you know, and it's all up here.
52:16
It's like whatever, you know? Yeah.
52:18
Like you guys have no idea what's going on, right.
52:20
You know what I mean? Or anyone.
52:22
I mean, immediate family will tell you that.
52:23
And you're like, Nah, I mean, you say whatever, but I know
52:26
what's up to you. Awesome dude.
52:27
Yeah. Yeah, you got your goals set and
52:29
you know what you're trying to. Apply, man, you just got the
52:31
confidence. Yeah, takes a while to get the
52:33
confidence to back it up. You can always have the goals,
52:36
but. What's the what's the dirt
52:38
working company that you're with right now?
52:40
Just our bio Dirt Engraving LLC. Yeah, you.
52:42
Just started that right. Yes, Sir.
52:44
Is it just you? No, we got a couple buddies and
52:47
stuff that are in it too. Got some skin in it and stuff
52:50
and it is mainly me. I mean, we're like we're babies
52:55
with it. We're just getting started.
52:57
So yeah, we but I got a couple buddies that think sure are good
53:01
people have in your back pocket. I try to be real loyal.
53:05
So I got I got only people I trust with stuff like that.
53:10
So I mean people I trust with anything, like everybody I've
53:14
ever hired for anything I've ever done has always been in my
53:18
circle. Yeah, you got to make sure
53:19
you're bringing the right people.
53:20
Around, absolutely, yeah. Yeah.
53:22
And I was always like, it's funny, but I was always obsessed
53:24
with like, gangster movies or like mob movies, you know what I
53:27
mean? Well, they're all like.
53:28
They're all loyal. Yeah, absolutely.
53:30
That's huge for me. Yeah, for sure, the loyalty
53:33
piece of it. Yeah, it's the Mexican in me.
53:35
There you go. Well, there's there's there's a
53:37
lot about that culture. So my my ex-wife is Hispanic and
53:41
getting to understand that culture and kind of how I mean,
53:44
they're, there's a lot of loyalty there.
53:46
Yeah. And he and that whole like
53:48
analogy, he messed with one being, he messed with the whole.
53:50
Burritos. Oh yeah, no, I, I mean, yeah,
53:52
yeah, I. Mean, you know, there's a prime
53:55
example. I jump on the fence after some
53:57
some Bush remarks. Oh yeah, no, that's just, yeah,
53:59
he's in our bio. Yeah.
54:01
No joke. We'd all do that.
54:02
Yeah, yeah. That's just how we were raised,
54:04
though. That's how my dad is.
54:05
My dad's a real GI feel like, like he's a he's a paper G, but
54:10
he was raised on the streets of Albuquerque.
54:11
Yeah. You gotta be tough to come from
54:13
there. Yeah, yeah.
54:14
I mean, he, I mean, he was a middle linebacker to ASU.
54:16
He's dangster, the toughest guy you've ever met.
54:19
I saw some pictures of him and I was like damn.
54:21
That's a big yeah. He's a monster dude.
54:22
Yeah, yeah. And he's like a big old well, to
54:25
me, I mean, he's dad, so he's a big old teddy bear.
54:28
But yeah, yeah, I've. Seen did Did he haze for you?
54:32
At the circuit finals or at all. My whole life.
54:34
Oh, my whole life. OK, Yeah, yeah.
54:37
He's always hates for me. We've always had horses.
54:39
Yeah. So I've, I've switched my buddy
54:42
Justin Simon has a really good horse round here.
54:44
He's and I don't know if he's honestly, to me, he's the best
54:48
one I ever rode. Like, I don't know if he's just
54:51
got that speed or whatever, but to me personally, he just fits
54:54
me so well. And Simon on this side and
54:57
everything is just such a everything clicks, you know,
55:01
it's always like that, but it's always been my dad, Hazen.
55:03
That's cool, man. Yeah, I think I saw a picture on
55:06
your on your Instagram and I just thought like, man, how cool
55:10
would that be to be a father and just be able to be there and
55:13
just watch your son like write front row seat.
55:16
Dude, so much pressure, so much pressure for him.
55:19
Yeah, he he hates it. Like he loves to hate it, You
55:22
know what I mean? But like he's always all through
55:25
high school, they can't haze in college, but at the pro rodeo is
55:28
through college because he was still rodeoing too.
55:30
So yeah, he'd always haze. And then now and then he haze
55:36
for my brother all through high school.
55:37
And at the my brother made the junior NFR for like 3-4 times.
55:41
So he hates for him there. Yeah.
55:43
So it's always Dad's always there.
55:45
That's awesome. Yeah.
55:45
And he, I mean, he, I mean, he, he keeps us rolling, though,
55:48
like he keeps, especially my brother, my brother, my
55:51
brother's got some real talent. So he's, he keeps him, you know,
55:54
mounted and make sure everything is right with him.
55:57
And he, my brother's on a full ride scholarship.
55:59
Tarleton State right now. Oh, wow.
56:01
Yeah. Tarleton for rodeo is like the
56:03
Alabama rodeo. Really.
56:05
Yeah. Where's that at?
56:06
Stephenville, TX OK, Yes Sir, right in the capital.
56:10
Full ride. Dang, right, he gets paid to be
56:12
there. Wow, that's cool.
56:14
Yeah, and he only Bulldogs. Really all he does.
56:17
Not a lot of bulldoggers. I mean, I can Tuck is the only
56:20
other one I know, but that went to college just a Bulldog.
56:23
And they're they're like full ride scholarship, just a
56:26
Bulldog. How?
56:27
How is like a college rodeo circuit like?
56:30
Are you guys going to different colleges to compete?
56:32
Yeah, so every, every college has like their college rodeo or
56:36
whatever. So like their home game and you
56:39
go to all of them and then there's a team.
56:42
So the coach picks, you know, whoever on the team that he
56:46
thinks is going to win. And then I think there's six
56:50
guys and four girls on the team. And then in the region, if
56:55
you're the top two teams, you go to the college finals.
56:57
And if you're the top three in your event, you go to the
56:59
college finals. Oh well.
57:01
So. What What are the top colleges
57:03
for rodeo? Honestly, Tarleton, New Mexico
57:06
State, those are the two best ones I know.
57:10
Yeah, I'm just kidding. All the mother ones, boys could
57:14
get freaking smacked. They suck.
57:15
No, I'm just kidding. No, there's a lot.
57:19
There's so much more than you think.
57:21
Like it's funny, Like ASU when I first started called Rodeo and
57:24
ASU had a team. I don't know if they do anymore.
57:27
U of A has a team for sure. They always have had a team.
57:31
CAC, Central Arizona, it's in Casa Grande.
57:35
They have a damn good team. Like they were always our rivals
57:38
in the region. So like the region here, same as
57:42
like our circuit is Arizona, New Mexico.
57:45
And then like California, they have what, the West Coast
57:50
region, which is California and UNLV pretty much.
57:53
And then they have trying to think, I can't remember what the
57:57
Columbia River 1 is, but pretty much wherever the circuits are,
58:00
they have a region for their. And then like where my brother
58:03
is, they just, they had one giant Texas region, but there's
58:06
so many schools in Texas that they split it in half.
58:08
Oh, OK. There used to be like 300
58:10
breakaway ropers in the region. Yeah.
58:12
Now there's 150, which still is. That's still a lot.
58:14
Yeah. I mean, them girls make a living
58:16
during that stuff. Yeah.
58:17
I'd pay good. Yeah, we had a breakaway Roper
58:20
on. Yeah, yeah, I know her.
58:22
Yeah, Kylie. Yeah, yeah, I know her.
58:24
She's cool. She's nice.
58:28
Yeah, I know that Iowa State has a team because Tyler's girl
58:32
ex-girlfriend went and rode there.
58:33
Oh yeah, dude, everywhere. Yeah, yeah, I didn't.
58:36
Even know college rodeo was a thing.
58:37
I know. Oh, yeah.
58:38
And it's, it's like like a New Mexico State.
58:42
You didn't really see it, but like Tarleton, where my brother
58:44
is, you really see it. Like the alumni really, like,
58:47
give them money. And yeah, yeah, there's a lot of
58:50
money in that school for the rodeo.
58:52
When you when you go to college for rodeo, yeah.
58:55
Do they provide the horses the? Saturn.
58:58
No, it's all your stuff. Yeah, you're bringing your own.
59:00
Yeah. You're you're you're you're the
59:03
sole proprietorship into it. But they're like the overall You
59:08
rodeo for New Mexico State, you know what I'm saying?
59:10
Or you rodeo for Tarleton State. You still individually rodeo and
59:14
try to do the best you can 'cause you still want to make
59:17
the college finals. OK, but you're writing for your.
59:19
School. But you're writing for your
59:20
Yeah, you're representing your school.
59:22
Gotcha, Gotcha. OK.
59:24
But, and I mean all they do, they give you a practice
59:26
facility, they give you steers. My coach back then, I was, he
59:31
seen me, I was like dropping weight.
59:32
And usually it's freshman 15, you know what I mean?
59:34
You're supposed to put on weight.
59:35
But I, I, I had no money. So I was like, man, I'm just
59:39
gonna, I was eating frozen yogurts from the dollar store
59:43
and I was surviving on them. And monsters.
59:45
I used to be obsessed with monsters back in the day.
59:47
So like the off brand, yeah, the off brand like Mexican monsters,
59:51
you know, that's probably just straight battery acid.
59:53
I was, and buying those. And he's like, and he's seen me
59:56
losing weight and he's like, dude.
59:58
And New Mexico State, they I mean, the alumni take care of
1:00:01
you good down there too. But he handed me a stack of gift
1:00:04
cards for like fast food places like this and was like, here,
1:00:07
this is what you're. Gonna go get.
1:00:08
Yeah, yeah, that's why I said he's like that dude once he
1:00:11
'cause I was starving to death, me and my dog were going to
1:00:14
Dollar General and living off whatever we could find Dollar
1:00:17
General for whatever we counted, you know what I mean?
1:00:19
So when he handed me that, I'm like, damn dude, you're, you're
1:00:23
a St. you know what I mean? You're a real dude.
1:00:26
I just feel like if you're getting a scholarship there, you
1:00:29
know, and you're representing them like they could at least
1:00:32
give you like a meal card or. Something absolutely.
1:00:34
Like my brother has one. Yeah, my brother.
1:00:36
And it's just changed a lot, you know?
1:00:39
I mean, that was 10 years ago now.
1:00:41
I'm old, you know? Yeah.
1:00:43
Well also too, I'm sure your brother could get it like the
1:00:46
whole nil stuff, right? Like he could get.
1:00:49
Like the, like the football players.
1:00:51
Yeah. I don't know.
1:00:53
I mean, for now, like for what he got for this first semester,
1:00:58
in my eyes, he's same type of thing, you know what I mean?
1:01:02
Like they didn't do or my school, they didn't do that, but
1:01:05
how they're taking care of them there.
1:01:07
Yeah. But I mean, New New Mexico's
1:01:10
such a poor state in general that, you know, I don't think
1:01:12
the school could. All they had was just yogurts.
1:01:15
Yeah, pretty much, dude, I was. And Mexican monsters.
1:01:18
Yeah, I couldn't even tell you what they were called.
1:01:21
That's they were just green and black.
1:01:22
You know how you see like the hot cheetahs?
1:01:24
Yeah, they might have been, but they they were keeping me
1:01:27
steady. And then I would somebody around
1:01:30
there after practice would have some keystone lights, you know?
1:01:33
So yeah, you're alright. You survive.
1:01:36
There's your carbs. Balling on a budget?
1:01:38
That's what I Yeah, Hell yeah. But I always had enough like my
1:01:41
dad back then, like my dad does, my dad's all like does well,
1:01:44
now, you know, but back then he was still, he's still busting
1:01:47
his ass. So he, I mean, he'd give me what
1:01:49
he could, But like I always, I always had enough to go to the
1:01:51
rodeos and my horses were all well, we're not going to say how
1:01:56
I was feeding them, but I was feeding them.
1:01:57
I was keeping them fat. You know, the school's hay that
1:02:00
was there. Should I admit it right now?
1:02:02
I don't know. But the school's hay that was
1:02:03
there. I would Dang sure use some of it
1:02:05
too sometimes, but I was broke, you know what I mean?
1:02:10
Exactly. I pay, I'll pay for it now if
1:02:12
they need me to maybe a squeeze in total, you know what I mean?
1:02:16
But I had to do what I had to do.
1:02:17
And I I'm pretty sure my coach knew like because I remember he
1:02:21
had a meeting about it and he's like, hey, there's some hey guys
1:02:24
that's been getting fed and it's not getting fed by the brawl
1:02:26
course. And he's just looking at me the
1:02:28
whole time, and I'm like, yeah, that I can't say.
1:02:32
Yeah, yeah, pretty much, yeah. Who's doing that?
1:02:34
I guess. Weird place for piano, do you?
1:02:40
Plan on getting your own horse, your own steer wrestling horse
1:02:44
at some time or. Yeah, like my me between me and
1:02:47
my brother, like my brother's 19.
1:02:50
So I mean, he's just getting started.
1:02:51
So there we got to keep the both of us, you know, good, good legs
1:02:56
underneath us and stuff. My like we got a good yellow
1:03:00
there that I went like I went Kingman on him.
1:03:04
I wrote him at Prescott. He worked good there.
1:03:07
I I took him for a few months and he was really good.
1:03:12
But he, I think he's just not 100% sound right now.
1:03:17
And then my brother went to college, so Simon had that
1:03:20
horse. And I've, I really like that
1:03:21
horse. So either even if I get my own
1:03:23
right now, I'm still riding that one in my buddy.
1:03:25
OK, Absolutely. He's just, he fits me too good.
1:03:28
Yeah. I'd rather invest in paying
1:03:31
paying him than not, you know, not having a horse that good.
1:03:35
Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, it's better.
1:03:38
How do they train a a horse to do that?
1:03:41
I mean like, 'cause you know, you could train.
1:03:43
A barrel horse, just keep up just kind of you a lot of times
1:03:49
they're like blown up head horses.
1:03:51
They're not blown up. You don't want a blown up horse.
1:03:53
So that you want. So like our last good one that
1:03:57
we, that I traded for, we, he could have either went to the
1:04:01
NFR as a head horse or went to the NFR as a bulldog and horse.
1:04:04
Those guys that make the NFR head and you know what I mean?
1:04:07
They don't want something that's going to be ready and some they
1:04:09
want something that stands in the box, scores and runs, you
1:04:13
know what I mean? As fast as he can for this short
1:04:15
amount of time and then, you know, go left or whatever his
1:04:19
problem was if you went past that, he's going to keep
1:04:21
running, you know what I mean? He's he doesn't want to slow
1:04:24
down. Yeah, it's a race to him, you
1:04:26
know what I mean? And it's weird because
1:04:29
everything cow bred, you're breeding a horse to say behind
1:04:32
the cow, you know what I mean? Not let the cow go by him, like
1:04:36
cutting any sort of cutting bread, you know what I mean?
1:04:38
They're keeping the cow from that herd.
1:04:40
Bullogging horse, You're pretty much taking that cow right out.
1:04:45
But they need some cow too, you know what I mean?
1:04:47
They got a cow up and get near the steer and but they got to go
1:04:51
by him. They got to have no problem
1:04:52
running by him. So you just run them like you'll
1:04:55
feel them that you know, when a bulldogging horse and he has
1:04:57
that swag and stuff, you just know he's going to make a
1:04:59
bullogging horse. So like my brothers or my dad's
1:05:03
yellow horse or brothers or both of their yellow horse, I guess
1:05:08
you like you ride him and you look at him, you can just tell
1:05:11
he might kick you when you walk by just for fun, you know what I
1:05:14
mean? And then a bullocker scratch him
1:05:17
on the butt. Don't do that again, jerk.
1:05:19
You know what I mean? But you better run fast.
1:05:21
Yeah, yeah, but if you slow down, I'm going to freaking
1:05:23
spank you on the butt. You better run faster, you know,
1:05:26
or whatever. But yeah, they just have to, I
1:05:28
don't know, they just have that and then you just run by them
1:05:30
and you know, after the first one you run by if you're going
1:05:33
to get off on the next one or run by a few more.
1:05:36
So when's the next rodeo for you?
1:05:39
I don't know, I, I, we're talking about going to Denver,
1:05:43
but I just, I feel like I need a rodeo smarter, you know what I
1:05:47
mean? And I, I feel like in Arizona in
1:05:49
the winter, in the spring, there's enough money to win here
1:05:52
to get you into good summer rodeos.
1:05:54
You know what I mean? You could waste 6 grand going to
1:05:57
Denver three times or you can spend that 6 grand going to 20
1:06:01
of them over the 4th in one week.
1:06:03
You know, like, Oh yeah. So you just, I feel like it's,
1:06:07
it's taking a long time to learn that.
1:06:09
So when I was 22 at Dang grad, I've been going to Denver and
1:06:13
wherever else they'd let me put my name down.
1:06:15
But I feel like I don't have the like, I have great sponsors, but
1:06:19
I don't have the sponsors to go to every one of them and I don't
1:06:21
have the budget to go to every one of them.
1:06:23
Yeah. So you got to kind of be
1:06:25
methodical about it. Completely.
1:06:27
Yep, completely. Choose the ones that you really
1:06:29
need to go to. Yeah, absolutely.
1:06:31
Yeah. And my dad used to always say
1:06:33
that and I thought he was just being ornery, you know, but I
1:06:36
think he was actually trying to, I think he was actually trying
1:06:38
to help me. And he was just like, man, you
1:06:41
don't need to go to that. You're going to waste your
1:06:42
money. You know, you go to Denver and
1:06:44
that's cool if you win or if you, you know, go there three
1:06:47
times and you got to spend 6 grand to go every time and you
1:06:51
win 7100. It's not very smart business
1:06:55
decision, you know what I mean? You got to go for a month.
1:06:58
So you'll be there for a month. Make 1100, you're not going to
1:07:00
be doing very well. You'll be spending that 1100 get
1:07:03
back home or to go back to go to Texas, go to them rodeos.
1:07:07
So, and I've been to all of them, you know, and I they're
1:07:09
hard. You know, you got to, you got to
1:07:12
figure out where you can win at, you know, if you're just
1:07:15
entering, if you're trying to enter against them.
1:07:18
Fifteen guys just got done last week and you're not ready to,
1:07:22
you're not sharper than them. You ain't going to beat them.
1:07:24
Yeah, where's the ROI? Right.
1:07:26
Yeah, yeah. Where's my money?
1:07:27
What? Best, yeah.
1:07:29
Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
1:07:30
So you just, it's taken me a long time and like here through
1:07:34
the winter, I can work and I could keep my businesses going
1:07:38
and I could steal rodeo and I could still win, you know, 20-30
1:07:42
thousand out of the winter here. And you know, Southern Cali or
1:07:46
wherever we go, I'll probably go back to the California run.
1:07:48
That was great and that really fit my style out there.
1:07:51
So I'll probably go back out there.
1:07:53
But I don't know, I just feel like I got to do it smarter now,
1:07:57
you know what I mean? I don't think you got to jump in
1:07:59
on my first rodeo and try to enter all of them because you'll
1:08:02
be broke by February. Yeah, that makes sense.
1:08:05
Yeah. And you'll be right back where
1:08:06
you were anyways. That's.
1:08:07
Crazy, man. I never knew all that, you know,
1:08:11
going into or just watching all the rodeo stuff and everything.
1:08:15
Yeah, kind of coming. Into the.
1:08:17
Yeah, exactly. And like you got to earn that
1:08:20
stuff, you know what I mean? I mean like literally earn it.
1:08:22
Like those those boys that are making it, those are, I mean,
1:08:27
they put everything into it. You know, they're not just some
1:08:30
guys on TV 10 nights in a row. You know, they're, they're Dang
1:08:34
sure hundreds of thousands of dollars invested into it and
1:08:38
their entire lives revolve around it.
1:08:41
Yeah, you know what I mean? And that, I don't know, it's
1:08:44
just just like a stepping stone type thing.
1:08:46
You gotta earn it right. How did how did the the name
1:08:51
Bulldog come about? Oh, it's cool, actually.
1:08:54
So I had to do AI had to do a book report on this one time.
1:08:57
There was a old black guy named Bill Pickett and he invented
1:09:01
bulldogging. And he was on the ranch once and
1:09:05
he didn't have a rope. And this bull was getting off or
1:09:09
cow or whatever it was, you know, and it was running off.
1:09:12
And so he's like, oh, how am I going to get that sucker?
1:09:14
So he runs up, jumps off his horse and he watched a bulldog
1:09:18
grab it by the lip and flip it over once, like the day before
1:09:21
or whatever. So he's, he's seen the bulldog
1:09:23
do it. So he bit him on the lip,
1:09:26
flipped him over. Yeah, he actually then he's
1:09:29
like, man, that was fun, you know what I mean?
1:09:31
So he started doing it and Buffalo Bill found him and hired
1:09:37
him onto his, you know, show that he had back then.
1:09:40
And then he got, he got invited by the Queen of England to go
1:09:46
perform out there with all his band of heathens, pretty much.
1:09:50
And Bill Pickett did it and bit that bull on the nose.
1:09:54
And the Queen's like, hell no. And she locked him up.
1:09:56
She said, that's animal abuse if I've ever seen it.
1:09:59
Yeah. And he.
1:10:00
So Buffalo Bill Cody had to bill him, bail him out of jail and
1:10:05
got him back here. And he's like, you don't quit
1:10:07
that. You keep it up and so then it
1:10:09
just evolves, you know? That's where it came.
1:10:11
Yeah, that's cool. Yeah.
1:10:13
And you see them old pictures, that is.
1:10:14
Yeah, it's cool, huh? You see them old pictures of
1:10:17
guys, and I mean them steers back then were they were man's
1:10:20
pretty stout. Yeah.
1:10:21
Walk, walk to school uphill both ways type stuff.
1:10:24
Yeah. Like my he's pretty much like my
1:10:26
grandpa. He's but he has he made the NFR
1:10:30
in the 60s and the 70s and I mean them all Herfers they run
1:10:33
were 750 plus big old frickin fresh and they would have them
1:10:38
fresh. So like fresh means they've
1:10:40
never seen any of that. They came out of the ranch.
1:10:44
Can you imagine going and getting a cow out in the desert
1:10:47
out here, putting him in the chute and you're gonna throw him
1:10:50
down and he's never even been chased.
1:10:53
That's insane. That is, yeah, you gotta have
1:10:55
'cause you don't know what they're gonna do.
1:10:56
You have no idea. And you're latching hold of
1:10:59
something that don't want you on its horns.
1:11:02
You know what I mean? I mean, if you draw a good one,
1:11:04
that's like, OK, yes, Sir. But for the most part, you're
1:11:06
going to draw probably 10 of them that they don't want no
1:11:09
part of you. Yeah, they're going to let you
1:11:11
know it. Absolutely, Yeah.
1:11:13
I mean, somebody grabbed you by the Dang.
1:11:15
You got something on your head and they grabbed you and tried
1:11:17
manhandling you around. You're going to say no, Sir, You
1:11:20
know what I mean? As much as you can so.
1:11:22
Your neck gets wet. Your neck.
1:11:24
Yeah. Then you see guys like Will
1:11:27
Loomis or like, my dad's size, and you're like, I'd say yes,
1:11:29
Sir, to him. I know.
1:11:31
That's a big one. Yeah.
1:11:32
Yeah. He's cool, too.
1:11:33
That's all. Wilbur.
1:11:34
He's a good dude. Yeah.
1:11:35
He's a good buddy of mine. I saw I saw the video where this
1:11:38
dude he was like about to jump on and like the steer kind of
1:11:42
turned his head and the horn just.
1:11:45
Right, like his whole. Body weight dude just jump like
1:11:48
just fell right on that horn dude and you could just see like
1:11:51
his chest just cave. In Oh yeah.
1:11:54
God damn man, that would suck. Yeah.
1:11:56
That's got to be. Yeah, yeah, I mean, you get
1:11:59
stuff like that, Yeah. You try to avoid that, you know
1:12:02
what I mean? I feel like if you're not like
1:12:04
mentally sharp, your stuff like that's going to happen.
1:12:06
I mean, shit happens in general, but yeah, I mean, I've had some
1:12:09
crazy stuff. I had one steer once that
1:12:12
stopped and rocked his head back and I ate the horn right here
1:12:15
and my nose is like over here and hit this tooth.
1:12:19
And then my I remember I called my dad, it was out of collar
1:12:22
rodeo. And I called my dad and I don't
1:12:24
even remember what I told him, like I was out of it, you know
1:12:26
what I mean? And my nose, it was over here.
1:12:30
And the have you ever had to fix your nose or nothing?
1:12:35
They put these tubes up it both sides and it lines it up.
1:12:39
That's why my nose isn't crooked, because I had a sweet.
1:12:42
We had a trainer at New Mexico State.
1:12:44
Michael Gregory was his name. He was a stud.
1:12:46
Like he was a badass. And when it happened, I was just
1:12:49
raging mad. I don't even remember.
1:12:51
He's like, alright, I'm going to pop your nose back, you're
1:12:53
ready. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:12:54
He goes, I'm going to do it on three.
1:12:56
And I said OK. And he just stuffs these pipes.
1:12:59
Up. Oh man.
1:12:59
Yeah, and it lines up all the way back up to your eyes.
1:13:03
Yeah, that one was. That one was brutal.
1:13:05
Oh, I bet. Yeah, you can't.
1:13:06
I was eating like that's probably where I got started
1:13:09
eating the froyo. But but anyways, yeah, I had a.
1:13:13
So you had money, you just, you just wanted to know.
1:13:15
I don't. Know it all went to medical.
1:13:17
I didn't win nothing at the rodeo, so I probably didn't have
1:13:20
no money at that time. But yeah, I mean, stuff like
1:13:23
that happens, you know, you get ribs and stuff.
1:13:25
But the other time we were, it was we got some sears from
1:13:31
Tayost here and we broke them in.
1:13:33
They're dead fresh Mexicans. They just just crossed the
1:13:35
border, you know what I mean? They hadn't been roped, hadn't
1:13:38
been nothing. Me and my brother threw them
1:13:40
down and they were all there. But it was best set of sears
1:13:43
we've ever thrown down, you know that.
1:13:44
We're keeping all of them and this one had sharp little horns
1:13:48
and I call them little devil horns, and they kind of go up
1:13:50
'cause you just know they're going to gut you.
1:13:52
Like you just can feel it every time.
1:13:54
And this one stuck his horn in my belly button and I freaking
1:13:58
threw him down and I ripped and his horn just straight across my
1:14:00
belly button. I got a big old belly button
1:14:03
now. Yeah, that one was that one
1:14:06
sucked, but other like it just happens.
1:14:08
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's part of.
1:14:09
It, yeah, it's part of it's, it's like you going into a
1:14:12
fight. If you don't expect to get
1:14:13
popped in the nose, then what are you doing?
1:14:15
Yeah, that's part of it. What I like about it too is
1:14:18
like, you only get that one, right?
1:14:19
You only get that one run, you know, and you got to make it
1:14:23
count. Yeah, Hell yeah.
1:14:24
There's no reruns. No, no, especially in the timed
1:14:27
events. Yeah, yeah, I've got, I don't
1:14:29
think I've ever gotten a rerun in the whole time I've ever been
1:14:33
bulldogging or anything. So like, I mean, they're rough
1:14:35
stock. They get rerides every day, you
1:14:37
know. Yeah, I don't think a timed
1:14:39
event, yeah. Well, cool.
1:14:42
So for all of those that are listening, you obviously you're
1:14:45
in real estate and now you're doing groundwork.
1:14:47
How do they get a hold of you? Man, just on Facebook, honestly
1:14:52
you'll find I got my number everywhere on one of my real
1:14:56
estate things has. Facebooks or it's your personal
1:14:59
that you're promoting it through?
1:15:00
Both OK, yeah, yeah, my realtor one has, I obviously have that
1:15:06
or Instagram, I mean either one of them, but yeah, mainly on
1:15:09
there. And then my dirt one, I still, I
1:15:12
have like 3 pages, 4 pages. So they're kind of sometimes I'm
1:15:17
like, I don't want to do that, you know what I mean?
1:15:19
When I feel like I could just kind of side do it and until it
1:15:21
gets to where I need to do that, but I probably need to do that.
1:15:24
Yeah. So, but it's it's all over on
1:15:27
there. We'll grab your handles and
1:15:28
we'll post those, too. Yeah, make sure people have a
1:15:30
way to get a hold of you so they can, yeah, use you for real
1:15:32
estate or for groundwork. Yeah, or just, you know, snap a
1:15:35
like on it. Yeah, make me look popular right
1:15:37
there you go. Follow.
1:15:39
Kind of fun. Yeah, Yeah, especially.
1:15:40
That's like, I think the hardest part of it, right?
1:15:43
What, at least for us, is just getting followers, man.
1:15:45
Oh yeah, dude, it's a pain. Go.
1:15:48
Subscribe on YouTube. Yeah, yeah, for.
1:15:50
Sure, right? Go subscribe on YouTube.
1:15:52
Follow the Instagram. Yeah, yeah.
1:15:56
It that's just, I don't know, when I was younger, I felt like
1:15:58
it was way easier, right, You know?
1:15:59
But now it's I think it's because you weren't trying.
1:16:02
Yeah. I mean, I don't even know if I'm
1:16:03
trying now. That's probably the bad part.
1:16:05
Like, yeah, my girl always yells at me about that, like I'll post
1:16:08
that or something, especially rodeo wise.
1:16:10
But I feel like everybody just wants to post their accolades,
1:16:12
you know what I mean? So it's like, I don't want to be
1:16:14
one of them guys. Like some people are so excited
1:16:17
to win just to post it. Yeah, you know what I mean?
1:16:19
Everybody's like that. Every single person.
1:16:21
I don't want to be that person. I don't want to just have a
1:16:24
reason to post like, oh wow, I won second.
1:16:26
You know what I mean? I only won $220.00, but I won
1:16:29
second, you know what I mean? It's like stupid to me.
1:16:31
But yeah, I need to be better at posting.
1:16:33
Post your practices man, that's what I would like to see.
1:16:36
Oh, really? Oh heck yeah.
1:16:37
See, I Oh, really? Just like the process, right?
1:16:39
Like that's that to me is what is more exciting.
1:16:43
Well, it's not more exciting, but it's as exciting to see
1:16:46
people win. But I like watching the process.
1:16:49
Yeah. You know, I want to see the
1:16:50
behind the scenes, like, like the whole dummy thing.
1:16:54
Yeah. I would love to see stuff like
1:16:55
that. I.
1:16:56
Think that's most consumers are that way though.
1:16:58
Like even when we we had Trevon and he was telling us how they
1:17:01
trained bucking bulls where they actually had a dummy that they
1:17:04
would put on, they had a remote release to it and stuff like
1:17:07
that. Like I had no idea that.
1:17:08
That Oh yeah. You know what I mean?
1:17:10
So like, there's a lot about this that nobody knows.
1:17:13
Oh, dude, yeah, there's so much there's.
1:17:17
So it's such a big world, you know what I mean?
1:17:19
But everybody has their own sliver of that world.
1:17:23
Every single thing has that sliver as well.
1:17:27
So like your sliver of the HVAC, well, yeah, you're HVAC, you're
1:17:31
doing great like this. But HVAC in general is this huge
1:17:34
thing and you can break it down so much, you know what I mean?
1:17:38
Every single thing with these animals or horses or rodeo is
1:17:42
all the same thing. You know what I mean?
1:17:44
Your neighbor here could be an A world champion equestrian guy
1:17:47
and you have no idea, you know, like it's such a broad
1:17:51
perspective of all of it that we just have one tiny little sliver
1:17:56
in and honestly, we have no say in any of it kind of deal.
1:17:59
You know what I mean? Well, it's gonna be fun to
1:18:01
follow you for sure, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:18:03
Cool. Yeah, for sure.
1:18:04
You guys too. It'd be fun, Yeah.
1:18:06
We'll get John again. Yeah, You gotta get your
1:18:08
girlfriend on. Yeah, she was.
1:18:10
Yeah, she was. Missed Rodeo Arizona last year
1:18:12
but yeah, we both have on Elise Cook.
1:18:15
Anna Elise Cook. Yep, Yep.
1:18:17
We. Yeah.
1:18:18
Well, I mean, I have, I have a bunch of stories.
1:18:20
We didn't even get into any of them.
1:18:21
That means we got to do another. Episode yeah, we could, yeah.
1:18:25
I mean, we used to put on bull ridings, we used to all kinds of
1:18:28
stuff. We can name off that, yeah, it
1:18:30
doesn't even scratch the surface.
1:18:32
So. Yeah, let's schedule another
1:18:33
another episode. With him down, dude, yeah.
1:18:36
Well, awesome. We appreciate you coming out,
1:18:38
spending some time with rad cast and you know, learn a little bit
1:18:41
about you. And like I said, he's doing real
1:18:43
estate, he's doing groundwork. So if you need him, hit him up.
1:18:47
Let us know. If you can't get a hold of him,
1:18:48
we'll help you. So other than that, man, we
1:18:51
appreciate you coming out. Yeah.
1:18:52
Thank you, guys. Yeah, thanks for the
1:18:53
opportunity. It's fun.
1:18:54
Yes, Sir. All right.
1:18:56
Thanks guys. You friends, everyone's going to
1:19:01
be friends and plus you better ride.
1:19:03
Like you ride?