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- 0:07Speaker 1: Get crosses in end to worry by both Rowley audio
- 0:12Speaker 1: heads it back in to able to find a boppe to.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Traffic twenty core World Talcos.
- 0:23Speaker 3: Gives trying to lead to the quarterfinal.
- 0:29Speaker 2: Let's getting beautiful?
- 0:32Speaker 1: Did you Saytan beautiful?
- 0:33Speaker 4: Yeah? I agree.
- 0:38Speaker 2: Soccer's just in bananas.
- 0:40Speaker 1: She really is, especially in this stage.
- 0:44Speaker 2: Yeah, no question about it. Good morning to you. It
- 0:48Speaker 2: is Chuck and Ashley with you as we roll into
- 0:51Speaker 2: our number two coming up here in about five minutes,
- 0:54Speaker 2: and Brad Evans we'll be joining us on the show
- 0:57Speaker 2: to talk about France advancing, but it's also about the
- 1:01Speaker 2: matches coming up over the course of the next couple
- 1:03Speaker 2: of days. And of course we haven't chatted with Brad
- 1:06Speaker 2: about Team USA being eliminated. Last time we had him on,
- 1:10Speaker 2: we were previewing USA Belgium with him that very day.
- 1:15Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Yeah, we really were. We thought we were going to
- 1:18Speaker 2: beat in Belgium, but it didn't turn out that way.
- 1:21Speaker 2: They invested us. So let's get to your headlines before
- 1:25Speaker 2: we bring in Brad. Aboard here on Chuck and Buck
- 1:28Speaker 2: on the boarding. We will start with the World Cup.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Why not France won over Morocco two to nothing. The
- 1:34Speaker 2: highlight there provided by Fox. It was a scoreless game
- 1:39Speaker 2: between Morocco and France for quite some time, but killing
- 1:43Speaker 2: and Bape scores the goal breaks the scoreless tie, and
- 1:47Speaker 2: then it kind of felt like France just toyed with
- 1:49Speaker 2: him from that point forward. So they're the first team
- 1:51Speaker 2: to advance to the final four. And then today you've
- 1:55Speaker 2: got Belgium and Spain at noon, Norway, England, Argentina, Switzerland,
- 2:00Speaker 2: and they will play on Saturday. Wimbledon finals will be
- 2:03Speaker 2: elt Saturday and Sunday. The women will play tomorrow at
- 2:06Speaker 2: eight am. The men will play tomorrow at eight am
- 2:09Speaker 2: our time. The Seahawks bid is down to two ownership
- 2:13Speaker 2: groups or at least two front runners, which we will
- 2:16Speaker 2: discuss a little bit later on in this hour. And
- 2:19Speaker 2: the Mariners lost to the Miami Marlins eight to four
- 2:23Speaker 2: yesterday in Miami. Swept by the Marlins. Swept. I mean,
- 2:29Speaker 2: I did warn you that's an improved Marlins team, but
- 2:32Speaker 2: you don't expect to get swept in that situation. And yesterday,
- 2:37Speaker 2: bad pitching, bad hitting with runners in scoring position again
- 2:41Speaker 2: and bad defense leads to the eight to four loss.
- 2:45Speaker 2: And so how do you get better, You got to
- 2:47Speaker 2: dust yourself off and play an even better team starting tonight.
- 2:51Speaker 2: The Tampa Bay Rays have the best record in the
- 2:53Speaker 2: American League right now by four full games. Nick Martinez
- 2:57Speaker 2: will start for them. Luis Castillo will start for us.
- 3:00Speaker 2: First pitch is at four to ten today and then
- 3:03Speaker 2: as soon as this series is over, we just slide
- 3:05Speaker 2: right in to the All Star Break. Part of the
- 3:09Speaker 2: All Star Week now is the MLB Draft, which will
- 3:13Speaker 2: get started tomorrow at ten am. The Mariners have the
- 3:16Speaker 2: twenty fourth pick overall in the draft. The Futures Game's
- 3:19Speaker 2: going to be held on Sunday. That will feature Kate
- 3:21Speaker 2: Anderson and Ryan Sloan, so that might be worth a
- 3:24Speaker 2: look if you're a Mariners fan. Home run Derby's going
- 3:28Speaker 2: to be on Monday, and believe it or not, it's
- 3:29Speaker 2: going to be on Netflix, not on normal cable television.
- 3:34Speaker 2: It's going to be on Netflix, So if you don't
- 3:36Speaker 2: have that streaming service, you know, might have to head
- 3:39Speaker 2: somewhere to watch it. And then the game will of
- 3:41Speaker 2: course be played on Tuesday, So there you go. Those
- 3:44Speaker 2: are your headlines. They are brought to you by Frost
- 3:46Speaker 2: Brewed Corps Light choose chill for goodness sake, I mean
- 3:49Speaker 2: win end oubt, just choose. I chose chill Monday, did
- 3:52Speaker 2: you Yeah? I did cors lights while I watched the
- 3:55Speaker 2: US lose to Belgium.
- 3:56Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that was the bummer. You chose chill us also.
- 4:00Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they put us on ice all right, joining
- 4:04Speaker 2: us and now on the program former sounder, a sounder
- 4:07Speaker 2: legend really, and he is really taken hold of this
- 4:10Speaker 2: broadcasting thing because he's been spectacular for US in our
- 4:13Speaker 2: World Cup coverage throughout the last few weeks here at
- 4:17Speaker 2: iHeart and on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.
- 4:20Speaker 2: And it turns out we can bug him twice in
- 4:22Speaker 2: one week and he doesn't even get angry with us.
- 4:24Speaker 2: Brad Evans joins us here on Chuck and Buck in
- 4:27Speaker 2: the morning. Good morning, Brad, Oh, good morning guys. Doing
- 4:31Speaker 2: all right? You sound sad?
- 4:33Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sad.
- 4:34Speaker 2: You're still sad?
- 4:35Speaker 5: Actually, oh yeah, I'm still sad. I actually just want
- 4:38Speaker 5: my money back. What do you mean the game on Monday?
- 4:43Speaker 5: I paid for those tickets and I left the game
- 4:47Speaker 5: and I want my money back.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Oh, welcome to what it feels like to be a fan. Brad.
- 4:55Speaker 5: You know what's funny in I think it was twenty
- 5:00Speaker 5: twenty eleven or twenty twelve, we played the La galax
- 5:03Speaker 5: year at home and we got smashed for nothing, and
- 5:07Speaker 5: all of our season ticket holders, all the fans, I think,
- 5:10Speaker 5: send emails to Adrian and their ticket reps and said
- 5:13Speaker 5: we want our money back for that game, and.
- 5:15Speaker 4: They did it.
- 5:15Speaker 5: And as a player, I couldn't understand because it didn't
- 5:18Speaker 5: feel like we didn't try in the game. Things just
- 5:22Speaker 5: on the day didn't work out, and I really didn't
- 5:24Speaker 5: understand it. And this is my first time paying paying
- 5:27Speaker 5: for a ticket to a soccer game, especially.
- 5:29Speaker 4: That amount of money. I could have bought.
- 5:32Speaker 5: Season tickets for the next two years for the Sounders,
- 5:36Speaker 5: And I left thinking the same exact thing, I want my.
- 5:38Speaker 4: Money back, and I get it. I get it.
- 5:42Speaker 2: Yeah, I laugh to keep from crying, because, yeah, that
- 5:46Speaker 2: was a that was a rough go and certainly unexpected
- 5:53Speaker 2: is the word I'm going to use. I mean, I
- 5:56Speaker 2: think that you were warning us man Belgium's really good
- 6:00Speaker 2: earlier this week and that this was not going to
- 6:02Speaker 2: be an easy match. But for them to have dominated
- 6:06Speaker 2: really from the beginning, certainly at the beginning and then
- 6:09Speaker 2: all the way through the match. How surprising and disappointing
- 6:13Speaker 2: was that for you?
- 6:14Speaker 5: Yeah, really surprising and disappointing that the atmosphere. I went
- 6:19Speaker 5: down with Jamie before the game and we left an hour.
- 6:21Speaker 5: We did our you know, the typical park line scooter
- 6:25Speaker 5: get into the whole crowd situation. I had never been
- 6:29Speaker 5: a part of anything like that where all of you know,
- 6:32Speaker 5: Occidental Square Pint whatever it was, was all shut down
- 6:35Speaker 5: and people were just everywhere. It was a zoo and
- 6:39Speaker 5: it was the most electric atmosphere I've.
- 6:41Speaker 4: Ever been around.
- 6:43Speaker 5: You know, you go an hour and a half before
- 6:44Speaker 5: the game, everyone hyped up. I did not see really
- 6:48Speaker 5: one Belgium jersey in a sea of red, white and blue.
- 6:52Speaker 5: We had a great time getting into the stadium, seeing
- 6:55Speaker 5: friends of old former teammates with the national team randomly
- 6:58Speaker 5: in the stadium. Everyone's home were super high, and then
- 7:02Speaker 5: you get the fly over with the four Jets and
- 7:05Speaker 5: just was pumped, and then the whistle blew and it's
- 7:08Speaker 5: like something completely changed and we are all still trying
- 7:12Speaker 5: to figure this thing out of what happened. All of
- 7:16Speaker 5: my friends, former colleagues players, no one has an answer
- 7:20Speaker 5: and I don't think we've heard an answer in the
- 7:22Speaker 5: press either from coach from the players as well. What
- 7:26Speaker 5: really would happened? Was it tactically just completely unprepared. I
- 7:31Speaker 5: think the biggest disappointment for me was this is a
- 7:34Speaker 5: World Cup. I didn't see anyone after the game falling
- 7:39Speaker 5: to the ground because they were so tired that they
- 7:41Speaker 5: put so much effort into the game. It looked like
- 7:44Speaker 5: both teams neither team really broke a sweat in the game.
- 7:46Speaker 5: To be honest, it felt very routine. It was a
- 7:50Speaker 5: walk in the park for Belgium. And disappointment, I think
- 7:54Speaker 5: is just the underlying theme here.
- 7:57Speaker 2: So if we don't have the answers buddies speaking to
- 8:01Speaker 2: the actual answers of why that would have occurred, what
- 8:05Speaker 2: is your best guest in terms of why there was
- 8:09Speaker 2: a lack of energy, why that Belgium seemed to be
- 8:12Speaker 2: a step ahead at all times? I mean, are you
- 8:15Speaker 2: willing this morning to lay it at the feet of
- 8:17Speaker 2: anyone in particular or any group in particular.
- 8:21Speaker 5: No, No, I think the opponent that we faced was
- 8:25Speaker 5: also we talked about it, you know this week already
- 8:28Speaker 5: before the game, was we're facing a Belgium team that
- 8:33Speaker 5: is a top ten team in the world, has been
- 8:35Speaker 5: for the last ten plus years, and a legit top
- 8:38Speaker 5: ten team in the world. That the way that people
- 8:41Speaker 5: rankings work, you play better teams, you get results, you
- 8:43Speaker 5: get higher rankings. Well, when you play in CONCACAF, most
- 8:47Speaker 5: of the teams except for Mexico Canada are ranked lower
- 8:51Speaker 5: than you, so you pick up points along the road
- 8:53Speaker 5: and your ranking goes up. The US hasn't really beaten
- 8:57Speaker 5: a really solid team in a long time, and I
- 9:01Speaker 5: think there's a little false when you look at the
- 9:03Speaker 5: FIFA rankings. There's a false narrative there that the US
- 9:07Speaker 5: is ranked as high as they are and they beat
- 9:10Speaker 5: teams that they were supposed to be in the group
- 9:12Speaker 5: stage and obviously Bosnia as well, and then they face
- 9:15Speaker 5: the team that is just a class above. I mean,
- 9:18Speaker 5: you look at it in every sport, you know, there's
- 9:21Speaker 5: teams that are just a cut above and top to bottom,
- 9:24Speaker 5: goalkeeper to striker, all the way through.
- 9:25Speaker 4: And that's what the US faced.
- 9:27Speaker 5: And they got another dose of reality, and US as
- 9:30Speaker 5: Americans got another dose of reality and where we stand.
- 9:34Speaker 5: So there's a lot of work to do, and this
- 9:36Speaker 5: isn't just about that team.
- 9:37Speaker 4: It starts with you soccer and all the way up.
- 9:41Speaker 4: And I think it is a good thing because.
- 9:43Speaker 5: Everything I'm reading online is how this whole system needs
- 9:46Speaker 5: to be changed. Well can it be changed? I don't know,
- 9:49Speaker 5: but it at least starts the conversation again of how
- 9:52Speaker 5: can we get more players to play at that level?
- 9:55Speaker 4: To be at that level, I don't.
- 9:58Speaker 5: Think there's a real clear cut answer or the pay
- 10:00Speaker 5: to play model. We could talk for hours and hours
- 10:02Speaker 5: about it, how expensive youth soccer is from a young age.
- 10:06Speaker 4: But we just faced a team.
- 10:07Speaker 5: That had it looked like men amongst boys in a
- 10:11Speaker 5: certain context.
- 10:13Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish you would get your money back. Brad
- 10:15Speaker 2: Evans is with us here on Chucking Buck in the morning.
- 10:18Speaker 2: First chance to chat with him since the US was
- 10:20Speaker 2: eliminated by Belgium on Monday. We had Brad on Monday
- 10:24Speaker 2: morning to preview that match. But you can hear it.
- 10:29Speaker 2: Payne's still there here on this Friday from that loss.
- 10:33Speaker 2: Christian polisics getting beat up by not just media types
- 10:37Speaker 2: you know and talk Mike myself or talking heads like
- 10:40Speaker 2: Steven A. Smith, but he's getting beat up by former
- 10:44Speaker 2: players for how poorly he played on Monday? Are you
- 10:49Speaker 2: going to join in on that one? And then number two,
- 10:52Speaker 2: is it fair? Is it fair for the media to
- 10:55Speaker 2: be as harsh toward Polisic as they seem to have
- 10:59Speaker 2: been this week.
- 11:01Speaker 5: You know, it stings for sure as a player when
- 11:04Speaker 5: you get criticized, But when you are of that caliber
- 11:07Speaker 5: and you've been on every commercial leading up to this
- 11:11Speaker 5: World Cup, every time you turn on the TV, it's
- 11:13Speaker 5: your face, You're going to naturally have to take the
- 11:16Speaker 5: brunt of all the criticism. And it's no different than
- 11:19Speaker 5: being a captain on any team, whether it's MLS or
- 11:24Speaker 5: around the world.
- 11:25Speaker 4: But when you're a player of that.
- 11:26Speaker 5: Stature and the expectations are there, and what he felt
- 11:30Speaker 5: in the twenty eighteen qualifying round not making that tournament,
- 11:35Speaker 5: you know, he put his everything into those games and
- 11:40Speaker 5: he was crying on the field afterwards and you could
- 11:42Speaker 5: see how much it meant to him. And then he
- 11:43Speaker 5: stepped into this game and just didn't have a great performance.
- 11:47Speaker 5: I think it's a little bit harsh looking back on
- 11:51Speaker 5: it now. Right Landon Donovan has been really vocal about
- 11:54Speaker 5: his performance in the last game. Carly Lloyd, a former
- 11:59Speaker 5: two times I'm you know, women's player of the year.
- 12:02Speaker 5: They were really harsh on him, and I get.
- 12:06Speaker 4: It, though.
- 12:07Speaker 5: If you go to Europe and read the papers, you
- 12:10Speaker 5: have to imagine that there's no football, basketball, baseball, hockey.
- 12:14Speaker 5: Everything surrounds soccer, and the pressure that those players feel
- 12:18Speaker 5: in tabloids, especially in normal news. It's on every news station,
- 12:24Speaker 5: on TV. There's no other sport, so you kind of
- 12:27Speaker 5: have to wrap your head around extrapolating all that and
- 12:30Speaker 5: the pressure they feel on a weekly basis. I don't
- 12:32Speaker 5: think it's anything new for Christian. Of course, it's new
- 12:35Speaker 5: coming from within his own country, but he's been playing
- 12:38Speaker 5: outside the US since he was, you know, fourteen fifteen
- 12:41Speaker 5: years old, so I think he's used to it. He's
- 12:44Speaker 5: felt pressure before and the expectation of what he can
- 12:47Speaker 5: and should be. You know, in the playoffs, in a
- 12:51Speaker 5: knockout round game, I had pulled a piece of bone
- 12:54Speaker 5: off my ankle. Well, it had already swollen up in
- 12:57Speaker 5: the you know, sixtieth minute, and I told the trainers Tapic,
- 13:00Speaker 5: I'd be profe and Tom and all, I'm finishing the game.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Sometimes it's the mentality thing. Sometimes it's the pain threshold thing.
- 13:07Speaker 5: Omar Gonzalez, who I saw at the game, played in
- 13:09Speaker 5: a World Cup two or three ligaments in his ankle
- 13:11Speaker 5: in the seventy fifth minute, said tape it, I'm finishing
- 13:14Speaker 5: the game. So you kind of go back and forth
- 13:16Speaker 5: between what's best for the team and what's best for
- 13:19Speaker 5: the player. In that moment, maybe he was too injured
- 13:22Speaker 5: to proceed. He wasn't having the best game either, So
- 13:26Speaker 5: there's pressure with being the captain of a team and
- 13:29Speaker 5: high expectations and being on TV. But you have to
- 13:31Speaker 5: be able to shoulder it and move on to the
- 13:33Speaker 5: next thing. I think it's fair because I think their
- 13:36Speaker 5: message is a broader statement about where US soccer's at
- 13:40Speaker 5: and where we can be. It's not just about his performance.
- 13:45Speaker 5: No one on that pitch had a good performance. But
- 13:48Speaker 5: he's the captain. In my opinion, he's captain America. Tim
- 13:51Speaker 5: Reem's the actual captain, but he is supposed to be
- 13:54Speaker 5: the best player on the field and he didn't show
- 13:56Speaker 5: up on the day. So yeah, you're gonna get criticism.
- 13:59Speaker 2: I think it's represents true growth for the sport here
- 14:03Speaker 2: in America. I mean, even if it is criticism. Brad,
- 14:07Speaker 2: they were discussing it on formats platforms that typically ignore soccer,
- 14:13Speaker 2: and I think that every league could learn from this.
- 14:16Speaker 2: I think the WNBA could learn from this. Hey, getting
- 14:19Speaker 2: criticized and making headlines.
- 14:22Speaker 4: You know, the.
- 14:23Speaker 2: Bigger you get, the more critical the analysis becomes. And
- 14:28Speaker 2: that represents growth. That means you're actually starting to weave
- 14:33Speaker 2: yourself deep into the fabric of American culture. And so
- 14:38Speaker 2: to me, Christian Polisic getting hammered this week, you know,
- 14:41Speaker 2: feel bad for him, nobody. I'm sure he feels bad,
- 14:45Speaker 2: But I think that that represents true growth of the
- 14:48Speaker 2: sport here in this country, don't you.
- 14:51Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, it's not unlike any other sport.
- 14:53Speaker 5: We've been really spoiled as Sounders fans and season ticket
- 14:56Speaker 5: holders with the Sounders because you've only missed the playoffs
- 14:59Speaker 5: once since two thousand and nine. That's not the normal
- 15:02Speaker 5: case in most sports. But let's the Kraken for example,
- 15:07Speaker 5: or like you said, WNBA. You have to go through
- 15:10Speaker 5: criticism and failures to get yourself up to the next level,
- 15:13Speaker 5: to have that push, to have that push from the
- 15:15Speaker 5: fans and the expectations to be higher on your team organization.
- 15:20Speaker 5: That's a losing season for the Mariners you got to
- 15:23Speaker 5: keep pushing because your fans, at the end of the day,
- 15:25Speaker 5: you love the sport, and when you do win, it
- 15:28Speaker 5: makes it feel that much better that you know, you
- 15:31Speaker 5: were a fan, you were a part of it, you
- 15:32Speaker 5: were you know, voicing your opinion for the growth of
- 15:36Speaker 5: that team.
- 15:36Speaker 4: In particular, we're talking.
- 15:38Speaker 5: About a national team, so it's on an even broader scale.
- 15:41Speaker 5: You're taking everyone in this country, three hundred plus million
- 15:44Speaker 5: saying we want better.
- 15:45Speaker 4: But how do we get better? That is going to
- 15:48Speaker 4: be the big question.
- 15:49Speaker 5: But the rest of the world has had one hundred
- 15:55Speaker 5: year head start on our national team and we are
- 15:58Speaker 5: playing catch up since nineteen ninety four, to be honest,
- 16:02Speaker 5: was kind of the jumping off point. So we still
- 16:04Speaker 5: have a lot of work to do, a lot of growth,
- 16:06Speaker 5: and there's no clear cut answer. There's too many massive
- 16:09Speaker 5: sports in this in this country to say we're just
- 16:12Speaker 5: going to become a soccer nation. There's just this is
- 16:15Speaker 5: a giant melting pot. We have everything in this country
- 16:20Speaker 5: and it's growing, which is great, but we still need
- 16:22Speaker 5: to continue to put that pressure. But it needs to
- 16:24Speaker 5: be on ESPN. We need to talk about it consistently.
- 16:28Speaker 5: We have to not let this thing die most importantly
- 16:31Speaker 5: to keep the pressure on US soccer to get to
- 16:34Speaker 5: the next stage.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Yep, I agree. All right, So this weekend, who who
- 16:40Speaker 2: are we going to end up seeing in the final four.
- 16:43Speaker 2: You got France winning yesterday, so they're in. Let's just
- 16:46Speaker 2: rapid fire through the Spain Belgium. Who do you like?
- 16:52Speaker 4: I like Spain in that game.
- 16:54Speaker 5: I think Belgium they showed it against the US that
- 16:56Speaker 5: they've got the ability to beat an athletic tea. Now
- 17:00Speaker 5: you're going up in a Spain team that is incredibly athletic.
- 17:04Speaker 5: But also they've they've shown that they're they're the ability
- 17:07Speaker 5: to win World Cups and they've done it before. I
- 17:10Speaker 5: think Spain comes out in this one. I'm excited for
- 17:13Speaker 5: that one today. Then England Alway is probably probably the
- 17:17Speaker 5: most highlighted matchup so far in in the UH. In
- 17:21Speaker 5: this round, I was really impressed by France just smashing Morocco.
- 17:25Speaker 5: Morocco basically showed up without a fight, also similar to
- 17:28Speaker 5: the US, and I think that they just faced the
- 17:30Speaker 5: team that was a cut above. They've been my team
- 17:32Speaker 5: to win the whole tournament from the start.
- 17:36Speaker 4: England Norway is.
- 17:37Speaker 5: UH is an exciting matchup.
- 17:40Speaker 4: I think Holland has become this.
- 17:44Speaker 5: Lovable character in this whole World Cup where he's got
- 17:47Speaker 5: his YouTube blog.
- 17:48Speaker 4: He's basically become American.
- 17:50Speaker 5: He's said the greatest things about being in the US
- 17:53Speaker 5: and the fans, the fields, the.
- 17:55Speaker 4: Whole atmosphere surrounding the World Cup.
- 17:57Speaker 5: That's our I think little Cinderella store in this whole
- 18:02Speaker 5: World Cup and I'm exceeded excited to see what they
- 18:04Speaker 5: can do. They did it against Brazil, There's no reason
- 18:06Speaker 5: why they can't do it against England and then Argentina Switzerland.
- 18:10Speaker 4: We'll see.
- 18:11Speaker 5: We'll see in that one if we see Switzerland go
- 18:14Speaker 5: up to nothing and then somehow Argentina gets a result
- 18:17Speaker 5: in the last minute. Once again, it seems like they're
- 18:19Speaker 5: just they have no die in them, and that last
- 18:22Speaker 5: game was so epic against Egypt. You know, you can
- 18:27Speaker 5: talk about the refereeing here and there, but you still
- 18:29Speaker 5: have to put the effort in. That was that's been
- 18:32Speaker 5: the biggest thing so far. It's just if you put
- 18:34Speaker 5: in the effort, you're gonna find yourself with a result
- 18:36Speaker 5: coupled with your skill. In Argentina, certainly with Messi, if
- 18:40Speaker 5: he stays healthy, They're always going to have a chance.
- 18:44Speaker 5: These are really really awesome matches, and I think that
- 18:48Speaker 5: we've converted a casual fan to say, I'm in this
- 18:52Speaker 5: thing until until through the final, right, we want to
- 18:55Speaker 5: see who wins this tournament and that that has been
- 18:58Speaker 5: the best part about this world Yeah.
- 19:00Speaker 2: For sure. And and I've only got a minute. Maybe
- 19:03Speaker 2: we talk about this more on another visit. But what
- 19:08Speaker 2: is the experience like for Sounders when you guys would
- 19:11Speaker 2: return to the pitch after a World Cup event? Did
- 19:14Speaker 2: do you always get a boost? Does the MLS get
- 19:18Speaker 2: a huge boost from a World Cup year?
- 19:22Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, I think so.
- 19:23Speaker 5: I mean you're always going to find that new fan
- 19:25Speaker 5: that that pops out, and the Sounders have done a
- 19:27Speaker 5: great job. I mean, we'll play Portland next Thursday, so
- 19:30Speaker 5: I'll be three days before the final kind of in
- 19:32Speaker 5: the buzz around the game, and we're playing obviously our
- 19:35Speaker 5: biggest rival. They're going to open up most of the stadium, cheap,
- 19:38Speaker 5: cheap tickets to be had for that one. We want
- 19:40Speaker 5: to pack it in and we always have our first
- 19:43Speaker 5: match on us. So if you're a first timer to
- 19:45Speaker 5: a Sounders game, check it out online. You get the
- 19:47Speaker 5: opportunity to see a game for free. It is a
- 19:50Speaker 5: great opportunity to continue the buzz because the Sounders have
- 19:54Speaker 5: that atmosphere typically always have. I mean you yeah, some
- 19:57Speaker 5: games against Portland we've had sixty five tho in the stadium.
- 20:01Speaker 5: So there's no reason why you can't replicate that, and
- 20:03Speaker 5: if you want to be a part of it, certainly.
- 20:05Speaker 5: It's pennies on the dollar compared to a World Cup game.
- 20:07Speaker 5: Well let's keep recreating that atmosphere here in Seattle, keep
- 20:11Speaker 5: it going. And there's nothing like it to me. I mean,
- 20:15Speaker 5: we've been spoiled as Sounders fans to have these amazing
- 20:18Speaker 5: fans with thirty thousand plus every game. It's just you
- 20:23Speaker 5: have to continue that buzz. Get cheap tickets to bring
- 20:26Speaker 5: out the family, first match on us, whatever it is,
- 20:28Speaker 5: however we want to be in the building, just come.
- 20:31Speaker 4: Be a part of it.
- 20:31Speaker 5: The Rain are also doing a ton of promotions surrounding
- 20:35Speaker 5: the World Cup and it's going to be on grass.
- 20:37Speaker 5: They're going to keep that grass in the stadium for
- 20:39Speaker 5: that game, So another opportunity to see a world class
- 20:41Speaker 5: pitch in that stadium. That kind of speeds up the
- 20:44Speaker 5: game quite a bit. And it's against Portland like our
- 20:48Speaker 5: this is our hugest rivalry in all of Major League soccer.
- 20:52Speaker 5: It is a marquee matchup and it will be a
- 20:54Speaker 5: massive one for the Sounders. You have to use the
- 20:57Speaker 5: buzz to continue this thing going.
- 20:59Speaker 2: All right, awesome stuff, man, Thank you very much. We
- 21:01Speaker 2: appreciate it, and enjoy the matches today and tomorrow, and
- 21:04Speaker 2: we'll talk to you again next week.
- 21:07Speaker 4: We'll do all right, see guys.
- 21:08Speaker 2: Brad Evans joining us right here on Chuck and Buck.
- 21:11Speaker 2: All right, ABC's of the MS, come your way next.
- 21:13Speaker 2: Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ RFM. I love
- 21:16Speaker 2: it when a plan comes together.
- 21:18Speaker 4: It's awesome.
- 21:20Speaker 2: X y Z today on the ABCS of the MS.
- 21:22Speaker 2: Let's get it going. X's for excuses, I'm not really sure.
- 21:27Speaker 2: I mean, most people are bashing the hell out of
- 21:30Speaker 2: Dan Wilson, and I got a I'm in that. I mean,
- 21:33Speaker 2: you've heard enough of these shows if you listen regularly,
- 21:36Speaker 2: you know I've not I've been over I've been very critical,
- 21:40Speaker 2: maybe even overly critical of Dan Wilson to this point.
- 21:44Speaker 2: But those that are defending him seem to go down
- 21:50Speaker 2: the he's just a puppet route, which number one. I
- 21:52Speaker 2: don't think that that's an excuse for Dan Wilson. Have
- 21:55Speaker 2: a backbone, then stand up for yourself. Yeah, I know,
- 21:59Speaker 2: I know that when he took the job, he's there
- 22:01Speaker 2: were certain requirements that he had for taking the job
- 22:04Speaker 2: in the first place. I'm not going to be handled
- 22:07Speaker 2: this way, treated this with so he's Yes, there is
- 22:11Speaker 2: a huge involvement like there is in every front office
- 22:16Speaker 2: with the lineup decisions, rotational decisions rules that are put
- 22:21Speaker 2: in place. Every single front office has them. The Mariners
- 22:24Speaker 2: are no different. But Dan also has some individual powers
- 22:29Speaker 2: as well that they're not allowed to touch. And so
- 22:34Speaker 2: I don't think that's an excuse for Dan. I don't
- 22:36Speaker 2: think we can just excuse that this team's underachieved and
- 22:40Speaker 2: just say, oh, it's the front office pull in all
- 22:42Speaker 2: the strings. So that's that's where it starts. Secondly, that
- 22:46Speaker 2: we don't have managers that really do that much x's
- 22:50Speaker 2: and o's anymore. I mean, we don't hit and run
- 22:52Speaker 2: anymore steals. We pretty much just have a green light.
- 22:55Speaker 2: Maybe you'll tell somebody not to steal. I mean, but
- 22:58Speaker 2: that's side of the Mariners fallosophy. Like if you feel
- 23:01Speaker 2: like you can get there, Get there. Do you think
- 23:02Speaker 2: anybody's given Josh Naylor a steel sign? Never, He's never
- 23:07Speaker 2: never gotten a steel sign in his entire life. No,
- 23:10Speaker 2: everybody pretty much has. If you think you can get there,
- 23:12Speaker 2: get there. But we will tell you if we think
- 23:15Speaker 2: that you're running too much. Nobody hitting runs. We don't
- 23:18Speaker 2: bun anymore. There are no rarely do you see double switches.
- 23:22Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about a pitcher hitting if
- 23:24Speaker 2: you're facing a National League team. I mean, there really
- 23:27Speaker 2: aren't that many decisions. It's bullpen decisions and it's pinch
- 23:33Speaker 2: hitting decisions. That's it. And I don't think he's been
- 23:36Speaker 2: good at either one of those things. And then the
- 23:39Speaker 2: third thing, and this really has to be emphasized, is
- 23:43Speaker 2: there Because there's been a lot of conversation from Poachattino
- 23:47Speaker 2: with the soccer team to to now Dan Wilson, and
- 23:52Speaker 2: I read this online and I probably shouldn't even pay
- 23:55Speaker 2: credence to it, but I know that this conversation is
- 23:57Speaker 2: being held because I think it's being misinterpreted. When I
- 24:01Speaker 2: say a manager's job in baseball is to get the
- 24:04Speaker 2: most out of the talent given to him, that doesn't
- 24:08Speaker 2: mean that Dan Wilson needs to give a fiery speech
- 24:11Speaker 2: before every game. No, that doesn't mean that Dan Wilson
- 24:15Speaker 2: has to be a raw rock guy or wave palm
- 24:18Speaker 2: palms or anything like that. We don't need him to
- 24:20Speaker 2: be Herb Brooks from Miracle.
- 24:22Speaker 1: That's funny. I was just picturing him.
- 24:24Speaker 2: Yeah, before every game. We don't need him to be that.
- 24:27Speaker 6: Ever, we don't need closed door meetings. We don't need
- 24:30Speaker 6: open door meetings. We don't need him, you know, with
- 24:34Speaker 6: a red ass and finding guys left and right. That's
- 24:37Speaker 6: not what I'm talking about.
- 24:38Speaker 2: I'm talking about the simple fact that a manager's job
- 24:44Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball and the modern day is here's
- 24:47Speaker 2: the talent we're giving. You get the most out of it.
- 24:50Speaker 2: Does anyone think that we've gotten the most out of
- 24:52Speaker 2: this talent so far this season? Do you do anyone
- 24:55Speaker 2: think that this team hasn't underachieved? Raise your hand if
- 24:59Speaker 2: you think this was right. There are a few of you,
- 25:01Speaker 2: There are a few of you that every year think
- 25:03Speaker 2: they stink when they don't even stink. Right now, they're mediocre.
- 25:06Speaker 1: Right, but right, yeah, I don't see a lot of
- 25:09Speaker 1: hands up.
- 25:10Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, well certainly not here, But that's just it.
- 25:15Speaker 2: And I brought this this point up earlier. Rob Thompson
- 25:19Speaker 2: had done an amazing job with the Philadelphia Phillies. He's
- 25:22Speaker 2: the guy that sparked them because the previous manager wasn't
- 25:25Speaker 2: getting the most out of the talent that Dave Dombroski
- 25:28Speaker 2: and Philadelphia thought that they had. He's the guy that
- 25:31Speaker 2: sparked that. And then this year it looked like Rob
- 25:35Speaker 2: Thompson couldn't get his team to play, so they made
- 25:39Speaker 2: the uncomfortable decision of firing a very popular person with
- 25:43Speaker 2: the fan base and with the clubhouse on the simple
- 25:46Speaker 2: grounds of we're better than this and we're not gonna
- 25:49Speaker 2: let this season get away. We have a veteran team,
- 25:50Speaker 2: We're not gonna let this season get away from us.
- 25:53Speaker 2: And they put Don Mattingley in. And I don't know
- 25:56Speaker 2: if Don Mattingley's message is any better. I could promise
- 25:59Speaker 2: you he's not raw on pomp on me. That's not
- 26:02Speaker 2: Donnie baseball. But for whatever reason, the message changed and
- 26:06Speaker 2: the Philadelphia affilies immediately started playing good baseball, immediately started
- 26:10Speaker 2: playing good baseball. So I'm not here to tell you
- 26:14Speaker 2: that Dan Wilson should get fired. That's not what I'm saying,
- 26:18Speaker 2: even though I think it should be considered. But what
- 26:21Speaker 2: I am saying is the excuses from those that are
- 26:25Speaker 2: defending Dan Wilson have all kind of run thin. There's
- 26:28Speaker 2: no question he's not getting the most out of his
- 26:32Speaker 2: talent right now. And I don't care what means you
- 26:35Speaker 2: have to operate under in order to get the most
- 26:38Speaker 2: out of your talent. You're going to be judged based
- 26:42Speaker 2: on whether or not you are. That's that's just as
- 26:46Speaker 2: fundamental as it gets. Are we playing as well as
- 26:51Speaker 2: this talent suggests that we should be playing? And the
- 26:54Speaker 2: answer is absolutely not right now. How much more time
- 26:59Speaker 2: and a hundred sixty two game, six month campaign do
- 27:03Speaker 2: you give somebody to turn it around? Since we have
- 27:06Speaker 2: turned it around in the past after stinking for the
- 27:09Speaker 2: first three months of the year. Well that's left to
- 27:13Speaker 2: Jerry and Justin. But I'm not going to forfeit this
- 27:16Speaker 2: season just because we've got a sacred cow and Dan Wilson,
- 27:21Speaker 2: who was a popular player here in town. This team's
- 27:24Speaker 2: got to start performing and I'm gonna you know, the
- 27:27Speaker 2: bad al has given him a little bit of flexibility
- 27:31Speaker 2: and a little bit of leeway and a little bit
- 27:33Speaker 2: more of a runway. But yeah, I think he's got
- 27:35Speaker 2: till about the trade deadline to turn this thing around.
- 27:38Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's fair.
- 27:39Speaker 2: I think he's I think that's the if we're if
- 27:42Speaker 2: we're not playing good baseball by the end of this month,
- 27:45Speaker 2: then I think he needs to go.
- 27:49Speaker 1: That's just the job. That's the job, right, and you.
- 27:53Speaker 3: Still have time by the end of the month to
- 27:55Speaker 3: fix things and go on a run and put yourself
- 27:58Speaker 3: in a good playoff position.
- 28:00Speaker 2: I'm gonna go quickly through Y and Z because I
- 28:02Speaker 2: did say it's cool too, got Yeah, why is for Yandy?
- 28:06Speaker 2: Yandy Diaz is is not the star of the Rays,
- 28:10Speaker 2: but he's been there for a while, and Yandy Diaz
- 28:12Speaker 2: is kind of the blueprint though for the Rays, for
- 28:15Speaker 2: everyone that thinks the only way to win today in
- 28:18Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is by hitting home runs. We have
- 28:21Speaker 2: a lot of teams having very good years that are
- 28:23Speaker 2: in the bottom five and home runs this year. Yeah,
- 28:26Speaker 2: and the Tampa Bay Rays are pretty much the Marlins,
- 28:29Speaker 2: but a better version of that. They strike out the
- 28:33Speaker 2: least in the entire sport. They don't really hit all
- 28:36Speaker 2: that many home runs except from one guy, Junior Carmenaro,
- 28:39Speaker 2: who's a superstar. And they have a high batting average,
- 28:45Speaker 2: and they're smart on the bass paths, and they're aggressive
- 28:48Speaker 2: on the bass paths, and they have a good on
- 28:51Speaker 2: base percentage. That's how they win. That's how they win.
- 28:54Speaker 2: And then they always pitch well. They always find ways
- 28:56Speaker 2: to find pitchers that pitch well, and that's the way
- 28:59Speaker 2: they're winning this year. Fifty four and thirty seven, best
- 29:02Speaker 2: record right now in the American League. And finally, ze
- 29:05Speaker 2: is for Zany, because I know how Zany it looks
- 29:09Speaker 2: that are the American leagues look so weak and so
- 29:12Speaker 2: watered down. I'm just going to warn you for the
- 29:14Speaker 2: rest of the season. It's not as bad as what
- 29:17Speaker 2: you think. Yeah, a lot of teams have had disappointing seasons,
- 29:21Speaker 2: just like the Mariners. But I have a feeling right
- 29:25Speaker 2: now there are eight winning teams with winning records in
- 29:27Speaker 2: the National League. There are five in the American League.
- 29:31Speaker 2: I think we'll end up around seven and six. I
- 29:33Speaker 2: think that's probably where it's going to end up before
- 29:36Speaker 2: it's all said and done. Maybe the National League is better,
- 29:39Speaker 2: but not that much. The Blue Jays are going to
- 29:41Speaker 2: play better, the Red Sox have already started turning it around.
- 29:44Speaker 2: We're going to play better. I don't have any doubt
- 29:47Speaker 2: about that, And so I don't think the American League
- 29:51Speaker 2: is The American League is a lot of teams that
- 29:53Speaker 2: were expected to do good have had bad first halfs.
- 29:55Speaker 2: The Detroit Tigers are a good team and they're starting
- 29:57Speaker 2: to turn around.
- 29:58Speaker 4: Two.
- 29:58Speaker 2: We saw that last year with the Detroit Tigers. They
- 30:01Speaker 2: now won five straight. So they had a bad first half,
- 30:04Speaker 2: but they're starting to turn it around and they're back
- 30:05Speaker 2: in the wildcard race at this point. But I think
- 30:08Speaker 2: this thing's going to average out quite a bit. In
- 30:10Speaker 2: the National League. The Cardinals are supposed to be rebuilding.
- 30:13Speaker 2: They're not supposed to be forty eight and forty four.
- 30:15Speaker 2: The Nationals are supposed to be rebuilding. They're not supposed
- 30:17Speaker 2: to be forty eight and forty six. I mean, this
- 30:21Speaker 2: thing will start to even itself out in the second half.
- 30:25Speaker 2: And by the way, I don't know why you're rooting
- 30:27Speaker 2: for the American League to be better. Why are you
- 30:30Speaker 2: celebrating the fact that there are so many people out
- 30:33Speaker 2: there that are like that seem to be wanting the
- 30:37Speaker 2: American to be better? Right now, we need the American
- 30:41Speaker 2: League to be average.
- 30:42Speaker 1: Yeah, shouldn't we be happy that we're average?
- 30:44Speaker 3: In the American League is as average, if not less average.
- 30:49Speaker 2: Shouldn't we be like, whoo, good thing? The American League's
- 30:52Speaker 2: down in the first half. Good thing. We're not the
- 30:54Speaker 2: only ones in this underachieving boat that we're riding in
- 30:58Speaker 2: as opposed to this league and we can't even win
- 31:01Speaker 2: this league. I'm actually encouraged that the Mariners aren't the
- 31:06Speaker 2: only team in the AL underachieving in the first half
- 31:09Speaker 2: of the season. All right, coming up next, let's talk
- 31:12Speaker 2: about Seahawks ownership. For me, it's a really difficult topic
- 31:16Speaker 2: to discuss. How do you break it down? We'll figure
- 31:19Speaker 2: out a way. Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
- 31:22Speaker 2: R f M. I realized this is one of the
- 31:33Speaker 2: biggest stories of the year here in Seattle. Who's going
- 31:38Speaker 2: to own the Seattle Seahawks. Who's gonna be I'm not
- 31:41Speaker 2: underestimating just how hugely important that this is. I just
- 31:46Speaker 2: don't know how to evaluate it. I don't really know
- 31:49Speaker 2: how to turn it into a sports talk radio topic.
- 31:52Speaker 2: How do we know that these two contenders, Cosla and Matal,
- 31:56Speaker 2: if they're going to be good in FL owners. I
- 31:59Speaker 2: guess Osla has an association with the forty nine ers,
- 32:02Speaker 2: but I'm already judge questioning his character.
- 32:05Speaker 1: Right, so it already makes bad decisions.
- 32:07Speaker 2: Right exactly, and hangs out with the wrong people.
- 32:09Speaker 3: Yep.
- 32:09Speaker 2: So there's that. And then mattal is with the Boston Celtics,
- 32:14Speaker 2: so he's he's, you know, a big part of the
- 32:17Speaker 2: Boston Celtics, so he does definitely knows professional sports, and
- 32:20Speaker 2: they've been running a good organization there, so I suppose
- 32:26Speaker 2: there's a little bit of an experience, but neither of
- 32:30Speaker 2: them have run in ANFL team, right, I don't know
- 32:33Speaker 2: how good they're going to. I don't know how much
- 32:34Speaker 2: they know football. I don't know if if they were
- 32:37Speaker 2: the primary owner of a football team, if they're going
- 32:41Speaker 2: to come in here and just let it go, let
- 32:43Speaker 2: the operation go as well as it's been going. I mean,
- 32:46Speaker 2: I think it's a fool that comes in here and
- 32:48Speaker 2: tries to change things.
- 32:49Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 32:49Speaker 3: I also don't I don't love the idea of someone
- 32:52Speaker 3: owning the team who's.
- 32:53Speaker 1: Not from here.
- 32:54Speaker 2: I don't like that either.
- 32:56Speaker 1: I mean, because then.
- 32:56Speaker 3: At that point you're coming, you're trying to figure out
- 32:58Speaker 3: just how everything kind of works and operates here, and
- 33:01Speaker 3: you don't you don't have any investment really into the area.
- 33:04Speaker 1: Hmmmm. That worries me.
- 33:07Speaker 2: So, I mean there are a lot of things. I mean,
- 33:09Speaker 2: I guess we could do Taiale of the tape one.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Mattal's fifty and COSLA's seventy one. Okay, now you might say, oh,
- 33:16Speaker 2: fifty year old, because he looks like he's still twenty.
- 33:21Speaker 2: The guy, I mean, he looks like a Z's I'm
- 33:23Speaker 2: sorry from Parks and Reck. That's what he looks like. Meanwhile,
- 33:28Speaker 2: Cosla looks like ar Lee Ermie from Full Metal Jacket. Yeah,
- 33:32Speaker 2: that's who he looks like, but an Indian version of
- 33:35Speaker 2: ar Lee Ermie. So one's fifty and one seventy one.
- 33:40Speaker 2: Do you like the idea of having the older guy
- 33:43Speaker 2: that's a little more experienced, the seventy one year old
- 33:46Speaker 2: versus the fifty year old who might sleep with the secretary?
- 33:49Speaker 2: You know, is that something that you'd be more interested in?
- 33:53Speaker 2: But then you also have to consider the seventy year
- 33:55Speaker 2: old one year old. You know, we probably need to
- 33:58Speaker 2: vet his children because the oldest son's probably going to
- 34:02Speaker 2: be the owner of the Seahawks than in a few years,
- 34:05Speaker 2: And what if his kids are turds? I mean, do
- 34:07Speaker 2: we know about the kids? Have we evetted the kids
- 34:11Speaker 2: yet to make sure we're turd free on that front?
- 34:13Speaker 2: Is that something I haven't Yeah, exactly, That's something I
- 34:16Speaker 2: would think that has to be considered. They're both kind
- 34:20Speaker 2: of worth about the same. Coasla's worth like fifteen bill
- 34:24Speaker 2: and Mattal's worth seventeen bill. But Coesla is a self
- 34:28Speaker 2: made man. He's a venture capitalist. He kind of generated
- 34:32Speaker 2: all his wealth on his own, where Mattal dad he's
- 34:35Speaker 2: the real brains behind the operation. He's He's just the
- 34:38Speaker 2: heir to a steel fortune. I kind of like the
- 34:42Speaker 2: guy that's self made frankly. So I mean, if you
- 34:46Speaker 2: want evaluation, I mean, yeah, I can maybe pick apart
- 34:51Speaker 2: two people I have never met and will never know,
- 34:55Speaker 2: who have never owned a football team. And I'm not
- 34:58Speaker 2: sure exactly how much foot ball knowledge they have, or
- 35:01Speaker 2: if it's good that they don't have any at all,
- 35:03Speaker 2: because if they don't have any at all, then they
- 35:05Speaker 2: won't interfere, right, So I'm not really sure how to
- 35:10Speaker 2: assess two billionaires trying to buy your football team. And
- 35:17Speaker 2: so I recognize it as a big deal. But I
- 35:20Speaker 2: can't really tell you who's the better.
- 35:24Speaker 1: Choice, right and I can't.
- 35:25Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know either, and I the only thing
- 35:28Speaker 3: I keep hoping is that there's someone else that we're
- 35:30Speaker 3: just not hearing about that might have more some local
- 35:32Speaker 3: ties that could come out.
- 35:34Speaker 1: Of the woodwork.
- 35:34Speaker 2: Well where did Balmer go?
- 35:36Speaker 1: What's he doing with all his billions?
- 35:37Speaker 2: Yeah? I thought he was one of the front runners.
- 35:41Speaker 2: And according to reports yesterday, it's Matal and Cosla are
- 35:45Speaker 2: the clear cut front runners. Doesn't say they're the only two,
- 35:48Speaker 2: doesn't say it's down to two, but these reports are
- 35:51Speaker 2: suggesting that it's the Matal group, the Celtics group with
- 35:55Speaker 2: Wick Grossbeck, who I kind of like, but I've only
- 35:58Speaker 2: seen him like trying to be charming. Okay, what is
- 36:02Speaker 2: he behind the scenes? I have no idea, So that group,
- 36:06Speaker 2: and then Cosla, who looks rich man. He looks rich
- 36:10Speaker 2: he really does.
- 36:11Speaker 1: There are some people there just pull it off.
- 36:13Speaker 2: Oh he does. Look. You got to pull up a
- 36:15Speaker 2: picture of a nod Coesla because that guy. You can
- 36:21Speaker 2: tell that that shirt he's wearing costs like thousands of dollars.
- 36:25Speaker 1: He's taking the long sleeve T shirt game to a
- 36:27Speaker 1: new level.
- 36:28Speaker 2: Even though it just looks like, you know, one of
- 36:30Speaker 2: Ryan Heay's fifty eight T shirts that he has in
- 36:33Speaker 2: his closet. I guarantee you that one's worth like three
- 36:36Speaker 2: hundred thousand.
- 36:37Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably made of Angel's angel.
- 36:41Speaker 2: Dust, angel wings, Yeah, angel dust. I don't know if we.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Want a shirt made angel dust.
- 36:46Speaker 3: Yeah, that shows how much how many drugs I do.
- 36:51Speaker 2: So I don't know. I mean, I know we probably
- 36:53Speaker 2: should be talking about it, but that's about as far
- 36:56Speaker 2: as I feel I can talk about it. Yeah, that's
- 36:58Speaker 2: fair by me just raised my hands and saying, I
- 37:01Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know. They have a lot of money,
- 37:04Speaker 2: and I've not heard that they're criminals.
- 37:08Speaker 1: There you go, two good things.
- 37:10Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. I think it's a dead heat,
- 37:12Speaker 2: all right. O Cho's Next Sports Radio ninety three point
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