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- 0:13So that personal medical freedom and liberty are
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- 0:19American pulse brings together the top experts in
- 0:22health care related fields to keep you up
- 0:24being ahead.
- 0:28Well, hello, hello, and I am so excited
- 0:30to be with you today.
- 0:32This is Dr.
- 0:33Anchi Farella.
- 0:34I'm your host today on America Out Loud
- 0:36Pulse.
- 0:38We're on a different network now.
- 0:41Um, we're not doing looking for healing.
- 0:43You may recognize my voice and and some
- 0:45of my work on looking for healing on
- 0:48this same uh America Out Loud.
- 0:50News, but they've moved me to more prime
- 0:52time spot on Pulse.
- 0:55So I am doing a follow-up from last
- 0:57week.
- 0:58So I hope you listened in last week,
- 1:00because last week I had an amazing guest
- 1:02by the name of Human Khalili.
- 1:05And he is an amazing human being who
- 1:07has lived in San Francisco for a really
- 1:10long time, has been in you know, movie
- 1:13the movie industry, radio industry for years, and
- 1:15television industry for years.
- 1:18Um, kind of got out of that and
- 1:21now has a new passion for really exposing
- 1:25the um horrors of Sharia law and what
- 1:28exactly is going on in countries across the
- 1:32globe, um, specifically in regards to the treatment
- 1:35of women, the murdering of women um and
- 1:38children for that matter.
- 1:42And so last week we talked a little
- 1:44bit about um Human's mission and how he
- 1:47got there, and I'm gonna have him do
- 1:49a brief recap on that, but we have
- 1:51a follow-up this week because it's interesting.
- 1:54Last week I kind of um dove in
- 1:56and I was like, you know, let's just
- 1:58try, you know, let's just do this.
- 2:00We're gonna we're gonna do this, we're gonna
- 2:02talk about your stuff.
- 2:04And then he said, you know, I have
- 2:05this banner that I'd really like to display.
- 2:07And I'm like, cool, let's display it over
- 2:09in Webster, Texas on my building.
- 2:12And that's what we did.
- 2:13We got it up in a couple of
- 2:14days, which was miraculous in itself.
- 2:16Um, and really it went, it was it
- 2:19was actually not noticed for a couple of
- 2:21days until recently.
- 2:24And so that's what uh we're gonna chit
- 2:26chat a little bit about um today.
- 2:28But who mom, thank you so so much
- 2:30for just joining me again today.
- 2:32I know it was very last minute, but
- 2:34I'm like, hey, we need some follow-up because
- 2:36of what I sent to you last night.
- 2:39Well, first of all, Dr.
- 2:41Angie, such an honor to be back, and
- 2:43um yeah, I you know, I've done so
- 2:46many of these podcasts, and you never know
- 2:48what how the things are gonna play out,
- 2:51but 99% of the time, you know one
- 2:53thing from the podcaster, they just want a
- 2:56lot of information, they want you to be
- 2:59entertaining, but none of them will ever jump
- 3:01in the foxhole with you.
- 3:04None of them will ever grab their gun
- 3:06and walk on the front lines with you.
- 3:08You are one in a million.
- 3:10So let me just begin by saying thank
- 3:12you to you.
- 3:14Yeah, last time we uh we spoke.
- 3:17Uh, here's the recap.
- 3:19I said, Hey, I've got this banner, I
- 3:21want it on display, and you immediately said,
- 3:23put it on my building.
- 3:26Which just doesn't happen, which just doesn't happen.
- 3:29Now, you have to understand when someone offers
- 3:31the building, it's a it's a blessing and
- 3:33a curse.
- 3:35It's a blessing because hey, I've got a
- 3:37building, but the curse is I gotta find
- 3:40someone to print it, I've got to find
- 3:42someone to install it, and you gotta do
- 3:44it quickly.
- 3:46With art, you can't sit there and overthink,
- 3:49oh my goodness, I need to have the
- 3:51best launch party, I need to have the
- 3:54greatest speakers.
- 3:57Uh, you know, I need to create the
- 4:00best invitation with the most perfect font.
- 4:02You can't do any of that.
- 4:04You just have to get it up, and
- 4:06you have to leave it in the Lord's
- 4:08hands and just say, God, I'm gonna get
- 4:10this thing up, and you have to do
- 4:12everything else.
- 4:14And so miraculously you connect me with somebody,
- 4:16she printed it right away, she figured out
- 4:19an install date.
- 4:22I didn't know exactly when it was gonna
- 4:23go up.
- 4:25I jumped on a plane, I came to
- 4:27your hometown, and lo and behold, by the
- 4:30grace of God, it went up, and it
- 4:33went up so quickly, you weren't even there.
- 4:36You were at a dinner in Houston, right?
- 4:40That's right.
- 4:41I mean, I didn't even, I was like,
- 4:42oh my gosh, I'm like, I can't be
- 4:44in five places at once.
- 4:46So I was really disappointed not to be
- 4:47able to be there when watching it go
- 4:49up.
- 4:50But I heard you had an interesting inter
- 4:54uh I guess intercedence or a divine appointment.
- 4:59Whatever.
- 4:59Yeah.
- 5:00Yeah.
- 5:01So there was a very uh so look,
- 5:03the only people that were there for the
- 5:05unveiling were the the two dudes who sort
- 5:07of installed it.
- 5:09Uh one of your employees who took a
- 5:11picture of me standing underneath it, and as
- 5:13it was going up, there was a very
- 5:16beautiful Latina woman, and she ran across the
- 5:18street and she said, What is this?
- 5:20What is this?
- 5:22This looks so exciting.
- 5:23All these kids playing soccer on this banner.
- 5:26What is it?
- 5:27And I said, Oh, these are the kids
- 5:29that the Islamic regime has killed.
- 5:32And uh, this is in memory of them,
- 5:34and to let the world know that the
- 5:36Islamic regime of Iran killed children.
- 5:39And she looks at me and she says,
- 5:41I am dating a Muslim man.
- 5:45And I said, You are she says, Yes,
- 5:46I'm Catholic.
- 5:48Everyone tells me I should break up with
- 5:50him.
- 5:51There's no way I could support something like
- 5:53this.
- 5:54And she's telling me about her how conflicted
- 5:57she is in this relationship and how much
- 5:59she loves the banner.
- 6:02Um, and she's keeps saying, I'm I'm trying
- 6:04to figure out ways to respect the religion.
- 6:06I don't know what to do.
- 6:07I don't know why I've been with him
- 6:09for a year.
- 6:11So her and I have this exchange, she's
- 6:13super excited, and then last night I'm in
- 6:15Washington, DC.
- 6:17I'm here in DC for the they're having
- 6:20a rededication uh to America, and they're gonna
- 6:23have all these pastors and worship leaders on
- 6:26the national mall.
- 6:29Soon as I'm done with this interview, I'm
- 6:30gonna head over there.
- 6:32And I was at a cigar bar last
- 6:34night with a group of Christian men, and
- 6:36this one Arab woman walks over and she
- 6:38starts swearing at us.
- 6:41She said, I heard you say the word
- 6:42Israel.
- 6:44Why do you keep saying Israel?
- 6:45You guys don't know what the F you're
- 6:46talking about.
- 6:48And she's swearing up a storm.
- 6:50And then she says, What are you doing?
- 6:53What are you doing?
- 6:55I said, I make murals in support of
- 6:57the women of Iran who are being murdered
- 6:59for showing their hair.
- 7:00Hair.
- 7:01And her face changed so quickly.
- 7:01And her face changed so quickly.
- 7:04Oh my gosh.
- 7:04Oh my gosh.
- 7:05Well, why are you saying Israel?
- 7:05Why are you saying Israel?
- 7:07I said, Where are you from?
- 7:07I said, Where are you from?
- 7:08I think she said Lebanon.
- 7:08I think she said Lebanon.
- 7:10I said, Well, I went to Lebanon and
- 7:10I said, Well, I went to Lebanon and
- 7:11I went to Syria and Afghanistan and Qatar
- 7:11I went to Syria and Afghanistan and Qatar
- 7:13and the UAE.
- 7:13and the UAE.
- 7:15And I said, Can I put up a
- 7:15And I said, Can I put up a
- 7:16mural with a woman's hair showing?
- 7:16mural with a woman's hair showing?
- 7:18And all those countries said no.
- 7:18And all those countries said no.
- 7:20I said, Your country said no.
- 7:20I said, Your country said no.
- 7:21I said the only country that said yes
- 7:21I said the only country that said yes
- 7:23was Israel.
- 7:23was Israel.
- 7:26And you know, after 25 minute dialogue, she
- 7:26And you know, after 25-minute dialogue, she actually.
- 7:28actually extended her hand and said, I'm sorry
- 7:30for yelling at you, and I'm sorry for
- 7:32swearing at you.
- 7:35Wow.
- 7:37So just in a short amount of time,
- 7:39you know, there's been at least some positive
- 7:42dialogue.
- 7:44And I just want to say a huge,
- 7:47like uh, I just want to give you
- 7:50a huge accolade because you know, you've got
- 7:53this beautiful building, this brand new beautiful building.
- 7:56You know, you're you're very outspoken, you're very
- 7:58courageous.
- 8:00Um, and you're living in a way where
- 8:02like you're fearless, and there are so few
- 8:05people like you.
- 8:08And yet the fact that you allowed me
- 8:10to put this banner up on your wall,
- 8:13and uh from what I understand, there's been
- 8:15a little bit of fallout.
- 8:17I just want to tell you how grateful
- 8:19I am to you, and I would like
- 8:21you to tell us about the fallout if
- 8:23you uh have if you if you'd like.
- 8:25Well, you know, really and truly, um, I'm
- 8:28living no differently than I've always lived.
- 8:32And I was taught at a very young
- 8:34age that if you are not going to
- 8:36stand up for yourself, no one's gonna do
- 8:38it for you.
- 8:40And I also learned very early on that
- 8:43sometimes you have to be courageous for others
- 8:46before they get the courage for themselves, and
- 8:49I also learned uh that uh you you
- 8:52have to grab on to a piece of
- 8:55history, whether it's personal or not, and hold
- 8:58true to that history, and so with that,
- 9:01you know, um, I alluded to the fact
- 9:04that my mother was born in Belarus and
- 9:07Minsk, Belarus, and um was taking uh was
- 9:10taken very young to Germany, um, and was
- 9:14put into a quote unquote work camp, which
- 9:17is a euphemism.
- 9:20Um they um and she lived there her
- 9:22entire childhood, she didn't get to the United
- 9:25States until much later.
- 9:28By the grace of God, she was in
- 9:31a camp that was liberated by American soldiers
- 9:34and not other soldiers from the opposite side,
- 9:37and so she lived in the camp up
- 9:40until the mid uh probably early to mid-50s
- 9:43before she moved here to the United States,
- 9:46and um she was she was branded a
- 9:49displaced person, which back then kind of like
- 9:52refugee status, I guess, for for now, right?
- 9:56And because these were people without a country,
- 9:58they couldn't go back to their country.
- 10:00Um, and so it was it was really
- 10:03no no way to do anything except below
- 10:06look forward, they couldn't look backwards, obviously.
- 10:09So um, my mother's family came here.
- 10:12Now, interestingly enough, my mother was an orphan
- 10:15because her parents were my maternal grandparents were
- 10:19killed in the street in their little suburb
- 10:22of Minsk during the war because her father
- 10:25resisted, and then when her father resisted was
- 10:28killed, as the story goes, her mother tried
- 10:32to pull him out of the street or
- 10:35off of the body pile, and she was
- 10:38killed there too.
- 10:42Um and so, you know, my mother would
- 10:45always remind me as a child to never
- 10:48forget.
- 10:51Don't forget where you came from, don't forget
- 10:53your history, don't forget your roots.
- 10:56Um, and and we just have to understand
- 10:58in America how blessed we are and how
- 11:01fortunate we are in that the American dream
- 11:03is actually not just a dream but a
- 11:05reality to many, many people that come to
- 11:08this country.
- 11:10And so when you when you look at
- 11:13things in this way, it's hard for you
- 11:16to kind of watch things pass you by
- 11:18passively, and um I've been an advocate for
- 11:21children for over 30 years.
- 11:24I've been a pediatrician by trade for 30
- 11:25years.
- 11:27Um, but but my support and love for
- 11:30being advocates of kids that were um somehow
- 11:33disadvantaged goes way back to when I was
- 11:36probably in grade school because I was one
- 11:39of those peer peer kids that helped kids
- 11:42with learning disabilities.
- 11:45Um I was asked to step out of
- 11:47class and and help in PE classes with
- 11:49kids with disabilities.
- 11:51So it was kind of a really cool
- 11:53um position to be in when the school
- 11:56recognized, hey, this this kiddo has a talent
- 11:59for something, and or at least a passion
- 12:01for something and has real true compassion to
- 12:04help.
- 12:06And so um that's kind of how I
- 12:08just did this.
- 12:10And so when you were telling me this,
- 12:12I was like, oh my gosh, this is
- 12:14this is an homage to children on both
- 12:16sides of a war that no one wants,
- 12:18no one wants this war, I'm sure.
- 12:21The good people of Iran don't want this
- 12:23war, the good people of Israel do not
- 12:26want this war, no one wants this war,
- 12:28but you know, evil remains in the world
- 12:31today, and we have to do everything in
- 12:34our in our power to thwart evil if
- 12:36we can't stop it.
- 12:39And so that's kind of what I saw
- 12:40this as.
- 12:41You know, I know that I am powerless
- 12:43against a war on another side of the
- 12:44globe.
- 12:46I'm powerless.
- 12:47There's nothing I could do over there, right?
- 12:49There's nothing I could say or do that's
- 12:50gonna stop them immediately from doing what they're
- 12:52doing.
- 12:54But what I can do is at least
- 12:56bring awareness to the fact that there are
- 12:59innocents, especially children that are mining their own
- 13:02business that are targets of terrorism.
- 13:05We have that in this country too, you
- 13:06know.
- 13:08And you know, a lot of people that
- 13:11saw um my post my banner posted it
- 13:14on a Facebook group, you know, that's talk
- 13:17of the local city, and this woman obviously
- 13:20does not have the same mindset, and just
- 13:23did an absolute hit piece on me and
- 13:27my my practice and doesn't know me personally,
- 13:30I don't think.
- 13:33I mean, I find it hard to believe
- 13:35that I would socialize with such a person,
- 13:37but maybe you never know.
- 13:39And um, and the the beauty of it
- 13:41was I just sat back and wait, and
- 13:43when I found it, of course, there was
- 13:45already 67 comments on it or something crazy,
- 13:47and so I actually went back and read
- 13:49through the comments because I was like, Well,
- 13:51I don't know.
- 13:54This is obviously misunderstood because she posted that
- 13:56this was an Islamist Islamist Islamophobic, I'm sorry,
- 13:59I can't speak this morning.
- 14:00Islamophobic.
- 14:01I'm sorry, I can't speak this morning.
- 14:02Islamophobic banner that I decided to post on
- 14:02Islamophobic uh banner that I decided to post
- 14:04this.
- 14:05on this, and it wasn't, it's an homage
- 14:06And it wasn't.
- 14:07It's an homage to children killed unnecessarily, right?
- 14:09to children killed unnecessarily, right?
- 14:12And at the hands of terrorists.
- 14:12And at the hands of terrorists, even children
- 14:14in their own country that are killed by
- 14:14Even children in their own country that are
- 14:16terrorists.
- 14:16killed by terrorists.
- 14:18It's a domestic terrorism is a is a
- 14:18It's a domestic terrorism is a is a
- 14:20big buzzword here in the United States.
- 14:20big buzzword here in the United States.
- 14:22We have it here, but it happens everywhere,
- 14:22We have it here, but it happens everywhere.
- 14:24it happens all across the globe.
- 14:24It happens all across the globe.
- 14:26But if we as individuals do not stand
- 14:26But if we as individuals do not stand
- 14:28up.
- 14:29up against what is happening, or at least
- 14:32bring some awareness to what is happening, you
- 14:34know, for the last five years, a lot
- 14:37of people have lived under a rock.
- 14:40I mean, a really big rock, and they
- 14:42don't know what's happening in the world.
- 14:44And especially in America, because Americans just tend
- 14:48to be very um easocentric.
- 14:52They just want to know what's going on
- 14:54in their immediate area, and that's about it.
- 14:56You know, I'm very act locally, think globally
- 14:58type of person.
- 15:00So I'm a little bit of the opposite.
- 15:02Um, when I when I do things, I
- 15:04really do it with intention.
- 15:07And so, you know, the intent was a
- 15:08loving intent.
- 15:10The intent was not hate.
- 15:12I don't hate Israelis, and I don't hate
- 15:14Muslims.
- 15:15I mean, I have people of all creeds
- 15:17and all religions in my practice.
- 15:20So that wasn't for that at all.
- 15:22That was this is just an awareness thing.
- 15:25There's actually more Muslims on that poster than
- 15:26there are Israelis.
- 15:28Um, and there's two Christian Bible verses on
- 15:30it.
- 15:32So would you mind telling them the two
- 15:35vibal verses that are on the banner that
- 15:38obviously got missed in this?
- 15:42Right.
- 15:43So, yeah, so let me let me just
- 15:46take a step back here and explain like
- 15:48what the banner is for those of you
- 15:50who didn't hear the podcast last week.
- 15:53Um, two years ago, Hezbollah fired a rocket
- 15:56into a Druze village, D R U Z
- 16:00E village, and the missile landed on a
- 16:03soccer field and killed 12 uh children who
- 16:07were all playing soccer.
- 16:11And uh the Druze religion is a um
- 16:14it's a unique, it's a unique religion that
- 16:17has a lot of secrets, and people just
- 16:20don't quite know what it's about and entirely
- 16:23what they preach.
- 16:26Um, and they won't they won't share it.
- 16:29Uh in the Druze faith, you have to
- 16:31marry another Druze, or you actually get kicked
- 16:33out of the religion.
- 16:35And so uh in the Druze faith, their
- 16:39highest prophet is a guy that you know
- 16:42we don't really ever talk about as Christians,
- 16:45but it's it's Moses' father-in-law.
- 16:49The guy's name is the guy's name is
- 16:51Jethro.
- 16:54So you know, with the Iranian children who
- 16:56are in the mural, all killed by the
- 16:59Islamic regime.
- 17:02I I don't have access to those families,
- 17:04I don't have access to those those mothers
- 17:06and fathers to say, hey, can I use
- 17:08this image?
- 17:10I just put the images up with the
- 17:12Druze children.
- 17:14I do, I did have access, and I
- 17:16really wanted to honor who these people are,
- 17:18but I wanted to do it from a
- 17:20Judeo-Christian perspective.
- 17:22Yeah, for sure.
- 17:23And so, yeah, and so uh Jethro does
- 17:27have a big moment in the Bible.
- 17:30He has a big moment in the book
- 17:32of Exodus.
- 17:33Okay, hold on right there.
- 17:36We have to break for just a second.
- 17:38But I know you're about to go into
- 17:40this really deep historical account.
- 17:42So I want everyone to be able to
- 17:44listen in and understand this from the beginning
- 17:46and not break it up.
- 17:49So let's break for for just a minute.
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- 20:08And we are back.
- 20:09I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you
- 20:12off, Human, but I want I know you're
- 20:15gonna go into a really deep historical um
- 20:18account of um the Druze um religion and
- 20:20who they feel is their leader of their
- 20:23religion from the Bible, which is Moses' father-in-law,
- 20:26who has a big active part.
- 20:29So yeah, gohan, please, please go ahead.
- 20:33Yeah, absolutely.
- 20:35So in the book of Exodus, Jethro does
- 20:37have this very big moment.
- 20:39So to set up the scene, this is
- 20:42right after basically God parted the Red Sea
- 20:46and the Jews walked on dry ground.
- 20:50And so this is the Jews have been
- 20:52rescued from Egypt.
- 20:55So Exodus 18 starts off with, you know,
- 20:58Jethro, the priest of Midian, the father in
- 21:00Of Midian, the father in law of Moses
- 21:00law of Moses heard everything God had done
- 21:02heard everything God had done for Moses and
- 21:02for Moses and the people of Israel, and
- 21:04the people of Israel, and how he and
- 21:04how he and how the Lord brought Israel
- 21:06how the Lord brought Israel out of Egypt.
- 21:06out of Egypt.
- 21:09So it goes on and on, and and
- 21:09So it goes on and on, and it
- 21:11it sort of, you know, talks about this
- 21:12sort of, you know, talks about this moment.
- 21:14moment, and then in uh verse seven, it
- 21:14And then in uh verse seven, it says,
- 21:16says Moses went out to meet his father
- 21:17Moses went out to meet his father in
- 21:19in law.
- 21:19law.
- 21:21He bowed down, kissed him, they greeted one
- 21:21He bowed down, kissed him, they greeted one
- 21:23another, and then Moses tells his father-in-law everything
- 21:24another, and then Moses tells his father in
- 21:26the Lord had done to Pharaoh and the
- 21:26law everything the Lord had done to Pharaoh.
- 21:28Egyptians for Israel's sake about all the hardships
- 21:31they met along the way and how the
- 21:33Lord saved them.
- 21:36All right.
- 21:37So all of that happens, and then these
- 21:40are the verses I put on the banner
- 21:43to you know point out Jethro, his role
- 21:47in the Bible, and to point out something
- 21:50actually a lot bigger, which is the glory
- 21:53and the honor of God.
- 21:56And the glory and honor of God is
- 21:59right now in these verses spoken by Jethro.
- 22:03So verse 9, Exodus 18, verse 9.
- 22:06Jethro was delighted to hear about all the
- 22:08good things the Lord had done for Israel
- 22:10in rescuing them from the hand of the
- 22:12Egyptians.
- 22:14He said, Praise be to the Lord who
- 22:17rescued you from the hand of the Egyptians
- 22:19and of Pharaoh, and who rescued the people
- 22:22from the hand of Egyptians.
- 22:25Now, this is the this is the money
- 22:27shot here.
- 22:29Uh Exodus 18, verse 11.
- 22:32This is what Jethro says.
- 22:34Now I know that the Lord is greater
- 22:37than all other gods.
- 22:41For he did this to those who had
- 22:44treated Israel arrogantly.
- 22:48Now, why is this a big deal?
- 22:50Why is this a big deal for the
- 22:51Druze to hear?
- 22:53Why is this a big deal to put
- 22:54in the banner?
- 22:55I mean, I'm sure there's a handful of
- 22:57people listening to this going, no one talks
- 22:59about Jethro.
- 23:01And you're right.
- 23:02No one talks about Jethro, no one.
- 23:05But as I'm being like sort of culturally
- 23:09sensitive and incorporating, like sort of this Judeo
- 23:12Christian history.
- 23:17If you do a deep dive in Jethro,
- 23:19he's a Midian priest.
- 23:22And nowhere in the Bible does it ever
- 23:24say he accepted Judaism.
- 23:27I mean, there's big debates among theologians and
- 23:29rabbis.
- 23:31Does Jethro even get to go to heaven?
- 23:34And yet here he is quoted in the
- 23:35Bible.
- 23:37No one knows what happened to Jethro.
- 23:39No one knows, but there's no indication that
- 23:43he ever accepted the God of the Jews.
- 23:48But his own words are saying, the Lord,
- 23:50the God of the Jews is greater than
- 23:52all other gods.
- 23:57So I put this in the banner because
- 23:59this mural first went up in that Druze
- 24:01village.
- 24:02The the Druze villages called Majdel Shamps.
- 24:31And that was sort of my way of
- 24:33like honoring Jethro as well.
- 24:35So the background of the banner on the
- 24:37Israel side is Jethro's tomb and the Mount
- 24:39of Olives.
- 24:42And on the right side of the banner
- 24:45is Azadi Tower, which is Freedom Tower in
- 24:49Iran, and um King Cyrus' tomb.
- 24:54So yeah, I I gave everybody a Bible
- 24:57lesson with those verses.
- 25:00I honored the Druze community, obviously all 24
- 25:03of the children.
- 25:06And the referee in the banner is a
- 25:09female soccer player who was killed by the
- 25:13Islamic regime on January 8th of this year.
- 25:17So everything is like uh, you know, hopefully
- 25:20opening up people's eyes to the brutality and
- 25:24the mercilessness of the Islamic regime, not just
- 25:27towards adult men and women, but towards children,
- 25:31they target children.
- 25:34And if you do another deep dive and
- 25:37you just type into Google or wherever, Chat
- 25:40GPT, what countries have um the Islamic regime
- 25:43use their proxies to kill children?
- 25:46I mean, you're you're basically looking at almost
- 25:49every continent on the planet.
- 25:53So the whole point of this mural is
- 25:56obviously with FIFA coming up.
- 25:59My hope and prayer is that the president
- 26:02sees this, he loves it, he adopts it
- 26:05because his face is on this banner.
- 26:08He won the FIFA peace prize.
- 26:10Two billion people are gonna be watching the
- 26:12World Cup.
- 26:13Like if there's ever a time to open
- 26:16up the eyes of the world to the
- 26:18brutality of the Islamic regime, it's now.
- 26:21So God, we've done everything we can do.
- 26:25You've got to take it from here, and
- 26:27you gotta make the world see it.
- 26:29Amen.
- 26:30And that one, but you know, you know,
- 26:33we kind of anticipated the fact that this
- 26:36banner was going to ruffle some feathers and
- 26:39probably be misinterpreted or misunderstood, or whatever way
- 26:42you want to call it, which of course,
- 26:45um, it took a little bit, took about
- 26:48four days, and then it was completely misunderstood.
- 26:51And um, you know, there have been um
- 26:54a few people close to me that that
- 26:57say, you know, you probably should take that
- 27:00down.
- 27:04Oh no, and I'm like, nope, not doing
- 27:05it.
- 27:08Sorry.
- 27:09So uh I'm not gonna take it down.
- 27:12No, I'm not gonna take it down anytime
- 27:13real soon.
- 27:14It'll come down eventually, but it's not coming
- 27:16down real soon.
- 27:17Um and and I think you know, you
- 27:20may I don't even think I told you
- 27:23this, but all throughout my building, I invited
- 27:25uh very close friends of mine to write
- 27:28verses on studs within the walls of my
- 27:30practice.
- 27:33And so um this whole experience, I think
- 27:37is just one of those things that I
- 27:40say often.
- 27:43I always say, 'God puts people in your
- 27:45path for a reason.' You were put in
- 27:47my path for a reason, right?
- 27:49Um I didn't know you before two weeks
- 27:52ago.
- 27:54I had no idea who you were a
- 27:55couple weeks ago.
- 27:56So, you know, it's it's divine appointments are
- 27:58are done in different ways all all the
- 28:00Done in different ways all the time.
- 28:00time.
- 28:02And I think one of the things that
- 28:02And I think one of the things that
- 28:04I am thankful for is that I look
- 28:04I am thankful for is that I look
- 28:05for those.
- 28:05for those.
- 28:07Um I never understand sometimes where you know,
- 28:07Um I never understand sometimes where you know
- 28:10someone just kind of hits it off with
- 28:10someone just kind of hits it off with
- 28:13you, and you start chit chatting, and then
- 28:13you, and you start chit chatting, and then
- 28:15you know, really, I had no idea you
- 28:15you know, really, I had no idea you
- 28:18had this banner about the kids.
- 28:18had this banner about the kids.
- 28:22I only saw the ones that you had
- 28:22I only saw the ones that you had
- 28:24displayed, um, and that you had shown at
- 28:24displayed um and that you had shown at
- 28:27your talk, um, in regards to the women.
- 28:27your talk, um, in regards to the women.
- 28:30I didn't, you know, you hadn't mentioned a
- 28:32kid's one until the very end, I think.
- 28:34And um, so everything happens for a reason.
- 28:41I'm one of those people, and I believe
- 28:43that we have to pave our path, and
- 28:45you have to stand up for what you
- 28:47believe in.
- 28:49You have to stand up for your um
- 28:51and advocate for those that you feel don't
- 28:54have a voice, whether it's any more or
- 28:56yet.
- 28:58Um, and that's kind of where I sit,
- 29:01and I really try very hard to even
- 29:04with this radio show.
- 29:08I mean, this radio show has gone so
- 29:10in so many different directions for me.
- 29:13Um, you know, it started in a more
- 29:16health and wellness medical healing space, and now
- 29:19it's moved into a little different space.
- 29:22Um, but I can tell you one of
- 29:25the things that is really uh encouraging for
- 29:27me and very eye-opening is how everything intermingles,
- 29:30you know.
- 29:33I'm a pediatrician, you're a filmmaker radio guy
- 29:36who is, you know, has rubbed elbows with
- 29:39lots of stars.
- 29:42Um and I always tell people I'm the
- 29:45podunk pediatrician from a podunk town, and um,
- 29:47and here it is, you know, here we
- 29:49are.
- 29:51So it's just kind of an it's it's
- 29:53really awe-inspiring.
- 29:55I I really have so much um admiration
- 29:57for you.
- 30:00I mean, the way you just I mean,
- 30:02you were like, I'll be there in a
- 30:04week, not even a week.
- 30:05You were there in a couple days, I'll
- 30:07change my air flight.
- 30:08I have this, I'm gonna squeeze it between
- 30:09here and here, and we're gonna get this
- 30:10poster done.
- 30:11We're gonna get it hung up.
- 30:12And I mean, it's a whirlwind.
- 30:14I mean, you there's probably only one other
- 30:16person that's like that that I know, and
- 30:18that's me.
- 30:21So it's why we get along so well.
- 30:25It's like, oh no, I have to do
- 30:26something.
- 30:27Let me go, hurry, you know.
- 30:29So I really appreciate you you trusting me
- 30:31too, you know, because I think that's a
- 30:33a huge thing.
- 30:35And I was trusting my community around me.
- 30:39I have a very, very broad and strong
- 30:41community that even if they didn't agree with
- 30:44it, because this was kind of my thought.
- 30:46You don't have to agree with me, you
- 30:48don't have to agree with the poster.
- 30:49I may not agree with 100% of what
- 30:51you're doing, and I may not agree with
- 30:53100% of what is shown on the on
- 30:55the banner, but that's not the point.
- 30:57The point is is it's on display for
- 31:01others to interpret and understand and become aware.
- 31:06And unfortunately, um, the hit piece that went
- 31:09up on Facebook in a couple of these
- 31:12Facebook groups, it's obvious that the person who
- 31:16posted it did not even read the banner.
- 31:20They just they read a part of it
- 31:22or saw the flags or something, and then
- 31:24went crazy, you know.
- 31:27And there, you know, there are people in
- 31:30this world that hold on to um beliefs
- 31:34that you know they they actually they're their
- 31:37beliefs, and so therefore to them they're true,
- 31:40but it's not a true belief system for
- 31:44lack of better term.
- 31:47And so I think we have to be
- 31:50mindful of those people and help hopefully break
- 31:53through or show them hey, this is a
- 31:55this is just a different perspective.
- 31:58Maybe you need to look at a different
- 32:01perspective to formulate either a revised belief, or
- 32:04if you truly were to solidify the belief
- 32:07you do have, you know, like I'm all
- 32:10about um people not agreeing with me.
- 32:13I don't have a problem with you not
- 32:14agreeing with me.
- 32:15I have a problem with you shouting me
- 32:17down and not having an intelligible conversation about
- 32:19it.
- 32:21Um, and that that has been really um
- 32:25magnified over the last six years.
- 32:29It's incredible to me.
- 32:30I don't care what front it is, medical
- 32:34front, political front, even economic fronts, um everything
- 32:37is so uh knee jerk reaction, and um
- 32:40you know, people are saying, Well, I'm doing
- 32:44my research.
- 32:47Well, you know, I and I say this
- 32:49to my kids all the time.
- 32:51This is one of the reasons why I
- 32:54save encyclopedia brickannicas, because you know, they yeah,
- 32:58not everything in there is is straight, you
- 33:01know, from the hip or what you would
- 33:05call politically correct, but I could tell you
- 33:08that it's information and it's a different perspective
- 33:12on information, and sometimes that's better than computer
- 33:15information now where it can be manipulated or
- 33:18it could be erased, or it could be
- 33:22completely altered to change history.
- 33:26It's true, it's true.
- 33:29I mean, that's a big thing here in
- 33:30Texas.
- 33:32I can tell you that for sure.
- 33:34Yeah, you you bring up you bring up
- 33:36a ton of really valid points, but the
- 33:39the one I sort of want to emphasize
- 33:41is there's no perfect time for anything, and
- 33:44for those of you who are listening who
- 33:46are in the yards or planning to do
- 33:49something, it doesn't matter how many people tell
- 33:51you today that they're gonna actually show up
- 33:54or they're gonna be there, they're gonna cover
- 33:57it.
- 33:59You can you could immediately put that number
- 34:02to half.
- 34:04You as the person is the creative is
- 34:06the person going out trying to, you gotta
- 34:08get these things up.
- 34:10You just got to get them up, even
- 34:12if there's nobody there, you gotta get it
- 34:14up.
- 34:15There was another group out of Texas, and
- 34:18this was a few months back, and I
- 34:20said to them, you know, Purim, which is
- 34:23mentioned in the book of Esther, is um
- 34:25it's the holiday that really unites the Persians
- 34:28and the Jews.
- 34:31Can we put up a mural for Purim?
- 34:33And immediately they said yes, and then they
- 34:35started micromanaging me.
- 34:37They started micromanaging everything.
- 34:39They didn't they said there were too many
- 34:40fonts, different types of styles of fonts on
- 34:42the invitation.
- 34:44They they would say, um, you know, we
- 34:46we don't like how much green you're using.
- 34:49Uh, and they and I I finally realized
- 34:51these people are never they're never gonna actually
- 34:53pull the trigger.
- 34:56And uh I I put two murals up
- 34:58for Purim, one in Indiana and one in
- 35:00One in Indiana and one in Austin.
- 35:01Austin, and I came back to them.
- 35:03And I came back to them.
- 35:04I said, Hey, all the money I raised
- 35:04I said, hey, all the money I raised
- 35:06for you guys for the event, I spent
- 35:06for you guys for the event I spent
- 35:08on these other two Purim murals.
- 35:08on these other two poor murals.
- 35:10Um, will you guys pick up the tab?
- 35:10Um, will you guys pick up the tab?
- 35:13And they said, You need to pause, you
- 35:13And they said, you need to pause, you
- 35:14need to slow down.
- 35:14need to slow down.
- 35:16I'm like, 50,000 Iranians were just killed.
- 35:16I'm like, 50,000 Iranians were just killed.
- 35:19I'm not gonna pause.
- 35:19I'm not gonna pause.
- 35:20I'm not gonna slow down.
- 35:20I'm not gonna slow down.
- 35:23And uh the point of the story is
- 35:23And uh the point of the story is
- 35:25if God wants you to do something, and
- 35:26if God wants you to do something.
- 35:28all of a sudden you get stuck with
- 35:31like, you know, some bozos who micromanage you,
- 35:34just keep going.
- 35:36Don't wait on them.
- 35:38Just make it happen.
- 35:40You will find people like Dr.
- 35:41Angie who will see the vision and they
- 35:44will really understand the sense of urgency.
- 35:47Because that's what this comes down to.
- 35:49Like you need to be fighting every day
- 35:51on the front lines now.
- 35:54Don't wait a month or two.
- 35:58If someone says I have a wall for
- 36:00you, get the banner up next week.
- 36:02Like make it happen.
- 36:04And uh, you know, I'm here in DC.
- 36:07I'm supposed to put two more of those
- 36:09banners in Dallas, but those people are dragging
- 36:11their feet now.
- 36:13So we'll see if it actually happens.
- 36:15But I'm here in DC now.
- 36:16I'm gonna wander the national mall looking for
- 36:18divine appointments, and and I'm just basically saying,
- 36:21you know, here I am, God, send me,
- 36:23send me to the right people you want
- 36:25me to meet today.
- 36:28Amen.
- 36:28Amen.
- 36:30I I have to say, you know, this
- 36:33has been um truly eye-opening.
- 36:36And in our last segment, what I want
- 36:37to do is kind of take the banner
- 36:39apart a little bit.
- 36:40And and the reason why I want to
- 36:42do that is because it was really interesting
- 36:44in what people focused on when they were
- 36:46commenting on this Facebook post.
- 36:48And so um, in in the next segment,
- 36:50let's just kind of talk about that a
- 36:53little bit and how you know the way
- 36:55you put it together.
- 36:58Um I don't know if it was intentional
- 37:00or not, so we're gonna find out.
- 37:02Um, but stay tuned, we'll be in our
- 37:04next segment in just a few minutes, and
- 37:07just remember to tell your friends and and
- 37:09colleagues, hey, I heard this great podcast and
- 37:11share, share, share.
- 37:14You know, it's really important.
- 37:15These are perspectives from literally the foxhole.
- 37:19So, you know, if you find this um
- 37:22intriguing or you know, enlightening or or even
- 37:25maddening, share it.
- 37:27You know, share it with your friends and
- 37:28family.
- 37:29I think it's really important that this podcast
- 37:32um in particular it gets shared.
- 37:34And we'll be back in just a moment.
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- 39:08And we are back in our final segment
- 39:10with Mr.
- 39:13Human Khalili.
- 39:15And this guy and I um literally met
- 39:17less than a month ago, and we are
- 39:20already causing tidal waves.
- 39:22We're getting rid of we made a tidal
- 39:24wave.
- 39:26And so um Human is instrumental in um
- 39:30doing homages to people of um of terrorist
- 39:34um victim.
- 39:38I I guess you would call them terrorist
- 39:39victims.
- 39:39You know, these are these are um it
- 39:43started out with women who were exposing their
- 39:46hair in a Muslim country and were killed.
- 39:49Um, you know, that is part of their
- 39:51Sharia law.
- 39:53And I know that there's now in the
- 39:56upcoming political climate here in Texas, there's a
- 39:59lot of emphasis about Sharia law and what
- 40:01it is, and what does this mean for
- 40:04Texas and parts of Texas?
- 40:07Um, and so on top of that, you
- 40:10know, we have this banner that shows uh
- 40:13the the kids that were killed by Hezbollah
- 40:16and on both sides of the borders, so
- 40:20it doesn't really matter where you live or
- 40:23or you know what your um perspective may
- 40:26be because you may not have a perspective,
- 40:29which is okay.
- 40:32Uh, this may be your first exposure, but
- 40:35I want to take apart the the banner
- 40:37a little bit because of course in the
- 40:39comments, um, you had people flying from all
- 40:41different areas.
- 40:44Like one was let's address the Islamophobia.
- 40:47Um, is this banner Islamophobic?
- 40:53So I want to say something about that
- 40:57word becauselamophobic has a very specific definition.
- 41:02So if we're to be specific with the
- 41:05way we define it and not use our
- 41:07feelings, but actually use truth and logic, the
- 41:09word phobia means to be scared of something
- 41:12you do not know, to be scared of
- 41:14something you do not understand.
- 41:17That's what phobia means.
- 41:19And so I was born Muslim.
- 41:24Okay.
- 41:25If there's anyone who knows Islam, it's me.
- 41:28I know the Quran, I understand the teachings
- 41:31of Muhammad, I know.
- 41:34So, first of all, if I'm in this
- 41:37case, it's not even that I'm scared.
- 41:41I'm warning you of something that is trying
- 41:43to infiltrate America.
- 41:48Now, whenever a Muslim comes to me and
- 41:51says, Hey, this isn't Islam, and you know,
- 41:55you're this feels Islamophobic to me, I say
- 41:59to them, are you speaking out against what
- 42:00To me, I say to them, are you
- 42:02speaking out against what the Islamic regime is
- 42:02the Islamic regime is doing?
- 42:04doing?
- 42:06You being a Muslim man or woman, are
- 42:06You being a Muslim man or woman, are
- 42:08you using your voice to say this is
- 42:08you using your voice to say this is
- 42:09not Islam?
- 42:09not Islam?
- 42:11Are you doing that?
- 42:11Are you doing that?
- 42:12Is anyone in your community doing that?
- 42:12Is anyone in your community doing that?
- 42:15Is the state of Saudi Arabia doing that?
- 42:15Is the state of Saudi Arabia doing that?
- 42:18Is anyone saying this is not Islam publicly?
- 42:18Is anyone saying this is not Islam publicly?
- 42:22Or are you just saying it privately?
- 42:22Or are you just saying it privately?
- 42:23And 100% of the time they'll say we
- 42:23And 100% of the time they'll say, we
- 42:26won't post against the Islamic regime.
- 42:26won't post against the Islamic regime.
- 42:29I say, okay then.
- 42:29I say, okay, then I'm gonna post against
- 42:31the Islamic regime, and I'm going to tell
- 42:34the world that their interpretation of Sharia law
- 42:37is we can kill women for showing their
- 42:40hair, we can blind women for showing their
- 42:43hair, and we can shoot their children because
- 42:46it was you know, they just had a
- 42:49press conference in Iran, and the man said
- 42:52if your child speaks against the Islamic regime
- 42:55in school, we will kill them.
- 43:00These people are 100% telling you who they
- 43:01are.
- 43:04So believe them.
- 43:06Right.
- 43:07So I guess what I'm saying to anybody
- 43:10is it's it doesn't work when you say
- 43:13a former Muslim is Islamophobic.
- 43:18There's one thing, it's Islamic trauma.
- 43:22Every single one of us who was born
- 43:24Muslim is traumatized to this day, and we
- 43:26don't want the rest of you to be
- 43:28traumatized as well.
- 43:33What about so that was one side of
- 43:36it, and that was actually the original post
- 43:39was how Islamophobic the banner was, and one
- 43:42of my responses in one of them was
- 43:44that this was made by an Iranian man.
- 43:48So um, right, you you know, I think
- 43:50you need to um check out my radio
- 43:52podcast.
- 43:55And I actually posted uh where they could
- 43:57find my podcast in in the comments because
- 43:59I think it's important.
- 44:01I mean, it's one thing to be a
- 44:04be a keyboard warrior, but it's another thing
- 44:06to actually educate yourself, and you know, the
- 44:09hardest, I think the hardest two words in
- 44:12the English language, honestly, is I'm sorry.
- 44:15It's the hardest language.
- 44:16Um, it's the hardest two words in the
- 44:19English language, and and I'm sorry, I didn't
- 44:21know, or I'm sorry, I didn't understand.
- 44:23I'm sorry, I didn't realize.
- 44:25I'm you know, like, and it's not even
- 44:28about forgiveness, like I don't have any um
- 44:30ill will towards anyone that came out against
- 44:33this, honestly.
- 44:36I don't.
- 44:36I I mean I rack it up as
- 44:38you know, a little more education maybe warranted,
- 44:40which is why I posted where they could
- 44:42find the podcast.
- 44:44And um, on top of that, it it
- 44:47was more um, it became kind of like
- 44:50an algorithm for lack of better term.
- 44:54Like some people focused so much on President
- 44:57Trump and his face, right?
- 45:00And it became well, the US military strikes
- 45:04struck a school that killed 140 kids, okay.
- 45:08Um they're in the middle of a war,
- 45:10people.
- 45:13I mean, I'm not really sure.
- 45:15We know for a fact, and you could
- 45:18speak to this better than I can, is
- 45:21that in certain uh situations in certain terrorist
- 45:24communities, they shield themselves with children and women,
- 45:27they do is this not true?
- 45:30I mean, I distinctly remember when Osama bin
- 45:33Lama uh Osama bin Laden was found, he
- 45:36was hiding behind one of his wives.
- 45:40He threw her in front of him because
- 45:43Americans have a different perspective on the treatment
- 45:46of women and children and life in general,
- 45:49you know.
- 45:53I I mean uh that's another thing, right?
- 45:55It's like you have to have some kind
- 45:59of value in just life in order to
- 46:03even understand why they are using that against
- 46:06us, which it sounds so basic, but can
- 46:10you kind of uh go down that line
- 46:14a little bit about what is happening about
- 46:18the what how do they value life?
- 46:21Like what do they actually think of?
- 46:26Well, in the Islamic faith, um, you know,
- 46:29a woman's life is valued far less than
- 46:32a man's.
- 46:35I mean, even her testimony in court is
- 46:37like what is it, like a third or
- 46:40a half of what a man would say.
- 46:43And you know, a woman cannot divorce a
- 46:45man, a man can only divorce a woman.
- 46:48So and then if you like look up
- 46:52some, you know, extreme um mullahs speaking about
- 46:55women and their role and who they are.
- 46:59I mean, look, a man can have up
- 47:00to four wives.
- 47:02How many husbands can a woman have?
- 47:05One.
- 47:06So I mean that that tells you right
- 47:09then and there at the very least.
- 47:13Sorry, I'm in an elevator, by the way.
- 47:14If I if I cut off for a
- 47:18second, uh but yeah, so that the woman's
- 47:21life in the Islamic faith is far, far
- 47:25less.
- 47:30I don't know, does that sort of clarify
- 47:31it?
- 47:35Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of
- 47:38people do not understand that um one hundred
- 47:41like there is no for lack of better
- 47:44term, there's no will of a woman in
- 47:47a Muslim marriage or in a Muslim relationship
- 47:50or Muslim, you know, like that woman is
- 47:53is has a purpose.
- 47:57Um, but their value is only attached to
- 48:00that particular purpose.
- 48:03Am I agreeing on that?
- 48:05Yeah, no, you're absolutely right.
- 48:07Uh well, look, let me just put it
- 48:09this way.
- 48:11Right now, when you think of like the
- 48:13strength of a woman, the courage of a
- 48:15woman, like everyone, just look at the doctor
- 48:17I'm speaking to.
- 48:20The reason this banner is up is because
- 48:22she saw it, her heart melted for the
- 48:24children, and she said, if you need a
- 48:26building, choose my building.
- 48:29Like that, that a moment like that, I
- 48:31just don't see that happening in like the
- 48:33Islamic faith at all.
- 48:36And so you just never really see moments
- 48:39like this, you never really um have times
- 48:42where you've got these like you might have
- 48:45it every once in a while in the
- 48:47UAE, but to this day, I tried to
- 48:50get a banner in the UAE, and they
- 48:53said no.
- 48:56They said you cannot put up a mural
- 48:58with a woman's hair showing here.
- 49:01So I'll just say uh everyone talks a
- 49:01So I'll just say uh everyone talks a
- 49:04big game privately, but publicly there are very
- 49:05big game privately, but publicly there are very
- 49:07few Dr.
- 49:10few doctor answers in the Islamic faith.
- 49:11Angus in the Islamic faith.
- 49:15Yeah.
- 49:15Yeah, what about with the you know, I
- 49:15What about with the, you know, I I
- 49:17I understand, you know, you and I have
- 49:17understand, you know, you and I have talked
- 49:19talked about this, so I understand this, but
- 49:20about this, so I understand this, but let's
- 49:22let's let's try to get the listeners to
- 49:22let's try to get the listeners to kind
- 49:24kind of envision this and understand this.
- 49:24of envision this and understand this.
- 49:26So for instance, do you know the circumstances
- 49:26So, for instance, do you know the circumstances
- 49:28around?
- 49:29around the woman who you have depicted as
- 49:32the referee who is the female soccer player
- 49:35that was killed in January?
- 49:38What's her story?
- 49:40Right.
- 49:41So you know, the crown prince of Iran,
- 49:45he uh he asked the people of of
- 49:49Iran to rise up, and they did.
- 49:53He also knew that these people did not
- 49:56have any guns, and that they would be
- 49:59um very vulnerable, and so it took tremendous
- 50:02courage for the people to rise up in
- 50:05the streets without guns.
- 50:09And uh she was one of the ones.
- 50:13She was on the women's soccer team, and
- 50:16uh the opportunity came for her to walk
- 50:20peacefully in the streets along with you know
- 50:23hundreds of thousands of other Iranians.
- 50:27The Islamic regime realized that the soldiers, the
- 50:31Iranian soldiers don't want to kill their own
- 50:34people, so they import mercenaries from Lebanon and
- 50:37Afghanistan and Iraq, Syria.
- 50:41They give them machine guns and they say,
- 50:43shoot as many Iranians as you can.
- 50:46And she was one of the ones who
- 50:48ended up being shot.
- 50:52Now, this is this by the way, is
- 50:55what Americans don't understand.
- 50:58They don't understand that this was a peaceful
- 50:59protest.
- 51:00This was just people walking down a street,
- 51:02and a lot of them walking down the
- 51:04street.
- 51:06This is not this was not a few
- 51:09hundred people, this was thousands of people.
- 51:13Hundreds of thousands, yeah.
- 51:15And this is not the first athlete to
- 51:20um to be taken by this regime either.
- 51:25Right.
- 51:27Oh, no.
- 51:28I mean there's been stories of a couple
- 51:30Olympians I believe they were Olympians recently.
- 51:33Yeah.
- 51:34No, they're they're and you know, one of
- 51:37the biggest problems is the United Nations.
- 51:40The United Nations keeps giving Iran, the Islamic
- 51:44regime of Iran, you know, all these really
- 51:48really important posts within the UN for human
- 51:51rights and women's rights and stuff like that.
- 51:56So the it's it's one of these moments
- 52:00where people are literally calling um, you know
- 52:03that that which is evil good, and they're
- 52:07calling that which is good evil, like that's
- 52:10happening right now in front of our house.
- 52:14Which is also biblical, and we have to
- 52:16very biblical.
- 52:18So the uh that was that was another
- 52:22part of the um poster, you know, that
- 52:25got people's buyers up, you know, that they
- 52:28were saying that President Trump is not doing
- 52:32anything to stop the war or anything to
- 52:35um you know make any of this situation
- 52:39better.
- 52:42And and you're coming from that culture and
- 52:45you're coming from that um, you know, you
- 52:47have a different perspective, and I'm sure you
- 52:50have a different perspective as a naturalized citizen
- 52:52of the United States from such an area.
- 52:55What did you what would you how do
- 52:59you explain that to people well?
- 53:03I think as Americans, uh there's there's a
- 53:07thing we have to sort of deal with,
- 53:11which is this Trump derangement syndrome.
- 53:16Like just like you got a ton of
- 53:17hate for putting the banner up.
- 53:19I got a ton of hate for just
- 53:22putting Trump's picture in the mural.
- 53:24I was sitting with a Christian man last
- 53:26night who voted for Trump, and the man
- 53:28was virtually screaming at me for putting Trump's
- 53:31picture in the banner.
- 53:33It got so heated with the man last
- 53:35night that I actually had to look at
- 53:37him and say, I don't really need your
- 53:39opinion on the art.
- 53:42If you want to help me, help me.
- 53:44And if you don't want to help me,
- 53:45don't help me.
- 53:47And the man looked at me, he said,
- 53:49boy, Satan's really attacking you.
- 53:54Attacking you, yeah, yeah.
- 53:57He's attacking you, and now you're attacking me.
- 53:59This is what this man said to me
- 54:00last night.
- 54:02The other thing is Iran is very complicated,
- 54:06it's a very complex set of circumstances, and
- 54:11Trump, I think is trying to balance out
- 54:15the entire Middle East and figure out a
- 54:19way of giving the Iranians some sort of
- 54:24future, and so this isn't like Venezuela, where
- 54:28if you attack virtually no one cares.
- 54:33Costa Rica will never come to the aid
- 54:35of Venezuela, Brazil will never, you know what
- 54:36I'm saying?
- 54:39But with the Islamic regime of Iran, there's
- 54:41a lot of circumstances.
- 54:44Trump has to deal with Mohammed bin Salman,
- 54:48he has to deal with the leaders of
- 54:51the UAE and Qatar, and so there's there's
- 54:54a lot more going on than even I
- 54:57understand, and I follow this, you know, daily.
- 55:13But the truth is none of us have
- 55:15any idea how this is gonna play out.
- 55:18I just hope one of the things that
- 55:21every American needs to really understand is Israel
- 55:24and America have killed the 50 highest leaders
- 55:26in Iran.
- 55:2950, 5-0.
- 55:32And the Islamic regime that the snake is
- 55:34still able to work and operate.
- 55:37You kill 50 highest leaders in any country,
- 55:39maybe even the United States, the country's not
- 55:41going to be able to operate.
- 55:44But for some reason, the Islamic, and so
- 55:46the rumor is there's 100 more that need
- 55:49to be taken out before the Islamic regime
- 55:52collapses.
- 55:54This is how difficult and complicated this set
- 55:57of circumstances are.
- 56:00So Trump and Netanyahu have done a lot,
- 56:03but unfortunately, there's a lot more to do.
- 56:07Well, sure.
- 56:08This isn't this isn't gonna be the end
- 56:08This isn't this isn't going to be the
- 56:10of the story, I know.
- 56:10end of this story, I know.
- 56:12And I thank you so much.
- 56:12And I thank you so much.
- 56:13I know you're really busy and you're running
- 56:13I know you're really busy and you're running
- 56:15around like a crazy person, but I really
- 56:15around like a crazy person, but I really,
- 56:17really appreciate you being on the show again
- 56:17really appreciate you being on the show again
- 56:19and doing a follow-up um to last week.
- 56:19and doing a follow-up um to last week.
- 56:22So God bless you.
- 56:22So God bless you.
- 56:23Have a great time in DC.
- 56:23Have a great time in DC, and hopefully
- 56:25And hopefully I'll run into you again soon.
- 56:25I'll run into you again soon.
- 56:29Absolutely.
- 56:29Absolutely.
- 56:29And thank you again for your incredible courage,
- 56:32your incredible generosity.
- 56:35And you know, peers to 100 of those
- 56:38banners going up after you were the forerunner.
- 56:41Oh, thank you.
- 56:44God bless you.
- 56:45Have a great day.