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Live: Will The Oklahoma Sooners Close This Deal? | Brent Venables | Sooner Or Later Pod (S2 E63) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we got a lot to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: We've got a lot of stuff to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna dive into a.
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  Speaker 2: Few things like a big recruiting weekend, as well as
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  Speaker 2: talk about.
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  Speaker 1: What the heck is going on with the DC.
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  Speaker 2: We'll also dive into ken Oklahoma get better next season,
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  Speaker 2: as well as a little bit of love that our
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  Speaker 2: guy John Mattea is starting to get from the media.
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  Speaker 2: Will break down what that means and get into.
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  Speaker 1: All of that. So well's good. Everybody hit that like subscribe,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for pulling up.
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  Speaker 2: Coop will be here in a bit, but uh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: thank y'all for pulling up per the norm.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a fun It's been a fun few days.
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  Speaker 2: I know that you've seen probably thirty different videos or
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  Speaker 2: articles or or whatnot about the Jim Knowles situation. We'll
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  Speaker 2: talk about that once Koop is able to jump on. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: This weekend's gonna be fun.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of recruits are supposed to be in if
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  Speaker 2: you've been keeping up with all of the top folks,
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  Speaker 2: and it appears that we'll have some oh some more
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  Speaker 2: folks coming into town. And I just saw a tweet
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  Speaker 2: somebody else is gonna be here this weekend. Sounds like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: some big name folks are gonna be in the area. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: How are y'all doing this evening? I know y'all are all.
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  Speaker 2: I see y'all in the chat getting pretty live in here.
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  Speaker 2: It appears that, uh, there's a lot of conversations around this.
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  Speaker 1: Let's put it this way.
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  Speaker 2: Gymnopiece, of course, has been the biggest conversation out there.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard very much mixed reports, and honestly, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know it's gonna be honest this point, I'm waiting to
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  Speaker 2: see what what else come down the line.
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  Speaker 1: But the one thing I do know is it appears that.
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  Speaker 2: As everyone has put things out there that Oklahoma is
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  Speaker 2: legitimately going after Knowles, and I've been seeing more reports
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  Speaker 2: come out now that others are also pushing for Knowles.
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  Speaker 2: And it sounds like I'm wondering if Penn State's even fighting,
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Ohio States fighting to keep them. Does It
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  Speaker 2: sounds like Penn State's are part of it, but.
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  Speaker 1: Like everybody's a part of it.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of curious to see what what that actually means.
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  Speaker 2: I probably will find out. We'll probably find out in
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  Speaker 2: the next twenty four to forty eight hours. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: feel like it's a situation where you're not gonna hear
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  Speaker 2: that that you're you're gonna hear something. It's not something
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna be lingering for a very long time.
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  Speaker 1: Mainly because this weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Is is the is the recruiting weekend, and so because
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  Speaker 2: that weekend is going down, you kind of need to
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  Speaker 2: know something. It's not a situation where you can go
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  Speaker 2: without so all right, the man is in coop, how's
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  Speaker 2: it going man.
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  Speaker 3: Yoh goo good doing good, very very very exciting week.
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  Speaker 3: We are on, like I guess, month two of waiting
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  Speaker 3: for something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, all we want to do is we want to answer,
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  Speaker 2: just like everybody else, we would like to get an answer.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, we saw the little the little gaff that
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  Speaker 2: happened from one of the insider groups that has become
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  Speaker 2: a really big article. I think Awful Announcing picked it up.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that's not good.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and again it like it's just it's
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  Speaker 4: it's it's I guess escalated a little bit more by
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  Speaker 4: the fact that, like, like I said, I think we've
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  Speaker 4: been all waiting for so long and so now like
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  Speaker 4: there's frustration starting to brew.
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  Speaker 3: And what's funny is if you guys are watching this
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  Speaker 3: right now, or if you're watching you know, you know
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  Speaker 3: tomorrow or something like that, like you're you're like not
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  Speaker 3: everybody in our fan base is as tuned in as
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  Speaker 3: like you guys are, and so like we're hanging on
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  Speaker 3: this every moment because we were frustrated, So like, who's
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  Speaker 3: going to get fired during the season And as soon
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  Speaker 3: as uh as soon as Latrow gets fired, then you're like,
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  Speaker 3: all right, now, what's going to happen. Are we going
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  Speaker 3: to get good again? And then you know that happens,
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  Speaker 3: and then you know, so then it's like, well.
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  Speaker 5: When are we when?
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  Speaker 3: When are we going to get the new offensive coordinator?
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  Speaker 3: Then it was waiting for a tier, and then it
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  Speaker 3: was waiting for other transfers. And now you're waiting on
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  Speaker 3: you know, you've waited on our buckle, you wait on this,
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  Speaker 3: waited on you know, on the DC. So I think
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  Speaker 3: what makes this more intense is just the fact, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we record some videos and have them ready to go
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  Speaker 3: so that it's a little bit easier. There's a there's
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  Speaker 3: you know, if you see one of you know, one
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  Speaker 3: of our videos drop and it's a seven minute video
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  Speaker 3: and it drops two minutes after the announcement came on.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, just doing the math, it happens. But because
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  Speaker 3: this situation is a little bit more intense, Uh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you know that that that's it. And again, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I know that I know that that crew was pretty
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  Speaker 3: pretty upset and they appreciate your patience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it sucks, it's pretty bad. Uh, Coop, check your
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  Speaker 2: mic real quick. It sounds like you're maybe on a
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  Speaker 2: on your computer mic may not be on that mic
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  Speaker 2: check your settings real quick.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody pointed that.
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  Speaker 2: Out, but but yeah, to be honest, I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: know people are freaking out. Of course, you know our
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  Speaker 2: resident doomer and freak out person sooner cowboys in here.
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  Speaker 2: H it proves a point to him, I guess I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why that proves a point, because it doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you've got one of the best defensive minds
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  Speaker 2: in the country as your head coach. It just means
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  Speaker 2: that he needs to go ahead and just be the
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  Speaker 2: defensive coordinator kind of like you know, Sarkisian is the
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator for Texas.
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  Speaker 1: Like it. I don't think it proves I think them
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  Speaker 1: going after him.
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  Speaker 2: Tells me more like it's like, hey, they're they're actually
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  Speaker 2: going out on a limbo or something big. But I
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  Speaker 2: don't think it means anything else besides that Oclomo's.
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  Speaker 1: Swinging for the fences. I don't mind it. It's just,
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  Speaker 1: uh yeah, it happens to the uh has the best
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  Speaker 1: of us. The good thing is that, like I said,
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  Speaker 1: they made an attempt.
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  Speaker 2: But BV has been a fantastic is a fantastic defensive coordinator,
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  Speaker 2: and we've seen the defenses improve, you know, each season.
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  Speaker 2: So that's the most important thing, which is the hardest
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  Speaker 2: thing to do in college football. If you've noticed, UH
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  Speaker 2: is getting a defense to be any uh to to
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  Speaker 2: really improve like that. So it's gotten better the players
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  Speaker 2: figuring it out, they're they're putting in the work needed.
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  Speaker 2: But adding someone like Jim Knowles would be huge just
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  Speaker 2: because you add an additional defensive mind who's really good
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  Speaker 2: at their job. And Knowles was obviously the architect of
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  Speaker 2: the full defense at Ohio State because Ryan Day's an
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  Speaker 2: offensive mind, and he even gave up the offense to
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  Speaker 2: Chip Kelly, so you saw a completely you know, different
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  Speaker 2: setup you know on that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's to me a huge deal that.
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Day was able to confidently hand that off to
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  Speaker 2: two different coaches and let them do their things.
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  Speaker 1: Good thing for him. Chip Kelly's also as a former
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  Speaker 1: head coach.
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  Speaker 2: So but how big of a deal would it be
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  Speaker 2: to grab Jim Knowles cool especially since you know he
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  Speaker 2: coached at Oklahoma State. Everybody's already tweeted out all the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma tize he's has, but he coached.
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  Speaker 1: Here for a few years. How you feel about if
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  Speaker 1: that does go down?
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  Speaker 3: I think that there's two things Jane, Jim Knowles means
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  Speaker 3: to Oklahoma is number one is an optics piece. It
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  Speaker 3: is the fact that, like you, you can go in
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  Speaker 3: and take a look and see that Brent Vinnables, you know,
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  Speaker 3: had a resurgent, you know, twenty twenty, I guess it'd
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  Speaker 3: be three. And so then you see this happens and
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  Speaker 3: it looks like Oklahoma is willing to pretty much do
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  Speaker 3: whatever it takes to make this thing work. You go
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  Speaker 3: out and you get Ben r Buckled, and you bring
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  Speaker 3: in Jim Knowles. The optics looks great on it. But
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  Speaker 3: number two it allows britent Vinaible And I heard you
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  Speaker 3: say it already. It's great because it allows Brent Vinables
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  Speaker 3: to be the head coach and to focus on some
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  Speaker 3: of those detailed details that he keeps on losing. Because
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be honest, Jay, if you had a
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  Speaker 3: player on the team that kept on missing minor details,
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  Speaker 3: how bad.
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  Speaker 5: Did we you know?
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  Speaker 3: Rack on on Danny Stutsman a couple of years ago
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  Speaker 3: when he was lining inches over to the side, Like,
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  Speaker 3: if a player kept on making some of the same
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  Speaker 3: mistakes that should be basic, over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 3: the tolerance wouldn't be there. So it's signed for Brent
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  Speaker 3: Vinaibles to kind of, you know, I guess polish up
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  Speaker 3: on those is and being able to turn the defense
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  Speaker 3: over to Jim Knowles.
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  Speaker 2: That makes it great, right And I'm not sure how
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  Speaker 2: to pronounce that name. But concerned about the offense, why
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  Speaker 2: we just hide an offensive coordinator and he brought us
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  Speaker 2: quarterback with them.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you're literally a fake heartbeat away from being
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  Speaker 3: eight and four this past year if you just had
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  Speaker 3: anything on offense, and I can already tell you this, like,
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  Speaker 3: you bring an offensive coordinator who has done a good job.
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  Speaker 3: Mateer proved it on the field the guys in front
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  Speaker 3: of him. He accounted for forty one touchdowns. And so
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  Speaker 3: if that offense takes us a tiny step, this year,
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  Speaker 3: offense is going to be back to what we were expecting.
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  Speaker 5: And I expect a little bit more than that.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 1: JD pikel dropped a video about some of the top quarterbacks.
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  Speaker 2: College football he's preparing for in twenty twenty five, and
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  Speaker 2: one of those names in there he mentioned was John
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  Speaker 2: Mattier And one thing he said about Matier was he
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  Speaker 2: says he's good enough for at least two wins, if
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  Speaker 2: not three. By my calculations, that could put that's that's
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  Speaker 2: nine wins based upon last year.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: To me, if materr just replicates what you did last year.
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  Speaker 2: Thirty one yards passing a hundre yards, wresting tough but
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  Speaker 2: ae hundred yard Russian four to four touchdowns.
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  Speaker 1: To me, that feels like that's enough. Because all we
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  Speaker 1: needed this year was just competence on the offensive side
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  Speaker 1: of the ball.
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  Speaker 5: Identity.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it was just identity, Like what is the
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  Speaker 3: thing that you can go to on offense that you
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  Speaker 3: know that's your bread and butter. You know, during the
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  Speaker 3: Lincoln years it was the GC counter we were running that.
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  Speaker 5: It was great.
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  Speaker 3: During the Dylan Gabriel year, I mean, I guess Eric
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  Speaker 3: Gray in Britainvittable's year one was pretty much the only
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  Speaker 3: thing we had on offense, and then last year it
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  Speaker 3: was we went as DG win and you know you had,
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  Speaker 3: you know, a receiver Cord that we didn't expect a
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  Speaker 3: lot out of they showed out. So this year is
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  Speaker 3: can you get to a spots where you know what
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  Speaker 3: you are? And I think already before we take a snap,
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  Speaker 3: I can say Mattier is a playmaker, and so you
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  Speaker 3: can have like a confidence in John Mattier and say,
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  Speaker 3: go make us a play and he's.
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  Speaker 5: Going to do it.
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  Speaker 3: And he's already shown those leadership characteristics too, which were
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  Speaker 3: making those players buy in.
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  Speaker 2: Right, and Chuck, you asked his question, you thought it
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  Speaker 2: was a team sport. How does one guy worth a game?
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  Speaker 2: Because the quarterback can make a break a game easily,
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  Speaker 2: like we've seen Hurt Mayfield Murray, right, You've seen we've
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  Speaker 2: seen Dylan do it. Where one player has found a
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  Speaker 2: way to win the game. That's just kind of how
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  Speaker 2: it is. And especially at quarterback, someone without fear of
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  Speaker 2: throwing the ball, someone can go out there and make
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  Speaker 2: it happen. That's your game changer right there. That's what
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  Speaker 2: you need. And so now we just need to see
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  Speaker 2: him do it in the field.
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  Speaker 1: Once he produces, you're good.
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  Speaker 2: And quarterback is probably the one position that can change
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  Speaker 2: everything for you. Look at Miami. Miami took cam Ward
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  Speaker 2: who was underneath our buckle, and it was like a
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  Speaker 2: completely different team. Even though their defense was cramp He's.
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  Speaker 1: Still able to pull out nine games.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's kind of where I point out how
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  Speaker 2: one person can give you that. I think that can
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  Speaker 2: really only work at either at quarterback and running back.
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  Speaker 1: I think those two spots can do it well.
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  Speaker 5: I mean Jeremiah Smith then jer Chat.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I think that guys like that can can
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  Speaker 3: really make a difference because I mean, that's that's that's
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  Speaker 3: pretty cool.
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  Speaker 5: And yeah, yeah, shout.
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  Speaker 3: Out Tanya Shipman, thank you for the four ninety nine.
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  Speaker 1: I thank you always that appreciate it.
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  Speaker 5: But yeah, we've seen Materier do it.
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  Speaker 3: In my argument for the yeah, but he did it
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  Speaker 3: versus crap competition, My argument for that is Jackson Arnold
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  Speaker 3: didn't do it versus crap competition. And you can't give
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: Temple's fifty plus points to him because remember we were
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  Speaker 3: zero for twelve in his tenure at you know, under
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  Speaker 3: in third down conversions, the defense got.
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  Speaker 5: Six turnovers, if I my memory serves me.
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  Speaker 3: Correctly, a lot of them right there, and wasn't one
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  Speaker 3: of them a pick six or a pick pop six
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  Speaker 3: courtesy a kindle Adobe. And so you know, Houston, we
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  Speaker 3: got extremely lucky on the punt, I mean extremely lucky
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  Speaker 3: on the punt and held on for dear life two lane.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it was twenty seven points on offense. Is
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  Speaker 3: that where we're at now? For you know, judging competency,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like he didn't do a lot of stuff,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and again even just I mean just think
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  Speaker 3: about it, like, did you really feel like even playing
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  Speaker 3: against Maine this year that it was like were we
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  Speaker 3: as dominating as we really should look? So, I mean
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  Speaker 3: you saw Joumetier do that against all his competitions, So
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  Speaker 3: right there, that immediately tells you that that's a step
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  Speaker 3: up and he's gonna have a little bit better car
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  Speaker 3: to be driving around in here. Yeah, literally and figuratively.
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  Speaker 1: Figuratively. All you need is someone to give you a spark.
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  Speaker 2: And the good thing is you've got an offensive coordinator
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  Speaker 2: who's infamous for creativity. I've been actually watching some Materear
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  Speaker 2: film from last season.
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  Speaker 1: I got a few games.
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  Speaker 2: And not gonna lie. Creativity is there on top of
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  Speaker 2: tear be out there being a dog man like he
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  Speaker 2: he he just makes it work. He just goes and
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  Speaker 2: does it. It's pretty freaking cool to watch him play.
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  Speaker 2: And I think that that's basically what's gotten my attention.
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  Speaker 5: So he just he just is.
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  Speaker 3: He's one of those I mean, when you guys, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm not comparing them to this guy, So please
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  Speaker 3: just don't.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a comparison, give you a comparison.
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  Speaker 3: It's it's like when you see Jaden Daniels out there playing,
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  Speaker 3: immediately Jaden Daniels, he's just a playmaker. It seems like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: oh no, this is where they're gonna have a Oh no,
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  Speaker 3: okay he got out of that, or oh oh he
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  Speaker 3: made that throw like that's that's it. And it's not
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  Speaker 3: that Jackson Arnold didn't have those capabilities. He did, just
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  Speaker 3: didn't have those consistencies. Because we saw the the running
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  Speaker 3: throw against Arizona, We saw you know, throws this year
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  Speaker 3: that you're just like, you know what in the world.
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  Speaker 3: We saw the brain work and the talent come together,
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  Speaker 3: it just didn't happen consistently.
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  Speaker 2: That's all you need is consistency, and you need someone
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  Speaker 2: that's gonna put together like I said, just a competent
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  Speaker 2: offense and design creativity to help with going against these
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  Speaker 2: really good defensive coordinators. That's the thing about the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: It's defensive coordinators usually are really really good.
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  Speaker 1: So but we'll wait and see. We got up.
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  Speaker 2: This weekend is the junior day, and to me, you
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  Speaker 2: want something out there, you want something to be known about,
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  Speaker 2: you know, if you're going to bring in another coordinator
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  Speaker 2: or not. But to me, my comparison from Materials one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent and Jalen Hurts similar play style. I think
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  Speaker 2: he has a bet he has a better touch on
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  Speaker 2: his passes then Hurts. I saw him drop some passes
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  Speaker 2: on the back shoulder. Like I said, I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 2: through the all twenty two tape and I'll I'll draw
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  Speaker 2: some stuff up. But he also he plays. He just
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  Speaker 2: goes out there in balls and so JD. Piquel talked
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  Speaker 2: about he's one of the quarter He gives them two points,
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  Speaker 2: maybe three, two game, maybe three for potential for Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a big deal. And we've been hearing in
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  Speaker 2: winter workouts. I know you've seen them on social media.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I saw if you post about it that it sounds
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: like but here's already taken control of the offense, and
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: the players like everyone's like literally lining up behind a
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: dude saying, Okay, you the man.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: You are the man.
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  Speaker 5: Definitely, so, definitely so because he's.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: A strong runner and he works his butt off, and
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: I think one of the announcers in one of the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: clips I saw for one of the games said, he
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: squat six hundred pounds.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Six reminds me of Hurts by a lot.
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: And yeah, same, same type of thing, same, I mean absolutely,
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: And where whereas I say, Lincoln schemed up an offense
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: that Jalen Hurts could could be highlighted in. And that's
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: another thing that I don't think the whole conversation with Jackson,
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: I'm not fitting into the scheme that you know, Ceth
• 20:03
  Speaker 3: of Trail wanted to run. Was the most bass ackwards
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: thing I've ever heard in my life. Because you're supposed
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: to scheme to your quarterback. That's what the great offensive
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: coordinators do, right go and they scheme to the quarterback,
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: and Lincoln did that for Jalen. Jalen wasn't a great passer.
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: I mean I still to this day after the I
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: think he was was at the LSU game. Yeah, after
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: the LSU game and after the Army or not the
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: Army game, there was another game. I was just like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: here's the thing. I don't think Jalen hurts. I think
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: that someone will draft him in the six or seventh
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: round because he's just one of those core team guys.
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: But in my head, I was like, he's going to
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: be taking the Eric Crouch route. He is going to go,
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: He's gonna sit around for a while and nothing's gonna happen.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: I was wrong. I was wrong.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: People loved his work ethic, he was strong as hell,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: and what they've done with him in Philadelphia has been terrific.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: So if you have a guy a situation where Our
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Buckle can do something like that from a teer here
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: with like I said, you know, upgraded offensive weapons, I mean,
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: that's just kind of a It excites me. And again
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: right now, I think that that's why this Our Buckle
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: news was big. I think that's why the gym knowles
• 21:12
  Speaker 3: you know win would be big is because it's a
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: win in all this waiting, and it gives us that
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: ability to go and move into the next season. And
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: I promise you we're going to be talking people off
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: of a ledge on why we're going to go undefeated
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: and stuff. At some point in the next several months,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: like people are going to take that turn to hey,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: we're going to be really freaking good.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: I just need I just need some confidence. But I
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: think that material can really give you that. At least
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  Speaker 2: that's what it feels like.
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  Speaker 5: Hey, Jay, I got there.
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: There's a special person watching tonight. One of the guys
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: I work with, Rob Peregreeney, Rob My Man. He he
• 21:53
  Speaker 3: said he wants us to get the Penn State defensive coordinator.
• 21:56
  Speaker 5: But he gone, so uh Rob, yeah, is gone.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was that Tom Allen, Tom Allen's and Clemson.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and so Rob, thanks for tuning in and rather
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: appreciate it. Hey, Rob's are on the East Coast, so
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: he's probably he's he's up late.
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  Speaker 3: The top five. Uh, I don't know if it is one.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, is it a top five? You know you
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: see you see up in Kansas. I mean, shout out again.
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: I mean, just look at the names up there. What
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: Vanderbilt and Kansas have been able to do the past
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: couple of years, Uh, you know, just entering their names
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: into you know, relevancy. Kansas was one of the toughest
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: team in the teams in the Big Twelve towards the
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: end of the year. And I don't know what happened
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: early in the year, but you know they were they
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: were they were spoiling some folks conference championship appearances. But
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: then you got Louisville and Tennessee. So I mean, you know, again,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: I played against Key one. You know, I was there
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: at school with him, and uh he's uh he's a character,
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: and you know, I love that guy. And so we're
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: trying to have him on the uh the parent interviews.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: So we get a little ex player slash parent, you know,
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: somebody that everybody can know. But Cayden is explosive, and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you know, I think it's a travesty what happened in
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: the uh the end of the season because I think
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: he uh was in overtime he got like one touch
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: or something like that, and you know, you just he's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: a he's a he's a guy you feed the rock
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: to and so. But you know, this is a guy
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: that uh, if oh you want so, you needs to
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: get And this is not somebody you can let go
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: to Tennessee because, uh do you remember a little little
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: fellow named Josh Jacobs who you know, uh the regime
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: didn't take and he uh, he put a chip on
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: his shoulder and he you know, went and put himself
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: as one of the best running backs in the NFL.
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: So I want to see us Land Caden because I
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: think he'd be a good compliment and a great great piece,
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: uh to go along with Jaden O'Neill.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: No, And I totally agree.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, this is Kewan Jones, Caden Jones. This is Kewan
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: Jones's son, so former Sooner Kewan Jones. Yeah, that's a
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: pretty pretty big one.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: And Key One, you know, Key One was the battering
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: mate there with with Quinton and Cayden. Is a lot
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: more athletic, a lot more explosive. And that's to say
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: something because Key One just uh, you know, when I
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: first saw Samaji p Ryan, that's who I thought of
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: was Kewan Jones and SMA you know, a little bit
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: more of the upgrade there, but that's you know, that's
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: who Key one was. And so Cayden a little bit
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: more explosive. So this is one that again you want
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: to build that wall around the state of Oklahoma for
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the top players and and so you can't let him out.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: You got to keep him. He's one that is a
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: must have. Another player that is pulling up from the
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: great state of Ohio, Sincere Johnson. I'm intrigued by Sincere linebacker,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: four star edge slash linebacker. Like I'm truly not sure
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: what he is, what he'll end up being, let's put
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: it that way. But I've heard nothing but good things.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: I was talking to our resident Ohio expert because you know,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: we got four dudes from Ohio here, Yeah, we do,
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: which is even more hilarious to me. We have four
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: dudes from Ohio here, and I was talking.
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: To one of them. Might be listening today right now.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just talking to Reggie Power's dad about him,
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: and yeah, word is he's gonna be a beast. That's
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: what it sounds like six three to thirty five legitimate
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: out of Cleveland, Ohio. This is one of those that
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: hopefully we can steal him out of the backyard of
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: you know, Ohio State. But he's good, real good. When
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: I saw that, Coop, I got pretty excited. I'm like, look,
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: that's one that's a linebacker edge we need to get
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: our hands on for real. We got to find a
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: way to win this one. We got a that's a
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: that's a long list of players. So going through the
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: list of players that I have, so you've got j
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: O'Neill's gonna be back in town, in which I know
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: he's been recruiting Kaden Jones like crazy over the last
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: few few months.
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: That's one.
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: I actually remember seeing them at the BV camp last
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: year and I think Cayden mentioned that he basically invited
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: him to that Mason James from was it Norman High.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: I know the staff is gone to go visit him.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: And you saw Jade and O'Neill's comment, right, Yeah, maybe
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: he's making him a priority. And you know that's uh
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: that that that's big because you know he's he's probably
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: the the next man up as far as like the
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: leader for this recruiting class. This is a chance twenty
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: six is could be a chance for a really really
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: good recruiting class because you've got the top end quarterback
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and so.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: And anybody anybody that you can get.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: This is this is again with with going Elijah Thomas,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: you know from right here in Oklahoma to Mason James,
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: back to back years. Those are that's kind of like
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: putting years together where you're getting Sterling Shepherd and uh
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: you know Mark Clayton. You know that that that's that
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: type of hall in back to back years because I
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: think both those guys are going to be absolute studs.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: No, I honor agree with you on that one. You
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: get that back ooh, back to back years of that.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: M me to go with the supporting cast that you've
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: already got in got in tow and I mean, these
• 29:53
  Speaker 3: are these are guys again why you do the Oklahoma thing?
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Jay that they know what it means here, They've been
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: around it.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: You know, you prep it's important.
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: It's a it's a very very very tough tough thing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: I mean because again, like you knows as a fan,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: you're like, man, if I had a chance, so if
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: I was really really good. Hecky, i'd be going to Oklahoma. Well,
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: you know, they also see the downside of it. They
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: also see us you know, uh boot boot quarterbacks and
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: uh you know, yell at wide receivers and tight.
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: Ends and stuff like that too.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, it's not a guarantee that
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: these guys just you know, decide to come here, and
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: but they see this offense this year, and I think
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: that that that clears up a lot.
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: That's what's gonna be most important is that we still
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: got to show it on the field. That's probably the
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: most important one. They're h t you're asking how tall
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: is Mason. Mason is six foot one sixty is what
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: he's listed here on the on three uh site.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Let me pull it up.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: See y'all can kind of see what I'm talking about.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: If I can get this BA would work uh this
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: tap instead, I mean zoom and seay'all can see them.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Which is you know, like the the the type the
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: tall I mean, the top wide receivers here this year
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: you did Corey Moore five eleven one eighty six, you
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: know a little bit of a shorter wide receiver.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: Click Lockett.
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: He's going to Texas you know, six one and a half,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: so right in that same range six two, six two
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: and a half, Dallas Wilson going to Florida and then Cunningham.
• 31:30
  Speaker 5: Six to two.
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: So I mean, like, you know, some of the top
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: receivers are right in that six one, six one and
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: a half range, uh, you know six to two range
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: right now, because you know these wide receivers, some of
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: these guys, like you don't always realize how tall they are,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: how big they are. You just see how dominant their
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: play is. And you know, we saw Hollywood Brown dominate,
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: We saw D D. West dominate, you know, Ryan Broyles dominate.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: So I mean, he this isn't this is one where
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: you know, this might be the next big one. And
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: that's you know, saying a lot because e T is
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: right you know, on campus right now.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Right And Mason James is in four on three in
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: their composite, their industry rank from everybody, they have him as.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: Number one in the in the state. Two four seven
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: has him as fourth in the state behind all of
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: the big boys. Katie So Caden Jones is number two
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: behind Taj Overton, which I believe Overton is going to
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: be visiting as well. Now that's one defensive linment.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: I really won't Taje Overton very much. If I told
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: you how much I want Taje Overton, I don't think
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: I've told you how.
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: Much I will go.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Let him know, please go up to Oiso and please
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: tell him that he needs to come to Oklahoma.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: That's probably the one dude in state that we we
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: can't miss out on at all.
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And you got him, and then I think in twenty
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: seven you've got the Booker t kid and I can't
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: re remember his name.
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: I'll stop my head.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: But I mean, you've got a couple of defensive linemen
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: coming out of the Tulsa metro area that are you know,
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: going to be highly sought after.
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty seven is gonna be a fun class too,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: But twenty six we're gonna focus on this one.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't. I won't.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: I won't Taje over to two, six, three, right now
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: to seventy five. He can get up into the three hundred,
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: no problem. Probably next season he'll be at that point.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: He can ball. I like TODs I watched I've watched
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: him in a wat so he can ball. He's one
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: of the many that we desperately need to get our
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: hands on and I expect you know, you know baits
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: to be out there and be busy. Yeah, it's gonna
• 33:38
  Speaker 2: be a big weekend. There'll be a lot of names
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: out there. I've been seeing the offers go out like crazy,
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: and so the expectation is the visits are gonna be plentiful.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: So we'll be waiting for the pictures.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: I gotta give a PG probably try to get him
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: own this weekend to talk about who we talked to
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: or whatnot. I've got to figure out who can we
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: probably expect over the next couple of months. It's gonna
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: be it's gonna be critical to start getting some of
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: this class done early, especially once everything comes down on
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: an Il and everything.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: But I don't I don't, I don't.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know of anybody that even has chance of
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: committing soon. It's been it's quiet because typically right now,
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the one that we're chasing is usually.
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: The quarterback.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Right now, we're usually trying to get that quarterback commitment
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: between now and the end of February. But we got
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: Jaon O'Neills last year, so we're kind of chilling. Lee Bird,
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: thank you for the two Bucks, Ohio States Natty celebration
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: is Sunday at noon.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: It is, Yeah, it is.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And so if you you're just now tuning in, uh,
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: things feel positive, Things feel pretty good. I know that
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of Penn State smoke, you know, kind
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: of swirling around right now.
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: Because they need to deep as a coordinator. I don't
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: know if y'all know that, but yeah, Penn State needs
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: one because there's.
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: Left there, they're DC left.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: Notre Dame also now needs one because Al Golden is
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: heading to the NFL and so they're going to be
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: looking for somebody. And so you know, that's two other programs.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: I've got my thoughts on it. But I mean, I
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: think that I feel pretty confident about this based off
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: the you know, the folks that we talk to and
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: have conversations with and and but again it's it is
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: dead season. I mean, there's nothing happening right now, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: so this, uh, this whole conversation has been again just
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: the end of the waiting period. So you know, just
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: if you're just tuning in, we we still we still
• 35:56
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• 35:59
  Speaker 3: my personal opinion is he's probably not sticking around for
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: the parade.
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: I just don't.
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: I just don't see that being a thing. And if
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: you're if you're gonna leave, might as well head out now.
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: I think that, uh, you know, I've had people, you know,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: you know, kind of reach out and say they think
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: that it's done as of tonight, and we should hear
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: something tomorrow. So we just sit and wait, because until
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: it's news, it's uh potential news.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah it ain't. Yeah, we don't. We don't have anything.
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• 36:56
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  Speaker 2: Right now bet Us has listed Arch plus four hundred,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Matiers at plus fourteen.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's gone. The number is gotten better.
• 37:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was was it seventeen hundred at one point?
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: I think it was like twenty to one initially. Now
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: he's fourteen to one. It's pretty big jump. Arch of course,
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Garrett Nesmy at nine to one. Him and Jeremiah Love.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: That's interesting. Jeremiah Smith's also nine to one, Club Knicks
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: ten to one. Dante Moore is at eighteen to one.
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: That's interesting. Julian say it's eighteen to one.
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: Oh gosh, Avery Johnson out there Kansas.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: Day Johnson is fifty to one. That's high.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's a high number. But just the fact that Matteir
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: is sitting here at fourteen to one. Vegas Fgas knows
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: something I don't know, but that's an interesting number to
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: have at fourteen to one.
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: To me Arch Jeck what I.
• 38:58
  Speaker 5: Was gonna say.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: A lot of people will feel very confident that Lagway's
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: the pick, and he's sitting there at the same exact
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: odds as Materiars.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Lagway is the one that I'm I'm kind
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: of leaning the heaviest on.
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: With when it comes to the Heisman odds.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I think I think Lagway if he's healthy, because he
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: did have the injury this year, if he stays healthy,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: he's probably going to be the more popular one.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: It has the better chance to get it.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: You know, a lot of mediocre teams, you know, researched
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: towards the end of the year and then the expectation,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: you know, inflates, you know, with the Florida you know,
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: the first over unders that I saw had like South Carolina,
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: who a lot of people feel super confident about at
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: six wins, And yeah, I think they had Florida.
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: At six wins too.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know if Lagway comes in
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and the defense can't make it happen, you know, people
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: feel good about that, But I mean I'm just saying,
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: you're not winning the Heisman with four losses. I just
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: don't see that happening, and for Florida to go eight
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: and four, that would be a pretty impressive run for
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: them this.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Year with that schedule. Yeah, it would be.
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: I don't I'm saying Blackly wins the Heisman, the over
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: under and the end that bets. If you are parlaying
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: as a Florida fan, you are making some coin.
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: You really are, because that Heisman number because Lagway, Yeah
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: that with the Natty, Yeah, you're making some bread.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: If you do that totally, we'll be worth.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: It to if you somehow got that in with some
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: kind of a parlay or something like that. You got
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: Jackson Arnold there at thirty five hundred, that's.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: An interesting one.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: How do you feel about Jackson Arnold being up here
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: on the Heisman odds like that?
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: I mean, Connor Wegman is a twenty eight hundred, so
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: I mean Connor Wegman, I mean, does anybody who would
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: you have Connor Wegman or Jackson Arnold like?
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: Is that? I mean that's like I'm not going to
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: smear their names like.
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: That, but I mean that's just I don't feel like
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: that's either those choices are very good and so, I
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: mean Leonora Sellers is up is he a fourteen hundred
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: right there too? I mean Jackson normal, you know, at
• 41:25
  Speaker 3: that high That just basically says like, hey, we're putting
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: his name on here because he was a high expectation
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: quarterback at a decently sized program. If he comes in
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: there and fixes stuff, he's going to have the conversation.
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: Is it likely? Probably not.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, his odds being at thirty five is interesting that
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: he I mean, he's tied with Gunner Stockton and Marcel
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Reed and Jyalen Daniels.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Who wants put thirty five hundred dollars on Gunner Stockton
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: winning the Heisman next year.
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I couldn't do that. I couldn't.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even put it on the time as castillonis,
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: even though him at Florida State.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: Probably is gonna be pretty good because it throw the ball.
• 42:11
  Speaker 5: We'll see. Whatever happened there this year, I mean that
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: was bad.
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know, I mean literally, like, I'm pretty sure
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: that they saved Oklahoma from being a lot more, you
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: know under the microscope. Yeah, now, granted it's a little
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: bit harder.
• 42:29
  Speaker 5: I mean it's not like.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: They're missing you know, twelve offensive players, you know, twelve
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: offensive starters.
• 42:35
  Speaker 5: Or whatever.
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: And you know, so, I mean they went had a
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: healthy team, they had a healthy team, and they dunked out.
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: They just lost.
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: It was just bad in every way manageable.
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: It's just bad.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: Dalan Rayola twenty five hundred. That intrigues me twenty five
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: to one odds.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I mean it's not a terrible bet. I mean he
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: did have he did look good early in the season.
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Sophomore season is how do you get better, get better
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: at those things that you weren't doing very well, and
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: how do you add more arsenal to your repertoire because
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: it's not like you know, they're going to start practicing
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: all the stuff that you did really really well, and
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: so you got to have some new tricks of your
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: sleeve too. Otherwise that's that's why people run into the
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: sophomore slump situation. So Dante Moore down there, eighteen hundred.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Sawyer Robertson, is that bar Beck is sixteen? I wasn't
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: he the leading favorite coming into the year.
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: And he was supposed to be a number one draft pick.
• 43:47
  Speaker 5: Yeah, but now he's in the DG route.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Cainen Salter, I like him at twenty five. I actually
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: liked that number. I think Pat Sherman could do something
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: with him in Colorado. I've been trigued by that one.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Psalter is going to have a love There's gonna
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: be a lot of pressure back behind him too, though.
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, and I think that that's what will If he
• 44:11
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• 44:15
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• 44:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: You did.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: I watched it too. So Curtis lofton interview Teddy Gabe
• 44:42
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• 44:46
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• 44:47
  Speaker 1: They're fun, They're.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Good, They always yes and in the weeds is fun
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: watching some of the film breakdown, Yeah, one hundred percent
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: worth your time. So, but Curtis lofton former GM for Oklahoma,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: was on there. He talked about his experience at Oklahoma
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: as the GM. He talked about the players kind of
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: gave thoughts on he feels like a lot of players
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: too entitled, et cetera, so and so forth. But he
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: did talk some ball, and he talked about a couple
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: of players that jumped out to me, went on offense
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: and won on defense. Talked about Matier said he thinks
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: he's him, he's special, but he talked about the quarterback
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: behind him. He said that he thinks Michael Hawkins can
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: win a Heisman Trophy. How do you feel about that?
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, realized potential and continuing to level up. You know,
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: I saw some folks talking in the chat earlier that
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: enough Materier went down like we were, we'd be toast.
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: Like I don't think so, I think that I think
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: that Hawkins is still going to be a phenomenal, phenomenal player.
• 45:56
  Speaker 5: And.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Like I just I don't Maybe it's probably not this year,
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: but I think you get the brain, you know, you
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: just look at the confidence swing, you know, in the
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: in the in the bowl game, I mean you felt
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: a little bit like he was willing to push the
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: ball downfield a little bit more. And so and that's
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: what's again, playing with no weapons at all, and so
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: you give him some weapons, you know, in another year.
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: I think he's going to look pretty good winning a Heisman.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: I mean that's a he's going to have to have
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: some pretty good jumps. And I mean I'm just saying that.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: You know, we go to a nine and three year
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: and you know, Matier feels like it's a you know,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: there's a chance that twenty six could be special for
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: this team he comes back again.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: I mean we're still waiting.
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: That's two more years away from you know, seeing Michael Hawkins.
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: So I mean, if he sticks around that long, I mean,
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: that's just not that's not common in this era. And
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: so that gives him one year and so you know
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: that that's and then he's also going to have you know,
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: Jadan O'Neill coming in town. So I you know, listen,
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: if I had to bet one way or the other,
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think I would be very inclined to put
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: money on him winning the Heisman. I think I would
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: take the other one the other side pretty quickly.
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: But it's not impossible.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Same.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: He showed a lot of heart out there in that game,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and I think that our buckle can really mold him
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: into something special.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: But I think Materier is gonna be fun as well.
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: I don't even know if Matier be here long with
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: any year. If he replicates what he did last year,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: he may not even come back for another year. So
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: at that point we kind of neat Hawkins ready and
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: you have freshman Jade no feel coming in. Got a
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: lot of work to go on that one. We talked
• 47:44
  Speaker 2: about somebody on defense like they post a clip on
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: X and often didn't even give Tate opportunity to finish
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: the question. More so, who was a young player or
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: player on defense that you feel like it to be
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: super impactful.
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: He immediately jumped out.
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: Boomed Koye, our boy friend of the show, Daniel Koye, Coop,
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: I feel like this is the year where he's gonna
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: break out.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm buying stock.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: And I'm just I'm just saying this.
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: If you if any of us went out and started
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: playing some basketball against a bunch of you know, ten
• 48:25
  Speaker 3: year olds, eleven year olds, even in my decrepit old age,
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: I would not have to have much skill to win.
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: And that's what it was like for Danny playing at homeschool.
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: Is he is such an athletic, just freak of nature
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: and just a mutant and that gap is almost taken
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: almost all the way away, and guys like him are
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: going to take a leap because once they get pressed,
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: they get pressed to find out what else they're capable of.
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: And so yeah, I think that we're going to see
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: that now.
• 48:59
  Speaker 5: You need to see that.
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: I mean, for Chavus, you need to see that because
• 49:04
  Speaker 3: you know, we've still yet to see it from PJ,
• 49:06
  Speaker 3: and there were a lot of expectations on him. Okoye
• 49:10
  Speaker 3: has the defense was so good that it was not
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: a big talking point that Koye didn't get much time
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: this year. So hopefully this this year you see him
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: on more packages, you see him on more opportunities to
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: come in. He's got to learn the techniques just as
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: well as just using the freak talent, and so you know,
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: I expect more of a specialist role from him this year,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: and hopefully you see him early because I would like to.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: I'd like to see him taste blood because I think that, uh,
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: you know, that's kind of what we talked about PJ.
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: But Danny is, Danny does have a little twitch of
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: crazy in him, and that's what you need to see.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you go back to Dan Cody that
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: guy had several touches are crazy and he was really good.
• 49:48
  Speaker 5: And so.
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: I mean, Okoye has got that, whereas PJ is more
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: mild manerd and calm and you're just you know, a
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: gentle giant.
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: He goes out there and just plays.
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: But the big thing is it's the with O Koye.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I expect him.
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: I expect the violence out of him, and that's the
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: thing that I just want to happen that I need.
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: To see him go out there and be violent. Yeah,
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: we haven't had that yet.
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: And guys, I mean, I'll just tell you, I think
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: A koy A probably by the end of the year
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: is probably going to be about the same exact size
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: ass PJ. You know, he put on some very very
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: very good weight pretty quickly. You just heard all the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: good stuff as far as just like the twitch that
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: he has. So I mean, yeah, I'm excited for him too,
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: because we talked about it coming into this year. It's
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: crazy like this is going to be a really really
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: good defense and the more athletic and more gifted players
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: are sitting behind them, and so now it's time for
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: some of those guys to start sprinkling in because you
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: know they're going to need to be the leaders in
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: twenty six. So let's let's see some of these guys
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: get out there and start going crazy.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: Yep. I need PJ to get healthy.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: Ankle's been bothering him. He gets healthy, I think he
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: can be impactful. But I think Danny's going to be
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: a mutant. So you add him with Marvin Jones, R.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Mason Thomas. So PJ, Danny R, Mason Thomas, and Marvin Jones.
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun. I'm ready to see this defensive
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: line go out there and be really do some stuff.
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: And so, you know, I said this to somebody, and
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: I want to say it was Parker, but I said,
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: you know, oh, you could be the absolute, you know,
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: beneficiary of one of the coolest comeback tours ever seen
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: by Marvin Jones Junior. Because he was turning it on
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: at the end of the year. The maturity and all
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: that stuff got there.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: He was a freak. He was a five star.
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: He was a guy that was probably head this way
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: to Lincoln Left Town. And so now you get to
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: come and I mean potentially end your career with you know,
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: Todd Bates, Javis Venables, you know, gym knowles, you know,
• 52:02
  Speaker 3: and that that's I mean, you come out and you
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: show out with you know, the potential that that defense
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: has this year. I mean, you're gonna you go from
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: five star flow up to you know, is it one
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: or day two?
• 52:15
  Speaker 5: That's the question.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: He's the numbers at the combine. He's gonna put up
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: the numbers. He's going to put up insane numbers.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Regardless. And the beauty beauty is is that the the
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: defense has continued to show improvements, you're every year, and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: I thought it was important.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: Yeah, so we'll see it's.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: And again we face six first time i mean new
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: starters at quarterback this year starting Week two with Michigan
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: and I'm talking I don't even know about Apple Loosa
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: State Week one or anything else like that. Like it's uh,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: you know, the the actual teams that were playing. You know,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: one of them is Jackson Arnold. But you know we're
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: gonna have a lot of first time quarterbacks and Brent Vinnables,
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: you know, I mean, he gets a chance to go
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: up against those guys. We saw what he did against
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: you know, Nico in year one with no no support
• 53:17
  Speaker 3: from the offense.
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: It's all you need competence on one side of the ball.
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: You can do it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: But I am in my mind today though, who here
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: in Lofton talk about Okoye?
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: That just gets me geeked.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know, I think there was a lot
• 53:39
  Speaker 3: of stuff that I liked about what he said. Uh,
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: there's a lot of it felt like there was a
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: lot of frustration that was kind of coming out. And
• 53:46
  Speaker 3: I bet that he probably is going to have some
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: of that stuff that he wish he wouldn't had, wouldn't
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: had said, Like, yeah, I do think that. You know,
• 53:55
  Speaker 3: it's crazy to for a guy like Lofton. He was
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: a guy that it's not like he came from you know,
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: Fort Lauderdale or anything like that. Like he's a small
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: town guy and you know he shows up. He he
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: was a hard worker, He was a tough guy. He
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: was just that that game linebacker. Even in the NFL.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: You look up, you're like, click, shit, Curtis Lofton is
• 54:18
  Speaker 3: a part of my French Curtis Lofton is leading the
• 54:21
  Speaker 3: league in tackles in the NFL, And.
• 54:23
  Speaker 5: It was crazy.
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: And it's hard for guys in that just that far
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: ago to handle the nil business here because Number one
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: they've got some measure of sour grapes because they didn't
• 54:36
  Speaker 3: have any of that stuff. But on the other hand,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: it's they see what it's it feels like it's all about,
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: and he's he's tired of having those conversations over and
• 54:44
  Speaker 3: over and over again. And it was just, you know,
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: what Brent Vinibles wanted to create two years ago and
• 54:49
  Speaker 3: what the pathway.
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: Is now I think is slightly different.
• 54:53
  Speaker 3: And so that's why you're seeing a lot of changes
• 54:54
  Speaker 3: with Curtis stepping down, Josh Norman taking on, you know,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: the charity in Oklahoma City as the Yeah, what is it?
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: He's the Borders.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: He's a detecutive director over there at the Santa Fe
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: Family Center up there in edmund.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you know, I think they're doing some different
• 55:09
  Speaker 3: stuff with that. So but man, it just this thing
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: continues to mold because every single change you make, you
• 55:18
  Speaker 3: don't know if it's going to be a short term
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: or if it's going to be a long term change.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: And that's hard for a guy like Curtis Lofton because it's, hey,
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: what scheme are we running? This is where my gap is,
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: That's where I'm heading. And it was like instructions, Instructions
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: follow instructions, and that's just it's harder. Yeah, he was
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: in NFL and he was he's a great mind. But
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: I mean there's it's no knock to him. I mean
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: just it's what he was hired for and what it
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: needs now or two different things.
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well we yeah, what we need now. The adjustment's
• 55:48
  Speaker 2: going to have to go a lot closer to an
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: NFL model. He mentioned that a little bit, and he's like,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: it's not like the NFL right now, but at some
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: point it's going to have to get to that point.
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: He's going to get there.
• 55:58
  Speaker 2: And we know that that is what they're trying to
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: do with the front office. It's why they got Jake
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Rosenberg consulting to help with designing the front office to
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: be able to handle the changes that are coming.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Like the changes haven't stopped.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: There's going to be more and that's gonna probably happen
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: here over the next couple of weeks. So I say by.
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: Spring ball we'll probably have a better idea of what
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: twenty six is going to look like. Then we should
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: actually hear from the SEC about the schedule because I
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: would like to know what the schedule is going to
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: be and that that'd be awesome.
• 56:34
  Speaker 3: I think that at this point the SEC probably has
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Plan A, B, and C because it's just like I said,
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: everything's evolving.
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: Everything's changing so quickly.
• 56:43
  Speaker 3: And I mean, guys, just think about how long ago
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: we were heading to the SEC and the playoffs were coming,
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: and now we're like year one in the playoffs and
• 56:53
  Speaker 3: you're already like, well, the next phase of this is
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: going to be what and this is going to continue
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: to move and I mean it's either going to be
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: cool or not cool.
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, It's that's literally all we're doing is chasing the
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: next thing. It's exactly we don't even care about what's
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: happening today. To me, the twelve team was not bad.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: I think there are adjustments that and again it's I
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: don't think that that committee needs to come out and
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: be like, well that was a failure or that was
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: an extra. You know, they can come out and you
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: know what they won't say is hey, there were some goods,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: there were some bads.
• 57:41
  Speaker 5: We're having discussions. We want this to be the best thing.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: We love the sport, we love the concept, we love
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: the opportunity to grants the athletes, and we just want
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: to make it the best thing that it can be.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I'm out, Yep, that's gonna be to me. If there's
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: one change I want to see.
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: Out of the playoff as we wrap this up, is
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I want to see all of the rounds be on.
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: Home fields on campus until the final four.
• 58:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you had said that. I think I'd like to
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: see the buis go away again. I'm not sure this
• 58:24
  Speaker 3: is going to work. I mean, Roger Goodell keeps adding
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: NFL games like he's already talking about eighteen now, and
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: at some point the student athlete piece still has to
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: be a factor. These are still kids, right, there's still
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: this is still a big deal. And having six you know,
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: you know, six games in the playoffs, I mean, that's
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: a tough addition.
• 58:47
  Speaker 5: So what is it going to be. Is it going
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: to be one less non conference game?
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: Because I would like to see all those teams to
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: come out now the conference champions game, championships games, like
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: do we continue to do that because it's not an
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: equal playing field for everybody because you have a National
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Championship Game attendee this year didn't have a conference so
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: they get to do whatever they want to do, and
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: they don't have to play that game. It's never going
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: to be an option for them. So I think Texas,
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: you know, I think Texas made it on a better
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: end of the bracket by not winning the the SEC
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: championship game.
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: So Ohio State wasn't even in it.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: So the different thing though with It's the funny thing
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: when it comes to Notre Dame is Notre Dame plays
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: in two conferences. Technically they have a and they have
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: an a SEC and a Big ten schedule. They mainly
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: play a SEC to ACC teams, but they play well.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: They actually played two SEC games and then the rivalry
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: game with USC and then the rest are a CC.
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: They technically play two.
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: They made the they made their rounds.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: They just will never It's that part doesn't really super
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: bother me because that.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Make too much money on their own independence like it,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it makes no sense to it.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: It's not going to happen change.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: But I guess where I'm going with it is if
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: you take those buys away, you don't have to have
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: a deal.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: With that conversation anymore.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: You leave it, you know, on campus, And I mean, hell,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: would it be cool for Benji You're in here like
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: that was great to have you know, you know, your
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: first round game in Austin, Like.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 5: How would it be to start out with?
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like if Kansas State come to Norman,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: you beat them, and then next up you have Clemson
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: come to Norman. You know, Clemson come into Texas for
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 3: a playoff game. That was a freaking atmosphere and that's
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: something that you know, that entire crowd is the first
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: to ever do it, and it was that was a cool,
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 3: cool thing.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: So let's uh, let's let's do that.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 3: I want to see more home games and maybe less
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: mains or Iowa State or or not Iowa State, but
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 3: Illinois State.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: I would definitely love to see more home games in
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: the playoffs. They're gonna probably expand it to fourteen, which
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 2: that's gonna piss me off, but whatever, can't do anything
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: about it. More playoff games doesn't make it better unless
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: they do like a playoffs through the conference, like you do,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: like a conference playoff that leads into like you find
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: a way that in the season, What is a conference
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: playoff that leads into the actual nations championship playoffs. That's
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: the only way to meet that would make sense. So
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know.
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 5: You know, I don't know.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know how to do it because again you
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: go to the sixteen teams, and I think that, you know,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: the bowl games continue to lose their importance. Sure, people
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: still watch it because it's like what is there a
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: week where it's like twenty straight days of college football?
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: Like people love it?
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: Like that's that's people are going to continue to watch
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 3: college football to go back on it and to root
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: four teams or root for players. You know, I don't
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: know how many times I watched the bowl game because
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: an X Sooner was there. So but I do think
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: that the bowl games, you know, if you do till
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 3: the final four, I think then those bigger bowl games
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 3: than the Cotton Bowl really doesn't mean as much anymore,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 3: or the Rose Bowl really doesn't mean as much anymore.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: And you're only going to get two of those name
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: bowl games incorporated, because what are you gonna do, like
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 3: take you know, the number six SEC team versus the
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: number eight Big twelve team and put them in the
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 3: Fiesta Bowl Like that's you know, that's just where I
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: you know, because they're not in the playoffs, you know,
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: so that's where I I just question that part.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 5: I do want to see more home game home games.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: Though, Yeah so, And my point when it comes to
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: the playoff piece going down, like I think, is it
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: the is it FCS that does this, Like they don't
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: play I don't they don't play twelve games in the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: season is probably reduced to like ten and then like
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: the last two is of like a fourteen playoff in
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: the conference to rank everybody at the end of the season,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: and then the winner of the conference goes into the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: final eight because I think there's eight see the FCS
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: or D two that does that. But anyway, they play
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: less games than what's played at this level while still
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: having teams feed into a playoff system that ends around
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: New Year's.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: That would be cool. If we could figure out how
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 6: That, that would be really cool and then just rotate
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: around where the national championship is because to me, I
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 6: kind of want those bowl games to come back as
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 6: to just like other teams in the conference to go
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: that don't make it into the playoffs, I guess cause
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 6: those places are still fun to visit.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: And go to the festivities of the bowl games. I
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: don't know there's a way that they can make that
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: playoff all the way down. It could go, It could
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: could it could work. Or you can do a playoff
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: system for P four and n G five separate. One
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: of the two will work.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: Or you could have two super conferences.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: Two super conferences will make it even easier.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 3: So I mean, that's just kind of what you know,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: that's the whole joke. The whole situation is we are
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: year one in the playoff and something's already looming. We
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 3: just don't know when, when it is and what it is,
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 3: but it is looming. And you know, again we haven't
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: heard any legal ACC talks, so now that college football
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 3: is wrapped up, we'll probably hear more of that kind
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: of coming in, you know, with this ACC and Florida
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 3: State and Clemson and everybody trying to leave like that's
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 3: that went pretty quiet for a while, but now in
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: the offseason usually when it chips up again.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: Florida State probably should not say much.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 3: This year because it's not like they held up their
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 3: own But I mean, this is is the I mean,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 3: NFL and college football are still the top two sports
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 3: and gets the most following, and it gets people the
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 3: most insane, It invokes the most fandom, and so I
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 3: think that college football is somewhat and especially for the
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: bigger programs, and you know stuff. You know, luckily for
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 3: us is it's always going to find a way to survive.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Think of Jeff Goldbloom in Jurassic Park. You know, life
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: always finds a way, and so I mean, football always
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 3: finds a way.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 5: And you know, it doesn't matter.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 3: We've made it through so many different things in NFL
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: and college football over the past couple of years. I'm
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: almost to a point where I'm like, it won't matter,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Like people will hate it and they'll just shake their
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 3: fist at the TV.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: Damn nil. All right, what times game next week?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: You know, no matter what, people want to watch the
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: games because the games are still widely entertaining.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: You're still widely entertaining.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: So no matter what, we enjoy the games, there's not
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: much we could probably do about that. So all right,
• 1:05:58
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• 1:06:01
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