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55KRC Wednesday Show - Jack Atherton, AFP, Leah Dinkelacher, Judge Napolitano · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five.
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  Speaker 2: A fifty five guarantee the talk station Happy Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: Some sad.
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  Speaker 2: indeed we are Happy Wednesday. Brian Thomas right here, let
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  Speaker 2: us se Joe Struck Orry belongs. He's the executro producer
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  Speaker 2: of this program. He lines up guests and two days
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  Speaker 2: one of my favorite days to be on the fifty
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  Speaker 2: five carese. You mor'ty showed not to gain any of
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  Speaker 2: the other regular guests that we have on the program, like,
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  Speaker 2: for example, Christopher Smithman on a Monday Tech Friday's Dave
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  Speaker 2: Hat or we're gonna dive into Dave Hat or in
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  Speaker 2: material here in just a second. As a million gazillion
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  Speaker 2: things going on in the world. But I saw something
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  Speaker 2: that illustrated what Dave had to repeatedly tells us week
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  Speaker 2: after week after week after week, consolidated into one over
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  Speaker 2: only frightening article. Anyway, big picture with Jack Avian and
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  Speaker 2: that's a Wednesday deal that's coming up at seven oh
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  Speaker 2: five today. The brilliance of Jack Athan will be revealed
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  Speaker 2: in his topic spy novels filled with history that sounds
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  Speaker 2: with Jack Cobs on the program. So seven o five
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  Speaker 2: if you can't listen to Jackathan and that's appointment listening.
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  Speaker 2: Donovan and Neil Americans for Prosperity. He's the state director
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  Speaker 2: of AFP Action in Ohio. Today he will be talking about, well,
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  Speaker 2: the fact that it is ninety eight days for the election,
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  Speaker 2: trying to get people to realize you've got to get
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  Speaker 2: out and vote. Please, Dear God, my left leaning Democratic
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  Speaker 2: Socialists of America folks out there, don't vote. You guys,
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  Speaker 2: go ahead and stay home. Anybody cares about the future
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  Speaker 2: of the Republic and maintaining what little freedoms we have
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  Speaker 2: left in this world, Please get out and vote. Anyway.
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  Speaker 2: We have a choice, Housted or Brown. I know who
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to vote for. We'll talk about that one
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  Speaker 2: plus days of action out of him. We'll explain that
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  Speaker 2: beginning at seven point thirty, followed by we need to
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  Speaker 2: keep Judge Leah den Clocker or Judge den Clocker great
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  Speaker 2: jurist and what are the folks you can count on,
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  Speaker 2: unlike certain other judges. Silverstein comes in mind. We need
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  Speaker 2: to have some good conservative, tough on law enforcement or
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  Speaker 2: good you know, supporting law enforcement and tough on crime judges.
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  Speaker 2: We'll hear from Leah Den Clocker eight five, follow by
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  Speaker 2: Judge Nita Paula Tin on why he thinks the Blanche
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  Speaker 2: nomination should be rejecting, suggesting a conflict of interest, but
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  Speaker 2: also a technological question. I wanted to ask him about
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  Speaker 2: a recent arrest, and I don't need to go to
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  Speaker 2: the details of the facts, but there was apparently a
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  Speaker 2: pass code this guy had on his phone. I imagine
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  Speaker 2: this is widely out there, and it dovetails quite nicely
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  Speaker 2: into this frightening orwellian article. I wanted to dive on
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  Speaker 2: into you type in, you know, password, like four digit
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  Speaker 2: password to open your phone up. He was ordered to
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  Speaker 2: provide that password by law enforcement at an airport. He
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  Speaker 2: gave him a password, but what the password did was
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  Speaker 2: delete the entire phone contents. So if you have like
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  Speaker 2: one one as you're open the phone password and let's
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  Speaker 2: say in his phone, the delete everything password was let's
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  Speaker 2: make one up two two two. He gave them the
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  Speaker 2: delete everything password, they type it in and basically the
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  Speaker 2: phone information evaporates, and he's been charged with destroying evidence
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  Speaker 2: on that one. Questions about the Fourth Amendment immediately arise, anyway, five, one, three, seven,
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  Speaker 2: and two three talk fifty on your AT and T phone.
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  Speaker 2: How total surveillance conquered the last sanctuary of human privacy
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  Speaker 2: headlined by author Milan Adams website prep group, and they
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  Speaker 2: identify all that the sources of the information, all statistical
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  Speaker 2: claims in this official government disclosures, Freedom of Information Act requests,
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  Speaker 2: whistleblower documentation. That is the this background source which allowed
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  Speaker 2: this author to arrive at these frightening realities that you
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  Speaker 2: and I are living under right now. Or wells moist
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  Speaker 2: dream has come true. So let's just dive on into
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to need you know the word for
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  Speaker 2: word for word. Let's just dive onto the main categories
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  Speaker 2: about how you are constantly being surveilled and what they're
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  Speaker 2: using with the data, and the frightening reality of what
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  Speaker 2: it is. He writes, this is the unvarnished reality of
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  Speaker 2: existence in twenty twenty six, Privately didn't merely erode, It
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  Speaker 2: was systematically dismantled, commodified, and fed into machine learning systems
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  Speaker 2: that predict your behavior before you conceive the thought. Prediction
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  Speaker 2: modeling actually part of this concern morning breaks, pre monitor
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  Speaker 2: Let's start when you get out of bed, which is
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  Speaker 2: pretty the gist of this home walking you through your
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  Speaker 2: whole day and how you're being monitored. Let's talk about
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  Speaker 2: smart mattresses, Internet of things devices, which Dave had are
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  Speaker 2: constantly warns about on a security level. But it's more
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  Speaker 2: than just the fact that they haven't factored in and
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  Speaker 2: provided you with enough protection from hackers hacking into your
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  Speaker 2: Internet of Things devices. It's what the information is being
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  Speaker 2: used to do about you, creating a dossier. If I
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  Speaker 2: can sort of metaphorically draw parallels to Casablanca, we have
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  Speaker 2: a complete dossier on you. Anyway, morning breaks, pre monitored,
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  Speaker 2: smart mattresses. I laugh at all this because I don't
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  Speaker 2: have any of this crap. Anyway, you may have one
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  Speaker 2: marketing innocuously for sleep optimization, have already transmitted heart rate variability,
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  Speaker 2: respiratory patterns, sexual activity frequency, parasympathetic nervous system indicators. They've
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  Speaker 2: all been transferred all that information to cloud servers before
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  Speaker 2: you even get off the get out of the bed,
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  Speaker 2: bathroom scales identify you by weight distribution patterns, a very
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  Speaker 2: unique genetic code. Toothbrushes. There's an internet of things toothbrush
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  Speaker 2: log duration and technique coffee makers. One of the jokes
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  Speaker 2: we regularly talk about with Dave time stamp your caffeine consumption,
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  Speaker 2: refrigerators take chloric incate dietary restrictions. Each data point seems
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  Speaker 2: trivial in isolation. Combined with all the other data points
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  Speaker 2: you'll hear about just in a moment. They construct behavioral predictions.
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  Speaker 2: Accurate enough to anticipate is to anticipate your mood, your destination,
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  Speaker 2: your risk level before you even consciously decide to get
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  Speaker 2: out of the house. It's by eight forty seven probability
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  Speaker 2: calculations assess your psychological statement. Really predictive models anticipate where
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  Speaker 2: you'll travel because they have patterns built in already from
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  Speaker 2: your prior data points. Risk scores can fluctuate based on
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  Speaker 2: deviations from your statistical norms. Sleeping longer suggests maybe depression markers,
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  Speaker 2: Skipping breakfast indicating financial stress, checking news before social media
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  Speaker 2: revealing political engagement levels and again levels. Why does this
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  Speaker 2: guy focus so much on politics when the guy next door.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't even pick up a newspaper or read anything online
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  Speaker 2: related to politics. See, there's different markers there, step outside
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  Speaker 2: and the grid titans. Modern vehicles contain fifty to one
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  Speaker 2: hundred microprocessors, three hundred plus sensors, and mandatory cellular connectivity
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  Speaker 2: that transforms automobiles into mobile surveillance platforms. Event data recorders.
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  Speaker 2: It's kind of like those things they have in airplanes
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  Speaker 2: capture speed breaking for seatbelt usage, steering angle g force
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  Speaker 2: thirty seconds preceding any incident, though incident remains deliberately undefined.
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  Speaker 2: The data retrieval requires neither warrant nor notification. In most jurisdictions,
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  Speaker 2: drive through a toll booth, pass a traffic camera, flocked parking,
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  Speaker 2: a monitored lot, and you've added it coordinates to a
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  Speaker 2: permanent travelogue. The word permanent is operative, reconstructing your movements
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  Speaker 2: across years years public transit, no refuge. There facial recognition
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  Speaker 2: payment systems, they had those in other countries. Pilot programs
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  Speaker 2: also now using biometric identities faster than card swipes. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: just dick your fingerprint here. You're logged in, timestamps, travel
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  Speaker 2: patterns logged into permanent that's that word again archives, arrive
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  Speaker 2: at work and enter the observation laboratory, key card entry, log, timestamps,
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  Speaker 2: precise location, computer systems record keystroke dynamics. Here's one. Typing
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  Speaker 2: rhythms used as identifying markers for you. Your rhythm's different than
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  Speaker 2: the guy next to you. Handwritten signatures. It's like the
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  Speaker 2: same thing that guy types in a certain weird way.
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  Speaker 2: Corporate networks proxy all traffic through monitoring systems capturing you
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  Speaker 2: are elvis it's message content, download, activity duration metrics, video
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  Speaker 2: analytics performed gate analysis. That's right, they're tracking how you walk.
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  Speaker 2: He has a particular limb, a gate pattern that is
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  Speaker 2: very specific to that particular individual. Guess what's marked down
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  Speaker 2: in a permanent place out in the world. Elevator weight
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  Speaker 2: sensors combined with camera footage determine occupancy and identity. Moving
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  Speaker 2: over to lunch. Identified as generating surveillance, gold mobile payment apps.
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  Speaker 2: Here you go, Venmo cash app, Apple Pay create financial
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  Speaker 2: surveillance networks exceeding any tax authorities, historical capabilities documenting transactions,
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  Speaker 2: social networks, relationship intimacy levels, location data harvested from apps.
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  Speaker 2: There you go with those apps, and day's been talking
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  Speaker 2: about that for years it's free. No, it's not. You
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  Speaker 2: got it free because they want what you are doing
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  Speaker 2: with it and everything that's on the device that you
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  Speaker 2: have the app on. Anyway, background refreshed capabilities with location
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  Speaker 2: data harvested from apps reveals restaurant choices, duration of days,
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  Speaker 2: table companions, subsequent destination. How about pharmacy visits? They trigger
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  Speaker 2: health condition flags, political rally attendance. Maybe AH generates potential
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  Speaker 2: risk score adjustments like they have in China. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you're like one step away from having a Chinese version
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  Speaker 2: of risk scores, just like your credit score. Folks, it's
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  Speaker 2: inevitable come back home things that you installed voluntarily, like
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  Speaker 2: smart doorbells ring nast Arlow record four hundred million video
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  Speaker 2: clips every month monitoring a neighborhood, providing neighborhood surveillance network
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  Speaker 2: accessible to well multiple thousands of police departments who various
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  Speaker 2: quote unquote partnership agreements requiring neither warrant nor homeowner consent.
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  Speaker 2: Amazon's Neighbors app encourages residents to flag quote unquote suspicious individuals,
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  Speaker 2: often coded language they say for racial profiling, maybe feeding
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  Speaker 2: machine learning systems training data on human suspicion patterns. There's
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  Speaker 2: something beyond just suspicious activity that you're reporting. Oh, you're
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  Speaker 2: the Missus Kravitz of the neighborhood for those who remember
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  Speaker 2: be witch by the way, this person reports suspicious activity
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  Speaker 2: all the time. Add that to her social network pattern.
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  Speaker 2: Domestic spaces now well sensor network. Smart speakers record ambient
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  Speaker 2: audio during wake, word activation, a documented cases of accidental activation,
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  Speaker 2: and human contractor review of private conversations, including intimate moments
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  Speaker 2: and medical discussions. Yeah, it's listening to you all the time.
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  Speaker 2: Smart thermostats track occupancy patterns and energy usage, also revealing
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  Speaker 2: daily schedules. Smart locks record entry and exit patterns shared
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  Speaker 2: with quote unquote authorized partners, including of course, law enforcement.
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  Speaker 2: Smart appliances monitor usage patterns and anomalous behavior. That's also
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  Speaker 2: in quotes. Head on over to television, which is watching back.
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  Speaker 2: Samsung LG Visio models collect viewing habits, search queries, voice commands,
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  Speaker 2: and in documented cases, transmits screenshots of displayed content every second.
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  Speaker 2: What are you watching on TV? Yeah, they know what
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  Speaker 2: you're watching, got the screenshots too. Streaming services build psychological
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  Speaker 2: profiles from consumption patterns, depression indicators from bins watching metrics,
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  Speaker 2: political orientation from documentary select documentary selections, cognitive patterns from
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  Speaker 2: pause and rewind behaviors. Do you ever think about that
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  Speaker 2: they were monitoring that type of minutia. They are moving
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  Speaker 2: over to sleep, providing no darkness. Tracker monitors are trackers
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  Speaker 2: monitor m cycles, apnea episodes, restlessness. Smart home systems adjust
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  Speaker 2: temperatures based upon detected occupancy, security systems log movement patterns,
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  Speaker 2: and in classified facilities while processing processing daily harvests, Quantum
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  Speaker 2: computers decrypt yesterday's quote unquote secure communications and then correlated
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  Speaker 2: all in a massive databases. The smartphone. There you go
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  Speaker 2: what they call surveillances or the surveillance engineering crowning achievement
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  Speaker 2: sixty three percent of humanity as a smartphone, exceeding anything
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  Speaker 2: to ittalitarian regimes of previous centuries. Imagine GPS location within
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  Speaker 2: three meters, Accelerometers revealing physical activity, health status, emotional state
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  Speaker 2: through movement patterns, gyroscopes mapping spatial orientation, barometers calculating altitude changes,
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  Speaker 2: identified building like identifying building flow. They know what floor
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  Speaker 2: you're on. Microphones activate remotely without indicator lights. Edward Snowden's
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  Speaker 2: disclosures confirm that ability. Cameras provide similarly accessible Bluetooth scans
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  Speaker 2: identify nearby devices, creating social network maps. Wi Fi mapping
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  Speaker 2: enabling indoor positioning accurate within one to two meters. They
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  Speaker 2: know where you are within your house thanks to your WiFi.
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  Speaker 2: Apps transform these sensors into comprehensive surveillance tools. Weather apps
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  Speaker 2: sell location permission data to brokers. Flashlight apps, they've got
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  Speaker 2: those which happen to access cameras and microphones in your
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  Speaker 2: cell phone, social media harvest, contact lists, message content, photo metadata,
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  Speaker 2: navigation apps logging every destination, root, duration, speed. How about
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  Speaker 2: your dating apps revealing intimate preferences, location patterns, communication content.
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  Speaker 2: I bet divorce lawyer have a field day getting that
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  Speaker 2: information from your provider. Fitness apps can go on and on,
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  Speaker 2: and encryption forget about it. They call it theater, not protection.
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  Speaker 2: And here's some fun fact that I learned this morning
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  Speaker 2: from this one. There are these collection programs out there.
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  Speaker 2: The UTAHS NSA data center processes yota bytes. Never heard
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  Speaker 2: of that until this morning. Storage capacity so vast it
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  Speaker 2: could contain all human communication for millennia. And on those
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  Speaker 2: massive data storage facilities, they are storing your encrypted communications
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  Speaker 2: why future decryption. Once quantum computing renders our current standards obsolete,
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  Speaker 2: they're going to go back and rerun all your encrypted
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  Speaker 2: stuff that they couldn't decrypt previously. M technology catches up
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  Speaker 2: financial surveillance, moving fast forward an amount of time, there's
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  Speaker 2: three more pages of this stuff. Is there anything you
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  Speaker 2: can do about it?
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  Speaker 4: Not?
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  Speaker 2: Really? Get your Faraday cage on your phone. It's going
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  Speaker 2: to render your phone completely useless basically until you take
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  Speaker 2: the Faraday cage off of the phone and then guess
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  Speaker 2: what all the information is there? Again? Functionally impossible to
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  Speaker 2: opt out except with cash. That's one of the things.
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  Speaker 2: Cash transactions, however, facing increasing restrictions, do you frequent businesses
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  Speaker 2: that refuse to take cash. I try to stay the
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  Speaker 2: hell away from I don't park where you need a
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  Speaker 2: QR code to park, not because you know I'm worried
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  Speaker 2: about data collection, because it pisses me off. We live
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  Speaker 2: in a strange world, folks, who's watching the watchers five
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  Speaker 2: twenty two? If you have cares to detalk station, be
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  Speaker 2: right back to decoctation five one three eighty seven four
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  Speaker 2: eight two three thought times like this you on eighteen phone?
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  Speaker 2: Things are all right with the world because Tom's on
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  Speaker 2: the phone. Tom, welcome back this morning. Good to hear
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  Speaker 2: from you as.
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  Speaker 5: Always, Yes, good morning. And today would have been the
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  Speaker 5: eighty fifth birthday of Billy Purser, also known as Gary Burbank. Great,
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  Speaker 5: great voice, and that the one of the many voys
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  Speaker 5: in my head. One time we moved under from Florida
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  Speaker 5: back in nineteen ninety. So talented man, Yes, very talent
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  Speaker 5: And in honor of Gary Burbank. You know what makes
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  Speaker 5: me sick? You know what? You know what makes me
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  Speaker 5: so mad? I just want to roll around in poison
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  Speaker 5: ivy and use a wirebrush to clean it off. People
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  Speaker 5: who vote Democrats? What is what is wrong with you people?
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  Speaker 5: What is what is in your head that you've decided
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  Speaker 5: to just Oh, I'm just gonna let people take what
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  Speaker 5: they want from me, because I'm gonna get these few
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  Speaker 5: scraps that I think are free, but because I'm too
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  Speaker 5: stupid to realize that nothing they tell me that's free
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  Speaker 5: is actually free.
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  Speaker 2: No, they've just been They're victims. They're victims of their
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  Speaker 2: own human characteristics, covetousness, greed, and envy. Yes, they have
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  Speaker 2: played into the class warfare argument. Someone has more than you,
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  Speaker 2: So you should be pissed off about it and have
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  Speaker 2: the government, through a legal mechanism, take what the guy
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  Speaker 2: who's got more than you has and give it out
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  Speaker 2: to whoever they think is worthy of getting it. Probably
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  Speaker 2: not you who voted for that sort of mentality, but
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  Speaker 2: they're gonna take it anyway and do what they want
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  Speaker 2: with it. And it still won't be enough, Dave, because
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  Speaker 2: we all know we've got forty trillion dollars in debt
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  Speaker 2: because they didn't get enough from all the people who
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  Speaker 2: actually earned something, they got to take more.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not you guys aren't smart enough. They are
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  Speaker 5: voting for Democrats and really some of these other other guys,
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  Speaker 5: you know, these rhinos or whatever, you're not smart enough
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  Speaker 5: to real that they're not doing with the money what
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  Speaker 5: they say they're going to do with the court night.
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  Speaker 5: Some of it's going in their pockets, their buddies' pockets,
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  Speaker 5: you know, the people that keep How do you think
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  Speaker 5: these people can afford all these millions and millions of
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  Speaker 5: dollars that go into these campaigns. Eventually it's coming from
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  Speaker 5: your pocket. You're paid for it because you know they're
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  Speaker 5: taking it and they're using it on ridiculous stuff that's
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  Speaker 5: not necessary, but it's lining somebody else's pocket. Come on,
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  Speaker 5: come on, people, wake up. We got an election coming up.
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  Speaker 5: We need to understand what's going on, and we need
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  Speaker 5: to make sure we don't vote Democrat.
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  Speaker 2: Have a great day, do the same, Tom. I appreciate
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  Speaker 2: that you can feel free to chime in as well.
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  Speaker 2: Just give me a call. Bat are the local stories here.
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  Speaker 2: We got a New York man who pleaded guilty in
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  Speaker 2: federal court yesterday. Why transporting a minor across state lines
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  Speaker 2: with the intent and to gauge in criminal sexual activity.
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  Speaker 2: This related to the disappearance of a Colraine Township teenager
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  Speaker 2: who was missing for about a month. Kyle Lawrence, forty three,
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  Speaker 2: from Buffalo, admitted that he used oh Look social media
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  Speaker 2: Snapchat in this particular case to communicate with a sixteen
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  Speaker 2: year old girl and use the app's location services to
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  Speaker 2: find her. Gee. We seem to be on a theme
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  Speaker 2: this morning. Joe from Buffalo to Cincinnati twice in January,
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  Speaker 2: running a jeep with New York plates to make the trips.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there's surveillance video. In this particular case, worked out
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  Speaker 2: surveillance video license plate readers hotel receipts see all of
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  Speaker 2: It's right there, confirmed that he and the minors stated
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  Speaker 2: at Cincinnati area hotel together January thirty. First teenager found
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  Speaker 2: in mid March with another man in Florida. Her disappearance
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  Speaker 2: prompted searches by the FBI as well as our family
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  Speaker 2: and friends. Of course, prosecutors say not. Lawrence's first contact
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  Speaker 2: with law enforcement reported the FBI and back in May
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  Speaker 2: of twenty four after a citizen vigilanti group confronted him
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  Speaker 2: in Canada, where prosecutors say he had traveled to have
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  Speaker 2: sexual contact with the purported fifteen year old. I think
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  Speaker 2: we got an award to give out. Joe Fbia and
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  Speaker 2: the Buffalo also sees several electronic devices from his home containing,
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  Speaker 2: of course, child sexual abuse material. Facing a minimum of
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  Speaker 2: ten years in federal Big Boy prison, both sides recommended
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  Speaker 2: that ten years sentence be followed by lifetime supervisor release.
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  Speaker 2: No sentencing data has been said. Judge's gonna have the
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  Speaker 2: final say on that one.
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  Speaker 6: PERI is the biggest douche of the universe in all
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  Speaker 6: the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached
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  Speaker 2: Your dreams have come true.
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  Speaker 1: Huh.
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  Speaker 2: Joey's trying to have sex with a minor and he's
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  Speaker 2: going to be in federal prison for ten years minimum.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to enjoy himself. Hmmm. That's the
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  Speaker 2: only comfort I can take and something like that. Maybe
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  Speaker 2: I want to share it with this one. The award.
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  Speaker 2: Dell High Township woman indicted on patient endangerment charges after
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  Speaker 2: allegedly leaving a disabled man alone overnight, who was then
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  Speaker 2: found the next morning lying on the floor in soiled clothing,
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  Speaker 2: unable to get up. Ianna Casey arrested July seventeenth by
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  Speaker 2: del High Township Police, bombed out of the Hamilton County
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  Speaker 2: Justice Center and entered a plea of not guilty do
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  Speaker 2: back in court guests on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: Court.
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  Speaker 2: To the court police records, Casey allegedly created a substantial
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  Speaker 2: risk to the health and safety the victim she was
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  Speaker 2: assigned to care for by leaving him alone overnight. Incident
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  Speaker 2: occurred in January at apartment in thirty two and a
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  Speaker 2: block of Canvick Terrace and Hiviot. Victim, who has a
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  Speaker 2: developmental disability. Court records say found the next morning by
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  Speaker 2: another staff member lying on the floor in soiled clothing.
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  Speaker 2: Court to the police report, neglect reported by the company
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Casey worked for the employee state of the victim fell
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  Speaker 2: onto the ground and could not get on his feet,
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  Speaker 2: and two occasions during the incident, employee told police Casey
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: could not be contacted. During her assigned shift, Casey reportedly
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  Speaker 2: never returned from doing a load of laundry. When the
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: company attempted to contact Casey to discuss what happened, she
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: immediately quit and didn't return any calls. All right, Casey
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: indicted on Friday. Last company that employed Casey reportedly alleged behavior.
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  Speaker 2: Attempts to reach a company for comment unsuccessful. Brittany harry
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Over at Fox nineteen tried that who's watching your disabled parents?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: And finally officers called yesterday after reports of two juveniles
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  Speaker 2: trying car doors in the Vridian apartment lot. Police say
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: they spotted the suspects actively checking handles and arrested them,
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: both charged with criminal mischief and curfew violations. Taken to
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: juvenile detention. Hey, Joe, maybe we should have an independent
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: story reporting that cops actually took juveniles to juvenile detention.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: I didn't think that ever happened. That doesn't I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how long they stayed there, probably like in the
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  Speaker 2: revolving door and then right back out. Joe's guessing thirty seconds.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I'm going to back you on that one, Joe. Maybe
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: there's an over and under on that. Bobby can chime in.
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  Speaker 2: Investigator say one of the juveniles was previously arrested back
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  Speaker 2: in May after a stolen vehicle crashed into a utility pole.
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  Speaker 2: Danny Brandhorse, whose vehicle was involved in May incidents of
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: the latest arrest brought back the impact of the crime. Yep, oh, boy,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: that doesn't back bring back memories. Please say, I don't
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  Speaker 2: believe anything was stolen during the incident. Yesterday, authorities are
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: reminding residents please lock your vehicles and keep your valuables
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  Speaker 2: out of sight. I remember the old lock your junk
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  Speaker 2: in the trunk campaign back in the old Chief Strikers
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  Speaker 2: since Saint Police Department days, still a valid suggestion. Five
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  Speaker 2: looking at local politics issues. And this may very well
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  Speaker 2: follow to the stack of stupid, but just some you know,
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  Speaker 2: another thought exercise you can think about, and he came
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  Speaker 2: up with it, uh posts yesterday, guys, you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: Right now? It's more expensive for a Cincinnati public school
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  Speaker 2: education than a college education. Now you know that the
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  Speaker 2: Sinni Public Schools is preparing to have do an income tax,
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  Speaker 2: first ever earned income tax levy. Make one hundred grand.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna get point seventy five off of that, translated
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  Speaker 2: into seven hundred and fifty bucks a year that you
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  Speaker 2: will pay in addition for the Cincinni Public Schools because
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  Speaker 2: they want to make an additional seventy four million dollars annually.
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  Speaker 2: Break it down, will you, Adam? He says, for the
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty six seven academic year, full time in state
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  Speaker 2: undergrad tuition and mandatory FEESI the University of Cincinnati's Uptown
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  Speaker 2: campus my alma mater fourteenth, eight hundred and twenty four bucks.
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  Speaker 2: Since any public schools spending per student annually twenty one thousand,
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  Speaker 2: seven different. So on that comparison. Adam points out since
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: a public school spends about forty five percent more to
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  Speaker 2: educate one single K through twelve student for a single
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  Speaker 2: year than the University of Cincinnati charges an Ohio resident
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  Speaker 2: for a full year of undergraduate tuition and fees. Huh,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that's interesting, isn't it. In more stupid, we got to eleven
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  Speaker 2: in Tennessee where a woman's been accused of exposing herself
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  Speaker 2: during a traffic stop. Why are you doing that? I
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: don't know that. We're gonna find out. Eleven And Police
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  Speaker 2: Department in Tennessee said officers conducted a traffic stop this
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  Speaker 2: was last night, I believe, after seeing a passenger not
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  Speaker 2: wearing a seatbelt. Police said. The canine named alerted officers
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  Speaker 2: to the possible presence of narcotics in the vehicle. There's
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  Speaker 2: your answer, Joe, sixty six year old passenger was removed
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  Speaker 2: from the vehicle. What are you thinking about? What she
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  Speaker 2: might look like? Joe remove from the vehicle, reportedly began
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  Speaker 2: to expose herself to passing drivers on Highway one oh Night.
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  Speaker 2: Officers then found what was suspected to be cocaine, as
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: well as drug paraphernalia on the woman and the sixty
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  Speaker 2: eight year old mail driver. Both arrested without incident, now
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: facing multiple charges. According to the police department's posts, great
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  Speaker 2: work by Canine Donner and our d shift officers for
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: their continued commitment to keeping our community safe. Man, drugs
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: making you some really weird stuff. Bella Vista, Arkansas. I'm
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: sorry Bentonville, Arkansas, where a Bellavista man was reportedly killed
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  Speaker 2: last fright after crashing into a portable toilet that fell
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  Speaker 2: onto Interstate forty nine in Bentonville. Do what the hell?
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  Speaker 2: Should we just end it there and let people speculate
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: how in the hell that happened? Courted fatal crash report
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  Speaker 2: from the Arkansas State Police. Ronald Langley driving his Honda
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  Speaker 2: south on in the middle lane, July twenty fourth, two
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  Speaker 2: o'clock in the afternoon. That's when the two thousand and
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  Speaker 2: seven International Harvester truck was transporting to portable toilets when
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  Speaker 2: one fell into the middle lane of I forty nine.
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  Speaker 2: According to report, Langley's vehicle hit the portable toilet and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: that's when he suffered fatal injuries. Driver of the truck
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  Speaker 2: International Harvester truck not identified in the report. No other
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: injuries reported. They said weather was cloudy, roadway was dried
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: at the time of the crash. Arkansas State Police was
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: asked to about this and determine whether any citations were issued.
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  Speaker 2: They hadn't heard about from that yet. I imagine, so
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  Speaker 2: you're to properly secure your portable toilet, I imagine falls
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  Speaker 2: into the category of some offense under Arkansas law. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: freak accident. You never know when the numbers coming up
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  Speaker 2: you or anybody else. Oh look, that's got faces of
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: meth guy coming up in more stack as stupid. I
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: wonder if meth nfetamine is even involved in that particular story.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know.
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  Speaker 2: We'll find out together, or I'll be happy to take
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• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Donald Neil returns for Americans for Prosperity to talk about
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: the Houston versus Brown race, as well as explaining to
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  Speaker 2: us what days of action are. Can only hope that
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: it means an opportunity for him and anybody else who's
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  Speaker 2: involved with AFP to get people out to vote in November.
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  Speaker 2: Judge Leah denk Locker eight oh five, and of course
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  Speaker 2: Judgjenna Paul Tano, it being a Wednesday at a thirty
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  Speaker 2: over to back, returning to the stack is stupid. We
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: have an indecent exposure story here. Happened in allen You know,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: isn't that the truth? Allentown, Pennsylvania at the Palmer Township Gym,
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  Speaker 2: thirty five year old Stephen McCarthy charged with two counts
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: of misdemeanor simple assault, one count of one count summary harassment,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and one count summary disorderly conduct. Well here are the details. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: He's previously been a rain. Bail was set ten percent
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  Speaker 2: of one hundred grand, and he did make mail apparently,
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: so he posted his ten grand. Anyway, Township police showed
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: up about seven thirty pm Friday when they were called
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the super sets Jim for reports of a man pleasuring
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: himself inside of a bathroom stall. How hard is it,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but it sounded like Graham Platner, remember
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  Speaker 2: his is common about that Joe on social media about
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  Speaker 2: being in a portolet. For whatever reason, Graham crazy Platinir
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  Speaker 2: no longer in the race for main senator. Thankful God
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: for that. The smell of a portolet aroused that guy. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: we have a similar incident here with this guy a
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  Speaker 2: bathroom stall I know well. Officers were on their way there.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: An additional call came in reporting that this McCarthy guy
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: was allegedly fighting with people in the locker room. Two
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: men told police they witnessed McCarthy exposing himself in the
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  Speaker 2: stall and moaning.
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  Speaker 5: This.
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  Speaker 2: According the affidable to probably cause out against this McCarthy character.
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: When he left the stall, he tried pushing through the
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  Speaker 2: men and began swinging at them with closed fists until
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  Speaker 2: they wrestled him to the ground and called police. I'm
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: struggling if I was in that position, whether I would
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  Speaker 2: be the one he would be willing to wrestle this
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: guy who was pleasuring himself in a bathroom stall to
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  Speaker 2: the ground, Joe, I'm with you on that, just as
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  Speaker 2: I'm not touching his hands and he began swinging at
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: them with closed fists. Anyway, he has a prior criminal
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  Speaker 2: history shocking literally, no one court record show he's placed
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: on federal probation following charges in a separate case in
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: the past. Details of that particular case not provided in
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: the reporting. He's due bad for another hearing. Of course,
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  Speaker 2: didn't even have the decency to close the door of
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the stall. Well, I don't think he had an opportunity
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: to wash his hands, because he got it. He started
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: beating people up when he walked out of the stall,
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: So you know there's a logistical problem with accomplishing the
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: hand washing thing, Joe. Anyway, this guy looks like a
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: faces of meth guy. Have you've never seen the faces
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: of meth thing four and after picture? Amen? Brother? I mean,
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  Speaker 2: how anyone would put a meth pipe to their lips
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: after seeing any before and after a picture? Is just
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: beyond my comprehension. Anyway, this guy looks like he's eligible
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: for it. Although meth n fedam Me not mentioned this
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: particular case. Man allegedly pointing guns at traffic at passing
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: vehicles arrested. His name Glenn Lee Perry. He's fifty three,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: charged with unlawful use of a weapon misdemeanor, fourth degree assault,
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: first degree harassment, misdemeanor, misusing nine one one, and resisting haress.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Charged with separate case of repeatedly misusing nine one one
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: earlier in the year. Probable cause statement issue in this
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: one says Parley or Perry rather called dispatchers making several threats,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: including saying he was going to kill the nine to
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: one one operator and that he was, in his words,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: ready for a fight. Other person who had called nine
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  Speaker 2: to one stating that a man was pointing two guns
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  Speaker 2: at vehicles that were driving by in the fourteen hundred
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  Speaker 2: block of West Whorley Street cornered the police. Police called Parry,
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: and he allegedly admitted that he was the guy doing it. Why,
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: according to the statement, for his protection police went to
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: the resident I know get a load of this one,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: reminding me of the late Si Lease. Remember when Silis
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: bought a tank. Police went to the residence with an
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: armored vehicle made commands for him to come out. Previous
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: reporting indicates he was arrested at four o'clock in the
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: morning on Saturday after a brief interaction with the police department.
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: And finally, we have a former US Postal inspector, a
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: federal law enforcement authorized officer who was authorized to carry
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: a firearm, make arrest and execute search warrants, has agreed
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: to plead guilty to allegedly stealing more than three hundred
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: and thirty thousand dollars in cash from packages that were
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: mailed by elderly victims and then laundering the cash and
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: found to report it to the irs. Apparently used the
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: cash stole and cash to pay for a pool patio,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: granted countertop for his outdoor bar, lighting for his pool
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: and bar, Caribbean cruise expenses as well as escorts. What
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: do you think that is? Joe fifty year old's gott
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: Kelly a Pembroke mass That's the guy agreed to plead
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: guilty to forty four counts of a forty five count
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: indictment return by the Federal Grand jury in Boston agreed
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: to plead guilty of five counts of wire fraud, multiple
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: counts of mail fraud, as well as a male theft
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: by a postal officer. This goes on and on and on. Anyway,
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: he was a Postal inspector at the Boston Division headquarters
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: of the US Postal Inspection Services, that is, the law
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: enforcement arm of the Postal Service. He also became the
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: team leader of the Male Fraud Unit, which is charged
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: with investigating lottery and other scams, the targeting senior citizens
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: and vulnerable populations, the population that he, of course stole from.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: He used deceptive emails to cause unwitting Postal employees to
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: inner packages at a us PS algorithm had flagged as
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: likely having been mailed by scammed victims, and then send
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: those packages to him. Allegedly requested that approximately nineteen hundred
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: and fifty packages be intercepted and mailed to them. It's
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: alleged the open the intercepted packages, looked that looked and
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: felt like they might have cash in them, and then
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: stole it. The indictment identifies multiple victims who were scammed
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: in a mail in cash in parcels that he allegedly
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: intercepted and open and then stole. Average age of the
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: victims seventy five oldest victim, eighty two victims mail between
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: fourteen hundred dollars and nineteen thousand dollars in cash, and
• 36:41
  Speaker 2: one victim died after Kelly was indicted. And I don't
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: know that that was a related issue anyway, Postal service,
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: and some want the postal service to be responsible for
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: the mail in ballot thing that always kind of worried
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  Speaker 2: It's the terrence element. We need people to be punished
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  Speaker 2: saying that we have pretty much run out of missiles
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  Speaker 2: and weapons. A bit of an overstatement on my part
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  Speaker 2: in the middle of a war with Iran officials and
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  Speaker 2: is running out of ammunition. That was the explanation officials
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  Speaker 2: to stop his nightly bombing of Iran over its closure
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  Speaker 2: prepared for major military escalation. Suddenly the leakers undermine the
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  Speaker 2: credibility of that US result by telling the press and
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  Speaker 2: therefore the Iranians that the US can't sustain the fight.
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  Speaker 2: Journal asks do the leakers think this public admission of
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  Speaker 2: weakness will make the Iranians more likely to open the strait?
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  Speaker 2: Do they think it's wise to tell the enemies trying
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  Speaker 2: to kill the US soldiers not to worry about sustained
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  Speaker 2: American response? This is an astonished display of incompetence or
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: disloyalty or both. Well, that's their opinion on it. But
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  Speaker 2: the brief comment by the journal concludes, if the US
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: really is running out of missiles and interceptors, that should
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: be a five alarm fire. Mister Trump should be calling
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: on Congress to skip its recess and do something about
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: it immediately, in the rallying of industry for that effort.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: But if the missile gap is being floated for political
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: purposes by officials who want Trump to stand down, then
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: the President should banish those voices from the situation room.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: Either way, they're laughing in Tehran. Well, maybe Tehran did
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: get the message. Maybe they do understand, because apparently it
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: is widely known. Daniel Davis pointed this out because I
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: asked them specifically about that. Are we really running out
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: of these weapons systems? Absolutely, says Daniel Davis. And again
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing, but every single one of his sources, and
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: he's got a lot of them, have told him the
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: exact same thing. It is no mystery and apparently is
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: no secret in the world that that's the reality. He
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: also doubled down, or pointed out or reminded us, depending
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: upon where you are in terms of your knowledge, based
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: on how long it takes to manufacture something like a
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Patriot missile, A very long time their custom handmade weapons.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: I think he mentioned one of the weapons, whether it
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: was a Patriot or one of the other ones. It
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: takes one full year to make one. Of course, you
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: can be making tens or twenty of them at the
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: exact same time, but annually, you can't produce these things
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: quickly enough to use in warfare. Most notably modern warfare
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: that involves swarms of drones that are well, it's pretty
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: stupid to waste some multimillion dollar missile, like a Patriot
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: missile firing at a sea of ten thousand dollars. Drones
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: maybe even less money than that. They're very inexpensive, is
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: the point. So that was the journal speculation. Of course,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: you know, Daniel Day was like, no, we are, we're
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: running out, and so what do we got? Yesterday Ron
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: launched a surprise ballistic missile attack on American forces. They
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: fired rockets into Jordan. Apparently we shot them down successfully intercepted,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: according to the US sources. But the assault will raised
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: the prospect that American forces will have to respond, as
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: negotiations were supposed to be starting hours before Iran unilaterally
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: launched this barrage of missiles into Jordan at our military base.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: Trump said that the US will would restart strikes against
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Iran if the ceasefire deal couldn't be agreed upon. So
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: it's almost as if because Trump said that out loud again,
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: and he said that multiple times. If we can't work
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: this out, we're going back to war. We can't do this,
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: We're going to start bombing him you don't Fox and
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Friends yesterday. They know I'm going to do it, and
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: if they don't make a deal, the bridges are going
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: to be gone, literally in less than I would say,
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: two hours. Most of the bridges, the major bridges, will
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: all be gone and the power plans in one day
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: and shortly thereafter Iran launches these missile strikes. Are they
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: calling his bluff? It's a legitimate question, isn't it. And
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: then pivoting over on the same exact topic, Admiral Pierre
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Vander he is NATO's top transformation commander, and he also
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: was issuing a warning to the West that we need
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: to change our strategy in so far as warfare is concerned,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: based upon what we've learned in this particular thing. Now,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: apparently there was a summit, but this is the NATO
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: Supreme Allied Commander talking to Fox News. The summit that
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: they were there produced commitments to acquire nine hundred Patriot
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: missiles and invest more than forty billion dollars in counter
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: drone capabilities over the course of five years. But he
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: pointed out that you know, buying more of the West's
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: existing weapons, in other words, the weapons systems and the
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: idea that our model, our defense model, and our warfare
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: model was designed for smaller numbers of incoming threats. Remember
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: the scud missiles, for example, they weren't very accurate, but
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: a single missile coming in to try to provide, you know,
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: a larger explosive impact, you can shoot one of those
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: down with a Patriot or other some other expensive mess
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: weapon system that we have. They're not doing that. They're
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: putting in swarms of drones, inexpensive, quickly manufactured, and easily
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: replaceable drones. Totally ineffective to have a Patriot missile shooting
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: at one of those. So our defense models designed for
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: smaller numbers of incoming threats. And this conflict, as well
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: as the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, same kind of
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: concept going on, showing that you know, you've got to
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: you've got to find out some other way beyond you know,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: patriots and FAD missiles to shoot these things down. He said,
• 44:47
  Speaker 2: there's no way to produce fifty thousand Patriots a year.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: We don't have the supply chain, and it's not worth
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: doing given the cost of the weapon. They basically can
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: bankrupt the United States of America by continuing to shoot
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: over inexpensive swarms, of whether or not they actually hit
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: their target and do any damage. Here we are launching
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: multimillion dollar weapons systems of those things. Hmmm, who's going
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: to win that battle of attrition? Vanders said, NATO needs
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: a layered mix of defenses. This seems like state in
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: the obvious cheaper weapons that can be mass produced to
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: counter the waves of drones. Also, while preserving these advanced
• 45:24
  Speaker 2: weapons in case they happen to launch a long range missile,
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: for example, you still need the patriots. You still need
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: to go after sophisticated threats. And in the meantime, the
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: vast majority of the warfare is being conducted by very
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: inexpensive weapons. You said, you need to have attributable, low cost,
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: mass produced weapons to just kill the low cost weapons
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: that are coming by in big ways. And then you
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: still need those exquisite complex weapons to kill the most
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: complex weapons. And like a ballistic missile makes sense now.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Trump announced at the summit where those weapons commitments were made,
• 45:57
  Speaker 2: the United States would be granting Ukraine a license to
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: me manufacturer patriot interceptors. Well, that would allow Kiev to
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: make these things. But what's the problem with that? Equation,
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: the same thing Daniel Davis brought up the other day.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: They're expensive to make and they take a long time
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: to make. Asked whether that announcement changed his assessment that
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Patriots alone could not protect Europe throughout the next five years.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: Vandir the commander pointed to a deeper obstacle. Western weapons
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: were designed around an industrial base that does no longer exist.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: The design needs to change, he pointed out. We are
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: at a moment where some stuff will be redesigned under
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: pressure to be mass produced. And that's where I thought about,
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: Daniel Davis. I did not know those things were handmade.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I kind of assumed they were assembly line made. So
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: something has to be done by the way of quick
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: manufacturer mass production. We need to be better at moving
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: on the fly. And this Vandier general guy, he gave
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: Russia credit for being able to do that. He said this,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: Russians have demonstrated and ability to absorb battlefield lessons and
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: adjust only a weekly basis, pointing out in war, if
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: you do not adapt, you die. All your brain is
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: about how you outmatch, outpace, outrun the enemy. And so
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: Russia not bad at that, he said. Us, however, and
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. In
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: terms of weapons manufacturers, I did see that they're using
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: a previously used, long time used machine gun and they
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: attach it to a artificial intelligence. It's like a turret
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: of sorts. It's a multiple it moves on a pivot anyway,
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: an old school machine gun. I think it was a
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: forty millimeters round. It doesn't matter what the round was,
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: but very inexpensive instantly can target these tiny little drones.
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: So using mere bullets to come out at eight hundred
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: and fifty rounds a minute, you can shoot down a
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: lot of a drones using artificial intelligence. That is an
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: inexpensive solution, and it's a frontline solution. I saw an
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: article the other day about it. So you know, we're
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: developing these types of quick to use, less expensive forms
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: of technology. But we got to get on it because
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: currently m hmm, we're running out of stuff. Going back
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: to the five alarm fire mentioned by the Wall Street
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: Journal six seventeen, right now, Randy, your next don't hold
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: I don't go away, man, I'll take your call right
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: out of the gate. I want to mention QC Kinetics
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• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Wednesday for listener lunch. Looking forward to that as I
• 48:26
  Speaker 2: always do. On the phone, Randy was kind enough the
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: hold of the break. Welcome Randy, thanks for holding. Good
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: to hear you, hear from you this morning.
• 48:33
  Speaker 9: Hey, Brian, it's the round man, my alpha round man. Yeah,
• 48:39
  Speaker 9: long time, long time from you that start.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: Geez.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: I'm having massive flashbacks of great memories, Randy on the phone.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: We he and I went to college together. We would
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: sit and do the crossword puzzle and drink what four
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: pup pots of coffee in between classes in the morning
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: at the fraternity almost every day, Rand, I really miss you, man.
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: What's on your mind today? Thanks for calling?
• 49:03
  Speaker 9: Hey we all. First of all, you know Botom, prayers
• 49:06
  Speaker 9: to you and and everything you're going through. And you
• 49:09
  Speaker 9: know on days that you're you're not on you know,
• 49:13
  Speaker 9: my heart just is sad and just well, you know,
• 49:16
  Speaker 9: I'm constantly thinking of you and prayers. But topic conversation
• 49:21
  Speaker 9: I want to discuss, and I don't know if you
• 49:22
  Speaker 9: still have the news story, but data Massachusetts, this is
• 49:26
  Speaker 9: how crazy the world is getting. And every day I
• 49:28
  Speaker 9: shake my head, but they are implementing an eleven person.
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: They're calling it a Muslim Commission. And I have no
• 49:38
  Speaker 9: problem with Muslims, Buddhists, Baptists, what Catholic, whatever religion you are, right,
• 49:44
  Speaker 9: The issue here is that the whole premise of this
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: commission is to identify and promote people of the Muslim
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: faith into government positions. And that's the whole, you know,
• 50:02
  Speaker 9: the whole idea behind this Muslim commission, and the reason
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: I take issue with it. Again, I don't care what
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: religion you are, what faith you are, but you know,
• 50:14
  Speaker 9: if they set up a Catholic commission, or a Baptist commission,
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: or a Buddhist commission and with the same idea behind it,
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: people would be up in arms.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: But for some reason, well my reaction, my METI reaction
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: would be that will be a violation of the establishment clause.
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: Exactly, and good. I don't understand how they're trying to
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: get around this. So anyway, I just wanted to bring that,
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: you know, up for discussion. I'm not trying to raise anyone.
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: I'm just trying to you know, it's a topic conversation
• 50:45
  Speaker 9: that I think is is it's crazy in my mind.
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: It is absolutely crazy. This is one of the reasons
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: that I'm angry with people who don't like the vague
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: Ramaswami because he happens to be Hindu. I keep pointing out,
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: we don't live in a theocracy, and one's religious philosophy
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: not work its way into laws and edicts, mandates or
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: executive orders. If they are spring from religious ideology and
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: they have no connection with the realities that you and
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: I face as constituents or citizens or residents in any
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: given community, then that shouldn't be part of government. We
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: shouldn't have to worry about that. And we've got a
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: constitution that protects us from establishment of religion. You know,
• 51:23
  Speaker 2: the rubs a lot of my Christian friends the wrong way.
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: We're a Christian nation, nation that was created by mostly
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: Christian men. Yes, I get that, but those men in
• 51:31
  Speaker 2: the document that they created pointed out that we don't
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: have establishment of religion. That is freedom. We live under
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: the umbrella of the free exercise of religion. We don't
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: need to establish a community to get more people of
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: any particular faith in government to the extent that is
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: something that their resume includes their particular faith. And you
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: find it compelling to vote for someone because of their
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: particular faith. That's one item on a long checklist of things,
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: including their policies on things that matter to all of us,
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: that you might consider. That's an individual choice. Government shouldn't
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: be involved and out there, you know, recruiting people of
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: certain faiths in the government. You should also ask youself
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: why would they be doing that? Hmmm hmmm, why might they?
• 52:17
  Speaker 2: Randy Man, great hearing from you, boy, that brought back
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: wonderful memories. Six twenty six fifty five car se De
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• 52:33
  Speaker 2: happy Wednesday to you boy. I'm particularly happy after hearing
• 52:35
  Speaker 2: from Randy fond memories of college boy.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: I love college.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: And thanks for the well wishes from Brandy as well.
• 52:45
  Speaker 2: I told you I was gonna have my doctor's Boyman. Yesterday,
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: I did get the scan. They said no sign of lymphoma,
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: which was wonderful I found out and was confirmed yesterday.
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: My cancer doctors said it there's nothing there. The lymph nodes,
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: all of them, I guess dormant, not active. In other words,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: the the the whatever red flags showed up that said, Brian,
• 53:01
  Speaker 2: you've got lymb foma no longer exists in my body.
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: I have a file up appointment in April or in
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: August or October rather and no more treatments. Now, I
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: went through this before. I got five years of remission,
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: and I'll take that. If I get five, that's great.
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: I have every expectation that some sign of lymphoma might
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: come back down the road. But you know what, thank
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: you from the bottom of my heart. How just wonderful
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: it is to have people out there that were praying
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: for me and to hear from them, and so do
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: support your cancer friends. It's the one thing we can
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: all agree on in this insane world where things divide us.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: All cancer sucks. So start from that. I always joke
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I have over my entire life, you know, pre cancer diagnosis.
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: When you're starting a conversation with someone, try to start
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: from a place where we all agree on. You're ding
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: the wolves den and you are going to be the food,
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: and you're trying to preserve your life. To start by
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: walking in and say, hey, can we start on a
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: point of agreement? Every right in the room. I know
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: we all disagree on most things, but how about a
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: hand raise. Does everybody agree in this room on one
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: thing that cancer sucks? There you go an entire room
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: full of people in full agreement, and start there, power, prayer, support, love.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: I think it all means the world. And I certainly
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: turn to my family and thank them from the bottom
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: of my heart for all the support I've gotten over
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: the this entire process, which has been going on for
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: quite some time now. Anyway, with to Sinceni Public Schools,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: and thank you again to Adam Kaylor for crunching the
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: numbers for us and reminding us that you know, my
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: alma mater charge is fourteen thousand, eight hundred and twenty
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: four dollars for in state tuition. University of Cincinnati tuition
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: nfees fourteen eight hundred and twenty four dollars, while the
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati Public school operating spending per student is twenty one thousand,
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: five hundred dollars, a forty five percent difference. It's cheaper
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: to go to college than it is to educate a
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: child at the Cincinni Public schools, if you call it
• 54:51
  Speaker 2: an education. Sorry for the shot. Anyway, they're asking voters
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: to consider an earned income tax. They want more money.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: The cps does Board of Education voted on one day
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: to replay to place eight point seventy five earned income
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: tax levy on the ballot. You'll get a chance to
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: vote on it. I think there's going to be more,
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: you know, hearings on this. But if you approve that,
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: it'll generate for the Cincinni Public Schools seventy more million
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: dollars annually, with revenue projected to grow additionally up to
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: two million dollars annually as your wages increase. That according
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: to Mike Augustin, who was speaking with wcpo's Valorie Alliance
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: about this earned income tax based upon residents wages and salaries,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: not anything to do with property. Levy will apply only
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: two people who live within the Cincinni Public School District,
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: regardless of where they work. One hundred thousand dollars annual
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: earnings will require you to pay seven hundred and fifty
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: bucks annually under this proposed rate. However, they will not
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: apply that to retirement income, social Security benefits, or investment income.
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: So the seniors out there are going to get a
• 55:56
  Speaker 2: break from this. One don't want to apply to them. School
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: income tax is a little different here municipal income taxes
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: generally based on where a person works. School district income
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: taxes are based where a person lives. That means, if
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: you're a Cincinnati resident but you drive out to Mason
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: or someplace else, you're still paying the school income tax
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: if the levee passes. However, if you work in the
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: city and you live outside of the CINCINNTI Public School district,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: you will not be paying it. So that's fundamentally how
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: that's going to work. I'll leave it to you to
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: decide whether you think they need and deserve the additional money. Also,
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Issue three is on the ballot. You may be scratching
• 56:35
  Speaker 2: your head over that, because yes, Ohio does require a
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: voter to show a photo ID when casting a ballot
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: in person drivers license, US Passport, Military ID. You can't
• 56:44
  Speaker 2: use a bank statement or utility bill must be a
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: valid photo ID. All the rules are in place under
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: law in the state of Ohio, but not under the constitution.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: The reason issue three is on the ballot they want
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: to memorialize the current statutory requirements for photo ID into
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: the constitution so some future uh, you know, elected group
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: of officials in the House and Senate and Columbus don't
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: change the law on us. So a vote on Issue
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: three means you want to make the current voter ID
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: requirements basically more difficult to change if so, if you
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: do that, it becomes part of the constitution. It will
• 57:18
  Speaker 2: require an amendment to the constitution to remove the photo
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: ID requirement. And there are arguments back and forth on
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: whether or not this is needed or appropriate. Of course,
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: folks on the left say it's already part of the law.
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: We don't need to be doing this, and others say no, no, no,
• 57:33
  Speaker 2: because you nefarious, evil democrats. Of course, you know how
• 57:35
  Speaker 2: this is broken down politically, are going to come in
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: and require and take away the photo ID requirement. So
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: a vote for yes on three, we'll put it in
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: the constitution and you will always have a photo ID requirement,
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: absent a follow up constitutional amendment. Five one three seven
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna try to tune into that one. Got comments
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: on that a moment, but I would got phone calls
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  Speaker 2: on the line. Let's start with Matt, who called first. Jay,
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  Speaker 2: hold on your next Matt, thanks for calling this morning.
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, hi Brian, thanks for checking my call. Yeah, I
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: got some. I got a comment on something Daniel Lewis
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  Speaker 10: said yesterday about a missile taking two years to make.
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  Speaker 2: No, it was one, it was I think it was.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was the Patriot, and it's Daniel da
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: If you're referring to the Daniel Davis deep die that
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: was Daniel Davis. Yeah, the retire lieutenant colonel. You can
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: get the podcast on the podcast page. Wait, I think
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  Speaker 2: he was talking about the Patriot missiles. Don't hold me
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  Speaker 2: to that, but one of the more complex expensive weapons systems.
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  Speaker 2: He described them as handmade and requiring about a year
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  Speaker 2: to make one. So go ahead with that.
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  Speaker 10: Okay, Yeah, I don't believe. I can understand. Maybe it
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  Speaker 10: would take a year. Is the equivalent of around two
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  Speaker 10: thousand man hours. I can under stand it might take
• 59:01
  Speaker 10: two thousand man hours to make a missile, but they
• 59:04
  Speaker 10: would make this component on this machine and at the
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  Speaker 10: same time they would make this component on that machine,
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  Speaker 10: and so on, so on and so forth.
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  Speaker 2: That sounds it.
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  Speaker 10: Would do stuff simultaneously. Because I've been in I've been
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  Speaker 10: in manufacturing facilities for forty years. I know that, and
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  Speaker 10: I've been in places where they hand built the machines
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  Speaker 10: and they don't just make this part and then they
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  Speaker 10: then they'll next make this part and then they do
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  Speaker 10: them simultaneously, bring them all together. So I believe so
• 59:34
  Speaker 10: that's probably what he's talking about. It takes two thousand
• 59:36
  Speaker 10: man hours to make a missile. But I can't believe
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  Speaker 10: that if they if the government puts in an order
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  Speaker 10: for five hundred missiles, that are you later or no?
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  Speaker 2: I agree, Well, there's no way that you're understanding of manufacturer.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: I guess you've made a very.
• 59:53
  Speaker 10: Valuable and a lot of it is negative on Trump.
• 59:56
  Speaker 10: I mean, I've listened to your program a lot and
• 59:58
  Speaker 10: a lot of what he says isaive on Trump, and
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 10: I just think this is just an only one.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you can say that, and I agree with the
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: way you describe the process, and maybe you are right
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: boiled down. It is two thousand man hours effectively one
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: year worth of work. And I can't imagine that, you know,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: we go and and and go out to one of
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  Speaker 2: the subcontractors who makes, you know, precision machine tool parts
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  Speaker 2: and order one for the one missile or working, and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: then wait around till next year for the next missile
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: there working, and then order one of those. Now I
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: agree with you. I think you're absolutely right, But I
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: think the broader point on that is they're not quickly manufactured,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: and you can't overlook the fact. And this has nothing
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 2: to do with Trump. This is whoever the president of
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: the United States of America. If you're making patriot missiles,
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: they are really really expensive, and they do take a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 2: lot of time to make, and they're stupid when it
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: goes to fighting drones. That has no political stripe whatsoever.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: And I know it sounds like he is being critical
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: of Trump, but he's he's looking at this from a
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: warfare perspective. And what did he say early on in
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: this conflict. It's not going to be as easy as
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: you think. It's not to be as quick as what
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump says. It's not gonna okay. And guess who
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: turned out to be right, because I got a lot
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: of email and phone calls about that. Oh he just
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: hates Trump. He just doesn't think that we should be
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: engaged in warfare. His motives and his reason for suggesting
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 2: maybe the warfare was the wrong way to go. And
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the alternative was, to be quite
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: honest with you, but that these challenges were known ahead
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: of time, like the closing of the Straight of Horror Moves.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: We talked about that yesterday. I said, did this sort
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: of just mysteriously or magically appear before the Iranians that
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: because we started bombing them, that they, oh, they woke
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: up to the reality that damn, why don't we just
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: close the Straight of Horror moves and just screw around
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: with the entire world's economy. He said, No, They've been
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 2: talking about that for years and years and years now.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I don't have any inside information. I don't talk to
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: generals and people in the know that are working in
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: the military right now. He does, so I kind of
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: rely upon him as a source for this type of information,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: and a credible one he is. I don't think he
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: bears any particular animosity toward Trump. I think he maybe
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: bears a particular animosity towards the warfare decision making. And
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: you know, I'll go back to the fact that I
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: said early on, and I still believe in the Constitution,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: the supreme law of the land. And I got all
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: kinds of constitutional problems with the War Powers Resolution, because
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: I do think it's an unconstitutional delegation of power. But
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: neither of them were followed. And the point I was
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: making early on, you need involvement with our elected officials.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: We're gonna start waging war. Maybe some other people's voices
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: should be heard. Did anybody raise their hand ahead of
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: time and start talking about, well, what about the straight
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: of horror moves? You know, twenty percent of the global
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: economy is based upon the straight of horror moves. We
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: start in a war with Iran, There're gonna be a
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 2: problem there. There's gonna be a problem there. I mean,
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: did they have that conversation.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: But you can be critical all day long on Daniel
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: Davis if you want, and you can pride that type
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: of analysis. I thoroughly appreciate. But what he has been
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: saying has actually borne fruit or turned out to be
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 2: pretty darn pression as we're staring at the realities today, like,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: for example, why did Iron unilaterally start bombing yesterday after
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump specifically said, if we don't get this piece
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 2: deal off the ground, we're going to have to go
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: back to bombing your bridges and your facilities, and your
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 2: infrastructure and your petroleum facilities. Like within two hours of that,
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: they started bombing again. Are they calling a bluff based
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 2: upon widespread reports of our limited military hardware which no
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: one seems to dispute. Don't know, Jay, You're next, hold on,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: don't go away, six forty six right now, fifty five
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  Speaker 2: That'd be Wednesday, aft top of the our news. He's
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 2: ready gonna hit the ground running after the news with
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  Speaker 2: a big picture with Jack Athen in today's topic spy
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  Speaker 2: novels filled with history, and that reminded me of and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Jack Athens listening right now. He's getting ready to talk.
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  Speaker 2: William F. Buckley Junior Books. He wrote a series of
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: spy novels back in the day that there was a
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: lead character in called Blackford Oaks. They were fascinating, and
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: I had a friend of mine had the entire series
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: and I read one after another after another. If you
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: want to learn about the Cold War and the way
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  Speaker 2: things sort of used to be back in the fifties
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 2: sixties era, those are really really fun novels to read,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 2: or spy novels. Anyway, today's day, are you read to
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: be watching Anthony Fauci going to the Senate hearing room today?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: He's got a pardon. Is that gonna help him out?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 11: Not?
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: If he lies today? Should be pretty easy to catch
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: him in a lie unless he's brutally honest today, reflecting
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: the fact that he absolutely outright lied to everyone in
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: America and the last time he's in front of the
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Senate testifying. But you can't get him for perjury because
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: he's been pardoned. You can if he does something on
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: a going forward basis, though, Fauci in the crossairs today,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: you think he's going to assert his Fifth Amendment right
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 2: to be free of self incrimination. I don't know if
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: he can do that since he's gotten part for his
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: press behavior. And I'll get to Jay, just call back,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 2: So one second, Jay, I have to point this out.
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  Speaker 2: You know what really irks me more than anything being
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: lied too. Honestly, I did not care that Bill Clinton
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: had sex with Monica LEWINCEI I don't even care where
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: it doesn't matter to me, didn't impact my life, and
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: iota that's an issue between him and his wife. What
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: really irked me was him outright lying to us in
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: our faces. And I'm more angry of course about doctor Fauci.
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 2: He allowed millions of people to die, He killed economies,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: he ruined children's lives with the shutting down of the
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: education system. Encourage that man be years and years and
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 2: years of analysis and books written on the carnage that
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: that man unleashed on the world with his lies and
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: also his funding Gaina function research at the Wuhan Institute
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: of Virology, among other places. Jay, thanks for calling back man,
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 11: Thank Brian Hey.
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  Speaker 7: Quick question on Faalcy. First, can they test that in court?
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 7: The whole premise that you can be proactively pardoned for
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 7: crimes that didn't commit, shouldn't they Should they make a
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  Speaker 7: run at that.
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  Speaker 2: I think they will. They could all. I think I'm
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: safe in saying all options are on the table or
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: remain on the table.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't think he's got a slam dunk, which
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 7: just because Biden says I'm proactively pardoning you for anything
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 7: you've ever done, ever will done. I don't think or
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 7: ever will do. I don't think that's going to hold it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: I hope anyway. Hey, the real reason for the call,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 7: I've expressed my frustration with Bernie Sanders Marino, who came
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 7: across as a conservative and then decided to partner up
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 7: with Elizabeth Warren to increase the size of big government
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 7: through Social Security, and that we're not spending enough and
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 7: he's going to remove the cap. So my first idea
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 7: to him was, how about you going from the fraud
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 7: before you start growing big federal programs.
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  Speaker 11: I have another idea.
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  Speaker 7: Public school employees don't pay into Social Security, so if
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 7: everybody should pay their share, why doesn't he bring that
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 7: idea up to his galpal, Elizabeth Warren, non safe, non liar,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 7: and see if she'll go along with that idea of
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 7: get the public school, get the school unions, teachers' unions,
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  Speaker 7: and all the administrations, get them paying into Social Security
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  Speaker 7: because right now they.
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  Speaker 2: Pay zero because they have a pension. Correct, well, lots of.
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  Speaker 7: People have a pension.
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  Speaker 11: I have a pension a place.
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  Speaker 7: That I worked, and I was never able to opt out.
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  Speaker 5: I would have opted out of.
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  Speaker 7: Social Security at eighteen years old if they would allow me.
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  Speaker 7: I never had the option.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have an option that to me is a
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: better solution going forward, giving us the option to place
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: money in our own privately held, untouchable by government fingers,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: personal accounts, or investment purposes, because the return on investment
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: over time, as history is demonstrated, would in you were
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: to our benef fit far better than relying on promises
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: from the government which have absolutely no weight or authority
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: under law. They say they can give you money under
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Social Security, but right there in the fine print or
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: actually boldprint, it's not guaranteed and they can change it
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: at any time. Appreciate it, Jay, I don't know. I
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: really don't. I'm not going to defend Bernie Rino all
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: day long on that concept. I think he was just saying,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: we need to get the ball rolling. Social Security is
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 2: on a train wreck. It will collapse. The date is
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: known to everybody. There needs to be some sort of solution.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: Here's a proposal. Let's get the ball rolling and at
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: least talk about it. We get rid of the cap.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: People continue to pay you no longer subject to whatever
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: cap it is one hundred and fifty or whatever. You
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: continue to pay into it like you do with income
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: tax or whatever. All right, it's an idea. Can we
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: have other ideas advanced to talk about this? Because, oh, parenthetically,
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 2: like I just said, the whole thing's going to collapse
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 2: on itself. Going back to my comment about promises from
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: government six fifty six, Jack added it up next with
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  Speaker 2: a big picture. I hope you can stick around.
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  Speaker 3: Put the app in happening.
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  Speaker 2: It's seven five here at fifty five carsite. He talks
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• 1:09:21
  Speaker 2: hello to the folks that are listening on podcasts later
• 1:09:23
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• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: Jack added, and it's time for the Big Picture with
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: the brilliance of Jack Adada. Welcome back, Jack Man. It's
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: always great heaving on the program.
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  Speaker 12: Good morning, Brian. You were mentioning those terrific spy novels
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 12: by William F. Buckley. Yeah, I really enjoyed those.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you, I'm glad for a while, Jack. That's one
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: of the reasons I brought out. I knew that was
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: a book that you had to are Those were books
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: you had to have read since your topic today's spy
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: novels filled with history, because that's exactly what those books are.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: Very historically accurate and really good, well written books.
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  Speaker 12: So well not always read. Do you and Paulette enjoy
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 12: audio books?
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: Don't? I don't. I mean I have listened to them before,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: but I man, I can't remember Lesbian Year. As a
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: matter of fact, I think the last time I listened
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: to an audiobook it was probably on a cassette.
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  Speaker 12: Amesley and I listened to them in the car. Sometimes
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 12: we take long drives just to keep listening, which gets
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 12: expensive with today's gas prices. A series of novels that
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 12: became best sellers during World War II are now making
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 12: a comeback thanks to Audible in the Audio Book Company.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 12: They're packed with espionage, high society, Golden Age Hollywood, and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 12: as you'd expect, since we were fighting Hitler, Mussolini and
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 12: Tojo back then, international politics. What's remarkable, Brian, is the
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 12: two giants who stood polls apart politically urged everybody to
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 12: read these books, the arch conservative and war leader Winston
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 12: Churchill and the democratic socialist and pacifist Albert Einstein both
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 12: called Upton Sinclair's Lanni Budd books the best way to
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 12: understand how the world plunged into two world wars and
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 12: then a war against a new axis of evil that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 12: we're still fighting today. Maybe I can weigh in on
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 12: a run at the end of this sure The hero
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  Speaker 12: of these eleven novels, Lannie Budd, is the son of
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 12: a munitions maker. Having grown up in Europe at the
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 12: turn of the century, Lannie speaks all of its languages
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 12: and has friends in every country. Following World War One,
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 12: the teenager volunteers to translate for American diplomats at the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 12: Versailles peace Conference. We have talked my friend about my
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 12: hope that Donald Trump will not surrender, but our incredible
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 12: military one in Iran the way Woodrow Wilson's disastrous peace
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 12: treaty led directly to World War II. During the nineteen twenties,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 12: Lanni Bud marries a celebrity heiress think Paris Hilton or
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 12: whoever is big today on TMZ. In page six, It's glamorous,
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 12: but Lannie tires of being a playboy, especially when a
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 12: German friend becomes a high level Nazi and introduces Lannie
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 12: and his wife Irma to Adolf Hitler. Like Nancy Astor
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 12: and many wealthy Americans, Irma turns into a Nazi sympathizer,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 12: so Lannie poses as one two, but actually becomes a
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 12: secret agent for Franklin Roosevelt. There is intrigue, breath taking escapes,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 12: and a panoramic view of every event you can imagine,
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 12: from evacuating British troops at Dunkirk to swimming with movie
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 12: stars at William Randolph Hurst's ranch San Simeon, to conferring
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 12: with Joseph Stealin in the Kremlin, and even young Mause
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 12: Dung in his mountain cave during the Chinese Civil War.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 12: My dad recommended these books when I was twelve, and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 12: he ignited my passion for politics and journalism the way
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 12: journalism used to be. Upton Sinclair was a muckraker, and
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 12: that's what they called investigative reporters who exposed corruption. He
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 12: did wherever he saw it, starting with his nineteen oh
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 12: six novel The Jungle. You may have read that, na, Yeah,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 12: most kids didn't. Our day. That novel The Jungle unmasked
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 12: Chicago's meatpacking industry politically, Upton Sinclair was a socialist because
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 12: socialism at that time had never been tried. That's why
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 12: the author cheered on the newborn Soviet Union after the
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 12: First World War and its nationalization of industry. Sinclair quoted
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 12: his real life pal Lincoln Stephen's claim about the new Russia.
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 12: I have seen the future and it works. But by
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 12: the nineteen fifties, when the last Lanny Budd novel appeared, Sinclair,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 12: like George Orwell, had come to realize that Marxist big
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 12: governments inevitably turned to talitarian It's one theme of our
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 12: weekly talks, Brian power corrupts and absolute power corrupts, absolutely exactly.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 12: The other theme is Andrew Breitbart saying that politics is
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 12: downstream of culture, including poisonous pop culture. Yet even before
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 12: Upton Sinclair realized the truth about Marxism, Even as a
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 12: young journalist, Sinclair had always been fair, not like today's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 12: so called journalists and university professors. Following his hero, the
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 12: playwright George Bernard Shaw, Sinclair was always open to debate
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 12: in his search for truth, So in the novels, he
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 12: lets Lanni Bud's father make a powerful case for limited
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  Speaker 12: government and free market capitalism, even though Lannie himself becomes
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  Speaker 12: a champion of FDR's New Deal and fair. By the
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  Speaker 12: time Upton Sinclair died in nineteen sixty eight, even many
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: Conservatives had come to support social security and some other
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: New Deal safety nets, but not when they became an
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 12: excuse for power grabs and graft as in today's Minnesota, California. Everywhere,
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  Speaker 12: Democrats use social spending to buy votes and skim millions
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 12: billions off the top for themselves, and too often establishment
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: Republicans also don't want to derail the government gravy trade,
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 12: even if it means our country's national debt. Whoever talks
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  Speaker 12: about that anymore is heading.
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  Speaker 3: Off the rails.
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  Speaker 12: Upton Sinclair illustrates the clash of ideas through actual personalities
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  Speaker 12: and events. For instance his portrayal of Hitler from the
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  Speaker 12: Munich beer hall push in the nineteen twenties until his
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 12: suicide in nineteen forty five. Brian, It's the most riveting
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 12: portrait I've ever read of Edicte. In one scene, Hitler
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 12: takes Lenni to the topmost peak of his mountain retreat
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  Speaker 12: on the Austria border and explains how Nazism was inspired
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  Speaker 12: by jihadist Islam, so much for trying to cut a
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  Speaker 12: deal with the IRGC and Churchill Stalin mal They're each
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 12: allowed to make their case through words and deeds. Because
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 12: the author and his hero don't tell you how to think.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 12: They show the truly genocidal consequences of not thinking of
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  Speaker 12: mass indoctrination and tyranny. Not many libraries today still carry
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 12: the Lenni Budd books. It took years for me to
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 12: assemble the whole series from used booksellers, so I cannot
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 12: thank Audible the audiobook company enough for recording all eleven novels,
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 12: performed terrifically by Bronson Pinchot. You remember him Balky from
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 12: the old sitcom Perfect Strangers. He uses more accents than
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 12: you can hear at the un The guy is fabulous, folks.
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  Speaker 12: I cannot imagine a more exciting or thought provoking gift
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 12: for a teenager or for yourself. Upton Sinclair the Lenny
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  Speaker 12: Bud series. What do you say, my fellow book lover,
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  Speaker 12: about this or if you want to talk about it.
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  Speaker 2: Iran, let's talk about it roun. All I can say
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  Speaker 2: is I have not read them. Ergo, I now have
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  Speaker 2: a reading assignment. I'm going to dive into those, because
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: I'll have to go to audible, maybe start spending time
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: listening to books on tapes or books audio books as
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: opposed to the Heck's going on here? Joe, you get
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: an errant finger that now it's just a live the No.
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  Speaker 2: I I got a reading assignment or listening assignment to
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  Speaker 2: do on that one. I appreciate the recommendation. They sound
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  Speaker 2: absolutely fascinating and a bit of parallel to the Buckley books.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: Kind of a parallel to the Buckley books too, since
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 2: he wrote one about Cheguo Vara too, is an in
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: depth sort of person to person, long winded account of
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Jagovar the man and what he stood for and all that.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: It was absolutely fascinating, so excellent, excellent points there. So
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: reading assignments or listening assignments for everybody. Let's pivot over
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  Speaker 2: to Iran. You said you wanted to talk about that. Please,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 2: let's do that, all right.
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  Speaker 12: I know this is controversial with a lot of our
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 12: audience were kind of split, and forgive me for mentioning it.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 12: But if folks go to my podcast page, the one
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 12: that's set up by Joe, just search for it. The
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 12: big picture with Jack Atherton and the most recent discussion
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 12: from May thirteenth, although we talked about them the Iranians
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  Speaker 12: being conqroach just before then. That one from May thirteenth
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  Speaker 12: is called Iran and never Land. We discussed the danger
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  Speaker 12: of negotiating. We're trying to negotiate with Iran's jihadist mullah's
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  Speaker 12: and revolutionary Guard. It will not work right because they're
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 12: fanatics demanding death to America for forty seven years as
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  Speaker 12: well as as death Israel. And that's when we had
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 12: endless missiles to pump al them with. But unlike many critics,
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  Speaker 12: I think President Trump was right in June of twenty
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  Speaker 12: twenty five launching Operation Midnight Hammer to degrade Iran's clear
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  Speaker 12: nuclear capacity, And when Iranian negotiators told Steve Whitcoff last
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  Speaker 12: February that they had reconstituted enough highly enriched uranium to
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  Speaker 12: build eleven nuclear bombs, I think Trump was right to
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  Speaker 12: degrade Iran again. At that point. The President could have
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  Speaker 12: pledged to resume bombing whenever US and Israeli intelligence detected
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  Speaker 12: emergency activity at Pickax Mountain or other nuclear sites, but
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  Speaker 12: having killed Iran's Ayatola and other top leaders at that
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  Speaker 12: infamous February twenty eighth pancake breakfast or you could eat
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  Speaker 12: until you died. Trump thought we could co opt Iran's
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  Speaker 12: new regime leaders as easily as he had co opted
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 12: Delsi Rodriguez in Venezuela. But it wasn't that easy. The
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  Speaker 12: difference was that Maduro's vice president is not a fanatic,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 12: she's an opportunist. The Venezuelas or were Trump Coll's scum,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 12: but reasonable scum, and Venezuela did not have a so
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  Speaker 12: called mosaic leadership structure that lets free agents in Iran
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  Speaker 12: keep fighting as they're doing it. The Strait of Horror moves.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 12: Faced with endless cat and mouse tactics in Iran, Trump
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  Speaker 12: for the last five months has threatened various actions, including
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 12: naval escorts so ships could freely pass through the strait
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 12: as they really need to twenty percent of the world's
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 12: oil capacity. But President Trump has never followed through. That
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 12: has emboldened the Arabians, its hiked inflation, especially oil prices,
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 12: and threatened his own midterms. Colonel Davis knows better than
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  Speaker 12: I do, but I have never believe we need boots
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  Speaker 12: on the ground to defeat the IRGC. I do think
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  Speaker 12: we need consistent and suffocating economic pressure. Did I mention consistency?
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  Speaker 12: We need to let Israel kill in transigent leaders like Vahiti, who,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 12: by the way, is not a third stringer. He was
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 12: just retired and he came out after that breakfast. We
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  Speaker 12: need to kill those leaders the way we killed the
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  Speaker 12: ones of the February twenty eighth get together, instead of
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 12: letting them by time by stringing Trump a lawn. And
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 12: we need to encourage Iranian dissidents. Something you never hear
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  Speaker 12: about the way the Allies in World War II encouraged
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  Speaker 12: and funded Charles de Gaulle in exile and resistance fighters
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 12: throughout France, while FDR and Churchill will consistently demanded unconditional surrender,
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 12: not negotiations with Hitler and Mussolini.
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  Speaker 2: And tojo real quick here on that.
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  Speaker 12: Just finished with this. The worst thing we can do
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  Speaker 12: right now is thither, and that's what we've been doing.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 2: A couple of points here. You know, in terms of
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  Speaker 2: kinetic action, I guess you have to be able to
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  Speaker 2: back up your threats with the ability to use military
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: force effectively enough to defeat your enemy. And there seems
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 2: to be some swirling question of whether we have enough
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: missile capacity to do that. There's one issue at this point,
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 2: right Cia, I guarantee you is trying to foster and
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 2: encourage dissidence within the Iranian community. I can't imagine them
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  Speaker 2: not having taken that opportunity, having been involved with it,
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: perhaps maybe for years and years. We've always heard these
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: swirling rumors like we have in other conflicts. Well, all
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 2: we need to do is help you, like, for example,
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: the Iraqi people, you know, get rid of Saddamusin and
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: then they'll rise up. All we need to do is
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: get rid of the Ayatol and then the Iranian people
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: will rise up. And you expect that to happen. But
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 2: in an unarmed society where they have these military police
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: going around murdering people who dare lift a raise a
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: finger of protest, it's a little difficult to get people
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: to do that. So arming them, coordinating with them, training them,
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: that takes time, and I do believe those activities have
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 2: to be going on. I can only imagine. And then
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  Speaker 2: the other question I have to ask you, because this
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: has been brought up many many times, you said, let
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 2: Israel go after these evil doers, right, and I just
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: sort of scratch my head. Does Israel need our permission
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: to do anything? Really? It's an independent country with its
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: own thought process, its own leaders, and maybe it has
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: its own different interests in mine. I mean, can't they
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  Speaker 2: just go ahead and do that on their own. The
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: idea that we specifically control all things in Israel, I
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 2: think feeds the fodder the anti Israeli crowd out in
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 12: Donald Trump was telling Israel that they could not respond
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 12: to attacks from Lebanon by HISBOLA, the ide the Israelis
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 12: can go off and try to unseat the IRGC and
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 12: the IATOLA by themselves. I mean, he's just he's not
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 12: allowing them to do that. Can they do it? Certainly
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 12: they can, But you know, this is not the way
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  Speaker 12: that FDR and Churchill coordinated things. And I think we
• 1:23:57
  Speaker 12: have to do better. As for the CIA, believe me,
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  Speaker 12: under John Ratcliff's leadership, I am not impugning their integrity
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 12: or their competence, but I don't see any evidence of
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  Speaker 12: encouraging anyone, whether it's Raza Polavi, the son of the
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 12: deposed Shah, who was of course outside of Iran, or
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 12: people within it. Back in World War two. Just to
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 12: use that as an analogy. De Goal in London was
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 12: making broadcasts and we encouraged them, and we were actively
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 12: trying to come up with some opposition. Look, a lot
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: of people never want to talk about regime change, and
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 12: I would have been one of them. But if we
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 12: are in the middle of this thing, the idea that
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 12: we're just going to constantly go back to the well
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 12: and try to negotiate with the Iranian scum because we
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 12: think that we found somebody who A is reasonable and
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 12: B has some power to actually make a deal, and
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 12: C can actually follow through on a deal. How much
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 12: longer can you go on with this?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 12: Donald Trump never talks about the fact that he will
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 12: only be in office now for less than two and
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 12: a half more years. How long?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: Right? Well, you know, and real quick, just have to
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: make one other observation, because it seems to be there's
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: sort of swirling question marks about who is sitting at
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: the table and who has the ability to negotiate on
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: behalf of the Iranians. Clearly, you have the IRGC and
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 2: the terrorist factions aligned with their insane theocratic, you know,
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: hatred toward us and their refusal to sit down and discuss.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 2: But then there seems to be this moderate faction within
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: the Iranians, and I think that's what feeds the idea
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: that there is some hope perhaps of a peaceful resolution
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: on this. Some within the Iranian government might want to
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: do that and avoid further conflicts, but they seem to
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: be well overruled by or maybe the IRGC just unilaterally
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: does what of the hell it once? I just sort
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 2: of think about a foreign government coming here and talking
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: with the Democrats about entering into some sort of agreement
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: on some topic, and then the Republicans saying, hell, no,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 2: we're not going to do that. So I'm not sure
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  Speaker 2: what the status is politically within Iran, but that there
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 2: seems to be some division within it.
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  Speaker 12: Yes, and there usually is that kind of thing. Admiralayamamoto
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 12: didn't want to start World War two, but at some point,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 12: you know, you have to go along with what the
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 12: government is doing, and that Mosaic strategy means there is
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 12: nobody that you can easily talk with. Mosaic simply means
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 12: you've divided the country up. I think it's twenty one
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 12: different provinces something like that. They're not political entity, but
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 12: for all practical purposes. They're operating entities, and it makes
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 12: it very difficult to deal with this so called regime
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 12: because it's not really a regime. It's just a bunch
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 12: of guys who are going to keep this thing going
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 12: until Donald Trump leave's office. And I don't want to
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 12: get into the personalities who may succeed him on the
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 12: Democrat and Republican side, but that's what they're counting on.
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: Jack guy, that is always excellent. I love our conversations.
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• 1:27:00
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  Speaker 2: that right?
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  Speaker 3: What?
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  Speaker 2: Ninety eight days Donovan Neil, welcome back, my friend. Always
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  Speaker 2: great having you on.
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  Speaker 11: Brian, good to be back with you on Wednesday morning.
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  Speaker 2: Ninety eight days. TikTok, TikTok.
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  Speaker 11: I know, yeah, Well, the countdowns on it is. We're
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 11: what probably about sixty sixty eight days or so until
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 11: the first ballots are cast here in Ohio in the
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 11: twenty twenty six interm elections, and people still Brian aren't
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 11: quite sure what they're going to be doing when they
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 11: get to the ballot box. Can you believe it?
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  Speaker 2: No? I can't. But then again, it's the struggle I
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: have every single day of the week with your ard
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: matters political So few people have any time, at least
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: they think they have no time to pay attention to
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  Speaker 2: political matters when it literally impacts so much of every
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: element of our life, it seems to me it should
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  Speaker 2: be one of the most dominant things people should be
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  Speaker 2: spending time. I'm on.
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  Speaker 11: Well, yes, and as I've said many many times over
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 11: the years on the show, right, we're the weird folks,
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 11: you know, you me and Joe, We eat, sleep, and
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 11: breede this stuff all the time, they know.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 5: So I have a little.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 11: Sympathy for our for our our colleagues who don't friends
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 11: and neighbors who don't have to who don't you know,
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 11: imburse themselves in this every day. But it's important stuff.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 11: The you know, from the price of milk at the
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 11: grocery store, to gas in the car, to you know, home,
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 11: and and uh, the opportunities you have in a job
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 11: to even pursue your career of your passion right, all
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 11: are impacted by who we send to represent us in Columbus,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 11: but even more so importantly Washington, d C. And this
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 11: US Center race that's coming up between Sharon Brown John Houstead.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 11: It's a big one and it's gonna quit. It's quickly
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 11: becoming the number one race to watch in the United
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 11: States for the balance of power in.
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  Speaker 2: DC, which means we are going to be inundated with
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: the massive fat bank cash revenue from the political action committees.
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 2: And I say political action these I saw an article
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 2: just yesterday the Democratic National Committee had to put up
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: its headquarters as collateral for a fifteen million dollar loan.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: Apparently the DNC is really really short on cash, especially
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: when you compare to what the RNC has. But that
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: doesn't mean there's not literally hundreds of millions of dollars
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: out there among the private left wing sector who will
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: be funding the Shared Brown campaign. Well, you know, for.
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 11: The DNC, they their candidates Joe Biden, Samala Harris, and
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 11: the rest of them. Shared Brown, they mortgage the future.
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 11: We've got our national debt at thirty nine billion dollars,
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 11: so it suddenly makes sense, right that they're going to
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: take their base of operations, their headquarters, mortgage that as well.
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 11: It's just more example of the you know, irresponsible policies
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 11: of that party. But yeah, the hundreds of millions of
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 11: dollars are going to get spent in this race. On
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 11: the airways. You know, the ads are already fired up.
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 11: The mail will will be following in short order. The
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 11: yard signs will start growing as the days get shorter
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 11: and the air g it's a little cooler. But the
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 11: thing that cuts through all that noise and what we
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 11: spend so much time doing, Brian, and is what you know,
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 11: sort of my plea this morning folks start thinking about
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 11: what they can do to make a difference here is
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 11: get out there and knock some doors. Talk to friends
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 11: and neighbors about what's really at stake in this election.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 11: Especially your conservative libertarian listeners, Brian, who know they have
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 11: the facts, they know shared Brown's record, they know what
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 11: John Houston has done in his twenty months in Washington,
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 11: d C. As our senator. There's no better contrast no
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 11: better difference. But if we're going to cut through that noise,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 11: cut through those ads, it's going to take people talking
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 11: to people and encouraging the friends and neighbors to do
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: the right thing and get out and vote this November.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 2: Let's pause from them. We're gonna bring Donovan and Eiel
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: back and talk a little bit more about days of action,
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: what we can do. I also want to get your
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: thoughts in comments, because I think it's appropriate at this
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 2: point anybody who has an opportunity to do so, and
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: there will be to pose some questions to Shared Brown
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  Speaker 2: about the DSA winging of the party and where he
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: is on that, because they've we've got serious divisions within
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  Speaker 2: their party. The Democrats do bring Donovan back the seven
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  Speaker 2: getting involved with so they'll help you do the door
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  Speaker 2: knocking and the days of action we'll talk about here
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  Speaker 2: AFP action dot com. But Donovan, before we move away
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  Speaker 2: from the specific John Howston Shared Brown rays. It seems
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  Speaker 2: to me that because there's a lot of I call
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  Speaker 2: it infighting, call it division, whatever, there doesn't seem to
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  Speaker 2: be a whole lot of agreement within the Democratic Party
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: about how far left they want to go. Good chunk
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  Speaker 2: of them, we're going that DSA route. But the DSA
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  Speaker 2: platform calls for, you know, eliminating the United States Senate,
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  Speaker 2: abolishing immigrations and customs enforcement, replacing branches of government, implementing
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  Speaker 2: a thirty two hour workweek, and taxation and spending issues,
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  Speaker 2: and public ownership of you know, that's communism right there,
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  Speaker 2: public ownership of the means of production, blanket amnesty for
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  Speaker 2: illegal immigrants, ending border enforcements and deportations, medicare for all.
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  Speaker 2: These are all platforms of the DSA, and a lot
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  Speaker 2: of them are running proudly on that. But like with
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  Speaker 2: all things politics, some Republicans had a delicate, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a tough time dealing with the Tea Party wing, and
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 2: they got a little freaked out about that when the
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  Speaker 2: Tea Party was popular. Is this an opportunity to test
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  Speaker 2: Shared Brown in his where he is on the Democrats
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  Speaker 2: side of the spectrum, Maybe to the Republican side advantage.
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  Speaker 11: Oh absolutely, and I mean one thing for sure. Right
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  Speaker 11: if Shared Brown was in the US Senate when we
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  Speaker 11: had the opportunity to vote for the Working Family Tax,
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  Speaker 11: because he would have voted with the Democrats when the
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  Speaker 11: government shutdown was going on last fall led by Chuck Schumer,
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  Speaker 11: Hassim Jeffries, absolutely, Shared Brown would have stood in line
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  Speaker 11: with his colleagues and peers in the Democrat Party voted
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  Speaker 11: against opening the federal government up. While Shared Brown is
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  Speaker 11: a political chameleon, he's mastered the art of telling people
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  Speaker 11: one thing and doing another. The reality is he will
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  Speaker 11: vote one hundred percent of the time because he has
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  Speaker 11: and we have a thirty plus year record of this
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  Speaker 11: for a fact, he will vote nearly one hundred percent
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  Speaker 11: of the time with his party. And as the DSA
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  Speaker 11: the Socialists begin to truly take over what started as
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 11: a small enclaves in New England right with Bernie Sanders
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  Speaker 11: and Elizabeth Warren has become a full blown landslide towards
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  Speaker 11: the extreme left. And while Shared Brown is smart enough
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  Speaker 11: to not put those kinds of posts on his social media,
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 11: you best believe that if he gets elected, those are
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  Speaker 11: the policies he will be voting for because he always
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  Speaker 11: has voted for them, And so that's what's really at
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 11: stake here is you have a particular effective political chameleon
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  Speaker 11: trying to sneak his way back into the US Senate
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  Speaker 11: seat from Ohio, who will join in the dismantling of
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  Speaker 11: the future of this country by the Democratic Socialists of America.
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  Speaker 11: Sounds doomday, it sounds extreme, but it's the reality, and
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  Speaker 11: there's the record.
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  Speaker 5: To show it.
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  Speaker 2: I don't disagree with your analysis on that. I guess
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  Speaker 2: the question that i'd have to ask him is, let's
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  Speaker 2: walk through the DSA platform. If this comes up as
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  Speaker 2: a piece of legislation, are you going to be voting
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  Speaker 2: for it? Yes? Or no? Now he's going to force
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  Speaker 2: him to lie. Right. If you say he would ultimately
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  Speaker 2: vote with his party to advance these well constitutionally undermining
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  Speaker 2: pieces of agenda on the DSA platform, then I would
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  Speaker 2: at least say, at least you've got him locked into
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 2: a lie. You know, it's like Fauci testifying today. You've
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 2: got him locked into lies. Question becomes what you make
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 2: of it in the aftermath. But I'd like to hear
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  Speaker 2: what he has to say, because the other fundamental problem
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  Speaker 2: I have with the DSA platform is Donovan. How in
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  Speaker 2: God's name can any politician who embraces that platform or
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  Speaker 2: even part of it, hold up his or her hand
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  Speaker 2: and swear an oath to the Constitution of the United
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  Speaker 2: States when the very platform that they run on is
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  Speaker 2: to eliminate the Constitution. It's quite a conundrum. This is an
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  Speaker 2: impossible conundrum. I guess the only workaround and here let
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  Speaker 2: me bounce this off you, because the only work around
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  Speaker 2: it says I was a DSA person. This is what
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  Speaker 2: I wanted. Yeah, I want to undermine the Constitution. I want,
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  Speaker 2: like phoenix from the ashes, something new and better and
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 2: socialists or communists to arise from the ashes. You can
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 2: change the Constitution. There's a mechanism in the Constitution, or mechanisms,
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  Speaker 2: but it's a huge row to ho and it requires
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  Speaker 2: the agreement of a whole bunch of people who, under
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  Speaker 2: no circumstances will embrace your undermining left wing community or
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  Speaker 2: constitutional ending philosophy. So you either do it by way
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 2: of revolution, or you do it the way the Constitution
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  Speaker 2: has and you run no hope of even getting your
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  Speaker 2: agenda advance. So where are we on.
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  Speaker 11: That well, I think we will be found from our
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  Speaker 11: friends on the left right. And actually Thomas sol wrote
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  Speaker 11: about this years ago in a Constant Divisions Right. These
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  Speaker 11: the progressive left and many of the people who support them,
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 11: share an unconstrained view of the world right that while
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 11: these documents exist, their living, breathing documents that we can
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  Speaker 11: just change right or totally ignore. And I think that's
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 11: part of the dssay's mode of operations here is they
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 11: will they will ignore those things, and they will say
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  Speaker 11: we will go and do what we want to do.
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 11: It's why we find ourselves in the situation we find
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 11: ourselves in right now, because you know, the Obama administration
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 11: did a lot of that right throughout the years, dismantling
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  Speaker 11: key institutions within our federal government, forms and processes that
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 11: help protect you know, folks, you know the minority majority
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 11: and minority dynamics we have in the country. The antidote
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 11: to this problem is getting back to our foundational principles
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 11: as the nation, leaning on the Constitution of Decoration of Independence,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 11: is you know, the way forward and out of the
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  Speaker 11: situation we find ourselves in. But you know, if you
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  Speaker 11: think the d s A and and folks like Shared Brown,
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  Speaker 11: you know, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, the rest of them
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  Speaker 11: are going to follow that way. Abdul l Sied in
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  Speaker 11: Michigan is very like you're going to be the nominee.
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  Speaker 11: There are gonna are gonna play by the rules and
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  Speaker 11: and and adhere to the way our founding fallows intended
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  Speaker 11: for this nation to be run. It's it's not going
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  Speaker 11: to happen. It's it's it's a real dire situation.
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  Speaker 2: It's dire and most notably dire when if you give
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  Speaker 2: into the understanding that the one thing that they certainly
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: could accomplish is packing the Supreme Court with a bunch
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  Speaker 2: of liberals who, well, the Constitution is so living and
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  Speaker 2: breathing that we can ignore it completely.
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  Speaker 11: Uh yep, that's not off the table either, Briand I mean,
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  Speaker 11: they're they're they're real.
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  Speaker 5: You know.
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  Speaker 11: One of the things we hear out at the doors
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  Speaker 11: as well while we're talking to folks is they are
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  Speaker 11: they are tired of the ever present this fuck dysfunction
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  Speaker 11: in Washington, d C. And what I think you would
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  Speaker 11: find voters willing to to, you know, be open to
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 11: our folks who want to make extreme changes to the
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 11: way that our government works, rather than incentivizing lawmakers to
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  Speaker 11: to do the hard work of reaching consensus, do the
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 11: hard work of you know, of putting government where it belongs,
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  Speaker 11: but also having the restraint and self disciplined to keep
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  Speaker 11: government out of other people's lots, you know, people's lives
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: where it doesn't belong. So the idea of expanding to
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  Speaker 11: those right is right, I think. You know, our friends
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 11: on the left have done a very good job of
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 11: packaging as appealing solutions to the problems, when the real
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 11: solution to these problems are keeping government constrained in the
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 11: ways that it to the areas that should be focused on.
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 11: And expanding the Supreme Court would be a probably not
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 11: good idea for the future of our country.
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  Speaker 2: Terrible idea. Donaldll What are we dealing with in terms
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  Speaker 2: of days of action before we part company this morning?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah, well, it's speaking out and get people out to
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  Speaker 11: the right. We've got the beautiful weather on tap here.
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  Speaker 11: We're going to be not launching doors around the state.
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  Speaker 11: We were out there knocking doors every day. We're almost
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  Speaker 11: at four thousand. We'll eclipse that before the end of
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  Speaker 11: this week. But this Saturday and Saturday after we're calling
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  Speaker 11: half a day, we'll take it. But help us get
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  Speaker 11: million Ohiolans who need to be reminded to get out
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  Speaker 11: and helping make a difference to swing the you know what,
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  Speaker 2: sitting on the bench after having been appointed by Governor
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  Speaker 2: Mike DeWine last year. And welcome back to the fifty
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  Speaker 2: pleasure to have you on the program today.
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  Speaker 13: Thank you so much for having me back. I really
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  Speaker 13: appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'll just ask Joe if you wouldn't mind adding
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  Speaker 2: your website the reelection website. Keep Judge Leah dinkclocker dot
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  Speaker 2: KC dot iHeart dot com to help my listeners find
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  Speaker 2: it if they can't remember that. You were an assistant
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  Speaker 2: Hamilton County Proskying you attorney for about thirteen years and
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  Speaker 2: you've been sitting on the bench and you've been presiding
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  Speaker 2: over a variety of different matters. My understanding is your
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  Speaker 2: murder trials, rape, Charles Filonius, assault. We could go on,
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  Speaker 2: but how has your time on the bench been been
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  Speaker 2: and what have you learned since you've been at this
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  Speaker 2: job now for well quite some time.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, no, sure, it's been great. Like you said, I
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  Speaker 13: got a point at last March. So I've been on
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  Speaker 13: the bench for almost a year and a half now
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  Speaker 13: and we've been busy. Like you said, within the first
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  Speaker 13: three weeks of taking the bench, I did a murder trial.
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  Speaker 13: We've done rape plenty sassault of a police officer, medical
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  Speaker 13: malpractice with a multimillion dollar verdict, another wrongful death, workers
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  Speaker 13: compensation you know, sailor to comply, But you know I'm
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 13: here to work. Everyone deserves their day in court and
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 13: that's why I'm here. And you know, everyone that comes
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  Speaker 13: in front of me. I treat with dignity and respect
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  Speaker 13: because that's what they deserve. And you know what I've
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  Speaker 13: learned is I knew this was a tough job, but
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 13: it should be a tough job because every decision that
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  Speaker 13: I make affects someone's life, whether it's criminal or civil.
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  Speaker 13: And so but I've learned, you know, I got I know,
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  Speaker 13: I'm doing what I think is best and then I
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 13: move on. But it's been a very rewarding job. And
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 13: like I, like you touched on earlier, I'm doing what
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  Speaker 13: I can do every day to help keep this community safe.
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  Speaker 13: That's my job and it's why I'm here to do
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  Speaker 13: this job. And hoping that I can keep doing this
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  Speaker 13: come November.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and I guess my big problem and I still
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  Speaker 2: struggle to appreciate how anybody could embrace the ideology that
• 1:42:49
  Speaker 2: punishment is somehow bad. It's part of the criminal justice system.
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  Speaker 2: It's one of the reasons we have one, you know,
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  Speaker 2: one of the ideas of criminal justice the race originally
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  Speaker 2: was the well, if we get them in prison and
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: can rehabilitate him, well, he can laugh at that as
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  Speaker 2: a suggestion, but punishment as a warning, as a cautionary
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  Speaker 2: tale to the rest of society. Don't do what that
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  Speaker 2: guy does, because under law, you are going to be
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 2: put in jail for a period of time determined by
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: the judge. And that should serve as an example, any
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  Speaker 2: warning to all of those out there who might otherwise
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: go down that road not to do it. If you
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 2: get rid of the punishment component, people commit more crime.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, didn't we learn. I mean, if we look
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  Speaker 2: at the experiment California has been engaged in for this long,
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 2: look what happened there. You decriminalize theft under nine hundred
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 2: and fifty bucks, guess what people going in and steal
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 2: nine hundred and forty nine dollars and ninety nine cents
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  Speaker 2: worth of stuff?
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  Speaker 13: Right? Well, and like the under the law, you know,
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  Speaker 13: I took a note to follow law, and I take
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 13: that seriously. And under the law, the purposes of felony
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 13: sentencing are, like you said, to protect the public, punish
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 13: the offender, and to promote effective rehabilitation. So when I
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 13: craft my sentences, I have to keep those purposes in mind,
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  Speaker 13: and that's what I do every day.
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  Speaker 2: Is there a division, and I don't want you to
• 1:44:05
  Speaker 2: name names, but I think I can think of a
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  Speaker 2: couple of names that immediately come to mind that don't
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  Speaker 2: seem to be interested in punishment whatsoever, and actually don't
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: even believe in the concept of bonds. But do you
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 2: sense a division within the Hamilton County judiciary that there
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 2: are some who are of this modern I'll call it woke,
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 2: that's my label, not yours mindset, that we punishment is
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  Speaker 2: bad and we don't want to give juveniles any form
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  Speaker 2: of record because it's gonna work, you know, stay with
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: them for the rest of their lives. But if you
• 1:44:34
  Speaker 2: don't punish juveniles, they become adult criminals. So is there
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: a division within the judiciary along those lines that I'm
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 2: kind of laying out here.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, So I'm obviously I'm gonna be careful, but you
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  Speaker 13: have to be I can only can Yeah, no, I
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 13: can only controls, And I will tell you because of
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 13: my I know, I've only been here a year and
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 13: a half, but I've been in a system in this courthouse,
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 13: you know, for fourteen years now. I have chosen to
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 13: do my own bonds on felonies of the first degree
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 13: and second degree, so the most serious felonies, and I
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 13: review all my bonds as well, but I thought it
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 13: was necessary to do that so that if the appropriate
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 13: bonds are set. So there's just my example of one
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 13: example of what I do and to stay in line.
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  Speaker 13: Does that makes sense?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: It does remind my listeners what considerations you take when
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 2: you when you're looking at a bond hearing. I mean,
• 1:45:31
  Speaker 2: recidivism is one of them, right, because if you have
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: someone who ends up in front of the criminal justices
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 2: from time and time again, clearly they haven't gotten the message.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 2: So that's one element you look at, isn't it. What
• 1:45:40
  Speaker 2: are some others?
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  Speaker 12: Yeah?
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  Speaker 13: Sure, yeah, you look at the criminal history, you look
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 13: at the nature and the circumstances of the charges.
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  Speaker 5: You know, with a.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 13: Firearm involved, what's the weight of the evidence against the defendant.
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 13: You do take into consideration, you know, the defendants situation,
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 13: the financial situation, employment, things like that. But also you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 13: have to take into consideration the safety of the community
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 13: and so when you have a violent felony that involves
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 13: a firearm or you know, you're also take into consideration
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 13: as a person on probation, parole, any you know, post
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 13: release control on anything like that. Those are things under
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 13: the law that you have to consider when setting bond,
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 13: And that's what I do when I decide what the
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 13: appropriate bond is.
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: Well, and I think about bond hearings, and I understand
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 2: the emotional argument, Well, this person has not been convicted
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 2: beyond a reasonable doubt of the crime that they're standing
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: in front of the judge of the bond hearing for.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 2: So there's been no conviction. How is it that you
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: can require them to pony up some cash before they've
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: been convicted. But isn't that sort of like an injunction
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 2: hearing when you're trying to weigh the evidence and is
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 2: the person seeking an injunction likely to succeed on the
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 2: merits under the law. It's sort of an advanced determination
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: of what you're or you're going to decide at the end.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: But if there's an overwhelming preponderance of evidence which suggests
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: this party is going to win, that's going to serve
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: to allow for an injunction to move forward. Do you
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: look at the weight of the criminal evidence when you're
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: doing a bond hearing along those same lines or is
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: this some other parallel you can better draw from me,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 2: am I listening audience.
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  Speaker 13: Yeah, No, I think that was a good comparison. One
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  Speaker 13: of the factors is the weight of the evidence and
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 13: if the defendants identity can be confirmed. So you know,
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  Speaker 13: that's why when I conduct my bond hearings, obviously the
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 13: State of Ohio is there, the defense attorneys, I listen
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 13: to everything, so every whatever information they're willing to give me.
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  Speaker 13: You know, that's what I go off of, and I,
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  Speaker 13: like I said, I still go back to I always
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 13: have to consider the safety of the community, and that involves,
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 13: like you mentioned, the criminal history, which also have they
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 13: appeared for court? Do they have failure to compere as
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 13: kpist history, all those things, because I need to ensure
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 13: that I'm meeting all those elements. But the community is
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 13: safe while we're pending the case, and that he's there.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 13: We're going to get this case in court so that
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 13: everyone gets justice, you know, the police officers involved, victims involved,
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 13: and the defendant.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and those seem to me to be comparable factors.
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  Speaker 2: Never said on the bench myself, but I imagine if
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 2: you are reviewing a plea deal, if the prosecutor's office
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 2: comes to you and the defendant comes to you and
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: they say, well, we've agreed to the following plea deal
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 2: they're willing to accept XYZ in terms of punishment, and
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: the prosecutor's office agrees to that satisfactory, do you do
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 2: a similar analysis because I can see just in my
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: mind not yours again my words. I don't want to
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: impose anything on you my listeners, thinking that these are
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: your words. But if you have a quote unquote woke
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 2: prosecutor who wants to be lenient on this poor devil
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 2: who's in front of him, and of course the defense
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: attorney is going to want any sweetheart plea deal that
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: he can grab for his client. If they come to
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 2: you with something that this does not seem right. Probation
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 2: for two years for this particular crime is inadequate. Do
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: you do this similar analysis analysis on that and whether
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: you agree to accept accept it or not?
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  Speaker 13: Yes, So obviously I consider, Uh, you know, I want
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 13: to know what what are the facts of the case,
• 1:49:12
  Speaker 13: but they and history, But I also I want to
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 13: know what if it's what the police officers involved, what
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 13: is there? I want their input, the victim, Are they
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 13: okay with this plea? What's their input? And I always
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 13: ask for that before I decide if I'm going to
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 13: go along with the plea. So yeah, it's the same,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 13: it's a similar analysis. But for me, and obviously I
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 13: listen to anything to the defense attorneys tell me as well
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 13: about the descendant that I should know, absolutely, but I
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 13: really need to know if the officer and the victim
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 13: are what their input is as far as the plea
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 13: as well.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well, that's all sounding good news from my standpoint,
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 2: and I'm sure my listeners agree with that, considering the
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 2: problems that we believe we are faced with here in
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: Hamilton County generally speaking. Now, in your experience on the bench,
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 2: have you ever rejected a plea deal along those lines.
• 1:50:06
  Speaker 13: I'm trying to I don't know if I have yet,
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 13: but you know it's Keith by Keith.
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, sure one does.
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 13: Something does not stand out at this point, but I
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 13: you know, I've been on the other side as a
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 13: prosecutor where I guess I don't. I don't know if
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 13: one has been rejected before, probably sometime in my life.
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 13: But nothing stands out at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Fair enough, And I mean to put you on the
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 2: spot just kind of wondering how that has gone.
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  Speaker 13: No, I just yeah, no, thank you, all right.
• 1:50:36
  Speaker 2: Now, prior to being appointed to the bench. You served
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 2: in the juvenile, municipal and felony divisions, you know, its prosecutor.
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 2: I just kind of want to get your take on
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: something that I asked. I try to ask judges and
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 2: every member of law enforcement that comes in, we've got
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: a problem with juveniles these days. If you haven't noticed, you,
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 2: if you had to trace a particular problem, why are
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: out juveniles out there committing It seems to be more
• 1:50:59
  Speaker 2: more violent times, but committing so much crime out there.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 2: I'm of the mindset it is the deterioration of the
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: nuclear family that there's apparently no one at home, you know,
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: training them, teaching them morals, ethics and values. You of
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 2: course can't pick that up in a public education, but
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 2: if you had to put your thumb on some reason
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: why juveniles have gone off the rails, you know, in
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: a broadbrush approach. Have you learned anything from your time
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 2: as a Hamlin County prosecutor as well as judge?
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 13: Yeah? Sure so. Like you said, I started off my
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 13: career as a prosecutor as an as an assistant attorney
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 13: in the juvenau division, and then I end it as
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 13: a supervisor in the juvenile division. And I think you're right,
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 13: I think it. You know it goes back to the home.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, a lot of society's problems would be
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: solved if you know there was mom and dad at home. There.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: I am again, Judge Leyah denk a Locker. I am
• 1:51:54
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  Speaker 2: I mean, we got some tough races here and we
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: could use some good jurists. She is demonstrably a great one.
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: We've got a year and a half of her being
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 2: on the bench. You just heard her theories and thoughts
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: on the criminal justice system. So I've got no fault whatsoever.
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 2: And Lord knows we need some some good judges in
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  Speaker 13: Thank you so much. Thank you for having me again.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 13: I have my website this time, so thank you for
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 13: putting it out there. Thank you so much for your support.
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  Speaker 13: I truly appreciate it.
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  Speaker 2: I wish it.
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  Speaker 13: Yes, I hope to be back sometime soon.
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  Speaker 2: Well, for all the residents in Hamilton County, I wish
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: you all the best and all the success in the world.
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: In November.
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• 1:52:56
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  Speaker 2: your honor. I'm trying to see whether you do of
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: a tan or not. You were in Italy correct for
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: your vacation.
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  Speaker 4: I was in northern Italy and Switzerland right at the
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 4: Italian Swiss border and let me just stop and thank
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 4: Chuck for that lovely sensible for a change introduction.
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  Speaker 3: I did get a lot of color.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know if it shows on the on the zoom,
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  Speaker 4: and my face is covered with makeup, so that may
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  Speaker 4: maybe altering the appearance a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you got to do that when you're on television
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 2: all the time. And I do get the benefit of
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: seeing Judge Enna Palatano through zoom conference call, which is
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 2: great for me, and I did. You can't read it,
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: and I forgot about that because of the cutoff level.
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: I wore this T shirt. Normally I don't have a
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 2: T shirt on, but I wore this just for you.
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 2: It says libertarians plotting to take over the world and
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: leave you alone.
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  Speaker 3: Nicely put.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I did radio with my friend and former
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 4: colleague Brian Kilmead three hours a day for about three
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 4: or four years, and one of our guests always put
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 4: makeup on for radio. It will not surprise you, eraldo Rivera.
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  Speaker 2: You know, if you'd given me a couple of seconds
• 1:54:42
  Speaker 2: to think about that, I probably could have guessed that
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 2: as number one, who in the hell would do that?
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: A guy like Roaldo Rivera. Yeah right, Well.
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  Speaker 3: You never know when a camera is going to show up.
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah right, what a windowless radio studio.
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  Speaker 2: But you know what, real quick here before we dive
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 2: into the topics the legal conversation, I'm having fun going
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 2: off topic here, but that reminds me of a story
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 2: my grandmother, my late grandmother told me and my mom's
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: mom she would always put makeup on even if she
• 1:55:09
  Speaker 2: was going out, a lipstick on, even if she was
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: going out in the yard to do yard work. And
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 2: I believe it was my mom, and I asked, well,
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: why do you bother putting lipstick on if you're just
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: gonna go out in the yard and do some yard work.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: And sure comment was something along the lines of, well
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: you never know who you're gonna run into, So she's right. Anyhow,
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 2: pivoting over, did you have any interest in that story
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 2: I sent you? I was just explaining to my listening
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 2: audience what happened to this Samuel Tunni guy at the
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: Atlanta airport when he came back from overseas. He had
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 2: a special cell phone, and they demanded he turned over
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: the phone and also unlock it. He was not subject
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: to his search for and probable cause anything like that.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: But the Border and Customs officials said, give us the
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: pass code, unlock the phone. Apparently he was not read right,
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: at least according to his lawyers, he wasn't. He asked
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 2: for an attorney, he was denied the opportunity to speak
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: with one. They told him he was obligated to give
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 2: it to him. So he gives them a pass and
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: when he types in the password, it doesn't open the
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 2: phone up. It literally deletes the entire contents of the phone.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: And so he's being prosecuted now, and there's a motion
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 2: to suppress evidence have been filed on is by his
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 2: lawyers say, listen, you had no right to take him
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 2: the first place, so whatever was on there, you wouldn't
• 1:56:18
  Speaker 2: have been able to get it would have been subject
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 2: to suppression anyway. So this has got to be thrown out.
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 2: But they're prosecuting him under a federal statute that makes
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 2: it unlawful to knowingly destroy or damage property to prevent
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 2: authorities from seizing it. And of course he's pleaded not
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 2: guilty of that, and everyone who's been interviewed that I
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 2: can find on this, so this is a very unique
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 2: and we aren't even aware of someone being prosecuted along
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 2: these lines under this federal statute. But one of the
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 2: arguments that's being made is he didn't enjoy the Fourth
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 2: Amendment right to be free of unreasonable searches and seizures
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 2: because when they grabbed the phone from them, he wasn't
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 2: in the United States yet.
• 1:56:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, even though he was in the middle of Atlanta, Georgia.
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 2: Right that. Yeah, I think they ultimately moved it. That
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 2: was Yeah, that's the argument apparently being right.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 4: Mean, the argument is that these airports on the other
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: side of the Customs and Border Patrol is not the
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 4: United States.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 3: That is a legal fiction.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 4: I agree with your other guests who said, hey, we've
• 1:57:15
  Speaker 4: never heard of this, But of course, in my view,
• 1:57:18
  Speaker 4: because the Fourth Amendment says the right of the people
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 4: to be secure in their person's houses, papers and effects, etc. Etcetera,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 4: shall not be violated except by a warrant. The right
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: of the people doesn't say the right of the Americans.
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: It doesn't say the American people, It doesn't say where
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: they have to be. It just says the right of
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 4: the people. It is clear he had a Fourth Amendment right.
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: It is clear they had no right to this without
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 4: a warrant. Now they didn't have a warrant. I don't
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 4: think they knew who he was. They just picked them
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 4: out in line, here's the law. If they demand your
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 4: mobile devices, you should give it to them because they'll
• 1:57:55
  Speaker 4: take it from you by violence. You have no no
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: obligation to give them the pass code, absolutely none. That's
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: their problem to figure out how to get into it.
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know that this guy was just trying to
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: protect his personal private information.
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 3: From a thief.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: The government was a thief. The government stole his phone
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 4: from him. If they had a search warrant, they're not
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 4: a thief. But without a search warrant, they're a common
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: thief and should be prosecuted for it.
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well, it's an operating system that is not your
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 2: normal operating system people out there, and I heard I never.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: Heard of this operating system.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 2: By the way, I had not either, And I'm I
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 2: going to find it really quick here because some people
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: make curious about being curious about. It's Graphene gr a
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 2: pH e and e OS described as a custom Android
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 2: operating system that is used in lieu of the one
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: that your phone actually came in. You can jail break
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: a phone and program it with your own operating system.
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: My son's done that. He knows that of program computer
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 2: and stuff, so yeah, it's out there. It's I just thought,
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 2: you know, a privacy guy like me who is a
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: firm belief in the Constitution and doesn't think, I don't
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 2: like the idea of the government rifling through my personal
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 2: affects and papers, even though they'd find them very boring.
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 2: I thought it was kind of a neat feature, you know,
• 1:59:09
  Speaker 2: four digits boom, the entire thing disappears into the ether.
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 2: I I thought that was a cord of comical element
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: because I didn't know it existed either.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 4: I mean, the statute under which he's being prosecuted, and
• 1:59:20
  Speaker 4: I got to tell you, I was unfamiliar with the
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 4: statute presumes the government had a legal right to that
• 1:59:27
  Speaker 4: which was erased. They would not be able to justify
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 4: what their legal right was because they just picked him.
• 1:59:34
  Speaker 12: Out at random.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 2: Perfect. That's how I thought.
• 1:59:38
  Speaker 4: And for anybody, for anybody who says the government is
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: presumed right, this could happen to you. Oh, I know,
• 1:59:46
  Speaker 4: this could happen to anybody when the government interferes with
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 4: a fundamental liberty, especially when articulated in the Constitution, the
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: government is not presumed to be correct. It's presumed to
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 4: be incorrect. It is the burden of the government to
• 2:00:00
  Speaker 4: prove why and how and what lawful basis it has
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: for doing.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 3: What it's doing.
• 2:00:06
  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. See, I knew you have a clear
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 2: headed opinion and analysis of that one. That's why I
• 2:00:13
  Speaker 2: brought it up. Because this is the first time this
• 2:00:14
  Speaker 2: has happened in terms of this legal theory, and so
• 2:00:17
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine what happened more and more down
• 2:00:19
  Speaker 2: the road, unless, of course, the federal court that tearing
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 2: this puts the hammer down suppresses the evidence a way
• 2:00:23
  Speaker 2: of that as a precedent into the future. So pivoting
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 2: over the conflict of interest that you brought up in
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 2: your column, why the Blanche nomination should be rejected, it
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 2: comes out tonight at midnight. I'm fortunate to get an
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 2: earlier company talking about debut Attorney Tom Blanche. You say
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 2: isn't qualified under a sort of it's a conflict of
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 2: interest argument, sir, it's.
• 2:00:44
  Speaker 3: Conflict of interest.
• 2:00:45
  Speaker 4: He bows to the whims of the president when the
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 4: rule of law indicates the opposite. He authorized the president
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 4: to murder people on the High Seas rather than arrest
• 2:00:59
  Speaker 4: them and charged them with drug dealing. There's no legal
• 2:01:03
  Speaker 4: basis for that whatsoever, but that's what his boss told
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 4: him to do, so he did it. That's not the
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 4: mentality you want as the attorney general. Moreover, he orchestrated
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 4: the one point seven to seven six billion dollars swindle
• 2:01:19
  Speaker 4: of federal tax funds to create a slush fund for
• 2:01:23
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump to give to his friends, and he refuses
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 4: to rescind it, even though there's no lawful basis for
• 2:01:32
  Speaker 4: it whatsoever. Federal judge found that the lawsuit in which
• 2:01:36
  Speaker 4: Trump sued the IRS was not a real lawsuit because
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 4: the lawyers for the IRS and the lawyers for the
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: DOJ work for the plaintiff and all wanted the same
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 4: thing to please the plaintiff. That's not a real lawsuit, okay.
• 2:01:49
  Speaker 2: And that reminded me of controversies that came up. I
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  Speaker 2: believe it was the Obama administration. It might have been
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  Speaker 2: the Biden administration, but I think we're going back to
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  Speaker 2: the Obama administration. You have a federal lawsuit, and of
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  Speaker 2: course you get the Department of Justice on the government
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  Speaker 2: side defending against the allegations from the plane off side.
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  Speaker 2: An environmental group comes in and says, Nimby or green
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  Speaker 2: or carbon or whatever needs us have this project stop.
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  Speaker 2: And of course that's right in that administration's wheelhouse. That
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  Speaker 2: is a position that they're advocating for by way of legislation,
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  Speaker 2: changes in our whatever. But the Department of Justice is
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  Speaker 2: there to defend the laws that are on the books
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  Speaker 2: and apparently allow this to move forward. If they are
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  Speaker 2: aligned from a philosophical basis on the plaintiff side that's
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  Speaker 2: seeking this remedy to stop this project from going forward
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  Speaker 2: on some environmental reason, they're inclined to go ahead and
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  Speaker 2: cave not provide a strong defense, sort of, half asked.
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  Speaker 3: I agreed.
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  Speaker 4: If that happened several times in the Biden administration, when
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  Speaker 4: it happened before the Supreme Court, the Supreme Court said,
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  Speaker 4: forget about it. We will appoint lawyers to defend the
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  Speaker 4: statue if the DOJ won't do the same. I don't
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  Speaker 4: think that has happened yet under the Trump administration. But
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  Speaker 4: that's the remedy for this.
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  Speaker 3: I get it.
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  Speaker 4: When the DOJ thinks a statute is unconstitutional, that's not
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  Speaker 4: its job to think that way. But if it does,
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  Speaker 4: it's time for private counsel to commit and become a
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  Speaker 4: special Attorney General.
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  Speaker 2: So, under the circumstances you're referring to with Blands relative
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  Speaker 2: to this IRS lawsuit.
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  Speaker 4: The case should not have been dealt with while Trump
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: was in the White House. The case should have been
• 2:03:31
  Speaker 4: dealt with after Trump left the White House, when there
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  Speaker 4: was real adversity, when he didn't control the lawyers on.
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  Speaker 3: The other side.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been the appropriate remedy would have been
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  Speaker 4: dismissal without prejudice, and then Trump's lawyers could revive it
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  Speaker 4: after He's no longer.
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  Speaker 3: In the White House.
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  Speaker 4: He had a legitimate ripe, very legitimate right. An IRS
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  Speaker 4: employee stole his tax returns and gave them to the
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  Speaker 4: New York Times with four hundred thousand other tax returns.
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  Speaker 4: That guy went to jail. Trump has a very legitimate
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 4: had because he blew it, had a very legitimate gripe.
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  Speaker 4: He doesn't have that gripe anymore because of the avaricious
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  Speaker 4: way that he and Todd blanche went about seeking a remedy.
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  Speaker 2: Now, would this conduct, as you've outlined it so well
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  Speaker 2: in the op ed piece, why the Blantchs nomination should rejected.
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  Speaker 2: Would this potentially subject plans to some sort of action
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  Speaker 2: by the Supreme Court in state where he's licensed?
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  Speaker 4: Is this he He has about five or six, including
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  Speaker 4: one signed by one hundred and eleven retired judges, ethics
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  Speaker 4: complaints being investigated by the New York City and New
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  Speaker 4: York State Bar Association. My prediction is he'll be disbarred,
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  Speaker 4: whether he's the Attorney general or not. In fact that
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 4: he is the attorney general. If the Republicans do cave
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  Speaker 4: on this and give Trump what he wants, that's even
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  Speaker 4: more of an incentive for the New York authorities to
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 4: disbar him. Then we got a real conundrum. An attorney
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 4: general who's disbarred. We only had one attorney general this
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 4: part in the modern era, but he was this part
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  Speaker 4: after he left office.
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  Speaker 3: John Mitchell, how about that?
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  Speaker 2: All right? Very quickly, since doctor Fauchi's queuing up his
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  Speaker 2: testamenty today, he's been pardoned by Joe Biden. So therefore anything,
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  Speaker 2: he's been pardoned for all of his actions as he
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  Speaker 2: served in his capacity as you know, lord and master
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  Speaker 2: over our futures, and previously, some may argue, and I
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  Speaker 2: think effectively so lied to Congress, so he's freed of
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  Speaker 2: any prosecution from that. So they set him down today
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  Speaker 2: and go back over this evidence, along with the documents
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  Speaker 2: that they have in his own words and his own diary,
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  Speaker 2: which pretty much provides proof that he did perjure himself.
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  Speaker 2: Any possibility remains that he could assert his Fifth Amendment
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  Speaker 2: right to be free of self incrimination because I understand it.
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  Speaker 12: No.
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  Speaker 4: The short answer is no. When you accept a pardon,
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  Speaker 4: believe it or not, you can reject a pardon. I
• 2:05:50
  Speaker 4: never heard of anybody rejecting one.
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  Speaker 1: But when you.
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  Speaker 4: Accept the pardon, you wittingly or unwittingly, say goodbye to
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  Speaker 4: your Fifth Amendment rights on the subject matter of the pardon, which,
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 4: in his case, because it wasn't one crime, pardon was
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 4: everything he did in his life up to the date
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 4: of the pardon, which is the date of Donald Trump's
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  Speaker 4: inauguration January twentyeth, twenty twenty five. The pardon came out
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  Speaker 4: that morning. He has no Fifth Amendment rights whatsoever. If
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  Speaker 4: he doesn't answer, they'll go across the street to the
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  Speaker 4: Federal District Court and get an order requiring him to answer,
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  Speaker 4: Otherwise he'll be incarcerated until he answers.
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  Speaker 2: And the theory that was going through my mind, although I
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  Speaker 2: think I've rejected it based upon further analysis that I did.
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  Speaker 2: If there is a potential some say the auto pen
• 2:06:40
  Speaker 2: should be rejected as a pardon, and if it was
• 2:06:42
  Speaker 2: an autopen that he doesn't even get a pardon that's
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 2: going to be undone. If there's some argument legally that
• 2:06:47
  Speaker 2: the pardon could be undone in some legal action down
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  Speaker 2: the road, that sucks and it sucks to be him
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  Speaker 2: time because he can't use that potential to assert his
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  Speaker 2: Fifth Amendment.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 2: Wait a second, correct?
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  Speaker 3: Correct?
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  Speaker 4: Correct, So if he before Senator Paul and he's actually
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 4: there now, but in a couple of minutes admits to
• 2:07:09
  Speaker 4: a crime, he can't be prosecuted for it unless somehow
• 2:07:12
  Speaker 4: the pardon is undone. No pardon has ever been undone
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 4: at the federal level. Partons have been undone at the
• 2:07:17
  Speaker 4: state level, but not at the federal level. So chances
• 2:07:20
  Speaker 4: of that are very slim.
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  Speaker 2: And he's currently not facing any state proceedings, although I
• 2:07:24
  Speaker 2: imagine there is some criminal theory out there that someone
• 2:07:27
  Speaker 2: might assert against him on a state level.
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  Speaker 3: He's also exposed to civiliability.
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  Speaker 4: Remember if he admits to a crime, he loses his
• 2:07:35
  Speaker 4: immunity for the consequences of that crime. If a person
• 2:07:40
  Speaker 4: is harmed because criminal behavior by a government official is
• 2:07:43
  Speaker 4: not subject to immunity.
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  Speaker 2: Well that may ultimately be the pound of flesh that
• 2:07:48
  Speaker 2: everyone seems the one to exact that at Anthony Fauci
• 2:07:51
  Speaker 2: for lying to us and causing so much damage through
• 2:07:54
  Speaker 2: his lies and his actions. Maybe judging Baltano, it's adging
• 2:07:59
  Speaker 2: judging freedom of who you on to be speaking with today,
• 2:08:01
  Speaker 2: and I encourage.
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  Speaker 4: You, Colonel Douglas McGregor, Pepe escopar in the great Phil
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  Speaker 4: Geralde some of my heavy hitters and looking forward to it.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you, Brian, all the best.
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  Speaker 2: Jgph Aulaitano, God bless you. Sure next week we'll do
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