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A Burn at 2 Stole Her Voice. At 68, She Took It Back. · Groove with Portia

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Grow with Porsche, the podcast that uncovers the
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  Speaker 1: hidden treasures within grief. I'm your host, Porsche the Producer,
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  Speaker 1: So get ready to grow with me, Porsche the Producer,
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  Speaker 1: let's dive in. Hello everybody, welcome back to Grow with Porsche.
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  Speaker 1: I am your host, Porsche Booker, and as always, don't
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  Speaker 1: So today, everybody, you know, one of the things that
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  Speaker 1: I always love to talk about is how people find
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  Speaker 1: their groove through the most adverse circumstances that they go through.
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  Speaker 1: And today I'm going to be joined by a woman
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  Speaker 1: who has survived what I like to call the scars
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  Speaker 1: that she wasn't meant to get right. And what I
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  Speaker 1: mean by that is I have tattoos, right, these were
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  Speaker 1: on purpose. I went and got them on my own
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  Speaker 1: free will, but she did not. So today I really
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  Speaker 1: want to touch on her story and have her share
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  Speaker 1: with us how she continues to hold that ball of
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  Speaker 1: confidence all these years later. So welcome to group, Porsche,
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  Speaker 1: Miss Gail Petrello. Gail, how you doing today?
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  Speaker 2: Good morning, Porsche. Thank you so much for being allowing
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  Speaker 2: me to be your guest this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Gail, It's an honor, you know. When I first read
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  Speaker 1: about your story, I have so many questions, of course, right,
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  Speaker 1: but before we jump into your story, what are you
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  Speaker 1: grateful for today?
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  Speaker 2: Gail? Oh my gosh, So today I'm grateful for my
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  Speaker 2: husband of forty five years, my best friend and most
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  Speaker 2: davide support, my friends and mentors who have encouraged and
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  Speaker 2: supported me throughout many years and continuing today. And the
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  Speaker 2: beautiful weather outside here in Tucson, Arizona.
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  Speaker 1: You know, hey, family friends weather. I mean, you can't
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  Speaker 1: go wrong, right, because there's you know, the three f's, family,
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  Speaker 1: friends and fun right. And I think, Gail, I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: that you brought that up because I think, especially when
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  Speaker 1: you're going through something like what you experienced, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you experienced severe burns to your body, right over several
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  Speaker 1: years ago. Right, we're still in our thirties, right, and
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  Speaker 1: so curious, I'm curious, Gail, for our audience who's tuning in,
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  Speaker 1: what was that grief journey like for you to look
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  Speaker 1: at yourself in the mirror after you've kind of healed
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  Speaker 1: a little bit and accepted who you are and continue
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  Speaker 1: to do so to this day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's very interesting that you ask about how
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  Speaker 2: I see myself or saw myself. I covered the mirrors
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  Speaker 2: in my bedroom in our home for years because I
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  Speaker 2: felt as though I was damaged goods and I thought
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  Speaker 2: people would see me as that. Even though my scars
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  Speaker 2: are invisible, they're under my clothing. So I was burned
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  Speaker 2: as a toddler at two and a half and didn't
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  Speaker 2: come out of hiding and share my story until I
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  Speaker 2: was sixty eight years old. So I kept that secret
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  Speaker 2: a very long time. And once I started sharing the secret,
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  Speaker 2: you know, lifting that burden, that weight off your shoulders
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  Speaker 2: was so uplifting, rewarding. Writing about it was cathartic, and
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  Speaker 2: every day is a new day to share this story
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  Speaker 2: and to continue, not the grieving, not the guilt, not
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  Speaker 2: the shame, but the gratitude.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean, Gil, I love the
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  Speaker 1: optimism that you have, right, because clearly something like that
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  Speaker 1: as women, we live in a society, right, Let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: that thrives on image, that thrives on women looking a
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  Speaker 1: certain way.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I always think of the pin up girls, right, the
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  Speaker 1: Betty Pages of the world, the Lucille balls. Right. I
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  Speaker 1: think we still have that ideological perfectionism still ingrand in
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  Speaker 1: our society for women. And so when you have a
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  Speaker 1: quote unquote not so perfect look based on these notions,
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's easier for you to hide to
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  Speaker 1: you know, not want to be seen. And I'm curious, Gail,
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  Speaker 1: what was that shift in perspective for you to say
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  Speaker 1: I want to become visible now I want people to
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  Speaker 1: see who I really am. And also what did it
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  Speaker 1: take for you to finally say I see Gail?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it took a lot, let me tell you. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't like I woke up one day
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  Speaker 2: and said, Okay, I'm done with this. It was a
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  Speaker 2: gradual change, right. And so one of the first things
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  Speaker 2: I think was just really tired of hiding. I hid
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  Speaker 2: behind my clothes, I hid behind my career, I hid
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  Speaker 2: behind imposter syndrome. I hid behind all these things. And
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  Speaker 2: little by little I started sharing my scars, both the
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  Speaker 2: visible and invisible, and found very surprisingly people leaned in
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  Speaker 2: because they recognized their stories in mind. And so the
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  Speaker 2: more I shared, whether it was one on one or
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  Speaker 2: one times five hundred, people came up to me and
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  Speaker 2: told me that my story resonated and told me to
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  Speaker 2: share more and more. So every time I speak, what
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  Speaker 2: I find is I share stories that I haven't shared
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  Speaker 2: before because I'm getting more comfortable in my own skin
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  Speaker 2: and in my own body. And I have learned that
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  Speaker 2: by sharing my story, I'm healing, but I'm also by
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  Speaker 2: being vulnerable, I'm giving whoever it is in my audience
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  Speaker 2: the opportunity to share their story as well. Because secrets
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  Speaker 2: weigh us down right, and when we take those secrets
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  Speaker 2: off our shoulders and unburden ourselves, we open up to
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  Speaker 2: a whole new, authentic self. And so that's what keeps
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  Speaker 2: me kind of doing what I'm doing, talking about my story,
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  Speaker 2: sharing how I've overcome different challenges and being my full self.
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  Speaker 1: And get you know, I'm glad you about secrets, because
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  Speaker 1: I mean, think about when we're children, when we're in school, right, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: I want to tell you a secret. You know, I
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  Speaker 1: like the boy who likes to wear the bow ties
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  Speaker 1: to class. Right, That's where it kind of what like
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  Speaker 1: starts for some of us. For some it's maybe in
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  Speaker 1: the household. And I'm curious, Gail, what did it take
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  Speaker 1: also for you to say, you know what, I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to be seen. I'm really going to be seen for
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  Speaker 1: who I am and own it authentically, right, and even
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  Speaker 1: you know, to tie into the confidence piece, right, because
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  Speaker 1: I think so many women and also children struggle with
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  Speaker 1: that confidence of showing up, owning their inner weird saying
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  Speaker 1: this is who I am. So what did that take
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  Speaker 1: for you?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? So, as I said, I heard forever, I wanted
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  Speaker 2: to be as invisible as possible, all through school, grade school,
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  Speaker 2: junior high, high school, and even into college. If I
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  Speaker 2: knew the answer to a question, I would not raise
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  Speaker 2: my hand. I would sit on my hands in order
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  Speaker 2: not to draw attention to me. So really, I think
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  Speaker 2: the largest thing that changed for me was I was
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  Speaker 2: at an event and it was a fundraiser and I
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  Speaker 2: was behind stage speaking to the founder of the nonprofit.
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  Speaker 2: Even though her nonprofit Beaeds of Courage, was founded here
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  Speaker 2: in Tucson, it's international. And when I met her through
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  Speaker 2: a mutual friend, I said, Gene, I have to live
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  Speaker 2: vicuriously through you. My gosh, you're in Japan and in London,
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  Speaker 2: in Chicago. And so that afternoon I said to her,
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  Speaker 2: so where have you been? And she looked at me
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  Speaker 2: and she said, I spent a couple days in the
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  Speaker 2: burn unit with kids in Phoenix Children's Hospital. My mouth opened,
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  Speaker 2: tears started rolling down my face, and we all know
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  Speaker 2: how timing is. The MC called me to the podium.
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  Speaker 2: So I look out to this audience of two hundred
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  Speaker 2: who I knew some of them, but the only person
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  Speaker 2: who really knew my story or thought he did, was
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  Speaker 2: my husband. And so I walk out and the tears
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  Speaker 2: are ruining my miscara in the whole nine yards, and
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  Speaker 2: I said, oh, my gosh, guys, I'm so sorry. I
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  Speaker 2: was backstage with Gene. She shared that she was with
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  Speaker 2: burned kids in Phoenix. I'm in Tucson. I wish my
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  Speaker 2: family and I had that kind of support when I
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  Speaker 2: was burned as a child. There was total dead silence,
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  Speaker 2: and because I hadn't done a lot of speaking. I
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  Speaker 2: didn't know how to use that silence to my advantage,
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  Speaker 2: and I just went right on with the program. And
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  Speaker 2: there was a woman in the audience who came up
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  Speaker 2: to me after She's very well known here in town,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't know her. And she said, girl, you
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  Speaker 2: got a story to tell? And I said, no, I don't,
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  Speaker 2: and she said, well, why don't we have coffee and
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  Speaker 2: I'll share my story. It was like fine. So that
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  Speaker 2: was September twelfth of twenty nineteen. By Christmas, she had
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  Speaker 2: gotten my story out of me because the timing, I
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  Speaker 2: guess was just right. And by that February the world
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  Speaker 2: shut down with COVID and I started typing and it
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  Speaker 2: was so cathartic, and it became a children's book. And
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  Speaker 2: that's really what started my self confidence, because if you
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  Speaker 2: can stand on stage in front of a podium, in
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  Speaker 2: front of two hundred people and share tears, that's confidence.
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  Speaker 2: I had never had that before, and so it just
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  Speaker 2: spurred in me the need the impact of sharing my
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  Speaker 2: story and how I will heal from it, and how,
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  Speaker 2: as I said earlier, the people in my audience are
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  Speaker 2: able to heal as well.
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  Speaker 1: When you gave them permission, Gil, because you came up
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  Speaker 1: on stage vulnerable, tears coming down your eyes. Good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe the snot wasn't running where you could have last
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  Speaker 1: some of those people. Yeah, you know, it's probably a
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  Speaker 1: good thing. It wasn't that, but you gave them. You
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  Speaker 1: opened the door for that level of vulnerability, that level
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  Speaker 1: of sharing, that level of being visible, literally visible. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious, Gail, when people would ask you about your
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  Speaker 1: burn story or like, if they could see anything, what
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  Speaker 1: would you tell them?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's so interesting. If people want to see them,
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  Speaker 2: I don't show it to them because I don't really
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  Speaker 2: want to know what the reaction is. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: see them all the time and they're not pretty. But
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  Speaker 2: when people ask me to share my story and expound
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  Speaker 2: on how I felt self confidence, the first thing I
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  Speaker 2: talk about is getting braces. As a fifty year old woman,
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  Speaker 2: I had buck teeth, crooked teeth. I never smiled. I
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  Speaker 2: always talk like this, always, always, always until that day
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  Speaker 2: on stage, and that spurred me because I had gotten
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  Speaker 2: braces and it let me be my whole self. And
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  Speaker 2: what I've learned is that by sharing my smile, it's contagious. Right,
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  Speaker 2: I'm smiling, smile right back. And so we make people's
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  Speaker 2: day by smiling and sharing that. And so yeah, it's
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  Speaker 2: just I love that people are curious, and I love
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  Speaker 2: that people feel because I'm open to listening to them
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  Speaker 2: that and sharing that they feel comfortable saying and what
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  Speaker 2: you do after and do you remember the pain? And
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  Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Right. The other interesting thing I will
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  Speaker 2: add is, so I don't know if you know the
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  Speaker 2: clothing line Cabby Cabi. I have a girlfriend who sells it.
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  Speaker 2: It's trunk show. And so over the many years I've
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  Speaker 2: known her, twenty five or so years, I would have
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  Speaker 2: a party, or I'd go to a friend's house and
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  Speaker 2: have a party, or she would have a party at
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  Speaker 2: her house, and I'd always go into the bathroom and
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  Speaker 2: change my clothes and come out and go, well, what
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  Speaker 2: do you think of this? Where everyone else and we
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  Speaker 2: tease it's a girl's get naked party, right, We don't
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  Speaker 2: truly get naked, but we run around in our bra
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  Speaker 2: and our undies and you know, like share everything. And
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  Speaker 2: I didn't do that until last year, and now I
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  Speaker 2: run around on my undies and it's like nobody goes, oh,
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  Speaker 2: my god, what's that? Or look at you? Because now
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  Speaker 2: people know my story and I don't feel self conscious
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  Speaker 2: because I don't feel like people are staring and most
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  Speaker 2: people are like, until we see you like this, we
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  Speaker 2: never would have understood totally. And so's it's that awakening
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  Speaker 2: of self that builds out confidence, gets rid of that
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  Speaker 2: self doubt.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you shed several layers, right, the identity that you
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  Speaker 1: had before you decided to stand up at that podium
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  Speaker 1: and say, I wish that this is what my family
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  Speaker 1: had when I was burned as a kid. Right, So
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  Speaker 1: really it's as though, Gail, this was the catalyst that
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  Speaker 1: you needed in order to step fully into who you
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  Speaker 1: are today. Right to be free, Right to be around
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  Speaker 1: these other women and say, look, I'm running around in
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  Speaker 1: my underwear. I mean, if we're flinging our brawls around
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  Speaker 1: like slingshots, that's okay, But it's it's girls just want
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  Speaker 1: to have fun, authentic fun without shame, without guilt.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it's so freeing. And again it enables other
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  Speaker 2: people to be freeing. Right, girls who have large breasts,
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  Speaker 2: girls who have tiny breast, girls who have tummies. Right,
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  Speaker 2: if we're all out there showing our stuff, nobody's like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't look at me, it's out there, And that to
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  Speaker 2: me is so fulfilling that I'm helping other people be
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  Speaker 2: comfortable in their own bodies, right, because how many of
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  Speaker 2: us are five foot six and blonde hair and blue
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  Speaker 2: eyes and skiing out whatever one hundred and fifteen pounds.
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  Speaker 2: Not very many of us. And as we age, we
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  Speaker 2: get the wrinkles, and we get the tummies, and we
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  Speaker 2: get the sagging booths and everything that goes with it.
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  Speaker 2: And so I think one of my premises now is
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  Speaker 2: we are not alone. And once we recognize we are
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  Speaker 2: not alone, whether it's we've experienced trauma, who hasn't, we
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  Speaker 2: have a story to share, who doesn't. We are not
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  Speaker 2: perfect in our bodies and our brains, in our comments,
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  Speaker 2: who is? And once we're able to unseal that envelope
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  Speaker 2: and let all that out, we are our authentic SEPs.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no restriction. You're no longer letting society's criticism
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  Speaker 1: hold you prisoner. Right, you see yourself for who you
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  Speaker 1: are in the mirror, whether you have tattoo, stretch marks,
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  Speaker 1: extra smile lines in your face, whatever, you own who
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  Speaker 1: you are, and you're okay with it, right? I mean, essentially,
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  Speaker 1: you've become visible, not only just to the world, but
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  Speaker 1: to yourself. And Gail, I'm curious. You have a book
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  Speaker 1: called Become Visible, and I'm curious what was the writing process, Like,
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  Speaker 1: I know you were writing it, probably during COVID, but
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  Speaker 1: how did you really settle on the title becoming Visible?
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  Speaker 1: Because I think this is really the theme to your
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  Speaker 1: whole story.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So the first book was called The Accident, and
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  Speaker 2: it was just me starting to tell the story, and
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  Speaker 2: it's meant for older kids, young adults. Could I talk
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  Speaker 2: about bullying and other such things. When I've spoken, people
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  Speaker 2: were telling me that they were resonating with my story.
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  Speaker 2: And that really became the impetus behind becoming Visible, because,
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  Speaker 2: as I said, I hid for so many years. I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to be as invisible as I could. So being
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  Speaker 2: this new person out in front on stage, behind a podium,
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  Speaker 2: this person speaking at books, book clubs, and rotaries and
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  Speaker 2: I was the keynote address at a high school graduation
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  Speaker 2: last year in front of five hundred people. I never
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  Speaker 2: would have imagined me doing that. And I don't do
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  Speaker 2: it because I want the spotlight. I do it because
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  Speaker 2: by sharing my story. I'm empowering others to recognize that
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  Speaker 2: they're not alone. That when we share our stories, we
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  Speaker 2: take that burden and those secrets off our shoulders and
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  Speaker 2: we become our authentic self. So becoming visible is exactly that.
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  Speaker 2: It was, peeling the layers off of the invisibility to
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  Speaker 2: become visible, to share how I've overcome fears and phobias
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  Speaker 2: and self doubt and inferiority complex all of that, and
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  Speaker 2: the result is I'm visible. I raise my hand. I
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  Speaker 2: am board share of the American Red Cross of Southern Arizona.
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  Speaker 2: I lead meetings and retreats, and I speak for them,
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  Speaker 2: and that this new person who I am just relishes,
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  Speaker 2: that just relishes in that because little kids recognize that
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  Speaker 2: they don't have to be bullied and why bullies bullied.
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  Speaker 2: Older people recognize that whether it's a divorce or losing
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  Speaker 2: a family member or whatever their trauma is, they can
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  Speaker 2: get behind that, they can get beyond that. And that's
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  Speaker 2: what's crucial. You know, our stories are all different, the
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  Speaker 2: way we recover is different, but it's so important, I
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  Speaker 2: think for all of us to recognize that we are
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  Speaker 2: not alone. Some part of each of our story resonates
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  Speaker 2: with others and it enables them to recognize that they
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  Speaker 2: two can overcome those challenges, whatever those challenges are.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, Gail, you hit it on the head.
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  Speaker 1: We tend to think we're alone when we're going through something, right,
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  Speaker 1: the limiting beliefs that we have about ourselves, when we're
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  Speaker 1: holding on to the secrets, holding on to the shame
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  Speaker 1: that would have, could have, should have? Well, will my
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  Speaker 1: family think when I started talking about this, right? But
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  Speaker 1: will I bring shame to their name?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: Will I get ostracized? So you know, it's those barriers
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  Speaker 1: that we have to work through as we own who
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  Speaker 1: we are authentically right and be okay with that.
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  Speaker 2: I also got honestly very tired of having fomo you've
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  Speaker 2: heard of, fear of missing out. I was always in
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  Speaker 2: the background. Im tired of being in the background. I
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  Speaker 2: finally had the courage to stand up and say I
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  Speaker 2: have an opinion about that, not in your face, but
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  Speaker 2: just hey, have you thought about this? And I use
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  Speaker 2: those tools in my coaching, and it's just, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you watch people's eyes broaden and you watch them light up,
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  Speaker 2: and it's just it's so empowering. I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it is because you have stepped into who you are,
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  Speaker 1: that new version, that new identity that takes all those
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  Speaker 1: pieces that were once hidden, that were once shame written,
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  Speaker 1: that were once timid, where now you own it confidently,
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  Speaker 1: and you're able to transfer that level of confidence to
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  Speaker 1: your clients by showing up every single day like, look,
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  Speaker 1: this is this is what I live with and I've
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  Speaker 1: learned to love this version of Gail through open up
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  Speaker 1: about my story?
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  Speaker 2: Right right?
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  Speaker 1: No, exactly, Well, Gail for audience, who's tuning in? I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there's gonna be people that want to connect with you,
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  Speaker 1: get a copy of your book, maybe even you know,
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  Speaker 1: work with you on a one on one basis coaching.
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  Speaker 1: How can they get a hold of you? What's your
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  Speaker 1: social media and all that good stuff?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you so much. So, Becoming Visible is available
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  Speaker 2: on my website first spelled out impressions plural uh six
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  Speaker 2: oh no one sorry, first impression spelled out the number
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  Speaker 2: one dot com, So first impressions one dot com is
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  Speaker 2: my website. You also get the book available through my publisher,
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  Speaker 2: booklocker dot com with a backslash one three eight one nine,
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  Speaker 2: and my phone number is six zero two six two
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  Speaker 2: one zero zero four to two.
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  Speaker 1: All right, So everybody you can find Gail from her website.
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  Speaker 1: You can probably just do a simple Google search as well.
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  Speaker 1: I always tell everybody, look, Google is amazing. Now, It's
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  Speaker 1: like the best phone book that was ever invented. You
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  Speaker 1: can find anybody anywhere. Well, Gail, we're going to be
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  Speaker 1: wrapping up here soon, and I thank you so much
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  Speaker 1: for sharing your story. I can see the confidence literally
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  Speaker 1: beaming off of you, because I think so many people
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  Speaker 1: needed to hear your story to reignite that their story matters,
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  Speaker 1: that they're not alone in the muck of what their
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  Speaker 1: current set of occupancy may look like. And Gil, for
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  Speaker 1: our audience who's tuning in, if there's somebody out there
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  Speaker 1: who's ready to take that baton and own their story,
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  Speaker 1: what words of wisdom can you share with them today?
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  Speaker 2: When we share our story, we heal. We also give
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  Speaker 2: people permission to share their story to be vulnerable, so
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  Speaker 2: that they too can heal. And I would love to
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  Speaker 2: leave your audience with smile. Share your smiles because they
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  Speaker 2: are the good kind of contagious and what you reap
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  Speaker 2: from that makes your day and everyone else's day around you.
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  Speaker 1: Well, everybody that was miss Gail Petrello that you heard from,
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  Speaker 1: And that concludes another episode from Grew of Portie. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for listening and until next time, everybody, Pie's and Harry
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  Speaker 1: Grease and don't forget smiling is indeed contagious.