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The Breakfast Club Presents "Gangster Chronicles Podcast · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: The planet. Charlomagne the God here to bring you a
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  Speaker 1: brand new podcast from the Black Effect Podcast Network with
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  Speaker 1: the Holidays. Here the Breakfast Club is gonna take a
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  Speaker 1: little break, but don't worry. I got you, Okay. These
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  Speaker 1: are my old g's right here. The Gangster Chronicles Podcast
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  Speaker 1: still Mob James and the Good Brother mca Man. They
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  Speaker 1: got conversations with everybody from gangsters, leice officers, bank robbers, rappers, politicians,
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  Speaker 1: former drug dealers, whatever they got it. They're just giving
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  Speaker 1: you a glimpse into the world of those that live
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  Speaker 1: their lives outside of societies normals. Make sure you listen
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  Speaker 1: to the Gangster Chronicles podcast on the Black Effect or
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  Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts worldwide. Why from the streets
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  Speaker 1: to Thegether across the usc Compton watch Thank the La
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  Speaker 1: Come on the California Valley. I resent that call of County.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're keeping it rail on your side of
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  Speaker 1: your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles. Goals. Were gonna
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  Speaker 1: tell you how we go if I lie my notes
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  Speaker 1: a birl like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth
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  Speaker 1: and nothing but the truth than chronicals. This is not
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  Speaker 1: your average show. You're now tuned into the Reil mc eight,
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  Speaker 1: Big James and Fixed Fails the Streets. Hello from hood
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  Speaker 1: to hood, our backyard to yours. We would like to
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  Speaker 1: welcome you to another episode of Against the Chronicles podcast
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  Speaker 1: with James McDonald mc eight, myself Norm Steel. You can
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  Speaker 1: listen to us on the iHeart Apple iPhone users go
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  Speaker 1: to the Apple podcast app, subscribe, drop that five star
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  Speaker 1: rating and leave a comment. We had the privilege of
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  Speaker 1: having a pioneer in the building the night he stepped
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  Speaker 1: on the scene in nineteen eighty three and has been
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  Speaker 1: a fixture in the game since then. Were twin two
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  Speaker 1: solo albums, nine platinum and gold plaques under this belt.
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  Speaker 1: The respect of his pierced North, South, East and West.
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  Speaker 1: He is arguably the most successful rapper of all time.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah Bitch has definitely made him rich, with a fan
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  Speaker 1: base that developed by slinging mixtapes to the Pence players
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  Speaker 1: and hustlers in the streets to cocaine rich Oakland, California,
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  Speaker 1: known as the City of Dope. His career took flight
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  Speaker 1: when he linked up with Jerry Hodges, the younger brother
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  Speaker 1: of Oaktown Ballertier Hodges, owner of seventy five Girls Records.
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  Speaker 1: So Jerry basically was like, yeah, you know, my brother
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  Speaker 1: owned a record label and everybody knew who his brother was.
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  Speaker 1: His brother ride by it, sitting there every day, riding by.
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  Speaker 1: It's nineteen eighty five nigga Zi by the nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 1: five bins. You know what I'm saying, Come back down
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  Speaker 1: the hill, the brand new catalac Last backed up in
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  Speaker 1: a different colored catalec. We're like, okay, we know what
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  Speaker 1: that nigga is. You know, he got the he got
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  Speaker 1: the curl sometimes, you know, like ride around with the
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  Speaker 1: colored rollers in his airy yeah, yeah, yeah, But sometimes
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  Speaker 1: he just laid it down and he'd just be wavy
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  Speaker 1: on you like that. That's that nigga. But he was
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  Speaker 1: a lot of niggas that's big time you could connect
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  Speaker 1: into something, you like. They that stay boys, that's what they.
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  Speaker 1: He wasn't. He wasn't a nigga like that. The Dean
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  Speaker 1: was a nigga who came up selling U. He made
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  Speaker 1: all his little cousins road joints for him and he'd
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  Speaker 1: get a big ass bag of we like Appolaw or
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  Speaker 1: some nigga like twelve years old and make all his
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  Speaker 1: little cousins road joints, and there was a joints they
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  Speaker 1: sold joints after the projects. He turned that into a
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  Speaker 1: motherfucking empire of his own ship. But the plug he
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  Speaker 1: would fuck with, he wasn't really like the mob. He
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  Speaker 1: just was a nigga who had clientele, like like his
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  Speaker 1: clientele was like his clientele wasn't like you come to him,
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  Speaker 1: you meet him where he said me meeting me. He
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  Speaker 1: wasn't like running the organization, wasn't no staff and that,
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  Speaker 1: and he was just a baller so and he only
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  Speaker 1: sold like big shit. So Jerry take me up there
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  Speaker 1: to meet his brother. You know, he kind of he
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  Speaker 1: tried up to the left a little bit for a minute,
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  Speaker 1: and then we doubled back again, like we never would
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  Speaker 1: have got in if it wasn't for a little broth,
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  Speaker 1: Like that's a little brother, same, I'm the same, daddy,
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  Speaker 1: and Jerry get us up in there. That shit, just
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  Speaker 1: that seventy five girls changed my old entire fucking life,
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  Speaker 1: Like getting around Dean, getting around that hustle. He was
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  Speaker 1: a real fucking player, player player, like like real player,
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  Speaker 1: fucking this kind of nigga that, um, you find a
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  Speaker 1: stack of pictures. It's like naked pictures of all the
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  Speaker 1: bitches that you wish you had from all over the city,
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  Speaker 1: like dang like, So that's that nigga. So he basically, um,
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  Speaker 1: he really gave me that player game. He gave me
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  Speaker 1: the game on how to make a record. He didn't
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  Speaker 1: know how to make a beat that mother couldn't wrap
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  Speaker 1: him and play instrument. But he he wouldn't made everybody
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  Speaker 1: teaching the game. How to where you go to make
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  Speaker 1: the record, who you get to mix it, where do
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  Speaker 1: you go to get the artwork done in the in
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  Speaker 1: the fucking album cover, where do you go to get
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  Speaker 1: the sh master, who who manufactures it, who you take
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  Speaker 1: it to, the ship it out, the distributor, the fucking
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  Speaker 1: and then who you could take it too directly and
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  Speaker 1: then he go back like a paper round, just pick
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  Speaker 1: up all the money. And we did that ship for
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  Speaker 1: two albums and the nigga let me ride side by side.
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  Speaker 1: We used to we used to put that come down
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  Speaker 1: in La and bust moves, pull up on niggas like
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  Speaker 1: ice tea and ship like. He was really like Dean
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  Speaker 1: was a real fucking player. And in the end it
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  Speaker 1: was a beautiful thing. Because I come through his little brother.
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  Speaker 1: His mama ended up being like my mom, and shit,
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  Speaker 1: fucking it's a family thing. We never signed any contracts.
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  Speaker 1: So when he it was like a hobby to him,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, man, I'm through with y'all. We
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  Speaker 1: was in a cool position. He gave us the game
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  Speaker 1: and let us walk just free, and we just did
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  Speaker 1: the same thing. He did it all over again. That's
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  Speaker 1: I saw Nigga in the game. We just duplicated where
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  Speaker 1: he showed us. We started dangerous music. It's the same
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  Speaker 1: fucking thing. And probably talked you at you some games,
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  Speaker 1: I mean olds supposed to do with the youngsters coming up,
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  Speaker 1: like literally we took like about ten racks man and
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  Speaker 1: knocked that shit until about three hundred thousand over the summer,
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  Speaker 1: fucking around with with the with the independent hustle. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so why did you just say that he was doing?
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  Speaker 1: Was he hot? Was something going on with him? So
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  Speaker 1: Dan had did it like a little He did like
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  Speaker 1: a little year in jail in like eighty six. We
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  Speaker 1: started sucking around eighty five and eighty seven when we
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  Speaker 1: shut it down, So he did like about a year.
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  Speaker 1: He came home from the year, and uh, I felt like, man, like,
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  Speaker 1: you know you're coming home, yo, yo, hustle kind of
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  Speaker 1: get a set back a little bit, and you're thinking,
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  Speaker 1: like ground level, I'm going to build this ship back up.
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  Speaker 1: He still had all the same plugs. I just feel
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  Speaker 1: like we was in the way. Man. He was like
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  Speaker 1: about to get back on his grind and do his
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  Speaker 1: thing and that music. Shit. We was real dependent, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. We was real like clinging and
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  Speaker 1: shit and needed ship. And we all up in the
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  Speaker 1: nigga house and nigga, let's a little brother and the honey,
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  Speaker 1: and we came with a lot. I looked back then,
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  Speaker 1: it was like, damn, bro, you're gonna you're gonna kick
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  Speaker 1: us out of the game. But when we look back
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  Speaker 1: on the nigga gave us the game. So yeah, he
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  Speaker 1: figured he talked to you all. Y'all need to know.
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  Speaker 1: He was about to get back on his housing. But yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he got mad at me a little bro. I think
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  Speaker 1: he faked the whole thing. I think he just facted
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  Speaker 1: to fake like he was mad at us. Like, man, y'all,
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  Speaker 1: nigga know, fuck out my shit. But were just free
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  Speaker 1: to go. Man, that's cool. And that was a crucial
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  Speaker 1: error back then. Man, that's where Oakland parally all that,
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  Speaker 1: because both cities had major kingpins. Man, what did you
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  Speaker 1: see as far as Oakland? Man? Whoopers? Did? What impact
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  Speaker 1: that Craig had one the community up there? Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a high school class at eighty four, so I'm
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  Speaker 1: right there. Eighty four is when somebody, you know, okay,
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  Speaker 1: look go you got eighty two eighty three. It's a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot of motherfucker's pulling up in their little bins
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  Speaker 1: or something. You know, you see like the older niggas,
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  Speaker 1: and he'd be like da man, niggas. Uh, they'be you know,
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  Speaker 1: free basing and ship man. You know, motherfucker he can say, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, me and my bitch we'd be smoking. Man.
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  Speaker 1: I was I'm smuggling cup. Mother fucker was talking about
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  Speaker 1: that shit like it was ballish it. So you're sitting
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  Speaker 1: there going that. So you're looking at You're looking at you.
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  Speaker 1: Nigga's saying free base and you're looking at free base
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  Speaker 1: and it's like a fly thing in nineteen eighty two
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  Speaker 1: eighty three. So one day in eighty four, somebody goes
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  Speaker 1: on such and such block, they saw this ship. You
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  Speaker 1: you can just get a piece of that ship in
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  Speaker 1: free base for ten dollars. So that's how the ship
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  Speaker 1: was like marketed at first, and motherfucker's flocked to that ship.
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  Speaker 1: They ran so high school class at eighty four. Niggas
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  Speaker 1: is like, if you got a few thousand, you're doing good.
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  Speaker 1: You're doing good. You you're cool. You you got a
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  Speaker 1: little car, you put some rams on your ship. You
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  Speaker 1: got a little bit, and your ship you keep. You
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  Speaker 1: keep a fucking rubber band with a hunting on top,
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  Speaker 1: looking like somebody and shit. And you know, niggas respecting
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  Speaker 1: that your hustle. You keep a few thousands and shoe
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  Speaker 1: box on the bed. You're good. So that's that's that's
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  Speaker 1: when that's so nigga. Right, you got a cool little car,
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  Speaker 1: you spent like twenty five hundred, only puts some wheels on.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta pay, you cool, got an earl shop, pain job,
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  Speaker 1: whatever the fuck? You cool. Niggas like respecting your your
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  Speaker 1: young hustle. Right after that, I remember just off one
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  Speaker 1: block like ninety nine and Plymouth. So many niggas got
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  Speaker 1: rich off that one block. And I'm not talking about
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  Speaker 1: niggas making a few hundred. Thought the niggas got rich,
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  Speaker 1: and then it just just everywhere there used to be
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  Speaker 1: a they used to sell Harold when they used some
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  Speaker 1: motherfucking sell weed. It was whatever. All them ships turned
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  Speaker 1: out to be fucking cracked form. I member. Some niggas
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  Speaker 1: opened up shopping an apartments when it start getting real.
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  Speaker 1: That had the two apartments where you could just you know,
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  Speaker 1: come into gaateness. It's only one, you know, one way in,
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  Speaker 1: one way up sh They love that. Man. Niggas got
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  Speaker 1: that ship popping. The other niggas showed up, not a
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  Speaker 1: few niggas down. That's when the ship started. It's just
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  Speaker 1: it just it was like give me your shit, y'all
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  Speaker 1: ain't even tough en if they had to give me
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  Speaker 1: your give me your apartments, like it just boosted every time.
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  Speaker 1: Then I'm high high schools the money for yeah, cat
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  Speaker 1: just hanging on the block. Man if I didn't go
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  Speaker 1: to school, and shit, fuck school, n I really I'm
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  Speaker 1: shulling due. That was the way to get it. But
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  Speaker 1: that shit turned into like like before that, it was
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  Speaker 1: like some put them up ship. Look you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: sling it out or whatever. After that it was like
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  Speaker 1: little niggas like this little nigga, you know, be a
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  Speaker 1: little nigga like that nigga was a marketing high school.
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  Speaker 1: That nigga was like a boss after that crack because
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  Speaker 1: he got so much money and had a little army
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  Speaker 1: and shit like that. Nigga. It's a boss now and
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  Speaker 1: nigga get you hurt, you know, and it's still going
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  Speaker 1: on today. Money gives some nigga certain courage. But it
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  Speaker 1: was a long run of a lot of different roles before,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the fucking clips and the fullies and ship,
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  Speaker 1: the whole different run of like street life that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: crack crack, fuck up in the fuck up poor a
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  Speaker 1: little liquor and roll something up. Still Chronicles, We'll be
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  Speaker 1: right back where are you at? This is og Gangster
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  Speaker 1: Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is back in effect,
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for some of that g ship and blaze up.
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  Speaker 1: Some wanna marrow like everything. Let me ask you this, um,
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  Speaker 1: and this is mostly for eight chances for you too too.
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  Speaker 1: What's the difference? You think it hit each city different,
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  Speaker 1: like you think it hit comp in the same way. James,
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  Speaker 1: It's different, but you got the same results. It hit
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  Speaker 1: everything was. Everything is gonna be different because the way
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  Speaker 1: they got down in Oakland, the way you getting down
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago is totally different. The way they wrap their ship,
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  Speaker 1: the way they sell it. Um. Like in Compton, you
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  Speaker 1: had thirty month fuckers like on the block, but they
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  Speaker 1: was all homies. Everybody was like this at the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get a year in, eight months in it. Now
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  Speaker 1: everybody fell apart, and now we're fighting over that block
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  Speaker 1: in that block. So and then you get the same
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  Speaker 1: thing in Open you got the same fucking effect. Now
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  Speaker 1: there's over territory. You know what I'm saying. But the
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  Speaker 1: cold part is, you know some something got out of
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  Speaker 1: it because they couldn't deal with it. Like you said,
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  Speaker 1: the marketing at school. Now he got the money. Now
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  Speaker 1: I needed to shot caller. You had a whole bunch
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  Speaker 1: of them in the neighborhood. You know, them was the
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  Speaker 1: good boys, and the good boys always made the motherfucking
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  Speaker 1: money man. But you can't be mad at that motherfucker
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  Speaker 1: because you got the game. Bangers ain't trying to do that.
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  Speaker 1: They're trying to game back. They ain't focused like the
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  Speaker 1: next nigga was. So it's it's all pretty much the
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  Speaker 1: same way y'all have the conflict of interest in La
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  Speaker 1: was the the legga fell the hood who got too rich.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean you had your you had your
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  Speaker 1: certain niggas, like you said, certain niggas was hustlers like
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  Speaker 1: a motherfucker. Certain neighborhoods. Every it seemed like every hood,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Compton or whatever, watch La. Every hood had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of niggas who just had the sack that
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  Speaker 1: was just real, you know. And then you just had
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  Speaker 1: a couple of niggas like you said, James, it was
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  Speaker 1: a few of us. That was ten niggas on the
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  Speaker 1: block trying to rush the same car this week week. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so it just had it had the same hustle, the hustler.
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  Speaker 1: I had a honey one who was doing it was
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  Speaker 1: it was real big and he felt all the way
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  Speaker 1: to fuck off. Just bad luck, bad luck, bad luck,
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  Speaker 1: and the niggas like and he was like went the
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  Speaker 1: trenches with the motherfucking hoodie and the dressing all black
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  Speaker 1: and shit. Fuck now this nigga went buddy, got it.
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  Speaker 1: Somebody giving the kilo nigga and so that ship he
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  Speaker 1: sold a few kilos and all fucking rocks for until
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  Speaker 1: he contill. He got money again. Nigga just went he
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  Speaker 1: went back from being he dropped his whole baller status.
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  Speaker 1: It would be a coner nigga again. But he did
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  Speaker 1: it in a ball away instead of like building his
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  Speaker 1: way up. He wouldn't got somebody front of the whole thing,
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  Speaker 1: family member whatever, and he just chipped away and just
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  Speaker 1: sit some of our some of our old gs. You
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  Speaker 1: gotta get back. That came that mentality to stay low key.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've seen lots of dudes from my neighborhood
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  Speaker 1: and then Compton whatever who didn't play that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you knew the niggas was ballers and the motherfucker, but
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  Speaker 1: they kind of went low key with the floss. You
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying was talking about pocket change too.
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  Speaker 1: Niggas is cool. Let me go set up the block
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  Speaker 1: for two days and they're just pulling up and motherfucking
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  Speaker 1: pintos and ship motherfucking work shirts on and shit like that.
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  Speaker 1: That's even like the music buness. Like when when y'all
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  Speaker 1: started rapping, you didn't see too many brothers in Compton
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  Speaker 1: La juried out, and then when they started shitting, everybody
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  Speaker 1: had to do. Yeah, definitely, you know, and that's all
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  Speaker 1: it is. It's the fucking train. And everybody said, fucking like,
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  Speaker 1: you see that motherfucker roll with the rims on this ship. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I got to go get that, but I'm gonna do
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  Speaker 1: something different exactly. And that's how they was getting the biggest,
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  Speaker 1: fattest motherfuckers had the baddest bitches. The niggas would not
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  Speaker 1: do one thing that they should have did. And you
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  Speaker 1: can't you know, hindsight whatever, but man, motherfuckers should have
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  Speaker 1: watched that money up, and nobody wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 1: I remember it being out there because it was so
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  Speaker 1: much money out there, my fucker. I remember hearing the
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  Speaker 1: talk motherfuckers like you can give your money to sell.
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  Speaker 1: And so some clean cut motherfucker who had a plan
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, give me your money and I'll
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  Speaker 1: give you half your money back legitimately set up in
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  Speaker 1: like businesses and ship in the bank, and niggas like, Nick,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a mean, I was gonna give
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  Speaker 1: me five hundy. Fuck you, Yeah, the nigga would have
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  Speaker 1: did that. If you would have did that, you could
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  Speaker 1: have been we we go to the shoe box with
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  Speaker 1: the ship and say, but you could have played the
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  Speaker 1: long version better any day. Exactly. The white boys, we didn't.
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  Speaker 1: We wasn't taught a lot of that ship, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the white boy game with the with the going there meet.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of us was just taught to just stack
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  Speaker 1: the bread, stacked the bread, stacked the bread, because it
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  Speaker 1: was straight and only one way exactly. I think, like
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  Speaker 1: shut said, it was a man who came to him
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  Speaker 1: offer them the opportunity to wash their ship. And I
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  Speaker 1: think sometimes man niggas just had they mean if collectively,
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  Speaker 1: if all these cities in America that got ate up
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  Speaker 1: by crack would have fucking infested the crack money back
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  Speaker 1: in the community, which might have been the way we
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  Speaker 1: see other ethnic groups take dirty in Oakland. Because let's
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: go back like seventy five girls, I'm talking about buying
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: up all the buildings on the main street. I'm talking
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: about buying all the houses on yo block. That type.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: She was some people that did and I ain't gonna
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: say the dude's name. One brother did do it. They
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: still washed them. Because I've been back then. You gotta
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: figure out shit, everything was set up in design for
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: you to not succeed anyway as a black man. Whatever
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: your ship was, and you know how hard they came
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: down on niggas who were serving and ship. Motherfucker, they
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: get your ass A thousand years and ship so real.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: It's about a brother still balked up. Yeah, let's go
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: this seventy five girls eres over with. Now you bump
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: up to another dude, Yeah, that's that's the next level.
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: So we come out the situation with Deans, me and
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: his little brother. We bring home his first cousin, Randy,
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: and we go looking around through West Oakland and East
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Oakland trying to find one of these big ballers because
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: now we got the Finland we like. It. Ain't like
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: when I pulled up on Dean, I didn't know shit,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm learning shit. Now we know how to flip
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: this ship. All we need now is the money. So
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: I'm pulling up on dudes that I've been selling tapes
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: to for years. Motherfucker's no I put a real record out.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: They know you know it's next level. So I'm like,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: bron this this shit It flipped real easy. But it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty seven and the numbers. I'm saying, when you're
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: telling the nigga, I can show you how we can
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: hit a quick one hundred thousand, quick two and thousand.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: That's just sound like peanuts and them, and it's like
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: they're laughing at me and shit, like nigga, you know
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: how much I quick? I make two undred thousand and
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: they got I go flip that ship in tomorrow and
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I'm like, my nigga went, so I'm getting. I'm like,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: it's like I'm going from bank to bank and niggas,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: It's like, now I don't want to dude, I don't
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: want to do it like homies too, like motherfulies. I
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: consider homies is like like, nah, it's a game was
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: too new for him and Ship it's like that new product.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And show Ted had a he had one of his
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: dudes and his crew was named Ali and he was
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: like one of them loud motherfuckers, you know, just out
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: talking and out laugh for you and out how shit
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: talk you and just just one of them motherfuckers. And
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: he was like the hype man. And I wouldn't there
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: when it went down, but they said after how that
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: tied me and tied was real cool. Through the through
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: the tape hustle and ship and just you know, selling
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: customer tapes and you know what I'm saying he was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: he was supporting the two short Freddie B movement and
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: then um um Chid was like, nah, I'm cool. And
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: then we left, and he said Ali went into his
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the whole yelling and screaming ships like they that man's
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: too short or something. You know, if you knew him,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: you know when I'm loud, motherfuckers to just be like
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: like fuck, you gotta do that shit, and talked him
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: into it. So you know, he came back and I
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: always say this that he agreed to spend like like
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: a few geez like just to get studio time and
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: get you know, get the ship going. And then at
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: some point there I don't know if the music or
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: the hustle or what it was, he just without saying
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: all right, man, I'm gonna spend teen or I'm gonna
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: spend fifteen or whatever, he just started taking care of
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the movement. So you eighteen niggas moving every day, were
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: hustling and shit. But this nigga feeding all these niggas
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: his niggas. He like, we ain't feel to be riding
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: around fol deep in the car, so he pull out
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: four cars all for his car. You drive that we
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: got lights and drive albums. So we're riding around in
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the caravan and the niggas like really making it look right.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: It wasn't just it wasn't just like I'm gonna put
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: your in the studio. And he was making a nigga
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: look right like nigga when I own a Borning the
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Mac album cover, Nigga like sitting in his car. Put
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: all this jury on nigga, let's sell it. So that's
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: what that was. And then we go to a show.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: We're pulling up mob deep fly ass cars. You know,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: niggas is singing that ship going all that shorten them.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: So we set us, we set the standard to a
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: certain level and we kept it there and then you know,
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it was it was just like that. The money start
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: coming in. We got more fly Ass cards and we
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: just we had that look. So you know, I put
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: that on Tid that he made the whole Born to Mac.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: We got we got to deal with drive off, Boring
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: to Mac. He made that whole Born to Mac movement.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Like look, real fly and the niggas you know, at
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the time coming out of like nineteen eighty five eighty six,
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: being around Dean Hodges and Dean's house. Dean was the
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: kind of nigga who he got a big ass bank
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: roll on this sock. He got a bag of heroin
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: in this sock. He got some cocaine powder on this side.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: He got some cocaine rocks in this sock. He given
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: everybody to come in the house what they want. He's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: given all the bitches what they want, all the little
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: It's like ballplayers, professional ballplayers coming up. He got to
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: you know, he he's sitting down. You get to hang
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: out with Dean. The bitches in the living room in
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: the panting. But the bitch come walking up the hallway.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: Titty's out. She's just walked back to the back of you,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: like damn. You know, he's a nigga. But everything's there,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: like soon as you come in, the cocaine is on
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: the everything free. It's a big ass box of weed
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: under the under the seat in the living room, under
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: the chair. It's just everything's just like just just grabbing
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: some papers, roll you're joining, put some powder up in
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: and take your line and walk back to the bank.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: Was it was that in the studio the cocaine trade
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: sat on the board at all times. He kept these
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: old school musician niggas. They love that shit. This nigga
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: over there whipping his in a little jar, hitting the
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: fucking pipe in front of everybody. They this brought over
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: here snorting eighty five lines. And you know what I'm saying.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: But how you working around? Now? I'm nineteen years old, nigga.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: That shit was fun. I found myself in the movie.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I was. I was looking at the movie writing about it. Now.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: In the Mother you see it, there was some ball
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of ship. Back then, we wouldn't look see. We didn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: know the effects of crack until the fine brawls that
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: was walking down the street that you said used to
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: be and turning the monster. He turned the monsters. We
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: didn't know what the effects. It was just like some
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: baller ship because the ball is back in marked they
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: smoked premoles. Yeah, so we're doing that. We're crunching up
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the little rocket and ship and playing around. So that's
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: how I was getting too. So two years of like
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: in that lifestyle. Then I get with ed Bohannan crew.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: And then niggas is them niggas that go somewhere and
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: pick up like a thing. And then after they finished
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: putting it here and there, it's all this leftover shit
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: dusts everywhere, and that I'm like the ship that they
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: would these niggas will washed down the sink and some
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: ship that the other niggas will party on all night
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: and then niggas be like they've they've done. They got
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the properties back that they thought all this shit down
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the sink, just like they weren't that nigga they were
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: smoke weed, but they was like they wasn't getting too drunk.
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: They wouldn't. They wouldn't getting different mentality niggas if you
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: if you as a snorter or any of that shit,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: they'd be like, but I don't even hang around us.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: They didn't like that shit. They just they despised that
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: whole little usage of cocaine. So around them, I've seen
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna be the eyeball or be like the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: goofball nigga and just and be like I'm the user
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in the crew. I'll just cut that shit out of
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: my life all the one on one and shouldn't let
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: it go fuck it. I remember I started sucking with
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: ten and then at eighty seven, and uh, I just
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: kind of like just shook all that ship because that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: ain't how they rolled and then it was um one
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: nigga in his crew. My niggah was the only one
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: who was loud and clear in front of everybody. Blah
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: blah blah. He still he's tell storing the ship and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: he lied with it and just everything. But the boss
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: he got money so he could do that. And then
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: I went to his house to watch the super Bowl
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty eight. I will never forget this fucking day.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: A whole crew over there. We watched the super Bowl.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: I Chris at his house. He was being a little
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: more loose with it, and he was a higher up
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: in the crew, so he wasn't really like being judged
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: by the rest of him. That was just his style.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So I like, I'm gonna hint this ship. I took
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: a one on one and ain't got the sweating. I ain't.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I ain't touched the ship probably like eight months or something.
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: I got the sweating. I ain't telling nobody what I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: was going through. I went in the bathroom. Now, nigga
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: sweating buckets. I'm looking in the mirror like fuck like, like, nigga,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: what the fuck does this do? Like now, Nigga, like
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: on the toilet with the toilet see clubs like, like, fuck,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, didn't they gonna end up
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: in his motherfucker like you know that that prairie Like, God,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: let me get through this shit. I'm thinking, I'm thinking
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: my heart going wrong, all kind of shit. I come
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: out that bathroom. You couldn't give me no cocaine for
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: fucking twenty years after that, I like, fuck all that
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: shit that was. That was my lesson learning I was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I was cool? Was one of them hot doses, man,
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: you know exactly. That was cure. I have no idea
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: but that that that was enough for me. Just getting
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: around and conditioning of some players and ballers. That was
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: that that look down on that lifestyle and then and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: then hitting it back again and hell no like that.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: That's see you're talking about some not only legendary deep boys,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: but seeing Nicks wound up being the one that put
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: all yuck in them. Yeah, exactly, putting up down the
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: loom for everybody here. And I can see that. You know,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you say he was a little bit more outspoken. I'm saying, yeah,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Chris was loud while he had the long ass hair
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: and the like it was why yeah, man, So y'all
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: out there on smash pretty much. No, man, y'all got
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: the thing going because I know it didn't hit that
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: lake vrp ricords. They had to take everything because you
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: know I talk and that's what he talked about. You said, Man,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: I remember short and I'm just to come on here
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: with a thowsand tapes, and we bought all thoughs and
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: the motherfuckers and he'd be up the road somewhere. Was
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: just trump like, like just you knew the people you
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: could drop them off with, come back and get it later.
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: You knew the people that would just buy them out right,
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: And then I knew the little one stops that are
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: shipping out to the other stories of people I didn't know.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: We just knew that managed to literally brod I ain't
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: gonna life. I had nothing to go on on how
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: to run this business except drug dealing. So basically we
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: looked at everything like it was the cop you flipped
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the ship. You make your profit, you save your real money,
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: you flipped the ship. That's how I didn't even know
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: how to think about the ship any other way. And
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: literally that's what we did. We we just was selling dope.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: I haven't called the ship dopee music. It was that
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: that was this mentality because there was a lot of
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: dude who was out the trunk back and then even
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: down here. Yeah, I say the Todd and Spade and
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: all in. We had a few dudes no matter how much,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: no matter how much motherfucking money I made off music
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and I was getting it. I was never the nigga
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: in the crew, you know, the niggas with the money.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: I would never got up where they was at. Never
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: they had too much shit that so man, so y'all
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: rolling up, Man, I want you to go back to
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: that exact moment, man, when we shot Rickards called, y'all
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: want to know how you know, how was you feeling?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Man like? Job wasn't really like. It wasn't like niggas
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: was jumping for joy and like happy because of the
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: label called It's nineteen eighty eight. When I got the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: call from Job, we've been running this boy to Mac,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about to put another album together. I was.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: I was about to put the life It's too Short
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: together and just keep doing what I do. And Chide
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: called and it wasn't It was never about the money
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: they was offering. It was it wasn't even about a
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: label deal. It was really like, I'm like, Okay, these
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: are the motherfuckers that put out Kumo D, Whodini who else?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: They ahead at the time, because that was enough right
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: there for me though, because Kumo D was top dog,
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: that Kumodi was top dog and who then he got
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: a damn right when they signed me. They signed they
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: signed Bookie Down Productions, they signed me, they signed will Smith,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: French Prince, and they was you know, they were just
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: into it. It was it was going there, you know.
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: So I'm like, and I think it was a good choice.
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: I've had a lot of the good artists back then.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Jibe was it was the right type of label for
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: what I was doing because they wasn't really like Death
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: Jam was like no at all, Like I would have
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: went over to death Jam signed up and rust on
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: them would have probably been manipulating me to pushing me
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in a certain direction and convince me because they know
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: more than me, like do this, do that, and they'd
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: have made a nigga like like be some kind of
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: superstar and some ship. And I was like, nah, nigga,
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: I'm a nigga that to do a show for twenty
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: five thousand people and walk right the fuck off the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: stage into the crowd. Now not back to the backstage,
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: right to the motherfuck crowd and start working with the
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: people in the crowd and don't give a fuck, Like
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: literally walked through the whole Damn Marina and death Jam
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: wouldn't let me. They wouldn't let me do that thing.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Deaf Jam is like, you gotta have you gotta be
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: a superstar, you gotta be, can't be, you know, would
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: over project, They like, you want to be a pimp,
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: We're gonna make you super pimp and some ship. But
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I was stous and extras speaking of the pimp and left.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Apart from that, man, I got ask as I always
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, you were ever really a fucking
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: pen So the dream was, you know, your parents would
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: be like, I need you to go do something productive
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: in the world, and then you're rebelling with the hip
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: hop shit, nobody believing that the ship gonna work. So
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: my backup plan was always I think I could break
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: a home. I think I could do this shit, so
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I never had to do it out of necessity. But
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: later in life, shit just start happening. Man, like my homies,
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: who really pimp and that I've been hanging around my
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: whole life. It's funny to them, and some of them
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: even would get mad at me for not taking advantage
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: because we'd be in a moment and some bit should
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: be star struck on too short, But then she's a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: real hole and she'd be hitting like, nigga, what out
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: I would? I would, if you know what I'm saying,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: And then I just kind of like shake it out.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: They're like, Brad, you fucking up like you could be
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: the biggest pimp out here, and I'm like, look at
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: if I'm the biggest pimp out here and I'm making
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: two short records, I'm going to jail niggah incrimination instantly.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: So I had a little thing that I would do. Man,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: It's just like I just give my my feet wet
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: a little bit. Like I felt like if I had
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: to tell a bitch to go Hope for me, then
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: I'm doing too much. But if I Hope came to
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: me and said I fuck with you and just be
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: giving me money, then I'm like, I fucked with you too.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: And I knew how to play the role, and I
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: purposely like all the bitches that that got down with
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: me for however long they got down. If if they
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: think back on it'd be like this motherfucker never did
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: used to ask me for the money like a pimp.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: You'd be like, bitch, what you got. I would just
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: be like, you know, the moment we see each other,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: you know what, you know what the transaction is. But
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna be like, oh that's all
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: you got, or I'm just I'm taking it like you
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: tell you. They're like, oh shit, break, but then you know,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: I living it's a ten years man. It's it's it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: differently when when a bitches like a wild cat out there,
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: like really on the proud every day, six seven days
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: a week and she just getting working. That's that's that's
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: a job for you. It sounds like she's doing all
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: the work. But I promise you, I promise you. Uh,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: if you had two bitches running routes every day, you
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: can't really do much else with your life except tending
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: them two bitches, because it's that much of a job
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: just keeping them on track. Uh. I mean, Luckily, in
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: some situations it's worth it because if you got if
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: each one of them brows is making fifteen twenty a
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: month and they're giving it all to you and just
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: just you and them two brows and phody. Jesus, it's
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a nice, nice lifestyle, you know. So um, I just can't.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: I can't deal with Like, Okay, I go do I
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: go do a weekend as concerts. I'm getting, you know,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: ten racks for a club, fifteen twenty for these big
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: radio shows. Different ship, and I'm going out like every
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: weekend doing something. And then he'll go to bitch, she
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: running like five racks a week. But the bitches like
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: stressing me the fuck out, like like she got rights
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: in my life for what the fuck? Like, bitch, call
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: it phoning the money. What you're doing, I'm just sitting there.
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: Oh you're just sitting on your ass while I'm out
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: here running from the police, like bitch, fuck you. You
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So like it gets to the
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: but she really wanted that. No, they'd be thinking more
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: than that. They'd be thinking like they'd be thinking other
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: shit too, Like they were like, I'm a whole for
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: two years and then this They're gonna marry me, I
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: have a family. They'd be thinking all kind of shit,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: like it's always a it's always there's always a goal
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: at the end. You ain't even gonna get her a
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: whole right, If you don't get her a goal, there's
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: gotta be a goal. So I just learned that man
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that that old fucking therapist shit, and then fucking four
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: in the morning call with a drunk, crazy bitch talking
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: shit ain't worth it ain't worth the bitch coming in
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the door saying, look, I stole the rolex and then
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: hit a niggas safe for fifteen thousand. That should make
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: you feel good at the moment, but it ain't worth
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: it in the long run, when I'm sitting out here
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: fucking I got me a jod ass hustle and a
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: bitch getting mad and say, uh oh, I've been vice.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Would like to know what you really do, like bitch,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: the bitch just pushing buttons. But at the same time,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: what if the bitch did go down to the motherfucking's vice,
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: like make up some wild ass story. Goddamn change, very
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: pimp take though, So it was a chance I didn't
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: want to take. So like I said, Like I said,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Like I said, I avoided this shiit skillfully. I h
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: some niggas laughed it off, thought it was funny. Other
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: niggas was like, Nigga crazy for not indulgent. But I
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: think I made the right choice. It wasn't It wasn't
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: what I wanted to do full time, so I couldn't
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: do it part time. At the end of the day,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you got all these records to what you're talking about,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: you pimping and the broad hand of the vice. They
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: could say, oh, we got the mag of the motherfucker.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: You know how they do that. Your story on the
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: motherfucking record right there. I was at the NBA All
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: Star and this just hole came up to me and
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: she was just talking and shit and which she was
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: a whole I guess, and she was talking to her
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: out of pocket whatever. But the bitch was saying something
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: to me about pimping and hoeing, and I just was,
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: you know, it's a flyassy fitters whatever. I'm like, I'm like, look,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: I don't you know, I'll be making records and shit,
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: I ain't really like out here pimping, no house. And
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: she said, what she's like, Nigga, I thought you was
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: a color She looked chick out something that lady, guess what,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: this nigga a real pimp. So I went these gangster
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: as niggas and this bitch get to like like two
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: three sentences into some like disrespectful shit, and niggas is like, bra,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this one time. Man, get that bitch. Man,
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: just get her. She was she was hurt, She was hurt,
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: her feelings was hurt. That the reality of of of
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: what they depict as you as an artist and what
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: they hear on the music, it confuses a lot when
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: everybody look at it like that, if I'm wrapping the ball,
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: killing and beating them up, puckers, this is what reception
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: of you is. They feel you live that life. So
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: ain't nothing wrong with with pimping, part time pimping, or
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: or just you know, stagnating in the pimping game. You know,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'm here, I'm there, I got some bitches and it
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: is what it is. But I can't live like that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: The Spice One went on his first tour niggas like Nigga,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: let me said, how gangs you are, honey? When DJ
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Quick on his first two that Nigga had to fight
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: every crypt in America. Yeah, yeah, definitely. It's sometimes like
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: I said, sometimes the fans will test your motherfucking abilities
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and ship when you I mean you do in certain ways.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: But I could say when we went on tour Um,
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: we really didn't get fucked with that much by a
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: lot of cats. I mean, you know, whether it was
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: crips or bloods or niggas from a lot of different sections.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: First time the NWA went to San Diego, it was
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: like a blood thirst. It's like it's nothing but blood's
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: out here. I mean, shit, the first time we went
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to watch shit. First time I went to motherfucking a
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: flagstaff or Phoenix or something like that. Not Phoenix but
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: something else. Oh my god. They said, oh my god.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: When I'm talking about nigga cave about the dressing room
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: and our asses come down there. We get those stage
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: curtain clothes, we got our blue head to toe and shit,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: when I'm talking about they pulled that curtain back and
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: it was a motherfucking arena and all we saw was rich.
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: I'm talking about girls with red rag belts on and
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: borets and combs and everything. I was like, oh my god, God, damn,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: he was paid, got paid everything. They it was cool
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: as they still want to bag. Oh they're gonna let
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: you perform, and I ain't just telling my blood. It's
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: crips to same situation. They're gonna let you perform, but
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: as soon as your motherfucking ass get through performing, believe it,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the niggas at the back door ready because they don't
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: want to know. Because you gotta remember this dog, you
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: gotta nigga that's sitting at home all day and he
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: don't took his bitch to the show with him, right,
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: She's sitting around all day talking about whoa but the
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: hell of a nigga you wheels, And so he'd go there.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: He about to try to show all the front of
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: that bix, like to show you this niggame nigga, Like
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: me here rapped nigga, I'm a real nigga. So you know,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: it's a whole bunch of situations like that, you know,
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: speaking a gangster ship short, we are called against the chronicles, man.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: So you're going through this period man with these guys.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Things is going good, man, y'all out there're selling a
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: lot of records, man, and then and they selling a
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: lot of dope at the same time. A lot of
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: dope's being so the same time. So at some point
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: y'all have the separation and we were got a good uh,
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: we got a good five year run, like from we
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: ran from eighty seven to about ninety three. But we
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: got a good running and it just, you know, Minutes
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: to Society the movie started the end of our little
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: click that clicked with Ted bow Hand, and then it
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: was it was I don't know if it was just time,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: but then it always we look back on these situations,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you go, this ship was so small compared to what
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: the big picture was. What but I do minutes Society.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: And we got a company together. We run Dangish Music.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: We had a company from partners in the company and
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: he got a He got a pretty good return on
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: his money because the initial investment, you know, bought him
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: in as a partner, and we made a lot of
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: money as a company because we started signing other artists too,
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: and it was going real good. And we all did
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: our part. You know, even even though Ted was in
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: the streets, he was truly all the way into the label.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: And we was we made all all decisions. We ran
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: this ship and I went to do Minutes to Society.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: And then mind you, we fall out as a crew,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: different members of the crew, we fall out. We whatever
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: we all get it back. That's my niggas now. It's
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: always been that way. And Chris came down to La. Yeah,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: he came down. He uh, he came and sniffed around
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: the set and just you know, just pulled up on
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the motherfucking shit and you know, we all good and
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: shit and Chris that MINS Society they paid me like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: sixty racks or some shit something like that. And I remember, um,
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: I got the check and it was like thirty racks.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: They just took the automatically took the shit out. I
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: got a I got a thirty thousand dollars check to
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: be in Mins Society. Wasn't really it was the movie. Look,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: it wasn't took the money on. You know, this check
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: came to me. It's some shit. I went and did
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: as I'm not making music, it was. It was for
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: being in the movie. So I'm not making music. That's
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: not a part of my music thing. And nothing that
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: just went got a little side hustle and did the ship.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: So Chris went back and said that they He told
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Teddy he was like, you know, he did probably did
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: the hype voice. He didn't love something something and then
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: ted hits me up. It was like yeah, man, we
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: heard you. I got a hundred racks and you know, shit,
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: I mean you ain't doing the business right and blah blah.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, that's we We got a music company.
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Like if I if I was to go off and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: be an actor or something, I'm not giving y'all percentages
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: that shit. This stop music. So so Ted's my nigga.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: We loved once to this day. We had a long
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: fall out, but we loved once to this day. And
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: he said to me at some point he said, well,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: fuck it, man, uh just just just send me my check.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Like like he kind of like tapped out, like I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: don't fuck with y'all on and kind of like tack down.
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, just send me my money. So before I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: could get into that, you know, I'm I got you know,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: we got niggas, got cruis, We got different niggas you
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: fucked with all around the city. So I got some
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: of the wild bunch of niggas I'll run with who
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: I really hang out with, because telling them they was
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: always on the safe side of laid back. They didn't
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: really like club and a lot and all that. So
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: I had my little wild bunch that I run around
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: with and I'm like, I'm consulting in my niggas. I'm like, man,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: niggas said, you know, just give him his money. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: then niggas just kind of fall back and don't really participants.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: So we look at me, look at this shit like
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: that's like pimping to me. Like, Nigga, I'm gonna kick
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: back at home, go get my money and bring my
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: money back, bitch, so let me say. Let me when
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: you say give me my money to share the company
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: want to He was like, if you're gonna keep your
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: hunt down from the movie, which I told him, theiggata
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: say they gave me thirty it is my money. Whatever.
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: So he said, you're gonna keep the money, then Nigga,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I ain't fucking blah blah blah. And then I'm like, well,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: damn Bronas always some good. I'm like, man, I can't, like,
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: I can't work and pay you a percentage and you're
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: not hustling with me. I just guy, can't do that.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: So then the ship it got. It was one little
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: gangster moment and now the money at the same time
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: my niggas that I'm running with, it gets real complicated.
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: In like ninety three ninety ninety three. My niggas aren't
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: running with are now if involved in a murdered death killed,
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: all out war with niggas that's affiliated with tied, so
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: tarding them. They tell me one day they like, they like,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: if we see them and you win them, we ain't
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: gonna try to miss you. That we all hanging out
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: eating eating something, chopping it up, smoking, we we music niggas,
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: and and the niggas say, if we see you with them, bron,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: trying to miss it, ain't gonna be no special treatment.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: So it shit start getting real political for me. So
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: then when that that part happened, so the party happened
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: where he said we just give my money to shit
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: just started falling apart. So um E forty did this
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: uh yearly picnic out the way out there where they
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: from Fairfield valeout and we go to the E forty
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: picnic and we just happened to like you know, we
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: got we got mob d whatever whenever, whenever, whatever. But
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: on this day we go out there phone niggas in
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: one car and one pistol. So and the pistol was
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: my pistol. So I got the little strap on me
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: had like a little clock on them and then uh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: we pull up in the park. We weren't even tripping
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: on Like did you just always have a strap? We
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: wasn't tripping on that. Um we gotta have a strap.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even have thought. But then we pull up
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: on a Ted and them at the picnic. It's it's
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a big ass part. It's thousands of motherfuckers out here
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: like it's hat and we pull up on ten and
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: them and they worked this little like this little maneuver
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: like uh, kind of spread out a little bit, and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: these nigga like money niggas and shit, like you got
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: the little street niggas and shit, but it's like niggas
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: in like money more. We're going to the forty picnic.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: We ain't really like coming to this motherfucker for a
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: fighting that knowledge shit. And uh, they start it kind
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: of like the approach and shit. They come over me
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and here telling me the whole shit like kind of
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: like kind of kind of checking, you know what I mean.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And I was with one of the homies. Uh he
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: was like before we walked the phone and he was like,
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: give me that strap. So he plot plot and Ted
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: to talk a little bit and he's like, man, we
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: ain't really trying to hear all this shit right now. Man,
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: nigga ain't gonna give you nothing, and it ain't gonna
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: be like that or whatever the fuck and niggas say
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: because they was like the niggas is like like up,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they got angles on it, all kind of shit. And
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: niggas say, you could tell these niggas to do anything
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: you want to hear. He said all put he showed
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: him the strap. He's saying, He saying, all I know
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: is I go, fuck what they do of killing you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: out here, and all the niggas stood down. Later we
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: went and enjoyed the picnic and nobody had no problem
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: with nobody. I think. Later on at the end of
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: the picnic, they tried to catch one of my rapper homies, Goldie,
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: and and sent him through some dramas and shit chased
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: him up out of there or something caught of walking
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: to his car. Chasing That's all that happened, and fucking
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: um from their own you know. I basically uh tied,
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: kind of calmed down a little bit. We talked after
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: a while and it was like, you know, brother, it's
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: just uh, it's already in the in the contract. We
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: got together as partners that we just disaw the company
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: and you take your cut and keep it pushing. So
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: I had two partners back then, Randy that which was
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: Dean's cousin and tied. Jerry had fault. He fell out
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: way back, way down the line. We lost Jerry, the
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: little brother. We lost him. He didn't he didn't have
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: a house. He mad at me right now, love me
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: like a brother, but stay mad at me. But the politics. Brother.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So then I literally just it was probably when I
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta, I broke teed off something. You know,
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: this this the company. I brought Randy off, saving the company,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: and I just changed the whole shit. And I ain't
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: looking back since. So it was, you know, it was
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: supposed to happen. Now, we could have liked Chris, the
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: whole ship, the politics, it could have been without that shit. Man.
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: But you know, so pretty much just the average nigga
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: till a nigga running back talking about some shit you
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: don't know, telling somebody something kicked up, a whole bunch
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: of dis man. I made way more money. I made
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: way more money after that than I did before before
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: all that shit. If the best for jet to come.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: They had no idea. I was when they're gonna run
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: and they jumped ship. So it's cool she didn't know
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: me happening. Carmos a motherfucker. I mean, you know, Nigga
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: could have fell off fact of that, or it could
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: have been you know whatever. James often we had them conversations, man,
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: because it all goes back and this is old step
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: and it all goes back to CNAs coming down pretty
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: much almost like would intend to just kicking up starting
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: some ship. But that kind of was his personality. We
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: just wasn't suposed to. It wasn't supposed to get that serious.
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: You know. I got on the phone and say, bra
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I really got thirty racks explained to him as money
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: could have been like we's getting money from different shit,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Like it could have been like the thing is this, bro,
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we got a podcast together. Right, If James go out
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: there tomorrow and they say, man, we want to book
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: you to play this part of the thing, he could
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: get the million dollars me and they can't coming him
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: like James, Man, what's up? We need to cut of that.
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: You know that don't make no sense that what I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: tell you when you shared that if if if they
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: take me, they don't take all three, they ain't. I'm
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: not talking about I'm saying that sh fuck that ship still.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: If I can't get out of that part, the cold
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: part of about you. You have what we call clicks,
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: the homies kicking it. But then at the end of
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: the day, before we get rich, somebody fall off the motherfucker.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: Because now we're thinking, damn, I see this nigga, count
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: this money. I went to the bathroom. I know he
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: puts him in his pocket. That's how we think right now,
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: we're thinking all fucked up. Now if she got I
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: wonder if he got more than I got, if he
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: got more than I watched that ship with with with
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: with Shugar and his company, with all these different motherfuckers
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: that was in it, how people was mad on how
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: much money they was making and what they wouldn't getting,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: and it fused everything up. We can't work together. That's
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: why I tell him, Gangster Chronicle is gonna work together. Brian,
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: come to this motherfucker. Now, y'all ain't gotta pay me.
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: I'm just working with y'all. But ship, we all fen
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: to get the check. We all gonna eat, and we
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: don't have to. But the ones that didn't want to
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: be there work their way out the situation definitely, and
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: and it's just like it's a cycle shutting down. So
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: when I look back on all this shit, though, I
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: go on like runs, like it's just run. We get
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: a run, I get a run in with a group
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: of people, and we get a bag, and we're on
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: that run, and it's gonna come to an end, and
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: some of us gonna stay friends for life, and some
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: of us gonna forget each other and we're gonna let
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: me see each other again, and just we gotta run.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I could have been it's been so long now. I
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: mean I could have been best friends with a motherfucker
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: for three years, and from ninety eighty nine to ninety
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: two we're best friends. I don't even remember that motherfucker
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: right now. It's been that. It's been that many places
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and faces and set up shops, and you know what
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, Real motherfuckers don't come and go like that.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, when they fake and shit, they they they
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: gonna come and go. Real motherfuckers should be around. If
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: y'all got the same agenda, y'all trying to reach the
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: same motherfucking destination. But fake motherfuckers, they just want to
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: get in. At that point, John jump on a motherfucking
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: train and then jump off when there's another, when it's
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a better situation. Let me ask you a question. Short,
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be message, we ain't want to
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: play the shows, but that situation wouldn't have enough to
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: do with the reason why I see you next. You
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: got the ass with water. See it's all related, but
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: it's all related. But what happened after that? So I
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta basically because niggas that I knew in
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: love was killing the funk out each other and it
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: wasn't coming to the end. It was like, really the
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: small ass city like just it's like probably like if
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: a war was going on in Compton that had nothing
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to do in La and it's like a competent thing.
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: It's like a straight East Oakland thing and it's a
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: fucking war. And the city is so small you can't
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: even really like get gash. You can't you can't use
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: a phone booth, you can't motherfucking stop by your auntie
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: husse because never everybody know everything, know where the fuck
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: you be. So niggas is getting it like a nigga
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: who you know. You know, the niggas stay on the defense.
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: But somebody walked up to his car and shot him.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Who fucking walk up to your car shot you somebody?
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: You fucking know you stay on the defense and niggas
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: just walk up and shoot you in the car. That's
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: somebody you fucking knew that. It started being like that,
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: and it's like I just felt like, I'm like, man,
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: the way this is going, I'm like, because niggas is
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: like niggas in homicide fucking serial killer mode. This niggas
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: out there is like I'm trying to get away with
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: a lot of murders right now. I'm trying to kill
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: everybody I don't like. And then they bunch of them
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: niggas is rolling the streets and I'm like, damn, somebody
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: I know it's probably gonna kill me, and it's just
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: gonna be like whatever reason, fuck you up because you
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: hang out with them niggas or something. I'm like, man,
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: I signed that land up. I'm like, man, I'm I'm
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: fucking about to go kicking where they're having the party
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: they this ninety three having the freak nigga Jack the
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: rapper Nigga. The police in Oakland is like, wearing me
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: the fuck out. I ain't got no license. He nigga,
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: stop me. Every time they see me. They handcuff me,
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: searching me, arresting me, releasing me, just fucking with me
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and fucking I go to Atlanta, the police is like it,
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: what's up, too short? I'm like, nigga killing as harassing
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: as shit. I'm enjoy too. It's like when you go
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: down there, man, it kind of makes you feel good
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: because you go down there, you go to a restaurant,
• 53:26
  Speaker 1: you see a black woman in the kitchen actually making
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: your soul, getting my people. I love everybody, but this
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: is just the soulfus. But it was it was a
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: different look to see that in the nineties. It was
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: just a different just to see everything just black and
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: the police, everybody just just it was black love. So
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: I get down to Atlanta. It's ninety four, the beginning
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: that I'm moved to my house, like right at Christmas
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: ninety three. So it's ninety four. I'm in Atlanta and
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: the Looney's who pretty much all the ship that was
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: going down musically either was was inspired by us or
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: you know, somehow you got the game that I the
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: game that I got from Dean. I get a game
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: to the whole fucking city. I gave everybody the game
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: on how you fucking this is what you do. You
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: gotta get your shit man, You gotta go get the
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: man faith. You gotta take it over here to sell it.
• 54:15
  Speaker 1: I told everybody the game. If you can get you
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a rapper, if you can find a deep way with
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: some money, I'll show y'all how to do it. Chris
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: did the fucking formula. They all did the fucking formula.
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: A whole bunch of niggas. And Chris had brought the
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: looneys around a while ago. Drew Down, his first album
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: was made in my studio by Ant Banks. So I'm like,
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: I never got a dime off drew Down album. I
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: never got a dime from a banks for that. I
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: never got a dime from studio time. That was the homie.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: You know you know what I'm saying. That's it was Chris.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: Artists use the studio ahead. Yeah, banks paid banks and
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: look it up. So the looneys come out with this
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: fucking song called player Hater, and the song says it's
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: somehow shit about some hater asked motherfucker and be like
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: and it's all I said, that's why the town got
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: rid of short And I'm like, these the little homies.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: I'm like, y'all niggas can't say that. And the radio
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: station played it a lot, they put it in rotation.
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: So I had a song I dropped called Cocktails, and
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Cocktails was getting a lot of love. The video was dope.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: It was getting love everywhere. All the cities that was
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: loving me, Detroit, Chicago, they wouldn't play it. The Bay
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: radio station wouldn't play Cocktails. And I cornered them. I'm like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: you know, so, what's the reason why you want to
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: spending They're like, well, you know, we're more into supporting
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: the local artists, which was some bullshit there was. I
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: don't know why they turned on me, but it was like,
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: we're more supporting the local artists. And you moved Atlanta,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: so it's kind of like you out of sight, you
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: out of mind, and you know it's nothing personal, but
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: we just we just promote the local scene. So that
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: was that was the beginning ninety five. So the Summer
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: Jam ninety five, I'm mad now because they didn't they
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: didn't support my record. The radio station used to call
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: us when they needed some a good look in the community.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: They call us. They called niggas like me and be like,
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: can you be a part of this event, so the community,
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: you know, we're down. It's a radio station. Came me
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: on one of six, but they used to be a
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: rock station in the eighties. So when they started doing
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: hip hop and ship people, was like still on the
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: other station, cass Oil, and they had to kind of
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: like do some things that win them over. So people
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: like me showing up to the events helped them start
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: getting listeners, helped them just get a you know, certified
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: in the hood. So I was mad at they played
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: the song. Then I was mad that they didn't play
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: my song. So I pull up to the Summer Jam
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: and fucking um, I just pull up there, you know,
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: and no credentials, nothing, and they like, I performed at
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: the previous two summer jams, so they like, we'll give
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: them some passes. They gave me four passes if they
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: fucked around the game. Stick on passes. Every time we
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: walked in there, phone niggas every time we walked in there.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: One of the homies went out with the with the
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: fall passes and came back in with three new niggas.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: We did that ship. We got like fifty niggas up
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: in there by the time. By the time they realized
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: what we had done that they wanted starting negotiating and
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: ask us we all cool, y'all, like, nigga, we ain't
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: leaving back out, like you know what, what what's up? Ain'tyone?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm I'm calming them down. We ain't here
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: to do nothing. Man, all you gotta do is you
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: got the whole bay area out there. You got to
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: walk me and the Loonies out there and tell the
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: motherfucking bay that ain't no motherfucking beef because they turned
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: the ship into like like the Loonies was so young
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: and gangster that they literally pulled up on me. Was like, no,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: you gotta move by to Oakland, nigga like that. That's
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: what the That's what the word went that. I was like,
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna fight whatever your rumor is. I'm just
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: just standing up and tell the bay that a number
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: love between the Loonies and me. Because immediately after the
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: ship came out, they was like, man, we was just
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: mad and it wasn't even like that because you we
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: thought you was gonna sign us. Or or the day
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: when it was over the rapping one of my little
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: rappers one day and we all hiped it like like
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: the Looney's Loss and rap around in one it was
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: feelings hurt. It was like a lot of shit. So
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: that's the story Chris was saying the day at the
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: summer Jam, he was trying to explain it to us,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: the story about about how they looked up to me
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: and I heard they feelings and they made the song
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: because it was you know, they was mad. But then
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: one of my homies was in the room that we
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: chopping up, chopping it up with and a lot of
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: niggas don't know that the backstory, but the homie and
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: Chris was fucking the same broad at some point in time,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: and the broad told the broad told the other homie,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: not Chris. She told the other homie that Chris said,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know why you fuck with
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: them broadcast niggas, or why you're sucking that broadcast nigga,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you know, like like he got more money than the
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: nigga pillow talking, which is always be checking some ship
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: when you're sitting there telling the bitch while you're laying
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: sideways something bad about the next nigga. Somehow the ship
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: always get back to the nigga. So so the homie
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: was like Christ's just talking story. We kind of like
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: we was trying to work out the thing where we
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: could walk on stage and shit, and the homies just
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: sitting there twitching and ship looking at Chris Child's fucking
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: story about the loonies, uh being Phyllis, hurt and ship.
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: And then he just yelled out, they ain't about all
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: that fucking shit Chris and just two pieces in the
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: ship and kicked him in. They turned the story and
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: then we jumped him in some ship. But really it
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: was all emotional. The nigga was all he was only
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: mad about the bitch and with the bitch said he
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: had been mad about that ship. And I liked the
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: other version of the story because they go out a
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: lot and make it seem so gangious, like we wrote
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: him to the concert, Vintide dragged the nigga, beat him down,
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: and shit did not happen. It didn't have. The radio
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: station tried to um to do a slander campaign on
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: me after after the concert, and they tried to say
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: they put the story out there. We did all this shit,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: like we came up like like like start a ride,
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: and they shut the showdown early. It was supposed to
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: be like two more groups that went on. E forty
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: didn't didn't get to go on that night. They tried
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: to start some ship between me and forty. All this shit,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: all this shit came from the whole. It's all like
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: a domino effect. Like literally the reason why me and
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: E forty make a million songs right now to this
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: day is because of that concert and that incident and
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the fact that the radio station tried to turn us
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: against each other. And we've been homing to some motherfucking alone.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: E forty and his brother and my nigga P and
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: all the niggas from Oakland, the LAO niggas. Oakland niggas
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: just all sell dope together and have been family and
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: friends blown before the radio station tried to turn me
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: and E forty against each other. They're like a radio
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: station tried to try to get into like like the
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: whole other side of like get involved in some street
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: shit and like and canceled me out of some shit
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: they thought they was gonna turn forty on me, and
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: then Forty and his crew they big inside of something.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: They just gonna smash me. I don't know what the
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: fuck they thought. I don't know. And then they thought
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: that they was gonna tell people because they the radio
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: station to stop supporting Too Short. But I'm like, I'm like, Nigga,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: even though y'all ain't playing my record, the whole damn
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Bay Area bought the fucking record and everybody loving the
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: fun album like you can't you can't take a street
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: artist like I don't like ninety two point three to be,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: couldn't take a street artist and say, la, don't listen
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to this artist no more, like we don't listen to
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: this thing because he on a radio, you know what
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And I was like, I was like, yo,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: I made songs about that ship on my next album.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: It's called That's Why the Town Got Rid of Short.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: That's the name of the song. And they tell you
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: the whole fucking story, and I and the story. I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: told the fucking truth. And literally I put the album
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: out that was was that the fucking getting an album?
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: I put the song out of Everybody shut up, nobody
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: starts talking, nobody talking about it no more. It could
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: nobody dispeat what I said in the story. I put
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: everybody's fucking name, and I told the whole goddamn story
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: about the thirty thousand, the movie. It's all in the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: the song, and to this day, nobody can dispute what
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the fuck happened, like there is no other version of
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: the story. And let me ask you this man, And
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: we could wrap it up in a minute, but we're
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: sitting there with too short. This is about ask Yeah,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: you do your research, you go back to shit. I
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: don't even know, you know, because this is against the chronicles. Man.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: So we got to talk about some stuff that's going
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: on now the streets. Man. What do you feel about
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the political climate now? Man? What's going on with black
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: American man? Just in general? All right, well, well he
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: probably not the interrupt, but he kind of spoke on
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier when he said ship the
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: police was always fuller, the nigga over and all that. So,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: you know, just trying to kind of elaborate on that
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: shit of how it really ain't nothing changed. But you know,
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: the thing that we're dealing with now is you gotta realize, right,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: now that from the intro a crack. When you found
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: out how Freeway, Freeway Rick was all in that circle
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: of the ship with the fucking war they was funding
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: and the CIA was was letting the dope land in La.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: You think about that ship, and um, you think about
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: the Dave Ronald Reagan said I declare war on drugs,
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: and they came with to just say no. And it
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: was like this whole scare tactic campaign about the you know,
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the scary criminals in the inner cities and shit. So
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: then then we got the crack. Now, I know, in
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: nineteen whatever, the fun eighty whatever, when they fucking start
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: free basing cocaine. What, no motherfucking nigga went and spent
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: one hundred dollars on some powder and said, she I'm
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: a poort this shit into a bottle of water and
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: let's set it on fire and make it into a rock.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: That shit is some chemistry ship. That ship is some
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: science ship. And when the crack was economically broken down
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: to be affordable in the ghetto, and the ship was
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: given to people like Freeway Rick just you know, like
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: just here you free to select man. All that ship
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: was one big fucking setup bron The ship was a
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: setup to where you know, you know, the gangs I
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: don't even know where wrapped the gags would have winning.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: If it wasn't for crack, they wouldn't they wouldn't have
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: turned into crack gangs. Gangs would have been they probably wouldn't,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I'm saying, They wouldn't
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: have been with it what it is, and then bring
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: it out so that all of a sudden we like
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: eighty four eighty five is crack. Thing is jumping off
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: and a couple of years into that ship, now if
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: you got a rock and a fucking gun, they really
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: put you away for a hell along, you know what
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then then they you know, the whole
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: ship with the powder and ship and they you know,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the white waves, it's just song out of powder and ship,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: and they like ain't really stressing them out at all.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: But you can get caught with a gun. It's some
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: powder and you don't get eight thousand years in jail.
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: But if you got a fucking rocking again, your asses out.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: And and then not only so, so not only was
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  Speaker 1: setting all these these situations up for you to get
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: fucked off they was purposely pressing the line in the hood.
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  Speaker 1: So only mostly like on our side, Mexicans and niggas
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  Speaker 1: got it, you know what I'm saying. On the other side,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: Puerto Ricans and niggas got you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: It wasn't They wasn't pressing the line to bust people
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: in the suburbs. It was only fucking with the hood.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: But the city like Oakland, was signed up for the
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: program on the War on crime. So if you if
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: you bust so many people and convict so many people,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: we'll send you more weapons, We'll send you more budget,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: we'll send you more cars. Like you know what I'm saying.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: So they had incentive policing to get the numbers up
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: because they want the good numbers for the war on crime.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: So now they're setting up all these fucking laws. We're
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: in a fucking trap fighting over the hood. We ain't
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: buying the hood. We're killing each other over the block.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: And niggas is just like just we ushered in a
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: whole new era of slavery, modern day slavery, the mass incarceration.
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  Speaker 1: They locked us the fuck up. They locked all our
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  Speaker 1: homies up. Nigga, if your homie got a cold case.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: He wasn't too much different than the homie that got murdered.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: You're like, damn, I ain't finn to see the homie
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: no mog gon. And in nineteen eighty the stats or
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: something like well, Ronald Reagan said war on Crime, it
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: was probably like five hundred thousand people in American jails prisons.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Now it's like over two millions. And all the motherfuckers
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: came from the hood, a whole bunch of blacks and Hispanics,
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: and basically they just like they just they just out
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: tricked us. Bro. We run around here talking a thug
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: life and shit, and we could have been we could
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: have been like the Italian mafia trying our damn this
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: to be drug dealers and pretend not to be cleaning
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: that shut up and around. You know what I'm saying.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: We just we We wrote it out and fucking I
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: want the young homies to know right now that if
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: you're calling it the spot where you sell dope, the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: trap nigga, just listen to the word. It's a fucking trap.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: Like I've seen too many niggas, too many motherfuckers die
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: or get all their youth taken away for that trap
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: and you're sitting there going on there, I mean the trap.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: You're ragging about the trap like we some of us
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: got out exactly, we didn't get the motherfucking twenty years sitties.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: If you ask me, it was all just designed. It's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: a setup, That's all I'm saying right now. It's a setup.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: And we the motherfuckers. If you're from the eighties, you're
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: the motherfucking generation that got set the fuck up the
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: guinea pigs the first one. But how long is you
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: gonna keep falling for the fact that, uh, you know,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: the ship that's gonna get you all that time in jail.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: You know. Let me ask you this because I always
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: to me James talk about voting. James has a certain
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: feeling of both votes. Do you feel like this a
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: voice of time? I feel that shit too, dog? What
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: does it do? I mean, if you really look at
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: vote or not, I can't paign for the cause and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: I support certain ship when I'm like, if I'm like
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: not feeling a certain thing a certain candidate, support the
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: other motherfucker and by doing benefit performances or or a
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: fucking path. What do you feel about this presidential but
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, you can even you can't
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: even include Obama's to two terms. I'm feeling like, man,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: my whole life, I ain't. I ain't seen nothing from
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the presidents except the same exact thing. But it's democratic Republican,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: it's not. It ain't nobody coming through with the campaign
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: premises and making shit fucking happen. So motherfuckers need to
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: stop ripping off of who the fucking president is and
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: start worrying about who the motherfucker's creating the laws that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: fuck with a lot of us. That's what the sent
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: is important. Local politics exactly, like the local politics and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: the Senate really the ship that impact us. What do
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: you think James to be inquired? And I'm looking because
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: I'm listening to Jo, but I mean, like I said,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: everything was a design. He goes way way before the
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: eighties with us, we put ourselves in a situation because
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: the police couldn't infiltrate in this. They had one of
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: us in there to do it. And we got a
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: lot of brothers that sold brothers out back in those days.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: But it's short for the little money that they did give.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: And then they create a program, they create programs should
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: keep you where you at, stagnate you just like with us,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: like when you say, ain't no prither in the house,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: It shouldn't have really mattered if you had the daddy
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: in the house or whatever. With all the ship that
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: was going on, we set back and watched half of
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: the ship crack off go the way it went. You
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that now we're fighting and killing
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: each other over the same ship. These motherfuckers put it here,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like you said, the trap,
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: that's all that shit was. We shit, and we're sitting
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and there getting drunk, ain't paying attention and passing ship
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: through the windows, through the doors, the whole nine. We
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: didn't giving the fuck. But this is what they showed
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: us where we was at, and we we fucked with that.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: That's what we rolled with and we're still doing it
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: right now today. So I mean, yeah, man, you you
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: catch a cold case, you in your young twenties, late teens,
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: and you catch a cold case, you come home at
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: thirty eight, forty years old, and basically they spend all
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: them years working in there for fucking free, for free,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: free labor. Thirty five how many people you lose to them.
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: Cold motherfucker man. There's so many there's so many brothers
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: in prison. That's because we don't know the law. And
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: when they get in there and get to spend the
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: law to you, thinking they've been to helpy, but then
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: at the end of the day they stretch answer. Know
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying is I don't know how to tell
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: the young homies how to preach and be like Brad
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: go straight whatever. I wouldn't listening to nobody when I
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: was young. I'm just like, get your motherfucking money. But
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: it's a lot of shit out here, like it's gonna
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: benefit you more without the fucking penitentiary chances. That's all
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. And do what the fuck you gotta do, whatever,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: but stay the fuck out that prison, bro, And and
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: I just in the law. I say, it's the same.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: Think back to when you was a youngster, and the
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: niggas who rode the hardest, the niggas who rode the hardest,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and the niggasue them little nerd niggas that would never
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: join the fucking game. The niggasu would never come around
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the block. The niggas you come home at thirty eight
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: years old and that little nigga got a fine ass wife,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: beautiful family. Nigga got nice ass cars and ship. You're like,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: you're like that podcast nigga like you like they nigga
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: ben balling, and we ain't too far from you know from,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: because niggas got that that rich dream right now. They
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: see the just wrap shit, the hip hop shit, this
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: ball player shit, and they got that that million they're dream.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: But you ain't. You ain't gonna achieve that unless you
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: apply yourself to something. You gotta put your ten thousand
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: dollars in. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta get some
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: work in. You gotta become an expert at something and
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: and be good at that ship what we say, You
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: just gotta pay your dudes and put in your work
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: and then shit shit eventually, if you get the right
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: you know, the right foundation behind you on the right
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: cuple of group of niggas that can steer you on
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the right path. Like I said, Old Geez used to
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: be set up to try to steer niggas on the
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: right path. For letting niggas stay out. Yeah, keep your kick,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: keep him out of the games, keep him in sports.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: You know, that's what we need, you know. But other
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: than that, man, you just nothing else matters. Man. You
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Shit been flipping the same way
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: for generations. You know what I'm saying. I can say,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: back to when I started running around, shit ain't changed.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: Like James say, you can vote for whatever, take your choice, Democrat, Republican.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, start start peeping
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: out what's going on in your own section, in your neighborhood,
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: your city. Start peeping out the local government, Start peeping
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: out what's happening in the Senate and the people who
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: make the laws, because that's that's what counts. Yeah, I think.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: I think. What I'm trying to say, though, is a
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: it's almost gangster, it's almost real gangster, not to be
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: gangster in the long run, In the long run, you
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: know what, man, it is. And you know when I
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: hear James talk about that, man when here talking to
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: your brothers and out here in the streets. Man, that's
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: what he tells him. He says, Man, it ain't no
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: benefits to it, ain't no pinsion in it. It's just
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 1: you better off. He's doing the right thing. And at
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: this point nobody can remember, like you really go around
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: and just ask motherfuckers like like nigga, who who's your enemy?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: And be like why and then gonna tell you like
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: they kill I'll not be fought at, Like why don't
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: y'all why is y'all hoods enemies? Niggas don't even know
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: why half the wards started. They don't even know. They
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: don't even concern. They just like nigga block that like
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: that Chicago ship. They're like, Nigga, we can't even negotiate.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: They're keeping a tally on bodies. They're like, we can't
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: even negotiate the truths until we like got the same
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: amount of bodies and knocking each other down. Man, it's
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: like man, and like we y'all got it. Y'all up
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: on a sixteen to fourteen nigga, So give me to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: two bodies and we can talk about the truths. Then, well,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: you know the thing, man, one of the things we
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: always talk about man, you know, black lives matter. Man.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 1: If a police officers do something to somebody, we go
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: to these cities with marks. But now if we're did
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: to each other, why not we why we should have
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 1: that same energy? Man for one of them, somebody ride
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: through the hood and knocked down little Tommy. Somebody go
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: up there, knockdown little Lisa. You feel what I'm saying.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: We need to have justified. We are used to killing
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: each other. That's just like like I know you, I'm
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: gonna fight. I'm gonna argue with you. We far gonna
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: argue with these motherfuckers. I don't know. We used to.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: This is what we learned growing up, you know what
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying. So it's a big difference. We rather fight
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: in the house than go out and fight. These white
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: boys just talking about killing us and they home they
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 1: own mother every platform talking about y'all, wait, we're coming.
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be a war if Trump lose, We're gonna
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: were coming at You're real interested to see what happens
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: to this lecture, man, because I don't think old Boy
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: could be the office. I don't think there's enough militia
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: out there to beat up together. That's y'all to be surprised, man,
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: y'all to be surprised with these motherfucker's got if a
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: motherfucker motherfuckers, they they they got some shit. Yeah, I
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: have to order in the city. Everybody in the city
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: standing by, stand down. And stand by the fun man.
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: But you see what he's doing. The the what's the councilman?
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: Chick that the white boys was kidnapping. Yeah, man, they
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: tell out kidnapping and kill him on fuckers because if
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: you ain't, if you ain't on board with rump Man,
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: you're in trouble. But I don't even follow up politics.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: I wish it. What happened one I could have never
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: had in a million years, could have predicted twenty twenty.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: So shit Insten is crazy. Man. It's almost like the
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: apocalypse of Sun but fucking ninety nine years old. So
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no ship like this. Man. Sure, man,
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: you know what. Man, I appreciate you. Man happening as
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: so Man to your beautiful compound. Man giving us a
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: dope interview. Man, Man, you guys, Man, we think y'all
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 1: for coming in. Man tuning into another episode a Gangster Chronicles. Man,
• 1:16:51
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• 1:16:53
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• 1:16:58
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• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: he online. He hollered back. I'm on line. Most of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: us will hit the home too short. Man, Damn short man.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: You know what, Man, can you give him one before
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: we go? Man, I just want I just want here
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: one time. But I gotta say bit right there, appreciate you. Man.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: We out here one still. I got to hear man
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: like a like the he's brushing by that podcasting that
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: was