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Mark interviews NY Post columnist Michael Goodwin. · The Mark Simone Show

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  Speaker 1: Mark's Among, Mr. New York.
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  Speaker 2: Now three hours every weekday from 9 till noon on 710WOR. Well,
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  Speaker 2: the best columnist in America is Michael Goodwin. You can
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  Speaker 2: read him every Sunday, every Wednesday in the New York Post.
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  Speaker 2: All of his columns are up on the New York
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  Speaker 2: Post website. Michael Goodwin, how you doing?
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  Speaker 1: Good morning, Mark. Thank you.
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  Speaker 2: Mayor Mamdani, listen, we know he doesn't like Israel. Not
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  Speaker 2: crazy about the Jews, but apparently he doesn't like the
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  Speaker 2: Italians either. He's now snubbing his third Columbus Day parade
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  Speaker 2: this weekend today. But maybe that's a good thing. Do
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  Speaker 2: we really want him in the Columbus Day parade?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I do think there is a pattern here, of course, Mark.
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  Speaker 3: And he snubbed the Israel Day parade and this one now.
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  Speaker 1: To me, the.
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  Speaker 3: Pattern is that he really is just preaching to the
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  Speaker 3: converted all the time. He's not really trying to build
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  Speaker 3: bridges or carry out the normal civic duties of a mayor.
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  Speaker 3: He's just all politics all the time, all agenda all
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  Speaker 3: the time. He wants ICE to let the criminals run
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  Speaker 3: in the streets. He wants the NYPD out. not to
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  Speaker 3: arrest the bad guys as they happen to be foreign born, apparently.
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  Speaker 3: So I think that there's just a huge mistake that
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  Speaker 3: he's making in terms of his mayoralty. I mean, I
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  Speaker 3: really don't see how he can succeed this way by
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  Speaker 3: kicking off, you know, one group at a time in this,
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  Speaker 3: as David Dinkins used to call it, this gorgeous mosaic, right?
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  Speaker 3: Others think of it as the melting pot. But Mamdani
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  Speaker 3: seems to have no love in his heart for New York.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, you've been covering politics for a long time. Did
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  Speaker 2: you ever think you'd see a guy like this who
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  Speaker 2: was just a slick talker with a big smile with
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  Speaker 2: absolutely no experience of any kind, no real skill, just
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  Speaker 2: getting himself into Gracie Mansion?
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's a good way to put it because normally
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  Speaker 3: we think of as a mayor, you know, tries to react.
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  Speaker 1: Of problems, right?
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  Speaker 3: Who sees something in addition to having a vision for
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  Speaker 3: projects or whatever. But we think of a mayor as
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  Speaker 3: someone who reacts. So whether it's a midnight fire or
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  Speaker 3: a triple homicide, the mayor would often go to the
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  Speaker 3: scene or you would have representatives of the mayor. And
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  Speaker 3: that's not Mamdani. he's not really engaged in that kind
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  Speaker 3: of role of the job that we have become used to,
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  Speaker 3: whether it was, you know, in modern times. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: Ed Koch, even David Dinkins would go to police shootings.
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  Speaker 3: Rudy Giuliani, of course. I mean, Michael Bloomberg. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they set the tone for responding in a way that
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  Speaker 3: showed they cared. And they saw a problem. They cared
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  Speaker 3: enough to show up in the middle of the night
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  Speaker 3: or whatever day and time it was to be on
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  Speaker 3: the site. That was important to be there. Mamdani doesn't
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  Speaker 3: feel that way. He goes to Marble Hill at midnight.
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  Speaker 1: But what does he do? He condemns law enforcement.
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  Speaker 3: He says that this is an outrage and that he
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  Speaker 3: uses his avenue to the president and to the governor
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  Speaker 3: to express outrage at those who would tackle the violence
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  Speaker 3: and instead accuse them of causing violence, and the criminal
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  Speaker 3: is now the innocent New Yorker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know where this is all going to go.
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  Speaker 2: The other thing is the anti-Semitism, and the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they all get away with the word genocide when applying
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  Speaker 2: it to Israel— It's obscene.
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  Speaker 1: It's obscene.
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  Speaker 2: It's obscene. How did they even get away with this?
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  Speaker 2: Where's the media to criticize them for it?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's, you know, ignorance compounded by, by hatred. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: they don't understand the definition of the word even, uh,
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  Speaker 3: but they throw it around because it's a catchy phrase
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  Speaker 3: for the crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Kids in that cafe is right.
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  Speaker 3: Um, And it just makes no sense in logic or facts,
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  Speaker 3: but that doesn't matter to them. They have an agenda.
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  Speaker 3: And that's what I think, Mark, it's very different about
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  Speaker 3: this mayor from any other mayor. He doesn't give ground
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  Speaker 3: to the duties of the mayor, one of which is,
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  Speaker 3: of course, to represent all 8 million New Yorkers, not
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  Speaker 3: just the ones you like, not just the ones who
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  Speaker 3: are like you. That's why you've got to show up
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  Speaker 3: for things like parades. People care about that. People want
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  Speaker 3: to see you on the day that they are celebrating
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  Speaker 3: something about their history, their ethnicity, anything else. He doesn't
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  Speaker 3: show up because he doesn't care about how you feel
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  Speaker 3: about your issues. He only cares about how he feels
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  Speaker 3: and how his... as I say, the Pied Piper of
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  Speaker 3: the socialist rats.
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  Speaker 2: So if you're a socialist, if you hate billionaires, if
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  Speaker 2: you hate hedge funds, if you hate the Wall Street community,
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  Speaker 2: why are you in New York? What are you even
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  Speaker 2: doing here? It's like if you hate hotels, don't go
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  Speaker 2: be the mayor of Las Vegas. I mean, that's the
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  Speaker 2: main thing there. Why is he even here? Why doesn't
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  Speaker 2: he go somewhere where they're, you know, what he likes?
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  Speaker 3: And it's also a matter of ignorance, right? That if
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  Speaker 3: you don't understand, if you're mayor and you don't understand
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  Speaker 3: how important the wealthy are to New York, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: forget the taxes they pay, the philanthropy. You think poor
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  Speaker 3: people give away their money? No. Only millionaires and billionaires
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  Speaker 3: build these hospitals and libraries and all kinds of things.
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  Speaker 3: And so, for him not to understand and appreciate how
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  Speaker 3: they are helping him make New York better and more attractive.
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  Speaker 3: And yet he scorns them as though somehow they are
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  Speaker 3: like lepers who have to be avoided.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Hey, Letitia James had one debate. She was awful
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  Speaker 2: in the debate. She just got clobbered by that opponent.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is nobody saw it. It's on New York One, so.
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  Speaker 2: Tomorrow night is the Hochul-Blakeman debate. Do you think anybody
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  Speaker 2: will see that? Do you think it will have any
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  Speaker 2: effect on the race?
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know, debates generally only have an effect when
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  Speaker 3: one candidate screws up. Now, I don't think we've ever
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  Speaker 3: seen anything quite like Joe Biden, right, when his debate
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  Speaker 3: with Donald Trump in 24.
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  Speaker 1: But we have seen other.
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  Speaker 3: Mistakes that candidates make that can swing the vote. But
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  Speaker 3: that one was the most dramatic of all. It basically
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  Speaker 3: drove Biden out of the campaign. But look, I think
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  Speaker 3: unless there is a real screw up on one candidate
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  Speaker 3: or another, I think it's more likely to have a marginal,
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  Speaker 3: very small effect on the race itself. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Although Blakeman's a hell of a campaigner. He's done very
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  Speaker 2: well here. He's gotten the numbers closer and closer. You
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  Speaker 2: think deep down that the polls are not even measuring
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  Speaker 2: how people just don't feel safe with Kathy Hochul, despite
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  Speaker 2: anything the polls say? More people will go for Blakeman
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  Speaker 2: than they're measuring?
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  Speaker 1: I hope that's right, Mike.
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  Speaker 3: What I fear is that this is what life is
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  Speaker 3: like in a deep blue state, where there is no
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  Speaker 3: argument that breaks through to those who are sort of
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  Speaker 3: just going to vote even for, as someone once said,
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  Speaker 3: if there were a dead raccoon on the D line,
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  Speaker 3: people would vote for it. I mean, that's just a
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  Speaker 3: problem of habits and of party affiliation that is not
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  Speaker 3: open to ideas or different ways of doing things. And
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  Speaker 3: that's what I feel New York is in. As we
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  Speaker 3: all know, it's been Since 2002, when George Pataki won
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  Speaker 3: his third term as governor, that was the last time
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  Speaker 3: a Republican won a statewide race in New York. So U.S. senators, comptroller,
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  Speaker 3: attorney general, governor, right? So we're due for a change
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  Speaker 3: of pace, if only to shake things up and try
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  Speaker 3: some new ideas.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, yeah, the Democrats have gone so far to
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  Speaker 2: the left. And we've never seen anything like this before,
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  Speaker 2: the anti-Semitism, a mayor that actually hates a group of
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  Speaker 2: people in New York. We've never seen anything like that,
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  Speaker 2: have we?
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  Speaker 3: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: It's unique, certainly in my lifetime.
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  Speaker 3: And I've, you know, covered a lot of mayors and
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  Speaker 3: studied them and I have a pretty good sense of
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  Speaker 3: what worked and what didn't work. I don't see how
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  Speaker 3: this can work unless it's has lost its mind as
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  Speaker 3: well as its soul.
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  Speaker 1: Well, how much longer?
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  Speaker 2: Two and a half years?
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  Speaker 1: Three, right?
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  Speaker 2: Almost three.
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  Speaker 1: Three plus four, yeah. Right. Yeah, we're not through the
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  Speaker 1: first year yet.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, you're right. You're right. What am I saying? It's
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  Speaker 2: three and a half, almost four years. And then, of course,
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  Speaker 2: you move on to MSNBC where he'll have his own
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  Speaker 2: show and do much better there. Well, Michael Goodwin, great stuff.
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  Speaker 2: You can read his column in the New York Post,
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  Speaker 2: yesterday's column. Next one is Wednesday. All his columns are
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  Speaker 2: up on the New York Post website. Michael Goodwin, thanks
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  Speaker 2: for being with us.
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  Speaker 1: My pleasure. Thank you, Mark. Take care.
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  Speaker 2: We got a lot coming up in the next hour.
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  Speaker 2: it really stand? The governor's race, the midterms will get
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