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- 0:00Speaker 1: Today is the day, September the fifth alcohol retail has
- 0:05Speaker 1: expanded to convenience stores across the province. And I got
- 0:09Speaker 1: to tell you I stopped into a convenience store on
- 0:11Speaker 1: the way here. I did not make a purchase, but
- 0:14Speaker 1: I looked at some of the selections and the pricing
- 0:16Speaker 1: was very reasonable, about two point fifty for a tall
- 0:19Speaker 1: can of beer, twenty two bucks for a twelve pack,
- 0:22Speaker 1: to twenty nine dollars for a twelve pack. Bottles of
- 0:24Speaker 1: wine were sixteen dollars. And you know, the sky wasn't
- 0:27Speaker 1: falling by any means whatsoever. Just three years shy from
- 0:32Speaker 1: one hundred years after prohibition, we have finally reached a
- 0:35Speaker 1: point of very significant liberalization of our alcohol sector. Joining
- 0:41Speaker 1: me right now to discuss is the vice president of
- 0:44Speaker 1: Communications and Stakeholder Relations for the Convenience Industry Council of Canada,
- 0:48Speaker 1: Jeff Brownlee joins right now, this is a big day
- 0:51Speaker 1: for you guys.
- 0:51Speaker 2: Jeff, absolutely, John, it certainly is. We haven't been at
- 0:56Speaker 2: this as long as a mayple leice, but this is
- 0:59Speaker 2: really our Stanley Cup celebration, it really is.
- 1:02Speaker 1: How does it feel marking this point, there were a number.
- 1:06Speaker 2: Of times that we were too sure if we were
- 1:08Speaker 2: going to get this over the goal line. But it's
- 1:11Speaker 2: kind of surreal to the fact that, you know, it's
- 1:14Speaker 2: taken a long time to get here and it feels
- 1:17Speaker 2: really good. I mean, a lot of the convenience stores,
- 1:19Speaker 2: there's what forty one hundred licenses or forty one hundred
- 1:22Speaker 2: and fifty licenses so far in an aerial. A lot
- 1:27Speaker 2: of the retailers are very excited about this because it
- 1:29Speaker 2: is a game changer for the industry. That's whethered many
- 1:32Speaker 2: many storms in the past few years, especially since covid and.
- 1:36Speaker 1: Has watched alcohol expand into other well into other sectors
- 1:41Speaker 1: in different ways, with you know, from restaurants and buyers
- 1:44Speaker 1: being able to offer takeout and take home, and then
- 1:46Speaker 1: with cannabis expansion as well. I know that a lot
- 1:48Speaker 1: of convenience stores were saying, hey, what about us, We'd
- 1:51Speaker 1: like to get involved in something new here as well.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, we you know, for a little while there
- 1:58Speaker 2: we were saying, you know, wins at our And as
- 2:01Speaker 2: a result of that, we really put the pressure on
- 2:05Speaker 2: the provincial government to give us our chance, the opportunity
- 2:08Speaker 2: to as the Premier says, and Minister about them Falby
- 2:12Speaker 2: to give Ontarian's convenience.
- 2:14Speaker 1: In choice and so obviously looked forty two hundred licenses.
- 2:18Speaker 1: That's a huge amount. I know that you had some
- 2:21Speaker 1: economic research prepared by Cascadia Partners that says that there's
- 2:25Speaker 1: going to be a lot of new jobs because of us.
- 2:28Speaker 2: Yeah, we had some like some numbers crunch and we
- 2:34Speaker 2: figured it's going to be a bit ninety three hundred
- 2:36Speaker 2: new jobs. But the other side of it is we
- 2:39Speaker 2: expect towards estimated that when this does get up and
- 2:41Speaker 2: running at full speed ahead, it will add an additional
- 2:45Speaker 2: two hundred million dollars to the tax serving you, the
- 2:49Speaker 2: majority of which we'll go to the provincial government.
- 2:51Speaker 1: That is very significant and something that you know, I
- 2:54Speaker 1: think people would be happy to hear about. But so
- 2:57Speaker 1: I've read from your president of the CICC saying that
- 3:02Speaker 1: this is a milestone for consumers. It marks the end
- 3:04Speaker 1: of antiquated prohibition era rules. Just focusing back in on that,
- 3:08Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard to believe that almost one hundred
- 3:11Speaker 1: years is what it's taken to get to this point.
- 3:13Speaker 1: When you hear voices that are still in opposition to
- 3:17Speaker 1: this expansion that say let's go slower to this. I mean,
- 3:20Speaker 1: I don't know how much slower you can get than
- 3:23Speaker 1: almost one hundred years.
- 3:25Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been a long time coming. And listen, let's
- 3:29Speaker 2: be honest. You know, the beverage alcohol system up until
- 3:33Speaker 2: this point in Ontario is you know, antiquated. This is
- 3:37Speaker 2: getting us into a new era that puts us in
- 3:40Speaker 2: you know, a level playing field with two other provinces
- 3:42Speaker 2: in the country, Newsolinan and Labrador and of course Quebec,
- 3:46Speaker 2: but also the US. And it's about time. We did
- 3:49Speaker 2: a number of pulling over the last few years, and
- 3:52Speaker 2: the majority of Ontarians, more than seventy five percent every
- 3:55Speaker 2: pool that we did, we're in favor of this. Drinkers,
- 3:59Speaker 2: people that did consume alcohol, it was almost one hundred
- 4:01Speaker 2: percent wanted this. So this isn't That's something that the
- 4:05Speaker 2: province or the Ontarians want and something that they deserve,
- 4:08Speaker 2: and it's way past time.
- 4:10Speaker 1: So I see here that you're the CiCe, see the
- 4:13Speaker 1: Convenience Industry Council Canada. You represent seventy five hundred retailers
- 4:17Speaker 1: in Ontario alone. Considering that forty two hundred licenses have
- 4:22Speaker 1: been granted in Ontario, obviously a significant amount of your
- 4:26Speaker 1: retailer said, we really want this to happen.
- 4:29Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's about fifty five to fifty six percent.
- 4:32Speaker 2: Some you know, as we go forward, some have decided
- 4:36Speaker 2: at this stage that they're going to wait and see
- 4:38Speaker 2: how things go. We expect more to come online down
- 4:41Speaker 2: the road, as you know, as we work out a
- 4:44Speaker 2: few of the little bugs. But yeah, this is like
- 4:47Speaker 2: I said, this is a game changer for the industry.
- 4:50Speaker 2: Just to give you an example when I was talking
- 4:52Speaker 2: about those storms, John, Unfortunately, over the past three years,
- 4:57Speaker 2: three convenience stores have closed their doors every day in Canada.
- 5:02Speaker 2: In Ontario, five stores closed every week. This will help
- 5:07Speaker 2: that definitely. We expect traffic will increase at a minimum
- 5:12Speaker 2: of twenty percent, and it really gives the retailers a
- 5:16Speaker 2: diversified product mix. Number one to attract people into the store,
- 5:20Speaker 2: but you know another product that they can sell that Those.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Are significant numbers. Three closures store per day in Canada,
- 5:29Speaker 1: but five in a week in Ontario alone. I mean,
- 5:32Speaker 1: I don't think that many people would have realized that.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Well, and that's the unfortunate thing. A lot of these closures, unfortunately,
- 5:39Speaker 2: are happening in rural and remote areas because convenience is
- 5:45Speaker 2: a tough business. The pandemic wasn't good to us unfortunately,
- 5:49Speaker 2: and the industry is in a bit of a transition
- 5:52Speaker 2: right now. But this is, like I said, this is
- 5:54Speaker 2: really going to help us, you know, hopefully reverse that trend.
- 5:58Speaker 1: Well hopefully, So knock on wood about that. Last things
- 6:00Speaker 1: I want to ask you. In the release that you've
- 6:03Speaker 1: sent out here, it says, you know, there's still issues
- 6:05Speaker 1: that need to be addressed to ensure that the retail
- 6:07Speaker 1: framework works for everyone. What more needs to be done?
- 6:12Speaker 2: Yeah, to get to this stage, as I said earlier, John,
- 6:15Speaker 2: it took us a while, and there are a few
- 6:19Speaker 2: little extending issues that we have to work on. Distribution
- 6:22Speaker 2: and pricing are the two main ones, but they're not
- 6:26Speaker 2: huge issues. It's just that, you know, if we go
- 6:30Speaker 2: into over the next few months, there's a few of
- 6:33Speaker 2: these little glitches that we're going to work with the
- 6:35Speaker 2: government continue to work out to ensure that, you know,
- 6:38Speaker 2: the system is fair and running properly for everybody. It
- 6:41Speaker 2: was a huge undertaking to get the supply chain up
- 6:44Speaker 2: and running for today, so you know, obviously we would
- 6:48Speaker 2: have loved to have it like a million percent perfect.
- 6:52Speaker 2: But you know, realistically that's not going to happen. There
- 6:55Speaker 2: will be a few little glitches down the road, and
- 6:58Speaker 2: you know we just have to work through those. But
- 7:00Speaker 2: there's no real big stumbling blocks that we can overcome.
- 7:04Speaker 1: Well to you and to your organization, into your membership. Congratulations,
- 7:08Speaker 1: the day is here. I honestly didn't think that we
- 7:11Speaker 1: were ever going to get to this place. I still
- 7:12Speaker 1: think that COVID did so much to bring us forward
- 7:15Speaker 1: in an alcohol expansion and where we're at. Congratulations to
- 7:19Speaker 1: you and to your membership. It's a big step forward.
- 7:23Speaker 2: Thanks John. Can I end with one other little step
- 7:25Speaker 2: that may be of interest to your listeners. Please, So
- 7:29Speaker 2: you asked, you know what this means, and let's put
- 7:34Speaker 2: this into perspective. So we track into categories every year
- 7:39Speaker 2: in how they do in the overall sales volume. Nationally,
- 7:44Speaker 2: Beer is the fastest growing category the last three years
- 7:49Speaker 2: running in the second overall highest grossing category, and that's
- 7:53Speaker 2: from data from just one province in Quebec. So last
- 7:57Speaker 2: year beer sales in convenience stores in Quebec was about
- 8:02Speaker 2: half a billion dollars, So there's a lot outside for
- 8:04Speaker 2: the seventy five hundred retailers in Ontario.
- 8:06Speaker 1: Wow, it definitely sounds like that. And now that they've
- 8:09Speaker 1: got access to beer, maybe they'll be able to access
- 8:12Speaker 1: some of that as well. Jeff, thank you so much
- 8:13Speaker 1: for your time. I hope you have a great day. Cheers,
- 8:16Speaker 1: thank you, Cheers to you as well. Jeff Brownlee is
- 8:19Speaker 1: the Vice president Communications and Stakeholder Relations for the Convenience
- 8:22Speaker 1: Industry Council of Canada. Alcohol retail has come. You can
- 8:26Speaker 1: go into convenience stores across Ontario today forty two hundred
- 8:30Speaker 1: of them, quite frankly, and purchase alcohol.