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- 0:24Speaker 1: Welcome to Opposition Territory here at the Philadelphia Sports Table
- 0:27Speaker 1: podcast show, the longest running weekly Philly sports podcast show
- 0:31Speaker 1: in the world, twelve years strong. We got a great
- 0:33Speaker 1: discussion coming your way on Opposition Territory this week, where
- 0:37Speaker 1: we are going to be diving into the Jacksonville Jaguars.
- 0:40Speaker 1: What their season, I should say, their offseason has looked, Aliken,
- 0:43Speaker 1: what the upcoming season may look like with our good
- 0:46Speaker 1: friend from the Locked On Jaguars podcast. I listen on
- 0:50Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, and you should listen to the Locked On
- 0:53Speaker 1: Jaguars podcast or whatever platform you're listening to us on.
- 0:55Speaker 1: If you're listening on YouTube, check out everything they've got
- 0:58Speaker 1: going on over there. We got our good friend Tony Wiggins.
- 1:00Speaker 2: How you doing, buddy, I am doing wonderful.
- 1:03Speaker 3: I know the people up there doing real well because
- 1:05Speaker 3: guess what y'all been flexing all off season there, y'all, oh.
- 1:09Speaker 2: One, that whole thing, baby, and y'all.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Just y'all got Gilly Ryan here doing the dance with
- 1:14Speaker 3: that big old hat on.
- 1:15Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man'll, y'all earned it.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We absolutely did this Eagles team a phenomenal last season.
- 1:22Speaker 1: But look, as we know it's a clean slate for everybody,
- 1:26Speaker 1: clean slate for everybody here in twenty twenty five, and
- 1:28Speaker 1: that's certainly the case for the Jacksonville Jaguars. And frankly,
- 1:32Speaker 1: this is a team that I have followed ever since
- 1:35Speaker 1: they came into existence in the NFL during the nineteen nineties.
- 1:39Speaker 1: It's a team that, you know, from an AFC perspective,
- 1:41Speaker 1: I always root for. But to get into the discussion
- 1:45Speaker 1: here with you, Tony, you know, I've been getting into
- 1:48Speaker 1: the vision of various front offices throughout the NFL on
- 1:51Speaker 1: our Opposition Territory shows as of late. So to start
- 1:55Speaker 1: us off at, want to first dive into the vision
- 1:57Speaker 1: of the Jaguars front office and how that vision being
- 2:00Speaker 1: perceived by the fan base. So can you talk a
- 2:03Speaker 1: bit about that vision based on what you have seen,
- 2:06Speaker 1: what you've been reporting on discussing at the Lockdown Jaguars podcast,
- 2:10Speaker 1: and really with the fan base is seeing thus far.
- 2:12Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm fortunate.
- 2:13Speaker 3: Man.
- 2:14Speaker 2: Let me tell you about me.
- 2:15Speaker 3: I did old media when everybody was writing everything down
- 2:18Speaker 3: before podcasts and all. So I got indoctrinated in the
- 2:21Speaker 3: radio back in like the late nineties, and but then
- 2:24Speaker 3: I was young enough and hip enough because I was
- 2:25Speaker 3: a barber also right that when this new thing came along,
- 2:29Speaker 3: this new way of doing things, I was all for it.
- 2:31Speaker 2: So I'm kind of right in the middle of the
- 2:33Speaker 2: old guys and the young guys get treated I get
- 2:35Speaker 2: treated equally good.
- 2:36Speaker 3: And that's where I want to go with this staff.
- 2:38Speaker 3: This staff is a whole bunch of new guys. It's
- 2:41Speaker 3: like all of the new dudes. It's like they took them.
- 2:43Speaker 3: It's like all of the new dudes, all of the dudes.
- 2:45Speaker 3: And I was just telling somebody this earlier, who grew
- 2:48Speaker 3: up scribbling on notepads, and they don't necessarily want to
- 2:50Speaker 3: be players, they want to be gm right.
- 2:53Speaker 2: You know what, who we got?
- 2:54Speaker 3: We got a whole bunch of them dudes over there, right, Coaches,
- 2:56Speaker 3: sons and guys that just each James Gladstone walks.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Around dribbling a football. You heard me, dribbling a football.
- 3:03Speaker 3: He literally bounces the football like a basketball all day long,
- 3:07Speaker 3: and everywhere he goes you see him.
- 3:08Speaker 2: So it's like the football junkies.
- 3:11Speaker 3: Yeah geets, if we want to use that in a
- 3:14Speaker 3: not so negative way, are running an NFL team.
- 3:17Speaker 2: He ain't the first one Sean McVay.
- 3:19Speaker 3: Don't let those muscles in that shadow on his face
- 3:22Speaker 3: fool you. Even football GIK two, don't let Kevin O'Connell
- 3:25Speaker 3: in that six' five looking.
- 3:27Speaker 2: Like he could be a king in games and thrown fool.
- 3:29Speaker 2: You kevin O'Connor is a geek, too ain't and all
- 3:32Speaker 2: the coaches that work for him are nerds.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Too and we got some here and it's good because
- 3:37Speaker 3: all we've had With Trent balky And Doug peterson is
- 3:40Speaker 3: the old way of doing, things firing brimstone.
- 3:43Speaker 2: Way and that's fine until you don't. Win where you don't,
- 3:46Speaker 2: win people tell you go sit down, somewhere and that's
- 3:48Speaker 2: what happened to The jaguar. Staff somebody told him to
- 3:51Speaker 2: go sit.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Down absolutely. Absolutely, look there's a new vision for this
- 3:55Speaker 1: front office and where this team may be heading here
- 3:57Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. FIVE i think we're going to see
- 3:59Speaker 1: so a different type of team for sure this coming.
- 4:03Speaker 1: Season But TONY, i we got to mention the quarterback
- 4:06Speaker 1: position here because there's gonna be a lot of pressure
- 4:08Speaker 1: On Trevor lawrence this. Season he's the fifth highest paid
- 4:11Speaker 1: quarterback in THE nfl and just due to his, position
- 4:14Speaker 1: being at the quarterback, position he's gonna need to show
- 4:17Speaker 1: some real results this, season and analysts have been, saying you,
- 4:21Speaker 1: know he needs to have that breakout. Season but, really
- 4:26Speaker 1: at the end of the, Day i've been trying to,
- 4:27Speaker 1: think you, know what does a breakout season actually look
- 4:29Speaker 1: like For Trevor? Lawrence? Here what does that look like for?
- 4:33Speaker 1: You and for some of the fan base Within Jaguars?
- 4:36Speaker 1: Nation what does that breakout season For Trevor lawrence look?
- 4:39Speaker 3: Like i'm gonna tell you what it looks like for
- 4:41Speaker 3: me BECAUSE i try to market myself or label myself
- 4:45Speaker 3: as a.
- 4:45Speaker 2: Realist.
- 4:45Speaker 3: Right first of, all he hasn't played as bad as people.
- 4:48Speaker 3: Think you gotta look around at his. Teammates, man you
- 4:51Speaker 3: gotta look at the. Situation they fired THE.
- 4:53Speaker 2: Gm THE gm say we ain't making physical.
- 4:55Speaker 3: Enough, yeah he's who picked the dudes for four years
- 4:58Speaker 3: and they ain't making Physical so that's like me telling you
- 5:01Speaker 3: you told me to cook you some food AND i, said,
- 5:03Speaker 3: well it ain't. Done it's because you ain't get started early.
- 5:05Speaker 3: Enough that's why it ain't. Done so my thing, is
- 5:08Speaker 3: you can't come up and be honest and, say, well
- 5:10Speaker 3: we ain't big and physical, enough and you were the
- 5:12Speaker 3: dude responsible for going out and getting big and physical.
- 5:15Speaker 2: People that's your fault and that's what got them. Fired
- 5:18Speaker 2: the running backs.
- 5:19Speaker 3: Got touched on rushes at the fastest rate of anybody
- 5:23Speaker 3: in THE. Nfl they can't convert on fourth and. One
- 5:26Speaker 3: what do you, Mean Trevor lawrence isn't. Good this ain't
- 5:29Speaker 3: college where some dude can Be steve McNair surrounded by
- 5:33Speaker 3: god knows who and you can still see how.
- 5:35Speaker 2: Good he is and. All THE nfl doesn't work like.
- 5:37Speaker 3: That you can do anything in The National Football league
- 5:40Speaker 3: without a proper staff around, you without the players around,
- 5:44Speaker 3: you and without a philosophy where they're gonna, say we're
- 5:47Speaker 3: gonna run the ball, first and that's What Liam cohen has.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Done they're gonna run the ball. First everything is gonna
- 5:51Speaker 2: be about to run and then taking a picture pre
- 5:54Speaker 2: snap and getting the.
- 5:55Speaker 3: Answer we ain't never heard nothing like that from these
- 5:57Speaker 3: Old oh you know what they said. Before we need
- 5:59Speaker 3: a lot of push people off the ball and just
- 6:01Speaker 3: Let trevor do With trevor. Cuk you don't yells didn't do.
- 6:05Speaker 3: That Tom brady made and run the ball for three
- 6:07Speaker 3: or four years before he started throwing, it, right he
- 6:09Speaker 3: talking about we just gonna line up and let the
- 6:12Speaker 3: sunshine and all of this.
- 6:13Speaker 2: Stuff The prince the promise and. All, man that's. Foolishness
- 6:16Speaker 2: you better do sound. Things football is about blocking and. Tackling.
- 6:19Speaker 3: Absolutely nobody knows that more than the Dude i'm sitting
- 6:23Speaker 3: here talking to right.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Now, absolutely The Philadelphia. Eagles you look at the way
- 6:26Speaker 1: that they've built their teams over the years in the.
- 6:28Speaker 1: Trenches that's what we're gonna need to see from The Jacksonville.
- 6:31Speaker 1: Jaguars we're gonna need to see that blocking up. Front
- 6:33Speaker 1: we're gonna need to see run. Blocking you, know the
- 6:35Speaker 1: pass pro needs to be pretty stellar this season for
- 6:38Speaker 1: this team to have. Success AND i think that you,
- 6:42Speaker 1: know kind of dovetails into some of the talent on
- 6:45Speaker 1: this team and this next topic THAT i wanted to
- 6:47Speaker 1: get into with, You, tony The Travis hunter storyline. HERE i,
- 6:51Speaker 1: mean it's just gonna be really interesting to follow as
- 6:53Speaker 1: training camp is right around the. Corner he's an amazing
- 6:56Speaker 1: and amazing talent that's gonna be going up against some
- 6:59Speaker 1: other amazing talent in this league as. Well so while
- 7:04Speaker 1: you don't have a crystal. Ball of course you. Don't
- 7:06Speaker 1: how do you see his rookie season potentially playing out
- 7:10Speaker 1: and the impacts that he'll likely have on the, team
- 7:13Speaker 1: whether it's on offense or. Defense what are your thoughts?
- 7:15Speaker 3: Here all? Right first of, all if you've been on
- 7:17Speaker 3: organizations that's been losing, forever, right and you get a
- 7:20Speaker 3: chance to get a dude that when he was in
- 7:22Speaker 3: the ninth grade was the best high school player In,
- 7:24Speaker 3: america and then at every step he showed you that he's.
- 7:28Speaker 3: Different we know when you get to the, league Allow Reggie,
- 7:30Speaker 3: bush that things get more difficult for, you and you
- 7:33Speaker 3: don't always get, away you don't reverse feel and make
- 7:37Speaker 3: that escape all the time because these dudes ain't gonna
- 7:39Speaker 3: let you make them little. Silly that being, said one
- 7:41Speaker 3: of the things That i've heard from The jaguars on
- 7:43Speaker 3: several occasions is we have no. Clue we don't know
- 7:46Speaker 3: what it's going to look. Like all we know is
- 7:49Speaker 3: we wanted, Him we get him in the. Building we
- 7:51Speaker 3: had a needed wide, receiver we had a need for,
- 7:53Speaker 3: talent and we had a need in our defensive. Backfield
- 7:56Speaker 3: they have this, thing, man where they talk about being
- 7:59Speaker 3: intangibly rich and intangibly rich is you have intangiblest that
- 8:02Speaker 3: all you got to do is come here and be.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Nothing more than.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Yourself so what that means is they're putting the onus
- 8:08Speaker 3: on them to go out and get the right people
- 8:10Speaker 3: to bring into the. Organization not just go get a
- 8:13Speaker 3: talent and see if you can shape and mold him
- 8:15Speaker 3: into what you want him to. Be, no these dudes
- 8:17Speaker 3: are ready, made ready to, go sort of Like Jared vers,
- 8:20Speaker 3: Was Like Jared verse gave The rams just exactly what he.
- 8:23Speaker 3: WAS i Cover Florida state And i'm a. Fan he
- 8:25Speaker 3: is exactly the same dude him And Bravy fist as
- 8:28Speaker 3: they were in. College AND i think someone that understands
- 8:32Speaker 3: what you're going to get and how you're going to
- 8:35Speaker 3: go about. It but then having a transparent the transparency
- 8:38Speaker 3: actually in THE nfl to tell us we don't know
- 8:40Speaker 3: how it's going to turn.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Out but all they know is that they work.
- 8:43Speaker 3: Hard if they press towards the, mark if they split
- 8:45Speaker 3: the time with him, appropriately.
- 8:47Speaker 2: He's going to be.
- 8:48Speaker 3: Fine, now this narrative out there that they view him
- 8:51Speaker 3: more as a receiver than they do a, CORNER.
- 8:53Speaker 2: I don't know if that's. True or. Not it may,
- 8:54Speaker 2: be it may be not, true BUT i do know.
- 8:56Speaker 3: This here's WHAT i do know is that instead of
- 9:00Speaker 3: going to a rookie, draft if The jaguars would have
- 9:03Speaker 3: gone and said Gotten quinn And mitchell and then separately
- 9:07Speaker 3: came and gotten Aj green from The, EAGLES Aj green
- 9:11Speaker 3: would have more work to do in learning the, offense
- 9:14Speaker 3: learning where to, be learning the time in. Line you
- 9:16Speaker 3: can take queen On, mitchell stick him out of the
- 9:18Speaker 3: corner and say go.
- 9:19Speaker 2: Play and that's probably why he's spending a little bit
- 9:22Speaker 2: more time on offense than.
- 9:23Speaker 3: Defense but in terms of his, PRODUCTION i Told Tyler
- 9:27Speaker 3: rowland From locked On titans And locked ON nfl just
- 9:29Speaker 3: about twenty minutes, AGO i, said, listen he doesn't have to.
- 9:33Speaker 2: Be at all pro at either.
- 9:35Speaker 3: Position but if he catched his fifty five balls for
- 9:38Speaker 3: seven hundred and eighty yards and six, touchdowns and one
- 9:41Speaker 3: of them is one where he goes up on a
- 9:42Speaker 3: fifty to fifty ball and snatches it from somebody in toe,
- 9:45Speaker 3: tap and then.
- 9:46Speaker 2: He gets four.
- 9:47Speaker 3: Picks one of them is a pick six where he
- 9:49Speaker 3: weaves through the whole defense in a, game and he
- 9:51Speaker 3: does it with a minute to, go and then if
- 9:53Speaker 3: he turns around and gets one punk return where he
- 9:56Speaker 3: drops and bobbles the, ball picks it, up gets, hit
- 9:58Speaker 3: doesn't lose his, balance reversus, field and scores a. Touchdown
- 10:01Speaker 3: well he might not have done any one thing great all,
- 10:04Speaker 3: year but you had all that stuff together.
- 10:06Speaker 2: And they, Win oh my, god then it'll Be Oldell.
- 10:10Speaker 2: Beckham it'll be the. Catch never as good As, Tyree
- 10:13Speaker 2: Tyreek hill or any of those. Dudes but you know
- 10:16Speaker 2: what it.
- 10:16Speaker 3: Was he did spectacular things at the right time and
- 10:20Speaker 3: it made people believe that.
- 10:21Speaker 2: That thing was way better than what it really really.
- 10:23Speaker 2: Was so that's my. Answer my answer IS i don't
- 10:26Speaker 2: know what he's gonna, do BUT i do know. This
- 10:28Speaker 2: he works as hard as.
- 10:29Speaker 3: Anybody he's, athletic he's, fast and we just have to
- 10:33Speaker 3: see how it turns.
- 10:33Speaker 1: Out he's going to work at the opportunities that are
- 10:36Speaker 1: given to. Him that's essentially what you're, Saying, tony AND
- 10:39Speaker 1: i absolutely love that, answer, because LIKE i, said we
- 10:41Speaker 1: don't have a crystal ball in terms of what's going
- 10:43Speaker 1: to happen with any rookies that are going to be
- 10:45Speaker 1: coming into this league this coming. Season but the rookies
- 10:49Speaker 1: are gonna make those opportunities in whatever way they're gonna make,
- 10:52Speaker 1: them AND i think it's a fantastic. Answer but moving
- 10:55Speaker 1: a long, year wanting to talk more about the, offense
- 10:58Speaker 1: and it's something that you mentioned at the, top and
- 11:00Speaker 1: we're gonna dive into it a little bit more here
- 11:02Speaker 1: because The jaguars offense only had one seven and twenty
- 11:06Speaker 1: nine yards of rushing last, season And i'm sure the
- 11:10Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff here would like that number to. Increase
- 11:13Speaker 1: as we're looking towards this twenty twenty five. Season what
- 11:17Speaker 1: are you hoping to see more of from an offensive
- 11:20Speaker 1: rushing perspective this? Year what are your?
- 11:23Speaker 3: Thoughts it starts with the, line it starts with, upfront
- 11:26Speaker 3: and it starts with the. Mentality one of the things
- 11:28Speaker 3: That Liam cohen said the second he got here was
- 11:31Speaker 3: we need to break the huddle.
- 11:32Speaker 2: And they need to know we're coming and we want
- 11:34Speaker 2: to run the.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Ball and you need to look like you need to
- 11:37Speaker 3: look the part that you're going to run the. Ball.
- 11:39Speaker 2: Now he came From, Tampa he Had Tristan. WORRIS i
- 11:41Speaker 2: ain't No tristan works up in here, nowhere.
- 11:43Speaker 3: Right AND i ain't No Landon dickersons and those two
- 11:45Speaker 3: tackles y'all got up there in. Hilly but there's still a.
- 11:47Speaker 3: Mentality you have to fake it till you make, it
- 11:49Speaker 3: and you ain't gonna go out here and Find Trent
- 11:51Speaker 3: williams on a tree. Somewhere that doesn't.
- 11:52Speaker 2: Happen you can't always draft them early in the first.
- 11:55Speaker 3: Round but what you can do is you cannot just
- 11:58Speaker 3: work on your, floor but you can work on the.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Middle and WHAT i mean by that is they had ten.
- 12:03Speaker 2: Linemen they probably need to get rid of six of.
- 12:05Speaker 3: Them so they went out in free agency and got
- 12:06Speaker 3: four people that's played snaps for teams that have won a.
- 12:10Speaker 2: Lot one of them Is Fred.
- 12:11Speaker 3: Johnson so we're gonna inject that right smack into the
- 12:15Speaker 3: middle of our, team and whichever way that thing goes
- 12:18Speaker 3: up or, down we're gonna either push people out this
- 12:21Speaker 3: way or push people out there.
- 12:22Speaker 2: Where but we're gonna have able bodies and we're gonna change.
- 12:24Speaker 3: Coaches they've Got Sean starrett who's the assistant line coach In,
- 12:28Speaker 3: minnesota and they've done a, really really good.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Job the mentality is just totally. Different, yeah versatility is.
- 12:34Speaker 3: Important they Had pat McCarey From, baltimore who's played every
- 12:37Speaker 3: position on the offensive. Line they will have the bodies,
- 12:41Speaker 3: now they just have to have the competition and the
- 12:44Speaker 3: competition along with the.
- 12:46Speaker 2: Bodies and you can't have competition truly if you don't
- 12:48Speaker 2: have people to. Compete they have that, now AND i.
- 12:51Speaker 3: Think they Drafted wie Million men in the third round
- 12:53Speaker 3: out Of West. Virginia that's another guy that you bring.
- 12:56Speaker 3: In LIKE i, said tackles don't grow on. Trees they
- 12:58Speaker 3: usually don't hit free agency any good. Either you have
- 13:01Speaker 3: to develop those, guys AND i believe The jaguars are
- 13:03Speaker 3: on their way to doing.
- 13:04Speaker 2: That if you fix, that you fix the. Run if
- 13:06Speaker 2: you fix.
- 13:07Speaker 3: The, run you get play, Action you get guy thinking
- 13:10Speaker 3: one way and going, Another you get wide open, looks
- 13:12Speaker 3: you get all of the things that allow you to
- 13:14Speaker 3: keep getting first down and keep your defense off the.
- 13:16Speaker 2: Field AND i feel speaking to.
- 13:18Speaker 3: The choir, again because that's exactly How philadelphia won the
- 13:21Speaker 3: championship by playing that way on, offense forcing your hand
- 13:25Speaker 3: on defense, fielding and you have to keep up with.
- 13:26Speaker 3: Them as soon as you start doing, that they start
- 13:29Speaker 3: pinning their ears back coming after.
- 13:30Speaker 1: You absolutely great points, here great points From Tony wiggins
- 13:33Speaker 1: from The locked On jaguars, Podcast, tony where can folks
- 13:37Speaker 1: find you on the interwebs out there if they want
- 13:39Speaker 1: to follow you on social if they want to follow
- 13:41Speaker 1: what you're? Doing Shop Talking.
- 13:43Speaker 3: Wig that comes from me being a barber for thirty four.
- 13:45Speaker 3: Years Shop Talking wig and ALL i do and you
- 13:47Speaker 3: see the barbershoppers behind.
- 13:49Speaker 2: Me, MAN i just have the same Conversations i've always.
- 13:52Speaker 3: Had you can FIND i might be arguing with, somebody
- 13:55Speaker 3: but don't worry about. It Shop Talking wig is On instagram,
- 13:58Speaker 3: also that's most, family but from a professional. Standpoint Daily
- 14:03Speaker 3: locked On jaguars And locked ON, nfl we have A
- 14:06Speaker 3: locked ON nfl show that's twice the. Day Tyler rowland
- 14:08Speaker 3: is in the. Morning The Man man AND i just
- 14:10Speaker 3: take you to the barbershop every day at two, o'clock
- 14:13Speaker 3: and we use the help of local, experts clips from
- 14:15Speaker 3: around the, network even my Man Lou debiassi up there
- 14:18Speaker 3: with The, Eagles locked On. Eglish we have all of,
- 14:20Speaker 3: These we get the opinions of the local experts and then.
- 14:23Speaker 2: We expound on it from a national.
- 14:25Speaker 3: Level so both podcasts all Day monday Through, friday and
- 14:29Speaker 3: then even on, WEEKENDS i do The jaguars whenever there's
- 14:32Speaker 3: a big, game well every, GAME i do a.
- 14:33Speaker 2: Postcast so, yeah, man, busy, busy.
- 14:35Speaker 3: Busy being credentialed almost two decades here with the team
- 14:38Speaker 3: and it's a good time right, now very very.
- 14:41Speaker 1: Happy check out The Locked On jaguars podcast locked ON
- 14:44Speaker 1: nfl as, well. Folks you, know we love The locked on.
- 14:46Speaker 1: Network have a lot of great relationships with a lot
- 14:49Speaker 1: of different podcast hosts out there from The Locked on.
- 14:52Speaker 1: Network But tony's we're moving on here with the. Conversation
- 14:55Speaker 1: we're just talking about the offense of This jaguars team
- 14:58Speaker 1: and the expectations this. Season on the flip, side The jaguars.
- 15:02Speaker 1: DEFENSE i, mean their total defense last year was ranked
- 15:06Speaker 1: thirty first in the, league and It's i've said it
- 15:09Speaker 1: a number of times on this podcast, platform and my
- 15:11Speaker 1: co host make fun of me for it all the
- 15:13Speaker 1: time when they're. On you really can't fall out of
- 15:15Speaker 1: a basement. Window so it seems that this team can
- 15:18Speaker 1: only go up from where they ended last. Year of,
- 15:21Speaker 1: course that's the hope For jaguars. Fans what should we
- 15:24Speaker 1: be expecting from the defense this coming? Season what are
- 15:27Speaker 1: your thoughts.
- 15:28Speaker 2: HERE i think they'll be.
- 15:29Speaker 3: Better see this is WHAT i mean by when you
- 15:31Speaker 3: have to get rid of, people because what happened is
- 15:33Speaker 3: THEY i believe they Gave Doug.
- 15:35Speaker 2: Peterson and it's gonna sound so. FAMILIAR i think they
- 15:37Speaker 2: Gave Doug peterson an.
- 15:39Speaker 3: Eating they, said you got to change some people on
- 15:41Speaker 3: your stat, right and he kept Prest.
- 15:42Speaker 2: Taylor. Man he ain't want to get rid of the.
- 15:45Speaker 1: Press, taylor, yeah, MAN i, said boy, right him And Phil.
- 15:48Speaker 3: Rosser so what they did was they got rid of
- 15:50Speaker 3: the defensive coordinator and they brought In Ryan.
- 15:52Speaker 2: Nielsen and you could almost.
- 15:54Speaker 3: Tell that there was something off Because NIELSEN i had
- 15:58Speaker 3: talked to Locked On Saints Ross jackson About neilsen's time
- 16:02Speaker 3: as A d line coach In New.
- 16:03Speaker 2: Orleans he, says players loved, him he's.
- 16:05Speaker 3: Great AND i talked TO i talked to locked On
- 16:08Speaker 3: falcons too And Aaron.
- 16:09Speaker 2: Freeman he, said oh, no you're gonna love. Him he's.
- 16:11Speaker 2: Great people hated him down.
- 16:13Speaker 3: Here So i'm, thinking like what happened was he probably
- 16:16Speaker 3: got told coming into the door what all the problems, were,
- 16:20Speaker 3: right and he probably got told those things from either
- 16:24Speaker 3: the coach who was here Or Trent balk and both
- 16:26Speaker 3: of those guys were laying. Ducks so therefore he probably
- 16:30Speaker 3: he likely judged his players based on what he heard
- 16:34Speaker 3: from people who were.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Trying to say their, jobs AND i think he treated him.
- 16:38Speaker 3: Accordingly he Made Treyvon walker Gain, way he Made Josh Allen.
- 16:41Speaker 3: Gangway those dudes over two hundred and eighty five, pounds
- 16:44Speaker 3: and when they suggested things and were asking, questions he was,
- 16:48Speaker 3: very very dismissive and basically told him just to do
- 16:51Speaker 3: what they were supposed to.
- 16:51Speaker 2: Do And i'm.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Paraphrasing those are not exact, words but they hated, him,
- 16:55Speaker 3: Right so now you move. Forward now they they're in.
- 17:00Speaker 3: Agreement Anthony campanella is a tough. Dude he's A jersey, guy,
- 17:03Speaker 3: right and he's. Tough his language might be as harsh as.
- 17:07Speaker 3: Anybody but the communication and you realize these players have
- 17:12Speaker 3: reverence for him already because they believe.
- 17:15Speaker 2: In the things that he's.
- 17:16Speaker 3: Saying, philosophically the communication is two, ways it's not one.
- 17:20Speaker 2: WAY i Believe Vic.
- 17:22Speaker 3: Fangio Vic fangiel didn't have a whole bunch of fans
- 17:24Speaker 3: In miami And Den.
- 17:25Speaker 2: Round but guess what he goes To philly and they love.
- 17:28Speaker 2: It they swear By victor up. There so sometimes it's how.
- 17:31Speaker 3: You communicate the responsibility that you're given and the situation
- 17:35Speaker 3: that you're walking. Into phillies used to win. It therefore
- 17:38Speaker 3: they know vic can. Win when you're dealing with a
- 17:41Speaker 3: team like The. Jaguars the biggest thing THAT i wonder
- 17:44Speaker 3: about is the enthusiasms. There everybody's, happy everybody's going. Hard
- 17:50Speaker 3: there's a lot of. Competition what happens if you come
- 17:53Speaker 3: out it's almost like.
- 17:54Speaker 2: Going in the.
- 17:54Speaker 3: Gym you joined the gym for the first, time drinking
- 17:56Speaker 3: creative drink and.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Shape he can let us you're.
- 17:59Speaker 3: Working, out working, out you get on the. Scale out
- 18:00Speaker 3: of three, weeks you feel, better you lost one?
- 18:02Speaker 2: Pound, yeah do you get? Discovered what happens when somebody
- 18:06Speaker 2: slaps you in the face and till you still the
- 18:08Speaker 2: same Old?
- 18:08Speaker 3: Jaguars they can't let the beginning of this thing make
- 18:11Speaker 3: them think that it's the same old, thing. RIGHT i
- 18:13Speaker 3: think you have a short memory that goes not only
- 18:15Speaker 3: from year to, year but.
- 18:16Speaker 1: Week can we absolutely and, also, folks as we talk
- 18:19Speaker 1: on this podcast platform a lot when it comes to
- 18:21Speaker 1: various teams and, players the relationship between the coaches and
- 18:24Speaker 1: the players means so much in terms of what the
- 18:26Speaker 1: success is going to be on the, field on the,
- 18:29Speaker 1: ice on the, court whatever sport it. Is so as
- 18:32Speaker 1: we're finishing up our discussion, Here, tony we've been talking
- 18:36Speaker 1: about it again on Our Opposition territory shows about THE
- 18:39Speaker 1: x factor and what that may actually look like again
- 18:44Speaker 1: with various, teams what THOSE x factors? Are they can
- 18:47Speaker 1: come right out of. Nowhere talk About Philadelphia eagles from last.
- 18:50Speaker 1: Season they Signed Zach bond to a one year deal
- 18:53Speaker 1: before the twenty twenty four. Season think it'll be a
- 18:55Speaker 1: contributor on special teams in some, way shape or. Form
- 18:58Speaker 1: then it turns out to be one of the best
- 19:00Speaker 1: linebackers in THE. Nfl what do you think THAT x
- 19:04Speaker 1: factor is going to be this coming season for The Jacksonville.
- 19:07Speaker 3: Jaguars two, Players i'll give them to, you all, Right
- 19:10Speaker 3: glad you asked me, that, Right and they play on
- 19:12Speaker 3: opposite sides of the, ball but they're in a similar.
- 19:14Speaker 3: Situation one of them Is Jordan, lewis former slot From.
- 19:17Speaker 3: Dallas Jordan lewis is gonna start, outside but When Jordan
- 19:20Speaker 3: lewis goes inside in the. SLOT i guess who's gonna
- 19:23Speaker 3: be Outside Travis hunter right?
- 19:25Speaker 2: Now, Yep Dimi brown on.
- 19:27Speaker 3: Offense y'all knowing me from the ball up there and,
- 19:29Speaker 3: Then but guess what he was there to make those players,
- 19:32Speaker 3: now don't get it, twisted but instead of being the
- 19:35Speaker 3: number two, receiver he's the number three receiver.
- 19:37Speaker 2: Here he's gonna be the number two. Receiver if they
- 19:39Speaker 2: Use travis a lot on, defense those two people will.
- 19:43Speaker 3: Be the guys that you Can you have to limit
- 19:45Speaker 3: the slippage Whenever travis and his athleticism isn't on that
- 19:49Speaker 3: side of the ball and he's spending time on the
- 19:51Speaker 3: other side of the. Ball it's big for me because
- 19:54Speaker 3: if you look at it on, offense, Well i'll go defense.
- 19:57Speaker 3: First Jordan lewis has made all of his money in the,
- 19:59Speaker 3: slot but he can play. Outside SO i think When
- 20:01Speaker 3: travis gets on the, field you're actually Sliding Jordan lewis
- 20:05Speaker 3: down into the position where he's made all of his.
- 20:07Speaker 3: Money right, now, Offensively Downy. Brown he's played.
- 20:11Speaker 2: A number a lot of number two receiver the last
- 20:14Speaker 2: four or five.
- 20:15Speaker 3: Weeks him and that mc miller kid From tampa probably
- 20:17Speaker 3: played better than any receivers in The National Football, league,
- 20:20Speaker 3: Right so now we don't need you to do all of.
- 20:22Speaker 3: That you need to do it every now and then
- 20:24Speaker 3: because When travis isn't on the, field you got to
- 20:27Speaker 3: make sure teams don't double our best.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Player That's Brian Thomas. Junior, see we ain't even talked
- 20:32Speaker 2: about him.
- 20:32Speaker 3: Yet that's a top seven wide receiver and he ain't
- 20:36Speaker 3: number seven in my opinion.
- 20:38Speaker 2: Based on the fact that he was catching the ball
- 20:40Speaker 2: From Mac jones last. Year, yes and he still.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Was able to put up the numbers when everybody knew
- 20:45Speaker 3: he was getting the ball and we couldn't run.
- 20:47Speaker 2: It so now you transfer that to this.
- 20:50Speaker 3: Year you Got, travis you GOT, btj you Got, downy
- 20:54Speaker 3: you got three guys that do all three. Things, well
- 20:57Speaker 3: take the top off the, defense they, run the route
- 20:59Speaker 3: tree and the ball.
- 21:00Speaker 2: In hand guys meaning hitch now turn into a punt.
- 21:03Speaker 3: RETURN i think The jaguars overall the hidden thing is
- 21:07Speaker 3: those two PLAYERS i mentioned able to Keep travis. FRESH
- 21:11Speaker 3: i don't know if you. Remember there was a question
- 21:13Speaker 3: of his introductory press. CONFERENCE i asked, HIM i, said
- 21:16Speaker 3: what If Travis hunter receiver is lined up In Travis
- 21:18Speaker 3: hunter the Corners guarden and and the ball's coming your
- 21:20Speaker 3: way on fourth.
- 21:21Speaker 2: Down, yes with, it he Said Travis. Hunter the REASON
- 21:24Speaker 2: i asked him that is because.
- 21:26Speaker 3: If you Play houston and you're on, Offense i'm Sure
- 21:31Speaker 3: derek stingly looks At Nico collins and, SAY i want
- 21:34Speaker 3: you to work in run him down the field as
- 21:36Speaker 3: much as you, can just working, working beat him up on.
- 21:40Speaker 2: A line of, scrimmats right or vice.
- 21:42Speaker 3: Versa Maybe nico's telling Us stingley that don't give him,
- 21:45Speaker 3: nothing making work hard, everything wear them out ten play
- 21:48Speaker 3: drive right, now you got to come guard. Me that's
- 21:51Speaker 3: all pro on both sides of the, ball looking right
- 21:54Speaker 3: at you for one hundred and twenty. PLAYS i don't
- 21:56Speaker 3: think that's possible.
- 21:57Speaker 2: In THE nfl and expect a good result do.
- 22:00Speaker 3: That so that's why those two players have to be
- 22:03Speaker 3: good enough that giving him a break doesn't hurt, you feel.
- 22:07Speaker 1: ME i feel your brother sounds like, whatever, Great, yes.
- 22:10Speaker 3: You see you SEE i got it all figured out
- 22:12Speaker 3: now over there and figured.
- 22:16Speaker 2: Yes but but but that's why.
- 22:17Speaker 3: Those two guys are, important because it allows you to
- 22:19Speaker 3: be exactly who you are even when he isn't on
- 22:22Speaker 3: the field.
- 22:22Speaker 1: Right, right, fantastic fantastic, discussion. Folks this This jaguar season
- 22:28Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating in my, opinion to watch
- 22:32Speaker 1: again a team THAT i have rooted for for many
- 22:34Speaker 1: years of THE. Afc it's gonna be really fun to.
- 22:37Speaker 1: Watch Trevor, Lawrence Travis, hunter the talent that we've been talking.
- 22:40Speaker 1: ABOUT i can't wait to see what happens with this team, again.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Folks Tony wiggins From.
- 22:45Speaker 2: Hey Jil, oh yeah, yeah you got. MORE i KNOW
- 22:48Speaker 2: i GOT i got just one little. Request oh, Yeah i'm.
- 22:51Speaker 3: HUNGRY i don't want to cheese. STEAK i can get
- 22:52Speaker 3: one of. THEM i learn how to make one of.
- 22:54Speaker 3: Them can you go down the Red can you go
- 22:55Speaker 3: down The Red market and go in.
- 22:56Speaker 2: The back some of the moms chicken wings they got
- 22:59Speaker 2: and center through me through this AND i had them.
- 23:01Speaker 3: Before, Man i'm telling you. SOMETHING i looked back. THERE
- 23:04Speaker 3: i thought my grandma was back there cooking that. Stuff,
- 23:06Speaker 3: man these people cooking these chicken wings like crazy over,
- 23:08Speaker 3: there very.
- 23:09Speaker 2: Mary. MAN i gotta make MY i GOTTA i gotta
- 23:11Speaker 2: get back up.
- 23:11Speaker 1: There so good, man so. GOOD i love. It Tony
- 23:15Speaker 1: wiggins The Locked On Jaguars. Podcast follow him on the
- 23:19Speaker 1: interwebs out, there search him out. Online, great great content
- 23:23Speaker 1: all the, Time tony, buddy it was great talking to,
- 23:25Speaker 1: you my. Man come back join, us I'd i'd love
- 23:27Speaker 1: to talk to you at some other point down the,
- 23:29Speaker 1: road my, FRIEND.
- 23:30Speaker 2: I may be coming up.
- 23:31Speaker 3: There there's A FRIDAY i Think cleveland And philly a preseason.
- 23:35Speaker 3: GAME i might make. IT i looked up some ticket last.
- 23:37Speaker 3: Night that might be my chance to come See schauder
- 23:39Speaker 3: play in.
- 23:39Speaker 1: The previce, GUYS i would love to have you on
- 23:42Speaker 1: at some point down the, road my. Friend all, right
- 23:44Speaker 1: no doubt that's gonna do it for us here On
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